Re: [css-d] browser check

[Shaf Syed]

Firefox 3.613 on Windows:

Just run it through a validator and you will see the obvious small 
errors.  Fix them first and proceed form there. I get no wrapping on my 
end. I also think it is unique that the main header re-sizes :)


Have fun coding!

On 2/13/2011 2:52 PM, tedd wrote:

At 2:58 PM -0800 2/11/11, Matthew P. Johnson wrote:


I am almost finished with our house site. Can you let me know if it 
displays

correctly in your browser/os?

http://applegateelements.com/



Matthew:

I find the banner interesting in that it changes size to accommodate 
the browser window, but the main menu wraps needlessly (i.e., 
"Contact" drops below "Home").


You might also check out:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://applegateelements.com/


Cheers,

tedd

PS: Safari 5.0.3


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Re: [css-d] browser check

[tedd]

At 2:58 PM -0800 2/11/11, Matthew P. Johnson wrote:


I am almost finished with our house site. Can you let me know if it displays
correctly in your browser/os?

http://applegateelements.com/



Matthew:

I find the banner interesting in that it changes size to accommodate 
the browser window, but the main menu wraps needlessly (i.e., 
"Contact" drops below "Home").


You might also check out:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://applegateelements.com/


Cheers,

tedd

PS: Safari 5.0.3
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Re: [css-d] browser check (Matthew P. Johnson)

[Matthew P. Johnson]

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Site looks good, other than the misspelling in the header image...



Oh wow... thanks for catching that.

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Re: [css-d] browser check (Matthew P. Johnson)

[Andrew C. Johnston]

Site looks good, other than the misspelling in the header image...




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Hi Ya'll



I am almost finished with our house site. Can you let me know if it displays
correctly in your browser/os?



Tanks :0)



http://applegateelements.com/



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Re: [css-d] browser check

[Matthew P. Johnson]

-Original Message-
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[mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Chris Blake
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:20 PM
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> - the entire image and navigation
> magnify and reduce together.


Yeh that bits cool.
I went to one of the gallery pages - there no loader and it was quite a wait
for the first large image. Whilst waiting the border does not sit where it
should be, it is up and behind the thumbs. I would have thought a .clear in
the thumbnail container would fix it.

>
> Regards,
>
> Beth Lee
> www.bethleedesign.com


I will try .clear and see if that fixes it. Thx :)

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Re: [css-d] browser check

[Matthew P. Johnson]

-Original Message-
From: Beth Lee [mailto:callib...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:10 PM
To: 'Matthew P. Johnson'; 'Chris F.A. Johnson'
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: RE: [css-d] browser check

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Matthew P. Johnson wrote:

>>> I am almost finished with our house site. Can you let me know if it  
>>>displays correctly in your browser/os?
>>>...
>>> http://applegateelements.com/

>> Is this how you want it to look? <http://t.cfaj.ca/applegate.jpg>

> Oh man what browser/os is this? It does not look right at all. 

On Windows Vista, looks fine in Chrome, IE8, Firefox, and Safari, as long as
the window is large enough. But look at it in a 800x600 window. The header
image reduces to fit, while the navigation bar causes a scroll bar, so that
there is a gap to the right of the header image when you scroll right. Kind
of strange looking, I think. I'd say that wasn't a problem, since so few
people browse on their computers at 800x600.  But given this behavior, I'm
surprised that it looks fine on a Droid X -- the entire image and navigation
magnify and reduce together.

Regards,

Beth Lee
www.bethleedesign.com



Beth: I am not too concerned about 800x600 resolution and kept that in mind
when I started. Thank you :)



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Re: [css-d] browser check

[Chris Blake]

- the entire image and navigation
magnify and reduce together.



Yeh that bits cool.
I went to one of the gallery pages - there no loader and it was quite  
a wait for the first large image. Whilst waiting the border does not  
sit where it should be, it is up and behind the thumbs. I would have  
thought a .clear in the thumbnail container would fix it.




Regards,

Beth Lee
www.bethleedesign.com




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Re: [css-d] browser check

[Beth Lee]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Matthew P. Johnson wrote:

>>> I am almost finished with our house site. Can you let me know if it 
>>> displays correctly in your browser/os?
>>>...
>>> http://applegateelements.com/

>> Is this how you want it to look? 

> Oh man what browser/os is this? It does not look right at all. 

On Windows Vista, looks fine in Chrome, IE8, Firefox, and Safari, as long as
the window is large enough. But look at it in a 800x600 window. The header
image reduces to fit, while the navigation bar causes a scroll bar, so that
there is a gap to the right of the header image when you scroll right. Kind
of strange looking, I think. I'd say that wasn't a problem, since so few
people browse on their computers at 800x600.  But given this behavior, I'm
surprised that it looks fine on a Droid X -- the entire image and navigation
magnify and reduce together.

Regards,

Beth Lee
www.bethleedesign.com




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Re: [css-d] browser check

[Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Matthew P. Johnson wrote:


Oh man what browser/os is this? It does not look right at all.


