[css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Christopher]

Over the course of the past few days, I have asked numerous questions 
about my site.  Now I know I'm not a CSS\HTML guru but I have learned
a lot from the people of this list, enough to have a much stronger 
understanding. I'm just trying to solve two or three more problems and 
although it is
benificial to have a understanding of CSS and HTML, I feel I have that 
understanding, although some of you on the list probably would disagree 
with me, but that is your opinion.
I'm just trying to get a site developed in a very short amount of time. 

Now that I have reached that point and got my site to the point I want 
it, many question me,making me feel uncapable of designing a site.  Recently
I had asked how to get #flashbox in the position that I need ? And how 
come it breaks up in IE7 ? Instead I got "remove this guy", "you're 
wasting everyones time", "learn
CSS".  Although some did help things did not work out as expected so I 
had to re-ask the question not cause I wanted too, but rather I was not 
getting the knowledge I needed.

Secondly I appreciate all the help I got up to this point., and even the 
template. I would like to know how to fix it on my HTML instead of using 
a template. 

If anyone is willing to help me in that manner I am all ears.


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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Peter Hyde-Smith]

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From: "Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CSS Discuss" 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:51 PM
Subject: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs



> I'm just trying to get a site developed in a very short amount of time.
>
> Secondly I appreciate all the help I got up to this point., and even the
> template. I would like to know how to fix it on my HTML instead of using
> a template.
>

Christopher:

I think these are the points Ingo, David, and others, including myself are 
trying to make.

1. This is a list discussing CSS issues.
2. There is a list wiki, http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ and list archives 
http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/ that may already cover 
you questions.
3. It is not a CSS tutorial list.
4. It is not a list relevent to discussing or fixing HTML outside of its 
connection to CSS. For that see here, http://webdesign-l.com/
5. It is surely not a list for site development, especially SINCE ADVICE 
HERE IS FREE, NOT PAID FOR.
6. People generally post to the list with their websites already having 
substantially complete and functional HTML and CSS.
7. You came to the list with your site woefully under-developed, and 
yourself seemingly woefully under-resourced.
8. Failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency for the 
list.

My recommendations are: do #6, avoid #7 and #8, search #2, adhere to #1. 
You'll get willing assistance instead of being called a troll.

Peter
www.fatpawdesign.com
WIN XP/SP2, IE8/FF3/O9/A11
Mac OS.X, FF


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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Jim Nannery]

Afternoon Christopher

You wrote

> Over the course of the past few days, I have asked numerous questions
> about my site.  Now I know I'm not a CSS\HTML guru but I have learned
> a lot from the people of this list, enough to have a much stronger
> understanding. I'm just trying to solve two or three more problems and
> although it is
> benificial to have a understanding of CSS and HTML, I feel I have that
> understanding, >

> snipped out a bit here

You need to validate your CSS every time you post a new page.  You currently 
[1] have two errors; one that may be having an effect your #flashbox.

It was pointed out in a earlier thread [2] that you *cannot use* negative 
padding.  You have padding-top -12px on #flashbox and padding-left -12px on 


I does make *me*  wonder if you *understand*  CSS as well as *you*  think 
you do.

Keep plugging away at it. it's a struggle worth waging

Best

[1] http://www.walkfar.ca/test/productionsite14.html
[2] http://lists.css-discuss.org/mailman/private/css-d/2008-July/089210.html

Jim Nannery
www.gotbeebar.com

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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Christopher]

Jim Nannery wrote:
> Afternoon Christopher
>
> You wrote
>
>> Over the course of the past few days, I have asked numerous questions
>> about my site.  Now I know I'm not a CSS\HTML guru but I have learned
>> a lot from the people of this list, enough to have a much stronger
>> understanding. I'm just trying to solve two or three more problems and
>> although it is
>> benificial to have a understanding of CSS and HTML, I feel I have that
>> understanding, >
>
>> snipped out a bit here
>
> You need to validate your CSS every time you post a new page.  You 
> currently [1] have two errors; one that may be having an effect your 
> #flashbox.
>
> It was pointed out in a earlier thread [2] that you *cannot use* 
> negative padding.  You have padding-top -12px on #flashbox and 
> padding-left -12px on 
>
> I does make *me*  wonder if you *understand*  CSS as well as *you*  
> think you do.
>
> Keep plugging away at it. it's a struggle worth waging
>
> Best
>
> [1] http://www.walkfar.ca/test/productionsite14.html
> [2] 
> http://lists.css-discuss.org/mailman/private/css-d/2008-July/089210.html
>
> Jim Nannery
> www.gotbeebar.com
>
>
Alright, I cleaned up all my errors.  Now how could I possible get that 
#flash box to move more to the left
but keep it whereas the #topbar does not break when the browser is 
resized as it was doing previously ?


