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-Caveat Lector- From http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2002/567/in3.htm }}}Begin Al-Ahram Weekly Online 3 - 9 January 2002 Issue No.567 Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875 Current issue | Previous issue | Site map Elementary, my dear Musharraf The second war on terror in the space of a few months is gaining momentum, drawing in nuclear arch-rivals India and Pakistan. Beneath the rhetoric lies a classic murder-mystery. Who did it? Mukul Devichand puts on his detective hat Who staged 13 December's spectacular attack on India's parliament? The prime suspects, Kashmiri militants Jaish-e- Mohamed and Lashkar-e- Toiba, may be backed by more sinister paymasters. Pakistan's intelligence agency is in the dock, as is the Al-Qa'eda terror network and -- in one conspiracy theory -- India's electioneering government itself. Our first clue lies in recent history -- in this case, history repeating. The war on terror blueprint, fashioned in Washington and the Afghan hills, is now being played out in the subcontinent. Start with a master-crime against a cultural symbol, this time 13 December's gun attack on India's parliament. Loss of life notwithstanding -- 13 died at the Lok Sabha, 3,000 at the World Trade Centre -- the offended admi nistration in both cases invoked images of an Islamist global terror network flourishing, so India claimed, in dictatorship Pakistan. New Delhi has already made the familiar demand that Islamabad close the terror bases d own. Now the world is hoping that India's bluff -- backed by massive troop deployments and sanctions, matched by Pakistan -- will not be called. What's being obscured by these mists of regional politics, however, is the evidence at the scene of the attack. The crime itself was positively theatrical, in tune with the era of apparent master- villains like Osama Bin Laden. The scene opens with a pearly white car rolling up to parliament. Five men emerge, clad in military green commando fatigues and armed to the teeth. What follows is worthy of any Bollywood movie: a pitched gun- battle lasting 45 minutes, in which security forces narrowly save the day, sacrificing themselves in the fight. The foiled gunmen commit collective suicide. Within 48 hours, Indian police announce that the five gunmen were from Pakistan-based Jaish and Lashkar and New Delhi started verbal conflict with Islamabad. Wedged in by war on terror rhetoric, Pakistani President Mush arraf offered a joint inquiry and asked for evidence. New Delhi's obstinate refusal to cough up information matches Washington's rejection of the Taliban's similar request. But do we really know beyond doubt that Jaish an d Lashkar did it? Al- Ahram Weekly called India's Cairo embassy and asked precisely that. There has been accumulated evidence of the involvement of these groups not only in the attack on the Parliament but in previous incidents, was the response from the embassy spokesman. India is drawing parallels between this incident and past attacks by the same groups, but detailed evidence linking Jaish and Lashkar to 13 December is not being shared -- with the public or Pakistan. Still, we are left with a few pieces of credible evidence. Some of the five were Pakistani nationals, Delhi police say, and they used cell-phones to call a Delhi Arabic lecturer who, in turn, called militants in Pakistan. The markings on the weapons received from the site of attack point to their links to organisations across border, the Indian embassy spokesman told us. A sixth man was also apparently involved but has now escaped to Kashmir. With their usual flair, Indian newspapers are describing him as criminal mastermind Gazi Baba, now on the run with his wife Zamrooda, alias Baby. Gazi Baba may, in fact, be a code name used by the head of Jaish's Kashmir operations. He seems to have become a sort of a local Osama Bin Laden for India, reported Indian news-site Tehelka.com. Pakistan's swift freeze on Jaish and Lashkar assets may further implicate them -- although US pressure is more likely the cause. Pakistan has placed Jaish chief Maulana Masood Azhar and 20 followers under arrest. Urdu dai ly Ausaf was quick to claim that President Musharraf was simply grabbing a golden opportunity to jail his domestic critics. When we asked, Pakistan's Cairo embassy spokesman told the Weekly that Azhar's offence was simply possession of illegal weapons. But if the men in commando fatigues were in fact members of Lashkar or Jaish, we still face a deeper -- and important -- mystery. Were the attackers acting alone or following orders from above? The Indian government, eager to fight a war on terror, are claiming that both Al-Qa'eda and Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had a hand to play in the attack. Pakistan, for its part, strongly denies that Kas hmiri militants were trained in the former Afghan terror camps. Between Afghanistan and Kashmir are some of the world's highest
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Al-Ahram Weekly Online
3 - 9 January 2002
Issue No.567
Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875
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Mission to Baghdad
A ground-breaking visit to Baghdad by Arab League Secretary-General
Amr Moussa is in the works. Dina Ezzat reports
Amr Moussa
It may be in a few days, it may be in a few weeks, but Arab League
Secretary- General Amr Moussa is almost certain to arrive in Baghdad
for an official visit to the Iraqi capital. A fixed date for the
visit is yet to be decided but, as Arab diplomatic sources told Al-
Ahram Weekly, it is likely to take place sooner rather than later.
The Arab summit is scheduled to open in Beirut on 25 March, so by that date Moussa
will have visited Baghdad, the source said.
The visit will be aimed at demonstrating Arab support for the Iraqi people, though
urging the Iraqi government to spare no effort in working with the Kuwaitis and Saudis
to settle the file of POWs and ending more than a d
ecade of hostility will be high on Moussa's agenda.
This visit will be a message that all Arabs, without exception, are displeased by the
ongoing suffering of the Iraqi people and do not accept increasing this misery by any
measures under any name -- all Arab countries wa
nt to see the sanctions lifted from Iraq, one Arab League source said.
Iraq, a sensitive issue for Arab diplomacy since its invasion of Kuwait in August
1990, has yet to be fully re- integrated into the Arab fold. Diplomatic attempts to
improve the state of relations between Iraq and Kuwait,
in particular, and the other Arab countries in general, have yet to lead to a full
reconciliation. The last Arab summit in Amman dedicated attention to the matter and a
few lines were included in the Amman declaration an
d communiqué, urging the alleviation of the suffering of the Iraqi people who have
been living under stifling economic sanctions for over a decade. Despite this, no
agreement was reached on a potential reconciliation.
However, according to Assistant Arab League Secretary-General Ahmed Bin Heli, a clear
Arab stance has emerged that supports ending the suffering of the Iraqi people. All
Arab countries, Bin Heli added, agree that there is
a need to resume the dialogue between the Iraqi government and the UN over the
inspection of Iraq's weapons programme and modifying the terms of the oil-for- food
agreement.
But much has changed since 11 September. Iraq is now facing overt threats of military
action from the US as Washington extends its anti- terrorist campaign.
Moussa has been in contact with several senior US, UN, European and other officials
over the past three months in a bid to explain that an attack against Iraq or, for
that matter, any other Arab country whose association
to the September attacks has not been proven, would ignite Arab public anger. This is
the stance of all Arab states, Moussa declared.
The upcoming visit by Moussa to Baghdad will aim to send a message to all concerned
that Arab countries are opposed to any possible attacks against Iraq, one Arab
diplomat commented. According to another: Even the Kuwa
itis and Saudis, who make no secret of their discomfort with Saddam Hussein's regime,
say they are not comfortable with the idea of an attack against Iraq -- not with the
situation as volatile as it is in the occupied Pal
estinian territories and not with the images of misery in Iraq as flagrant as they
currently are.
Moussa's visit will be the first by an Arab League secretary-general to Baghdad since
Esmat Abdel-Meguid visited on 3 February 1999 in the wake of the US operation Desert
Fox which provoked such opposition across the Arab
world that an emergency Arab foreign ministers' meeting was convened.
At that meeting, and during subsequent Arab meetings, Moussa, then Egyptian foreign
minister, was instrumental in mobilising a consensus among Arab states to oppose
further attacks against Iraq. It is now Moussa's missio
n, as Arab League secretary- general, to go to Baghdad and voice Arab opposition to an
attack against Iraq, especially in view of the human consequences that it would lead
to, commented one Egyptian diplomat who requeste
d anonymity.
Meanwhile, on 29 December Baghdad declared that 1.6 million children had died as a
result of sanctions since 1990. And unease about those sanctions is growing. In the
US, late last month, an American NGO opposed to the co
ntinuation of the sanctions regime sent a letter to US President
George W Bush expressing its dismay with US policy on Iraq. The use
of sanctions, the letter argued, amount to using a weapon of mass
destruction against the Iraqi people.
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Moloch
(Hebrew Molech, king).
A divinity worshipped by the idolatrous Israelites. The Hebrew
pointing Molech does not represent the original pronunciation of the
name, any more than the Greek vocalization Moloch found in the LXX
and in the Acts (vii, 43). The primitive title of this god was very
probably Melech, king, the consonants of which came to be combined
through derision with the vowels of the word Bosheth, shame. As the
word Moloch (A.V. Molech) means king, it is difficult in several
places of the Old Testament to determine whether it should be
considered as the proper name of a deity or as a simple appellative.
The passages of the original text in which the name stands probably
for that of a god are Lev., xviii, 21; xx, 2-5; III (A. V. I) Kings,
xi, 7; IV (II) Kings, xxiii, 10; Is., xxx, 33; lvii, 9; Jer., xxxii,
35. The chief feature of Moloch's worship among the Jews seems to
have been the sacrifice of children, and the usual expression for
describing that sacrifice was to pass through the fire, a rite
carried out after the victims had been put to death. The special
centre of such atrocities was just outside of Jerusalem, at a place
called Tophet (probably place of abomination), in the valley of
Geennom. According to III (I) Kings, xi, 7, Solomon erected a
temple for Moloch on the hill over against Jerusalem, and on this
account he is at times considered as the monarch who introduced the
impious cult into Israel. After the disruption, traces of Moloch
worship appear in both Juda and Israel. The custom of causing one's
children to pass through the fire seems to have been general in the
Northern Kingdom [IV (II) Kings, xvii, 17; Ezech. xxiii, 37], and it
gradually grew in the Southern, encouraged by the royal example of
Achaz (IV Kings, xvi, 3) and Manasses [IV (II) Kings, xvi, 6] till it
became prevalent in the time of the prophet Jeremias (Jerem. xxxii,
35), when King Josias suppressed the worship of Moloch and defiled
Tophet [IV (II) Kings, xxiii, 13 (10)]. It is not improbable that
this worship was revived under Joakim and continued until the
Babylonian Captivity.
On the basis of the Hebrew reading of III (I) Kings, xi, 7, Moloch has often been
identified with Milcom, the national god of the Ammonites, but this identification
cannot be considered as probable: as shown by the Greek
Versions, the original reading of III (I) Kings, xi, 7, was not Molech but Milchom
[cf. also III (I) Kings, xi, 5, 33]; and according to Deut., xii, 29-31; xviii, 9-14,
the passing of children through fire was of Chanaani
te origin [cf. IV (II) Kings, xvi, 3]. Of late, numerous attempts have been made to
prove that in sacrificing their children to Moloch the Israelites simply thought that
they were offering them in holocaust to Yahweh. In
other words, the Melech to whom child-sacrifices were offered was Yahweh under another
name. To uphold this view appeal is made in particular to Jer., vii, 31; xix, 5, and
to Ezech., xx, 25-31. But this position is to say
the least improbable. The texts appealed to may well be understood otherwise, and the
prophets expressly treat the cult of Moloch as foreign and as an apostasy from the
worship of the true God. The offerings by fire, the
probable identity of Moloch with Baal, and the fact that in Assyria and Babylonia
Malik, and at Palmyra Malach-bel, were sun-gods, have suggested to many that Moloch
was a fire- or sun- god.
BAUDISSIN, Jahve et Moloch (Leipzig, 1874); SMITH, Religion of the Semites (London,
1894); SCHULTZ, Old Testament Theology, I (tr., Edinburgh, 1898); LAGRANGE, Etudes sur
les Religions Semitiques (Paris, 1903).