Any browser that supports "minimum font size", I would imagine.
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Re: [css-d] browser check

[Matthew P. Johnson]

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[mailto:css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of James Sheffer
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Seems to display fine here:

Mac 10.6x
Safari

WIN XP
IE 8
Firefox 3.6

James Sheffer,

The HigherPowered Team!


Beautiful, thank you James. :)

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Re: [css-d] browser check

[Matthew P. Johnson]

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Matthew P. Johnson wrote:

> I am almost finished with our house site. Can you let me know if it 
> displays correctly in your browser/os?
...
> http://applegateelements.com/

Is this how you want it to look? <http://t.cfaj.ca/applegate.jpg>

(Which browser and which OS are irrelevant.)

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Oh man what browser/os is this? It does not look right at all. 


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Re: [css-d] browser check

[James Sheffer]

Seems to display fine here:

Mac 10.6x
Safari

WIN XP
IE 8
Firefox 3.6

James Sheffer,

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On Feb 11, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Matthew P. Johnson wrote:

> Hi Ya'll
> 
> 
> 
> I am almost finished with our house site. Can you let me know if it displays
> correctly in your browser/os?
> 
> 
> 
> Tanks :0)
> 
> 
> 
> http://applegateelements.com/
> 
> 
> 
> Matthew P. Johnson | Eco I.T.
> 
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Re: [css-d] browser check

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Matthew P. Johnson wrote:


I am almost finished with our house site. Can you let me know if it displays
correctly in your browser/os?

...

http://applegateelements.com/


   Is this how you want it to look? 

   (Which browser and which OS are irrelevant.)

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[css-d] browser check

[Matthew P. Johnson]

Hi Ya'll

 

I am almost finished with our house site. Can you let me know if it displays
correctly in your browser/os?

 

Tanks :0)

 

http://applegateelements.com/

 

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Re: [css-d] browser check pls -- intermittent problem in ie8

[David Laakso]

snak detek+0r wrote:
> Intermittent is generous, actually. My client was browsing in ie8 at 75% 
> zoom, and saw the problem pictured here
>
> http://bit.ly/cxZRUU
>
> but I can't replicate it. Any one else able to get this to happen in ie8 
> or other?
>
> Real site is here:
>
> http://bit.ly/dddkTA
>
>
> Is it common for zoom to break layout? Or is it just some quirky ie 
> rendering problem (which did see a bit of while I was poking around...).
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> josh
>   




Mac BookPro [116.5dpi] OS X 10.4 most any browser at all  at -1, -2, or 
-3 font-scaling reproduces the issue shown in your screenshot.

By far and away the vast majority of sites on the Web break with "cruel 
and unusual treatment" [also known as "Welcome to the World Wide Web," 
and basic "stress-testing"]. This might include, but is not necessarily 
just limited too, testing at up and down font-scaling, testing at 
minimum font-size at 16, 24, and 36; and, so on...

Best,
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Re: [css-d] browser check pls -- intermittent problem in ie8

[Chris Blake]

On 13/07/2010, at 11:50 AM, snak detek+0r wrote:

> Intermittent is generous, actually. My client was browsing in ie8 at  
> 75%
> zoom, and saw the problem pictured here
>
> http://bit.ly/cxZRUU
>
> but I can't replicate it. Any one else able to get this to happen in  
> ie8
> or other?
>
> Real site is here:
>
> http://bit.ly/dddkTA
>
>
> Is it common for zoom to break layout? Or is it just some quirky ie
> rendering problem (which did see a bit of while I was poking  
> around...).
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> josh

I can replicate it in mac os x safari 5 by zooming out 3 times (apple  
+). Mine breaks if I zoom out like that too.

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Re: [css-d] browser check pls -- intermittent problem in ie8

[Felix Miata]

On 2010/07/12 22:50 (GMT-0500) snak detek+0r composed:

> http://bit.ly/dddkTA

> Is it common for zoom to break layout?

Very, at least for those using text-only zoom instead of full page zoom.
Remember that all who could use page zoom instead of text-only zoom won't,
and that minimum mimics text-only. Both zoom types have their advantages.
Also both zooms and minimum have in common that they are defense mechanisms.
Absent offense, defense is unnecessary, and consequently, breakage is
generally avoided.

Set minimum font size to 20 or 24px in a browser that offers it, and watch
white (shopping cart) text disappear and "appointment" move to the background
accompanied by "view".

http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Sites/Ksc/ can show how zoom and minimum can be
accommodated by being unnecessary, and that fonts need not be sub-preference
(less than 100% of default on p or body) for a web design to work.
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[css-d] browser check pls -- intermittent problem in ie8

[snak detek+0r]

Intermittent is generous, actually. My client was browsing in ie8 at 75% 
zoom, and saw the problem pictured here

http://bit.ly/cxZRUU

but I can't replicate it. Any one else able to get this to happen in ie8 
or other?

Real site is here:

http://bit.ly/dddkTA


Is it common for zoom to break layout? Or is it just some quirky ie 
rendering problem (which did see a bit of while I was poking around...).


