[CTRL] Fwd: Bin Laden's Whereabouts are Known
---BeginMessage--- 'We Know Where Bin Laden Is Hiding', Says Alliance Ananova Wednesday October 3, 2001 7:07 PM The anti-Taliban alliance in Afghanistan claims it knows where Osama bin Laden is hiding. The Northern Alliance also says it expects US attacks to start within days. The comments came after US Defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld said US Intelligence thinks it may know where bin Laden is hiding. Northern alliance spokesman Dr Abdullah, who uses only one name, says representatives of the US and the alliance have been having regular and daily meetings outside Afghanistan. They have discussed all aspects of co-operation in their latest meetings and the results were good, Abdullah said. Abdullah says the alliance knows exactly where bin Laden is hiding but he refuses to say where. He also says he thinks a US-led attack will take place in a matter of days. In addition to refugees fleeing Taliban-controlled areas, Abdullah reports large-scale defections from Taliban forces to the northern alliance. With regard to the fate of the Afghan capital, Kabul, Abdullah reiterated earlier opposition claims that taking the city is not their primary goal. He says he believes a popular uprising in the city might take place against the ruling Taliban. However, he indicates he expects the Taliban to be overthrown and says when the northern alliance takes control of Afghanistan it intends to try the Taliban for war crimes. ---End Message---
[CTRL] HERE'S THE PROOF
http://mirror.icnetwork.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=11341560method =full HERE'S THE PROOF Oct 3 2001 By Oonagh Blackman THE first proof of Osama bin Laden's involvement in the terror attacks on America was revealed yesterday. Investigators have discovered that three of the suicide hijackers returned a $15,000 surplus from the estimated $500,000 attack fund to a bin Laden contact's account in Dubai just 48 hours before the atrocities. They were obeying the orders of bin Laden, who is said to be penny-pinching despite his multi-million pound fortune. Government officials in the United Arab Emirates in the Gulf have uncovered bank accounts in Dubai linked to a man described as a key bin Laden money man. The man arrived in the UAE at the end of June and left for Pakistan on September 11, the day the terrorists struck New York and Washington. On September 9 the man, who has not been named by the UAE authorities, received three separate wire transfers from America totalling $15,000. UAE officials said the cash was left over from planning the US atrocities and was returned to finance new attacks. Sources said one $5,000 payment was sent by Marwan al-Shehhi, one of the hijackers on United Airlines Flight 175 that crashed into the World Trade Center south tower. The other two, both of $5,000 each, were sent by ringleader Mohamed Atta and Waleed M Alshehri, who were on American Airlines Flight 11 that hit the WTC north tower. A senior source close to the investigation yesterday described it as shocking...that at least three of the hijackers were tying up loose ends like surplus cash only 48 hours before they went out to kill thousands of innocent people. But their actions have blown up in their faces because they have opened up important new leads in the hunt to disrupt bin Laden's financial empire. It has taken us closer to the money men who are bankrolling evil. The payments to the bin Laden money man, believed to be a Saudi passport holder, are another crucial piece of the jigsaw linking bin Laden to the US attacks. And they have opened up new leads in the investigation into the complex finances of the terrorist leader's Al Qaeda organisation. Investigators believe a money trail linking bin Laden to the US attacks was orchestrated by one his most trusted aides. Cash to fund the hijackings flowed between banks in at least three countries in the run-up to the atrocities. Sheikh Saeed, also known as Mustafa Mohamed Ahmad, was identified as a key financial manager for bin Laden, bankrolling terrorists preparing for the September 11 suicide attacks on New York and Washington. The base for a number of bank accounts controlled by Ahmad is thought to be Dubai. The United Arab Emirates central bank has now frozen all of Ahmad's accounts and accounts linked to 25 other people and organisations identified by US Treasury officials as al-Qaeda suspects. Another 13 bank accounts, holding £900,000, have been frozen in the German cities of Munich and Hamburg. Investigators traced money transfers to Florida on September 8 and 9, from an account under Ahmad's name in Dubai. The funds were paid to Mohamed Atta, the ringleader of the 19 hijackers. Investigators have also identified a further transfer of cash from a bank account in Florida, where Atta stayed, to Dubai before September 11. Ahmad did the financial fixing for several hijackers to live in Florida and pay for flying lessons. A UAE government minister disclosed that a man with a Saudi Arabian passport - suspected to be Ahmad - left the UAE for Pakistan on the day of the US attacks. The FBI is chasing up to 100,000 leads as it tries to nail down the international cash flow. A Muslim terrorist said to have confessed to planning to blow up the US Embassy in Paris on the orders of bin Laden has denied any involvement. Lawyers for Franco-Algerian Djamel Beghal, who was extradited to France from Dubai on Monday, said yesterday: He has contested being commissioned by anybody to organise, prepare and carry out terrorist acts, notably against US interests in Paris. They added that earlier statements by Beghal linking him with bin Laden were made in indeterminate circumstances in Dubai. Mirror.co.uk - News - All News.url
[CTRL] Invisible Man
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TRENDS: Hunting The Faceless Man
Middle East News Online
By Hichem Karoui*
Posted Tuesday October 2, 2001 - 11:03:10 AM EDT
While Mr. William Burns, deputy Secretary of State is expected in
several Mideast capitals, in an effort to get support for a coalition
against terrorism, a rumor is running about a list of 27 Lebanese
wanted by the FBI that might have been sent lately to Beirut.
Among those persons suspected of having links to Al-Qaida, we find
Imad Mughniyah, Abu Mohjen (Ahmed Abd al-Karim al-Saadi), Bassam
Ahmad Kanj (alias Abu A'isha), Munir Maqdah...etc.
A few days after the September 11 attacks on America, an article of
Jane's Security, reported that Imad Mughniyah, head of the special
overseas operations for Hizbullah, could have been the brain behind
the attacks, along with the Egyptian Ayman Al Zawahiri, and possibly
the logistical and financial support of the Iraqi Intelligence
Service (SSO). The report did not hide that its main source of
information was Aman, Israeli military intelligence service.
However, different rumors run about Mughniyah on whose head the
Americans have put a $2million reward. First, he is said to have
undergone extensive plastic surgery that has altered his appearance.
If this rumor reveals to be true, he is not to be caught next week;
and if his identity remains hidden, he could be anywhere. So, why
look after him in Lebanon? According to the Jane's report, in March
1984 Mughniyah kidnapped the head of the CIA station in Beirut,
William Buckley, which triggered what later became known as
'Irangate', when the Americans tried to exchange Buckley (and others)
with arms for Iran.
A year later, a combined CIA/Mossad operation killed seventy-five
people, when a car bomb exploded at the entrance of the house of
Hizbullah spiritual leader, Sheik Mohammed Hussein Fathlallah. Among
the victims, was the brother of Mughniyah.
Other sources mention Mughniyah as operating on behalf of Iranian
intelligence, and as responsible of the suicide bombing attacks on
the US embassy and the Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983. In
addition, he is said to have masterminded the 1985 hijacking of a TWA
airliner to Beirut and the bombing of the Israeli embassy in
Argentina. Some reports say that Mughniyah continued to operate
several training camps in the Beqaa valley- controlled by the Syrians
- though he is believed to reside in Iran most of the time.
Last year, one of Bin Laden's top aides who was indicted for
involvement in the 1998 bombings of the American embassies in Kenya
and Tanzania, Ali A. Mohamed, testified before a Manhattan court that
he had been in charge of making security arrangements for a meeting
between Bin Laden and Mughniyah in Sudan during the early 1990s to
discuss ways of opposing American hegemony in the Middle East.
In June 1996, it is said also that Iran's Ministry of Information and
Security hosted a meeting in Teheran that included Mughniyah and a
senior aide to Bin Laden. Since then, operatives from both groups met
several times. However, so far these rumors have not been confirmed,
neither have been others about several secret trips to Germany in
recent years, allegedly made by Mughniyah, suggesting that he may
have met with perpetrators of the September 11 attacks.
It is not easy to make evidence about such information, because
much of it could be manipulated by the Israeli intelligence for which
the opportunity of hitting two birds with a single stone is too
attractive not to seize. An example is quite significant: it is
reported that prior to the establishment of Hizbullah in the early
1980s, Mughniyah served as one of Yasser Arafat's bodyguards.
Although only Arafat's services could deny or confirm this rumor, it
is not really of much importance for the current investigations.
However, it is obvious that the Israelis are interested in mixing up
the past and the present, the false and the truth, the dark and the
clear, in order to direct suspicion towards the Palestinians and thus
to discredit Arafat as a man of peace in the eyes of millions of
Americans.
Thus, if some kind of link could be found between Mughniyah and
Arafat himself, - were it even a phantasm! - it is undoubtedly
helpful to Sharon.
Meanwhile, the hunt for Mughniyah sounds like the hunt for George
Orwell's Invisible Man! * Exclusive to PalestineChronicle.com, Middle
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[CTRL] Larry Flynt and Irving Moskowitz Holy Land to be Temple of Gambling?
Hawaiian Gardens Casino in Hawaiian Gardens Opened in 1997. A group of rabbis and Middle East peace activists charge that money from the casino and a bingo parlor is used to by its owner, Dr. Irving Moskowitz, to build new Jewish settlements in Arab neighborhoods of East Jerusalem. To Those Researchers who want the truth of matter check out further Larry Silverstein with the 99 year lease on World Trade Center... Saba See the connections between front man Larry Flynt who gives oh so much of his smut money to the ADL - and the connection between Dr. Irving Moskowitz.Lovely people - but who fronts for what? Tell me will they soon be casting lots for Christ's robes once again - symbolically, of course - and will Israel be a big tourist attraction - awaiting the big Bang. This is the year of the Millennium and every nut in the country is being manipulated by a secret hand? Words of Meyer Lansky - get John F. Kennedy and find some nut to do it? For the game is afoot. Saba Stand Up For California! Home Page | About Us | You Can Help | What's New Raising the Ante After a decade of scandals and closures, several area card clubs plan expansions or renovations and two new ones will be built. But cities aren't counting on revenue windfalls. by Hugo Martin Los Angeles Times 1999 June 11, Page B-2 After years of scandals and dwindling revenues, card club owners in Los Angeles County are betting on better days ahead by building two casinos and expanding and renovating several existing clubs. Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt is taking the biggest gamble: He is investing $30 million in a new casino in Gardena, where five casinos have closed since the early 1980s because of financial problems. In Cudahy, the owners of an Orange County bail bond business are building what a representative calls the county's first Latino-themed card club. Meanwhile, club owners in Commerce, Hawaiian Gardens, Huntington Park and Bell Gardens are planning expensive expansion and renovation projects to revive flagging business. The new clubs and expansions will add nearly 260 card tables, increase the number of tables in the county by more than a third, to 980. In previous years, municipal officials--who depend on casino revenues for up to 50% of their city budgets--might have welcomed these developments effusively and counted on extra revenues. But history has taught them caution. Because gambling revenues have become so unreliable, these officials say, they are trying to diversify their cities' economies. With the money we get from the card club, we are looking to try to attract new businesses and retain the businesses we have in town, said Hawaiian Gardens Mayor Pro Tem Leonard Chaidez. The history of casinos in the county has been a sad, sordid tale. Half a dozen clubs have closed in the last decade because of mismanagement, corruption and what some experts say is over-saturation. Tax revenues from the seven existing clubs have dropped by as much as a third since 1992, according to a survey of city records. The Commerce Club Casino, the largest card club in the county, with 220 tables, is the only casino whose contributions to city coffers have not flagged. The closures and dwindling revenues have created huge headaches for city officials, who have relied on casino money to fatten meager budgets in working-class communities with diminished tax bases. Nevertheless, encouraged by the strong economy, club owners insist that profitable days are ahead. They believe that the public is increasingly tolerant of gambling, as demonstrated by overwhelming voter support in November for Proposition 5 , the measure to expand casino gambling on Indian reservations. The market will be sufficient for all of us, said Ron Sarabi, general manager of the Hawaiian Gardens Casino, who is planning to expand from six card tables to 150 this summer. The state has imposed a moratorium on new casino licenses until 2001, but the moratorium does not prohibit expansion of existing casinos. (The two new clubs will operate under the existing licenses of defunct casinos.) Although gambling experts say that the demand for casinos is limited, club owners insist that they can expand the market by reaching out to new gamblers through improved marketing and specialized services. The Mehr family, which operates one of the largest bail bond companies in Orange County, is building the Club Caribe Casino in the square-mile city of Cudahy. The club is licensed for only eight tables, but the family believes it can compete with the larger casinos by targeting the region's huge Latino population. Club Caribe will have bilingual dealers and a kitchen that serves Latin American food. The club will be heavily advertised in Spanish-language newspapers, television and radio, said Jerry Nicholson, an attorney for the Mehr family. We are going for a market that is untapped, he said. Club Caribe will take over the gambling license of the Silver Saddle
[CTRL] Fwd: Re: !b_a_Act: Fwd: Israelis warned 2 hou...False
-Caveat Lector- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 19:10:03 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: !b_a_Act: Fwd: Israelis warned 2 hou...False --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marc Ash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am the Editor of TruthOut.com. I just contacted Alex Diamandis of Odigo. Mr, Diamandis stated categorically that he had no information that any Odigo employee had any prior knowledge of the attacks. He characterized the NewFactor article's interpretation of his remarks as inaccurate. I contacted NewsFactor and they had no comment. The Los Angeles times did report that Israeli intelligence reported a significant threat to US intelligence : http://www.truthout.com/0620.Mossad.Warning.htm Marc Ash, Editor - t r u t h o u t mailto:admin@t... --- Melli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 23:12:37 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Melli) Subject: Israelis warned 2 hours before WTC attacked Organization: http://groups.google.com/ To: undisclosed-recipients:; See: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nf/20010927/tc/13820_1.html = http://www.house.gov/international_relations/105th/ap/wsap212982.htm http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mo ssa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml? xml=/news/2001/09/26/wdrug26.xml http://menewsline.com/stories/2001/september/09_25_6.html http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=SIEGE-COLLEGES-09-27- 01cat=AN __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com -- PEACE! Bay_Area_Activist list info: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bay_area_activist Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bay_area_activist/messages Calendar: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bay_area_activist/calendar List-Unsubscribe: mailto:bay_area_activist-unsubscribe@y... List-Subscribe: mailto:bay_area_activist-subscribe@y... WHEN SPIDERS UNITE, THEY CAN TIE DOWN A LION -- Ethiopian Proverb --- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml --- -- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- End forwarded message --- = http://www.house.gov/international_relations/105th/ap/wsap212982.htm http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/26/wdrug26.xml http://menewsline.com/stories/2001/september/09_25_6.html http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=SIEGE-COLLEGES-09-27-01cat=AN __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Biometrics on the rise
-Caveat Lector- http://news.openflows.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/19/1333240 Biometrics on the rise posted Wednesday September 19, @04:30AM NYT, September 19, 2001 Exploring Technology to Protect Passengers With Fingerprint or Retina Scans By BARNABY J. FEDER Governments and airlines seeking to reduce the threat of airplane hijackings by terrorists have a wide range of security technologies to choose from. Much of the spotlight will be on biometrics systems, which identify travelers by fingerprints, the patterns in their retinas, their voices or other individual characteristics. Privacy concerns have slowed the development of such technology, but investors apparently expect that to change: the stocks of the few publicly traded biometrics companies soared Monday while most of the stock market declined. Our phone systems have been jammed since last Tuesday, said Joseph Atick, the chairman and chief executive of Visionics, which markets FaceIt, a system that profiles individuals based on 80 facial structures like distance between the eyes, cheekbone formation and the width of the nose bridge. In addition to calls from investors, Visionics has been receiving about 100 calls a day from potential customers, some as far away as Thailand, Mr. Atick said. Equipment suppliers and the consultants who meld security devices into multimillion-dollar systems say airports may also install improved versions of other types of security products, including such widely used equipment as closed circuit television systems and X-ray machines. There is no single perfect technology, said Ralph S. Sheridan, the chief executive of American Science and Engineering, a vendor of X-ray machines that scrutinize luggage, trucks and other containers. We have to throw up a gantlet. Investors clearly expect just such a broad investment, even though there is no information to suggest that explosives in luggage played any role in last week's disaster. American Science's shares closed yesterday at $9, up 57 percent this week. InVision Technologies, which has developed explosives detection equipment with support from the Federal Aviation Administration, was the leading gainer among all Nasdaq stocks on Monday, rising $5.14 to $8.25, before retreating yesterday to $7.35. The equipment now used to scan carry-on luggage and passengers in American airports costs roughly one-third as much as the more sophisticated systems that were developed for screening entry into high- security buildings, monitoring prisons or searching for drugs at immigration stations, Mr. Sheridan said. The only airport in which American Science's top systems are used to search luggage before it goes on aircraft is in Cairo, Mr. Sheridan said. Such systems not only detect plastic bombs but, when applied to passengers or crew members, can locate hazards like a plastic knife taped to a traveler's body. The leading advanced bomb detection system in American airports is InVision, a variation on the familiar CAT scanner used in hospitals, which provides clear images of a wide range of materials. InVision's system has been bought by the Federal Aviation Agency to examine selected checked baggage at more than 100 airports, but it was not designed to look for weapons on humans. Nor is the system fast enough to check carry-on bags as passengers enter the departure area. There may be less pressure to examine every bag, though, if biometrics progress to the point where security workers can be confident they know the identity of every traveler. This would require both equipment and a huge amount of data management. The biometrics options favored by the International Air Transport Association call for scanning a traveler's eyes, said William Gaillard, a spokesman for the trade group, which is based in Geneva. Eye scans look at either the distinctive patterns in the blood vessels of the retina at the back of the the eye or the unique features of the colored part of the eye, the iris. The association thinks eye-scanning is the most internationally acceptable form of biometrics, Mr. Gaillard said. A Muslim woman can be identified, for example, without touching her or asking her to drop her facial veil. Identix, which is based in Los Gatos, Calif., thinks fingerprinting will be favored because it is already integrated into a wide range of devices that control access to computers and high-security rooms. The facial structure approach used by Visionics may have the advantage, though, of being more easily linked to a database of potential terrorists. Video footage from any source could provide the data needed to create a profile that cameras at an airport could check for matches. The company says just 20 of the 80 relationships measured are enough to identify an individual with high probability, despite any effort to disguise the identity through plastic surgery, wigs or other methods. Installing such equipment at major airports would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars,
Re: [CTRL] test only
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[CTRL] Fwd: The Jerusalem Post Newspaper : Online News From Israel - Features Article
At the feet of the Twin Towers, actually the World Trade Center, rests the bodies of yet an undetermined number of people - and underneath further down into the tunnels beneath is billions of dollars of pure gold - the FBI used to brag about this field of gold some two football fields long and wide? So much for the Ever Vigilant Eye on the back of the dollar bill This man Larry Silverstein - in this item leaves Israel in disgust - for this man was working to get control of the World Trade Center and got the 99 year lease while all the time he was reported to be in Israel, a New Yorker - failed to mention his gambling temples about and his locations in Florida and about ...and all that arab gold at the bottom, of the world trade center? Well Silverstein left Israel in disgustbut suddenly his old friend Sharon manipulates a mini war - Ehud Barak is diposed and Sharon, the fat slob as the Palestinians call him, is in place End result of all this garbage and see the connections - someone did not get what they wanted for Silverstein had big dreams and now will all be at the expense of the American people? Do you think these bastards give a good god damn about those bodies at the bottom of the rubbish at this Center? The next day Silverstein, the casino owner, the great humanitarian (???) for believe me that guy has probably shelled a lot of big bucks to pull this off - do you think this man cares - for the next day he had plans on the drawing board to build a brand new World Trade Center only this time, four buildings as he always wanted. Not noticed by many, but by me in particular - noted those planes hit at the Fitzgerald level and I thought of the Fitzgerald curse and John Fitzgerald Kennedy for you know, Sirhan Sirhan, the little Jordanian who was brought over here by Christian Zionists - a Church - well he kept calling Robert Francis Kennedy, Robert Fitzgerald Kennedyshades of King Og. Note the Israelis wanted no part of this man - he left Israel in disgust..Rabbis had protested this man's actions too. But as Sharon said, he had the matches the Arabs had the Oil - but these two bastards, Silverstein and Dr. Irvining Moskowitz did they set it off for they are prepared now for American to lay themselves doon and dee for whom and for what? Remember little Sirhan on May 18 he had this one particular diary entry - was not this the one that said RFK MUST DIE, Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy must die.. Maybe this name is a trigger to some for Remember John Fitzgerald Kennedy Sr. and John Fitzgerald Kennedy Jr., and the USS Liberty, always. What was it John Edgar Hoover called the communists - Masters of Deceit? Israel has big guns and a big mouth - but it was American which was hit - for there is a Contract on America and if this chicken crap Congress and Senate do not wake up to the truth - well money talks? Right? These bastards will destroy the State of Israel to take it over - but that seems to be part of the Master Plan as the Doomsdayers go about their merry way all under a CONTROL.i.e. Littleton? And do not forget the Fiery Flying Serpent flag, of one David Kore(sh)...messengers from hell. Saba ---BeginMessage--- http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/05/18/Features/Features.6890.html ---End Message---
[CTRL] bin Laden family, Bush Sr. will profit Big $$$$ from attack Afghanis
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[CTRL] Fwd: The War On Some Terrorists
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[CTRL] Ha'aretz: Odigo says workers warned of WTC attack
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Re: [CTRL] CT: Often abused, laws called `poisonous' [Secret evidence bill ra...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/01/2001 10:38:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They say the bill would permit someone to be held indefinitely if the attorney general has reason to believe that the suspect poses a threat, and that determination would not be subject to judicial review. Such powers would be unprecedented in modern times, they say. Gee, just like under Joe Stalin. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is this the Clinton/Bush legacy?
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[CTRL] The Seeds of Terror Thrive in Poor Ground
Note: forwarded message attached. = http://www.house.gov/international_relations/105th/ap/wsap212982.htm http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/26/wdrug26.xml http://menewsline.com/stories/2001/september/09_25_6.html http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=SIEGE-COLLEGES-09-27-01cat=AN __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ---BeginMessage--- http://chicagotribune.com/ Monday October 1 , 2001 Published on Sunday, September 30, 2001 in the Chicago Tribune The Seeds of Terror Thrive in Poor Ground by RC Longworth Somewhere between Casablanca and Rawalpindi, in the vast arc defined by poverty and Islam, a young man will leave his village and family today and go to the big city, propelled by despair and drawn by the promise of the good life that he's seen in American videos on the village television set. Semieducated and semiliterate, equipped only to beg in four languages, he will join swarms of other young men in unemployment, idleness and growing bitterness. Sooner or later his wasted mind will make contact with the hateful sermons of some extremist imam and he will end up in a remote, secret desert camp, a terrorist in training. This is the sea from which Osama bin Laden and other terrorist leaders pull recruits like fish into their global campaigns. It is a great swath of the world that has been passed over by the global economy, which is no more than a rumor for most of the millions who live there. For these have-nots, the inequalities of the global economy have not only fueled the rage that led to the attacks of this black September, but also created the means and targets for future attacks, and the tools to carry them out. Nothing--no complaint against corporations or capitalism--justifies the slaughter of innocent civilians at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But the West and especially the United States have to understand the alienation that the American-led rush toward globalization has caused in these left-behind regions of the world. In a globalized world with instant communications, it is impossible to have excessive opulence alongside grinding poverty without something, sometime, somewhere, exploding, said William Van Dusen Wishard, a former official in the Commerce Department and president of WorldTrends Research. We Americans have flaunted our affluence and power in the face of the world, and the world has reacted in varying degrees, terrorism being only the most extreme form of reaction. The myth of globalization The globalization gospel insists that a rising tide lifts all boats and that the global economy is increasing incomes and improving lives everywhere it goes. This is not true even in more favored areas, as farmers and factory workers from the Midwest to Southeast Asia can attest. In large areas of the world, global communications have excited expectations and overturned centuries of traditions, but the global economy has not arrived to fulfill those expectations or to replace those traditions with something of value. Africa is an example, of course, but the Middle East is Exhibit A. The Middle East is really pathetic in its relative lack of participation in the global economy, said Marvin Zonis, a professor at the University of Chicago's Graduate School of Business and an expert on the region. The global economy is powered by trade and investment, but, apart from the oil and gas industry, there is virtually no Western investment in or trade with Middle Eastern economies, Zonis said. Foreign investment in the region was about $6.5 billion in 1998, according to UN statistics. Of this, $4.8 billion went to Saudi Arabia alone; the other countries, with more than 400 million people, got $1.7 billion. This is less than the amount that went to Hungary, with 10 million people, one-third as much as what went to Thailand (60 million people), one-twelfth as much as what went to Sweden (8 million people). If any region has got the worst of the global economy but none of the best, it is the Middle East. People see the disruption in their own lives, said William Reno, a political science professor at Northwestern University. They recognize that markets can be a very destructive force. In the United States, which is the center of this economy, jobs are destroyed, businesses are destroyed, there is destruction. But our economy offers opportunities, too, for new jobs and businesses and training. In marginal parts of the world, all they get is the destruction. The West's role For all this, the global economy and the United States get the blame: It is no accident that the first two terrorist attacks were on the very symbols of that economy. It's true that the West, in insisting that Third World governments slash budgets
[CTRL] Taliban Announces Capture of US Special Forces Team
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[CTRL] The forgotten terrorists
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Re: [CTRL] Ruddy: More CIA Revelations - Political Correctness Kills
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/02/2001 8:39:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was neither. It was Clinton's PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE which did it...not to mention Clinton's deriliction of duty, not doing the job he was elected to do and rather spending time having sex with anyone and everyone he could during working hours on the taxpayers' time and in the taxpayers-funded office provided to him... Oh June, give me a break. If I had a dollar for every time someone had sex in an office the taxpayers funded, I would be richer than Bill Gates. Clinton was a really hard worker--something you can't say about our present leader who is most notable for his many, many vacations (some as long as a month). Oh I forgot, he was reading to children occasionally during that time. So is almost every mother and father in the United States, and they didn't get a month off from work to accomplish it. Forget Clinton's sex life, and concentrate on the horror in which we are now embroiled. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] USA kisses Turkeys terrorist ass
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[CTRL] mixed muck 10-02
-Caveat Lector- Is Rational Discourse Another Casualty of Tuesday's Attacks? http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20010917.html Suppressing Dissent At Home, Fighting for Freedom Abroad? http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20010924.html US Special Forces Reported in Clash With Taliban http://www.truthout.com/0638.Afghan-9.29-1.htm Justice, Not War http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0929-01.htm Progressive News and Views http://pnews.org/ Vietnam Veterans Against the War Statement on September 11 Attacks http://www.vvaw.org/VVAWCommentary/9-11-01.html = http://www.house.gov/international_relations/105th/ap/wsap212982.htm http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/26/wdrug26.xml http://menewsline.com/stories/2001/september/09_25_6.html http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=SIEGE-COLLEGES-09-27-01cat=AN __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Army Wants To Kill Arafat Says Peres!