FRANCIS E. GIGOT
Transcribed by Kenneth M. Caldwell
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[CTRL] Churchill on an Issue of His Day
From http://www.corax.org/revisionism/documents/200208churchill.html }}}Begin ILLUSTRATED SUNDAY HERALD, FEBRUARY 8, 1920 ZIONISM versus BOLSHEVISM. A STRUGGLE FOR THE SOUL OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE. By the Re. Hon. WINSTON S. CHURCHILL Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world. Disraeli, the Jew Prime Minister of England, and Leader of the Conservative Party, who was always true to his race and proud of his origin, said on a well-known occasion: The Lord deals with the nations as the nations deal with the Jews. Certainly when we look at the miserable state of Russia, where of all countries in the world the Jews were the most cruelly treated, and contrast it with the fortunes of our own country, which seems to have been so providentially preserved amid the awful perils of these times, we must admit that nothing that has since happened in the history of the world has falsified the truth of Disraeli's confident assertion. Good and Bad Jews. The conflict between good and evil which proceeds unceasingly in the breast of man nowhere reaches such an intensity as in the Jewish race. The dual nature of mankind is nowhere more strongly or more terribly exemplified. We owe to the Jews in the Christian revelation a system of ethics which, even if it were entirely separated from the supernatural, would be incomparably the most precious possession of mankind, worth in fact the fruits o f all other wisdom and learning put together. On that system and by that faith there has been built out of the wreck of the Roman Empire the whole of our existing civilization. And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time he in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested , would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mysti c and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical. 'National' Jews. There can be no greater mistake than to attribute to each individual a recognizable share in the qualities which make up the national character. There are all sorts of men -- good, bad and, for the most part, indifferent -- in every country, and in every race. Nothing is more wrong than to deny to an individual, on account of race or origin, his right to be judged on his personal merits and conduct. In a people of peculiar genius like the Jews, contrasts are more vivid, the extremes are more widely separated, the resulting consequences are more decisive. At the present fateful period there are three main lines of political conception among the Jews. two of which are helpful and hopeful in a very high degree to humanity, and the third absolutely destructive. First there are the Jews who, dwelling in every country throughout the world, identify themselves with that country, enter into its national life and, while adhering faithfully to their own religion, regard themselves as citizens in the fullest sense of the State which has received them. Such a Jew living in England would say, I am an English man practising the Jewish faith. This is a worthy conception, and useful in the highest degree. We in Great Britain well know that during the great struggle the influence of what may be called the National Jews in many lands was cast preponderatingly on the side of the Allies; and in our own Army Jewish soldiers have played a most distinguished part, some rising to the command of armies, others winning the Victoria Cross for valour. The National Russian Jews, in spite of the disabilities under which they have suffered, have managed tn play an honorable and useful part in the national life even of Russia. As bankers and industrialists they have strenu ously promoted the development of Russia's economic resources, and they were foremost in the creation of those remarkable organizations, the Russian Co-operative Societies. In politics their support has been given, for th e most part, to liberal and progressive movements, and they have been among the staunchest upholder of friendship with France and Great Britain. International Jews. In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Je ws are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to
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-Caveat Lector- From http://www.pbs.org/empires/victoria/empire/characters.html }}}Begin Benjamin Disraeli When Benjamin Disraeli (1804- 1881) determined that his rising ambitions required a personal motto, he chose forti nihil difficile, or nothing is difficult to the strong. Strength of will, one assumes--for a Jew in pre-Victorian England had barriers before him that would have dissuaded most aspirants for status. Until 1829, Roman Catholics were disenfranchised, and could not hold public office or be involved in such professions as law. Universities were also closed to them. For Disraeli, born Benjamin D'Israeli in Bloomsbury, where his father was a dilettante man of letters, the path was smoothed by the nonbelieving Isaac, who, cynically, had his son converted, at twelve, to the Anglican persuasion, to open up opportunities. Always a romantic, Disraeli liked to believe that his ancestors were cultured Jews from Golden Age Spain, but in reality his grandfather had emigrated from Cento, in Italy near Ferrara, where he was a seller of straw hats. The family, before that, had probably come from Syria or Turkey. His recollections would sometimes claim Venice for his family. If their origins had to be in Italy, he preferred the most exotic of Italian places. He liked to think of himself as an aristocrat, even if not of the Anglo-Saxon variety. Technically, all England had to offer was open to Benjamin, but to Englishmen he was always a Jew-an identification he courted. Although it was a career liability, he refused to change either of his names but for excisin g the apostrophe. While he might have gone to a public school and then a university, he went instead to the law courts as an apprentice, then slipped into stock speculation, and bankruptcy. To make money he tried to conco ct a popular fiction, publishing, anonymously, in 1826, the satirical society novel Vivian Grey. For its epigraph he lifted a line from The Merry Wives of Windsor, Why, then the world's mine oyster / Which with my sword I'll open. The arrogance remained with him, but the book's initial success aborted abruptly when his identity as a youth utterly out of the social loop was exposed. Although he tried other novels, and would write fiction , often nakedly autobiographical, all his life, he fell into severe depression, coming out of it after he went, with a friend, on a Middle Eastern tour that included the Holy Land, about which he wrote in Alroy (1831). Pa radoxically, the melodramatic novel, heatedly overwritten, about a pre-Zionist adventurer and martyr, David Alroy, glorified Disraeli's Jewish background just as he was adventuring in another career, politics, at a time w hen observant Jews were barred from Parliament. In his flamboyant style, which he advertised also in his Byronic dress and open (and successful) womanizing, he was announcing that there was no way the issue of his origins would not come up directly rather than through innuendo if the candidate for the House of Commons were named Benjamin Disraeli. Undaunted by losses in campaigns for several seats, Disraeli tried again in 1837, the year of Victoria's accession, and was elected as a Tory (Conservative). The party was traditionally protectionist regarding agricultur al products, however that drove up the price of bread for the poor, as Tories represented the landed interests. Their powers then were being eroded by manufacturing and mercantile interests, both in the Whiggish (Liberal) hands of the burgeoning middle classes who stood to gain from freer trade and electoral reform that would enfranchise the industrial cities. Disraeli promoted a nostalgic and largely unrealistic Tory feudalism, a Merrie England that revolved about attachment to the land through the institutions of Monarchy, Aristocracy, and Church, and their noblesse oblige toward a peasantry he saw as including the new industrial work force. A compuls ive novelist, he dramatized his sentimental Toryism, called by others Young England, through a trilogy of novels, Coningsby, Sybil, and Tancred (1844-47) that also earned for him desperately needed money. To pay his inc reasing debts due to his election debts and his high lifestyle, he had already married the eccentric, off-the-wall, Mary Anne Wyndham Lewis, widow of his late campaigning partner, more than a dozen years his senior. She i dolized him and he reciprocated her affection. Surprisingly, the marriage worked. But he seemed always in debt. Disraeli Hulton Getty Picture Archive The Tories would fragment on the issue of free trade, and Disraeli, a loyalist, inherited some of the remaining prominence within the party. On becoming a minority government in 1852, he would achieve cabinet office for the first time, as Chancellor of the Exchequer. The experience was brief, but it whetted his appetite for power and position, which left him in a quandary as the Commons debated, year after year, the issue of
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Bibliographical Information: Secret Societies and Subversive
Movements, by Nesta H. Webster, Paperback, A B Book Pub, 1994,
ISBN: 1881316882.
Author's Stated Purpose of Book:Webster undertakes one of the classic
studies of Secret Societies, their origins, their purposes, and their
evolution throughout the centuries. Secret Societies originated
Secret Societies, promising hidden, or esoteric knowledge that
could only be gained by the Initiate, and kept from the common
people, also known as the Profane. Author shows the Ancient
progression of secret societies, from Egypt, to the Jewish Cabbala,
to the counterfeit Christian group, The Essenes and the Gnostics, to
the European secret societies. He shows the key common
characteristics of all secret societies, of every age and continent.
He also shows that all speculative secret societies are religions,
based upon good works performed by men who are striving for
perfection.
Key Points: 1) Jewish Pharisees were participants in an occultic
secret society, and that is one of the key reasons they so forcefully
rejected Jesus Christ; in the 13th Century, this secret society was
known as the Cabbala; 2) Author probes the origins of Freemasonry,
the links between Rosicrucianism, the Templars, and the Illuminati.
3) Webster traces the beginnings of the infusion of radical
revolution into the traditional doctrines of Freemasonry in the
latter 1700's; 4) Webster shows that the modern secret societies, led
by Freemasonry, are acting according to a plan to undermine social
and moral order, and above all, Christian civilization. [P. 403] 5)
Modern secret societies are Illuminist [Luciferian], but are based
upon the Jewish Cabbala, and are being led by German interests, with
mighty American support. 6) All secret societies in the modern era
have but one common goal: the eradication of all nation states, and
the establishment of one global government and the worship of the
occult.
Significance of Book; Contribution Book Makes: Demonstrates that the power behind the
secret societies of every age and continent is supernatural. For behind the concrete
forces of revolution ... beyond that invisible se
cret circle which perhaps directs them all, is there not yet another force, still more
potent ... In looking back over the centuries at the dark episodes that have marked
the history of the human race ... strange and horr
ible cults, waves of witchcraft, blasphemies, and desecrations, how is it possible to
ignore the existence of an Occult Power at work in the world?
If Information Is Not New, Does It Break New Ground? It demonstrates the linkage of
Ancient Secret Societies of Egypt, and Israel, with the modern Secret Societies, like
Freemasonry, and shows that their goal is global di
ctatorial government, and the worship of the Occult. Webster demonstrates the support
Lenin and his forces received from German Freemasonry sources within the German
military of World War I.
Verification From Other Sources: Many other New Age books speak of some of the same
conspiracies but none puts it all together like this one.
Recommendation: We highly recommend this book to the serious student
of secret societies and the coming New World Order. You will
understand the significance of Communism and the secret societies,
and its relation to the coming New World Order.
