Re: [css-d] :: page review :

2009-10-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10/5/2009 06:42 AM, David Laakso wrote:
The initial specs for this proposal call for the 10-item top horizontal
navigation.
The clinker is it needs to be functional in Blackberry and iPhone as
well. Turning the nav to block for handheld is not a problem. But, seems
to me, it will present the user with something akin to leaping the
Great Wall of China inorder access the primary content.

Why not start out with a 'jump to main content' hyperlink, perhaps 
shifted off-stage but then made visible to handhelds?

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[css-d] :: page review :

2009-10-05 Thread David Laakso
I have a semi-comp layout that I would appreciate your comments and 
suggestions on.

Sorry, but  a login/password required to view.

login:
dgdemo

password:
dgdemo

uri:
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/dg/

css:
embedded

Thanks.

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Re: [css-d] :: page review :

2009-10-05 Thread David Laakso
G.Sørtun wrote:
 David Laakso wrote:
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/dg/
   

 Looks like you need a min-width on the 'topnav', and some no-wrap 
 control on its list-items.

 Otherwise not anything that's easily broken, AFAICS :-)

 regards
   Georg



As always, good advice from Norway. I will soldier away at your 
suggestions this evening. Thanks.

Aside:
The initial specs for this proposal call for the 10-item top horizontal 
navigation.
The clinker is it needs to be functional in Blackberry and iPhone as 
well. Turning the nav to block for handheld is not a problem. But, seems 
to me, it will present the user with something akin to leaping the 
Great Wall of China inorder access the primary content.


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Re: [css-d] :: page review :

2009-10-05 Thread G.Sørtun
David Laakso wrote:
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/dg/
   

Looks like you need a min-width on the 'topnav', and some no-wrap 
control on its list-items.

Otherwise not anything that's easily broken, AFAICS :-)

regards
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Re: [css-d] :: page review :

2009-10-05 Thread tedd
At 10:33 PM -0400 10/4/09, David Laakso wrote:
I have a semi-comp layout that I would appreciate your comments and
suggestions on.

Sorry, but  a login/password required to view.

login:
dgdemo

password:
dgdemo

uri:
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/dg/

css:
embedded

Thanks.

~d


Looks good to me.

Cheers,

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Re: [css-d] :: page review :

2009-10-05 Thread Theresa Mesa
Very nice.

Theresa


 At 10:33 PM -0400 10/4/09, David Laakso wrote:
 I have a semi-comp layout that I would appreciate your comments and
 suggestions on.

 Sorry, but  a login/password required to view.

 login:
 dgdemo

 password:
 dgdemo

 uri:
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/dg/

 css:
 embedded

 Thanks.

 ~d


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Re: [css-d] page review

2009-04-21 Thread david
Felix Miata wrote:
 On 2009/04/20 12:22 (GMT) Bobby Jack composed:
 
 I much prefer a little too much line-height than the terrible default of too 
 little, anyway.
 
 The default varies by font family. Some fonts have more line-height than
 David had specified. Typical of traditional web fonts is very roughly
 1.1-1.2, which is just fine when the line lengths are good, and too little
 only when line lengths are too long.

Hmm, then I don't like the very rough line heights, even with good line 
lengths. I find 1.3 most friendly to my eyes for traditional web fonts.

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Re: [css-d] page review

2009-04-20 Thread Bobby Jack

--- On Sun, 4/19/09, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote:

 Comments and suggestions appreciated.
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/op8/index.html

Time for some pedantry? :-)

* web–site should be written with a standard hyphen, not an en-dash
* Asides, such as the one after corporate image should be separated with an 
em-dash, not an en-dash
* Single-character should be hyphenated consistently
* I don't know exactly /how/ you should write dot com, but it shouldn't 
contain an en-dash

I find myself visiting this great article from time-to-time to refresh my 
understanding of the rules:

http://www.alistapart.com/stories/emen/

The fact that this might seem so trivial is a) a reflection of how accurately 
some of us wish punctuation were used on the web and b) testament to the fact 
that, other than that, the page is well designed, simple, with no glaring 
problems. Kudos on the generous line-height and the validity. I'm sure you're 
planning to change the a, b, c class names, though :)

Cheers,

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Re: [css-d] page review

2009-04-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/04/20 10:04 (GMT) Bobby Jack composed:

 --- On Sun, 4/19/09, David Laakso wrote:

 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/op8/index.html

 I find myself visiting this great article from time-to-time to refresh my 
 understanding of the rules:

 http://www.alistapart.com/stories/emen/

 Kudos on the generous line-height

Excess line-height is the main problem I found on it. Its main paragraph line
length is good, not too long, not too short, and thus there's no good reason
for non-standard line-height there. OTOH, the side paragraph line length is
quite short, making the excess line-height look badly out of place, as in a
middle school term paper.
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Re: [css-d] page review

2009-04-20 Thread Bobby Jack

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Felix Miata mrma...@ij.net wrote:

 Excess line-height is the main problem I found on it. Its
 main paragraph line length is good, not too long, not too short, and
 thus there's no good reason for non-standard line-height there. OTOH,
 the side paragraph line length is quite short, making the excess 
 line-height look badly out of place, as in a middle school term paper.

Hmmm... I see your point about the sidebar - with its (much) shorter line 
length, there's no reason for its line height (1.5) to be greater than that of 
the main copy (1.4). However, neither of these values is excessive, IMHO - I 
much prefer a little too much line-height than the terrible default of too 
little, anyway.
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Re: [css-d] page review

2009-04-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/04/20 12:22 (GMT) Bobby Jack composed:

I much prefer a little too much line-height than the terrible default of too 
little, anyway.

The default varies by font family. Some fonts have more line-height than
David had specified. Typical of traditional web fonts is very roughly
1.1-1.2, which is just fine when the line lengths are good, and too little
only when line lengths are too long.
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Re: [css-d] page review

2009-04-20 Thread David Laakso
Felix Miata wrote:

 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/op8/index.html
   

   

 Excess line-height is the main problem I found on it.
   


Reload.
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Re: [css-d] page review

2009-04-19 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/4/19 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:
 Comments and suggestions appreciated.

 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/op8/index.html


Well, I got an 404

Local time : 9.05
Denmark



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Re: [css-d] page review

2009-04-19 Thread David Laakso
Ib Jensen wrote:
 2009/4/19 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:
   
 Comments and suggestions appreciated.
 

   
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/op8/index.html
 


 Well, I got an 404
   


Online now. Thanks, Ib.
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[css-d] page review

2009-04-18 Thread David Laakso
Comments and suggestions appreciated.
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/op8/index.html
Best,
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread ~davidLaakso
Jono wrote:
 ~davidLaakso wrote:
 A quick check of this simple page 
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/ with what you are 
 running...
   
 The page is verry long in IE 5 Mac -  I suspect the one True 
 Layout for equal height columns is to blame; I didn't look in depth 
 though.  Whether that bothers you or not is up to your site's 
 stats...if there are any yet?  I'm not sure off the top of my head how 
 you'd go about fixing that...or if there is a fix for IE Mac...can't 
 remember.

 Anyhow, that's all I saw in my extremely quick check.  Other than the 
 previous comments, everything looks good in the latest Firefox, 
 Safari, and Opera over in Mac land.

Thank you, Jono. I will look into the mac/ie5.2 depth problem. This not 
a one True Layout. However, it does employ deep padding-bottom, with 
an equally deep minus margin-bottom.
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread tedd
At 9:10 PM -0400 9/13/06, ~davidLaakso wrote:
A quick check of this simple page
http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/ with what you are running 
is appreciated. Just trying to pull out any problems or issues that I
may have overlooked, or that I am not aware of.
Thanks.
~dL

David:

In Safari 2.0.4 Mac OS-X 10.4.7, the oval image is cropped on the 
right as one zooms down.

As you know, one way to fix this is by setting the dimensions of the 
image in ems.

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tedd wrote:
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/

 In Safari 2.0.4 Mac OS-X 10.4.7, the oval image is cropped on the 
 right as one zooms down.

Will happen in all browsers just by making the window narrow enough.

 As you know, one way to fix this is by setting the dimensions of the 
 image in ems.

Em-sizing won't solve the problem in this case. The layout is
'em-guided', not 'em-sized'.
Percentage-sizing might, but won't work reliable across browser-land.

Adding 'max-width: 100%' (or a little less) to the image _will_ solve it
in all supporting browsers. Just have to make sure the image can scale
properly.

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread ~davidLaakso
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
 tedd wrote:
   
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/
   

   
 In Safari 2.0.4 Mac OS-X 10.4.7, the oval image is cropped on the 
 right as one zooms down.
 