Thanks in advance,

josh
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Re: [css-d] -browser check

[tony]

Thanks David and Alan for taking time to look and explain.
I had decided and allowed for some but not the smallest monitors, setting a
min width of 760px and max width of 1200px. Middle ground?
I have followed you references back to positon:fixed. I'm not commercial so
don't have to be available to everyone IE4 up or Linux.
As my very first attempt, first priority is to get a web page out there
hopefully to IE7 or better browsers. A gamble yes.
Subsequently if anyone looks and browser version becomes an issue / can drop
back and rethink my webpage layout, taking onboard your comments.
Frustrating that the popout menu requires very quick precise mouse selection
to work. So, once visible on the web, my first objective is to rework that
sub-menu.
As a learner CSS every single aspect I touch has huge ripples of
implications, so I get transfixed not knowing what is safe to ignore and
what is mission critical. If only I could short-cut and mainline your
experience!
With the bones set out just a little more CSS skill should transform the
page appearance, so this will become my next objective.
Thanks for your help along the way to an almost just passable webpage?
Tony

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To: tony
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tony wrote:
> Hi David,
> That is very discouraging. I setout to design my own modest webpage 
> not just adapt an existing layout.


Your menu is absolutely position along with other elements on the page. 
This is your page with a smaller window.

http://css-class.com/test/images/ap-hidden-content.png


This is why a different layout was suggested.


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Re: [css-d] -browser check

[Alan Gresley]

tony wrote:
> Hi David,
> That is very discouraging. I setout to design my own modest webpage not just
> adapt an existing layout.


Your menu is absolutely position along with other elements on the page. 
This is your page with a smaller window.

http://css-class.com/test/images/ap-hidden-content.png


This is why a different layout was suggested.


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Re: [css-d] -browser check

[David Laakso]

tony wrote:
> That is very discouraging. I setout to design my own modest webpage not just
> adapt an existing layout.
> Can anyone explain in layman terms what limitations of IE6 I have crossed so
> that I can take it into account when I rethink my design.
> What you seem to say is that CSS is really limited in what it can achieve
> cross browsers, so stick to simple well established layouts.
> Tony
>
>
>   
>> www.somersetspiess.co.uk
>> Can anyone please give me a clue as to where I need to go to start to 
>> sort out this IE6 mess?
>> Tony
>>   
>> 
>
>   


IE/6 and down don't understand (do not support) position: fixed;  [1] 
and revert to position: static;
Google, subject line: position:fixed; will bring up hundreds of links 
attempting to deal with this problem.

It is encouraging that  Anne van Kesteren, Georg Sortun, and many other 
friends of the Web, share their work for work-around solutions in IE/6.

Whatever drum you wish to follow, you may want to let your page run rail 
to rail, or set an overall horizontal width, so the page will be 
functional even if the user is not on a 1024 monitor.

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#fixed-positioning

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Re: [css-d] -browser check

[tony]

Hi David,
That is very discouraging. I setout to design my own modest webpage not just
adapt an existing layout.
Can anyone explain in layman terms what limitations of IE6 I have crossed so
that I can take it into account when I rethink my design.
What you seem to say is that CSS is really limited in what it can achieve
cross browsers, so stick to simple well established layouts.
Tony

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tony wrote:
> www.somersetspiess.co.uk
> Can anyone please give me a clue as to where I need to go to start to 
> sort out this IE6 mess?
> Tony
>   

You might consider this layout by Georg Sortun as a base layout. It works
cross-browser.
<http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_8b.html>
Put the menu in the right column, and the image of the gentlepeople in the
left column. I really can't help with the menu-- it's impossible to hold the
fly-out in any browser.
A simple menu alternative that would save a lot of grief and frustration
might be to use a nested list instead-- no javascript need for IE/6.
<http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic2/vertical02.htm>

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Re: [css-d] -browser check

[David Laakso]

tony wrote:
> www.somersetspiess.co.uk
> Can anyone please give me a clue as to where I need to go to start to sort
> out this IE6 mess?
> Tony
>   

You might consider this layout by Georg Sortun as a base layout. It 
works cross-browser.

Put the menu in the right column, and the image of the gentlepeople in 
the left column. I really can't help with the menu-- it's impossible to 
hold the fly-out in any browser.
A simple menu alternative that would save a lot of grief and frustration 
might be to use a nested list instead-- no javascript need for IE/6.


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[css-d] -browser check

[tony]

Hi,
Thought I had it sorted, checked IE7 and Gecko, validated my CSS and HTML
all ok.
Tried site out on different machine under IE6 and it went to pieces.
My banner should be a composite of background colour, image and shadow text,
thought it worked if very dirty. Under IE6 text has slipped away and lost my
width setting and gained a margin.
The pop-out menu that's given me so much grief has slipped out of the
sidebar.
Apart from that everything else is working?
as can be seen at:
www.somersetspiess.co.uk
Can anyone please give me a clue as to where I need to go to start to sort
out this IE6 mess?
Tony
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Re: [css-d] browser check

[Ian Young]

> Subject: [css-d] browser check
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I did this site (it is a final project for a class) and have been
> told that it has problems in IE 6.  I checked it on my computer
> IE 6 and FireFox and did not have any problems.
>
> If you have a second could you please check
> http://webtech.tstc.edu/students/gardnerj/cns/index.htm
>
> And let me know any problems you find.  I am sorry I don't have
> any details, my instructor just emailed my and said - "Please add
> support for IE6", so I am not exactly sure what isn't working - I
> am assuming it is the navigation because I don't know what else
> wouldn't work.
>
> Thank you,
> Jennifer
>


Hi Jennifer

I have checked in FF, IE6/7, Opera9 and Safari (pc). All works fine except
that in IE6 the font size is too small. This is caused by your using the
default size of 62.5% in the body rule and then font-size:100% in the IE6
conditional. For this to be 12px, you will need to change your conditional
to 120%.