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[CTRL] Taliban leader 'escapes hideout on motorbike'
-Caveat Lector- OK, this was not unexpected. Omar and bin Laden will either never show up, and possibly then be somehow declared dead, or they will find bodies so torn up and mutilated that there will be no conclusive proof. Think the bin Laden family would subject themselves to DNA samples to test a body? Hmmm ... But this is weird. Omar reportedly escaped on a motorbike with four of his men ... on *one* motorbike ... with four other men. Were they running alongside the bike, or were they on the handlebars, side-saddle and all that, like a clown bicycle in a circus? Maybe I'm being too pedantic, but really ... Omar escaped with four of his men on a (singular) motorbike ... ??? Even if I'm being nitpicky, and that the motorbike merely implies the vehicle which Omar himself used, with the others perhaps having their own, it still conjured up a funny picture in my mind. And, at the very least, it illustrates a startling lack of intelligence on our part and/or incomplete reporting on how the whole band of five might have traveled, or that this is just another aspect of the media-govt shell game underway now that the exciting part of the war is over in Afghanland ... Hey, even Rumsfeld has said we may never find bin Laden, so why not lump in Omar with that variable? I suspect that, if they are dead, this is part of the strategy - no martyr, no martyrdom vengeance, right? Meanwhile the warlords are still impsing Sharia law, but with a bit more compassion - hanged bodies will only be on display for 15 minutes, not four days, and stonings are to be done with smaller rocks; poppy production is back in full tilt, and aid shipment lootings and chaos are growing. Thank goodness that nasty Taliban is gone. - jt --- from - http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1743000/1743813.stm Saturday, 5 January, 2002, 08:32 GMT Mullah Omar 'flees on motorbike' Taleban militia leader Mullah Mohammad Omar has escaped from his hideout in southern Afghanistan on a motorbike, according to an Afghan official. The head of intelligence in Kandahar, Haji Gulalai, told the BBC that all the Taleban sympathisers around the area of Baghran in the Helmand province had surrendered to anti-Taleban forces. But the whereabouts of Mullah Omar - who apparently escaped with four sympathisers - are not known. The BBC's Richard Miron, who is in the Afghan capital Kabul, says it has not been confirmed that Mullah Omar was in the Baghran area - and his reported escape adds to confusion about his fate. The surrender of Taleban sympathisers in the area, who were able to go free after handing over their weapons, was brokered during the last few days in negotiations with local tribal leaders. Our correspondent says their submission appears to indicate the weakness of the remnants of the Taleban movement in the country. Earlier, it emerged that an American soldier had been killed in combat in Afghanistan - the first US serviceman to die from hostile fire since the American military campaign that toppled the Taleban regime began nearly three months ago. He was killed during an exchange of gunfire near the town of Khost in the east of the country, near the border with Pakistan. The US general in charge of the Afghan campaign, Tommy Franks, said the soldier was part of a special forces team liaising with local tribal forces. General Franks added that his death showed the dangerous nature of mopping up operations against the Taleban and their allies, Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda terror network. Bin Laden is accused of masterminding the 11 September suicide attacks on New York and Washington that sparked the US military campaign. Afghanistan's interim leader, Hamid Karzai, has committed his government to capturing Mullah Omar. We are looking for him, Mullah Omar. He is a criminal of an international standard and he should be delivered. If the US wants him, we will deliver him to the United States, Mr Karzai told the American ABC news. Mr Karzai also said he supported the continuing bombardment of suspected Taleban and al-Qaeda sites by the US. Primarily I want the war against terrorism to continue. This is a pledge we have made to the Afghan people - to free them from terrorism, he said. But he cautioned: We want our civilians not to be caught in the middle of fighting between our forces and the terrorists, or the American bombings and terrorism. Al-Qaeda compound The US says it is continuing to bomb a suspected al-Qaeda compound in the Khost region, near the border with Pakistan. The Pakistan-based Afghan Islamic Press news agency reported that the air strikes had killed 32 people, quoting witnesses as saying the bombing was so intense that residents had no chance to remove bodies. The same compound was attacked in August 1998 following the bombings of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. It has been a place where the al-Qaeda goes to regroup, said General Richard Myers, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff. He
Re: [CTRL] Taliban leader 'escapes hideout on motorbike'
-Caveat Lector- On 5 Jan 02, at 1:59, Joshua Tinnin wrote: But this is weird. Omar reportedly escaped on a motorbike with four of his men ... on *one* motorbike ... with four other men. Not so weird. Maybe he was a Humble Pie fan. AER A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] N Webster
A fairly good review with one glaring exception. Nesta Webster was a woman! HomeBooksAuthorsOrderContact Author's Biography: Nesta Webster Mrs. Webster was a respected English historian from around the time of the First Word War. She was a member of British high society, the wife of the Superintendent of the English Police, and the granddaughter of a Bishop.She received a rigorous public school education. Considering her background, it is not surprising that her views and writing style reflected her times. --- Her works provide excellent examples of "conservative" English thought and writing from the early years of the twentieth century. She did her research using primary source materials in the British Museum and the Bibliothetique Nationale in France. She wrote about a half-a-dozen history books and, also, several works of fiction. Secret Societies and Subversive Movements may be her most substantive work The French Revolution may be her best written. Her books have been highly acclaimed for almost a century. They have been influential in defining the "conservative" viewpoint. Thus, they are not only about history, but are part of history themselves. H.G. Wells recognized that, almost a century ago, and it remains true, today. So, whether you agree with what Mrs. Webster says or not, these are important works. And they are well written, too. We have included her works among the books we carry as they are among the relatively few good serious works on the origins of the liberal agenda. This was also why, Secret Societies was the single book most often cited by Dr. Crittenden in his book Politics of Change. - Original Message - From: Euphorian To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 4:46 AM Subject: [CTRL] N Webster -Caveat Lector-Fromhttp://www.cuttingedge.org/review/rv137.html}}}BeginCutting Edge Book ReviewBibliographical Information: "Secret Societies and SubversiveMovements", by Nesta H. Webster, Paperback, A B Book Pub, 1994,ISBN: 1881316882.Author's Stated Purpose of Book:Webster undertakes one of the classicstudies of Secret Societies, their origins, their purposes, and theirevolution throughout the centuries. Secret Societies originatedSecret Societies, promising hidden, or "esoteric" knowledge thatcould only be gained by the "Initiate", and kept from the commonpeople, also known as the "Profane". Author shows the Ancientprogression of secret societies, from Egypt, to the Jewish Cabbala,to the counterfeit Christian group, The Essenes and the Gnostics, tothe European secret societies. He shows the key commoncharacteristics of all secret societies, of every age and continent.He also shows that all speculative secret societies are religions,based upon good works performed by men who are striving for"perfection".Key Points: 1) Jewish Pharisees were participants in an occulticsecret society, and that is one of the key reasons they so forcefullyrejected Jesus Christ; in the 13th Century, this secret society wasknown as the Cabbala; 2) Author probes the origins of Freemasonry,the links between Rosicrucianism, the Templars, and the Illuminati.3) Webster traces the beginnings of the infusion of radicalrevolution into the traditional doctrines of Freemasonry in thelatter 1700's; 4) Webster shows that the modern secret societies, ledby Freemasonry, are acting according to a plan to "undermine socialand moral order, and above all, Christian civilization". [P. 403] 5)Modern secret societies are Illuminist [Luciferian], but are basedupon the Jewish Cabbala, and are being led by German interests, withmighty American support. 6) All secret societies in the modern erahave but one common goal: the eradication of all nation states, andthe establishment of one global government and the worship of theoccult.Significance of Book; Contribution Book Makes: Demonstrates that the power behind the secret societies of every age and continent is supernatural. "For behind the concrete forces of revolution ... beyond that invisible secret circle which perhaps directs them all, is there not yet another force, still more potent ... In looking back over the centuries at the dark episodes that have marked the history of the human race ... strange and horrible cults, waves of witchcraft, blasphemies, and desecrations, how is it possible to ignore the existence of an Occult Power at work in the world?"If Information Is Not New, Does It Break New Ground? It demonstrates the linkage of Ancient Secret Societies of Egypt, and Israel, with the modern Secret Societies, like Freemasonry, and shows that their goal is global dictatorial government,
Re: [CTRL] Taliban leader 'escapes hideout on motorbike'
-Caveat Lector- Is there a way to adequately express a *groooaaan*? Still, good one :) - jt - Original Message - From: Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 5 Jan 02, at 1:59, Joshua Tinnin wrote: But this is weird. Omar reportedly escaped on a motorbike with four of his men ... on *one* motorbike ... with four other men. Not so weird. Maybe he was a Humble Pie fan A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? --j2
In a message dated 1/4/02 9:41:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What exactly IS a holocaust? I ask you again. Main Entry: ho·lo·caust Pronunciation: 'hO-l-"kost, 'hä- also -"käst or 'ho-l-kost Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Old French holocauste, from Late Latin holocaustum, from Greek holokauston, from neuter of holokaustos burnt whole, from hol- + kaustos burnt, from kaiein to burn —more at CAUSTIC Date: 13th century 1 : a sacrifice consumed by fire 2 : a thorough destruction involving extensive loss of life especially through fire a nuclear holocaust Of course the Zionists have appropriated the word for themselves, in capitalized form, to mean the alleged Nazi atrocities against them, homosexuals,communists,and gypsies. Bill.
Re: [CTRL] Taliban leader 'escapes hideout on motorbike'
-Caveat Lector- There have been numerous film clips of a parked motorcycle, not a motorbike outside the Al Qaida headquarters. Nobody escaped on a motorbike; this motorcycle was a means of transportation obviously used for messenger service. So we maybe have someone with a lot of experience leaping and bounding like a gazelle in a land where many innocoents have been murdered in the name of God and Israel? O'Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Legends of the Fall: Sept. 11 Myths
-Caveat Lector- Legends of the Fall: Sept. 11 Myths Abound Tales Embellished as They Speed Across the Web By Shankar Vedantam Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, January 4, 2002; Page A03 The way most people heard it, a friend of a friend received a letter on Sept. 10 from a former boyfriend, an Afghan, begging her not to fly on commercial airplanes on Sept. 11. The story was passed around in early October because the boyfriend had also warned her not to visit malls on Halloween. In a separate, widely circulated e-mail, Dunkin' Donuts employees of Arab descent were described as cheering when they heard that the World Trade Center buildings had collapsed. And then there were the antiwar protesters from Idaho University who were reportedly chased from a Best Western restaurant by citizens singing God Bless America. All the stories were urgent and riveting -- and untrue. In the weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks, there has been a surge in urban legends -- tales that travel at warp speed through the Internet and across neighborhood fences -- gathering embellishments as they go. After September 11, there was an immediate and sharp upswing in the world of rumor, gossip, half-heard tales and imaginings, said Barbara Mikkelson, a founder of www.snopes.com - - one of the best-known Web sites that track urban legends. The horror and drama of the terrorist attacks are exactly what urban legends thrive on. In new research published in the December issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, scientists found that legends that provoke anger, fear or disgust are those that are most likely to be read, remembered and passed on. Like a natural environment where species compete against each other, urban legends that evoke the strongest emotions appear to have the best survival rates. There are situations where truth does not win out, said Chip Heath, a professor of organization behavior at Stanford University who published the paper with colleagues at Duke University. Legends that punch more emotional buttons are more widely spread. What we've been able to show is as long as something has emotion it doesn't need content, said Heath. It will survive. Heath evaluated multiple versions of disgust-laden myths about rats in soda bottles and people eating cat food mislabeled as tuna. In every instance, the researchers found that the most disgusting version became dominant. Besides that powerful emotional message, legends that last have an internal logic that makes them potentially believable. Unlike lies and innuendo, urban legends gain credibility because the people who pass them along believe they are true. In the case of the anonymous woman with the Afghan boyfriend, the claim that the boyfriend had predicted the Sept. 11 attacks gave his warnings about Halloween credibility. It's rare that people know a story is false and spread it anyway, said Gary Fine, a professor of sociology at Northwestern University who studies such legends. More often, they think it's true or aren't sure. . . . People say this could happen and it's plausible and I am therefore justified in talking about it. The story is just too good to be false. Most successful urban legends also evolve so that people get the feeling they are close to the source of the secret information. They have a tone of whispered urgency and say the event happened to a friend of a friend -- near enough for people to feel that they can trust the source, but distant enough that actual verification is impossible. But Heath and other researchers said the real reason people pass legends along has little to do with their factual content or credibility: Legends confirm beliefs that people already have. Since people are likely to pass on tales to other people who feel the same way, groups of people can reaffirm shared beliefs through such tales. Myths are part of the way we deal with unease, said Mikkelson. We reach out to other people to find that the feelings we are experiencing are not out of line. One of the ways we do that is through our wild stories. We are saying, 'We are concerned about it, and are you feeling the same concern I am?' Fine, who recently coauthored the book Whispers on the Color Line: Rumor and Race in America, said urban legends flourish during times of conflict, when they drive wedges between people and allow communities to feel justified about their angers and fears. Heath's new report cites mirror legends that surfaced simultaneously in the black and white communities during the 1943 race riots in Detroit: One asserted that a black baby had been thrown from the bridge by white sailors; another that a white baby had been thrown from the bridge by blacks. Another group of legends are wish-fulfillment stories, like the much-repeated account of a fireman who surfed the collapsing World Trade Center buildings and walked away. Another reported that a dog named Daisy had rescued countless souls from the damaged buildings. A third
