Re: [css-d] jumpy page/won't scroll down in IE

2007-10-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peggy Coats wrote:
 I'm having a problem on this site in IE : 
 http://www.ripeforretirement.com/

 For some reason, I can't scroll down to the bottom of the page -- it 
 just kind of jumps around when attempting to do so.   I have a 
 feeling it might be related to the javascript for the font 
 enlargement, but not really sure.

The 'js/equalcolumns.js' is bugging IE/win ... it can't get past its
artificial bottom, and the footer is below.
Kill the script and IE/win will do fine, or check out the conditions
the script is supposed to work under and adjust your layout to it.

What do you need that script for? No visual columns to take care of on
that page, but you may have other reasons.

IE/win already has a 'hasLayout' trigger that keeps the center-column in
check width-wise, and other browsers will do fine with a suitable 'block
formatting'[1] trigger.

#outerWrapper #contentWrapper #content {
display: table-cell;
}
...seems to work fine, but have only checked it in Opera and Firefox on
windows.


You can of course also give that element the correct margin...
#outerWrapper #contentWrapper #content {
margin: 0 200px 0 230px;
}
...in which case neither 'hasLayout', 'block formatting' or
'equalcolumns script' seems to be necessary in any browser.


You just have to remember that IE6 doesn't respect any dimensions, and
at least kill its 'em font-resizing bug'[2] before anyone starts
resizing text in that browser.
The addition of
html {font-size: 100%;}
...will do.


regards
Georg

[1]http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#block-formatting
[2]http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_13.html
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Re: [css-d] jumpy page/won't scroll down in IE

2007-10-14 Thread Peggy Coats
On 10/14/07, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peggy Coats wrote:
  I'm having a problem on this site in IE :
  http://www.ripeforretirement.com/

  For some reason, I can't scroll down to the bottom of the page -- it
  just kind of jumps around when attempting to do so.   I have a
  feeling it might be related to the javascript for the font
  enlargement, but not really sure.

 The 'js/equalcolumns.js' is bugging IE/win ... it can't get past its
 artificial bottom, and the footer is below.
 Kill the script and IE/win will do fine, or check out the conditions
 the script is supposed to work under and adjust your layout to it.


 regards
 Georg


Thanks -- removing the equalcolumns.js did the trick.  I had that in
there originally and then decided not to use the js because the
columns were working fine w/o, but neglected to remove it from the
pages.

Peg
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Re: [css-d] jumpy page/won't scroll down in IE

2007-10-14 Thread David Hucklesby
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:07:10 -0700, Peggy Coats wrote:
 I'm having a problem on this site in IE :   http://www.ripeforretirement.com/ 
 Here is
 the CSS: http://www.ripeforretirement.com/css/ripe.css

 For some reason, I can't scroll down to the bottom of the page -- it just 
 kind of
 jumps around when attempting to do so.   I have a feeling it might be 
 related to the
 javascript for the font enlargement, but not really sure.  No one seems to be
 experiencing the problem in other browsers.

 Anybody have any ideas?


I am not seeing any scrolling problem this end, Peggy. Can you tell us 
which browser version and platform you are using? I tried IE6 and IE7
here on Windows xp pro.

There does seem to be a layout problem in IE though. Here's a screen
shot:

  http://webwiz.robinshosting.com/temp/images/ripe-ie7.png

(Sorry about the 8-bit colors, though. Your actual page looks much nicer.)

Cordially,
David
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Re: [css-d] jumpy page/won't scroll down in IE

2007-10-14 Thread Peggy Coats
On 10/14/07, David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:07:10 -0700, Peggy Coats wrote:
  I'm having a problem on this site in IE :   
  http://www.ripeforretirement.com/ Here is
  the CSS: http://www.ripeforretirement.com/css/ripe.css
 
  For some reason, I can't scroll down to the bottom of the page -- it just 
  kind of
  jumps around when attempting to do so.   I have a feeling it might be 
  related to the
  javascript for the font enlargement, but not really sure.  No one seems to 
  be
  experiencing the problem in other browsers.
 
  Anybody have any ideas?
 

 I am not seeing any scrolling problem this end, Peggy. Can you tell us
 which browser version and platform you are using? I tried IE6 and IE7
 here on Windows xp pro.

 There does seem to be a layout problem in IE though. Here's a screen
 shot:

   http://webwiz.robinshosting.com/temp/images/ripe-ie7.png

 (Sorry about the 8-bit colors, though. Your actual page looks much nicer.)

 Cordially,
 David
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HI David,

I got the jumping/no-scroll problem fixed by elminating a javascript
call.  It was only an issue in IE 6 and IE 7.

thanks for the screenshot -- it looks like you've enlarged the font
size (I hope it's not defaulting to that!)  I know that on the largest
font increase the text will sometimes hide behind the nav bar (as it
appears to be doing here).  Not sure how to get around that!

Peg
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Re: [css-d] jumpy page/won't scroll down in IE

2007-10-14 Thread Walt F. Schaefer

HI David,

I got the jumping/no-scroll problem fixed by elminating a javascript call.
It was only an issue in IE 6 and IE 7.

thanks for the screenshot -- it looks like you've enlarged the font size (I
hope it's not defaulting to that!)  I know that on the largest font increase
the text will sometimes hide behind the nav bar (as it appears to be doing
here).  Not sure how to get around that!

Peg
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I would change this:

#menu dt {
width: 11em;

To this:

#menu dt {
width: 140px;

That should force your top-level menu items to expand vertically by breaking
the lines rather than expanding the box horizontally.

Walt


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Re: [css-d] jumpy page/won't scroll down in IE

2007-10-14 Thread David Hucklesby
 On 10/14/07, David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:07:10 -0700, Peggy Coats wrote:
 I'm having a problem on this site in IE :   
 http://www.ripeforretirement.com/ Here
 is the CSS: http://www.ripeforretirement.com/css/ripe.css


[...]
 There does seem to be a layout problem in IE though. Here's a screen shot:

 http://webwiz.robinshosting.com/temp/images/ripe-ie7.png


[...]
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:55:43 -0700, Peggy Coats wrote: 

 I got the jumping/no-scroll problem fixed by elminating a javascript
 call.  It was only an issue in IE 6 and IE 7.


That's good news. Perhaps you had fixed it by the time I looked at it.

 thanks for the screenshot -- it looks like you've enlarged the font
 size (I hope it's not defaulting to that!)   ...


I'm sorry to say that it is the default medium size in IE on my machine.
Many, if not most laptops that have screens with more than a thousand
pixels height are set to 120 DPI. To compensate for the smaller text size
that results, both IE and Opera increase em sizes by 25%.

High-definition laptops seem to be the new black.  ;)

Cordially,
David
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