 Will happen in all browsers just by making the window narrow enough.

   
 As you know, one way to fix this is by setting the dimensions of the 
 image in ems.
 

 Em-sizing won't solve the problem in this case. The layout is
 'em-guided', not 'em-sized'.
 Percentage-sizing might, but won't work reliable across browser-land.

 Adding 'max-width: 100%' (or a little less) to the image _will_ solve it
 in all supporting browsers. Just have to make sure the image can scale
 properly.

 regards
   Georg
   
Tedd and Georg,
I've set the image with a percent max-width. Thank you for bringing 
this problem to my attention, and for the corrective fix.
Best,
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread tedd
At 5:04 PM +0200 9/14/06, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
tedd wrote:
   As you know, one way to fix this is by setting the dimensions of the
  image in ems.

Em-sizing won't solve the problem in this case. The layout is
'em-guided', not 'em-sized'.

Georg:

Oh, not so -- gifted one. Please review:  :-)

http://sperling.com/david/

My em sizing of the image fixed the zoom problem reported with my browser.

I have not checked out all the different zoom 
levels in all other browsers, but the defaults 
seem to hold together well, see:

http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=284361

Comments?

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tedd wrote:
 http://sperling.com/david/
 
 My em sizing of the image fixed the zoom problem reported with my 
 browser.

:-)

Yes, and may be well suited for an 'em-sized' layout. Use that solution
in that kind of layouts, if you like.

That particular layout is /designed/ to adjust to the available
window-width - within a range from below 600px to 60em. That's
'em-guided', *not* 'em-sized'. Run it in IE/Mac and it'll become
'em-sized' (and should work better now since David has hidden the things
IE/Mac can't handle).

Your em sizing will only make the image be chopped off earlier if
font-resizing is applied on a narrow window - for example when the
available screen-area doesn't allow the layout to grow endlessly. I have
a screen-width of 3800px available, so no problems at my end. The norm
is somewhat narrower screens, and browser windows.

So no matter what em-values you set on images, they'll normally end up
worse than with original size if font-resizing is applied, because
they'll be fighting the layout itself.

The solution is to let images adjust to the layout _when_ needed. Good
browsers solves that by letting us use regular CSS properties to resize
images to fit the layout when needed. Bad browsers and old ones can't
handle those regular CSS properties, but they are also better off with
original-sized images in that particular layout.

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread tedd
At 8:29 PM +0200 9/14/06, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
tedd wrote:
http://sperling.com/david/

My em sizing of the image fixed the zoom problem reported with my browser.

:-)

Yes, and may be well suited for an 'em-sized' layout. Use that solution
in that kind of layouts, if you like.

Forgive me, I'm just a meat and potato guy  -- 
give me a problem and I'll give you the most 
obvious solution for the most obvious need.

This strange stuff you and David get into makes my head hurt. :-)

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread francky
tedd wrote:

 [...] Georg:

Oh, not so -- gifted one. Please review:  :-)

http://sperling.com/david/

[...] but the defaults seem to hold together well, see:

http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=284361

Comments?
  

Yes: both links are 404 files... ;-)
Already cleansweeped?

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[css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-13 Thread ~davidLaakso
A quick check of this simple page 
http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/ with what you are running  
is appreciated. Just trying to pull out any problems or issues that I 
may have overlooked, or that I am not aware of.
Thanks.
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-13 Thread ~davidLaakso
david wrote:
 ~davidLaakso wrote:
 A quick check of this simple page 
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/ with what you are 
 running  is appreciated. Just trying to pull out any problems or 
 issues that I may have overlooked, or that I am not aware of.

 The column for the second poem is too narrow for the lines to run all 
 the way across, and when the lines wrap, it's hard to follow the poem. 
 I wonder if you could do a hanging indent somehow for poem lines?
I know what you mean. I was not able to make it work at all resolutions, 
zoom settings using any method. I think I'd need a different layout with 
a wider measure  for that particular poem ( or, I'll have to wake Frost 
up from the dead and have him revise his poem to fit my need :-D ).
 Also,there's a missing line break after the first line of that poem - 
 at least going by how you seem to be breaking the poem lines in the HTML.
Thanks. Corrected (I think).