[CTRL] [Fwd: DAVOS(NYork) -National Student Mobilization and Conference]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: DAVOS(NYork) -National Student Mobilization and Conference Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 05:40:19 -0600 (CST) From: MichaelP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ? To: undisclosed-recipients:; A Call for a National Student Mobilization Against the WEF From Thursday, January 31st to Sunday, February 3rd 2002 at Columbia University in New York City 1. BACKGROUND ON THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM (WEF) WHAT IS THE WEF? Every year, 1,000 top business leaders, come together to shape the global agenda, while political elites and media luminaries gaze on admiringly. The World Economic Forum (WEF) will hold its annual meeting at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City from January 31st to February 4th 2002. By its own description, the WEF is a special club of elite business leaders, whose annual meeting is the world's global business summit. WHAT IS THE WEF'S AGENDA? At the New York WEF summit, the world's richest CEOs will collaborate with the world's most powerful politicians to set the global economic agenda. Meanwhile, in the halls of Congress, the world's most powerful politicians are collaborating with the world's richest CEOs to expand the war on terrorism. The WEF agenda has already led to a world in which every day 19,000 children die in the developing world from undernourishment. While the world's richest 200 people have doubled their wealth in the last five years. This neoliberal economic agenda has also led to a world in which the U.S. government, spending over $270 million annually on its military budget, supports dictatorships and autocratic regimes, and leads other nations into wars that kill millions of more innocent people. Most recently, this agenda has led the U.S. government into another protracted war, while it attacks the rights of workers, students, and immigrants at home. It has led to a world where the people of Tuvalu are faced with the possibility of fleeing their island nation if the rise in sea level caused by global warming continues, where as many as 50,000 endangered species disappear forever each year, and where 214,000 acres of rainforest--an area larger than New York City--is cut down every day. WHAT CAN I DO? It's time to make the connection. The same people who stand to gain from extending the war are perpetuating the global economic conditions that foster terrorism. Capitalism propels war, and war protects capital. U.S. imperialism and global corporate domination go hand in hand. In the name of democracy, in the name of economic justice, in the name of the global anti-imperialist struggle, and in the name of the Earth, we call all students, activists, rabble-rousers, and concerned citizens to share their ideas, fears, inspirations and tactics. Our leaders will never make the necessary changes; it's up to us to do it for ourselves! Join us to say -- NO to the War on Terrorism, -- NO to the WEF, -- NO to the global economic conditions that foster terrorism, -- and, YES to a world organized around principles of democracy, equity, sustainability and solidarity. 2. NATIONAL STUDENT MOBILIZATION AND CONFERENCE WHAT IS THE OUTLINE FOR THE CONFERENCE? The four-day conference will comprise of three days of workshops and panels, mostly in the evenings and on Thursday and Friday so as not to conflict with direct actions to shut down the WEF being planned in the city on the weekend. We expect hundreds of students from all over the nation, from California, the Pacific Northwest, the Midwest, the South and the East Coast. We're in contact with students abroad in Canada, Europe and Asia. Together, and in solidarity with other initiatives against the WEF, we will seek to model the world we wish to create. WHAT ARE THE WORKSHOPS, PANEL DISCUSSIONS AND FORUMS ABOUT? -- Legal, media, medical and tactical trainings -- Forums on the history of the WEF and the policies it promotes -- Workshops on globalization, labor, sustainable development, and human rights -- Education about the environmental impact of globalization -- Speakers on the corporate influences behind US foreign policy decisions -- Focus on indigenous peoples' right to self-sustainability And much more, specific topics TBA. 3. HOW TO GET INVOLVED AND FOR MORE INFORMATION HOW CAN I REGISTER FOR THE CONFERENCE? To cover the costs of the conference, we ask that participants pay a registration fee on a sliding scale from $5 to $10. No one will be turned away from the door due to lack of funds. The collected funds will go towards the reservation of spaces, rental of sound equipment, etc. You can pre-register for the conference by sending a check or money order to the Columbia Student Solidarity Network. Please email the WEF Counter-Summit Organizing Collective ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for more information. WHERE WILL I STAY? Arrangements are being made to provide housing for all out of town students. To
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[CTRL] Fwd: [the_octopus] towers collapsing/ New Members
(Forward from another list - fascinating theory re the 1993 WTC bombing - that it was intended to assassinate Clinton.) ---BeginMessage--- The General Consensus is that explosives of some type had been placed inside the center support structure to cause collapse in a way that caused implosion to protect nearby buildings and do the least damage in that respect.sic One school of thought believes the 93 bombing of WTC was to find the building weaknesses as well as another purpose. The Presidential Limousine was parked near the bombs in 93 and was vaporized by the 93 bombing. President Clinton was going to be taken to the top of the WTC and brought to the basement where a Presidential Limousine was parked in the basement on Monday. With the extra security around more wireless signals and radio type phones that it set it off early. A failed Assassination attempt. Plus the fact that the 9th of Sept Newsweek was going to expose the major fraud in Florida that would have changed a lot of things and perhaps put a few people in prison only now it isn't appropriate. The insider trading is amazing as well. G - Original Message - From: Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [the_octopus] towers collapsing/ New Members Still, there could be other explanations. like that terrorists carried nitroglycerine or other explosive materials. What do you think? Anna - Original Message - From: Gwynlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [the_octopus] towers collapsing/ New Members The Titanic would have been unsinkable had they listened to the man who helped build it who went down with the ship. The company to make more steerage and make more money from the poor made the compartment walls not go all the way to the top of the compartment so when the water got to the top of these walls of course it spilled over. Had the original plans been used we probably would not have heard of Titanic other than it was unsinkable. Instead, this ship sank on it's maiden voyage. The WTC was not built as a building that could not be brought down, it was built with the support structure of a tree, The middle of the building was it's support system and then it went out from there with Ultra Light Floors. When the airplanes hit it is logical to assume that indeed from where the airplane hi up would topple. The jet steel could have melted the four corners perhaps but this would not have collapsed the building. Sure part of the structure would have fallen away but the middle would have only disappeared from where the airplane hit up, but not down. When the support is in the middle it is much different. Had the middle support had been broken at the bottom, it would have gone down like a tree. We didn't see that. We saw two airplanes disappear into two towers and then the two towers appear to implode, the second tower hit implodes before the tower which was hit first. Few buildings around the WTC were damaged like at OKC. Another little fact is that when this WTC was built it had just been outlawed for buildings to use asbestos in their construction and new buildings that used asbestos were allowed to use the buildings for thirty years to regain their investments. Then by law these buildings had to remove the asbestos. The hope was a way of doing this could be found within thirty years, or else a way to subvert the law. I admit I am in California but it is pretty clear that it is not just a State Law. I at least hope not. The Port Authority of New York sold the last of the World Trade Center, the South Tower, to someone and they were allowed to have Terrorist Insurance. This is not rumor. Already the Insurance Company who insured the South Tower has announced it will not pay more than fifty percent of the policy. One headline from one day and the matter disappears. Amazing isn't it. The Port Authority had not even given over the care of the Tower to the new owners before this tragedy happened. It was the Port Authority who told people to stay in their offices in the South Tower because they were going to be fine. The things that didn't happen that day are more scary than what did. Someone allowed this to happen at the least. From that point who knows. G - Original Message - From: Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [the_octopus] towers collapsing/ New Members If it was possible to sink unsinkable Titanic, why not WTC? Anna - Original Message - From: Gwynlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [the_octopus]
[CTRL] Fwd: Choosing Wisdom or Folly - Douglas Mattern
forwarded message ---BeginMessage--- Choosing Wisdom or Folly Great Minds or Small - The Choice is Ours By: Douglas Mattern - 01/05/02 On the centennial anniversary of the Nobel Prize in December of 2001, a total of 104 Nobel Laureates issued an appeal to humanity that reveals a profound gap in the vision of our brightest minds and that of President George Bush and his team of reconstituted cold warriors. Most outspoken was Adolfo Perez Esquivel, the Argentinean campaigner for human rights who won the 1980 peace prize. Regarding the United States, he said it failed to grasp the nuances of the present conflict. That kind of black-and-white thinking, where good is set against evil, reminds me of cowboy films, he said. The Appeal of the 100 Nobel Laureates begins by stating, The most profound danger to world peace in the coming years will stem not from the irrational acts of states or individuals but from the legitimate demands of the world¹s dispossessed. And later, It is time to turn our backs on the unilateral search for security, in which we seek to shelter behind walls. Instead, we must persist in the quest for united action to counter both global warming and a weaponized world. As vital to our future the Nobel Laureates include the 1972 ABM Treaty, the Convention on Climate Change, the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaties (SALT), and the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT). In the appeal they urge all governments to commit to these goals that constitute steps on the way to replacement of war by law. In the opposing mentality we have President Bush and his team rejecting the 1997 Kyoto Protocol designed to reduce climate warming. Bush has no intention of pursuing congressional approval of the CTBT, or the SALT treaties, or just about anything else that actually benefits humanity rather than corporations and the rich that put him into office. In addition, George W. and his team refuse to accept the new International Criminal Court (ICC). Moreover, Bush, with the help of the U.S. Senate, passed the American Servicemembers Protection Act that authorizes the President to use all means to free any American who might be arraigned before the ICC. This is a slap in the face to the world community. In addition, the president rejected proposals to improve adherence to the 1972 Biological Warfare Convention. The purported reason is a refusal to open up our industrial facilities and pharmaceutical companies for the same inspection that other countries agree to. Most recent of Bush's long list of rejections in opposition to world opinion is to scrap the 1972 ABM Treaty and proceed with the son of Star Wars antimissile system, officially known as National Missile Defense (NMD). As even U.S. allies warn, this reckless decision could ignite a new nuclear arms race. The Nobel Laureates concluded their appeal by stating: To survive in the world we have transformed, we must learn to think in a new way. As never before, the future of each depends on the good of all. How profoundly different from the shallow and jingoist thinking of the Bush Administration, and with lots of help from small thinking politicians in congress, including both republicans and democrats. Congress, for example, passed a record military authorization bill for Fiscal 2002 for an astounding $343 billion. This figure is more than the entire gross domestic product of Russia and more than the combined spending of the next 15 nations after the United States. There can be no rationale for this level of spending other than a clear intent for the United States to dominate the world economically and militarily, including the militarization of space, of which NMD is the first step. This is clear in the document Vision 2020 of the Pentagon's U.S. Space Command. This document states how the global economy will widen the gulf between rich and poor and the role of the Space Command is dominating the space dimension of military operations to protect U.S. interests and investments. Integrating Space Forces into war fighting capabilities across the full spectrum of conflict. As the crucial year of 2002 begins, let us reject the militarism and jingoistic policy of the Bush team. Our future and that of the world community depends on pursuing the thinking of the wise as expressed in the Appeal of the Nobel Laureates. This is the thinking that offers a future; not small-minded folly coming out of our nation¹s capital. Douglas Mattern, a contributing writer for Liberal Slant, is president of the Association of World Citizens, a San Francisco based international peace organization with branches in 50 countries and with UN NGO status. The website for AWC is www.worldcitizens.org 2002-2001-2000-1999-1998 LIBERAL SLANT Web Publications. All rights reserved. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liberalslant.com Send this article to a friend. __ To unsubscribe:
[CTRL] Fwd: A Thought on Leadership - Mike Hersh
forwarded message ---BeginMessage--- A Thought on Leadership and Polls After 9/11 By : Mike Hersh - 01/05/02 On 9/13 -- two days after the terrorist attacks -- George Walker Bush addressed the nation. That Thursday night, only ABC showed Bush. Can ANYONE tell me why -- if Bush is so popular -- most Americans watched Friends, Survivor, or a cartoon called Family Guy instead of looking to Bush for leadership? Clearly the polls are reading something other than approval for Bush. If 90% or 80% or 40% thought Bush was any kind of leader, he would have won his time slot 9/13--He came in FOURTH! Mike Hersh is a contributing writer for Liberal Slant 2002-2001-2000-1999-1998 LIBERAL SLANT Web Publications. All rights reserved. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liberalslant.com Send this article to a friend. __ To unsubscribe: http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com/unsubscribe.php?[EMAIL PROTECTED] This newsletter is hosted by http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Democrats.com Daily News for January 5, 2002
Forwarded message below ---BeginMessage--- ___DEMOCRATS.COMThe Aggressive Progressives__ Democrats.com is the largest independent community of Democrats. We publish the only Democratic daily news service - and it's free! Our members make it possible through generous contributions. Please help by clicking below! http://democrats.com/donate ___.COMPOSITION__In This Issue___ Democrats.com Activist Alert! Defend Tom Daschle and Show your Support for a Sensible Plan for Economic Recovery Daschle's New Growth Agenda for the American Economy Anti-Bush Protests 'I Wish Al Gore Were President' Some Recent Examples That Prove The Difference Between the Two Parties Arizona Democracy Group Launches Campaign to Help 'Take Back the State' The Nation Readers Cite Democrats.com as a Favorite Media Source Reflections on The First Year of Citizens for Legitimate Government The Making of a Media Reform Movement Peter Roff Says in The Washington (Moonie) Times That We Write 'Profanity-laced Vitriol' Peter Roff Responds to Buzzflash's Editorial, but Roff Has a 'Latest' Error of Fact of his Own An Open Letter to Peter Roff, Ace 'Moonie-Tunes' Propagandist Hilarious! See How Difficult It Will Be for Bernard Goldberg to Promote His Book in the 'Liberal' Media! Buyer Beware! Goldberg's Book About the 'Liberal' Media is Published by Regnery - The Heart of the Right Wing Propaganda Machine John Ashcroft v. Joseph McCarthy - Take the Test! Out of the Horror, a Test of Humanity Somalia May be Bush's Next Target Zambian Protesters Demand Investigation of Rigged Election No Charges Filed Against Torricelli 'The Day Reagan Was Shot' Will Air on Showtime Monday __Democrats.com Activist Alert! Defend Tom Daschle and Show your Support for a Sensible Plan for Economic Recovery Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle isn't afraid of the Republican attack machine and we shouldn't be either! Daschle gave a major speech today setting out a sensible agenda for economic recovery. [Read the full speech or our summary.] He asked Bush and the GOP to focus stimulus where it is needed consumer spending, job growth and measures to improve health and retirement security. He had hardly finished talking before Bush mouthpiece Karen Hughes torched the olive branch Daschle offered, demanding instead that the Democrats capitulate to the Administration's archconservative economic agenda of tax breaks for the wealthy. In December the Democrats successfully blocked the Bush Administration's cynical ploy to reward their friends with money from the public treasury, an economic stimulus package that would have no effect on the economy. Take action - send a letter to the media that Daschle speaks for millions of Americans, including you! http://www.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=5434 __Daschle's New Growth Agenda for the American Economy Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle today set out a seven point agenda to achieve genuine economic recovery and create jobs. Before the corporate news media twists it out of all recognizable form, here is an outline of the Daschle plan. http://www.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=5433 __Anti-Bush Protests On January 5, protest Bush in Ontario, California at the Ontario Convention Center. http://www.legitgov.org/action.html __'I Wish Al Gore Were President' I wish Al Gore were president. Why? Quite simply because instead of showing resolve, imagination, leadership and creativity on the domestic front, Mr. Bush has done just the opposite. He has tried to use the tremendous upsurge in patriotism, bipartisanship and volunteerism triggered by the tragedy of Sept. 11 to drive a narrow, right-wing agenda from Sept. 10 into a Sept. 12 world. It's wrong. It won't work. It sells the country short and it will ultimately sell the Bush presidency short. I have no problem with nation-building in Afghanistan, but what I'm really interested in is nation- building in America - using the power of Sept. 11 to make our country stronger, safer and a better global citizen in the world of Sept. 12, beginning with how we use energy. But so far, all that's happening is that we've made the world safer for Saudi Arabia and OPEC to raise oil prices again. So writes NY Times columnist Tom Friedman. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/02/opinion/02FRIE.html __Some Recent Examples That Prove The Difference Between the Two Parties It was a classic stealth maneuver -- and it worked. Two days after Christmas, with President [sic] Bush at his Texas ranch and most of official Washington on vacation, the White House announced the rejection of regulations that would have barred companies that repeatedly violate environmental and workplace standards from receiving government contracts. Few in the press noticed, and those papers that printed anything about the decision buried the stories on inside pages. But this was no trivial matter. A congressional report
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: P.O.D. Docket No. 2/47 -- CAPITAL STUDIOandANTHONY M.GUYTHER
-Caveat Lector- Was several of unfounded charges but they were rich okay and had secret of King Solomon's Mines? Now I doubt any manly Knight would want a pansy around unless it was to clean up after the horse with a broom. Always thought strange November 22 was the date King Philip met with an accidient and then this date of October 13 - as I recall the CIA or OSS forget which, was also founded on October 13 - perhaps too this is why old Hells Fire Club who used the Italians Rituals, their Leader Dashwood always signed with a XXII or 22 after his name. This symbolism and use of numbers game is something else. Noted as of late some of the fags when the war started all want out of service now - of course they would like to play war games but they want the men to go to war or would we have WWIII being fought to protect our homosexuals, gyspies, and jews once again for htis is where we are obviously headed. O'Saba By their fruits you shall know them - A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Could You Be An Israelite And Not Know It?
