Re: [css-d] Safari on Windows has a nifty CSS debugger

2008-09-25 Thread Charles Roper
Hedley Finger wrote:
 I have used the DOM inspector but Firebug will not (yet) install in 
 Firefox 3.x, although oddly enough, some of its plug-ins will!

Firebug does work in Firefox 3.x:

http://getfirebug.com/releases/index.html

 I can't get Chrome to install properly and *function* on Windows XP 
 SP3.  And for some weird reason it installs in my home directory, not in 
 C:\\Program Files\, like every other app on the planet, including 
 Google's other apps.  Also, Chrome is built on a version of WebKit 
 earlier than that in Safari, so I am afraid I will have to forego 
 Chrome's tools.

The reason Chrome installs where it does is discussed here:

http://snipr.com/3tv6c  [stackoverflow_com]

It's a *really* nice browser, so I'd urge you to try it. Perhaps you'll 
have more luck with Chromium, the non-branded development version. You 
can download nightly builds here:

http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/

More on Chromium here:

http://code.google.com/chromium/

 Internet Explorer has the Internet Development Toolbar which lets you 
 inspect elements, and to see if they're being given layout.

IE8 beta 2 also has developer tools built in:

http://snipr.com/3tva8  [blogs_msdn_com]

This is possibly the most useful of the lot, especially the rendering 
switcher for testing compatibility between 7 and 8.

Charles
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Re: [css-d] Safari on Windows has a nifty CSS debugger

2008-09-16 Thread Hedley Finger

Jack:

Thanks for these tips.

 Firefox has its own DOM interpreter, but also has the Firebug 
 extension, which will allow you to inspect/edit the DOM and 
 stylesheets while viewing the page.

I have used the DOM inspector but Firebug will not (yet) install in 
Firefox 3.x, although oddly enough, some of its plug-ins will!

 Opera has Dragonfly, I think, built in that lets you do the same.

Thanks, will check it out.

 Google Chrome is built from Safari, and also includes helpful 
 development tools.

I can't get Chrome to install properly and *function* on Windows XP 
SP3.  And for some weird reason it installs in my home directory, not in 
C:\\Program Files\, like every other app on the planet, including 
Google's other apps.  Also, Chrome is built on a version of WebKit 
earlier than that in Safari, so I am afraid I will have to forego 
Chrome's tools.

 Internet Explorer has the Internet Development Toolbar which lets you 
 inspect elements, and to see if they're being given layout.

Ah, yes, the dreaded hasLayout bug.

Regards,
Hedley


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[css-d] Safari on Windows has a nifty CSS debugger

2008-09-15 Thread Hedley Finger

All:

You may not be aware that Apple now makes Safari available for Windows.  
It has a nifty Web Inspector that allows you to click on an HTML element 
and see all the CSS selectors and formats that affect that element, 
including inherited values.  Nifft!

Regards,
Hedley

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