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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Bill Brown]

Christopher wrote:
> Alright, I cleaned up all my errors.  Now how could I possible get that 
> #flash box to move more to the left
> but keep it whereas the #topbar does not break when the browser is 
> resized as it was doing previously ?

Christopher,

I read your blog incidentally, available at .

Seriously now...is all of this some kind of a joke?
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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Christopher]

Christopher wrote:
> Jim Nannery wrote:
>   
>> Afternoon Christopher
>>
>> You wrote
>>
>> 
>>> Over the course of the past few days, I have asked numerous questions
>>> about my site.  Now I know I'm not a CSS\HTML guru but I have learned
>>> a lot from the people of this list, enough to have a much stronger
>>> understanding. I'm just trying to solve two or three more problems and
>>> although it is
>>> benificial to have a understanding of CSS and HTML, I feel I have that
>>> understanding, >
>>>   
>>> snipped out a bit here
>>>   
>> You need to validate your CSS every time you post a new page.  You 
>> currently [1] have two errors; one that may be having an effect your 
>> #flashbox.
>>
>> It was pointed out in a earlier thread [2] that you *cannot use* 
>> negative padding.  You have padding-top -12px on #flashbox and 
>> padding-left -12px on 
>>
>> I does make *me*  wonder if you *understand*  CSS as well as *you*  
>> think you do.
>>
>> Keep plugging away at it. it's a struggle worth waging
>>
>> Best
>>
>> [1] http://www.walkfar.ca/test/productionsite14.html
>> [2] 
>> http://lists.css-discuss.org/mailman/private/css-d/2008-July/089210.html
>>
>> Jim Nannery
>> www.gotbeebar.com
>>
>>
>> 
> Alright, I cleaned up all my errors.  Now how could I possible get that 
> #flash box to move more to the left
> but keep it whereas the #topbar does not break when the browser is 
> resized as it was doing previously ?
>
>
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I think I realized the problem, I have the #flashbox in a  could 
this be the cause of the problem?
Referring to using floats, to have everything float around to eliminate 
my {body} #topbar that gets cut off
when I don't use floats.  You are suppose to be able to position the 
floated element using margins on the page or padding
neither of them work.
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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Svend Tofte]

2008/7/26 Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I think I realized the problem, I have the #flashbox in a  could
> this be the cause of the problem?

Why don't you try to remove the wrapping div, or otherwise try to
experiment yourself? Never ask a "yes/no" question, because all too
often, these are so trivially easy to find out yourself. "Does this
work?" -> "Well maybe it does, why don't you try?"

> Referring to using floats, to have everything float around to eliminate
> my {body} #topbar that gets cut off
> when I don't use floats.  You are suppose to be able to position the
> floated element using margins on the page or padding
> neither of them work.

You really need to provide some more context. What #topbar? You want
me to backtrack the emails in order to figure out what you're on now?
What's the code.

I know you're "almost" there with your site, but for future reference,
maybe try to heed some of the advice you'll find here
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Regards,
Svend
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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Svend Tofte]

2008/7/26 Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Svend Tofte wrote:
>> [snipped]
>> Regards,
>> Svend

> Hi, Steve take a look at the site

I was almost gonna help you, but then ..
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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Christopher]

Svend Tofte wrote:
> 2008/7/26 Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> Svend Tofte wrote:
>> 
>>> [snipped]
>>> Regards,
>>> Svend
>>>   
>
>   
>> Hi, Steve take a look at the site
>> 
>
> I was almost gonna help you, but then ..
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Then ?

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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Christopher]

Christopher wrote:
> Svend Tofte wrote:
>   
>> 2008/7/26 Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>   
>> 
>>> Svend Tofte wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 [snipped]
 Regards,
 Svend
   
 
>>   
>> 
>>> Hi, Steve take a look at the site
>>> 
>>>   
>> I was almost gonna help you, but then ..
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> Then ?
>
>   
I think this is starting to become a game on this list with me.  It's 
all just ping pong replies but nothing I can say OH THAT'S WHY.


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Re: [css-d] Web Site Dev & Beefs

[Matijs]

On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Christopher wrote:
> > Svend Tofte wrote:
> >
> >> 2008/7/26 Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Svend Tofte wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  [snipped]
>  Regards,
>  Svend
> 
> 
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi, Steve take a look at the site
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I was almost gonna help you, but then ..
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> > Then ?
> >
> >
> I think this is starting to become a game on this list with me.  It's
> all just ping pong replies but nothing I can say OH THAT'S WHY.


Maybe you should think long and hard as to why that is...
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