-Caveat Lector- Well I wonder if they knocked off all the leaders over there would peace be restored? All that over Israel - they don't even have a river running through it..but then this bunch over here would turn it into Las Vegas - Like King Tuts out there - imagine if they - strange they would call a gambling house king Tuts (or do they see what I see - ante up) So can't you see it the Holy Land Vegas Style...neo signs, and gambling. So the mob does want to move in over there and the Israeli government to date has kept them under control. Somebody's revenge is burning brighter. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Carnivore Substitute Keeps Feds Honest
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/21992.html Carnivore substitute keeps Feds honest By Thomas C Greene in Washington Posted: 02/10/2001 at 20:32 GMT The Forensics Explorers division of CTX is ready to go to market with a Carnivore-like suite called NetWitness which, the company says, can enable ISPs to surrender to the Feds only those specific bits of information about a suspect which a court has authorized for collection. The NetWitness package can separate data to ensure strict, minimal compliance with a pen register or trap and trace order, and later associate the original content if a search warrant or a wiretap warrant is issued, Forensics Explorers General Manager Mark Longworth told The Register. Because Carnivore is capable of capturing far more data than a pen register or trap and trace order is meant to make available, an ISP may well prefer to install its own kit rather than trust Carnivore operators to stick to the letter of the law. There are two chief problems with Carnivore in terms of over-collection, as we reported in a previous article. First is the fact that packet traffic belonging to perfectly innocent subscribers passes through it along with the suspect's data. Basically, we have to trust the FBI not to abuse this incidental access. The motive for them not to do so is the looming possibility of screwing up a prosecution; but now, in the wake of the 11 September atrocities, it's a fair bet that the Feds are going to get a good deal more latitude from the courts in borderline cases. The second problem is that we have no assurance that, when used in 'pen mode', Carnivore doesn't capture more of the packet than its origin, destination and time of transmission. It's quite possible that the subject line of an e-mail memo would be captured, for instance. This certainly goes beyond what's understood as a pen register or trap and trace, where only the origins and destinations of phone calls are to be recorded. The FBI is exuberantly installing Carnivore on public networks now in pursuit of the Bearded Chupacabra. But it's reasonable that an ISP, however eager to cooperate in this venture, might well object to having a mysterious 'black box' installed on its lines. But the fact is, it doesn't have to, so long as it can provide the FBI with the data it's authorized to collect. Doing in-house surveillance can become a feature with which an ISP might differentiate itself from its competitors. For example, you the innocent subscriber can be assured that if a pen register is executed against someone else on the network, your e-mail isn't going to end up in the hands of the FBI. And if you're ever unfortunate enough to come under federal scrutiny, you can be assured that the FBI won't be getting any data beyond what's been legally authorized. There is no logical reason for the FBI to insist that an ISP use its black box. Phone companies don't let them install mysterious devices on their lines, and neither should ISPs. These collections are covered under the CALEA (Communications Assistance to Law Enforcement Act), which obligates communications providers to comply, all right; but that isn't the same as saying that only equipment cobbled together by the Feds can be used. The FBI's irrational devotion to Carnivore is most likely the result of needing to justify the development costs, which we're told were in the neighborhood of $3 million. Pushing it aggressively is essentially a way of denying that it's a sub-standard tool. The NetWitness kit is well within the reach of most ISPs; the collector sells for approximately $2,500 and the analysis station for between $35,00 and $45,000, Longworth told us. Network Ice offers a free do-it-yourself Carnivore kit, but this requires development effort. It may or may not end up cheaper than NetWitness, according to the efficiency of one's in-house geeks.
[CTRL] mixed muck 10-02 ~ 2nd sack
-Caveat Lector- Michael Harari, the fixer http://www.aboutsudan.com/dossiers/michael_harari.htm US State Dept. blocked FBI-Sudan cooperation on embassy bombings http://www.aboutsudan.com/issues/terrorism/us_state_dept_blocked_fbi.htm British Terrorism in Africa http://www.aboutsudan.com/issues/terrorism/british_terrorism.htm Terrorist flaunts 'covenant' with British http://www.aboutsudan.com/issues/terrorism/british_covenant.htm The African parks were created as a cover for destabilization http://www.aboutsudan.com/opposition/parks/parks.htm Media companies will cover the War on Terrorism even as they're lobbying the Bush FCC for rules that will allow them to consolidate more power and make more money http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11605 As the United States embarks on a war on terrorism, both the Pentagon and the press would do well to reflect on the disturbing lessons of the Gulf War http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11606 John MacArthur, publisher of Harper's magazine and author of Second Front, a book about censorship during the Gulf War, answers questions about Bush's policies on war coverage http://www.alternet.org/issues/index.html?IssueAreaID=19 Three Political Websites Downed After Government Homeland Security Threat http://slash.autonomedia.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/30/1859212 Transcript of DOD meeting with media over war censorship rules http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001/t09302001_t0928asd.html Death on a Very Small Planet http://www.emperors-clothes.com/1/rem.htm National Imagery and Mapping Agency http://www.nima.mil/ Global Positioning Satellites http://www.cartome.org/gps-home.htm Empire or Not? A Quiet Debate Over U.S. Role http://www.cartome.org/imperial.htm New Spy Satellite Arrives in Orbit Riding Atlas http://www.cartome.org/spy-sat.htm Military Operations on Urbanized Terrain http://www.cartome.org/fm90-10.htm Russian Military Topos of Afghanistan http://www.cartome.org/afghan-topos.htm FAA Manual: Emergency Procedures http://www.cartome.org/faa-aim-ch6.htm WTC: Sample Debris http://www.cartome.org/paper-trail.htm = http://www.house.gov/international_relations/105th/ap/wsap212982.htm http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/26/wdrug26.xml http://menewsline.com/stories/2001/september/09_25_6.html http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=SIEGE-COLLEGES-09-27-01cat=AN __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NW: FBI agents weren't given approval by the Justice Department
-Caveat Lector- FBI agents in Minneapolis weren't given approval to search terrorist suspect's hard drive by the Justice Department. If 'two and two' were put together could hijackings have been stopped, asks one investigator. By Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE Oct. 1 - Top Justice Department and FBI officials turned down a request by Minneapolis FBI agents early last month for a special counterintelligence surveillance warrant on a suspected Islamic terrorist who officials now believe may have been part of the Sept. 11 plot to attack the World Trade Center and Pentagon, NEWSWEEK has learned. THE HANDLING OF the case of Zacarias Moussaoui-who is now being held in detention in New York-has raised new questions about how U.S. law enforcement officials handled critical intelligence that, in retrospect, might have alerted them in advance to the deadliest terrorist plot in U.S. history. Sources familiar with the case tell NEWSWEEK that FBI agents in Minneapolis seized Moussaoui's computer in mid-August after officials at an Eagan, Minn., flight school tipped them off that the 33-year-old French citizen was acting suspiciously. Moussaoui had sought training only in making turns-not take-offs and landings-and specifically asked about flying over New York air space, officials said. But, while Moussaoui himself was placed in detention on minor immigration charges on August 17, agents in Minneapolis were never given approval by Justice Department officials in Washington to open up the hard drive on the suspect's computer. The Minneapolis agents sought approval to do so-and to take other investigative steps aimed at Moussaoui-in early September under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), officials said. This came after a FBI trace-a request for information from friendly foreign governments-yielded a report from French intelligence that Moussaoui had been associated with members of an Algerian terrorist group and may have traveled to Afghanistan. When agents finally cracked into the computer hard drive after the Sept. 11 attack, officials found new information that only made them more suspicious about Moussaoui. Among the contents, sources said, was data on wind patterns relating to crop-dusters as well as a wealth of other information he had pulled down from the Internet involving crop-dusting aircraft. The information was considered sufficiently alarming that FBI officials requested the immediate downing of all crop-dusting aircraft, fearing that terrorists might be plotting to use them for a chemical or biological attack. (The planes have since been allowed to fly-but not over urban areas.) From the moment he was detained more than six weeks ago, Moussaoui has consistently refused to cooperate with U.S. law enforcement and many officials are now highly suspicious of his conduct. One widely held theory among the law enforcement community is that Moussaoui-who entered the country only last February after living in London-was supposed to have been the fifth hijacker on the United Airlines flight that crashed in southwest Pennsylvania, the only one of the four seized that day that had only four, instead of five, hijackers aboard. But there is still no consensus on the matter. The bottom line is that nobody in the intelligence community has been able to figure out what this guy was up to, said one official. Nevertheless, in the wake of the Sept. 11 attack, the rejection of the FISA warrant has produced tension between field agents in Minneapolis and their Justice Department and FBI superiors in Washington. Officials in Washington are adamant that there was insufficient grounds to approve the warrant based on what was produced by Minneapolis agents. There does not seem to be any disagreement that the legal standards [for a FISA warrant] weren't met, said one top U.S. law enforcement official. The law requires the bureau to show evidence that the suspect is an agent of a foreign power or terrorist group, something the Minneapolis field agents never had, the officials said. But other law enforcement officials are equally insistent that a more aggressive probe of Moussaoui-when combined with other intelligence in the possession of U.S. agencies-might have yielded sufficient clues about the impending plot. The question being asked here is if they put two and two together, they could have gotten a lot more information about the guy-if not stopped the hijacking, said one investigator. © 2001 Newsweek, Inc. Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ==
[CTRL] EMP Threat?
http://www.bayarea.com/c/breaking/docs/039713.htm Posted at 4:14 p.m. PDT Monday, Oct. 1, 2001 Experts cite electromagnetic pulse as terrorist threat LAS VEGAS (AP) -- With the nation guarding against atomic, biological, chemical and hijacked airliner attacks, exerts see little protection from a weapon that could cripple computers and key electronic systems. The danger is from an electromagnetic pulse -- a powerful, split-second wave of energy from a nuclear bomb. Some of the last full-scale nuclear weapons tests conducted in 1992 at the Nevada Test Site northwest of Las Vegas were designed to protect or ``harden'' military systems against electronic failure in a nuclear exchange. However, little of that preventive technology has been applied to civilian equipment, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported. ``I don't think there has been any significant effort to harden the private sector against electromagnetic pulse,'' said John Pike, director of globalsecurity.org, a defense and intelligence policy organization based near Washington, D.C. Twice in the past four years, and as recently as 1999, Congress was warned that detonating a relatively small, 10-kiloton nuclear bomb over the U.S. would produce a burst of energy equal to 10,000 tons of TNT. Such a burst, sometimes referred to as an EMP, could yield tens of thousands of volts of energy and cause widespread damage to computer chips and electronic equipment. The phenomenon could cripple an economy dependent on computer networks and electronic communication systems. The damage from burnout or overloads on electrical circuits would extend far beyond the area directly affected by the blast and radiation, government scientists have told Congress. Officials with Nevada Power Co. and the Southern Nevada Water Authority, two key Las Vegas Valley public utilities, said their electrical systems have no protections against EMP. ``We did not design our system with that in mind,'' Nevada Power spokeswoman Sonya Headen said. ``To our knowledge, there isn't any utility in the country that was designed to withstand EMP.'' Officials with the Federal Aviation Administration's Western Pacific Region Defense and the Threat Reduction Agency, which replaced some functions of the now-defunct Defense Nuclear Agency, did not immediately respond to Review-Journal inquiries about electromagnetic pulse protection. Pike said the risk to FAA systems from electromagnetic pulse is probably classified. However, government scientists have discussed the issue of potential EMP damage on military and civilian systems during congressional meetings. Lowell Wood, a prominent physicist from the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, told a House Armed Services subcommittee in October 1999 that nuclear warheads on a kiloton scale can have a greater EMP threat than nuclear warheads on the megaton scale. Two years earlier, Wood told the subcommittee that the threat to semiconductor-based U.S. power grids and communication systems have increased substantially since electromagnetic pulse was detected during nuclear testing four decades ago. He told the subcommittee in 1997 that civilian passenger jets are also at risk -- particularly at night, when they could be lost without communications, landing beacons and runway lights.
[CTRL] DT: Dogs set ablaze as warning to Taleban's opposition
-Caveat Lector- October 1, 2001 Dogs set ablaze as warning to Taleban's opposition Afghan refugees describe campaign of terror Julius Strauss The Daily Telegraph DASHTI QALA, AFGHANISTAN - The Taleban herded the population of the war-ravaged northern town of Taleqan into its main square. Then they began parading three dogs. Each had a shaved head stencilled with the names of the men the movement most despised: Burhunnadin Rabbani, the ousted Afghan president, Zahir Shah, the exiled king, and George W. Bush, President of the United States. Then they poured gasoline on the dogs and set fire to them. Noor Muhammad, a proud 52-year-old farmer from a nearby village, was among the witnesses. Muhammad Qul, 55, and Abdul Karim, 48, were also there. The three men sat in a refugee camp yesterday surrounded by a sprawling dust plain in opposition-held territory a few kilometres from the front line. They had arrived only hours before after an overnight escape. The three men and their families are the victims of the latest Taleban terror campaign. Facing the prospect of a pulverizing Western bombing campaign that may oust them from power, the fundamentalist rulers of Afghanistan are exacting a terrible revenge against those they suspect of disloyalty. The burning of the dogs 10 days ago was only meant to serve as a warning. Last Friday, at midday prayers, the Taleban struck a second, more telling blow against the local population. First they surrounded the mosque with soldiers. Then a Taleban agent was sent to accompany the mullah to say prayers. The mullah told all the men to fight for Islam, Noor Muhammad said. Then he asked for volunteers. We all put our hands up. We were very scared and thought we would be taken to prison or shot otherwise. On Saturday night, a truck came into the village carrying a dozen Taleban soldiers who began knocking on doors looking for young men. Where they found no men, they started looting. The victims were told they should already have sold their possessions and given the money to Islam. They said we should fight the Americans who want to take away Islam, Noor Muhammad said. Then they began burning the houses where they couldn't find young men. They must have burned down 10 or 20 of the 200 houses in the village. For those who signed up, fate was little better. Each was given a gun and assigned a commander. They were then driven or marched off to collection points to prepare to fight the Americans. When the first strikes come, the unwilling volunteers will be on the front line. Noor Muhammad decided to flee with his family. Late Saturday night, his and two other families set off into the mountains. We knew some sympathizers of the Northern Alliance, he said. They guided us by moonlight between the Taleban and the minefields. As he surveyed his new home yesterday, he looked harried. Some refugees have been in the camp for a year. Muhammad Nazar, an 80-year-old neighbour in the camp with a hoarse voice and receding gums, came as close as an Afghan does to pleading. When are you going to bomb the Taleban? We are waiting and waiting. Five days ago, Taleban soldiers burst into Muhammad's house in Taleqan. When he refused to say where his sons were, they took his rugs and family valuables and then set fire to the building. They wanted our sons to fight against the Americans, he said. But when are the Americans going to strike back? War against the Taleban is the last hope for the thousands of refugees in Dashti Qala camp, surely one of the world's most bleak. In summer, temperatures soar to nearly 50C. In winter, they hover at around 10C. Last winter, residents say 40 of their number died of cold. Most of the aid agencies that feed them have now left. It's more than three weeks since they last got food, said John Weaver, a U.S. aid worker who decided to stay despite the risks. In the baking dust yesterday, Qazi Gul, 70, showed her home for the last year. It is a ragged khaki-coloured tent about one metre by three. She shares it with five others. The area is without road or rail and travellers must make tortuous journeys on dangerous mountain roads. Most northern Afghans drive battered Russian jeeps at breakneck speed. There are no traffic lights, speed limits, drivers' licences or number plates. Taleban-held territory by contrast has roads, infrastructure, electricity and even internal scheduled flights, luxuries unimaginable in the territory of the Northern Alliance. National Post Online is a Hollinger / CanWest Publication. Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational
[CTRL] Get paid to forward under the radar articles
-Caveat Lector- Calling all CTRL'ers Let the battle commenceMeme warfare If you experience any technical preoblems please email me to let me know... Other than that, fingers crossed for phase 1. http://www.everythingsgonnabemint.co.uk/e/r.asp?id=1 AOL and Web TV click a href=http://www.everythingsgonnabemint.co.uk/e/r.asp?id=1;here /a Forgive the cheezy pic of me, but a marketing guy told me that photos help develop trust... we shall see. :) Peace Paul Reilly PS... Don't forget to copy and paste the sig file too : ) Paul Reilly Get paid to forward under the radar articles, click here... http://www.everythingsgonnabemint.co.uk/e/r.asp?id=1 AOL and Web TV click a href=http://www.everythingsgonnabemint.co.uk/e/r.asp?id=1;here /a A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Harris to run for congress
-Caveat Lector- Katherine Harris to Run for Congress By Vickie Chachere Associated Press Writer Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2001; 10:30 a.m. EDT TAMPA, Fla. ââ Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, who hit the national spotlight during last fall's presidential election recount, announced Tuesday she is running for Congress. In light of the recent tragedy, I am more committed than ever to serving the president and our nation, the Republican said in a statement. As a nation we have united to overcome this challenge, and the bonds of our courage and strength to do what is right inspires us to succeed. Harris, 44, wants to replace Republican Dan Miller, who represents the 13th congressional district that encompasses her hometown of Sarasota. Miller said he plans to retire when his fifth term ends next year. Harris' only announced opponent is Republican Chester Flake, a 27-year-old computer consultant making his first try for political office. Flake had said earlier that he intended to ask Harris to step down as secretary of state if she ran for Congress. It's a tremendous conflict of interest, Flake said, noting that the secretary of state's office oversees Florida elections. Harris became well known during the five-week recount that sent George W. Bush to the White House. She became a favorite target of Democrats and took a drubbing in the media, but won praise from Republicans for her handling of the recount. She also helped push through a $32 million election reform package to quiet critics. More recently, she has been under scrutiny for her office's international travel. Last week, Harris fired her inspector general and her office was criticized in a state audit that said her employees sometimes flew business- or first-class to foreign cities rather than the less expensive coach, violating state travel regulations. Sarasota County Republican Party Chairman Tramm Hudson said Harris should win the heavily Republican district easily, even though she will be a political target. She may be used as a poster child to raise money for other Democratic congressional candidates, Hudson said. But in the 13th Congressional district, the Democrats would be hard pressed to find a legitimate opponent for her. A former Democrat who became a Republican in 1986, Harris cannot seek re-election as secretary of state because voters decided to make it an appointed office when her current term ends in January 2003. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Teacher fighting to keep her job
-Caveat Lector- Looks like we will have one less liberal educator when this hearing is over. Teacher fighting to keep her job * Cheryl Mulhearn, a teacher at Florosa, was reprimanded for allegedly telling her class she wished that President Bush had been a victim of the terrorist attacks. By ANGIE TOOLE, Daily News Staff Writer Florosa Elementary School teacher Cheryl Mulhearn plans to fight for her job, denying charges that she said she wished the president had been killed in terrorist attacks or that she visited pornographic sites with a school computer. I deal with school boards all around the state, and I can tell you there's a real rush to judgement here, said Mulhearn's attorney, Tom Brooks. It's disturbing. I think they are after her. Mulhearn became the target of angry phone calls over the weekend, when news of the charges was released, Brooks said. School officials released information about a letter of reprimand against Mulhearn Friday, after a 10-day waiting period allowing the cited teacher to respond. In the letter, Florosa Principal Max Gertsman said the fifth-grade teacher told her students something to the effect that she wished one of the jets was running into the White House, and she hopes that George was in there when it hit. As reports of these comments were made public, Superintendent of Schools Don Gaetz also detailed the reason for Mulhearn's suspension by the school board that same week: charges that she had misused the district computer system to visit pornographic Web sites. Investigation documentation didn't release the names of those who had complained about the remarks, one of the key issues on which union officials and Mulhearn's attorney plan to base a grievance case. The complaints are not anonymous, said Okaloosa County Superintendent of Schools Don Gaetz. We have not released the names of students, but these are real people with real complaints. I am disappointed with the union's decision to defend the highly questionable behavior of this employee. This should be an opportunity for the union and School Board to work together to improve the teaching profession. In looking at district printouts of computer activity, Brooks said his office could only pinpoint one site that might be deemed inappropriate: www.rotten.com. That Web site includes sexual content and graphic violent images including autopsy photographs, but Mulhearn's attorney points out that records show that site had been viewed for only seconds. In May, along with six or seven other sites in the same minute, this site was apparently clicked on and back off again, Brooks said. This documentation was derived from Mulhearn's laptop computer, which was provided through the district's Computers for Teachers program. Gaetz said the evidence shows numerous incidents, more than just a brief, one-time stop at a site of questionable taste. The evidence will show a pattern, over months and months, of questionable involvement on the Internet, the superintendent added. Mulhearn's future with the district may be decided at the board's Oct. 8 School Board meeting in Fort Walton Beach. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WP: Bin Laden Followers Reach Across Globe: Clinton's FBI Learned In 1995 Of Plot To Use Terror Jetliner
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10543-2001Sep22.html Borderless Network of Terror Bin Laden Followers Reach Across Globe By Doug Struck, Howard Schneider, Karl Vick and Peter Baker Washington Post Foreign Service Sunday, September 23, 2001; Page A01 MANILA -- Abdul Hakim Murad washed his hands, and broke a basic rule of bombmaking. When the water mixed with chemical residue in the kitchen sink of unit 603 in the Dona Josefa Apartments here in 1995, it set off an eruption that would reveal the inner workings of a clandestine terrorist cell allied with Osama bin Laden. It also revealed a plan that gave a chilling preview of the attack in New York and Washington on Sept. 11. Arrested and tortured by Philippine intelligence agents, Murad told the story of Bojinka -- loud bang -- the code name bin Laden operatives had given to an audacious plan to bomb 11 U.S. airliners simultaneously and fly an airplane into the CIA headquarters in Langley, Va. -- all after attempting to assassinate Pope John Paul II. The plot in the Philippines, which was recounted to U.S. investigators at the time, appears to be a model of the methods, aims and structure of the network that bin Laden's followers have assembled in dozens of countries around the world. Members of this diffuse confederation of radical Islamists, drawing inspiration, funding and training from bin Laden's al Qaeda group, have provided the foot soldiers -- and some commanders for his core organization -- for attacks on U.S. citizens. These cells, the groups that host them and any country that allows them to operate within its borders are now the declared enemies in the U.S. war on terrorism. An examination of operations linked to bin Laden's network in five countries -- the Philippines, Jordan, Uzbekistan, Yemen and Egypt -- shows how difficult the fight will be. Despite common organizational patterns and ideology, the terrorists fighting for bin Laden's cause come from diverse locations and backgrounds. Some have long ties to bin Laden and al Qaeda. Others have acted nearly autonomously, undetected by authorities until the last moment before an attack, or after one had occurred. The Philippines plot of 1995 had many hallmarks of an operation mounted by terrorists tied to al Qaeda, which means the base. According to Philippine intelligence reports obtained by The Washington Post, the attempt to bomb the airliners was meticulously planned and well financed, and involved preparations in countries across the globe, including the United States. Intelligence records indicate the precise flights that were to be targeted: United 808, Delta 59, Northwest 6, and others. The records included calculations to determine when to set the bomb's timer on each flight. They also included the names of dozens of associates, and photos of some; a record of five-star hotels; and dealings with a trading corporation in London, a meat market owner in Malaysia and an Islamic center in Tucson, Ariz. The intelligence records list flying schools in San Antonio, Schenectady, N.Y., and New Bern, N.C., where Murad trained as a commercial pilot. They describe how money moved through an Abu Dhabi banking firm. Bar hostesses were bribed with gifts and holiday trips to open bank accounts in which to stash associates' funds. The plotters also included in their plans the motives for the mission, in a manifesto recovered by investigators: The U.S. government gives military aircraft to the Jewish state so the Jews can continue fighting and killing. All of this is a result of the U.S. government's financial and military support of the Jewish state. All people who support the U.S. government are our target. Bin Laden's links to the Philippines were established early in the 1990s. In 1991, Abdurajak Janjalani, who had fought with bin Laden in Afghanistan, returned to the Philippines and founded Abu Sayyaf -- father of the sword -- which announced itself by killing two American evangelists in 1991 in a grenade blast. Officials believe Janjalani got money from an Islamic foundation run by bin Laden's brother-in-law, Mohammad Jamal Khalifa, who lived in the Philippines with a Filipino wife. When Pope John Paul II announced he would visit the Philippines in 1995, authorities worried about possible attacks by Abu Sayyaf. But the real threat turned out to be even graver. On Jan. 6, one week before the pope's visit, Police Station 9 in Manila noticed a fire alarm was activated in an apartment building not far from the pontiff's expected route. At first the cause appeared to be a simple cooking fire. But Capt. Aida Fariscal, the night commander, went there to see for herself. I had a sixth sense, she said. As she was looking around, Murad, a 26-year-old Pakistani who called himself Saeed Ahmed, returned. He panicked, and tried to run. His shoe caught on the roots of a potted plant, and Fariscal commandeered a taxi and two bystanders to haul him back to the
[CTRL] LAT: FTC to back off of Privacy Issues
