Re: [css-d] maintaining site proportions across screen resolution -NOT Quite

2007-08-09 Thread Robert Van Dam
I don't have safari to test on but konqueror 3.5.5 has the same
problem until you remove position: relative from the #outer rule.
Fortunately the only effect that seems to have in firefox is to
lengthen the relative height of both #inner and its contents which is
reasonably accounted for by adjusting #inner's height.

Your original link seems to have done basically that since it looks
the same in firefox and konqueror to me.

I've seen complaints about position: relative in safari before but
this is quite a dramatic failure since the majority of the remaining
css is completely ignored (although strangely some of it is still
being used).

Rob

On 8/7/07, Ian Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Subject: Re: [css-d] maintaining site proportions across screen
  resolution -NOT Quite
 
 
 
  On Aug 7, 2007, at 8:55 PM, Ian Young wrote:
 
   Pity really as it was beginning to look quite good across various
   screen
   resolutions. Looks as if Safari PC not too keen on position:absolute
  
   See http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/index-4.html
  
   Any thoughts, folks?
  
  
   I have prepared a simplified version at:
  
   http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/height-test.html
  
   The style rules are in the header.
  
   And it seems that it is the position:relative in the outer div
   which is the
   start of the issue for Safari
 
  I don't know which display you consider 'correct'. Latest Webkit
  build (post Safari 3.03b) and Opera 9.22 display exactly the same.
  If you wrap your 'Hello moto' in  a p, then Fx 2.0, Opera, Webkit,
  Safari 3.0 and Minefield (FX 3 alpha) all agree.
 

 Thanks Philippe.

 In Safari PC, the script doesn't work at all, see
 http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/safari.jpg

 Ian
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Re: [css-d] maintaining site proportions across screen resolution-NOT Quite

2007-08-09 Thread Ian Young

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 I don't have safari to test on but konqueror 3.5.5 has the same
 problem until you remove position: relative from the #outer rule.
 Fortunately the only effect that seems to have in firefox is to
 lengthen the relative height of both #inner and its contents which is
 reasonably accounted for by adjusting #inner's height.

 Your original link seems to have done basically that since it looks
 the same in firefox and konqueror to me.

 I've seen complaints about position: relative in safari before but
 this is quite a dramatic failure since the majority of the remaining
 css is completely ignored (although strangely some of it is still
 being used).

 Rob

Thanks Rob,

Good to find out that some one else had same problem with Safari. I'll go
fettle the inner div's height and see how that turns out.
It may be academic as client is not that keen on the fluid solution in any
case.

Cheers

Ian
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Re: [css-d] maintaining site proportions across screen resolution - NOT Quite

2007-08-07 Thread Ian Young
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  Subject: [css-d] maintaining site proportions across screen resolution
 
 
  Hi list
 
  Have been developing a fluid version of site for client as comparison to
  fixed layout. It looks fine at 800 and 1024 but is out of proportion at
  1280.
 
  If I make the divs expand to 100% that means that the text in centre
  elements will break out of the parent divs at lower resolutions.
 


 I found the solution at
 http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/68961

 Very elegant  but takes a lot of tweaking where there are a bunch
 of nested
 divs with heights that need to be defined.


Well, it may be elegant enough for FF, and IE7 but IE7 adds a huge amount of
white space at the bottom and Safari PC spits it out as garbage.

Pity really as it was beginning to look quite good across various screen
resolutions. Looks as if Safari PC not too keen on position:absolute

See http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/index-4.html

Any thoughts, folks?

Ian
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Re: [css-d] maintaining site proportions across screen resolution - NOT Quite

2007-08-07 Thread Ian Young



 Well, it may be elegant enough for FF, and IE7 but IE7 adds a
 huge amount of
 white space at the bottom and Safari PC spits it out as garbage.

 Pity really as it was beginning to look quite good across various screen
 resolutions. Looks as if Safari PC not too keen on position:absolute

 See http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/index-4.html

 Any thoughts, folks?


I have prepared a simplified version at:

http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/height-test.html

The style rules are in the header.

And it seems that it is the position:relative in the outer div which is the
start of the issue for Safari

Cheers

Ian
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Re: [css-d] maintaining site proportions across screen resolution - NOT Quite

2007-08-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Aug 7, 2007, at 8:55 PM, Ian Young wrote:

 Pity really as it was beginning to look quite good across various  
 screen
 resolutions. Looks as if Safari PC not too keen on position:absolute

 See http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/index-4.html

 Any thoughts, folks?


 I have prepared a simplified version at:

 http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/height-test.html

 The style rules are in the header.

 And it seems that it is the position:relative in the outer div  
 which is the
 start of the issue for Safari

I don't know which display you consider 'correct'. Latest Webkit  
build (post Safari 3.03b) and Opera 9.22 display exactly the same.
If you wrap your 'Hello moto' in  a p, then Fx 2.0, Opera, Webkit,  
Safari 3.0 and Minefield (FX 3 alpha) all agree.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] maintaining site proportions across screen resolution -NOT Quite

2007-08-07 Thread Ian Young
 Subject: Re: [css-d] maintaining site proportions across screen
 resolution -NOT Quite



 On Aug 7, 2007, at 8:55 PM, Ian Young wrote:

  Pity really as it was beginning to look quite good across various
  screen
  resolutions. Looks as if Safari PC not too keen on position:absolute
 
  See http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/index-4.html
 
  Any thoughts, folks?
 
 
  I have prepared a simplified version at:
 
  http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/height-test.html
 
  The style rules are in the header.
 
  And it seems that it is the position:relative in the outer div
  which is the
  start of the issue for Safari

 I don't know which display you consider 'correct'. Latest Webkit
 build (post Safari 3.03b) and Opera 9.22 display exactly the same.
 If you wrap your 'Hello moto' in  a p, then Fx 2.0, Opera, Webkit,
 Safari 3.0 and Minefield (FX 3 alpha) all agree.


Thanks Philippe.

In Safari PC, the script doesn't work at all, see
http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/trossachs/safari.jpg

Ian
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