-Caveat Lector- more of the same misguided longing for being one of the chosen...lemme tell ya a secret...god's chosen are those who have chosen god... he speaks to us at all times and the more we fill our heads with trying to apply multi-thousand year old political histories as literal spiritual fact to a new, entirely different world, the more will we NOT hear the word... --- Bill Kalivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by Ted R. Weiland Here's a paradox, a paradox, a most ingenious paradox: and anthropological fact, many Christians may have much more Hebrew-Israelite blood in their veins than most of their Jewish neighbors. 1 --Alfred M. Lilienthal, Author of What Price Israel? Could there possibly be any truth to this? If so, it would mean that the majority of Christendom and the rest of society has misidentified the people most prominent in the Bible. If Israel has been misidentified there is no doubt that major errors in doctrinal interpretation and application of Biblical prophecy have been made! There are a variety of stories regarding the Israelites and their modern - day identity. It is not the purpose of this tract to relate another of these stories. Instead, it will furnish you with the rest of the story, the true story regarding Israel's modern identity, the one found in the Scriptures and verified by archeology and history -- a story not usually told by most preachers. SPIRITUAL ISRAEL A large segment of Christianity is being taught that God no longer has a plan for physical Israel under the New Covenant, and that He is now working with only a spiritual Israel. For example, in the January/February 1991 issue of The Last Trump, Dr. Ed Moore claimed: Hence, we can begin to see that being the children of Abraham (today under the New Covenant) has nothing to do with race. 2 In his book Clouds over America, Leonard C. Lee concluded: Since God rejected the Israelites as a nation, we can look for the fulfillment of His purposes only in [a] spiritual Israel. . . The [physical] Israelites have now passed off the stage of action. . . 3 In essence, these men and others of the same persuasion, are proclaiming that God has no New Covenant plan for physical Israel. Yet, contrast these statements with what the inspired writer of Hebrews wrote: Behold days are coming, says the Yahweh* when I will effect a New Covenant with the House of Israel and with the House of Judah. . . (Hebrews 8:8). While some people attempt to spiritualize this passage of Scripture to fit their preconceived ideas or to harmonize it with their denomination's teachings, the Israelites cannot be spiritualized in this verse, and for three reasons. First, the context will not allow it. The very next verse dictates as to whether the Israelites spoken of in verse eight are to be deemed as being either physical or spiritual: Not like the [Mosaic] covenant which I made with their [the house of Israel's and the house of Judah's] fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt... (Hebrews 8:9) The people described in this passage, with whom the New Covenant was and is being made, are clearly the physical descendants of the physical people whom Moses led out of Egypt. The second reason Israel cannot be spiritualized is illustrated by the Old Testament passage from which Hebrews 8:8-12 is quoted. The author of Hebrews quoted the Prophet Jeremiah, and Jeremiah continued with the following: Thus says Yahweh, who gives the sun for light by day, and the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by day If this fixed order departs from before Me ... then the offspring of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before Me forever. Thus says Yahweh, If the heavens above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out below, then I will also cast off the offspring of Israel (Jeremiah 31:35-37) Since the fixed order of the sun, moon and stars has not departed, and since the heavens have not been measured, and the depths of the earth searched out below, then it is quite apparent that God is still working with the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. If not, then God has lied. The third reason the Israelites in Hebrews 8:8 cannot be spiritualized is because of the second witness found in Romans where the Apostle Paul declared: For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from [the] Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh, who are Israelites, to whom belong ... the covenants (Romans 9:3-4) Not only do the previous three passages specifically declare that God made His New Covenant with Israelites, but there are many more New Testament passages which reveal that God continues to work with the physical nation of
[CTRL] Fwd: Queen Liz Banker Moves to Carlyle
---BeginMessage--- Tuesday December 18, 9:14 am Eastern Time Royal Bank says Coutts head resigns LONDON, Dec 18 (Reuters) - Britain's second-largest bank, Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc, said on Tuesday Andrew Fisher, chief executive of private banking arm Coutts Group, had resigned and would be replaced by Gordon Pell. Pell would be taking on the role at Coutts, Queen Elizabeth's bank, in addition to his responsibilities as executive director and chairman in charge of retail banking and wealth management. Royal Bank said Fisher would leave with effect from February 28 to work with private equity company The Carlyle Group. ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: [corp-focus] The Ten Worst Corporations of 2001
---BeginMessage--- The Ten Worst Corporations of 2001 By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman In a year marked not only by the now-standard forms of corporate marauding but also by brazen wartime profiteering, it was no easy chore to identify Multinational Monitor's 10 corporations of 2001. The competition was even tougher than usual. But choices had to be made. And now decisions have been reached. Multinational Monitor has named Abbott Laboratories, Argenbright, Bayer, Coke, Enron, Exxon Mobil, Philip Morris, Sara Lee, Southern Co. and Wal-Mart as the 10 worst corporations of 2001 Appearing in alphabetical order, the 10 worst are: Abbott Laboratories, for its TAP Pharmaceuticals, a joint venture with Japanese Takeda Pharmaceuticals. TAP was forced to pay $875 million to resolve criminal charges and civil liability in connection with allegations of major Medicare reimbursement fraud. Among other alleged fraudulent activities, as a way of hooking doctors on prescribing Lupron, its prostate cancer drug, TAP gave doctors free samples and then encouraged doctors to bill Medicare for the free samples. Argenbright, the security company, for repeat violations of regulations for airport security. Argenbright's appalling record -- including violations of security rules it had been caught breaking just a year earlier -- helped convince Congress to federalize U.S. airport security operations. Bayer, for its overcharge of the government and public for the anti-anthrax drug Cipro, based on a patent monopoly that may well be improperly maintained by virtue of a collusive arrangement with a generic manufacturer. Bayer also secured a place on the 10 worst list for its dangerous peddling of antibiotics for poultry (contributing to antibiotic resistance among humans) and its harassment of a German watchdog group, Coalition Against Bayer Dangers, for maintaining a BayerWatch.com website. Coca Cola, for its sponsorship of the first Harry Potter movie and possible sequels, using a children's favorite to hawks its unhealthy product, and for alleged complicity with death squads in Colombia targeting union leaders there. Enron, for costing many of its employees their life savings by refusing to let them dump company stock from their pension plans, as Enron plunged toward bankruptcy. ExxonMobil, for leading the global warming denial campaign (even O'Dwyer's a leading rag of the public relations industry, has chastised the company for its stubborn refusal to acknowledge the fact that burning fossil fuels has a role in global warming) and blocking efforts at appropriate remedial action, plus a host of other reckless activities. Philip Morris, for its we've changed marketing campaign -- revealed to be a hoax by a Czech study it commissioned alleging cost savings from smoking-related premature deaths, as well as the company's ongoing efforts to addict millions of new smokers. Sara Lee, for a scandal involving its Ball Park Franks hot dogs. Listeria-contaminated Ball Park Franks killed 21 and seriously injured 100 in 1998. In 2001, with civil and criminal litigation around the case heating up, the Detroit Free Press reported that Sara Lee stopped performing tests for bacteria after it started recording too many positives. The U.S. attorney, which handled prosecution of the criminal case, insists Sara Lee did not know about the presence of listeria in its hot dogs. In an extraordinary move, the U.S. attorney issued a joint press release with Sara Lee announcing settlement of the case. The final tally: 21 dead. A misdemeanor plea. A $200,000 fine. Southern Co., the largest electric utility in the United States, for its efforts to defeat sensible air pollution regulations. Southern is a heavy user of coal, and leads the fight to maintain a ridiculous grandfather clause in the U.S. Clean Air Act, which exempts power plants built before 1970 from Clean Air Act standards. Wal-Mart, for continuing to source products from overseas sweatshops, for viciously battling efforts to unionize any fraction of its workforce (the largest in the United States, among private employers), and for contributing to the sprawl that blights the U.S. landscape. For a complete version of Multinational Monitor's article naming the 10 worst corporations of 2001, see www.essential.org/monitor. Russell Mokhiber is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Corporate Crime Reporter. Robert Weissman is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Multinational Monitor. They are co-authors of Corporate Predators: The Hunt for MegaProfits and the Attack on Democracy (Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1999; http://www.corporatepredators.org) (c) Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman ___ Focus on the Corporation is a weekly column written by Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman. Please feel free to forward the column to friends or repost the column on other lists. If you would like to post the column on a web site or
[CTRL] A Dossier on Civilian Victims of United States' Aerial Bombing of Afghanistan
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Re: [CTRL] Could You Be An Israelite And Not Know It?