-Caveat Lector- http://latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-100201privacy.story Los Angeles Times latimes.com October 2, 2001 FTC to Drop Push for More Privacy Laws Legislation: Trade agency will abandon Clinton administration's call for tougher measures and focus on enforcement and education. By EDMUND SANDERS, Times Staff Writer WASHINGTON -- Reversing a Clinton administration policy, the new head of the Federal Trade Commission is withdrawing the agency's call for tougher newprivacy laws and instead focusing on increasing the enforcement of existing rules and boosting education efforts. Under the initiative--to be formally announced Thursday by FTC Chairman Timothy J. Muris--the agency plans to increase staffing for privacy-related programs by nearly 50% and reallocate funding from other programs to combat identity theft and educate consumers about how they can safeguard their privacy, according to sources familiar with the plan. The new policy will substantially darken the prospects for more than a dozen online privacy bills currently pending on Capitol Hill, though the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks already had put those bills on a back burner as Congress focuses on more-pressing issues. FTC officials declined to comment Monday, saying details about staffing and funding levels under the new policy would be unveiled in a speech by Muris to business and privacy leaders in Cleveland. The agency has about 1,049 employees and a 2001 budget of $147 million. Muris, a Bush appointee and a frequent critic of government regulation, spent nearly four months studying the privacy issue, meeting with consumer groups, business leaders and academics. The chairman concluded that new laws would provide little benefit to consumers and would place costly burdens on businesses, according to sources close to Muris. Instead, Muris will emphasize industry self-regulation and stronger enforcement of existing laws and regulations that protect consumer privacy and prohibit unfair or deceptive practices. That will include an increase in FTC enforcement actions taken against Web sites and other companies that fail to live up to their privacy policies, according to a source at the FTC. Though the commission has used the threat of lawsuits and regulatory action to get the private sector to improve privacy protections, the agency's enforcement record on privacy has been relatively thin. In the past, FTC officials argued that they lacked the necessary legal authority to crack down on abuses. The FTC's best-known enforcement action came against the now-defunct Web retailer Toysmart, which attempted to sell its customer information after filing for bankruptcy, even though it had promised to keep the data private. The company eventually agreed to destroy the database. The stance against new privacy laws differs from that of Muris' predecessor, Robert Pitofsky, who had concluded last year that current laws were inadequate to protect consumers online. Under Pitofsky, the agency called upon Congress to enact legislation that would provide a minimum level of protection, including requirements that Web sites disclose what sort of personal information they collect and give consumers a chance to keep their data private. That policy led the FTC's two Republican commissioners--then in the minority--to dissent, arguing that the agency's stance went too far. The arrival of Muris in June gave the FTC a Republican majority. In a speech this summer, Orson Swindle, one of the Republican commissioners, said that the new FTC majority is more concerned about the cost of regulation. Privacy advocates welcomed increased FTC enforcement and funding for privacy issues, but they reiterated the call for tougher federal laws. The stance against new legislation is a big step backward, said Sarah Andrews, research director for the Electronic Information Privacy Center, an advocacy group in Washington. It really negates all the work that the staff did last year. There's really no reason to think that the situation has gotten any better. Opponents of new privacy laws say the issue is too complicated to address through legislation. They point to this summer's implementation of a financial privacy law that required banks and insurers to mail disclosure notices to their customers outlining what sort of information they collect and how they use it. The law cost the industry several billion dollars and left many consumers confused. Even before the FTC's new stance, momentum in Congress for approving new online privacy laws was slowing, particularly after Sept. 11. The attacks took much of the wind out of the sails for privacy issues on the Hill, said Jeffrey Eisenach, president of the Progress Freedom Foundation, a conservative research organization in Washington. Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL
[CTRL] AP: Computer Robots Gather Intelligence
-Caveat Lector- In other words, I guess they are saying that they have over invested in technology and under invested in skilled technicians. _ http://news.excite.com/news/ap/010928/14/tech-attacks-software-spies Computer Robots Gather Intelligence By JIM KRANE, AP Technology Writer NEW YORK (AP) For the U.S. military, bombing or rocketing mobile targets like tanks, trucks - and suspected terrorists - has been a frustrating problem. Often, a target captured by surveillance photos disappears before a commander can give the order to fire. In 1998, U.S. authorities believe, Osama bin Laden departed an encampment in Afghanistan just a few hours before a barrage of U.S. cruise missiles demolished it. Now, the military is testing software robots that can identify targets and present them to commanders much more quickly than a human could. The software, known as the Control of Agent-Based Systems or CoABS, uses artificially intelligent agents to sift through troves of images and intelligence data to find viable targets. The intelligent agents, designed by teams of defense contractors and university researchers, deal with one of the chief challenges military and intelligence analysts face: information overload. Humans simply can't cope with the avalanche of incoming communications intercepts, satellite and spy plane images and other data quickly enough to coordinate reliable targets. Software agents can understand voice commands and screen, sort and deliver incoming data, researchers say. It takes us too long to get the intelligence to a weapons system, said James Hendler, the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency's just-departed chief information systems scientist. These agents route the right information to the right people at the right time. The agents might transfer an image from, say, an Air Force spy plane directly to a commander on a nearby Naval vessel, who could quickly order a cruise missile strike - bypassing the usual route through Washington. The Defense Department's robot-like agents handle far more complex tasks than their better-known cousins, the software bots embedded in search engines or the animated paperclip that offers help to users of some Microsoft software. The DOD's dogged software agents work in teams, plumbing the murkiest depths of a computer network, communicating with each other and growing smarter as they work, said Daniel Daskiewich, CoABS program manager at the Air Force Research Lab's site in Rome, N.Y. Army, Navy and Air Force researchers - along with defense contractor Lockheed Martin Corp. - have recognized software agents as absolutely critical in solving another long-standing frustration - the inability to share data across the military's myriad computer systems, Daskiewich said. If you go to an Army command center you'll see 200 people in front of 200 computer systems. They're not interoperating with each other, Hendler said. We created a system that makes it easy for systems to talk to each other. With the oceans of data being collected by U.S. military and intelligence agencies, experts say cross-agency sharing is crucial to tracking future threats. This is among the most important challenges facing the intelligence community, said Steven Aftergood, a Federation of American Scientists analyst. The agencies are swamped with information that they are unable to make heads or tails of. They can harness technology to do some of their preliminary analysis for them. Beyond the United States, software agents could be used in a coalition military effort - such as a future war on terrorism - to link U.S. military systems with those of allies, said researcher Niranjan Suri of the University of West Florida in Pensacola, Fla. DARPA has even developed a programming language for Web pages called DAML - DARPA Agent Markup Language - that helps the software agents read and understand the Defense Department's Internet files, said Katia Sycara, a research scientist who heads Carnegie Mellon University's Advanced Agents Technology Lab. Intelligent software agents might also help with other military tasks, such as crisis planning during an evacuation. In a $50 million, five-year project Sycara's lab developed for DARPA, a mock evacuation plan of the U.S. embassy in Kuwait shows four tiers of software agents designing a route map to the airport - avoiding rebel roadblocks - by monitoring intelligence reports related to the crisis. All these agents coordinate depending on the particular task, said Sycara. You can view them as teams of specialists that assemble to solve your problem, whatever it happens to be at the time. The problem could be changing. Data-mining robots are already being used by U.S. intelligence agencies to pluck information from the Internet and databases of intercepted communications. But the agencies' strict security policies have tempered enthusiasm for sharing data across networks. Many in the
[CTRL] CARNIVORE: Every link you take, every click you make: The FBI could be watching you
-Caveat Lector- http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ct/20011001/cr/every_link_you_take _every_click_you_make_the_fbi_could_be_watching_you_1.html Every link you take, every click you make: The FBI could be watching you Monday October 01 04:27 PM EDT By Matt Bean Court TV Warning: The government could be watching your computer-right now. Depending on your Internet service provider, a special piece of technology called Carnivore could, in fact, be recording the URL of each Web site you visit (including this one) and even the terms you enter into popular search engines. The laws governing when the FBI can use their controversial Internet monitoring system are designed to make sure that criminals, not law-abiding citizens, are targeted. But with the fight against terrorism moving into the digital realm, proposed legislation called for by President Bush could make the technology even easier to use and, say rights groups, even easier to abuse. Though the anti-terrorism proposals may be aimed at suspected saboteurs now, they could act like a Trojan horse for rights abuses in the future, says Jay Stanley, the ACLU's privacy public education coordinator. Americans have to be careful here, said Stanley. That's the way rights are lost. We have to be sure that it's not just a foot in the door to a much broader expansion of powers. New laws passed the week of the attack and sponsored by Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) have already expanded Carnivore's reach, giving U.S. and state attorneys the power to order installation of Carnivore on a temporary, limited basis. The current proposed legislation Congress is now considering would give the FBI even more power to install and use the system. How It Works The Carnivore system is part of a class of electronic surveillance devices called packet sniffers. Packet sniffers, which are also used by companies to monitor employee Internet use, filter all of the internet traffic that passes through a network, looking for key phrases in e-mails, for the visitation of earmarked URLs, and more. To monitor a user's traffic, agents must connect a box containing the system to the network, or internet service provider, that individual uses. Say, for example, that a mob boss was suspected of making drug deals through his Earthlink internet account. If the FBI did not already have a Carnivore system installed there, the agency would obtain a court order to install one, and then an agent would head out to the Earthlink offices to install a box. The box would filter the communications passing through Earthlink's network, paying special attention to those coming from, and heading to, the mob boss's account. Later, an agent would return to Earthlink to retrieve a hard drive from the box, which could be scanned back at the FBI offices. The FBI has been careful not to explain everything about how Carnivore works, but FOIA documents indicate that the system is capable of doing a lot more than just sifting for highlighted key words and web addresses -- it is capable of capturing and archiving not only the specific communications it's targeted at, but all unfiltered traffic on the network as well. This voracious appetite for data may be one reason the system, which the FBI renamed last year as DCS1000, has never been able to shake its prehistoric moniker. Trap and Trace Gets an Update The loosening of restriction on Carnivore are only part of the Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA), a set of proposals which would grant law enforcement new powers in everything from immigration law to collecting the DNA of suspected terrorists. And though a current version of the proposal does not specifically mention the system (neither did the law passed the week of the attacks) computer experts agree that it would grant the FBI more leeway to perform surveillance activities that would require the use of Carnivore. The crucial part of the current anti-terrorism laws that has electronic privacy groups worried is a clause that would allow FBI agents to use Carnivore to expand something called the trap and trace authority of the government. Trap and trace is a term that once referred to obtaining phone records from an individual under surveillance, detailing who called whom and when. That information was considered less serious than recording the content of a phone call, and therefore two levels of warrants were established. To do a trap and trace, agents merely needed to assert to a judge that the warrant would be relevant to an ongoing criminal investigation. To do a wiretap, however, agents would have to get a Title III wiretap warrant by convincing a judge that the surveillance would be likely to turn up dirt from, say a suspected terrorist. The crucial difference, says Stanley, is that a trap and trace warrant is much easier to obtain. You don't even need to be suspected of a crime for that, he says. Fast forward to the digital age: The proposed
[CTRL] JANES: Vital intelligence on the Taliban may rest with its prime sponsor - Pakistan's ISI
-Caveat Lector- http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/misc/janes0110 01_1_n.shtml Vital intelligence on the Taliban may rest with its prime sponsor - Pakistan's ISI By Rahul Bedi New Delhi Pakistan's sinister Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) remains the key to providing accurate information to the US-led alliance in its war against Osama bin Laden and his Taliban hosts in Afghanistan. Known as Pakistan's 'secret army' and 'invisible government', its shadowy past is linked to political assassinations and the smuggling of narcotics as well as nuclear and missile components. The ISI also openly backs the Taliban and fuels the 12-year-old insurgency in northern India's disputed Kashmir province by 'sponsoring' Muslim militant groups and ministering its policy of 'death by a thousand cuts' that so effectively drove the Soviets out of Afghanistan and led to their political demise. The goings on behind the ISI's nondescript headquarters, located behind high walls on Khayban-e-Suharwady avenue in the heart of the capital Islamabad and its operational offices in the adjoining garrison town of Rawalpindi, have dominated Pakistan's domestic, nuclear and foreign policies - especially those relating to Afghanistan - for over two decades. The ISI chief, Lt Gen Mahmood Ahmed, who was visiting Washington when New York and the Pentagon were attacked, agreed to share desperately needed information about the Taliban with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and other US security officials. The CIA has well-established links with the ISI, having trained it in the 1980s to 'run' Afghan mujahideen (holy Muslim warriors), Islamic fundamentalists from Pakistan as well as Arab volunteers by providing them with arms and logistic support to evict the Soviet occupation of Kabul. The ISI is presently the 'eyes and ears' of the US-led covert action to seize Bin Laden from the Taliban, since hundreds of its agents and their Pathan 'assets' continue to operate across Afghanistan. Its influence with the Taliban can be gauged from the inclusion of Gen Ahmed in the Pakistani military and diplomatic delegation to the militia's religious capital, Kandhar, in southern Afghanistan in an attempt to defuse the looming military crisis. The Pakistani delegation appealed to the Taliban, albeit in vain, to hand over Bin Laden to the US, which holds him responsible for the 11 September attacks on the World Trade Center and Washington in which nearly 7000 people are feared to have died. Founded soon after independence in 1948 to collect intelligence in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir and in East Pakistan (later Bangladesh), the ISI was modelled on Savak, the Iranian security agency, and like Savak was trained by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the SDECE, France's external intelligence service. The 1979 Soviet occupation of Afghanistan led the CIA, smarting from its retreat from Vietnam, into enhancing the ISI's covert action capabilities by running mujahideen resistance groups against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Former Pakistani president General Mohammad Zia-ul-Haq, who was ultimately assassinated along with his ISI chief, expanded the agency's internal charter by tasking it with collecting information on local religious and political groups opposed to his military regime. Under Gen Zia the ISI's Internal Political Division reportedly assassinated Shah Nawaz Bhutto, one of the two brothers of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto, by poisoning him on the French Riviera in 1985. The aim was to intimidate Miss Bhutto into not returning to Pakistan to direct the multi-party movement for the restoration of democracy, but Miss Bhutto refused to be cowed down and returned home, only to be toppled by the ISI soon after becoming prime minister in 1988. The ISI is believed to have recently formed a secret task force under Gen Ahmed comprising Interior Minister Lt Gen (retd) Moinuddin Haider and Deputy Chief of Army Staff Lt Gen Muzaffar Usmani to 'destroy' major political parties and the separatist Mohajir Quami Movement (MQM) in southern Sindh province. This task force has reportedly encouraged not only religious Islamic organisations such as the Jamaat-e-Islami (JeI) and Jamiat-ul-Ulema Islam (JuI) but also sectarian organisations such as the fundamentalist Sipah Sahaba and the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (which are closely linked to the Taliban and Bin Laden) to extend their activities to Sindh. These organisations are believed to have 'slipped the ISI collar' and begun recruiting unemployed Sindhi rural youth for the Taliban, posing a threat to Gen Musharraf's co-operation with Washington by formenting jihad against the West. After the ignominious Soviet withdrawal from Kabul in 1989 the ISI, determined to achieve its aim of extending Pakistan's 'strategic depth' and creating an Islamic Caliphate by controlling Afghanistan and the Central Asian Republics, began sponsoring a little-known Pathan student movement
[CTRL] It's not a Zionist plot (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
It's not a Zionist plot
The Ottawa Citizen
Tuesday, October 02, 2001
http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawacitizen/editorials/story.asp?id={5627304F-72EF-4509-B3FE-28FA0A7E0560}
Dr. Gamal Solaiman, the imam of the Ottawa central mosque, was blunt in
condemning the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.
It's a horrific thing, he said last week. (It's) simply unacceptable to
go and kill innocent people. Bravo, sir.
Yet the imam has been distressingly obtuse about who carried out the
attacks. Asked whether he thought a Muslim group was involved, he said,
No, I don't. Queried as to whether he believed there was evidence
pointing to the Middle East, he added, All that the Americans are
producing so far does not convince me in the least.
This is navet or denial. Yet the imam is not alone among influential
Canadian Muslims. Ahmed Adam, the Ottawa-area director of the Canadian
Islamic Congress, suggests that people consider who benefits from the
attacks, and goes on to mention Israel. And the Saudi Ambassador to
Canada, Mohammed Raja Al-Hussaini Al Sharif, says mistakes in news reports
can be traced to the Zionist lobby. He then cautions against a rush to
judgment in determining who organized the terror.
To the ambassador, we say: Go home, sir. To Canadian Muslim leaders,
however, we plead for an honest look at the evidence:
a) Although the list of terrrorists who died on the hijacked planes has
been updated as more information surfaces, what has not changed is
evidence that all were Muslims.
b) A four-page letter found in the luggage of one suspect points directly
to fanatics claiming to act in the name of Islam. Remember the battle of
the prophet ... against the infidels as he went on building the Islamic
state, it says, asking its recipients to pray to god ... and recite the
Koran.
c) The pattern of the attacks points to terrorist groups such as that of
Osama bin Laden. Suicide bombings in recent decades have been mostly the
work of Middle-East-based extremists. The World Trade Center attack in
1993 was traced to such militants, as were the bombings of U.S. embassies
in Africa.
d) There is no evidence at all of Israeli involvement or of shadowy U.S.
government plots. One may as well accuse feminists or Martians for all the
crediblity such assertions have.
Does the evidence so far pin down precisely who was involved? No. But it
points strongly toward a group or groups of fanatics, of Middle-East
origin and claiming to represents Islam. In judging who was responsible
for the attacks, rational people must act on the best evidence before
them. If the evidence changes, our judgment must also change. But facts
and wishes are not equal evidence.
Why are so many respected, educated people unable or unwilling to grasp
the distinction? Primarily, we suspect, out of a misguided sense that
Muslims will be seen as collectively guilty.
This isn't so: to posit that a horrific crime was carried out by sick
souls claiming to act in the name of Islam is neither a repudiation of the
religion nor an indictment of its peaceful adherents. Yet many Canadian
Muslims, apparently, believe they stand accused as a group. They do not,
and they should reinforce this by decrying those who use their fine
religion as an excuse for terror.
Canada's Muslim leaders, meanwhile, should show real leadership by
publicly insisting that stories about Zionist conspiracies and militia
plots be treated as the intellectual vapour they are.
That, not denial, will help everyone in the search for the truth behind
the evil.
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[CTRL] War on Terror Profitable (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Assalamu'alaikum, War on Terror Profitable http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_01_01/War_on_Terror_Profitable/war_on_terror_profitable.html Same Old Names, Faces Primed to Make Big Bucks Off Tragedy President Bush's crusade against the Taliban of Afghanistan has more to do with control of the immense oil and gas resources of the Caspian Basin than it does with rooting out terrorism. Exclusive to American Free Press By Christopher Bollyn Once again an American president from the Bush family is leading Americans down an oil-rich Mid dle Eastern warpath against enemies of freedom and democracy. President George W. Bush, whose family is well connected to oil and energy companies, has called for an international crusade against Islamic terrorists, who he says hate Americans simply because they are the brightest beacon of freedom and a democracy. The focus on religion-based terrorism serves to conceal important aspects of the Central Asian conflict. President Bush's noble rhetoric about fighting for justice and democracy is masking a less noble struggle for control of an estimated $5 trillion of oil and gas resources from the Caspian Basin. One of the material results of the elder Bush's Desert Storm campaign in 1991 was to secure access to the huge Rumaila oil field of southern Iraq, which was accomplished by expanding the boundaries of Kuwait after the war. This allowed Kuwait, a former British protectorate where American and British oil companies are heavily invested, to double its prewar oil output. The Trepca mine complex in Kosovo, one of the richest mines in Europe, was seized last year by front companies for George Soros and Bernard Kouchner, two members of the New World Order gang who devastated Serbia. A similar geopolitical strategy, influenced by Zionist planners, to control the valuable mineral resources of the Caspian Basin underlies the planned aggression against Afghanistan, a Central Asian nation that occupies a strategic position sandwiched between the Middle East, Central Asia and the Indian subcontinent. Central Asia has enormous quantities of undeveloped oil resources including 6.6 trillion cubic meters of natural gas, waiting to be exploited. The former Soviet republics of Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan are the two major gas producers in Central Asia. Today, the only existing export routes from the area lead through Russia. Investors in Caspian oil and gas are interested in building alternative pipelines to Turkey and Europe, and especially to the rapidly growing Asian markets. India, Iran, Russia and Israel are working on a plan to supply oil and gas to south and southeast Asia through India but instability in Afghanistan is posing a great threat to this effort. Afghanistan lies squarely between Turkmenistan, home to the world's third-largest natural gas reserves, and the lucrative markets of the Indian subcontinent, China and Japan. A memorandum of understanding has been signed to build a 900-mile natural gas pipeline from Turkmenistan to Pakistan via Afghanistan, but the ongoing civil war and absence of a stable government in Afghanistan have delayed the project. Afghanistan was at the center of the so-called Great Game in the 19th century when Imperial Russia and the British Empire in India vied for influence. Today, its geographical position as a potential route for oil and natural gas pipelines makes Afghanistan extremely important to energy magnates seeking control of these precious resources. Enron, a Texas-based gas and energy company, together with Amoco, British Petroleum, Chevron, Exxon, Mobil and Unocal are all engaged in a multi-billion dollar frenzy to extract the reserves of Azerbaijan, Kazakh stan, and Turkmenistan, the three newly independent Soviet republics that border on the Caspian Sea. On behalf of the oil companies, an array of former cabinet members from the elder Bush administration have been actively involved in negotiations with the former Soviet republics. The dealmakers include James Baker, Brent Scowcroft, John Sununu and, notably, Dick Cheney, now vice president. Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan are also closely allied with Israeli commercial interests and Israeli military intelligence. In Turkmenistan, a former Israeli intelligence agent, Yosef A. Maiman, president of Merhav Group of Israel, is the official negotiator and policy maker responsible for developing the energy resources of Turkmenistan. This is the Great Game all over, Maiman told The Wall Street Journal about his role in furthering the geopolitical goals of both the U.S. and Israel in Central Asia. We are doing what U.S. and Israeli policy could not achieve-controlling the transport route is controlling the product, he said. Those who control the oil routes out of Central Asia will impact all future direction and quantities of flow and the distribution of revenues from new production, said energy expert James Dorian in Oil Gas Journal on Sept.10. Foreign
[CTRL] Stop UN Prosecution of our troops
-Caveat Lector- Here is today's Sixty Second Activist ACTION ITEM: ISSUE: The Washington Times reported today (9/28) that the Bush administration has endorsed legislation to protect U.S. troops sent overseas from politically motivated and frivolous prosecution by the new International Criminal Court (ICC). Minutes before midnight on December 31, 2000, then-President Bill Clinton signed America onto a United Nations treaty establishing the ICC. This treaty could obliterate our Bill of Rights. The treaty must be ratified by the U.S. Senate before it becomes binding. When Republicans controlled the Senate, we could count on Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Jesse Helms to keep the treaty from even being voted on, much less passed. Not anymore, though. Now the Democrats control the process -- but what's worse, according to the ICC treaty, *the court would have jurisdiction even over nations that refused to join!* If the U.S. is forced to abide by this treaty, it could: ** Make all of us criminals -- the police arm of the ICC would have the power to arrest (without warrant or due process) any citizen for any violation they name. Charges of crimes against the environment could be levied against land developers, or even just someone building their dream home. ** Our military actions would have to be first approved by the U.N., or our soldiers could be prosecuted for war crimes and crimes of aggression. Our military actions in Granada or Panama, for instance, could be deemed criminal. ** Our Bill of Right protections, like the requirements for a search warrant, trial by jury, and a speedy trial, would be gone when charged by the ICC. ** The protection against double jeopardy, being tried for the same crime twice, would be gone. The ICC can try someone over and over until they get the result they want. And there is no appeal. ACTION ITEM: The only good news is that new legislation -- the American Servicemembers Protection Act -- has been introduced in the Senate, which would prohibit any U.S. cooperation with the proposed International Criminal Court. The legislation also blocks U.S. aid to allies unless they agree to shield American troops on their soil from ICC prosecution, and restricts U.S. troops from participating in U.N. peacekeeping missions unless soldiers are explicitly exempted from prosecution by the organization. In addition, the bill authorizes any action necessary to free U.S. troops improperly handed over to that court. The Senate is likely to vote on the ASPA early next week. It was introduced as an amendment to the Department of Defense Authorization Bill. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DEBKAfile: As US-Russian Force Prepares to Go into Afghanistan: Mid East is Temporarily Sidelined
-Caveat Lector- http://www.debka.com/ As US-Russian Force Prepares to Go into Afghanistan Mid East is Temporarily Sidelined 2 October: The most significant feature of the imminent US assault against Afghanistan is the major role to be played by Russian military might, following the new and far-reaching understanding reached between President George W. Bush and President Vladimir Putin. DEBKAfile's military sources reveal that the Tadjikistan based Russian 201st Motorized Rifle Division was beefed up Tuesday with staff commando units, Pashtun speakers and interpreters. Its members also received American-made anti-terrorist equipment and weapons flown in especially. DEBKAfile adds: The anti-terror alliance has split its task into two parts. The Americans and Russians will go for Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda force in the Pamir Mountains, while the UK and Western allies will take on the Taliban in south Afghanistan. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is taking a back seat to events about to explode in Afghanistan. But Israel could find itself in the diplomatic hot seat again once the smoke clears from the initial stages of the U.S. military campaign against terrorism. A hint of what could be in store appeared on the front pages of the New York Times and Washington Post on Tuesday. The newspapers reported, in very careful language, that several days before the September 11 terror attacks in New York and Washington, U.S. secretary of state Colin Powell planned to announce in a speech to the U.N. General Assembly the Bush administration's support for the establishment of a Palestinian state. The speech, which was never delivered in the aftermath of the suicide hijack-bombings that led to the cancellation of much of the General Assembly session, was to have paved the way for a meeting in New York between President George W. Bush and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. Now, the reports said, State Department officials are again trying to find the right time to revive the new U.S. peace initiative. The officials argue that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is hampering U.S. efforts to unite Arab states behind Washington's global coalition against terror. The Israeli media rushed to report - ad nauseum -- this new U.S. peace initiative, even as several hundred U.S. and British bombers prepare to blast Afghanistan. However, as both U.S. newspapers noted, U.S. policy is set in the White House, not in the State Department. The real decisions in Washington are made by five people: Bush, vice president Dick Cheney, defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld -- whose position has grown stronger since the attacks in New York in Washington -- deputy defense secretary Paul Wolfowitz and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice. The group of five, which is spearheading the U.S. war effort, has given Powell and senior State Department officials a free hand in forging a global anti-terror alliance. The coalition's sole importance, the decision-makers believe, is to serve as a screen or window dressing for military action in the war. So for now, at least, the sound of the explosions will drown out talk of the U.S. diplomatic move on the Israeli-Palestinian front, but they will not be able to silence completely the murmurs of peace. DEBKAfile' s American and Palestinian experts say the real test for Israel will come after the first stages of the war in Afghanistan. It is possible, our experts say, that State Department officials will eventually try to turn the spotlight back on what they see as the strategic importance of the Middle East and the Israeli-Palestinian dispute. The first stage of this State Department campaign to portray Israel as the sole obstacle to a world anti-terror coalition failed, primarily because of a dramatic change in the global strategic picture. The change was rooted in a new U.S. awareness of who its real friends are. DEBKAfile's sources in Washington say that as late as the second week of September, U.S. leaders still harbored the belief that a world coalition could play an important role against terrorism. But a quarter-century of State Department policy effectively collapsed after Saudi Arabia, and in its wake the entire Arab world including Egypt, denied the United States the use of military bases on their soil to strike at Muslim Afghanistan. Adding insult to injury, the facilities were built with U.S. know-how, technology and military expertise. The Americans, a practical people, instead of complaining publicly about the snub, acted swiftly, effectively and cleverly. On Sunday, September 23, Bush telephoned Russian president Vladimir Putin and spoke to him for 70 minutes. The moment both men hung up, the world we live in had changed and the strategic situation in all its regions, including the Middle East, had shifted radically. The United States and Russia, two old foes who faced off against each other for half a century, became allies in a move that will influence history for the