Cheers

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Re: [css-d] browser check

[Matthew Ohlman]

JGardner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I did this site (it is a final project for a class) and have been told that 
> it has problems in IE 6.  I checked it on my computer IE 6 and Firefox and 
> did not have any problems.  
>
> If you have a second could you please check 
> http://webtech.tstc.edu/students/gardnerj/cns/index.htm
>
> And let me know any problems you find.  I am sorry I don't have any details, 
> my instructor just emailed my and said - "Please add support for IE6", so I 
> am not exactly sure what isn't working - I am assuming it is the navigation 
> because I don't know what else wouldn't work.
>
>   
Hi, Jennifer:

I don't see any problems in Firefox 2, IE6, or Safari all on Windows 
XP.  The only discrepancy I see really between them is the font size in 
the navigation is a couple of sizes smaller in IE6.  Other than that 
everything looks good.

HTH,
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[css-d] browser check

[JGardner]

Hi,

I did this site (it is a final project for a class) and have been told that it 
has problems in IE 6.  I checked it on my computer IE 6 and Firefox and did not 
have any problems.  

If you have a second could you please check 
http://webtech.tstc.edu/students/gardnerj/cns/index.htm

And let me know any problems you find.  I am sorry I don't have any details, my 
instructor just emailed my and said - "Please add support for IE6", so I am not 
exactly sure what isn't working - I am assuming it is the navigation because I 
don't know what else wouldn't work.

Thank you,
Jennifer




  

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Re: [css-d] Browser Check Please [Richard Brown]

[~davidLaakso]

Richard Brown wrote:
>   
>> 
>> 
> However, when I look at the site in WinIE 5.5 an d 6.0
> the yellow rounded corner background gains a huge yellow square on the
> right hand side. Can anybody tell me why please?
>   

"Why" I don't know.
#wrapper { overflow-x: hidden; }
Seemed to close it in IE/6.0 (xp :: local). I did not check 5.5.
Best,
~dL
PS Not to add to your issues, but your personal site in not working as 
intended in IE/6.0.

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Re: [css-d] Browser Check Please

[Richard Brown]

Hi

On 04/05/07, Richard Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>
> I know the site needs some more styling work but does it work in WinIE
> please? Particularly the drop down menu and three column elements.
>
After the previous site checks, I have changed the site design (made
it simpler). However, when I look at the site in WinIE 5.5 an d 6.0
the yellow rounded corner background gains a huge yellow square on the
right hand side. Can anybody tell me why please?

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Re: [css-d] Browser check and IE 6 sub navigation problem

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Phil Turner wrote:
> please could someone check in IE 6 as client says the "PRODUCTS" 
> section in the navigation isn't working.
> 
> http://www.kruger.co.uk/

IE6 doesn't support :hover on anything but links.
Possible workaround...


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Re: [css-d] Browser Check Please

[~davidLaakso]

Richard Brown wrote:
> Hi
>
> 
> 
>
> I know the site needs some more styling work but does it work in WinIE
> please? Particularly the drop down menu and three column elements.
>
> Many thanks.
>   

Probably depends on what versions of IE you mean and at what window size 
and at what font-size preference.
Designing Web sites without running the software that most people in the 
world employ to view Web sites must be difficult.
34 Captures:

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[css-d] Browser Check Please

[Richard Brown]

Hi




I know the site needs some more styling work but does it work in WinIE
please? Particularly the drop down menu and three column elements.

Many thanks.
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Re: [css-d] Browser check and IE 6 sub navigation problem

[Phil Turner]

Thanks Scott, I'm on a Mac .. still not getting anywhere any  
other suggestions


On 4 May 2007, at 17:11, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A good way to check your clients pages with other versions of IE is to
> install multiple IE versions on the same machine.  There are a few
> tutorials on how to do this, but the easiest one is the Multiple IEs
> installer from TredoSoft.  http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE  You can
> also check out the page about this on Position is Everything
> http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/multiIE.html and  
> QuirksMode
> http://www.quirksmode.org/browsers/multipleie.html
>
> This will make it a lot easier.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Turner
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:36 AM
> To: css-d
> Subject: [css-d] Browser check and IE 6 sub navigation problem
>
> Hi everyone
> Thanks for all the help getting my site to a nearly finished state,
> please could someone check in IE 6
> as client says the "PRODUCTS"   section in the navigation isn't  
> working.
>
> http://www.kruger.co.uk/
>
> If thats the case can someone tell me why and how I can fix it
>
> Thanks all
>
>
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Re: [css-d] Browser check and IE 6 sub navigation problem

[scott.heckel]

A good way to check your clients pages with other versions of IE is to
install multiple IE versions on the same machine.  There are a few
tutorials on how to do this, but the easiest one is the Multiple IEs
installer from TredoSoft.  http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE  You can
also check out the page about this on Position is Everything
http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/multiIE.html and QuirksMode
http://www.quirksmode.org/browsers/multipleie.html

This will make it a lot easier.