-Caveat Lector- Actually, this is more of an attempt to balance off some of the horseshit that people like Gale and others pass off claiming Gospel Identity. Israel has to be someone today. I've always had trouble swallowing the chosen people myth promoted by many 501C3 State christian churches. Christians promote the anti-christ Jewish religion as if it were right out of the Bible. No wonder the Christian Church is a scorn. more of the same misguided longing for being one of the chosen...lemme tell ya a secret...god's chosen are those who have chosen god... he speaks to us at all times and the more we fill our heads with trying to apply multi-thousand year old political histories as literal spiritual fact to a new, entirely different world, the more will we NOT hear the word... A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SCIENCE AND PRECAUTION
-Caveat Lector- If you find the Rachel newsletter useful or interesting, please forward it to a friend suggesting that they start their own free E-mail subscription. To stop receiving the Rachel newsletter, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with two words in the body of the message (not in the subject line): UNSUB RACHEL-NEWS ===Electronic Edition== . . .RACHEL'S ENVIRONMENT HEALTH NEWS #741. . ---January 3, 2002--- . . HEADLINES: . .SCIENCE AND PRECAUTION . . == . . Environmental Research Foundation . . P.O. Box 5036, Annapolis, MD 21403 . . Fax (410) 263-8944; E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . == . .All back issues are available by E-mail: send E-mail to. . [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the single word HELP in the message. . . Back issues are also available from http://www.rachel.org. . . To start your own free subscription, send E-mail to . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words. . SUBSCRIBE RACHEL-NEWS YOUR FULL NAME in the message. . .The Rachel newsletter is now also available in Spanish;. . to learn how to subscribe in Spanish, send the word . .AYUDA in an E-mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . = Review of 2001--Part 2 SCIENCE AND PRECAUTION [During 2001, the precautionary principle to guide environmental decision-making became widely-recognized as an important alternative to business as usual: The NEW YORK TIMES wrote positively about precautionary action,[1] the environmental community (worldwide) embraced the principle enthusiastically, and corporations -- which had begun to attack the principle crudely in 2000[2] -- launched a more sophisticated attack in 2001.[3] In late 2001, 77 scientists and teachers from 16 countries issued the Lowell Statement on Science and Precaution.[4] The meeting that produced this statement now has its own web site: http://www.uml.edu/centers/lcsp/precaution/. Here is the text of the Lowell Statement:] Lowell Statement on Science and the Precautionary Principle, December 17, 2001; Statement from the International Summit on Science and the Precautionary Principle; Hosted by the Lowell Center for Sustainable Production, University of Massachusetts Lowell 20-22 September 2002. Growing awareness of the potentially vast scale of human impacts on planetary health has led to a recognition of the need to change the ways in which environmental protection decisions are made, and the ways that scientific knowledge informs those decisions. As scientists and other professionals committed to improving global health, we therefore call for the recognition of the precautionary principle as a key component of environmental and health policy decision-making, particularly when complex and uncertain threats must be addressed. We reaffirm the 1998 Wingspread Statement on the Precautionary Principle [see REHN #586] and believe that effective implementation of this principle requires the following elements: ** Upholding the basic right of each individual (and future generations) to a healthy, life-sustaining environment as called for in the United Nations Declaration on Human Rights; ** Action on early warnings, when there is credible evidence that harm is occurring or likely to occur, even if the exact nature and magnitude of the harm are not fully understood; ** Identification, evaluation and implementation of the safest feasible approaches to meeting social needs; ** Placing responsibility on originators of potentially dangerous activities to thoroughly study and minimize risks, and to evaluate and choose the safest alternatives to meet a particular need, with independent review; and ** Application of transparent and inclusive decision-making processes that increase the participation of all stakeholders and communities, particularly those potentially affected by a policy choice. We believe that effective application of the precautionary principle requires interdisciplinary scientific research, as well as explicitness about the uncertainties involved in this research and its findings. Precautionary decision-making is consistent with sound science because of the large areas of uncertainty and even ignorance that persist in our understanding of complex biological systems, in the interconnectedness of organisms, and in the potential for interactive and cumulative impacts of multiple hazards. Because of these uncertainties, science will sometimes be incapable of providing clear and certain answers to important
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Will gold rise follow squeeze in silver?
---BeginMessage--- By Thom Calandra CBS.MarketWatch.com Friday, January 4, 2002 http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B3240BD45%2D47C1% 2D4C42%2DAC5B%2D4C4C355942B7%7Dsiteid=mktw SAN FRANCISCO -- Gold sure could use some of the squeeze that is pushing silver prices to nearly one-year highs. While gold prices start the new year tamely flirting with $280 an ounce, silver, thanks to delivery snafus and tight lending of the metal, is rising smartly. The metal, which has more industrial uses than gold, has risen in recent weeks to almost $4.70 an ounce, an 11-month high, from just above $4. Silver will trade back down, says Larry Edelson, managing editor of the highly regarded Safe Money Report Because of delivery problems and near-20 percent lease rates that restrict lending of the metal, the spot price of silver is higher than contracts for future delivery. So-called squeezes -- the professionals call it backwardation -- happen rarely and usually evaporate when supply starts moving again overseas and in the United States. I'm a bear on silver but a bull on gold, says Edelson, who had been reluctant to endorse long-languishing gold. Gold, says Edelson, will need to clear many hurdles before it sheds its reputation as a losing investment. Many technicians, the folks who study trading patterns for commodity futures contracts, agree. Amanda Sells, an independent consultant used by Mitsui Global Precious Metals in London, says, Gold's upside potential will only increase to $328 on a clear and confirmed break of $292. Her comments came in a year-end report issued by Mitsui and its headline metals analyst, Andy Smith, a London-based researcher who went positive on gold in mid-2001 after shunning the metal for years. Smith himself sees gold making strides this year as gold producers move away from their practice of selling their delivery of the metal forward to lock in higher prices. Such hedging stimulates lending of gold by central banks and others, thus diluting any gold metal rallies. The debate between those who hedge, like South Africa's Anglogold, and those who do not, like North America's Newmont Mining, will probably take center stage this year in the gold industry, says Robert Bishop, longtime editor of The Gold Mining Stock Report. Newmont Mining's battle against Anglogold isn't just on the hedging fields. Newmont, outbidding Anglogold, is close to winning a takeover effort for Australia's largest producer, Normandy Mining, at a price tag of $2.2 billion. The consolidation of gold mining companies around the globe has pushed shares of these producers higher. In Australia, where rumors of gold bids are rampant, gold stocks this week moved within points of an all-time high. Still, the question for investors, and stymied executives at gold mining companies, both hedgers and straight producers, is entirely a $300 one. Is this the year gold breaks the $300 mark and stays there? Edelson at The Safe Money Report says yes. Gold's not there yet, but it's getting closer, he said Friday. The price of an ounce trades at about $279 in New York and London. First signal, look for a close above $282. If gold can do that, then a test of $300 would be sure to follow. And after that, any close above $306, and it's off to the races. Such seemingly small gains for gold prices are meaningful for gold producers, especially those that are paid the spot price for the metal they pull from the ground in places like North America, Indonesia, Australia and South Africa. Non-hedgers such as Newmont, South Africa's Gold Fields Ltd. and Canada's Franco-Nevada Mining see their operating margins rise a percentage point and sometimes more with each $10 rise in gold's price. Analysts say investors should expect the share price of a non-hedged gold mining company to triple the percentage gain in the price of the metal. Of course, that works in reverse on the down side of the slope. Edelson, a former Europe-based commodities trader whose job is to coach investors on the safest possible investments for their hard-earned money, sees several reasons why gold could go to $340 an ounce or possibly higher this year. One is an acceleration of debt crises around the world. Argentina isn't the only problem with debt, not by a long shot, he says. Another is global worries about central banks' reinflation attempts. Banks such as the European Central Bank and the Federal Reserve conceivably could flood their economies with cash as they keep lowering interest rates. The likely result would be accelerating inflation, which is almost always a positive development for gold, a commodity whose net worth is burdened by no country's currency, debt levels or politics. This is a biggie, says Edelson. Look at how the long bond market (in the United States and elsewhere) has had its worst crash since 1996 on reinflation concerns. Soon, that will spread, giving gold a boost, he says. Edelson sees investors slowly registering their
[CTRL] ... the Stockholm syndrome
[ this Post should be spread throughout the Land. ] More each day we are seeing terrorist sympathizers making appearances on radio and television while pretending to be our friends. They suggest that the Muslim world is very angry at America. These sympathizers pound the podium about Islamic suffering, the result of American foreign policy favoring Israel, they say. But their motives may not be pure. They are in fact ushering in the ugly shape of things to come. Their goal is the implementation of the first stages a psychological warfare, to divide America against itself so as to leave Israel isolated and surrounded. Terrorists and their American cheerleading team, count on political correctness to make the current campaign against terrorism a long and protracted war, with terrifying consequences. Life will become so unbearable, they hope, that the stress of it will crack many. This may cause a phenomenon known as the Stockholm syndrome, whereby victims of terror develop a strange sympathy for their abusers. We have all experienced something similar in our own lives where we give in to unreasonableness as a means of relieving the pain and fear caused by a violent intrusion. This is the error our enemies hunger for us to make. Americans who value their security more than freedom will become the targets of propaganda designed to evoke sympathy for the intruder. Such Americans will feel rage not only towards Israel, but also toward their own government for the stress and inconveniences most citizens are not noble enough to bear for the sake of freedom. In their emotional state, the prediction foretold from the very beginning on the talk show circuit will take root, dangerously dividing America. Be forewarned. Once this seed is planted in the fertile soil of our implanted rage, the stage will be set for millions of sleepers to arise in the service of the discontented masses. Historically, such cleverly used divisions have set the stage for critical losses, not unlike the Vietnam War. Any attempt to reason with our errant countrymen will only make them dig their heels in to their implanted belief, making them even more violently determined to defend our enemy's point of view. Most dont see they are emissaries of terrorism. They have already begun to see those standing up for what we believe, as the enemy. Since prevention is far better than cure, this message needs to be spread throughout the land. The purpose of terrorism is to accomplish the goal exactly as been herein stated. If we can understand the game of psychological warfare being played with our minds and if we can discover how to resist being intimidated into submission, we will win the war abroad and at home. http://www.fhu.com/divide_america.htm This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.printcharger.com/emailStripper.htm Psalm 33:12 says, "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord..." Archibald BardICQ 83834746
[CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] THE COMMUNITY VS THE CONTENDER ~ NESARA VS NWO?