 Four font enlarges were enough to make the birth--death years come out 
 of the right column. I think if you changed it to be birth - death 
 (spaces before and after dash) it would break instead of come out. But 
 that's not something I'd worry about much.
Yes, fixable.

 I think I'd like more contrast between the bio text in the left column 
 and the background.
Thanks. Done. Bumped it, but will need to check it in daylight as 
artificial light blows away color (for me).

 Using Firefox 1.5.0.4 on Linux, 15.4 1280x800 display, in a 932x775 
 viewport.

 Nice page. You always do great designs when it comes to color and 
 layout selections.
Now, if I could just get the stuff I put in layouts, to work with those 
layouts, things will be better...

Your time and thoughts are appreciated.
Best,
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-13 Thread david
~davidLaakso wrote:
 david wrote:
 ~davidLaakso wrote:
 A quick check of this simple page 
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/ with what you are 
 running  is appreciated. Just trying to pull out any problems or 
 issues that I may have overlooked, or that I am not aware of.
 The column for the second poem is too narrow for the lines to run all 
 the way across, and when the lines wrap, it's hard to follow the poem. 
 I wonder if you could do a hanging indent somehow for poem lines?
 I know what you mean. I was not able to make it work at all resolutions, 
 zoom settings using any method. I think I'd need a different layout with 
 a wider measure  for that particular poem ( or, I'll have to wake Frost 
 up from the dead and have him revise his poem to fit my need :-D ).

Well, one thought that occurred to me was to put one poem first, 
followed by the other, in a single column.

 Also,there's a missing line break after the first line of that poem - 
 at least going by how you seem to be breaking the poem lines in the HTML.
 Thanks. Corrected (I think).

Hmmm, I still see:

My long two–pointed ladder's sticking through a tree Toward heaven still,

See where Toward is? I think you need a break right after tree.

 Four font enlarges were enough to make the birth--death years come out 
 of the right column. I think if you changed it to be birth - death 
 (spaces before and after dash) it would break instead of come out. But 
 that's not something I'd worry about much.
 Yes, fixable.

Figured it would be.

 I think I'd like more contrast between the bio text in the left column 
 and the background.
 Thanks. Done. Bumped it, but will need to check it in daylight as 
 artificial light blows away color (for me).

Yes, that does it fine. It makes the bio text look sharper than it did 
before.

BTW, I've got daylight coming from both sides of me, and a 
daylight-spectrum flourescent lamp on the desk.

 Using Firefox 1.5.0.4 on Linux, 15.4 1280x800 display, in a 932x775 
 viewport.

 Nice page. You always do great designs when it comes to color and 
 layout selections.
 Now, if I could just get the stuff I put in layouts, to work with those 
 layouts, things will be better...

That's the way all layout (web or other!) is best done: with the actual 
content in it!

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-13 Thread ~davidLaakso
david wrote:
 ~davidLaakso wrote:
   
 david wrote:
 
 ~davidLaakso wrote:
   
 A quick check of this simple page 
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/ with what you are 
 running  is appreciated. Just trying to pull out any problems or 
 issues that I may have overlooked, or that I am not aware of.
 
   
 Also,there's a missing line break after the first line of that poem - 
 at least going by how you seem to be breaking the poem lines in the HTML.
   
 Thanks. Corrected (I think).
 

 Hmmm, I still see:

 My long two–pointed ladder's sticking through a tree Toward heaven still,

 See where Toward is? I think you need a break right after tree.
   
Yes, you are right. Bingo! Done. Thanks.
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-13 Thread ~davidLaakso
Don Miller wrote:
 Would it look better if the GIF white area were transparent?
 The white box doesn't really look right with the rest of the page.
 Otherwise, a good elastic design.

 Don


 | A quick check of this simple page 
 | http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/ with what you are running  
 | is appreciated. Just trying to pull out any problems or issues that I 
 | may have overlooked, or that I am not aware of.
 | Thanks.
 | ~dL
Good call, Don. Corrected. Thanks.
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-13 Thread Jono
~davidLaakso wrote:
 A quick check of this simple page 
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/ with what you are running...
   
The page is verry long in IE 5 Mac -  I suspect the one True 
Layout for equal height columns is to blame; I didn't look in depth 
though.  Whether that bothers you or not is up to your site's stats...if 
there are any yet?  I'm not sure off the top of my head how you'd go 
about fixing that...or if there is a fix for IE Mac...can't remember.