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To: css-d
Subject: [css-d] Browser check and IE 6 sub navigation problem

Hi everyone
Thanks for all the help getting my site to a nearly finished state,
please could someone check in IE 6
as client says the "PRODUCTS"   section in the navigation isn't working.

http://www.kruger.co.uk/

If thats the case can someone tell me why and how I can fix it

Thanks all


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[css-d] Browser check and IE 6 sub navigation problem

[Phil Turner]

Hi everyone
Thanks for all the help getting my site to a nearly finished state,
please could someone check in IE 6
as client says the "PRODUCTS"   section in the navigation isn't working.

http://www.kruger.co.uk/

If thats the case can someone tell me why and how I can fix it

Thanks all


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[css-d] Browser check

[Phil Turner]

Hi everyone
Thanks for all the help getting my site to a nearly finished state,  
please could someone check in IE 6
as client says the "PRODUCTS"   section in the navigation isn't working.

http://www.kruger.co.uk/

If thats the case can someone tell me why and how I can fix it

Thanks all


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Re: [css-d] Browser check please

[~davidLaakso]

David V wrote:
> I am only running ie7 and ff2.
> Could I please have a browser check for ie6 and others.
> Need to know what it looks like to others.
> www.trainingdogs.com.au
> David
I think in order to get reliable cross-browser rendering you will need 
to get the inline styles into the css file and validate the markup and 
the css.
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Re: [css-d] Browser check please

[Portman]

Hi David,

I am not sure what to look for. I did notice that the right hand column 
does not go all the way down to the footer - is it supposed to? Looks 
fine otherwise.

IE6 and FF2.0.0.1, WinXP

HTH,
Riva

David V wrote:
> I am only running ie7 and ff2.
>
> Could I please have a browser check for ie6 and others. 
>
> Need to know what it looks like to others. 
>
> www.trainingdogs.com.au 
>
> Thanks 
>
> David
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[css-d] Browser check please

[David V]

I am only running ie7 and ff2.

 

Could I please have a browser check for ie6 and others.

 

Need to know what it looks like to others.

 

www.trainingdogs.com.au

 

Thanks

 

David

 

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Re: [css-d] browser check please

[Andy Harrison]

Thanks!  :-D


On 2/4/07, ~davidLaakso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ~davidLaakso wrote:
> > Andy Harrison wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry - it's at dragonzreef.com
> >>
> >> On 2/4/07, Andy Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I've got it working in FF 1.5 & 2, Opera 9, and IE 6 & 7.  If you
> could
> >>> test it in any other browsers I'd appreciate it, especially with
> resizing
> >>> the window.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> > Andy, it worked fine for me in XP.
> > When you get to putting real content in the sidebar, it may need to be
> > wider and/or you may have to reduce the horizontal padding to
> > accommodate long words in narrow windows.
> > The markup will probably validate if you close all instances of the
> > final space:
> > from: > href="css/stylesheet.css" />
> > to: > href="css/stylesheet.css"/>
> > There are 18 screen captures (mac & win/2000) captures here:
> > 
> > Best,
> > ~dL
> >
> >
> Whoops! Should read:
>
> The markup will probably validate if you close all instances of the
> final space *and delete the final forward slash:*
> from: href="css/stylesheet.css" />
> to:
>  href="css/stylesheet.css">
>
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Re: [css-d] browser check please

[~davidLaakso]

~davidLaakso wrote:
> Andy Harrison wrote:
>   
>> Sorry - it's at dragonzreef.com
>>
>> On 2/4/07, Andy Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I've got it working in FF 1.5 & 2, Opera 9, and IE 6 & 7.  If you could
>>> test it in any other browsers I'd appreciate it, especially with resizing
>>> the window.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andy
>>>   
> Andy, it worked fine for me in XP.
> When you get to putting real content in the sidebar, it may need to be 
> wider and/or you may have to reduce the horizontal padding to 
> accommodate long words in narrow windows.
> The markup will probably validate if you close all instances of the 
> final space:
> from: href="css/stylesheet.css" />
> to: href="css/stylesheet.css"/>
> There are 18 screen captures (mac & win/2000) captures here:
> 
> Best,
> ~dL
>
>   
Whoops! Should read:

The markup will probably validate if you close all instances of the 
final space *and delete the final forward slash:*
from:
to:




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Re: [css-d] browser check please

[~davidLaakso]

Andy Harrison wrote:
> Sorry - it's at dragonzreef.com
>
> On 2/4/07, Andy Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I've got it working in FF 1.5 & 2, Opera 9, and IE 6 & 7.  If you could
>> test it in any other browsers I'd appreciate it, especially with resizing
>> the window.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andy
Andy, it worked fine for me in XP.
When you get to putting real content in the sidebar, it may need to be 
wider and/or you may have to reduce the horizontal padding to 
accommodate long words in narrow windows.
The markup will probably validate if you close all instances of the 
final space:
from:
to:
There are 18 screen captures (mac & win/2000) captures here:

Best,
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Re: [css-d] browser check please

[Andy Harrison]

Sorry - it's at dragonzreef.com

On 2/4/07, Andy Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've got it working in FF 1.5 & 2, Opera 9, and IE 6 & 7.  If you could
> test it in any other browsers I'd appreciate it, especially with resizing
> the window.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
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[css-d] browser check please

[Andy Harrison]

I've got it working in FF 1.5 & 2, Opera 9, and IE 6 & 7.  If you could test
it in any other browsers I'd appreciate it, especially with resizing the
window.