---BeginMessage--- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/zgSolB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- Rumor Mill News Reading Room http://www.rumormillnews.com THE COMMUNITY VS THE CONTENDER ~ NESARA VS NWO? Posted By: RICHARD MCCLENDON Date: Friday, 4 January 2002, 10:38 p.m. The following may be an important analysis relating to financial matters over the next couple of weeks. The analysis comes from a web bot project where software agents scour the internet using certain information targets and assemble statistical data. Below is the web address where I lifted the quote. There is a small disclaimer/interpretation at the end. My impression is they could have been talking about the Nesara group vs Int'l bankers et al. Richard http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm As to things financial, the model suggests the coming of some pretty monumental events. In fact, a conflict has begun between a strong and a weak entity that the model says will move ALL markets over the next two weeks. Bear in mind our timing interpretation sucks so could be 2 weeks to 2 months away. But not much longer than that in that the timing indicators all are shading toward immediate or very short term. The strong entity is termed [the community] as this is apparently how the members of this grouping conceive of their association to the group. Interpretations of this entity rightly suggest that it represents the 'alignment of interests' which bind the establishment of the financial 'community' of the planet. This entity represents to the financial interests, what incumbency might represent to the political interests. In that sense, the entity thinks of it self as, and tends to express this, the 'establishment'. The weak entity is the [contender] as in one who would begin a quarrel. This entity has an amazing array of positively associated attributes which would lend the interpretation of a champion as in one who would stand for others. Some of the positive attributes include a strength of conviction, nourished on virtue, allegiance to ancient virtue, perseverance through correctness, and the like. The model is pointing to a battle that was recently begun The conflict between our two entities here does NOT refer to the current war on terrorism (I think) as these both are restricted to the financial realm and are both well centered within the financial processing programs of the model. These entities have already begun their conflict. The [contender] is below and [the community] is above. While [the community] is a very strong entity, it nonetheless is currently expressing impotence as its strength cannot be used in the current situation. In fact, [the community] is barely hiding fear over their position. Their view of the [contender] below them is as one might view a danger, but with the peculiar nuance of a danger occupying a correct position. In other words, it is as though a burglar viewing a guard dog who has him trapped in the rafters, unable to move, frustrated, scared, yet acknowledging internally that the guard dog is very good at his work and is being correct in all its moves. Now, in the drama to emerge over the next short period, and which will move ALL the markets over this period, an [official] will arise. This entity is smack in the middle of our conflict, and from its associations, I interpret to represent a judge of some form. This entity as it has developed is clearly not representing the executive branch of things, but more of an official nature, suggesting either a real judiciary member or perhaps some regulatory official in government with the power to decide disputes. What is clear is that [the community] finds itself in a very delicate and potentially hamstrung position. The entities suggest that the markets of the next weeks will be moved by the actions of this [official] in relation to this conflict. They further show that [the community] recognizes the virtue of the character of the [official], his clarity of vision, and the nature of his respect for order. They are also aware of both his knowledge and personal strength of will. They see this [official] as the gate that represents either success or destruction. There is fear associated here as interpretations suggest [the community] is aware that the [contender] strives on the part of correctness and will be favored in that righteousness by the [official]. So as the conflict is now shaping up, a [vessel] (corporation?) associated with the organization of the clans (drawing together groups with a common bond) will be the visible point of contention over the next period. The [contender] has (will make) a correct move. The
[CTRL] Fwd: SUBJUGATING Both KASHMIR and PALESTINE
---BeginMessage--- Title: MER Email MER articles by month 2002--20022001 January--JanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJuneJulyAugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecember SUBJUGATING BOTH KASHMIR and PALESTINEMID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - January 5, 2002: In the official Katmandu summit photograph, the leaders of India and Pakistan were as far apart as they could possibly be. But General President Musharraf played the theatrical game mentioned in the article that follows in order to touch flesh with India's Hindu Prime Minister Vajpayee, getting plenty of hostile stares in the process it seems. If President Musharraf and if Chairman Arafat do as they are ordered, their regimes are both useful and the Americans will try to keep them in power if they can. True, the situation in Pakistan and the stature of Musharraf are very different from that of Arafat in occupied Palestine. True also that whereas Musharraf attempts to conduct himself with a fitting public dignity Arafat long ago reduced himself, on the public stage at least, to a kind of political clown mouthing repetitious inanitities and caring little for credibility. His latest antics, "I will for sure go to Bethlehem even if I have to walk" -- followed 24-hours later with nothing except his 100th+ promise about a "Palestinian State in 2002" (a promise he seems to make as surely as the New Year dawns) -- were just more of the same craziness we've come to expect from the man the Palestinian people are so tragically saddled with. Musharraf is busy arresting those his Army and intelligence services have heretofore encouraged and financed. Pakistan is being threatened with destruction and it is not likely his sole remaining ally, China, will be able to prevent that should the combination of India, the U.S., and Israel decide their time has come to deal with the "Muslim bomb" and "Islamic militantcy". As for the situation in Kashmir, the brutal subjugation by the Indians there is likely to continue, even be heightened. Sooner or later the serious injustices done in Kashmir will have to be rectified, and a historical price will have to be paid; but at the moment the Muslim world is in a pathetic state of impotency and division and thus Pakistan faces tremendous challenges with little real support. As for Arafat, he and his VIP-crowd of international jet-setting Palestinians have so terribly and corruptly "led" the Palestinian people only to further misery and sacrifice; squandering huge amounts of money, time, and international support for which they can never be forgiven. His is the legacy not of "Mr Palestine" but more of the famed American Indian Chief Geronimo, who finally met his end in a White Man's prison cell after being forced to surrender to the U.S. Army with still more lies about what would result. Sad thing about this comparison, Geronimo conducted himself with far more dignity, and immeasurely less corruption and repression, than does Arafat. HANDSHAKE BETWEEN PAKISTAN, INDIA By Neelesh Misra KATMANDU, Nepal - Associated Press - 5 January 2002: Pakistan's president shook hands with India's leader Saturday and called for "a journey of peace" by the rival nations, whose armies are on alert. India's prime minister responded by pressing his demand that Pakistan crack down on militants based on its soil. "I extend a hand of genuine and sincere friendship to Prime Minister Vajpayee," Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf said in a speech at a South Asian summit meeting in Nepal. "Let us together commence a journey of peace, harmony and progress in South Asia." Stepping down from the podium, Musharraf walked over and offered his hand to Indian Prime Minister Atal Vajpayee, who appeared surprised but stood up and shook it with a faint smile -- the first handshake between the leaders of the nuclear-armed neighbors during the summit. Later, however, Vajpayee walked right by Musharraf, looking straight ahead as he slowly passed him and left the stage. Musharraf's call for peace came with tensions high between India and Pakistan following a deadly Dec. 13 suicide attack on the Indian Parliament. India accused two Pakistan-based militant groups and alleged they had support from Pakistan's intelligence service -- a charge Islamabad denies. Since the attack, which killed 14 people including the five assailants, India
[CTRL] 1/2 Clinton's psyche compeled betrayal of our Country
It is said that the history of a nation can be likened to the life of a single man. Likewise the life of a single man can be a snapshot of a nations history. Little is more true when analyzing the life and personality of one of Americas most enigmatic chief executives, ex-president William Jefferson Clinton. My analysis of Clintons behavior, while not based on intimate knowledge, is grounded in certain simple principles that apply to anyone in similar circumstances. It is irrelevant whether Clinton's mother was married three, four, five or six times. Anyone who practices serial matrimony and promiscuity is a loser on many levels, with certain identifiable character flaws, easily observable. The real relevance here isnt all the gory details we already know about but to open the aperture of understanding so as to see what has happened all over America and to gauge the extent of Clintons connection to Americas dangerous future. It is an established psychological fact that all children bond to their mothers at birth. They tend to feel whatever mother feels toward anything or anyone, especially dad. As a young boy, Bill Clinton saw the world through his mothers eyes. As president of the United States, he projected his mothers lifelong hostility toward men onto patriarchal America. His mother's contempt for her father classically duplicated itself and was carried forward through her as a compulsion to sabotage all male relationships. Like all abused women she tended to choose abusive men or set good men up to fail. Then she, again classically, reacted like a victim of male abuse. As Clinton's embittered mother reached sexual maturity, she began to work her revenge on men by selecting mates (fathers) with that special weakness for women. Following the hook-ups she becomes confusing and manipulating, as if to punish men for their abusive weakness. These dark skills were passed on to young Clinton, who rose to the highest office on earth and was celebrated for his ability to confound and confuse. With no knowledge of it in early childhood, Clinton identified with what his mother felt toward men. Little did he or she realize that he was set up to project her contempt toward everything American and masculine. This development, spreading itself far beyond Little Rock, shaped Clintons hidden perception and behavior towards women. In time he actually became like his abusive fathers, the kind of man his mother secretly hated. Clintons altered identity drove him to seek completion and absolution through many unsavory affairs. By the time of college his degraded ego had already learned how to survive by setting others up to fail. Such a persons entire sense of worth comes to depend upon a typical rush to judgment in all matters. Since ancient times the fall of empires and nations has come by exploiting the inherited enmity between men and women. Our liberal media now promote Americas demise by a scorched-earth cultural war against manhood. The biggest casualty may be not those men who live now but succeeding generations of boys. In the past 50 years the cultures of America and Europe have both fallen on this sword. Long before young boys become men they are set up to become feminized failures. No nation can survive the loss of its manhood. Real heroes and natural leaders have been displaced with perverts, rock stars and flamboyants of all kinds. Now out of the closet, the Left works tirelessly for the chaotic collapse of our patriarchal Democratic Republic, replacing it with an effeminate socialism. Young Clinton's abuse and neglect by the men his mother chose and frustrated caused him to turn against his own masculinity only to take refuge in his mother's compassion. Seeing his mother as the abused victim of beastly men literally spawned in him a strange sympathy for evil. It is in this stage of evolution that he began to bond with everything female including the political art of conniving. At 16 years old he knew he would be a politician. An unhealthy craving for women is not love in any sense and honest women know it. Such need, masquerading as love, typically devolves into a slavish loyalty to lust. Like other men born to a mother void of genuine love, Clinton became a lecherous, co-dependent male, growing ever more abusive for the sake of his psychosexual need. In this he was just like all his fathers before him. Here is the pattern and principal. Angry, abused women set men up to fail, who in turn degrade women. Children growing up under an angry, abused womans roof become the next generations abusers, both male and female. This is the age-old enmity that Liberals encourage, using it to demoralize and bring down a masculine nation, giving them control of the clean-up, and later power. Clinton was pre-conditioned with the inclination to seek approval from Third Worlders, as president. Most of these see strong nations
[CTRL] 2/2 Clinton's psyche compeled betrayal of our Country
What did Clinton do? He encouraged and often tried to intimidate Israel into making peace, meaning "give in to the tyrants." His phony peace initiatives conned the world into believing that both sides were morally equivalent. As designed, this fueled a Palestinian aggression that aimed to annihilate Israel. This is only one small aspect of Clintons political pathology, being an early convert to feminism. He is still connected to our tumultuous future. The "no energy policy" of the Clinton administration was carefully crafted to make our country weak and dependent on foreign oil. Clearly this policy created a dependency on America-hating Islamic oil producers. These are the same dictators who yearn to drive a spear through our hearts. They fear the redeeming power of America and Israel. They dream of overcoming us but lack the military strength to do so. So, like all spiders who are not fighters, they set web-traps for America to fall into. The oil trap is only the beginning. In the Balkans the same Clinton/Blair treachery was at work when they took the wrong side in favor of what we were told were "ethnic Albanians." Actually they were Muslims out to populate and take over Kosovo, setting the stage for the real prize, a later invasion of Europe. This trail of father-hating blood can be traced around the world. But the corpse is here in America. What would you call Mexican nationals who out-populate American citizens in a few western states? The media call them Immigrants, often painting the picture that they are only looking for a chance to escape poverty. What many of them really want is to establish their own communist government in Southern California! The border policy, especially during Clintons term, showed that government refused to see this problem for what it was, an act of war. By bombing Yugoslavia, perhaps Bill Clinton unwittingly set a precedent. What should we do in the event that "ethnic Mexicans" want to claim California as Mexican territory? If we defend ourselves, we would then look like the aggressor. What then? Easy answer, a United Nations intervention with all those foreign generals itching to get onto American soil. The hell that begins with a mans abuse of woman is global in its implications. Western-style democracy collapsed in Iran, allowing the Ayatollah to rise to power. Zimbabwe, formerly Rhodesia, crumbled into a murderous anarchy. South Africa descended into a violent, AIDS-ravaged, despotic, black-communist, racist dictatorship. The United Kingdom is mostly a country of broken homes, where children cant read or write, and where crime is out of control. Europe is degenerating into a nation of socialist states, all hushed by the same propaganda. America is not far behind the disintegrating European alliance. Our fall accelerated when we lost the war in Vietnam. Our returning sons were degraded and spat upon by media-poisoned Americans. Little was said about the slaughter of one million pro-American South Vietnamese. A vile and violent socialism is now working behind the scenes there and elsewhere. Communism is not dead as we are told. Its work to corrupt all of our institutions is near complete, having turned us against our founding fathers. Clinton was Americas Manchurian candidate, financed by American-bred betrayers who recognized early on that his background and woman-centered personality would serve their purposes well. Who do you suppose financed his rise to power? And who do you suppose saved him from impeachment? Surely you can now see the media flaunting their victory it in our faces, daily. Bill Clinton, like most men who have no masculine reference, remains unconscious of what drives him. He still feels what his mother, now his wife, feels toward everything masculine. There is no real Bill Clinton, as God made him at birth; he has been displaced. He is both the manipulator and manipulated. He is controlled through his need to be reassured, and controls others through reassuring them. He derived his base of political power through rewarding an irresponsible electorate of passive- aggressive men and women. He placed many of his most devious co-haters in positions of power, especially in the judiciary. When President Clinton was first elected, a shock ran throughout the body of this writer, for I knew we had elected a conscienceless sociopath. Those who feared and hated Clinton had good cause to be concerned. We could never have survived as a Democratic Republic for another four years under puppet President Gore. Bill Clinton has never known who he is. He has never been true to himself. He has never had his own identity or his own feelings toward anything. As such he befriends and is befriended by every low-life, treacherous, Third World opportunist who sympathizes with his hatred toward the spirit of American manliness. Ex-President Bill Clinton is not finished yet. He may now