[CTRL] Why so many Muslims deeply resent the West, and why their bitterness , will not easily be mollified (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/90sep/rage.htm S E P T E M B E R 1 9 9 0 The Atlantic Monthly Online Why so many Muslims deeply resent the West, and why their bitterness will not easily be mollified by Bernard Lewis IN one of his letters Thomas Jefferson remarked that in matters of religion the maxim of civil government should be reversed and we should rather say, Divided we stand, united, we fall. In this remark Jefferson was setting forth with classic terseness an idea that has come to be regarded as essentially American: the separation of Church and State. This idea was not entirely new; it had some precedents in the writings of Spinoza, Locke, and the philosophers of the European Enlightenment. It was in the United States, however, that the principle was first given the force of law and gradually, in the course of two centuries, became a reality. If the idea that religion and politics should be separated is relatively new, dating back a mere three hundred years, the idea that they are distinct dates back almost to the beginnings of Christianity. Christians are enjoined in their Scriptures to render ... unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's and unto God the things which are God's. While opinions have differed as to the real meaning of this phrase, it has generally been interpreted as legitimizing a situation in which two institutions exist side by side, each with its own laws and chain of authority -- one concerned with religion, called the Church, the other concerned with politics, called the State. And since they are two, they may be joined or separated, subordinate or independent, and conflicts may arise between them over questions of demarcation and jurisdiction. This formulation of the problems posed by the relations between religion and politics, and the possible solutions to those problems, arise from Christian, not universal, principles and experience. There are other religious traditions in which religion and politics are differently perceived, and in which, therefore, the problems and the possible solutions are radically different from those we know in the West. Most of these traditions, despite their often very high level of sophistication and achievement, remained or became local -- limited to one region or one culture or one people. There is one, however, that in its worldwide distribution, its continuing vitality, its universalist aspirations, can be compared to Christianity, and that is Islam. Islam is one of the world's great religions. Let me be explicit about what I, as a historian of Islam who is not a Muslim, mean by that. Islam has brought comfort and peace of mind to countless millions of men and women. It has given dignity and meaning to drab and impoverished lives. It has taught people of different races to live in brotherhood and people of different creeds to live side by side in reasonable tolerance. It inspired a great civilization in which others besides Muslims lived creative and useful lives and which, by its achievement, enriched the whole world. But Islam, like other religions, has also known periods when it inspired in some of its followers a mood of hatred and violence. It is our misfortune that part, though by no means all or even most, of the Muslim world is now going through such a period, and that much, though again not all, of that hatred is directed against us. We should not exaggerate the dimensions of the problem. The Muslim world is far from unanimous in its rejection of the West, nor have the Muslim regions of the Third World been the most passionate and the most extreme in their hostility. There are still significant numbers, in some quarters perhaps a majority, of Muslims with whom we share certain basic cultural and moral, social and political, beliefs and aspirations; there is still an imposing Western presence -- cultural, economic, diplomatic -- in Muslim lands, some of which are Western allies. Certainly nowhere in the Muslim world, in the Middle East or elsewhere, has American policy suffered disasters or encountered problems comparable to those in Southeast Asia or Central America. There is no Cuba, no Vietnam, in the Muslim world, and no place where American forces are involved as combatants or even as advisers. But there is a Libya, an Iran, and a Lebanon, and a surge of hatred that distresses, alarms, and above all baffles Americans. At times this hatred goes beyond hostility to specific interests or actions or policies or even countries and becomes a rejection of Western civilization as such, not only what it does but what it is, and the principles and values that it practices and professes. These are indeed seen as innately evil, and those who promote or accept them as the enemies of God. This phrase, which recurs so frequently in the language of the Iranian leadership, in both their judicial proceedings and their political pronouncements, must seem very
[CTRL] Islamic Terrorists are Afraid of Women (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups ** What Islamic Terrorists are Really Afraid of is Women by Boris Johnson The Daily Telegraph, London 27 Sept. 2001 So we're going in. In the next few days, our boys will be taking on the Taliban, and we must all pray they succeed. Let them winkle him out of his cave. Let them blast Osama bin Laden's arms dumps and blitz his followers, and carpet-bomb the Khyber with pineapple chunks, to appease the civilians, and then, and then ... er: nobody seems sure what happens then, because this is a war against terrorism unlike any other. We have had our own such war for the past 30 years, and we know that it is accompanied by a stately hypocrisy. On the one hand, we do our best to catch them, or sometimes just shoot them. On the other hand, we secretly talk to them and give them what they want. We invite them first to Cheyne Walk, in 1973, and eventually to Downing Street. My dear Gerry, my dear Martin, what would it take to get your lads to stop blowing us up? A ministerial Rover? Done. The end of the RUC? Say no more. The trouble with the war against Islamic fundamentalist terror is that the terrorists themselves have no interest in talking. Bin Ladin calls on his followers to kill all infidels. Then, he says, the killers will go to heaven. There is not much room for negotiation there, not even over tea at Number 10. We are not only horrified by the actions of the 19 suicide killers; we are still baffled, two weeks on. What is it really all about? What is the true well-spring of this rage? We have all read that these crazed young men resent America for supporting Israel; that they believe the sufferings of the Iraqi people are excessive; that they hate their own corrupt regimes, especially in Saudi Arabia, and blame America for backing them. None of these geopolitical reasons, I am afraid, quite does the trick, for me. There must be some deeper offence to their pride. I think it is to do with their sense that they are representatives of a culture under siege. They fear that American morals and values will take them over, just as Coca-Cola and McDonald's have conquered the Earth. And what is the biggest single difference between their culture and Western culture? That's easy: it's the treatment of women. Not all Islamic societies are equally sexist. You may not believe it, but the Turks gave women the vote before the British did. But listen to the casual bias of bin Laden's address to brother Muslims. Look at the wacko women's gear that the BBC's John Simpson wore when he smuggled himself into Afghanistan, a sort of blue tent with a letterbox hole for the nose. This is a world where women are lashed for adultery; where little girls are denied education; where female teachers are sacked; and where women are kept from elementary health care. Mohammed Omar, the Taliban leader, says that mingling men and women is Western and decadent, and leads to licentiousness. To call these views medieval is an insult to the Middle Ages. And yet, they are held, with varying intensity, across the Muslim world. In Kuwait, the country for which we fought, they recently decided against giving women the vote. As one enlightened Kuwaiti MP, Ahmad al-Baqer, put it: God said in the holy Koran that men are better than women. Why can't we settle for that? The Kuwaiti tribunes later had a debate on the Sydney Olympics, in which a fruitcake called Waleed al-Tabtabaie called for the banning of women's beach volleyball, on the grounds that it was too sexy and indecent. In Kano, Nigeria, the Muslims banned female soccer. In Dhaka, Bangladesh, women have been banned from working for NGOs. A Malaysian minister recently announced that any kind of skirt is an invitation to rape. Iranian magazines may not show unveiled pictures of Monica Lewinsky, or any other woman who has had sexual relations with President Clinton. The imam of a mosque in Fuengirola, Spain, one Mohamed Kamal Mostafa, has just published a handy guide to when you may beat your wife. Only hit the hands and feet, he says, using a rod that is thin and light. Of course, it's all grotesque. It's nutty. But these prejudices are so deeply held by Islamic fundamentalists that they will die to preserve them. They look at America, and they see a world full of spookily powerful women, such as Hillary Clinton. So terrifying have been the advances of Western feminism that her ludicrous husband can almost be expelled from office for having a sexual liaison with an intern. The Muslim fanatics see denatured men, and abortion, and family breakdown, and jezebels who order men around. It tempts them and appals them and, finally, engrages them. Mohammed Omar says that Only ugly and filthy Western cultures allow women to be insulted and dishonoured as a toy. What he means is that only the West allows women to be
[CTRL] is this thing on?
Title: is this thing on? -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for freedom and truth. Henrik Ibsen NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew
[CTRL] My life with the mujaheddin
-Caveat Lector- The Sunday Times (of London) September 23 2001 TERRORISM Tom Carew, an SAS soldier who helped turn Afghanistan's fighters into an effective modern guerrilla force, on the daunting task facing allied troops in the air or on the ground My life with the mujaheddin When you're wounded and left, On Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out, To cut up your remains, Just roll on your rifle, And blow out your brains, And go to your Gawd, Like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling, *Gunga Din* We were there to assess the Afghan fighting capability and to retrieve Soviet equipment. It was 1980, the Russians had just invaded and the Afghans were fighting a superpower with the same tactics they had used against the British before the first world war. Watching them fight was like watching an old western: the Russian cowboys would come into a valley and down would stream the Afghan Indians. My task was to teach the Afghans modern guerrilla tactics. Without them, they would be exterminated. I tried to go without preconceptions, but it was hard. Before leaving Britain, everyone told me to be careful. The Afghans are barbaric, they'll chop you up, they said. My boss at MI6 gave me a Flashman novel about a cowardly British officer in the first British Afghan war of 1839-42. It was full of knife-wielding maniacs who carved up British soldiers. After a few months adjusting, however, I found the Afghans to be very pleasant. We got along. I respected their bravery; they respected the way I instructed them. I had much more difficulty coping with the terrain. When I arrived in Peshawar, an Afghan military leader warned me: I hope you are fit, my men march very quickly. No problem, I thought, I was used to marching. But my God: up, up, up we went. We entered the Hindu Kush mountains and started climbing. Above 10,000ft the oxygen started to thin and my concentration to lapse. The Afghans were used to it. There was only one thing we had over them: most of them couldn't swim, which made crossing lakes and streams tricky. As fighting terrain, Afghanistan is a nightmare. It's a natural fortress. You can't get far with vehicles - you get bogged down, and the passes are too steep. Laden infantry troops could take five days to reach a beleaguered outpost, a journey that would take a helicopter 20 minutes. The Russians, consequently, had an awful time. It's one thing to put in your infantry, but you've got to keep them within range of your artillery. With difficult mountain passes, this is almost impossible. None of this matters to the Afghans: they have it all organised, moving from one village to the next, where they have stocks of food. This is how they have fought and won wars for 200 years, with little bases all over the place and holes in the ground where everything is buried. This allows them to carry as little as possible and to cover ground much faster than a western force could. We didn't use tents, we lived in caves or slept rough. Most of the army carried just a weapon, three magazines of ammunition and some nan bread, all wrapped in a shawl on their back. No western soldier could carry heavy equipment and keep up with them. For a foreign army, establishing a supply route would be very difficult. To try to carry food and water up those mountains, some of which are 13,000ft high, would be madness. You have to carry bottled water and each gallon weighs 10lb. On some days, we were going through two to three gallons. A soldier in those hills is going to burn 4,000-5,000 calories a day. You need high-calorie rations and the Afghans can live on a lot less. And, of course, there is the weather. Towards the end of this month, winter starts setting in. It begins with rain, then it freezes, then it snows. By mid-October the snow will be up to neck height. A journey that takes three days in summer will take 10 days in winter - and of course in snow you leave tracks. The freezing conditions rule out helicopter support, and the mist in the valleys invites crashes. The Afghan fighters know the mountains as well as a Welsh farmer knows his hills. I heard someone suggest last week that the ground could be covered by putting in a series of four-man teams. That idea is ridiculous. The Hindu Kush is a vast expanse. What can a four-man team do that you can't do with a satellite? Never mind a needle in a haystack; it's like a needle in Wembley stadium. Besides, a western taskforce will stick out like a sore thumb. Most of the Afghan fighters wear sandals soled with old car-tyre treads - the ones I was given to wear were crippling. This means a western bootprint is instantly trackable. Once identified, the Russian soldiers were sitting targets. We trained the Afghans in shoot and scoot; they would lay a little ambush, let rip and disappear. They picked it up quickly. Before long, they had learnt to let the Russian convoys get halfway up a pass and then blow a hole through their
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] CHASE MANHATTEN AND CITIBANK OFF THE HOOK FOR WTC!!
---BeginMessage--- IMF Gave Up Ownership of the World Trade Center Two Weeks Ago!! Copyright 2001 (c) by J.S. Chiappalone The owners of the demolished World Trade Center in lower Manhattan acquired the buildings just two months ago under a 99-year lease allowing them to walk away from their investment in the event of "an act of terrorism". The owners, Silverstein Properties and Westfield America - a shopping mall specialist - purchased the buildings from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey for Dollars 3.2bn in July and completed the financing just two weeks ago. Neither of the buyers would comment on terms of the lease, but such a clause would be considered reasonable for the purchase of a building that had already seen a terrorist bombing and was considered a possible future target. The lease document is understood to spell out certain conditions under which the lessees could walk away from their obligation to spend Dollars 200m in capital improvements and pay annual rental charges. It is understood that the buildings are insured for more than Dollars 3bn, enough to cover rebuilding costs. However, an executive connected to the buyers said: "Ultimately, the decision will be made by politicians. It is a state and federal government decision about whether or not to rebuild on the site." Larry Silverstein, chairman of Silverstein Properties, said yesterday that he was determined to rebuild on the site. "It would be the tragedy of tragedies not to rebuild on this part of New York," Mr. Silverstein was quoted as telling the Wall Street Journal. "It would give the terrorists the victory they seek," he said, adding that he felt a moral obligation to rebuild on the site. Although there have been some suggestions that the site should be left vacant as a memorial park, its location at the heart of America's financial capital means it is probably far too valuable to lie undeveloped. Copyright: The Financial Times Limited IN other words, the real owners, the bank, Chase Manhattan, CITIBANK, which is really the IMF... are off the hook. They got their payoff and are out of it. These people don't LOSE money, they have 99 years to make money. If they'd told us earlier, we'd have gotten OUR kid out of the building! THEY KNEW it was coming. Ben Chambers, of 47th floor said last few weeks they've been making them have ESCAPE DRILLS! SOMEBODY UPSTAIRS KNEW! In other words, nobody was left holding the bag, the lessors saved a few billion tearing the old ratty thing down for free and cheap. It was a firetrap and they knew it, shafts and stairwells carried heat. NOBODY CARED what terrorists were going to DO to this bldg. It hadn't been owned by IMF Citibank and CHASE MANHATTAN for several WEEKS! The new lessors can collect and rebuild. Please let us stay on topic and be civil. To unsubscribe please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs -Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Gold Depositories Buried Beneath Trade Center Rubble - Crosswalk.com News Channel
The better get an army down there - sounds more like a Brinks Job connection everyday? Saba ---BeginMessage--- http://news.crosswalk.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID74088%7CCHID194343%7CCIID828204,00.html ---End Message---
[CTRL] Cool New TV Show Coming Sunday, October 7, 2001 on The Learning Channel
-Caveat Lector- This is a new mini-series I've never seen listed before. All three shows air on the same night: Sunday, October 7, 2001: 7:00pm The Learning Channel - Hyperspace: Life How the solar system was created, how the sun will expand with age and the successes planet hunters have had in finding new planets. 8:00pm The Learning Channel - Hyperspace: Survival What could happen if a black hole, which has the potential to destroy everything in its path, sets a collision course with Earth. 9:00pm The Learning Channel - Hyperspace: Destiny A possible escape route that stretches into deep space which could be used if the Earth, the sun and the solar system vanished. -- .. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hello Anybody There?
-Caveat Lector- I have only gotten one letter all day yesterday and all night today - just one letter? Anybody else having a problem? Did I tee anybody off? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GREYHOUND BUS TERROR SHUTS DOWN NATIONWIDE SERVICE
-Caveat Lector- Terror on Bus (possible hijacking) Developing AP National Headlines and CNN Headline News at 4:44 am PTD reporting Greyhound Bus crash with up to 6 dead and 33 injured. Driver is reported to have had his throat slit by passenger. Both are dead. Survivors have been taken to Nashville, Tenn. hospitals. . Subsequent report also from CNN Headline news, announced that Greyhound was immediately closing down all service nationwideâ¦. Other passengers indicate it was an attempted hijacking. Reports are slow to come in on what are usually reliable sources. Ronn 10/02/01 5:01 AM PDT A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] test
-Caveat Lector- Did you pass or fail??? :-D Tenorlove --- Samantha L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- test __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) LP RELEASE: Anti-terrorism legislation
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:47:59 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:LP RELEASE: Anti-terrorism legislation From: Libertarian Party Announcements owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- === NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 World Wide Web: http://www.LP.org === For release: October 3, 2001 === For additional information: George Getz, Press Secretary Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === New compromise Patriot Act is still a threat to civil liberties WASHINGTON, DC -- Congress should reject the proposed anti- terrorist Patriot Act -- which would greatly expand the federal government's surveillance, wiretapping, and detention authority -- because no new police powers are needed to effectively fight terrorism, the Libertarian Party said today. There's no evidence that these new police powers will actually stop terrorists -- but there is a clear and present danger that they will curtail the fundamental civil liberties of Americans, said Steve Dasbach, the party's national director. That's why this bill should worry Americans more than it will worry terrorists. And that's why Congress should reject it. The Patriot Act -- which will be considered by the U.S. House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday -- is the result of two weeks of closed-door negotiations between Congress and the Bush administration. While the bipartisan compromise made some concessions to civil libertarian concerns, the bill: * Gives any U.S. Attorney or state attorney general the power to install the Carnivore e-mail snooping system in emergency situations without obtaining a court order. * Allows telephone voice mail messages to be obtained by law enforcement with a mere search warrant, which is issued with less court scrutiny than the previously required wiretap warrant. * Expands the definition of terrorist so broadly that it could include non-violent protesters at an anti-war rally. * Makes it easier for the government to tap multiple phones as part of a roving wiretap warrant. * Allows the government to detain legal immigrants for seven days based on a mere accusation of terrorist activity. On Saturday, President Bush urged Congress to approve the provisions in the Patriot Act, saying it gives law enforcement every necessary tool to fight terrorists. But politicians made that promise before, noted Dasbach. For example, in 1978, Congress passed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which created secret federal courts to approve clandestine wiretaps of suspected spies and terrorists. In 1995, Congress expanded the FISA courts' authority to include searches of homes and computers. During its first 21 years in operation, FISA courts authorized 11,950 secret searches and wiretaps -- while rejecting only one search warrant, according to the U.S. Department of Justice. In 1996, Congress passed the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act in the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing, which created courts with the power to deport foreigners based on secret evidence; gave the Secretary of State the authority to arbitrarily designate groups as terrorist; and allowed the government to freeze the assets of suspected terrorist groups. In 1998, after the bombings of American embassies in Africa, Congress passed legislation that authorized roving wiretaps for the first time and increased the maximum Counterterrorism Rewards Program from $2 million to $5 million. That same year, President Clinton also issued two Presidential Decision Directives: PDD-62, which established the office of the National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection and Counter-Terrorism, and PDD-63, which created the National Infrastructure Protection Center. A senior FBI agent told Time magazine in 1998: Any one of these extremely valuable tools could be the keystone to successful operations against terrorists. But none of those additional powers did a thing to stop terrorists from killing 6,000 Americans on September 11, noted Dasbach. That's why, instead of demanding ever-expanding powers, the FBI and other federal law enforcement agencies should simply do their jobs -- by acting on credible warnings of terrorist attacks, he said. If they had done so, 6,000 Americans might still be alive today. According to a September 27 column by Robert D. Novak, Philippine police arrested several Islamic terrorists in 1995 and discovered plans to use commercial airliners to attack targets in America, including the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. That information was passed on to the U.S. government. In August 2001, a flight school in Minnesota contacted the
[CTRL] National Review Cans Coulter (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- National Review Cans Columnist Ann Coulter By Howard Kurtz Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, October 2, 2001; Page C01 http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A55454-2001Oct1?language=printer Even by her usual incendiary standards, Ann Coulter's response to the terrorist attacks was something of a jaw-dropper. We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity, the conservative commentator declared in her column on National Review Online. Those words created an uproar at the Web site, which refused to run a follow-up piece in which Coulter singled out what she called swarthy males. She promptly began bad-mouthing National Review, which responded by axing her as a contributing editor. If National Review has no spine, they are not my allies, Coulter said yesterday. I really don't need friends like that. Every once in awhile they'll throw one of their people to the wolves to get good press in left-wing publications. Asked for comment, National Review Online Editor Jonah Goldberg said: We didn't feel we wanted to be associated with the comments expressed in those two columns. We got a lot of complaints from sponsors and a lot of complaints from readers left, right and center. We've decided for editorial reasons we think are sound that we're no longer going to run Ann Coulter's syndicated column. Coulter's column, distributed by Universal Press Syndicate, is carried by several Web sites and 50 newspapers, including the Washington Times (which did not run the columns on terrorism). A Universal spokeswoman said the Denham Springs News in Louisiana has also canceled the column. But National Review provided the most prominent perch. A former Justice Department attorney and Senate aide, Coulter is the latest opinion-monger to come under fire over the attacks on New York and Washington. She grouped herself with the Rev. Jerry Falwell (who apologized for blaming the attacks on gays, abortionists and civil libertarians) and Politically Incorrect host Bill Maher (who apologized for calling U.S. troops cowards for bombing from afar). People are hysterical about speech right now, Coulter says. Everyone's comments are being taken out of context and wildly misinterpreted. On Maher's ABC show, Coulter accused National Review of having censored her by refusing to run the follow-up column. She said yesterday that National Review Editor Rich Lowry and his deputies are just girly-boys. Lowry was traveling, but Goldberg said: For Ann to go around screaming censorship is absurd. It's called editorial judgment, and there's a world of difference. . . . She's a lawyer. She should know better. Coulter, who also writes for Human Events, has taken her lumps. New York Times columnist Frank Rich said she was fueling hysteria on the right. Boston Globe columnist Alex Beam called her a right-wing telebimbo. Cleveland Plain Dealer columnist Tom Brazaitis accused her of bloodthirsty rhetoric. With her trademark short skirts and long blond mane, Coulter became a cable television fixture during the Monica Lewinsky saga, denouncing Bill Clinton at every turn and producing a book called High Crimes and Misdemeanors. She called Clinton crazy and like a serial killer -- and kept getting invited back by Rivera Live, Larry King Live and Hannity Colmes. Coulter says her line about convert them to Christianity has been misconstrued and was aimed at those celebrating the attacks. I wasn't talking about Muslims generally, she says. I was talking about the crazed homicidal maniacs dancing in the streets. Much of the criticism, says Coulter, comes from anti-Christian bigots who will jump on you for any mention of Christianity. In the follow-up column, Coulter suggested ways to beef up security: We should require passports to fly domestically. Passports can be forged, but they can also be checked with the home country in case of any suspicious-looking swarthy males. Coulter brushed off National Review's decision, saying the Web site paid only $5 a month for her column. Goldberg scoffed at that figure, saying our records tell a very different story. In any event, Coulter doesn't believe the controversy is hurting her. Frankly, I'm getting a lot of great publicity, she says. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] declassif docs
-Caveat Lector- Hi all. is this list working ok? pretty much as soon as i sent off the email with the declassified doc, i stopped receiving CTRL posts. is it just me?, or is everyone not getting any posts through? from what i know of this list it is pretty high volume, and such low traffic is not expected. am i correct? Gary. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [the_octopus] Greyhound Suspends Service Nationwide After Passengers Kil...
---BeginMessage--- [Some news services are reporting upward of ten dead.] http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,35615,00.html Greyhound Suspends Service Nationwide After Four Killed in Tennessee Crash Wednesday, October 03, 2001 MANCHESTER, Tenn. A Greyhound bus crashed Wednesday, killing four of the 37 people aboard and prompting Greyhound to halt all service nationwide as a precaution, a company spokeswoman said. The bus crashed after a passenger slit the driver's throat, another passenger told a Nashville television station. Authorities could not immediately be reached for confirmation. The bus, No. 1115, was en route from Nashville to Atlanta when it crashed, Greyhound spokeswoman Kristin Parsley said. WTVF-TV of Nashville reported that the crash came near Manchester, 50 miles southeast of Nashville on Interstate 24. Speaking by cellular phone from the crash site, passenger Carly Rinearson told WTVF that a man who looked to be 30 to 35 years old kept approaching her front seat in the bus and asking what time it was. The man then asked if he could have her seat, Rinearson said. She refused. Afterward, he just went up to the bus driver and, like, slit his throat and the driver turned the wheel and the bus tipped over, Rinearson said. Parsley, the Greyhound spokeswoman, said 37 people were on board. The Dallas-based company stopped all service as a precautionary measure after the crash, she said. About 1,900 of its 2,300 buses had been on the road when the crash occurred, she said. She said buses already en route were allowed to continue to their destinations. She said she could not confirm anything about the reported slashing. Greyhound has set up a toll-free phone number for relatives seeking information about passengers: 800-884-2744. The Octopus: A Yahoo! Groups Message Service Founded August 25th, 1999 In Memoriam: Danny Casolaro Jim Keith Ron Bonds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
[CTRL] test
-Caveat Lector- ??? Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Howdy liser@aol.com not working . . .
