Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting Issues:

2006-01-22 Thread francky
Jim Nannery wrote:

>>Cory wrote:
>>I'm sorry, I think you guys are misunderstanding what I am saying. I am
>>not talking about how the layout looks in the browser, I am talking
>>about when you right click and view the source code, THAT is what is all
>>messed up. In particular the CSS. In DW8, the CSS is all nice and neat
>>just like I coded it, but if you view the CSS CODE in a browser window,
>>it is all messed up and all over the place like it lost the formatting.
>>
>>What would cause that? The browser, the FTP program that I am using or 
>>what?
>>Cory
>>
>>
>[...]
>Since I don't use Dreamweaver (old hand coder) I'm *guessing* that DW uses 
>some proprietary formatting that isn't recognized by the browser you are 
>trying to view it in.
>[...]
>  
>
Hi Cory,
I don't have DW either, but guess it will be the way DW is making the 
tab space. The same thing is happening for instance in Frontpage: there 
they use a tab space which is about 4 letters in width. Openend the same 
css-file (or javascript-file: same effects) in Wordpad, the space is 6 
letters. And in Notepad ...  10 letters in width (& sometimes not 
showing the tabs, but a black sign instead, without spacing). With 2 or 
more indenting tabs for nested div's it doesn't show good anymore. Then 
there are huge white spaces and wrappings to next lines: *"unordered 
listings"*. ;-)
You can check this by moving in the css-file with the arrow keys: big 
jumps in the whitespaces indicate the tab positions.

It can be also, that in DW a proportional font-type is used, while not 
in Notepad.
In browsers, it depends of the default text-editor you have assigned in 
the browser configuration: the text-editor that will be used 
automatically when the browser discovers a css- or other text file that 
has to be opened.

>Does the html render as expected in the browser? If so, I wouldn't worry to 
>much about how the code looks in view source.
>[...]
>
Agree! - When I am in a clear mood, I don't use the tab key when coding, but 
give 2 or 3 ordinary spacebar spaces - then the code is always good looking.

francky

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Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting Issues:

2006-01-21 Thread Jim Nannery
Cory

You wrote
> I'm sorry, I think you guys are misunderstanding what I am saying. I am
> not talking about how the layout looks in the browser, I am talking
> about when you right click and view the source code, THAT is what is all
> messed up. In particular the CSS. In DW8, the CSS is all nice and neat
> just like I coded it, but if you view the CSS CODE in a browser window,
> it is all messed up and all over the place like it lost the formatting.
>
> What would cause that? The browser, the FTP program that I am using or 
> what?
>
> Cory

First, FTPing a file (HTML or CSS) will not alter the formatting of the file 
between your local machine and the server.

Am I correct in assuming that you have embedded the CSS in the head of the 
document and, when you look at it live with the browsers view source, the 
CSS isn't neat and tidy like it was when you looked at it in DW8?

Since I don't use Dreamweaver (old hand coder) I'm *guessing* that DW uses 
some proprietary formatting that isn't recognized by the browser you are 
trying to view it in.  Someone using DW8 may have a better explanation. (off 
line)

Does the html render as expected in the browser? If so, I wouldn't worry to 
much about how the code looks in view source.

Can you post a link to a url that the list can look at?  We might be able to 
better answer your question and see if there is a problem with the CSS.

You might want to ask this at the Dreamweaver forum [1] or look at Community 
Mx [2] for answers.

Best

[1] http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/index.cfm?forumid=12
[2] http://www.communitymx.com/

Jim Nannery
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Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting Issues:

2006-01-21 Thread Cory Perry
david wrote:

>No, the problem is that DW (and it's WYSI-not-really-what-you-get 
>competitors) is lying to you. The only way to really test and make sure 
>your pages are working right is checking it in a browser. Remember, 
>people don't browse websites using Dreamweaver! ;-)
>
>  
>

I'm sorry, I think you guys are misunderstanding what I am saying. I am 
not talking about how the layout looks in the browser, I am talking 
about when you right click and view the source code, THAT is what is all 
messed up. In particular the CSS. In DW8, the CSS is all nice and neat 
just like I coded it, but if you view the CSS CODE in a browser window, 
it is all messed up and all over the place like it lost the formatting.

What would cause that? The browser, the FTP program that I am using or what?

Cory
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Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting Issues:

2006-01-20 Thread david
Cory Perry wrote:
> Hey everyone, I having a problem with my CSS formatting when viewed in a 
> browser compared to how I have it layed out in Dreamweaver 8. In DW8, it 
> is layed out perfectly and I can read everything just fine. When you 
> view the CSS code in the browser however, it is all over the place and 
> it loses all of the formatting.
> 
> What causes this? Could it possibly be my ftp program doing it? Is there 
> a way to fix this so that it looks just DW8 when viewed in a browser? 
> Thanks for any help!

No, the problem is that DW (and it's WYSI-not-really-what-you-get 
competitors) is lying to you. The only way to really test and make sure 
your pages are working right is checking it in a browser. Remember, 
people don't browse websites using Dreamweaver! ;-)

-- 
David
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authenticity, honesty, community
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Re: [css-d] CSS Formatting Issues:

2006-01-20 Thread D Ross
It's probably not the browser. Dreamweaver often times doesn't show  
css layouts correctly.
If you have a link to your site that would probably help.



On Jan 20, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Cory Perry wrote:

> Hey everyone, I having a problem with my CSS formatting when viewed  
> in a
> browser compared to how I have it layed out in Dreamweaver 8. In  
> DW8, it
> is layed out perfectly and I can read everything just fine. When you
> view the CSS code in the browser however, it is all over the place and
> it loses all of the formatting.
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[css-d] CSS Formatting Issues:

2006-01-20 Thread Cory Perry
Hey everyone, I having a problem with my CSS formatting when viewed in a 
browser compared to how I have it layed out in Dreamweaver 8. In DW8, it 
is layed out perfectly and I can read everything just fine. When you 
view the CSS code in the browser however, it is all over the place and 
it loses all of the formatting.

What causes this? Could it possibly be my ftp program doing it? Is there 
a way to fix this so that it looks just DW8 when viewed in a browser? 
Thanks for any help!

Cory
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