Thanks,
Andy
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Re: [css-d] Browser Check - Problems with I.E. 6.0 and below ?? help!

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> However what I am still getting is in IE 7.0 under the user log in 
> box on the left hand side, there is a picture and sign up text, 
> however this does not show up in IE 6.0 ??

Try adding a 'hasLayout'[1] trigger...
#sign_in_div {width: 96%;}

> Finally when I tested the page with browsershots.org on safari 2.0 on
>  mac, there are problems with the main navigation and header .

No problems whatsoever in my Safari.
Can't see any differences between Safari 2.0.4 and Firefox 1.5.x/2.x -
other than that the non-existing images show up differently.

> http://www.food.thfctalk.com/test.html

Generally: there are a few weak spots in that layout when font-resize or
'minimum font size'/'ignore font size' is applied. Some overlapping and
overshooting text in the good browsers, and expansion in IE/win.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Browser Check - Problems with I.E. 6.0 and below ?? help!

[ianvaughan1979]

Thanks for the advice and help so far, that seems to have sorted out the 
problem with the middle part of the site.
 
 
However what I am still getting is in IE 7.0 under the user log in box on the 
left hand side, there is a picture and sign up text, however this does not show 
up in IE 6.0 ??
 
Finally when I tested the page with browsershots.org on safari 2.0 on mac, 
there are problems with the main navigation and header .
 
 
Any ideas on what is causing this  ?
 
http://www.food.thfctalk.com/test.html
 
http://www.food.thfctalk.com/test.html
 
 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
> <http://www.food.thfctalk.com/test.html> 
> > works fine in IE 7.0 , it looks as it should, but if you look at it > in IE 
> > 6 or below there are problems with it such as the middle > section of the 
> > page is pushed down to the bottom of the page, the > main navigation is not 
> > inline etc. 
 
Adding... 
 
* html #details {overflow-x: hidden;} 
 
...will prevent the section-drop in IE6. 
Something in that column is too wide - as least as IE6 sees it, and IE6 
doesn't respect declared dimensions and will auto-expand the container 
under such conditions. 
 
The addition of... 
#subnav {clear: both;} 
...should help keeping the columns in their right places in older 
IE/win, and will also reduce the chance for complete column-reshuffle 
if/when font-size is applied - in any browser. 
 
The header-arrangement is fragile in all browsers. There's no 
centering-effect in Firefox and Opera, just an adjustment for the h1. 
The main problem in IE6 is that a 100% wide #nav won't allow the main 
navigation to move up alongside the floating h1 and appear to be 
centered - if that is your intention. 
 
regards 
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Re: [css-d] Browser check

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Noah Learner wrote:
> The following website looks fine in internet expolrer 7.0 and Firefox
>  2.0.0.1 on a pc.  Can you let me know if it is displaying correctly 
> on IE 6 and below.  I don't have a mac or other browsers.
> 
> http://www.learnerdesign.com/acufamily/test5.html

- IE6 breaks it completely by dropping the left column and making all
columns and the entire page too wide.
- Opera 9 is fine.
- Safari 2.0.4 hides everything inside #main_body.
- IE/Mac breaks it somewhat similar to IE6.

The page shows some weaknesses in all browsers on wide screens, so maybe
a max-width around 1100px would be a good idea.

regards
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Re: [css-d] Browser Check - Problems with I.E. 6.0 and below ?? help!

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> works fine in IE 7.0 , it looks as it should, but if you look at it 
> in IE 6 or below there are problems with it such as the middle 
> section of the page is pushed down to the bottom of the page, the 
> main navigation is not inline etc.

Adding...

* html #details {overflow-x: hidden;}

...will prevent the section-drop in IE6.
Something in that column is too wide - as least as IE6 sees it, and IE6
doesn't respect declared dimensions and will auto-expand the container
under such conditions.

The addition of...
#subnav {clear: both;}
...should help keeping the columns in their right places in older
IE/win, and will also reduce the chance for complete column-reshuffle
if/when font-size is applied - in any browser.


The header-arrangement is fragile in all browsers. There's no
centering-effect in Firefox and Opera, just an adjustment for the h1.
The main problem in IE6 is that a 100% wide #nav won't allow the main
navigation to move up alongside the floating h1 and appear to be
centered - if that is your intention.

regards
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[css-d] Browser check

[Noah Learner]

Hi,

The following website looks fine in internet expolrer 7.0 and Firefox 2.0.0.1 
on a pc.  Can you let me know if it is displaying correctly on IE 6 and below.  
I don't have a mac or other browsers.

http://www.learnerdesign.com/acufamily/test5.html

many Thanks

Noah

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Re: [css-d] Browser Check - Problems with I.E. 6.0 and below ?? help!