-Caveat Lector- Howdy, Well yesterday I was gone and [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems to be not working. I have moved some and invited others to come to yahoo groups. I maynot add more than 100 folks by myself and need to wait for yahoo admin to move others. Time to keep on keeping on. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Taliban commanders about to mutiny
-Caveat Lector- Taliban commanders 'about to mutiny' By Alex Spillius in Peshawar (Filed: 03/10/2001) TALIBAN military commanders in key border provinces of Afghanistan are plotting to mutiny against the regime, former allies from the guerrilla war against the Soviet Union said yesterday. Anti-Taliban leaders based in neighbouring Pakistan say they are in touch with the commanders, who are their tribal cousins or former brothers-in-arms in the struggle against the Soviet occupation. The commanders are reported to be holding regular meetings in their villages and camps and are ready to move against the Taliban at any time. The threat of American military action and the Taliban's refusal to give up Osama bin Laden means the commanders are no longer willing to operate under Taliban command as they have for five years. Former unit leaders based in Peshawar are also said to be preparing to come out of retirement and cross the border to combat the Taliban in a belt of eastern provinces bordering Pakistan. These provinces are very vulnerable. They are in walking distance of the border and we can easily get our weapons in. They are the gateway to Kabul, and once we start, the Taliban will easily fall apart, said Qazi Amin Waqar, a former mujahideen leader and minister in the government ousted by the Taliban in 1996. He and other exiled opposition leaders communicate regularly with associates inside Afghanistan by satellite telephone or via messengers travelling up to 12 hours by foot across the mountainous frontier. It is just a matter of timing; they are ready for the word to go, said Qazi Amin. The uprising would probably begin in and around Jalalabad, his home city and capital of Nangarhar province, and spread west into Kabul and south into Paktia and Paktika provinces, where the Taliban has already agreed to devolve authority to tribal elders to try to hold on to power. The provinces are dominated by the same Pathan ethnic group as the southern-based Taliban, but have an independent tribal tradition that has never more than tolerated the militia's control. The movement's leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, recognises that his regime may soon be ousted and forced into fighting a guerrilla war. The Taliban's adversaries realise that fear of American military attacks has created an unrepeatable opportunity to topple the puritanical regime. Pakistani newspapers have reported efforts by Ismail Khan, another former anti-Soviet leader now exiled in Iran, to attack Kandahar, the headquarters of the Taliban in the south. Western powers are said to have encouraged him to use old contacts to exploit divisions within the Taliban. Afghans based in Peshawar have been told in telephone calls from friends in Kandahar that most Taliban officials have fled to the hills and that Mullah Omar has left the city in fear of his life and never spends two nights in one place. The Americans have made it clear that they do not want to be seen as the sponsor of any one particular force, especially the Northern Alliance. Though it has provided the only active resistance to the Taliban for the past five years, the alliance, thanks to its support from the hated Russians, has scant credibility in areas beyond its control. Qazi Amin said: Once we have got rid of the Taliban the other problem, Osama bin Laden, will be taken care of. We will not tolerate foreign terrorists on Afghan soil. Sayed Ishaq Gilani, an Afghan patrician and major supporter of efforts to bring back former King Zahir Shah to lead a government of national unity, said: People are mobilising. The commanders are meeting day and night. They are planning attacks on the Taliban. They have the guns and ammunition. They have contacted me and asked for political and financial support. I have passed this message on to representatives of Western countries here. We don't need much. For the price of two to three cruise missiles we could take care of this. It would be so much cheaper for the US and better for our country than if they invade. There is a danger that any new government would be seen as a new puppet and we don't want any more puppets in Afghanistan. Mohammed Nadir, 75, a village head from Paktia, arrived in Peshawar by road at the weekend to consult Mr Sayed. He said: Everyone opposes the Taliban. We never liked them but we accepted them for the sake of peace. But now there are no schools, no hospitals, no order to life, and little food. I have come here to discuss the crisis but the people are ready to rise up. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said,
[CTRL] Fwd: US role in WTC attacks
---BeginMessage--- === On 28 Sep 2001 20:31:30 -0500, in misc.activism.progressive you wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernie Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US role in WTC attacks- Investigation called for by Infinite Justice September 22 2001, Sat, 11:39am Evidence is mounting that the Bush administration may have deliberately provoked a terrorist attack on the U.S. as a means of justifying its plans to replace the Taliban in Afghanistan with a puppet government friendly to gas and oil development in the region. Control of the area is considered crucial not only to development of oil and gas resources, but to a new Silk Road commercial corridor long planned by corporate interests. Many of the important players in this initiative are top officials in the Bush administration, and include VP Cheney and the President himself. Commercial success in the region could only occur through military domination, since the fractious political situation in these countries has stymied all progress in this direction. However, direct intervention by the U.S. military would have been impossible to justify since pursuing speculative development plans can hardly be classified as protecting U.S. interests. In July of this year, the U.S. leaked word to the Taliban that it planned to invade Afghanistan and replace the Taliban government. This was either incredibly stupid foreign relations or a cynical and deliberate effort to provoke a preemptive attack on U.S. soil and thereby justify the requisite use of force. In this circumstance, attacks such as those carried out at the WTC and Pentagon were inevitable. There should be an immediate call for a full and open inquiry into the Bush administration's role in provoking the WTC attacks - all the indications are there, and criminal indictments are routinely obtained on a lot less evidence than this. Sources on US actions leading up to attacks: US planned attack on Taleban - BBC News September 18, 2001 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_155 /1550366.stm Secret memo reveals US plan to overthrow Taliban regime - September 21, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4261737,00,html Threat of US strikes passed to Taliban weeks before US attack - Guardian September 22, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,556279,00.html Sources on oil/gas interests: Testimony by John J. Maresca VP, International Relations UNOCAL CORP - February 12, 1998 (Mr. Maresca was George Bush Sr.'s Ambassador to Cyprus ) http://www.house.gov/international_relations/105th/ap/wsap212982 ..htm Afghanistan Fact Sheet (note section titled Regional Pipeline Plans) - December, 2000 http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/afghan2.html The New Great Game - Guardian, March 5, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4146099,00.html See also article titled Afghanistan and Enron http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=66181group=webca st add your comments = http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id1298/pg1/ http://www.iht.com/articles/33456.htm http://www.theonion.com/onion3412/enemytryouts.html http://www.ctvnews.com/content/sitesections/1/810529.asp http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/KashmirAxis.txt http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/091701a.html http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/xYTolB/TM - ~- Change Links Progressive Newspaper. Act. Act in Love and Spirit. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Rushdie: US knew of 9/11 strike in advance
---BeginMessage--- From: A. Tyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 1, 2001 1:02 PM To: Betty Daly-King [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], dana redding [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: US knew of 9/11 strike in advance JAMES DORAN, TIMES, LONDON: September 27, 2001 The author Salman Rushdie believes that US authorities knew of an imminent terrorist strike when they banned him from taking internal flights in Canada and the US only a week before the attacks. On September 3 the Federal Aviation Authority made an emergency ruling to prevent Mr. Rushdie from flying unless airlines complied with strict and costly security measures. Mr. Rushdie told The Times that the airlines would not upgrade their security. The FAA told the authors publisher that US intelligence had given warning of something out there but failed to give any further details. The FAA confirmed that it stepped up security measures concerning Mr. Rushdie but refused to give a reason. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001330019-2001334144,00.html ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Web hosting company pulls plug on pro-IRA radio station
---BeginMessage--- [This seems like an overreaction. Apparently a web hosting company was afraid that providing web space to an pro-IRA online radio station might get said company in trouble. So it pulled the plug. In any case, it does not appear that they were threatened by -- or even contacted by -- the Feds. --DBM] *** Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 22:23:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Guilherme C Roschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Bush cracks down on antiwar movement (fwd) FYI and for politech... [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.luminousvoid.net *** http://slash.autonomedia.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/30/1859212 Three Political Websites Downed After Government Homeland Security Threat posted by Autonomedia on Sunday September 30, @01:52PM from the is-this-the-last-message-we-will-be-posting-you? dept. raradio.com, the web site which archives all Radio Free Eireann broadcasts, has been taken down because the web service provider was threatened with seizure of their assets if they continued to host terrorist radio programs. Travis E. Towle, the Founder and CEO of Cosmic Entertainment Company, which put up IRARADIO.COM, was told by their internet service provider, Hypervine, that they had been strongly advised to take the web site down. A Hypervine representative read Mr. Towle a statement that, under an Executive Order recently signed by President Bush, the newly created Office of Homeland Security can seize all assets without any notice and/or any real un-reasonable evidence of any company or person that helps, supports, or does anything that can be called or labeled terrorism or is found to be connected to terrorism in any way or means possible. Hypervine is a subsidiary of the New York based Skynet. These threats have also caused Cosmic Entertainment to close the web sites archiving two other WBAI radio programs, Our Americas and Grandpa Al Lewis Live. Our Americas, hosted by Mario Murillo, is an acclaimed news magazine covering Latin America. Grandpa Al Lewis Live features commentary by the actor and political activist who starred in The Munsters and Car 54 Where Are You. Radio Free Eireann, which broadcasts Saturday afternoons at 1:30 p.m. on WBAI 99.5 FM has covered the conflict in Northern Ireland for over twenty years. Guests have included Bernadette Sands, the sister of IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands; Rauri O'Bradaigh, the President of Republican Sinn Fein; Sinn Fein chief negotiator Martin McGuinness and Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern. update: it seems that this (mostly) is not a hoax. www.iraradio.org and www.allewislive.com have been taken down, although www.ouramericas.org is still running with no notice of this event. *** http://www.iraradio.com/ Attention IRAradio Listeners: President Bush recently signed a new law that lets the FBI, CIA OHS seize assets without any notice and/or any real un-reasonable evidence of ANY company or person that helps, supports, or does anything that can be called or labeled terrorism or is found to be connected to terrorism in any way or means possible. Word has spread about several Internet companies that have had their assets seized using this new law. In light of the foregoing and the recent tragic events in the United States, the Cosmic Entertainment Company board of advisors has deemed it advisable and in the best interests of the Company to temporarily shut down the IRAradio.com web site until the turbulence and uncertainty facing our nation has decreased. THE COSMIC ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY DOES NOT AND WILL NOT SUPPORT TERRORISM OF ANY KIND! Questions regarding this web site should be directed to: Travis E. Towle Founder CEO The Cosmic Entertainment Company Phone: 785.554.8238 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** - POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ - ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Hearing in Howe case postponed a month; more jewellery promotion planned
---BeginMessage--- 9:36p ET Tuesday, October 2, 2001 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: Reg Howe reports that the hearing on the dismissal motions in his lawsuit against the Bank for International Settlements and the other suppressors of the gold price has been postponed a month by Judge Reginald C. Lindsay in U.S. District Court in Boston. The judge's order rescheduling the hearing may be encouraging insofar as it suggests that he is taking the case seriously: The clerk has scheduled for hearing on Tuesday, October 9, 2001, the several motions to dismiss this action. Because of the number of such motions and the myriad issues they raise, I will require more time to study the parties' submissions. Accordingly, the hearing in this matter is rescheduled to Monday, November 5, 2001, at 2 p.m. We'll keep you posted. On another issue While anything that increases demand for gold may be welcomed, the gold industry plan announced today for dramatically increasing the marketing of gold as jewellery has to be a deep disappointment to those of us who recognize gold primarily as money and who realize that the gold price is being set not by supply and jewellery demand but by central bank gold leasing and derivative paper -- all aimed at gold's use as money. If only the industry could put into a campaign against the gold price suppression scheme even half a percent of the expenditure contemplated here. CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. * * * DENVER (BUSINESS WIRE) Oct. 2, 2001--The gold mining industry unveiled plans today for a major gold marketing initiative aimed at increasing demand for gold jewellery. The proposed US$200 million annual investment follows a rigorous and independent review of the case for marketing gold by the management consulting firm McKinsey Co. as well as extensive discussions within the global gold industry. With the support of gold producers from across the world, small and large, we intend to launch this campaign in the spring of 2002, said Randall Oliphant, chairman of the Gold Marketing Initiative Steering Committee and president and chief executive officer of Barrick Gold Corp. This sustained and focused commitment would be beyond any marketing effort that our industry has undertaken before. A marketing campaign of this scale could grow demand over baseline for gold jewellery by as much as 340 to 500 tonnes of gold annually by 2006. The plans call for leveraging the current marketing efforts of the World Gold Council by merging the new effort with the existing advertising resources of the council. The marketing initiative would include consumer advertising, trade marketing initiatives, and public relations. What we're really talking about is one coherent marketing campaign with contributions from gold producers -- World Gold Council members and non- members alike, said Mr. Oliphant. It's time to take this compelling single effort to the next stage and compete for consumer dollars. It's time for gold to do what Gucci does for luxury apparel, DeBeers does for diamonds, and other industries do to promote their own product. The Gold Marketing Initiative will be monitored for success against measurable performance benchmarks, including retail jewellery sales, and consumer and retail behavior. It envisions pilot projects to be launched in major markets throughout 2002, with a full ramp-up by 2003. By 2004, the plan calls for individual gold producers to contribute US$4 per ounce of gold produced to sustain an annual US$200 million campaign. The Steering Committee has built significant support for the plan in the past year and now intends to secure the financial commitments to launch the campaign. The committee is comprised of representatives from the following companies: AngloGold, Barrick Gold, Gympie Gold, Kinross Gold, Randgold Resources, and Sons of Gwalia, and is supported by the Australian Gold Council, The Gold Institute, and Credit Suisse First Boston. The independent study by McKinsey Co. and the Steering Committee's efforts have been supported by a majority of gold producers in major gold-producing regions such as North America, South Africa, and Australia. _ If you benefit from GATA's dispatches, please consider making a financial contribution. GATA welcomes contributions as follows. By check: Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. c/o Chris Powell, Secretary/Treasurer 7 Villa Louisa Road Manchester, CT 06043-7541 USA By credit card (MasterCard, Visa, and Discover) over the Internet: http://www.gata.org/creditcard.html By bank wire: Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. c/o Savings Bank of Manchester 923 Main St. Manchester, CT 06040 USA Bank routing number 211-170-185 For account number 9500-574-053 By GoldMoney: http://www.GoldMoney.com Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. Holding number 50-08-58-L By E-Gold: http://www.e-gold.com Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee
[CTRL] Fwd: WHY an oil war, why WW III?
---BeginMessage--- Real reason THE PREXY's HANDLERS set this up, let Arabs seize planes, attack WTC, and why PREXY was off in Florida reading books to CHILDREN that day, safely well away from Washington, and why NYC/ IMF/ CITIBANK and the CHASE MANHATTAN and NEW YORK PORT AUTHORITY sold WTC to Mr. SILVERSTEIN 2 weeks earlier, Why also, a week earlier, three OIL companies merged, CIA's GLOBAL MARINE OIL (Glomar Explorer? drillers undersea) and it IS CIA OWNED, a propriatary company and why all the Bush league pals in HOUSTON at Sta Fe Petroleum, joined with the Arab country of KUWAIT owning 17%, (as in Bush Senior's favorite 'get the oil war?) and why these three merged as a new corp just a week before WTC disaster. AND REASON Why they could let the country take that horrific hit as it filled the FUNCTION OF BEING WTC (pearl) HARBOR is: (drumroll please) The Phoney War In Afghanistan - The Bottom Line By Marshall Smith Brother Johnathon Gazette 10-2-1 The current war on Afghanistani terrorism is a misdirection and a hoax. As pointed out in the book Black Gold Hot Gold the oil expected to flow from the vast oilfields under the Russian Caspian Sea, discovered about 20 years ago remains undrilled and untapped. That field contains about 500 years worth of oil at present world consumption rates. The only possible oil pipeline routes at the present time to handle the massive flow of oil from the Caspian Sea region under Chenya is either through Kosovo to the Mediterranean Sea, or through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Indian Ocean. Two years ago, the Clinton administration attempted to place Kosovo under international control and begin pipeline construction, but was unable to complete the process. The normal oil route would have been to move oil from Chenya, across the Black Sea and through the Bosporus to the Mediterranean. But the narrow Bosporus channel is already clogged with oil tankers from the existing Black Sea oilfields. The only alternate is to move the tankers from the Black Sea, bypassing the Bosporus, up the Danube River and then through a very short pipeline across Kosovo to the Mediterranean at Tirana, Albania. That process was stopped by the Chinese who have supplied and armed the Albanians, as a client state, since 1949. Following the Soviet discovery of the vast Chechen oilfields in the late 1970's, they attempted to take control of Afghanistan to provide a massive pipeline system to allow the Soviets to market their oil directly from the Afghan-Pakistan seaport. This resulted in the decades long Soviet-Afghan war. The Soviets were stopped by the U.S. supplied and armed insurgent groups, including Osama bin Laden, who defeated the Soviets in the late 1980's. The Soviets had massively built up their military in the 1980's, including the world's largest nuclear submarine fleet, gambling on the huge profits to be made by selling their Chechen oil on the open market. When the Afghans under bin Laden, backed by the U.S. CIA stopped the construction of the Soviet-Afghan pipeline, the Soviet Union went through an economic collapse and ceased to exist in 1991. The vast Chechen oilfield still remains fallow and untapped. As identified in Black Gold Hot Gold, the Empire of Energy is now making a new attempt to market the Chechen oil by carpet bombing Afghanistan and building the Afghan pipeline. George W. Bush's statement about declaring war on terrorism is obviously hollow and sallow. It strangely does not include the terrorists in Northern Ireland, nor even the terrorist suicide bombers among the Palestinians. Instead it makes an instant leap of logic to aim the U.S. military directly at Afghanistan. The terrain in northern Afghanistan is the arid rugged foothills of the Himalayas known as the Hindu Kush and is defended by the large fierce tribal armies of the Northern Alliance who are excellent guerilla fighters with years of experience fighting Soviets, now backed by the Chinese, and not connected with the main Taliban government in Kabul. The Soviets spent over 10 years at great expense to attack and carpet bomb Afghanistan, but they found fortress Himalaya is impenetrable. The result was tremendous loss of Soviet lives and the economic collapse of the Soviet Union. George Bush is now leading the United States down that same road. The Empire of Energy has for almost 100 years had as its goal the dismantling of the United States of America and amalgamating it into one large global energy market. They have found in George Bush a willing partner.
[CTRL] Konformist: Greyhound Suspends Service Nationwide After Passengers Killed in Tennessee Crash (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- The death toll is now up to 10 people. According to reports, the driver of the bus survived, and the attacker is Croatian. Authorities are quick to deny any terrorist connection, but one has to wonder...make note in the article below that the attacker kept asking what time it was, almost as if he felt he had to carry out a mission at a certain hour... Also the report I heard on TV stated that Greyhound had just resumed service after having been shut down after the 9/11 attacks; I hadn't realized that, and I wonder why Greyhound service had been halted while Amtrak continued to run... My guess is that we will next hear of some 'incident' on an Amtrak train... June -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 08:23:36 -0400 Subject: Konformist: Greyhound Suspends Service Nationwide After Passengers Killed in Tennessee Crash [Some news services are reporting upward of ten dead.] http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,35615,00.html Greyhound Suspends Service Nationwide After Four Killed in Tennessee Crash Wednesday, October 03, 2001 MANCHESTER, Tenn. A Greyhound bus crashed Wednesday, killing four of the 37 people aboard and prompting Greyhound to halt all service nationwide as a precaution, a company spokeswoman said. The bus crashed after a passenger slit the driver's throat, another passenger told a Nashville television station. Authorities could not immediately be reached for confirmation. The bus, No. 1115, was en route from Nashville to Atlanta when it crashed, Greyhound spokeswoman Kristin Parsley said. WTVF-TV of Nashville reported that the crash came near Manchester, 50 miles southeast of Nashville on Interstate 24. Speaking by cellular phone from the crash site, passenger Carly Rinearson told WTVF that a man who looked to be 30 to 35 years old kept approaching her front seat in the bus and asking what time it was. The man then asked if he could have her seat, Rinearson said. She refused. Afterward, he just went up to the bus driver and, like, slit his throat and the driver turned the wheel and the bus tipped over, Rinearson said. Parsley, the Greyhound spokeswoman, said 37 people were on board. The Dallas-based company stopped all service as a precautionary measure after the crash, she said. About 1,900 of its 2,300 buses had been on the road when the crash occurred, she said. She said buses already en route were allowed to continue to their destinations. She said she could not confirm anything about the reported slashing. Greyhound has set up a toll-free phone number for relatives seeking information about passengers: 800-884-2744. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: NewsFlash: Last Moment Arab Cold Feet - Rumsfeld Rushes to the Region
---BeginMessage--- ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\©http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The new MER Forum and Message Board is now open: http://www.MiddleEast.Org/forum MER NEWSFLASH: U.S. CALLED OFF FIRST ATTACKS ALL U.S. GREYHOUND BUSHES GROUNDED AFTER ATTACK U.S. CALLED OFF FIRST ATTACKS by Jeremy Campbell in Washington [This is London - 3 October 2001]: The United States and Britain yesterday called off military strikes against terrorist targets in Afghanistan at the last minute. Washington officials say today that a severe attack of last-minute cold feet by some key Arab members of the coalition caused President Bush to postpone the operation. The waverers are Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan and Oman, and US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is embarking on an urgent mission today to strengthen nerves in these countries. Prime Minister Tony Blair is also about to undertake a hasty visit to the region. Saudi Arabia's support is especially vital, because Allied aircraft and commanders need its base facilities. Two senior US officials have told reporters that until yesterday the Saudis were firm in their offer to provide assistance for strikes, including use of a state-of-the-art command centre at the Prince Royal Sultan Air Force Base. Then the situation changed. One US official told Knight Newspapers: That is no longer true. We fear there is something deeper here. Mr Rumsfeld's trip to the Middle East is intended to mend these unexpected ruptures. Downing Street, meanwhile, confirmed Mr Blair will be departing on a mission tomorrow but refused, on security grounds, to be drawn on any of the detail. Amid clear unease over the advance leaks of the trip, a spokesman dismissed all reports as speculationî maintaining that some of the suggested calling points for the Prime Minister were simply wrong. Mr Rumsfeld's tour, which includes Saudi Arabia, Oman, Egypt and Uzbekistan, is being compared to the stage-setting trip made by Dick Cheney, then Defence Secretary, to the Gulf just before the start of Desert Storm. This time there is more at stake. Near the top of Mr Rumsfeld's list of priorities is to talk his way to an agreement with Uzbekistan, on the northern border of Afghanistan, to use the country as a staging area for the attack. Uzbekistan is now regarded as a potential key asset in the coming showdown, but is rated the coalition's single most fragile link. Highly attractive to the US are the number of abandoned air bases there, once used by the Soviet Union. This will be Mr Rumsfeld's first face-to-face meeting with the ruling regime there. It has demanded that the US negotiate a complete Status of Forces Agreement before it will permit the use of its military bases - an unrealistic condition which could be tangled up in legal knots for years. The trip, undertaken at the request of President Bush, is expected to last three days. Oman, also skittish, is regarded as an important support base for a ground incursion. US special operations forces can be flown there and then put on amphibious invasion ships. US officials are not sure whether this is a case of lastminute jitters, or something more serious. One notable omission on Mr Rumsfeld's itinerary is Pakistan. The last thing Pakistan needs is a high profile visit by a US Secretary of Defence, said a Pentagon official. The country is contending with ferocious anti-American demonstrations, with Mr Bus burned in effigy and hordes shouting: Death to America! Let Americans come here to be buried! Washington officials advised reporters not to assume military action was only hours away. They stressed that Mr Bush will act only when he is convinced, by Mr Rumsfeld and others, that all the pieces are in place. Such action will come at various stages and times, they said. The President himself told reporters there is no calendar for the start of hostilities. GREYHOUND SUSPENDS U.S. SERVICES AFTER CRASH MANCHESTER, Tenn. (Reuters - 3 Oct, 11:46am) - Greyhound Lines suspended bus services
[CTRL] Scan Faces, Not E-Mail ???