Anyhow, that's all I saw in my extremely quick check.  Other than the 
previous comments, everything looks good in the latest Firefox, Safari, 
and Opera over in Mac land.

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2005-12-29 Thread David Laakso
Kevin Cannon wrote:

On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 10:42:43PM -0500, David Laakso wrote:
  

Comments and suggestions appreciated. It has changed a little :-P . The 
first person who saw it thought it was too weird.
http://www.dlaakso.com/reservoir/v08/v08.html



I don't understand that. What's the point? Is it one of those cases of
experimenting for the sake of it?

Technically I suppose it's somewhat interesting, but visually 
typographically it's quite poor.

- Kevin
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Gosh, thanks Kevin...I needed that!
Regards,
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2005-12-29 Thread tedd
On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 10:42:43PM -0500, David Laakso wrote:
  Comments and suggestions appreciated. It has changed a little :-P . The
  first person who saw it thought it was too weird.
  http://www.dlaakso.com/reservoir/v08/v08.html

I don't understand that. What's the point? Is it one of those cases of
experimenting for the sake of it?

Technically I suppose it's somewhat interesting, but visually 
typographically it's quite poor.

- Kevin

You are free to do better, let's see it.

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2005-12-29 Thread tedd
Comments and suggestions appreciated. It has changed a little :-P . The
first person who saw it thought it was too weird.
http://www.dlaakso.com/reservoir/v08/v08.html
Thanks,
~davidLaakso

david:

That's more than a paper-bag you just programmed out of (private joke).

I never saw --

meta http-equiv=refresh content=3; url=v08b.html /

-- used before.

If someone had asked me to produce the same effect, it would have 
taken me much more programming than just one line!

And, you're treatment of visual and typographical elements is 
impressively splendid, as usual.

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2005-12-29 Thread David Laakso
tedd wrote:

 Comments and suggestions appreciated. It has changed a little :-P . The
 first person who saw it thought it was too weird.
 http://www.dlaakso.com/reservoir/v08/v08.html
 Thanks,
 ~davidLaakso


 That's more than a paper-bag you just programmed out of (private joke).
 meta http-equiv=refresh content=3; url=v08b.html /
 -- used before.
 If someone had asked me to produce the same effect, it would have 
 taken me much more programming than just one line!
 And, you're treatment of visual and typographical elements is 
 impressively splendid, as usual.
 tedd

Tedd,
The meta attribute to automatically move the reader from one page to 
another is older than me. And I am older than God.
August Rosenberger, a typecutter for the Stempel foundry, cut the early 
the early types of Hermann Zapf, including the original foundry version 
of Palatino [1].
~davidLaakso


[1] 'A Short History of the Printed Word'
--Warren Chappell
--Robert Bringhurst
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2005-12-29 Thread Kevin Cannon
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 09:32:40AM -0500, David Laakso wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 10:42:43PM -0500, David Laakso wrote:
 Comments and suggestions appreciated. It has changed a little :-P . The 
 first person who saw it thought it was too weird.
 http://www.dlaakso.com/reservoir/v08/v08.html

 I don't understand that. What's the point? Is it one of those cases of
 experimenting for the sake of it?

 Technically I suppose it's somewhat interesting, but visually 
 typographically it's quite poor.

 Gosh, thanks Kevin...I needed that!

No offence meant. 
You asked for feedback though, so I gave you my honest opinion.

I'd hope you'd appreciate that.

- Kevin
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2005-12-29 Thread {tonyFelice}

 The meta attribute to automatically move the reader from one page to
another is older than me.

True, but your case, I think it should be one second longer ;-)
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second 

Happy New Year, and thank you all for welcoming me to the list.
Tony

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2005-12-29 Thread Ingo Chao
I apologize, my post was not meant offensive in any sense.

Happy new year

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[css-d] page review :: ~dL

2005-12-28 Thread David Laakso
Comments and suggestions appreciated. It has changed a little :-P . The 
first person who saw it thought it was too weird.
http://www.dlaakso.com/reservoir/v08/v08.html
Thanks,
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2005-12-28 Thread Richard Brown
Hi David

On 29 Dec 2005, at 03:42, David Laakso wrote:

 Comments and suggestions appreciated. It has changed a little :-P . The
 first person who saw it thought it was too weird.
Totally off-beat but simply brilliant. You have a remarkable eye.

HaPpy nEw yeaR to you and eVerYone eLse.

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