Re: [css-d] IE6 flicker bug - can't seem to fix it
--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Bruno Fassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With which IE6 version are you seeing the problem? I ask this since I do not see flicker in your pages with a real IE6. Remember that the so called stand-alone versions of IE6 are not IE6 SP1 (they are a bit older) and so are not sensitive to the js fix. You are correct sir. I kept testing on a stand-alone version if IE6 indeed and that's when the fix would not work. Once I actually tried it on a real IE6 (v6.0.2800.1106), I found out that the fix worked perfectly. Hadn't thought of really trying that. Thanks! :) __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE6 flicker bug - can't seem to fix it
Mark Senff wrote: --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apart from that, whether it's a bug or a user-setting or a feature or (fill in your own word of preference), there ARE fixes for it so I'm really curious why those don't work for me. mS Not likely to do the trick, but I do recall a fix for flash of unstyled content being to move another linked file ahead of your CSS link - try placing your CSS after the javascript link in your head. Addresses a different bug, but it is worth a shot...even if in the dark. -- *Jono *// __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE6 flicker bug - can't seem to fix it
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] discuss.org] On Behalf Of Mark Senff Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 11:05 AM To: Gunlaug Sørtun Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] IE6 flicker bug - can't seem to fix it --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my book: if end-users don't know how to set preferences in their own browser so it works for them, or deliberately set them so their browser works badly, then there's nothing I can or will do other than to tell those who ask what they can do about it - at their end. I absolutely do agree that if a user changes a specific setting and that breaks stuff, it's not up to us to fix that. However, the IE6 flicker bug seems to be common enough for me to wonder if that specific IE6 setting isn't standard or default for some versions or anything? I mean, a friend of mine came across it and he swore he never even changed that setting. Apart from that, whether it's a bug or a user-setting or a feature or (fill in your own word of preference), there ARE fixes for it so I'm really curious why those don't work for me. Did you try Dan Popa's fix? Isn't it working for you? http://www.mister-pixel.com/ -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
[css-d] IE6 flicker bug - can't seem to fix it
Hey all, I'm in the process of creating a standard base 4-level Suckerfish menu that is 100% compatible with FF, IE6/7/8, Opera and Safari (Win). (for the sake of argument, let's not go into details why other browsers should be supported too. this is what's on my plate for now) that I can use as a reference for whenever I need such a menu. Everything seems to work, EXCEPT this dreaded IE6 flicker bug and I can't seem to fix it for some stupid reason. I've tried the following: 1. image as background of the anchor tag 2. image as background of the listitem 3. image as background of both (double-buffered) All three versions call the JS code that's mentioned on http://www.mister-pixel.com/#Content__state=is_that_simple but to no avail. The image keeps flickering in IE6. I'm sure I'm overlooking something real easy, but I can't figure it out. I would appreciate it if someone could take a look and let me know. For this example I removed all deeper levels of the menu, so you can just focus on the images and hover states. http://www.marksenff.com/help/suckerfish/files/1_image_in_anchor.html http://www.marksenff.com/help/suckerfish/files/1_image_in_anchor.css http://www.marksenff.com/help/suckerfish/files/2_image_in_listitem.html http://www.marksenff.com/help/suckerfish/files/2_image_in_listitem.css http://www.marksenff.com/help/suckerfish/files/3_double_buffered.html http://www.marksenff.com/help/suckerfish/files/3_double_buffered.css JS file (also contains code for IE6 sfhover): http://www.marksenff.com/help/suckerfish/ie6_fixes.js To see the error in action, you will need to change your IE6 settings: Tools - Internet Options - Temporary Internet Files Settings - Every visit to the page Really, am I doing something wrong or did I totally forget something? Thanks for your help in advance! mS __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE6 flicker bug - can't seem to fix it
Mark Senff wrote: To see the error in action, you will need to change your IE6 settings: Tools - Internet Options - Temporary Internet Files Settings - Every visit to the page Info: http://www.brunildo.org/test/IEAbackima.html regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE6 flicker bug - can't seem to fix it
--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Info: http://www.brunildo.org/test/IEAbackima.html I know that page, and under WORKAROUNDS it does list the following: Update September 2006 - Thanks to Dan Popa, a javascript workaround using an undocumented parameter in a Microsoft proprietary function is available, at least for IE6 SP1 (and newer.) Check this same page with the js fix applied. I applied the JS fix (as described in my original post) but that didn't seem to work (the JS file IS being called, I'd say??). Or were you referring to another specific part of that page? Server configuration is not possible, by the way. mS __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE6 flicker bug - can't seem to fix it
Mark Senff wrote: I applied the JS fix (as described in my original post) but that didn't seem to work (the JS file IS being called, I'd say??). Or were you referring to another specific part of that page? Server configuration is not possible, by the way. I see it as an end-user selectable MSIE feature and not as a bug or an error, so I've never bothered to fix it. It may be annoying, but it doesn't make designs fail in any way. In my book: if end-users don't know how to set preferences in their own browser so it works for them, or deliberately set them so their browser works badly, then there's nothing I can or will do other than to tell those who ask what they can do about it - at their end. End-users can make any browser work what I would call badly, and all I can and will do at my end is to test and assure that my creations at least work reasonably well - can be accessed and used - under as many end-user selectable conditions as possible. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
Re: [css-d] IE6 flicker bug - can't seem to fix it
--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my book: if end-users don't know how to set preferences in their own browser so it works for them, or deliberately set them so their browser works badly, then there's nothing I can or will do other than to tell those who ask what they can do about it - at their end. I absolutely do agree that if a user changes a specific setting and that breaks stuff, it's not up to us to fix that. However, the IE6 flicker bug seems to be common enough for me to wonder if that specific IE6 setting isn't standard or default for some versions or anything? I mean, a friend of mine came across it and he swore he never even changed that setting. Apart from that, whether it's a bug or a user-setting or a feature or (fill in your own word of preference), there ARE fixes for it so I'm really curious why those don't work for me. mS __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