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/oct2001/nf2001103_6375.htm Click Here: A HREF=http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/oct2001/nf2001103_6375.htm; BW Online | October 3, 2001 | Scan Faces, Not E /A - Today's News News Archive Reuters Top News Market Update Customer Service Contact Us Advertising Conferences Permissions Reprints Marketplace Subscribe to BW Take your career to the next level OCTOBER 3, 2001 NEWS ANALYSIS Scan Faces, Not E-Mail That's the message we got from readers in our online poll about freedom vs. security, taken after the Sept. 11 attacks Printer-Friendly Version E-Mail This Story Find More Stories Like This More extensive background checks when applying for a job or renting a home aren't so troubling, but more surveillance by law-enforcement agencies of e-mail and phone calls isn't such a good idea. Those are just some of the results of BusinessWeek Online's recent interactive poll, Personal Freedom vs. National Security. Over the course of three weeks, 1,344 of our readers responded to this poll -- which, having used a self-selected sample, isn't a scientific survey by any means. Still, your responses are intriguing. While they failed to show strong support for a wholesale rollback of personal freedoms, the results indicate that a sizable portion of those who took the survey would be willing to agree to significant changes to fight terrorism. For example, 45.6% of respondents said they'd be very willing, and 22.5% said they'd be somewhat willing to submit to more exhaustive vetting as part of a job-application process. An additional 7.6% said the practice doesn't matter to them. In sum, 75.7% of all respondents aren't concernced about more invasive background checks. As for the controversial practice of installing facial-recognition scanners in public places and transportation hubs, some 43.1% said they'd be very willing to accept this step, and 17.4% said they were somewhat willing. An additional 7.5% said it doesn't matter. So nearly 73% of respondents would have no real problems with facial-recognition systems that could be used to spot terrorists, among other things. JIMMY, GERRY, AND RON. While most respondents probably don't want Larry Ellison running a national ID card system (the outspoken Oracle chief offered his company's software for free to power such an effort), 47.3% said they'd be very willing to submit to such a system, 16% said they'd be somewhat willing, and 5.8% said it doesn't matter to them. In total, just over 69% of respondents said they could accept national IDs, a concept that has been rejected by such politically disparate Presidents as Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan. We recorded far less support for more scanning of e-mail and more listening-in on phone calls. Only 22% of respondents said they'd be very willing to have more surveillance on these communications, while 21% said they'd be somewhat willing, and 6% said it doesn't matter. In contrast, 33.4% said they'd be very unwilling to submit to these steps, and 16.2% said they'd be somewhat unwilling. So on the question of additional wiretapping and e-mail surveillance, respondents were split nearly 50-50. Likewise, on the question of installing government-mandated surveillance devices -- a.k.a. Carnivore boxes -- respondents were evenly split pro and con, with 10% saying they don't know how to answer. The upshot? To help thwart terrorism, our survey takers seem willing to accede to some reductions in personal freedom or to some extensions of existing surveillance systems. After all, national ID cards merely take Social Security numbers and driver's license numbers one step further. And facial recognition automates the type of surveillance that now takes place with video cameras everywhere. But more access to private communications systems, where we share our thoughts and feelings, remains a tough sell. How willing would you be to see: 1) More extensive background checks when applying for a job or buying/renting a home? Option Total % Very Willing612 45.6 % Somewhat Willing302 22.5 % Doesn't Matter to Me102 7.60 % Somewhat Unwilling 114 8.49 % Very Unwilling 206 15.35 % Don't Know 6 0.45 % 2) Facial-recognition scans in public places and transit hubs? Option Total % Very Willing577 43.12 % Somewhat Willing233 17.41 % Doesn't Matter to Me101 7.55 % Somewhat Unwilling 139 10.39 % Very Unwilling 274 20.48 % Don't Know 14 1.05 % 3) National identification cards? Option Total % Very Willing632 47.31 % Somewhat Willing214 16.02 % Doesn't Matter to Me78 5.84 % Somewhat Unwilling 92 6.89 % Very Unwilling 292 21.86 % Don't Know 28 2.10 % 4) More surveillance by law-enforcement agencies of e-mail and phone calls? Option Total % Very Willing294 21.99 % Somewhat Willing282 21.09 % Doesn't Matter to Me81 6.06 % Somewhat Unwilling 217 16.23 % Very
[CTRL] Picture of the Fiery Flying Serpent or rendition of the Phoenix Bird
Arising from the ashes - so found another item on the web re the Timetable for NWO takeover linked to Bible Master Plan for the Bible Calendar I have linked to sabotage, murder of JFK, RFK, MLK etc., and sabotage of Apollo - this is it - this is the Communist Timetable - and the bright burns brigter and brigher - sting of scorpions? Sabaa ---BeginMessage--- http://www.phoenicians.com/ ---End Message---
[CTRL] More on Mark of Beast........
Twinkle Twinkle Little StarRed Stars, Star of Solomon, Star of David, and the bright red star still burns on in the heart of the Scorpion whom some say symbolizes the Serpent with burning sting. Strange now we see this Star of David on Israeli Tanks; and Star of Solomon on American Tanks, and Red Star of Solomon on Russian Tanks.. The Hunt for Osama bin Laden? Like the the stars in the sky it seems the Scorpion and the Hunter never appear on the same stage - but the Archer awaits to assassinate the sun god on November 22, of each year...seems almost like the Scorpio leads the Hunter to his death who is ambushed by the Archer in the heavens? So much for Tiger Tiger Burning Biright. Saba ---BeginMessage--- http://watch.pair.com/mark.html ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Islamic Terrorists are Afraid of Women
-Caveat Lector- exactly one of the great lure for martyrdom in Islam - where, in some places, young men are not permitted to talk to women or look at women, is that upon entering paradise they will have 7 houris - virgins - at their beck and call. -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: RevCOAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:33:20 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Islamic Terrorists are Afraid of Women (fwd) -Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups ** What Islamic Terrorists are Really Afraid of is Women by Boris Johnson The Daily Telegraph, London 27 Sept. 2001 So we're going in. In the next few days, our boys will be taking on the Taliban, and we must all pray they succeed. Let them winkle him out of his cave. Let them blast Osama bin Laden's arms dumps and blitz his followers, and carpet-bomb the Khyber with pineapple chunks, to appease the civilians, and then, and then ... er: nobody seems sure what happens then, because this is a war against terrorism unlike any other. We have had our own such war for the past 30 years, and we know that it is accompanied by a stately hypocrisy. On the one hand, we do our best to catch them, or sometimes just shoot them. On the other hand, we secretly talk to them and give them what they want. We invite them first to Cheyne Walk, in 1973, and eventually to Downing Street. My dear Gerry, my dear Martin, what would it take to get your lads to stop blowing us up? A ministerial Rover? Done. The end of the RUC? Say no more. The trouble with the war against Islamic fundamentalist terror is that the terrorists themselves have no interest in talking. Bin Ladin calls on his followers to kill all infidels. Then, he says, the killers will go to heaven. There is not much room for negotiation there, not even over tea at Number 10. We are not only horrified by the actions of the 19 suicide killers; we are still baffled, two weeks on. What is it really all about? What is the true well-spring of this rage? We have all read that these crazed young men resent America for supporting Israel; that they believe the sufferings of the Iraqi people are excessive; that they hate their own corrupt regimes, especially in Saudi Arabia, and blame America for backing them. None of these geopolitical reasons, I am afraid, quite does the trick, for me. There must be some deeper offence to their pride. I think it is to do with their sense that they are representatives of a culture under siege. They fear that American morals and values will take them over, just as Coca-Cola and McDonald's have conquered the Earth. And what is the biggest single difference between their culture and Western culture? That's easy: it's the treatment of women. Not all Islamic societies are equally sexist. You may not believe it, but the Turks gave women the vote before the British did. But listen to the casual bias of bin Laden's address to brother Muslims. Look at the wacko women's gear that the BBC's John Simpson wore when he smuggled himself into Afghanistan, a sort of blue tent with a letterbox hole for the nose. This is a world where women are lashed for adultery; where little girls are denied education; where female teachers are sacked; and where women are kept from elementary health care. Mohammed Omar, the Taliban leader, says that mingling men and women is Western and decadent, and leads to licentiousness. To call these views medieval is an insult to the Middle Ages. And yet, they are held, with varying intensity, across the Muslim world. In Kuwait, the country for which we fought, they recently decided against giving women the vote. As one enlightened Kuwaiti MP, Ahmad al-Baqer, put it: God said in the holy Koran that men are better than women. Why can't we settle for that? The Kuwaiti tribunes later had a debate on the Sydney Olympics, in which a fruitcake called Waleed al-Tabtabaie called for the banning of women's beach volleyball, on the grounds that it was too sexy and indecent. In Kano, Nigeria, the Muslims banned female soccer. In Dhaka, Bangladesh, women have been banned from working for NGOs. A Malaysian minister recently announced that any kind of skirt is an invitation to rape. Iranian magazines may not show unveiled pictures of Monica Lewinsky, or any other woman who has had sexual relations with President Clinton. The imam of a mosque in Fuengirola, Spain, one Mohamed Kamal Mostafa, has
[CTRL] Fwd: Mind Control, the Illuminati the JFK Assassination
Here is interesting item by guess who? Was directed there through a service called Jeremiah Project and believe me we are going through the timetable of this bible calendar now. All this occult stuff figures in for behind it all you have an unseen hand. Some do call it New World Order - but it is the Family, and their Mafia friends. They use religion and use anything to obtain their goal. Ever notice William Jefferson Clinton runs like a Rockefeller - has unlimited funds, and no doubt though this World Trade Center crashing down hit him so hard, because it was maybe in his pocket book? This Larry Silverman who had the 99 year lease on the World Trade Center - what he wanted to do in Israel would have eventually led to it being a key control and free zone and big rip off - who the hell do these people think they are? So who paid for the World Trade Center in the 1970 period? And cui bono from same? This Giuliano is not to be trusted - for now it is suggested he take over this Port Authority which would give him control over the World Trade Center - where Globalists make the big bucks. Billions of gold at foot of the temple and who turned loose the nuts? Well who trained the god damned killers - it wasn't the American People. The fine hand of British Tony Blair who stood tall next to USA - always same old friends sending US to war. Saba ---BeginMessage--- http://www.parascope.com/articles/1196/kenindex.htm ---End Message---
[CTRL] Cracks appear in Al Aqsa Mosque
-Caveat Lector- TUESDAY OCTOBER 2 2001 FROM DEBKA INTELLIGENCE FILES Cracks appear in Al Aqsa Mosque Muslim construction project blamed for damage to shrine Editor's note: DEBKAfile's electronic news publication is a news- cum-analysis live wire, online round the clock seven days a week. A weekly edition, DEBKA-Net-Weekly, is now available through WorldNetDaily.com. Drawing on DEBKAfile's unique sources, analytical talents and forward-looking insights, it is presented as a compact, intelligence-angled weekly package. It is available as a direct e-mail feed or via the Internet. © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com A small protrusion forming ominously in the 2000-year-old Southern Wall of the Temple Mount and spreading cracks in the fabric of the Al Aqsa Mosque are the result of an extensive Islamic construction project opposed but not stopped by the Israeli government. The alarming damage to the ancient sites developed from five years of unsupervised Islamic construction work aimed at turning Solomons Stables and the adjoining chambers under Al Aqsa into the biggest mosque in the Middle East. Carried out by the Islamic religious authority, called the Waqf, and the Israeli Islamic Movement under its leader, Sheik Raed Salah, the project appears to have been overly ambitious. According to DEBKA-Net-Weekly sources in Israel, it now proves to have been marred by serious engineering mistakes. No Israeli or international engineers, historians or scholars were allowed to inspect the work on a site as required by Israel municipal regulations and national laws governing the protection of historical and religious monuments. Successive Israeli governments, fearing an international Islamic backlash, allowed the underground excavations and construction to go forward, unchecked and unsupervised. Every demand by the Israeli authorities and international archeologists to access the project was met with angry refusals. Two weeks ago, Sheikh Salah told his congregation in Umm al Fahm about the cracks and crumbling patches in the Al Aqsa Mosque wall. But, he added suggestively, the neighbors had heard mysterious sounds of digging in the small hours. The mosque has no neighbors. Palestinian Authority spokesman Ahmed Abdul Rahman announced gravely over Radio Palestine yesterday that Israel planned to exploit a small stone that fell off the top of the Western Wall of the Temple Mount, the Jewish prayer place, to move in and take control of the entire Muslim site. He also mentioned the cracks, but declared, without explaining how, that they were part of an Israeli plot. Al Aqsa, which like the rest of Jerusalem, is located in the earthquake-prone African Rift Valley region, has been destroyed by earthquake seven times since it was built by the citys first Muslim conquerors in the seventh century. The new construction has weakened the structure, so that a tremor could well compound the damage. Some in Israel fear the right kind of propaganda, alleging Jewish culpability, and the repeated call to Defend Al Aqsa! might rally the Islamic world in a flash against Israel which Yasser Arafats intifada has so far failed to do. The Palestinian leader has now begun to hope that a catastrophe on the Haram might even be built up to outdo the impact of Osama bin Ladens assaults in the United States. Meanwhile, the Muslim builders are not yet done. Using forbidden heavy earth-moving equipment, they are now excavating a northerly channel on the Temple Plaza heading in the direction of the Dome of the Rock, whose gilt and blue faience façade dominate the Jerusalem skyline. Breaking into the bedrock in this area, archeologists warn, would also harm the gold-topped Dome, which sits on that rock. The damage to the Islamic sites comes on top of the destruction of unique relics and artifacts from Jewish Temple, Byzantine, Crusader and medieval times, that the Muslim builders smashed and dumped, in defiance of protests from scholars around the world and warnings from engineers. The Palestinian mufti of Jerusalem and Sheikh Salah simply echoed Arafats assertion that the Temple Mount, including the Western Wall, is a Muslim site and no Jewish temples ever existed. Ergo no relics. To make sure this was true, Salahs builders did what they could to obliterate every trace of an historic Jewish presence above and below the ground of Temple Mount, according to Israeli observers. But they forgot to take this into account: The Islamic structures were built on the early foundations of that presence and were supported by them. Therefore, by their acts of vandalism, the new Muslim builders have also wrought irreparable damage to sites holy to Islam. -- Best wishes The purpose of Compulsory Education is to deprive the common people of their commonsense. -G. K. Chesterton A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are
[CTRL] Japan bans cattle feed made of recycled cow parts to combat mad cow disease
-Caveat Lector- (Duh!) Japan bans cattle feed made of recycled cow parts to combat mad cow disease By KOZO MIZOGUCHI, Associated Press TOKYO (October 3, 2001 9:54 a.m. EDT) - Responding to concern over the nation's first case of mad cow disease, Japan banned the domestic distribution Monday of cattle feed made of recycled cow parts and the use of domestic and imported meat-and-bone meal in fertilizers. Japan had already banned imported meat-and-bone meal. The new move comes into effect Thursday, said Tadahiko Tashiro, an Agriculture Ministry spokesman. Tashiro said that under the measure, which he said is aimed at easing worries among consumers, the government will incinerate all meal containing recycled animal parts that is currently sitting unused. With this measure, I am convinced that we have created a system that will completely shut out any possible infection by BSE, Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Minister Tsutomu Takebe told parliament Monday. BSE stands for bovine spongiform encephalopathy, the formal name for mad cow disease. Japanese authorities confirmed last month that a Holstein dairy cow in central Japan was infected with the brain-wasting illness, making it Asia's first known case. Mad cow disease has devastated Europe's cattle industry. Investigators suspect that the cow contracted the disease by eating infected animal feed. The cow was slaughtered in August. To restore public confidence in Japanese meat and dairy products, the government is checking all of the country's 4.5 million cows for the sickness, which is thought to cause the fatal variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans. So far, 95 percent of the herd has been confirmed disease-free, said Yasuaki Ogikubo, an official in the Agriculture Ministry. Ogikubo said the nationwide check has revealed no new cases. The ministry has been criticized for not preventing the disease from entering Japan and for moving too slowly to ensure it doesn't spread. Consumer groups have rapped the government for delaying the ban on domestically produced feed, saying the ministry was more concerned about protecting Japanese ranchers and related industries than safeguarding public health. Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Law firms try to compel pharmaceutical firms to study mercury traces
-Caveat Lector- Law firms try to compel pharmaceutical firms to study mercury traces By WILLIAM McCALL, Associated Press PORTLAND, Ore. (October 2, 2001 10:54 p.m. EDT) - A coalition of law firms went to court across the nation Tuesday, in a bid to force the pharmaceutical industry to study whether vaccines containing a trace of mercury cause autism and other brain damage in young children. The lawsuits were filed as class actions and led by an Oregon woman who says her 3-year-old son, William, became autistic after getting vaccinations containing mercury in a preservative, thimerosal. We had a happy, healthy little boy until that last set of shots, Tory Mead said. It's been devastating. Our lives have been shattered. Michael Williams, the lead attorney, said drug companies did not tell doctors how much mercury was contained in the vaccines until Congress ordered the Food and Drug Administration to find out in 1997. When they added it up, they were shocked to find out it was way above the safe level for an adult, let alone babies or very young children, Williams said. He said thimerosal was used simply as a way to reduce the cost of the vaccine. It was needed to preserve larger bottles that would be used repeatedly. If the drug companies had offered the vaccine in small, disposable vials for individual use, no preservative would have been needed, Williams said. Today, few vaccines given to children in the United States contain thimerosal. The suit seeks to make sure any remaining stocks are removed. The law firm representing Mead formed a coalition of more than 35 law firms across the country representing families in at least 25 states. The suits' immediate goal is getting the industry to study whether the mercury caused the brain problems; damages could be sought if such a link is established. Spokesmen for the firms said the lawsuits were being filed Tuesday in nine states - California, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Washington and West Virginia. Suits already have been filed in Oregon and Massachusetts. The lawsuits were announced the day after the National Academy of Sciences released a report saying researchers still are unable to determine if there is a link between thimerosal and disorders in children. But the report concluded that the effort to remove thimerosal from vaccines was a prudent measure in support of the public health goal to reduce the mercury exposure of infants and children as much as possible. In July 1999, the American Academy of Pediatrics joined the U.S. Public Health Service to warn that vaccines containing thimerosal should be removed as soon as possible. Experts differed over who should pay for the studies sought by the plaintiffs. Lawrence Gostin, a law and public health professor at Georgetown University, said the pharmaceutical industry should at least share the cost. I wouldn't jump to any conclusion there is any causal relationship because chances are, there isn't, Gostin said. But now that an important, independent scientific body like the Institute of Medicine has called for studies, it's time to pay attention. You don't take chances with children. Princeton health economist Uwe Reinhardt said the federal government should pay because drug companies relied on the Food and Drug Administration's approval. I think if there are 20 to 30 million kids at risk, the government should step up to the plate, he said. An FDA spokeswoman said the agency does not comment on pending litigation. Defendants in the lawsuits are Aventis Pasteur Inc.; Pasteur Merieux Connaught; Pfizer Inc., a subsidiary of Warner-Lambert; GlaxoSmithKline; Merck Co.; Abbott Laboratories; American Home Products; Wyeth-Ayerst Laboratories; Lederle Laboratories; Baxter International Inc., Eli Lilly Co.; Integra Chemical Co.; Sigma Chemical Co.; and Aldrich Chemical Co. Three doctors, including one who treated Mead's son, also were named as defendants. A spokeswoman for Merck had no comment. Spokeswomen for Abbott and for Baxter International said the companies acquired subsidiaries that made vaccines, and had little involvement with its manufacture. Calls to other defendants were not immediately returned. Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be
[CTRL] Vaccine preservative removed from supplies as scientists study possible link with childhood disorders
-Caveat Lector- (Now about those mercury amalgum fillings...) Vaccine preservative removed from supplies as scientists study possible link with childhood disorders The Associated Press WASHINGTON (October 1, 2001 4:55 p.m. EDT) - Scientists are still unable to determine if there is a link between a mercury-containing preservative used in some vaccines and disorders such as autism in children, the National Academy of Sciences said Monday. The ingredient, thimerosal, has been removed from most vaccines and the academy said that, despite the lack of proof that it is a hazard, prudence dictates that steps be taken to further reduce its use. Safe Minds, an advocacy group working to reduce children's exposure to mercury, welcomed the report but contended it didn't go far enough. Safe Minds president Sallie Bernard said the group is pleased the report acknowledges the possibility of the preservative being linked to health problems. But she said the group is renewing its call for removal of all childhood vaccines containing thimerosal. The connection between exposure to high levels of mercury and problems with the nervous system has long been known. While thimerosal contains a different form of mercury than the one that has been implicated in nervous disorders, critics have complained that it also may pose a hazard. Thimerosal was used for many years to prevent bacterial contamination of vaccines. Currently, however, few vaccines given to children in the United States contain the product. It was never used in vaccines against measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox and polio. However, until recently, some other vaccines on the recommended childhood immunization list used it. They are now manufactured without thimerosal, but a small number of doses for hepatitis B; diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis; and influenza type B with thimerosal may still be on clinic shelves, according to the report by the Academy's Institute of Medicine. Most children in the United States being immunized today and in the future are unlikely to receive a vaccine that contains thimerosal, said committee chair Marie McCormick, professor of maternal and child health at Harvard School of Public Health in Boston. In those few cases where only supplies containing the preservative are available, the vaccines should be administered rather than foregoing immunization, she said. While the health effects of thimerosal are uncertain, we know for sure that these vaccines protect against real, proven threats to unvaccinated infants, children and pregnant women. The institute said it conducted an extensive analysis of studies assessing whether thimerosal was associated with disorders and found them to be inconclusive. No evidence was found that would prove a link between thimerosal- containing vaccines and autism, attention deficit-hyperactivity disorder, speech or language delays or other neurodevelopmental disorders, the committee said. However, it said that as a precaution, the government should consider changing policies to reduce exposure to thimerosal as much as possible. Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Harris to run for congress
-Caveat Lector- She may be confused - some elections, despite here experiences, are not fixed. -- --- -- -- -- -- They that can give up essential liberty for a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety, Ben Franklin NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 19:49:33 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Harris to run for congress -Caveat Lector- Katherine Harris to Run for Congress By Vickie Chachere Associated Press Writer Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2001; 10:30 a.m. EDT TAMPA, Fla. Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, who hit the national spotlight during last fall's presidential election recount, announced Tuesday she is running for Congress. In light of the recent tragedy, I am more committed than ever to serving the president and our nation, the Republican said in a statement. As a nation we have united to overcome this challenge, and the bonds of our courage and strength to do what is right inspires us to succeed. Harris, 44, wants to replace Republican Dan Miller, who represents the 13th congressional district that encompasses her hometown of Sarasota. Miller said he plans to retire when his fifth term ends next year. Harris' only announced opponent is Republican Chester Flake, a 27-year-old computer consultant making his first try for political office. Flake had said earlier that he intended to ask Harris to step down as secretary of state if she ran for Congress. It's a tremendous conflict of interest, Flake said, noting that the secretary of state's office oversees Florida elections. Harris became well known during the five-week recount that sent George W. Bush to the White House. She became a favorite target of Democrats and took a drubbing in the media, but won praise from Republicans for her handling of the recount. She also helped push through a $32 million election reform package to quiet critics. More recently, she has been under scrutiny for her office's international travel. Last week, Harris fired her inspector general and her office was criticized in a state audit that said her employees sometimes flew business- or first-class to foreign cities rather than the less expensive coach, violating state travel regulations. Sarasota County Republican Party Chairman Tramm Hudson said Harris should win the heavily Republican district easily, even though she will be a political target. She may be used as a poster child to raise money for other Democratic congressional candidates, Hudson said. But in the 13th Congressional district, the Democrats would be hard pressed to find a legitimate opponent for her. A former Democrat who became a Republican in 1986, Harris cannot seek re-election as secretary of state because voters decided to make it an appointed office when her current term ends in January 2003. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be
[CTRL] Fwd: Carnivore Substitute Keeps Feds Honest
---BeginMessage--- http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/21992.html Carnivore substitute keeps Feds honest By Thomas C Greene in Washington Posted: 02/10/2001 at 20:32 GMT The Forensics Explorers division of CTX is ready to go to market with a Carnivore-like suite called NetWitness which, the company says, can enable ISPs to surrender to the Feds only those specific bits of information about a suspect which a court has authorized for collection. The NetWitness package can separate data to ensure strict, minimal compliance with a pen register or trap and trace order, and later associate the original content if a search warrant or a wiretap warrant is issued, Forensics Explorers General Manager Mark Longworth told The Register. Because Carnivore is capable of capturing far more data than a pen register or trap and trace order is meant to make available, an ISP may well prefer to install its own kit rather than trust Carnivore operators to stick to the letter of the law. There are two chief problems with Carnivore in terms of over-collection, as we reported in a previous article. First is the fact that packet traffic belonging to perfectly innocent subscribers passes through it along with the suspect's data. Basically, we have to trust the FBI not to abuse this incidental access. The motive for them not to do so is the looming possibility of screwing up a prosecution; but now, in the wake of the 11 September atrocities, it's a fair bet that the Feds are going to get a good deal more latitude from the courts in borderline cases. The second problem is that we have no assurance that, when used in 'pen mode', Carnivore doesn't capture more of the packet than its origin, destination and time of transmission. It's quite possible that the subject line of an e-mail memo would be captured, for instance. This certainly goes beyond what's understood as a pen register or trap and trace, where only the origins and destinations of phone calls are to be recorded. The FBI is exuberantly installing Carnivore on public networks now in pursuit of the Bearded Chupacabra. But it's reasonable that an ISP, however eager to cooperate in this venture, might well object to having a mysterious 'black box' installed on its lines. But the fact is, it doesn't have to, so long as it can provide the FBI with the data it's authorized to collect. Doing in-house surveillance can become a feature with which an ISP might differentiate itself from its competitors. For example, you the innocent subscriber can be assured that if a pen register is executed against someone else on the network, your e-mail isn't going to end up in the hands of the FBI. And if you're ever unfortunate enough to come under federal scrutiny, you can be assured that the FBI won't be getting any data beyond what's been legally authorized. There is no logical reason for the FBI to insist that an ISP use its black box. Phone companies don't let them install mysterious devices on their lines, and neither should ISPs. These collections are covered under the CALEA (Communications Assistance to Law Enforcement Act), which obligates communications providers to comply, all right; but that isn't the same as saying that only equipment cobbled together by the Feds can be used. The FBI's irrational devotion to Carnivore is most likely the result of needing to justify the development costs, which we're told were in the neighborhood of $3 million. Pushing it aggressively is essentially a way of denying that it's a sub-standard tool. The NetWitness kit is well within the reach of most ISPs; the collector sells for approximately $2,500 and the analysis station for between $35,00 and $45,000, Longworth told us. Network Ice offers a free do-it-yourself Carnivore kit, but this requires development effort. It may or may not end up cheaper than NetWitness, according to the efficiency of one's in-house geeks. ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Sharon: We Control America : Don't worry about American pressure on ...
---BeginMessage--- Sharon: We Control America Don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it. 10/3/01 10:32:31 AM Islamic Association for Palestine Jeruslam, Occupied Palestine -- Sharon to Peres: don't worry about American pressure -- We Control America Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP News) An acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres during which Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying don't worry about American pressure, we control America. According the Israeli Hebrew radio, Col Yisrael Wednesday, Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and turn the US against us. At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying every time we do something you tell me American will do this and will do that I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it. The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against saying what he said in public because it would cause us a public relations disaster. = Proudly Serving Palestine and AlQuds _ Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP) 10661 South Roberts Rd, Suite 202 Palos Hills, IL 60465 Tel: 708 974 3380 / Fax: 708 974 3389 /Pager: 1 800 916 8286 http://www.iap.org E-mails: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Libertarian Socialist News Post Office Box 12244 Silver Spring, MD 20908 http://www.overthrow.com (check out our messageboards -- discuss this story on-line!) (Formerly http://www.libertariansocialist.com) ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Mass Trauma MK
---BeginMessage---
http://www.world-action.co.uk/index2.html
DID WE ALL DIE WITH KENNEDY?
"NOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE FORCED TO
CONFRONT A SCARY ALTERNATIVE REALITY, THE
REALITY OF A SHADOW GOVERNMENT, OVER WHICH
THEY HAD NEITHER CONTROL OR KNOWLEDGE."
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DID WE ALL DIE WITH KENNEDY?
Psychologically, we all died to lesser or greater extent
when President Kennedy was killed openly infront of the
whole world in 1963. The real, vicious and calculating
killers of Kennedy all got clean away. And innocent people,
everywhere, were the victims. And the world changed.
Therefore, we MUST change it back. The following will
give you clues to HOW we can change it back.
The first third isn't too important, but will give you clues
how these daft people think. The last third - showing the
change the world went through AFTER Kennedy's death
- is the important part. Obviously, the killing of Princess
Diana was another key "mass-trauma, mind-control assault"
against all the good people of the world.
Perhaps, we are just about to recover. Uncover the global
cover-ups, and recover ourselves. For sure the soul of John
F. Kennedy would be happy if we did fight back and change
the world back to what it should have been. And Diana too.
"UNCOVER THE GLOBAL COVER-UPS,
AND RECOVER OURSELVES"
"The assassination of JFK was a performance
of the occult ritual called The Killing of the King,
designed as a mass-trauma, mind-control assault
against the national body-politic of the United
States."
---
"The more one studies mind control, secret societies and
the occult, the more one understands the subtlety and
hidden symbolism of the Kennedy assassination.
James Shelby Downard's underground classic, "Sorcery,
Sex, Assassination and the Science of Symbolism," links
American historical events with a grand occult plan to
"turn us into cybernetic mystery zombies."
The assassination of JFK was a performance of the occult
ritual called The Killing of the King, designed as a mass-trauma,
mind-control assault against the national body-politic of the
United States.
Mr. Downard's co-researcher and author, Michael A. Hoffman II,
wrote in "Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare" that "fabled
alchemy had at least three goals to accomplish before the total
decay of matter, the total breakdown we are witnessing all around
us today, was fulfilled and these are:
"The Creation and Destruction of Primordial Matter.
"The Killing of the Divine King.
"The Bringing of Prima Materia to Prima Terra."
MICHAEL HOFFMAN WRITES:
Since ancient times these were the goals of the Gnostic-Rosicrucian
-Masonic-Hermetic Academy, an elite as real and corporeal as President
Bush's Skull and Bones society at Yale University; the Bohemian Grove
in California; Dr. John Whiteside Parson's Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO)
also in California; General Albert Pike's Scottish and Palladian Rites
of Freemasonry and a host of lesser imitators. All of these cults have
or had the highest possible offices, connections and old boy networks.
The Creation and Destruction of Primordial Matter was accomplished
at the White Head ("Ancient of Days"), at White Sands, New Mexico, at
the Trinity Site. The Trinity Site itself is located at the beginning of an
ancient Western road known in old Mexico as the Jornada del Muerto
(the Journey of the Dead Man).
Early in this century a Freemason named Peter Kern was ordered to
build a highly symbolic "Gate of Death" at a key point on this ancient
trail. It was known as the Gate with a Thousand Doors.
At the front of this gate Kern was ceremonially murdered (decapitated)
by a hooded executioner. Gary Trudeau satirized the Aztec-masonic
Comazotz head-chopping cult of the American Southwest in a series
of December, 1988 "Doonesbury" cartoons which depicted Skull and
Bones initiates trying to dispose of a number of heads including that
of Pancho Villa, a key political operative of the cryptocracy who was
in fact also ritually decapitated.
Other occult rituals for the Creation and Destruction of Primordial
Matter were played out in the general area of the 33rd degree of
north parallel latitude in Truth or Consequences, New Mexico.
The Trinity Site is also at this latitude.
There are 33 segments in the human spinal column which according
to occult lore is the vehicle of the fiery ascent of the Kundalini serpent
force which resides in the human body. 33 is the highest degree of
Scottish Rite Freemasonry. Near the Trinity Site a derelict shack was
symbolically dubbed "MacDonald House."
The Creation and Destruction of Primordial Matter occurred exactly
on the Trinity Site, the "Place of Fire" with the explosion of the first
atomic bomb, culminating untold thousands of years of alchemical
speculation and practice.
The Killing of the King rite was accomplished at
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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ ARE AMERICANS THE VICTIMS OF A HOAX? The time has come to stop using the flag as a blindfold, to stop waving our guns and our gods at each other, to take a close look at the facts which have emerged from the attacks on the World Trade Towers and to recognize the very real possibility, indeed probability, that We The People are the victims of a gigantic and deadly hoax. In a normal terrorist event, the terrorists cannot wait to take credit, in order to link the violence to the socio-political intent of the terrorist organization. Yet the prime suspect in the New York Towers case, ex(?) CIA asset Osama Bin Laden (whose brother is one of George W. Bush's Texas business partners), has issued only two statements regarding the September 11th attacks, and both of those are denials of any involvement. Huge problems are emerging in the official view of events. It's known that the United States was planning an invasion of Afghanistan long before the attacks on the World Trade Towers. Indeed the attacks on the World Trade Towers perfectly fit the timetable of an invasion by October stated by US officials just last summer. The 19 names of suspected hijackers released by the FBI don't point to Afghanistan. They come from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, United Arab Emirates; all across the middle east without a focus in any one region. Indeed, even as the FBI was admitting that its list of 19 names was based solely on identifications thought to have been forged, Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal insisted that an investigation in Saudi Arabia showed that the 5 Saudi men were not aboard the four jetliners that crashed in New York, Virginia and Pennsylvania on September 11. "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list had nothing to do with what happened," Al-Faisal told the Arabic Press in Washington after meeting with U.S. President George W. Bush at the White House. A sixth identified hijacker is also reported to still be alive in Tunisia, while a 7th named man died two years ago! In a recent development, the BBC is reporting that the transcript of a phone call made by Stewerdess Madeline Amy Sweeney to Boston air traffic controls shows that the stewerdess gave the seat numbers occupied byu the hijackers, seat numbers which were NOT the seats of the men the FBI claimed were responsible for the hijacking! FBI Chief Robert Mueller admitted on September 20 and on September 27 that at this time the FBI has no legal proof to prove the true identities of the suicidal hijackers. Yet in the haste to move forward on the already planned war in Afghanistan, our government and the FBI (which does not have the best record for honesty in investigations to begin with, having been caught rigging lab tests, manufacturing testimony in the Vincent Foster affair, and illegally withholding/destroying evidence in the Oklahoma Bombing case) are not taking too close a look at evidence that points away from the designated suspect, ex(?) CIA asset Osama Bin Laden. In particular, the FBI, too busy harassing political dissenters to find spies in its midst, the long rumored mole inside the White House, or plug leaks in high-tech flowing to foreign nations, has willfully and criminally ignored the implications of some vital pieces of information the FBI is itself waving around at the public. We are being told that this crack team of terrorists, able to breeze past airport security as if it wasn't there, wound up leaving so much evidence in its wake that the bumbling Inspector Clouseau (or the FBI) could not fail to stumble over it. The locations where the terrorists supposedly stayed are so overloaded with damning materials that they resemble less a crimes scene, and more a "B" detective movie set, with vital clues always on prominent display for the cameras. Yet another problem lies with the described actions of the hijackers themselves. We are being told on the one hand that these men were such fanatical devotees of their faith that they willingly crashed the jets they were flying into buildings. Yet on the other hand, we are being told that these same men spent the night before their planned visit to Allah drinking in strip bars, committing not just one, but two mortal sins which would keep them out of Paradise no matter what else they did. Truly devout Muslims would spend the day before a suicide attack fasting and praying. Not only does the drinking in strip bars not fit the profile of a fanatically religeous Muslim willing to die for his cause, but the witness reports of the men in the bars are of men going out of their way to be noticed and remembered, while waving around phony identifications. Because of the facts of the phony identifications, we don't really know who was on those planes. What we do know is that the men on those planes went to a great deal of trouble to steal the identities of Muslims, and to make sure those identities were seen and remembered, then
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Is Irving Moskowitz a hero or just a rogue? (9-26-1997)
-Caveat Lector- While I dont like Moskovitz and his ilk that much, I have to agree that's its ok for Jews to live in Arab neighborhoods, and visa versa - they path to peace (though I'm not sure that's Moskowitz's intent) is through understanding and acceptance - not apartheid. In new york city the only race riots i can recall happened where two homogeneous neighborhoods abutted one another. In areas where people live together, they tend to LIVE TOGETHER, if you know what I mean. If Jews complained about an Arab businessman setting up housing for Muslim families in a Jewish village, or a Jewish section of Jerusalem, we would be hearing cries of the oppressiveness of Jews in Israel, and their policies of apartheid from many on this list. PS - [Wonder if anyone has blown this up yet - Saba Note] back to Jihad again saba? -- - --- - --- --- Complete liberty of contradicting our opinion is the very condition which justifies us in assuming its truth. John Stuart Mill NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:05:54 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Is Irving Moskowitz a hero or just a rogue? (9-26-1997) Now here is an item on a man - this guy is into gambling and from such a poor boy persecuted by the Nazis in America during WWII? What a lot of crap but here is another tax free foundation and here is the man who builds gambling houses with Larry Flynt and Flynt pours money also into ADL and numerous other fronts? Barry Chamish being destroyed because of his work to get the guy behind the Rabin assassination - take another look at this man and I think of these jewish docors here hooked up to the hit man of Meyer Lansky who left body bag counts but only tried for one? Murder of another doctor. So this is the man whom I believe caused the breakdown of a peace process in Israel and it is the land grab so if the Feds want to investigate someone - start with this man..he is the man who put Sharon in Office and cui bono? Saba September 26, 1997 Is Irving Moskowitz a hero or just a rogue? MATTHEW DORF Jewish Telegraphic Agency WASHINGTON -- An Israeli doctor working in a Manhattan hospital asked his colleague last week, Who's the prime minister of Israel? This week, of course, it's Dr. Irving Moskowitz, Joseph Frager told his questioner. While they laughed, the real Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, locked horns with Moskowitz, the Miami millionaire who at least for the moment is setting Israel's political agenda. Moskowitz threw Netanyahu's government into turmoil last week when he opened the doors of a house he had purchased in Ras al-Amud to three Jewish families. After heated negotiations, Netanyahu convinced Moskowitz to kick the families out of the Arab neighborhood in eastern Jerusalem, on the Mount of Olives. Instead 10 yeshiva students will guard and maintain the property. For years Netanyahu supported Moskowitz's Jerusalem land purchases. The two have been close ever since Moskowitz was instrumental in opening a research institute named after Netanyahu's brother, Yonatan, who died during the famous Entebbe rescue in 1976. Now, Netanyahu's longtime political supporter and friend has put the prime minister on the defensive and thrown yet another wrench into Israeli efforts to restart peace talks with the Palestinians. To Frager, the president of the American Friends of Ateret Cohanim, which supports a yeshiva and land purchases in eastern Jerusalem, this makes Moskowitz a champion, a hero in my eyes. But to many Israelis, the soft-spoken Orthodox American Jew is no hero. The Israeli press has vilified Moskowitz for using his money to pressure the government on Jerusalem. Editorial cartoons last week depicted Moskowitz as a Daddy Warbucks figure, tossing matches from afar into the tinderbox of Israeli-Palestinian relations. Israeli peace groups hoisted banners asking, How many wars have you fought in, Moskowitz? [Remember Sharon said he had the match while Arabs had the oil - did Moskowitz light it then and nowSaba note] It was Moskowitz, after all, who is credited with pressing Netanyahu into opening the tunnel alongside the Temple Mount in Jerusalem last year. The move led to days of Palestinian rioting and the deaths of more than 70 people, including 15 Israelis. A plaque with his name hangs in the tunnel. As Israelis examine how one man can so dramatically set their agenda, last week's incident has many wondering aloud, Who is Irving Moskowitz? In short, he's a 69-year-old retired doctor of internal medicine who has lived in Miami Beach since 1980. But as Netanyahu and others can testify, there is nothing short or simple about Moskowitz. For years, he toiled in the background,
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9-11peace.org Action for Justice, not War Main | Contact Representatives | Petition | Youth Declaration | Events | Action Ideas Why Peace | Email List | Spread the Word | Give | Contact Us | Email FAA Information | Famous signers Languages: English | Traducciónen español | Traduction en français | Traduçãoem portugues | Traduzione in italiano | Deutscheübersetzung | Indonesian | Greek | Korean (Çѱ¹¾î º») | Persian | Chinese | Dutch The Petition What follows is a petition that will be forwarded to President Bush, and other world leaders, urging them to avoid war as a response to the terrorist attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon this week. Please read it, sign below, and forward the link to as many people as possible, as quickly as possible. We must circulate this quickly if it is to have any effect at all, as the Congress of The United States has already passed a resolution supporting any military action President Bush deems appropriate. We, the undersigned, citizens and residents of the United States of America and of countries around the world, appeal to the President of The United States, George W. Bush; to the NATO Secretary General, Lord Robertson; to the President of the European Commission, Romano Prodi; and to all leaders internationally to use moderation and restraint in responding to the recent terrorist attacks against the United States. We implore the powers that be to use, wherever possible, international judicial institutions and international human rights law to bring to justice those responsible for the attacks, rather than the instruments of war, violence or destruction. Furthermore, we assert that the government of a nation must be presumed separate and distinct from any terrorist group that may operate within its borders, and therefore cannot be held unduly accountable for the latter's crimes. It follows that the government of a particular nation should not be condemned for the recent attack without compelling evidence of its cooperation and complicity with those individuals who actually committed the crimes in question. Innocent civilians living within any nation that may be found responsible, in part or in full, for the crimes recently perpetrated against the United States, must not bear any responsibility for the actions of their government, and must therefore be guaranteed safety and immunity from any military or judicial action taken against the state in which they reside. Lastly and most emphatically, we demand that there be no recourse to nuclear, chemical or biological weapons, or any weapons of indiscriminate destruction, and feel that it is our inalienable human right to live in a world free of such arms. Please fill out the following information to sign the petition: Email Address: Name: Location (City, State, Country): Comments: (you only need to click this button once) Your name and email address will not be shared with anyone except those to whom the petition is addressed, nor will it be used for commercial purposes of any kind. Click here for a count of signatures and other information. If you are a public figure, celebrity or high profile academic, please let us know you've signed by emailing us. Main | Contact Representatives | Petition | Youth Declaration | Events | Action Ideas Why Peace | Email List | Spread the Word | Give | Contact Us | Email FAA This site designed by Eli, because something needed to be done. Let me know if you want to copy it. Sincere thanks to our host, Capital Internet for having the generosity to quickly take on this site. The American Friends Service Committee is a great American peace organization.
[CTRL] Boston Airport Security Still Iffy
Granted it is just one person that made it through unchecked but one is probably enough at this point. http://us.f142.mail.yahoo.com/ym/www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/274/metro/_Amazing_lapse_in_security_cited_at_LoganP.shtml DiVERSiONZDiverting You Back to RealityTo Hop On The Bushttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiversionzWeb Presence (Recent Highlights)http://diversionz.blogspot.com/
Re: [CTRL] Seeking Info :Tesla EM RD Weaponry
-Caveat Lector- Test.. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2001 9:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Seeking Info :Tesla EM RD Weaponry -Caveat Lector- I'm interested to hear from anyone / organization that have any information on EM (Tesla) weaponry, RD and or usage. I have had interesting conversations with people from the far reaches of South America and Australia regarding strange fireballs and ionosphonic plasma phenomenon etc.. Regards, Fourier A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: US role in WTC attacks
---BeginMessage--- === On 28 Sep 2001 20:31:30 -0500, in misc.activism.progressive you wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernie Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US role in WTC attacks- Investigation called for by Infinite Justice September 22 2001, Sat, 11:39am Evidence is mounting that the Bush administration may have deliberately provoked a terrorist attack on the U.S. as a means of justifying its plans to replace the Taliban in Afghanistan with a puppet government friendly to gas and oil development in the region. Control of the area is considered crucial not only to development of oil and gas resources, but to a new Silk Road commercial corridor long planned by corporate interests. Many of the important players in this initiative are top officials in the Bush administration, and include VP Cheney and the President himself. Commercial success in the region could only occur through military domination, since the fractious political situation in these countries has stymied all progress in this direction. However, direct intervention by the U.S. military would have been impossible to justify since pursuing speculative development plans can hardly be classified as protecting U.S. interests. In July of this year, the U.S. leaked word to the Taliban that it planned to invade Afghanistan and replace the Taliban government. This was either incredibly stupid foreign relations or a cynical and deliberate effort to provoke a preemptive attack on U.S. soil and thereby justify the requisite use of force. In this circumstance, attacks such as those carried out at the WTC and Pentagon were inevitable. There should be an immediate call for a full and open inquiry into the Bush administration's role in provoking the WTC attacks - all the indications are there, and criminal indictments are routinely obtained on a lot less evidence than this. Sources on US actions leading up to attacks: US planned attack on Taleban - BBC News September 18, 2001 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_155 /1550366.stm Secret memo reveals US plan to overthrow Taliban regime - September 21, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4261737,00,html Threat of US strikes passed to Taliban weeks before US attack - Guardian September 22, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,556279,00.html Sources on oil/gas interests: Testimony by John J. Maresca VP, International Relations UNOCAL CORP - February 12, 1998 (Mr. Maresca was George Bush Sr.'s Ambassador to Cyprus ) http://www.house.gov/international_relations/105th/ap/wsap212982 ..htm Afghanistan Fact Sheet (note section titled Regional Pipeline Plans) - December, 2000 http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/afghan2.html The New Great Game - Guardian, March 5, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4146099,00.html See also article titled Afghanistan and Enron http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=66181group=webca st add your comments = http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id1298/pg1/ http://www.iht.com/articles/33456.htm http://www.theonion.com/onion3412/enemytryouts.html http://www.ctvnews.com/content/sitesections/1/810529.asp http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/KashmirAxis.txt http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/091701a.html http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/xYTolB/TM - ~- Change Links Progressive Newspaper. Act. Act in Love and Spirit. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
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[CTRL] Fwd: US role in WTC attacks
---BeginMessage--- === On 28 Sep 2001 20:31:30 -0500, in misc.activism.progressive you wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernie Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US role in WTC attacks- Investigation called for by Infinite Justice September 22 2001, Sat, 11:39am Evidence is mounting that the Bush administration may have deliberately provoked a terrorist attack on the U.S. as a means of justifying its plans to replace the Taliban in Afghanistan with a puppet government friendly to gas and oil development in the region. Control of the area is considered crucial not only to development of oil and gas resources, but to a new Silk Road commercial corridor long planned by corporate interests. Many of the important players in this initiative are top officials in the Bush administration, and include VP Cheney and the President himself. Commercial success in the region could only occur through military domination, since the fractious political situation in these countries has stymied all progress in this direction. However, direct intervention by the U.S. military would have been impossible to justify since pursuing speculative development plans can hardly be classified as protecting U.S. interests. In July of this year, the U.S. leaked word to the Taliban that it planned to invade Afghanistan and replace the Taliban government. This was either incredibly stupid foreign relations or a cynical and deliberate effort to provoke a preemptive attack on U.S. soil and thereby justify the requisite use of force. In this circumstance, attacks such as those carried out at the WTC and Pentagon were inevitable. There should be an immediate call for a full and open inquiry into the Bush administration's role in provoking the WTC attacks - all the indications are there, and criminal indictments are routinely obtained on a lot less evidence than this. Sources on US actions leading up to attacks: US planned attack on Taleban - BBC News September 18, 2001 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_155 /1550366.stm Secret memo reveals US plan to overthrow Taliban regime - September 21, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4261737,00,html Threat of US strikes passed to Taliban weeks before US attack - Guardian September 22, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,556279,00.html Sources on oil/gas interests: Testimony by John J. Maresca VP, International Relations UNOCAL CORP - February 12, 1998 (Mr. Maresca was George Bush Sr.'s Ambassador to Cyprus ) http://www.house.gov/international_relations/105th/ap/wsap212982 ..htm Afghanistan Fact Sheet (note section titled Regional Pipeline Plans) - December, 2000 http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/afghan2.html The New Great Game - Guardian, March 5, 2001 http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4146099,00.html See also article titled Afghanistan and Enron http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=66181group=webca st add your comments = http://www.disinfo.com/pages/article/id1298/pg1/ http://www.iht.com/articles/33456.htm http://www.theonion.com/onion3412/enemytryouts.html http://www.ctvnews.com/content/sitesections/1/810529.asp http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/KashmirAxis.txt http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/091701a.html http://www.securityfocus.com/news/257 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/xYTolB/TM - ~- Change Links Progressive Newspaper. Act. Act in Love and Spirit. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
[CTRL] [surfingtheapocalypse] LIST OF SONGS BANNED BY CLEAR CHANNEL COMMUNICATIONS
-Caveat Lector- From: surfingtheapocalypse.com LIST OF SONGS BANNED BY CLEAR CHANNEL COMMUNICATIONS IN WAKE OF WTC ATTACK The company owns nearly 1,200 radio stations. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/songs.html Clear Channels List of Songs with Questionable Lyrics Artist / Title Drowning Pool Bodies Mudvayne Death Blooms Megadeth Dread and the Fugitive Megadeth Sweating Bullets Saliva Click Click Boom P.O.D. Boom Metallica Seek and Destroy Metallica Harvester or Sorrow Metallica Enter Sandman Metallica Fade to Black All Rage Against The Machine songs Nine Inch Nails Head Like a Hole Godsmack Bad Religion Tool Intolerance Soundgarden Blow Up the Outside World AC/DC Shot Down in Flames AC/DC Shoot to Thrill AC/DC Dirty Deeds AC/DC Highway to Hell AC/DC Safe in New York City AC/DC TNT AC/DC Hell's Bells Black Sabbath War Pigs Black Sabbath Sabbath Bloody Sabbath Black Sabbath Suicide Solution Dio Holy Diver Steve Miller Jet Airliner Van Halen Jump Queen Another One Bites the Dust Queen Killer Queen Pat Benatar Hit Me with Your Best Shot Pat Benatar Love is a Battlefield Oingo Boingo Dead Man's Party REM It's the End of the World as We Know It Talking Heads Burning Down the House Judas Priest Some Heads Are Gonna Roll Pink Floyd Run Like Hell Pink Floyd Mother Savage Garden Crash and Burn Dave Matthews Band Crash Into Me Bangles Walk Like an Egyptian Pretenders My City Was Gone Alanis Morissette Ironic Barenaked Ladies Falling for the First Time Fuel Bad Day John Parr St. Elmo's Fire Peter Gabriel When You're Falling Kansas Dust in the Wind Led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven The Beatles A Day in the Life The Beatles Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds The Beatles Ticket To Ride The Beatles Obla Di, Obla Da Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses Knockin' on Heaven's Door Arthur Brown Fire Blue Oyster Cult Burnin' For You Paul McCartney and Wings Live and Let Die Jimmy Hendrix Hey Joe Jackson Brown Doctor My Eyes John Mellencamp Crumbling Down John Mellencamp I'm On Fire U2 Sunday Bloody Sunday Boston Smokin Billy Joel Only the Good Die Young Barry McGuire Eve of Destruction Steam Na Na Na Na Hey Hey Drifters On Broadway Shelly Fabares Johnny Angel Los Bravos Black is Black Peter and Gordon I Go To Pieces Peter and Gordon A World Without Love Elvis (You're the) Devil in Disguise Zombies She's Not There Elton John Benny The Jets Elton John Daniel Elton John Rocket Man Jerry Lee Lewis Great Balls of Fire Santana Evil Ways Louis Armstrong What A Wonderful World Youngbloods Get Together Ad Libs The Boy from New York City Peter Paul and Mary Blowin' in the Wind Peter Paul and Mary Leavin' on a Jet Plane Rolling Stones Ruby Tuesday Simon And Garfunkel Bridge Over Troubled Water Happenings See You in Septemeber Carole King I Feel the Earth Move Yager and Evans In the Year 2525 Norman Greenbaum Spirit in the Sky Brooklyn Bridge Worst That Could Happen Three Degrees When Will I See You Again Cat Stevens Peace Train Cat Stevens Morning Has Broken Jan and Dean Dead Man's Curve Martha the Vandellas Nowhere to Run Martha and the Vandellas/Van Halen Dancing in the Streets Hollies He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother San Cooke Herman Hermits, Wonder World Petula Clark A Sign of the Times Don McLean American Pie J. Frank Wilson Last Kiss Buddy Holly and the Crickets That'll Be the Day John Lennon Imagine Bobby Darin Mack the Knife The Clash Rock the Casbah Surfaris Wipeout Blood Sweat and Tears And When I Die Dave Clark Five Bits and Pieces Tramps Disco Inferno Paper Lace The Night Chicago Died Frank Sinatra New York, New York Creedence Clearwater Revival Travelin' Band The Gap Band You Dropped a Bomb On Me Alien Ant Farm Smooth Criminal 3 Doors Down Duck and Run The Doors The End Third Eye Blind Jumper Neil Diamond America Lenny Kravitz Fly Away Tom Petty Free Fallin' Bruce Springsteen I'm On Fire Bruce Springsteen Goin' Down Phil Collins In the Air Tonight Alice in Chains Rooster Alice in Chains Sea of Sorrow Alice in Chains Down in a Hole Alice in Chains Them Bone Beastie Boys Sure Shot Beastie Boys Sabotage The Cult Fire Woman Everclear Santa Monica Filter Hey Man, Nice Shot Foo Fighters Learn to Fly Korn Falling Away From Me Red Hot Chili Peppers Aeroplane Red Hot Chili Peppers Under the Bridge Smashing Pumpkins Bullet With Butterfly Wings System of a Down Chop Suey! Skeeter Davis End of the World Rickey Nelson Travelin' Man Chi-Lites Have You Seen Her Animals We Gotta Get Out of This Place Fontella Bass Rescue Me Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels Devil with the Blue Dress James Taylor Fire and Rain Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein War Lynyrd Skynyrd Tuesday's Gone Limp Bizkit Break Stuff Green Day Brain Stew Temple of the Dog Say Hello to Heaven Sugar Ray Fly Local H Bound for the Floor Slipknot Left Behind, Wait and Bleed Bush Speed Kills 311 Down Stone Temple Pilots Big Bang
[CTRL] declass docs website urls
-Caveat Lector- Hi all. if youre interested in checking out more declass docs and dont yet have these urls, then: many: http://intellnet.org/mkultra/ small selection: http://www2.dmci.net/users/casey Gary. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Well ain't this fun . . . CTRL and ctrl
-Caveat Lector- Yes, indeedy do, seems like aol's listserver is up. They sure didn't let me no anything as usual. My suggestion is that we keep both trains running. A person may go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl and make it so one doesn't receive emails, and if one includes the yahoo groups address in a group with aol listserv it will also create another archive. ? Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Myth of The Liberal Media
