Re: [css-d] Borders on link in focus

2005-09-08 Thread Uwe Kaiser

On 08.09.2005 14:34, Jørgen Farum Jensen wrote:

I'm concerned with the small dotted border around a link element in focus.

I wish to format the link with the :focus pseudo class, and the 
browser-generated border tends to destroy the design effect I want.


Is there any way to suppress this effect?



We have had this topic of discussion about four weeks ago.
< http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/61474 >

For MSIE, there is another way to style the dotted border,
but I just can't remember how.



Regards,

Uwe Kaiser


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Re: [css-d] Borders on link in focus

2005-09-08 Thread Jørgen Farum Jensen

Christian Heilmann wrote:

I'm concerned with the small dotted border around a link element in focus.




No, except for JavaScript, and that defeats is purpose. The "ugly
dotted borders" do help a lot of users.



Thanks for the answers.

My point was that I wanted to provide a clearer indication of the
element in focus that I feel the dotted borders provide. I have
no wish to use the Javascript method, since it detracts from the
accessibility of the web page.

Best regards
Jørgen Farum Jensen
www.webdesign101.dk


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Re: [css-d] Borders on link in focus

2005-09-08 Thread Anders Ringqvist
That is out of scope for you to play with, it 'belongs' to the UA. It´s 
a 'feature' most UA vendors have choosen to implement. You can use 
JavaScript to blur-on-focus but then the element is not in focus and the 
user can´t activate it with keyboard for example. Sorry, cant have the 
cake and eat it at the same time. If design is more important then 
usability. Use the JavaScript solution. If it´s the other way around 
dont do anything.


Probably it´s only you who is concerned about it cause you are 'home 
blind' =) Your users will not 'see' it the same way you 'see' it. They 
may even fancy it.


Discussions about this subject often tend to be like the 
'should-I-style-form-controls-or-not'-discussions so don´t be surprised 
if this thread will turn into Jihad soon =)))


Regards,
Anders Ringqvist

Jørgen Farum Jensen wrote:


I'm concerned with the small dotted border around a link element in focus.

I wish to format the link with the :focus pseudo class, and the 
browser-generated border tends to destroy the design effect I want.


Is there any way to suppress this effect?

Best regards
Jørgen Farum Jensen
http://www.webdesign101.dk

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Re: [css-d] Borders on link in focus

2005-09-08 Thread Christian Heilmann
> I'm concerned with the small dotted border around a link element in focus.
> 
> I wish to format the link with the :focus pseudo class, and the
> browser-generated border tends to destroy the design effect I want.
> 
> Is there any way to suppress this effect?

No, except for JavaScript, and that defeats is purpose. The "ugly
dotted borders" do help a lot of users.

The archives have a say on that, too: 
http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/33258
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