Re: [css-d] Firefox problem with flyout menus

2008-06-05 Thread Ingo Chao
Tom McNeer wrote:
> Ingo,
> 
> Thanks very, very much for your explanation. I didn't actually see anything
> happen in Firebug when I selected #twocolumn and moved my mouse near the
> borderline. What should I have seen?

It was just a debugging note. When hovering over the submenu, the mouse 
looses focus once this imaginary "borderline" is passed, and your menu 
collapses. This wrong behavior is independent from the chosen text-zoom. 
Enlarge the text by one step in Firefox 2, the menu still collapses on 
the same "borderline". So the problem could not be found in the menu 
entries or its scripting, but in its underlying structures.

> 
> But of course, your solution worked. I'm very grateful.
> 
> Just to be clear: the CSS in those divs is part of a pre-built commerce
> package, whose author I'm doing some work for. He freely admits that the
> current CSS is a mess, and has a project going to build far better
> templates.
> 
> So we'll need to see what, if any, effect the change in those attributes has
> in other areas (the person who built the existing CSS is long gone). But now
> we know the problem.
> 
> And I'm very appreciative for your help.
> 
> 
Glad I could help. Again, any other containing floats technique should do.


thanks,
  Ingo


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Re: [css-d] Firefox problem with flyout menus

2008-06-05 Thread Tom McNeer
Ingo,

Thanks very, very much for your explanation. I didn't actually see anything
happen in Firebug when I selected #twocolumn and moved my mouse near the
borderline. What should I have seen?

But of course, your solution worked. I'm very grateful.

Just to be clear: the CSS in those divs is part of a pre-built commerce
package, whose author I'm doing some work for. He freely admits that the
current CSS is a mess, and has a project going to build far better
templates.

So we'll need to see what, if any, effect the change in those attributes has
in other areas (the person who built the existing CSS is long gone). But now
we know the problem.

And I'm very appreciative for your help.


-- 
Thanks,

Tom

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Re: [css-d] Firefox problem with flyout menus

2008-06-05 Thread Ingo Chao
Tom McNeer wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Before I ask for help, let me warn everyone that the code I'm about to point
> you to does not validate. And I do not (at the moment) have
> access/permission to make it so.
> 
> But if you're willing to take a look, I'd appreciate any opinions on the
> problem.
> 
> It involves the integration of a CSS/Javascript menu generated by OpenCube's
> QuickMenu. I have contacted their support regarding the issue; but the
> problem seems not to be in their code, but in its interaction with other
> styling or Javascript within the page. And it's creating an effect I've
> never seen before.
> 
> You may view an example at http://sitedirectorcssdev4.quilldesign.com. In IE
> 6 and 7, and in Safari, the drop-down/flyout menus which descend from
> "Category 1" and "Category 2" work correctly.
> 
> But in Firefox, on both Mac and PC, the sub-menus will often disappear even
> while hovered over. Typical behavior is for the menus to appear correctly to
> start with, then begin to disappear as one moves around. For example, start
> with Category 1, then go to Sub-Category 3, then move out to
> Sub-sub-category Five.
> 
> I know I'm asking for help on something that can't be tested properly at the
> moment. I'm just hoping it's something that someone may have run into
> previously, and can point me in a direction for troubleshooting.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> 

There are two nested boxes following the header with the menu in 
question, #main and #twocolumn. both have overflow:hidden set, probably 
to contain floats, the "easy way" (the buggy way, I should add).

But Firefox seems to loose track on the menu once the mouse hovers a 
position above the overflow area. Your script just slows down the 
effect. Open your page with Firebug and highlight #twocolumn, then let 
the mouse gently move towards the borderline.

In Firebug, remove overflow:hidden from both and use display:table 
instead, for debugging.

You will have to choose another containing floats method. I'd suggest 
starting with a solid clearer, or using the easyclearing method.

Ingo




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[css-d] Firefox problem with flyout menus

2008-06-05 Thread Tom McNeer
Hi folks,

Before I ask for help, let me warn everyone that the code I'm about to point
you to does not validate. And I do not (at the moment) have
access/permission to make it so.

But if you're willing to take a look, I'd appreciate any opinions on the
problem.

It involves the integration of a CSS/Javascript menu generated by OpenCube's
QuickMenu. I have contacted their support regarding the issue; but the
problem seems not to be in their code, but in its interaction with other
styling or Javascript within the page. And it's creating an effect I've
never seen before.

You may view an example at http://sitedirectorcssdev4.quilldesign.com. In IE
6 and 7, and in Safari, the drop-down/flyout menus which descend from
"Category 1" and "Category 2" work correctly.

But in Firefox, on both Mac and PC, the sub-menus will often disappear even
while hovered over. Typical behavior is for the menus to appear correctly to
start with, then begin to disappear as one moves around. For example, start
with Category 1, then go to Sub-Category 3, then move out to
Sub-sub-category Five.

I know I'm asking for help on something that can't be tested properly at the
moment. I'm just hoping it's something that someone may have run into
previously, and can point me in a direction for troubleshooting.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

-- 
Thanks,

Tom

Tom McNeer
MediumCool
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Atlanta, GA 30306
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