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/myths.html - The Liberal Media and other right-wing myths · Christian Historical Revisionism · Dr. Laura · Christian Coalition · Religious Freedom Amendment · Judicial Activism · Promise Keepers · Southern Baptist Convention · Family Research Council · American Family Association · Concerned Women for America · Eagle Forum · Operation Rescue · Christian Action Network · American Center for Law and Justice · Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights · Citizens for Excellence in Education · Education · The Marriage Law Project · Ex-gay ministries · Jerry Falwell · Gary Bauer · Pat Robertson · Bob Barr · Tom Delay Right-Wing Myths Exposed (a work in progress) The Myth of The Liberal Media Beyond the 2000 Election, this conservative media tilt has become a dominant reality in modern U.S. politics. The imbalance also was not an accident. It resulted from a conscious, expensive and well-conceived plan by conservatives to build what amounts to a rapid-response media machine. This machine closely coordinates with Republican leaders and can strongly influence - if not dictate - what is considered news. The Media Is the Mess (July 17, 2001 article) I admit it -- the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures. William Kristol, as reported by the New Yorker, 5/22/95 In the west, 10 or 20 years, there has been massive research documenting the fact that the media are extraordinarily subordinated to external power. Now, when you have that power, the best technique is to ignore all of that discussion, ignore it totally, and to eliminate it, by the simple device of asserting the opposite. If you assert the opposite, that eliminates mountains of evidence demonstrating that what you are saying is false. That's what power means. And the way we assert the opposite is by just saying that the media are liberal. Noan Chomsky, in FSTV's documentation The Myth Of The Liberal Media Based on its recent direct-mail campaign, one of the [Leadership Institute's] primary fund- raising strategies is to convince conservative donors that its graduates can neutralize what it regards as left-leaning news media. Liberal media bias is out of control, said the letter, which was mailed over [Rep. J.C.] Watts's signature, but which [the institute's founder and president] Mr. Blackwell said was written at the institute. It's indecent. It's time you and I did something about it. When asked for examples of how bias by news organizations was undermining the presidency of George W. Bush, Mr. Blackwell complained about what he described as excessive press attention paid to Mr. Bush's critics, like Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. An alumna of the institute, who was recommended by Mr. Blackwell, found it difficult to cite cases of out of control liberal bias in recent news coverage. I have been in local TV newsrooms in Phoenix, Seattle and Pittsburgh, and I don't think there is bias, either liberal or conservative, said the alumna, Tallee Whitehorn, 27, an assistant news director at WTAE- TV, an ABC affiliate in Pittsburgh. This is not really a place for it, unless I wanted to get a lot of hate mail, which I don't. The young people in Mr. Montini's class were also hard-pressed to come up with examples of the news- media bias mentioned in Mr. Watts's fund-raising letter. Mr. Tietz said he had been sensitized to such matters in recent months by reading conservative books, including Whitaker Chambers's Witness. That book, Mr. Tietz said, explains the deep-down meanness of the left. But as for seeing that meanness in coverage of President Bush, Mr. Tietz said, Honestly, I haven't noticed it one way or another. from a June 11, 2001 New York Times article on the Leadership Institute (a training camp for conservative journalists) titled In Virginia, Young Conservatives Learn How to Develop and Use Their Political Voices For conservatives of every persuasion, it is a self-evident truth that the mass media are liberally biased. As a proud liberal myself, I wish it was true: where are those liberal TV channels? Could I please sign up for them? All I get on my satelite system are center-right channels such as CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, and far-right channels such as the we distort, you deride, Fox News, owned by equally far-right media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, and assorted christian nutball channels such as the Trinity Broadcasting Network or Pat Robertson's The 700 Club, carried by Fox Family. Believing in freedom of speech, I do not mind that far-right viewpoints are presented on TV on a daily basis. What I strongly object to is that these viewpoints are not balanced by equally far-left viewpoints. Most pundits who are nominally liberal are in fact centrists. Fox News' Hannity Colmes is a good case in point: Sean Hannity is tagged as the conservative on the show, while Alan Colmes is
[CTRL] Fwd: The Rise of Osama bin Laden - U.S. Footprints Everywhere
---BeginMessage--- ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\©http://www.MiddleEast.Org To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOW BIN LADEN BECAME TERRORIST #1 MID-EAST REALITIES © - MER - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 10/03: A decade ago Osama bin Laden first took up his own crusade against the USA after the Americans set up permanent bases in Saudi Arabia, rather than leaving the Kingdom at the end of the Gulf War as the Saudis had initially been assured. Half a decade ago it was also the Americans who were instrumental in forcing bin Laden out of Sudan and letting him go to Afghanistan, a place he knew well because of his role in the Afghan/U.S.war against the Soviet empire. And a few years ago it was the Americans that lit the long fuse that was to explode on 11 September when they trained and hired hit teams to kill bin Laden after failing to do so with a volley of some 66 cruise missiles. On matters of this kind the investigative capabilities of The Washington Post are considerable, nearly always after some issue has captured the American agenda. Important investigative reporting and insights from today's Washington Post: U.S. Was Foiled Multiple Times in Efforts To Capture Bin Laden or Have Him Killed CIA Trained Pakistanis to Nab Terrorist but Military Coup Put an End to 1999 Plot By Bob Woodward and Thomas E. Ricks Washington Post Staff Writers [The Washington Post - Wednesday, 3 October 3 2001; Page 1]: In 1999, the CIA secretly trained and equipped approximately 60 commandos from the Pakistani intelligence agency to enter Afghanistan for the purpose of capturing or killing Osama bin Laden, according to people familiar with the operation. The operation was arranged by then-Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his chief of intelligence with the Clinton administration, which in turn promised to lift sanctions on Pakistan and provide an economic aid package. The plan was aborted later that year when Sharif was ousted in a military coup. The plan was set in motion less than 12 months after U.S. cruise missile strikes against bin Laden's training camps in Afghanistan that Clinton administration officials believe narrowly missed hitting the exiled Saudi militant. The clandestine operation was part of a more robust effort by the United States to get bin Laden than has been previously reported, including consideration of broader military action, such as massive bombing raids and Special Forces assaults. It is a record of missed opportunities that has provided President Bush and his administration with some valuable lessons as well as a framework for action as they draw up plans for their own war against bin Laden and his al Qaeda network in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington. The Pakistani commando team was up and running and ready to strike by October 1999, a former official said. It was an enterprise, the official said. It was proceeding. Still stung by their failure to get bin Laden the previous year, Clinton officials were delighted at the operation, which they believed provided a real opportunity to eliminate bin Laden. It was like Christmas, a source said. The operation was aborted on Oct. 12, 1999, however, when Sharif was overthrown in a military coup led by Gen. Pervez Musharraf, who refused to continue the operation despite substantial efforts by the Clinton administration to revive it. Musharraf, now Pakistan's president, has emerged as a key ally in the Bush administration's efforts to track down bin Laden and destroy his terrorist network. The record of the CIA's aborted relationship with Pakistan two years ago illustrates the value -- and the pitfalls -- of such an alliance in targeting bin Laden. Pakistan and its intelligence service have valuable information about what is occurring inside Afghanistan, a country that remains closed to most of the world. But a former U.S. official said joint operations with the Pakistani service are always dicey, because the Taliban militia that rules most of Afghanistan has penetrated Pakistani intelligence. You never know who you're dealing with, the former senior official said. You're always dealing with shadows. 'We Were at War' In addition to the Pakistan operation, President Bill Clinton the year before had approved additional covert action for the CIA to work with groups inside Afghanistan and with other foreign intelligence services to capture or kill bin Laden. The most dramatic attempt to kill bin Laden
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: SO WHO BENEFITED IF CHASE MANHATTEN/CITIBANK NOT OFF THE HOOK!!
---BeginMessage--- Brian, Silverstein had to make a 660 million dollar up front payment on the deal, I used to work for Merrill Lynch Hubbard and Integrated Resources. We would design these kinds of RE deals. Perhaps there was a public limited partnership to raise funds, or perhaps there was hypothecation of all of Silverstein's other holdings in order to secure the loan, or maybe somebody has mighty deep pockets. From what I know about Silverstein, it wasn't the latter. If he mortgaged the cash flow on the WTC to come up with the 660 million down payment or lined up some kind of syndicate of investors, highly unlikely in the market of the last 12 months, I do not know. However, somewhere in this process, a bank lent money. Do you really think that bank isn't going to recover every penny from an insurer? Banks must manage risk effectively just like any other business. As far as trading on 9/11/01, the incident happened before the market opened (9:30 am NY time), markets stayed closed for a week. The only trading that could have taken place on 9/11 was the Instinet or Island ECN pre-open trading (7:30 am). I don't think that is where the stink comes from. The unusual trading that took place the prior week or on 9/10/01 in stocks directly effected by the attack require closer scrutiny. However, if I am looking to make some strategic trades in specific stocks tied to some future event nobody but me knows about, I sure as hell wouldn't make big trades near the date of the event. I would have carefully covered my tracks so as to not draw alot of attention. Surely an investigation into insider trading is going to draw alot of attention because it leads directly to culpability for the attack, or at least, blood on your hands for not warning people of the attack. In either case, the party doing the unusual trading loses. Cui bono? For myself, the beneficiary in all of this is the government and the individuals who control it. People now gladly submit to all kinds of eavesdropping and monitoring, whereas they would have raised hell before. Certainly construction companies, defense contractors and security companies are going to have a banner year. Brian, in all honesty, outside of closing down the federal reserve, do you know of any event that would not in the long run result in more profit for Citibank and Chase? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Downing Quig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How wonderful the internet is that writings that appear at first glance to include all the bad guys but are really flimsy and wrong can be debunked in mere hours!! In the search for the answer to that most important of all questions after a crime --- WHO BENEFITED? --- your clarification serves many. I am never more grateful as when someone can show me where I have been wrong. I would like to hear from anyone who has better information than I have. I am constantly revising my working hypotheses because others are constantly showing me where I am wrong. They are what make my information what it is. Someone some as sharp as you should as an exercse in analysis should make one list of WINNERS and one list of LOSERS. Then we should start calling the top executives of each group to see what they know. I am told activity in the stock market in some areas was 100 times a regular day on Sept 11. Insurance Companies and Airlines on one list and Defense Companies on the other list is a beginning. Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Whether it was Silverstein or The Port Authority, the building would have been insured regardless. Do you really think it would have made any difference who owned it. Silverstein does not own it; instead he had a 99 year lease to collect the rents and maintain the site. Silverstein paid 660 million up front and was bound to pay the balance to 3.2 billion over the next 99 years. The deal made sense because Silverstein is a savvy NY real estate player and his organization would have moved much faster in terms of maximizing the profits on the site. I can tell you that since the WTC was finished in the early 70's, it always had leasing difficulties. The state of NY kept a lot of government offices in the towers. The offices were decorated in that tasteless plain vanilla civil service decor that literally drained the desire to make progress from your mind; however, in recent years with the roaring bull market and the addition of the World Financial Center, the site had those three qualities that make real estate quite valuable - location, location, location. Silverstein would have never considered demolition of the site to erect a new structure. Chappy is so far off on this that I wouldn't even dignify his assertion by talking further about it. Here is a structure that is 30 years old; it has 200+ 50,000 square foot floors in the very heart of the financial district of the most important business location on the planet.
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: SO WHO BENEFITED IF CHASE MANHATTEN/CITIBANK NOT OFF THE HOOK!!
-Caveat Lector- I must put in here again, Silverstein essentially DID own it with a 99 year lease. You see it was illegan for the Port Authority and Giuliano and the Govenor in on this deal, to sell the World Trade centers..so they circumvented the law. But check further on this Silverstein in Israel for this board over there virtually kicked him out. The fact remains the next day after the demolition of this World Trade Center, he had new plans on the drawing board. He had had trouble making the money, he owed 25 million or so in taxes not yet resolved and now poof - cui bono? Also Wall Street - these idiots wanted to move Wall Street to this World Trade Center. Look at what could have happened. Hey the bible it was about gold and monotheism in 2500 BC? Right? A time to live and a time to die, a time to ter down and a time to rebuild at taxpayers expense? Who really paid for the World Trade Center? this building belonged to the people, didn't it? And who paid for it in blood.the people. The Slaughter of the Innocents who like Waco didn't survive the sting of the scorpions. You know those missiles are called stingers.and one is Hellsfire.lovely names - like this stupid Operation Habakkuk stuff? How about Operation Expose and get the one's really behind this sting operation on the World Trade Center? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Well ain't this fun . . . CTRL and ctrl
-Caveat Lector- I think we should keep only one of them. It s better to have the list in a central way and not to sparse it. It will be easier for you as administrator and for us not to receive the mails twice [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/01 12:53 -Caveat Lector- Yes, indeedy do, seems like aol's listserver is up. They sure didn't let me no anything as usual. My suggestion is that we keep both trains running. A person may go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl and make it so one doesn't receive emails, and if one includes the yahoo groups address in a group with aol listserv it will also create another archive. ? Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Well ain't this fun . . . CTRL and ctrl
-Caveat Lector- Rich Slick has or had two such lists - one for those who liked to read a lot and not write and one for those who want to write and to read...it suited the overflow. Only thing to worry about would be double entries.. Maybe Rich Slick would have a few pointers on this - but if one joins both lists, you get double mail often. I dropped off Rich Slick too much religious crap and no conspiracy to amount to anything, though I always liked Rich Slick and his online Troll. Anyway times are really serious now and all last year the FEDS let people think this was millennium year? This is year of Millennium and the bible prophecies must be fulfilled and as Sharon said - hey he rules the world, we have put Israel over the USA and this Zionist thing is attempting to wag the dog? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Is Irving Moskowitz a hero or just a rogue? (9-26-1997)
-Caveat Lector- well neuropsychotic you better look up the real meaning of Jihud. And then look who the ADL and Bnai Brith is in bed with for it is the Murder Inc. left over by Meyer Lansky - remember Meyer for Moskowitz seems to have taken over where he left off. Now consider his little playmate Silverstein.and I can see why Zionists have made the Jews the most hated people and they want to direct this hatred to the Arabs? Sharon in trouble yesterday saying America under his control? So today Israelis all Israelis it is said went down in airplane. More sympathy? I remember the Thothmosis II the great Egypitian Plane that suicided? The hated enemies of the jews aboard, top military and it was then the great celebration was cancelled. Well listen neuropsychotic Jihud is forever because the Zionists want it that way - play one against the other. How many of those jews over there can prove their pedigreees? They aren't even semites? As Prince Turki Faisal told me, and those seated at our table - the DOMESTIC jews and arabs and christians, the real SEMITES wanted to live in peace and this murdering sadistic pack of killers called Zionists would not let them. So much for Orde Wingate and his Gideon Forcesa man who tried to suicide himself? We knew 30 years ago that Zionists had control over the crazies and came in many disguises and one of their first of great notoriety, was the little Rosicrucian Sirhan Sirhanso much for black roses. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CT: Often abused, laws called `poisonous' [Secret evidence bill ra...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/4/01 8:06:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They say the bill would permit someone to be held indefinitely if the attorney general has reason to believe that the suspect poses a threat, and that determination would not be subject to judicial review. Such powers would be unprecedented in modern times, they say. Gee, just like under Joe Stalin. Prudy Most dangerous idea. Bad, bad dog, bad! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Stop UN Prosecution of our troops
-Caveat Lector- Well maybe it is about time we accidently dropped some bombs on some of these bastards that would attempt to destroy this country and its constitution. The UN is nothing but a Zulu Nation where we have one vote - cards stacked against us, an we would be dealt Aces and Eights so long as we continue membership. UN used to be a good dream to many when it was Camelot, but today it is nothing but Cess Pool and just plain trashy - So now you know why we sent in Shirley Temple.. It would seem they like to wave red flag in front of the Damnyankees and the Southern Cross - they better watch their step for America while slow to anger, when it does anger - some of these assholes will go bury themselves before we do Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: It's all about the O word!
---BeginMessage--- It's all about the O word! http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=10127 Caspian Oil and Gas: Challenges and Rewards http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html Compelling support to the frame-up theory http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html WTC - Japanese website with two new videos http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=10097 Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your HONOR. That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - Mark Twain http://www.apfn.org/old/apfncont.htm ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] CT: Often abused, laws called `poisonous' [Secret evidence bill ra...
-Caveat Lector- Talk about omens - nice doggie. Prudy I bougoht these two beautiful sheepskin rugs ..from New Zealand. So, a little while ago I looked in the dining room and there stood my dog Maxwell and she had scooted under the rug and was standing there with the sheepskin over her..she did not try to shake it off like a smart dog would do - she trailed around with it until it fell off. It was then that I saw a great truth - Pit Bulls or Wolves in sheep clothing. Maybe my dog is psychic? Was she trying to tell me something? Anyway it was funny.Bad doggie.last night she was lying in the center of one and I said that is a no no, bad doggie. Speaking of wolves in sheepskins.wonder what Bill Clinton is doing these days - he looked scared but Giuliano was succoring Hilliary and she was laughing and smiling as the great pretender who cut the deal with the World Trade Center, smilled, and smiled and smiles. I hummed How Great Thou Art, all evening. O'Saba Who can tell the difference between the Sheep and the Pack. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] is this thing on?
-Caveat Lector- thew asked, isthis thing on? Did you pull it in? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) RE: [AlasBabylon] The End Game
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- I found this article very interesting. Thanks for posting it. From: alypius m. skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:52 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[AlasBabylon] The End Game http://www.ddc.net/ygg/new/clips.htm The End Game September 14, 2001 That collector from Northern Virginia who introduced me to Sir Arthur Keith has admonished me to outline for you the debate going on in the halls of government between various factions of the inner party. Op Ed pieces are beginning to appear in our national newspapers which reflect that debate. Numerous articles are floating the trial balloon of ending stateswhich harbor terrorists. In addition, several other press organs are breathing life back into a notion born of our most excellent imperial adventure over the skies of Serbia. In the words of an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal of 9-14-01, any state that harbors or abets terrorists - or abuses its own citizens - forfeits its sovereign rights. In order to examine exactly what such a statement might mean in actual practice we must understand that the attack on the twin towers in Manhattan occurs within the context of a clearly defined imperial structure of rewards and punishments. The multi-racial empire of the old Soviet Union fragmented into its ethnic and racial components (collapsed to a lower order of complexity) because its centrally planned economy could not provide enough tangible benefits to all the constituent groups within that empire to purchase their continued allegiance. The young turks of the KGB decided that they would be better off and have more power with a smaller, ethnically cohesive Russian nation state. See Pillar 7, The Collapse of Complex Societiesby Joseph Tainter. The same exact thing will happen to the United States if the empire can no longer provide tangible benefits to its citizens that justify the expense of the imperial adventure. And the expense of maintaining that empire has just increased dramatically - at least $20 billions in lost real estate, a $40 billion anti-terrorism appropriation, plus untold costs associated with shutting down air travel and the financial markets for a week. Until now, the empire has been ruled by a financial system of rewards and punishments. The American consumer benefits from imports manufactured with cheap foreign labor. In addition, American consumers benefit from the availability of cheap credit to purchase those goods - cheap credit made possible by the recycling of the dollars we pay for those imported goods back into U.S. securities by the importing countries. Because of this basic circular money flow, Americans have been allowed to consume far beyond their means for decades, and it feels good. It is one hell of a seductive arrangement. In addition, our intellectual property laws (patent and copyright) guarantee a stream of payments from our trading partners in perpetuity that resemble tribute, and guarantee that our trading partners within the empire can never compete with the U.S. on an equal economic footing. Indeed, we cripple their ability to innovate and obtain patents of their own by hiring away their best and brightest at our overseas subsidiaries (thereby gaining ownership of their innovations) and by removing talented innovators from their native lands through 16(b) visas and immigration. Our trading partners are, in effect, permanent vassal states. Now you might reasonably ask, why do they put up with this unbalanced system? First, they are reasonably comfortable for the time being, largely because the United States debt balloon provides them with a large export market which allows them to provide employment for their people. Second, because the dollar is used to settle so many trade transactions between nations other than the United States, non-U.S. participants in the empire are forced to hold very large dollar reserves - meaning that they have no choice but to buy our debt - so that they can trade with other nations (buy oil). Third and last are the financial punishments. A number of countries possess cheap labor and compete for the U.S. export market. Thus, we have the power to reduce access or close our markets to one country and open them to another and invest in that other country simultaneously so as to shift production from the country being punished. Next, our Asian trading partners have much higher savings rates than we do, meaning that the capital structures of their companies must have much higher ratios of debt to equity than ours in order to absorb and utilize that pool of savings. Thus, they become vulnerable to sudden withdrawals of foreign capital and attacks on their currencies despite their high domestic savings rates because of the leverage that those high savings rates create in their domestic financial structures. The inner party has demonstrated on many occasions that they know how to pull the
Re: [CTRL] Hello Anybody There?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/4/01 8:18:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have only gotten one letter all day yesterday and all night today - just one letter? Anybody else having a problem? Did I tee anybody off? Saba Have you checked to see if you are pluged into the wall socket? Check your antenna and clean all the birdie do-do off it. Just some suggestions Bill I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to a vegetarian. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Play Sleuth with me!
---BeginMessage--- Title: theykne TRACKING THE ELUSIVE TRUTH WEB SOURCE ARTICLES edited by Anita Sands Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you were a mystery writer, say, an Agatha Christie chess brain, and were confronted with a pair of corpses, two very tall, well loved, glamorous, American TWINS) , you would review the clues with avidity wouldn't you? If you read every article in cyberspace, you would see, as researchers do, that U.S. spooks knew the two, beautiful twins were a.) scheduled to be offed, and b.) their death by fire would get you so crazy-flag-waving that they could put a long, long war before you and you'd bite down on it, hook and all. The USA, CIA, NSC, Joint Chiefs, George Senior, and Dick Cheney, KNEW the WTC attack was FINALLY, about to happen. You'll see it if you hold the following clues in mind all at once: 1) ECHELON spies gave U.S authorities a 3 month warning of attacks. A German paper reported U.S. and Israeli intelligence agencies received warning signals at least three months ago that terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols of American culture, according to a story in Germany's daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung http://wwwnewsbytes.com 2) The U.S. already in JULY 2001, had planned to attack the Taliban before the WTC/Pentagon attacks: a former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the U.S.A. was planning military action against Osama and the Taliban even before last weeks attacks. Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani foreign secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October. (BBC news 9-18-01) EVIDENCE THAT The USA already planned and attack on the Taliban. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_155/1550366.stm This former Paki diplomat told the BBC that the U.S was planning military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban even before last weeks attacks. Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani foreign secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October. Mr Naik said U.S. officials told him of the plan at a U.N. sponsored international, contact group on Afghanistan which took place in Berlin. He told the BBC that at the meeting the us representatives told him that unless Bin Laden was handed over swiftly, America would take military action to kill or capture both Bin Laden and the Taliban leader, Mullah Omar. The wider objective, according to Mr Naik, who is MIND YOU RETIRED and a PAKI, would be to topple the Taliban regime and install a transitional government of moderate (read manageable by US Oil men) Afghans in its place - possibly under the leadership of the former Afghan King Zahir Shah. Mr Naik was told that Washington would launch its operation from bases in Tajikistan, (implying full Ruski cooperation) where American advisers were already in place. He was told that Uzbekistanwould also participate in the operation and that 17,000 Russian troops were on standby to AID IN THIS SEIZURE. (!) (At this point your AGATHA CHRISTIE CUI BONUM machinery starts clicking and you realize that RUSSIA and USA had imperialist aims related to that sand pit, i.e. it was to be pipeline for OIL biz between the new Capitalistniks in the Aparatchik Formerly known as Russia and the combined Bush/Houston/Global Marine, Sta Fe Internat'l cum Kuwait forces, i.e. their brand new corporation, only weeks old, merged September 4th, 2001.) Naik had been told by his contacts that if the military action went ahead it would take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest. He said that he was in no doubt that after the world trade center bombings this pre-existing us plan had been built upon and would be implemented within two or three weeks and he said it was doubtful that Washington would drop its plan even if Bin Laden were to be surrendered immediately by the Taliban. 3.) Russia knew in advance...(obviously, see above) proven by fact IT encouraged citizens to cash out dollars: Russian press accounts and other activities by the russian government this summer indicate that the russians knew in advance that something would happen to america, including a "financial attack" against the u.s. during the past three months, russian media and officials have encouraged citizens to cash out of u.s. dollars pending an economic collapse there after an "attack." http://www/newsmax.com 9-17-01 4) The FBI tracked a PILOT TERRORIST (currently in custody) 2 weeks before attacks: "two weeks before the terrorist attacks in new york city and Washington, D.C., FBI agents were at a flight school in Oklahoma asking questions about a man now suspected of having a link to those attacks", according to CNN. "The fact that FBI agents were at the airman flight school in Norman, Oklahoma, two weeks before any