[~davidLaakso]

~davidLaakso wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> The following website 
>> _http://www.food.thfctalk.com/test.html_ (
>> http://www.food.thfctalk.com/test.html) 
>>  
>> works fine in IE 7.0 , it looks as it should, but if you look at it in IE 6  
>> or below there are problems with it such as the middle section of the page   
>> is pushed down to the bottom of the page, the main navigation is not inline  
>> etc.
>>  
>> _http://www.food.thfctalk.com/style.css_ 
>> (http://www.food.thfctalk.com/style.css)  
>>  
>> Ian
>> 
>
>   
[previous message trimmed]

Ian, I made a /grave error/ in my previous reply to your post. *Do not* 
put an xml declaration above your /html doctype/.
An xml  declaration is /never/ 
used with an html doctype. My mistake.
Regards,
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Re: [css-d] Browser Check - Problems with I.E. 6.0 and below ?? help!

[~davidLaakso]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The following website 
> _http://www.food.thfctalk.com/test.html_ (
> http://www.food.thfctalk.com/test.html) 
>  
> works fine in IE 7.0 , it looks as it should, but if you look at it in IE 6  
> or below there are problems with it such as the middle section of the page   
> is pushed down to the bottom of the page, the main navigation is not inline  
> etc.
>  
> _http://www.food.thfctalk.com/style.css_ 
> (http://www.food.thfctalk.com/style.css)  
>  
> Ian

Ian,

It seems ok in xp standalone ie/6.0 here (can't vouch for what it is 
doing in win/2k).However, it is broken in xp standalone ie/5.5 and 
ie/5.01. The following helped ie/5.5 and ie/5.01 on a local file (you'll 
have to try it on your end):

-- put ie/6 and down in quirksmode by adding an xml declaration 
immediately above the doctype (to make 6 and down easier to control-- 
ie7 will not be effected):

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";>

Then make these additions to the rulesets:
-- body { text-align: center; }  /*add to center the page*/
-- #wrapper { text-align: left;  }/*add to reset the text*/
--#subnav { clear: both;}/*add to clear the float*/

All of the above (if it works for you "live") deals only with the 
"middle of the page" question you wrote about. There are still other 
issues-- but, first things first.
Regards,
~dL
PS Fear not about writing whenever you hit a snag :-) .



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[css-d] Browser Check - Problems with I.E. 6.0 and below ?? help!

[Ianvaughan1979]

Hi
 
The following website
 
_http://www.food.thfctalk.com/test.html_ (
http://www.food.thfctalk.com/test.html) 
 
works fine in IE 7.0 , it looks as it should, but if you look at it in IE 6  
or below there are problems with it such as the middle section of the page   
is pushed down to the bottom of the page, the main navigation is not inline  
etc.
 
If you load the URL into your browser (IE 6.0) and below you will see what  
problems I have.
 
 
Can anybody help me solve these problems please my CSS file can be found  at
 
_http://www.food.thfctalk.com/style.css_ 
(http://www.food.thfctalk.com/style.css) 
 
 
I have been trying to resolve these issues for the past 10 days with no  
success, so I am asking for all your expert help, I would really appreciate it  
!
 
 
Thankyou
 
Ian
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Re: [css-d] Browser Check: Sliding CSS/JS Hybrid Drop Down Menu

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Steven Tchorzewski wrote:

> So here's my baby: 
> http://www.plattdaddy.com/rollovers/seo-friendly-drop.htm

Nice baby :-)

Would be even nicer if you could iron out the overlapping/lost text
problems that occur when some amount of font-resizing is applied in any
browser.

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[css-d] Browser Check: Sliding CSS/JS Hybrid Drop Down Menu

[Steven Tchorzewski]

Howdy Y'all,

This sliding CSS/JS hybrid drop down menu that I have been working
with various incarnations of for years now. After much fuss I have it
working in IE6+, FireFox, Opera, and NS6+ - I finally feel like it has
the real potential (in my mind) to become my "go to" menu for all
client sites (that call for a drop down navigation solution) that I
develop from now on.

So here's my baby:
http://www.plattdaddy.com/rollovers/seo-friendly-drop.htm

Please let me know if you see any bugs that I need to work out. Most
importantly I would like to find out about its display and
functionality in as many of the "oddball browsers" as I can as well as
all of the more modern Mac browsers if anyone can take a quick look to
check it out for me. I want these boys to be as compatible as possible
when the testing and fixing is finished. In the grand scheme of things
my plan is to: Make a tutorial and give the menu away to other web
masters and developers looking to find an easy solution that will fit
their needs. Just like all of the wonderful online tutorials and
working examples that I studied, dissected and learned from were
explained and given to me in the spirit of learning and sharing the
knowledge.

Thanks all.
Steve Tchorzewski
http://www.plattdaddy.com
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[css-d] browser check please, safari and some IE weirdness

[GypsiiRose Baptiste]

Hi all,
I've done some browsercam captures, and it looks like in some IE versions
and also Safari I've got a bit of weirdness in how the css displays.
The problem in IE seems to be that some versions display the green sidebar
content (on the right) pushed down quite far. (that would be the grocery bag
etc.)
In Safari, the top nav bar displays the text in RED!  Why??  (it is supposed
to be white on orange)
This is what I've noticed from the browsercam captures, but it is a little
difficult to see everything, so I'd appreciate anybody else's input who can
check it firsthand and perhaps have some suggestions!

Here is the page:
http://iskippedlunch.com/new/browser_test/index.php

Here is the CSS:
http://iskippedlunch.com/new/browser_test/styles/shfb_basic.css
http://iskippedlunch.com/new/browser_test/nav.css

Thanks!
Rose
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Re: [css-d] Browser Check: Mac especially (NTKN)

[Jono]

On 12/21/05 10:46 AM, "Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 19:25 20-12-05, Jono wrote:
> 
>>> http://inkworkswell.com/clients/testing/index.html
>> 
>> ...IE/Mac is not displaying the 191px x 250px filler image in the
>> center area.
> 
> That's odd, especially since it is the same image being linked to
> from three separate locations. The div containing the filler image
> on the left was copied en toto, renamed, and the left: classifier
> tweaked for proper offset at center and right.
> 

Appears to be working as exp3cted now in IE/Mac.  I can see all images.

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Re: [css-d] Browser Check: Mac especially (NTKN)

[Reese]

At 19:25 20-12-05, Jono wrote:

 >> http://inkworkswell.com/clients/testing/index.html
 >
 >A quick check in Firefox 1.5, Safari 2.0.2, IE 5.2.3 shows it as expected,
 >except that IE/Mac is not displaying the 191px x 250px filler image in the
 >center area.

That's odd, especially since it is the same image being linked to
from three separate locations. The div containing the filler image
on the left was copied en toto, renamed, and the left: classifier
tweaked for proper offset at center and right.

Reese
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Re: [css-d] Browser Check: Mac especially (NTKN)

[Jono]

On 12/19/05 4:13 PM, "Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://inkworkswell.com/clients/testing/index.html

A quick check in Firefox 1.5, Safari 2.0.2, IE 5.2.3 shows it as expected,
except that IE/Mac is not displaying the 191px x 250px filler image in the
center area.

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Re: [css-d] Browser Check: Mac especially (NTKN)

[David Laakso]

Reese wrote:

>http://inkworkswell.com/clients/testing/index.html
>
>If it deviates much from this:
>http://inkworkswell.com/clients/testing/images/screenshot.gif
>we would like to know about it.
>  
>
I regret it does not deviate from that.

xp_sp2, ie6.0, 1280, text size medium, users style sheet.

>Reese
>
>  
>
Best,
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[css-d] Browser Check: Mac especially (NTKN)

[Reese]

http://inkworkswell.com/clients/testing/index.html

This is a bare design, no content filled in (besides a little
lorem ipsum). We are especially asking for MacIE, Safari, Camino,
and any other Mac browser users to take a look and let us know
what you see.

All feedback is good, even if you only look and don't see any
issues (onlist or offlist, per your preference).

If it deviates much from this:
http://inkworkswell.com/clients/testing/images/screenshot.gif
we would like to know about it.

CSS files:

http://inkworkswell.com/clients/testing/base.css
http://inkworkswell.com/clients/testing/structure.css
http://inkworkswell.com/clients/testing/composition.css

Reese

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Re: [css-d] Browser Check: cssmaze.christianmontoya.com

[Jesper Brunholm]

Christian Montoya wrote:

> I just finished a page at http://cssmaze.christianmontoya.com
> 
> It uses the adjacent sibling selector as well as :hover on divs and
> z-index. It doesn't work in IE Win or Opera Win 8.5. Works fine in FF
> 1.5 and FF 1.0.7

Then It's hardly surprising that I won in Moz 1.7.12 (in second try :-) 
), nor that I can't get anywhere with my MSIE 6.something.
_I_ don't know what to expect from my Opera 8.02, but it (we) got no 
further than the second box ;-)

regards

Jesper Brunholm
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Re: [css-d] Browser Check: cssmaze.christianmontoya.com

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Christian Montoya wrote:
> I just finished a page at http://cssmaze.christianmontoya.com

I *won* in both Opera9prev1 and Firefox1.5.
Nice little practical test.

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[css-d] Browser Check: cssmaze.christianmontoya.com

[Christian Montoya]

I just finished a page at http://cssmaze.christianmontoya.com

It uses the adjacent sibling selector as well as :hover on divs and
z-index. It doesn't work in IE Win or Opera Win 8.5. Works fine in FF
1.5 and FF 1.0.7

If you are thinking, "what in the world?," it's a maze. Use your
pointing device and the divs should go transparent as you hover over
them, starting from the top left and following the arrows. That is, if
your browser supports it.

Please let me know how it performs in any/all browsers. Might be a
good test of browser CSS support. Any off-topic comments can be
directed to the blog link at the bottom of the page. Thanks!

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