Re: [CTRL] COOPER GRITZ - will the good guy please stand up
-Caveat Lector- Cooper, Grietz, Lear, Gunderson once again, is there any such thing as an EX-intelligence/secret services guy, Virginia? Greitz is JDL but not to worry... Grietz is 33rd degree Mason but not to worry... Greitz is ex-special services hired killer who seemed to love his work but that was then, this is now ... I mean, N problem - right? Ya gotta love this guy. We will probably never know the truth about this as about so much else - but when you put together some of these strands - Grietz was special forces in Nam; there was(I have read) much use of mind control on participants in Nam, especially those in Grietz's line of work; Grietz, being charismatic, is a very useful type; Grietz seems to have several mutually contradictory views, be all over the map, etc.; now Greitz is emotionally troubled, has tried to kill himself (which allegedly many under mind control are programmed to do when their usefulness runs out and/or they start to integrate/become harder to control)... I really do not know, but when you put all these together, it looks a tad suspicious. I wonder if Greitz is what they call a Pied Piper, like Rush Limbaugh - says enough of the 'right things' (no pun intended) to get the trust of the targeted sub-group then is used to lead them down the garden path on certain key issues - like Rush did re NAFTA/GATT. These devious, Machiavellian ways of power should be taught in the schools, of course, (they sure do make boring subject like economics, govt., and history get real interesting) - but why they are not is of course a no- brainer. Which means the general public should be able to wrap their minds around it - but, in the battle for the minds of men to date I would say the score so far is, Them: 99,999 or so, in round numbers; Us: pretty much double that, square it tack on a minus sign. Oh well - at least we are living in interesting times... molli -Caveat Lector- The TWO definitely hated each other. No doubt about that. However the .45 caliber wound to Gritz's chest was self inflicted from depression over his legal battles. And YES GRITZ was a 32nd Degree Freemason. One of his friends told me that at a GRITZ seminar about 7 years ago. However I think that GRITZ was one of the NON-ILLUMINATED FREEMASONS. The ONES who DONT know what is going on. -Original Message- From: eric stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] is cooper dead because of this? -Caveat Lector- http://www.williamcooper.com/trojan.htm Gritz Attempts Suicide - Survives Tuesday, September 22, 1998 Boise, Idaho -- James Bo Gritz, the former Green Beret colonel and leader of the right-wing Patriot Movement, was found with a self inflicted gunshot wound along a highway near his home after falling into despair over his pending divorce. Clearwater County Sheriff Nick Ablers said the 59-year-old Gritz shot himself in the upper left chest with a .45 calliber handgun ... he said it was not accidental. The wound was not life-threatening, Albers said. A spokeswoman at clearwater Valley Hospital in Orofino confirmed that Gritz was being treated there and said he was in stable condition. Trojan Horse Lt.Col. James Bo Gritz As you read the letter to the editor below written by Lt.Col. James Bo Gritz please note the admissions contained therein. Gritz states that he became a cadet in 1953 and entered active Army service in 1957. He admits that he is a regular U.S. Army officer on retainer with 'hip-pocket' orders yet he has claimed on many occasions that he resigned his commission. If he had resigned his commission as he has claimed why is he always in uniform and/or pictured in uniform? Want to know the truth? Gritz is working for the Department of Defense and the United States government. Gritz admits membership in the Jewish Defense League. He openly admits that he is a Zionist. He has claimed to be a Mormon, Christian Identity, Christian, and during one memorable moment while lecturing in Sedona, Arizona Gritz claimed to have tried all religions but had never found one in which he could believe. He has claimed to have left the Mormon Church but the Church has never excommunicated him, a fate which has never failed to befall all Mormon Apostates. The Mormon Church lists him as a full member (Temple) in good standing, which means he never stopped attending and pays his tithes according to schedule. On his radio broadcast Gritz has proclaimed the new age religion admitting that he sent his son for past life regression, an admission of belief in reincarnation, and found that his son was a soldier in his past life (Wow... who would have guessed?). There is nothing wrong with any of that for an honest man. After all this is
[CTRL] http://hardtruth.topcities.com/george_w_bush.htm
-Caveat Lector- George W. Bush Gore Concedes and George W. Bush becomes the 43rd President of the United States December 13th. George Bush Jr. And the Number 13 13 and 33: The Freemason's Signature In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. (President Franklin D. Roosevelt) What is a Dictator? Dic-ta-tor (dik'ta ter) n. 1. One invested with absolute power, especially in a state in time of emergency. 2. One who dictates or prescribes. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. George W. Bush Judging by President Bush's above comment, this was the plan all along. Just look at the below headlines and tell me the pattern isn't there. * Bush Shocks Congress - Rejects Subpoena For Prosecution Records * Emergency Powers Proposal Would Usher In Martial Law Under Guise Of Public Health * Project Safe Neighborhoods Bush Wants to Get Rid of Your Guns and to Abolish Juries. * GW Bush on 9/11 Conspiracy Theories When President Bush spoke of outrageous conspiracy theories he was for the first time acknowledging something of great significance. There are informed viewpoints completely missing from the propaganda war being relentlessly waged on Americans about 9/11 and its aftermath, viewpoints which are as opposite from the official story as it is possible to get. * Forced Vaccinations Jeff Rense interviews Dr. Len Horowitz * Patriot Act turns retailers into spies Stores now required to monitor customers, report 'suspicious transactions' to Treasury * DEFENDERS OF THE CONSTITUTION NOW CONSIDERED TO BE TERRORISTS Front Page of Official FBI Document | Back Page of Official FBI Document * Bush Insisted Only He Should Decide Who Should Stand Trial Before Military Court * If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. George W. Bush Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders on Capitol Hill All we needed for the above events to take place was some sort of created national crises. * Destruction of the Trade Centers: Occult Symbolism Indicates Enemies Within Our Own Government Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your HONOR. That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - -Mark Twain. LONDON (Reuters) - If royal genes have anything to do with electoral success, then Republican U.S. presidential candidate George W. Bush will be the next man in the White House, Britain's blue blood bible said Tuesday. Burke's Peerage, a revered guide to the breeding of the aristocracy, said both Bush and his rival Al Gore are of royal descent, but investigations deep into their heritage show Bush has far more noble and royal connections. Bush is closely related to every European monarch on and off the throne -- including the King of Albania -- and has kinship with every member of Britain's royal family, the House of Windsor. He is a 13th cousin of Britain's Queen Mother, and of her daughter Queen Elizabeth and is a 13th cousin once removed of the heir to the throne, Prince Charles. Bush's family tree can be documented as far back as the early 15th century. He has a direct descent from Henry III and from Henry VIII's sister Mary Tudor, who was also the wife of Louis XI of France. He is also descended from Charles II of Engla nd. http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/america/usa/101900a.html E.W. Bullinger writes: As to the significance of thirteen, all are aware that it has come down to us as a number of ill-omen. Many superstitions cluster around it, and various explanations are current concerning them. Unfortunately, those who go backwards to find a reason seldom go back far enough. The popular explanations do not, so far as we are aware, go further back than the Apostles. But we must go back to the first occurrence of the number thirteen in order to discover the key to its significance. It occurs first in Gen. xiv. 4, where we read 'Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and the thirteenth year they REBELLED. Hence every occurrence of the number thirteen, and likewise of every multiple of it, stamps that with which it stands in connection with rebellion, apostasy, defection, corruption, disintegration, revolution, or some kindred idea. (Bullinger, E.W. Number in Scripture, Kregel Publications, (c)1967, p. 205). If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. George W. Bush Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders on Capitol Hill But George. Military courts, forced inoculations and property seizures for those who refuse, and the loss of the fourth amendment is a dictatorship! Exposé
[CTRL] 22 killed in Kashmir
-Caveat Lector- http://www.dawn.com/2002/01/04/top17.htm 22 killed in Kashmir SRINAGAR, Jan 3: Twenty-two suspected mujahideen werekilled in separate encounters with Indian security forces in Kashmir, police said on Thursday. Four soldiers also died in violent clashes in the held state, while three forestry officials were kidnapped. Five Mujahideen were killed in an encounter with troops in Kupwara district. Police said four of them had been identified as members of the Tehreek-ul-Mujahideen. In a separate encounter in Baramullah district, a battalion commander of the Jamiat-ul-Mujahideen,Khaild, was shot dead. In Shopian district, two Mujahideen from the Lashkar-i-Taiba were killed in an encounter with the army. One soldier also died. In another incident in Anantnag district, a clash between the army and Mujahideen led to the death of three activists. In Rajouri district, two soldiers were killed in an attack by Mujahideen.On Wednesday night, nine Mujahideen were killed in a clash with security forces in Kalaimada Hill areawhile two other activists and one soldier were killed in another encounter in Chambjurian area.In Srinagar, Bashir Ahmed, a baker, who had earlier been arrested by police on Dec 26, died in a local hospital on Thursday. of course, there is antother side to the story: http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=964039873 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] POW/MIA Freedom Radio
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! On Sunday, January 6, 2002 POW/MIA Freedom Radio, 5:00 (eastern time presents: (adjust the time for your time zone). News and views: We have a line up of special guests Sponsors are always welcome! Help us continue broadcasting the truth. Help us remain on the air $80.00 will cover 1 hour for 2 months. Individuals or organizations can help. Sponsors cover telephone costs. All efforts are volunteer We thank our sponsors for their support. Clifford Dunn American Legion Post #117 Rolling Thunder Chapter 2 - NJ Forked River, NJ Glenn B. Schroder - WW-2 Vet POW/MIA Freedom Radio can be heard on the internet at: http://www.americanewsnet.com/ download Real Audio free at: http://real.com/ http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Barracks/5434/daveindex.html Dave Murray's Fight for POW/MIA's *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! Write to same address to be off lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Could You Be An Israelite And Not Know It?
-Caveat Lector- people have always misunderstood the concept of chosen people - especially Jewish people the original concept is not about a people being special or better than others the idea was that the Jews were chosen to do the hard work of repairing the shekinah - of putting the universe back into working order. Chosen to shoulder the burden of bucking the status qui, and fighting the powerful. It is not an easy task, and it leads to great persecution, as people in power don't want the world fixed - because they like it the way it is. to be chosen people, is like being picked to work on a chain gang it is not glory - it is hard work. there's an old Yiddish joke - o lord - please can't you choose someone else for a while. -- -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. Edward R. Murrow NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: eric stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 08:54:20 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Could You Be An Israelite And Not Know It? -Caveat Lector- more of the same misguided longing for being one of the chosen...lemme tell ya a secret...god's chosen are those who have chosen god... he speaks to us at all times and the more we fill our heads with trying to apply multi-thousand year old political histories as literal spiritual fact to a new, entirely different world, the more will we NOT hear the word... --- Bill Kalivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by Ted R. Weiland Here's a paradox, a paradox, a most ingenious paradox: and anthropological fact, many Christians may have much more Hebrew-Israelite blood in their veins than most of their Jewish neighbors. 1 --Alfred M. Lilienthal, Author of What Price Israel? Could there possibly be any truth to this? If so, it would mean that the majority of Christendom and the rest of society has misidentified the people most prominent in the Bible. If Israel has been misidentified there is no doubt that major errors in doctrinal interpretation and application of Biblical prophecy have been made! There are a variety of stories regarding the Israelites and their modern - day identity. It is not the purpose of this tract to relate another of these stories. Instead, it will furnish you with the rest of the story, the true story regarding Israel's modern identity, the one found in the Scriptures and verified by archeology and history -- a story not usually told by most preachers. SPIRITUAL ISRAEL -- -- A large segment of Christianity is being taught that God no longer has a plan for physical Israel under the New Covenant, and that He is now working with only a spiritual Israel. For example, in the January/February 1991 issue of The Last Trump, Dr. Ed Moore claimed: Hence, we can begin to see that being the children of Abraham (today under the New Covenant) has nothing to do with race. 2 In his book Clouds over America, Leonard C. Lee concluded: Since God rejected the Israelites as a nation, we can look for the fulfillment of His purposes only in [a] spiritual Israel. . . The [physical] Israelites have now passed off the stage of action. . . 3 In essence, these men and others of the same persuasion, are proclaiming that God has no New Covenant plan for physical Israel. Yet, contrast these statements with what the inspired writer of Hebrews wrote: Behold days are coming, says the Yahweh* when I will effect a New Covenant with the House of Israel and with the House of Judah. . . (Hebrews 8:8). While some people attempt to spiritualize this passage of Scripture to fit their preconceived ideas or to harmonize it with their denomination's teachings, the Israelites cannot be spiritualized in this verse, and for three reasons. First, the context will not allow it. The very next verse dictates as to whether the Israelites spoken of in verse eight are to be deemed as being either physical or spiritual: Not like the [Mosaic] covenant which I made with their [the house of Israel's and the house of Judah's] fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt... (Hebrews 8:9) The people described in this passage, with whom the New Covenant was and is being made, are clearly the physical descendants of the physical people whom Moses led out of Egypt. The second reason Israel cannot be spiritualized is illustrated by the Old Testament passage from which Hebrews 8:8-12 is quoted. The author of Hebrews quoted the Prophet Jeremiah, and Jeremiah continued with the following: Thus says Yahweh, who gives the sun for light by day, and
[CTRL] Crack down on terrorists, PM tells Musharraf
-Caveat Lector- http://www.timesofindia.com/Articleshow.asp?art_id=225317234 Crack down on terrorists, PM tells Musharraf SATURDAY, JANUARY 05, 2002 12:39:53 PM KATHMANDU: Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajapyee on Saturday said Pakistan President Musharraf must crack down on terrorists committing mindless violence in India. I am glad he extended his hand of friendship to me, Vajpayee said at the end of his speech to the Saarc summit. In his speech earlier, Musharraf had extended a hand of genuine, sincere friendship to India. Now President Musharraf must follow this the gesture by not permitting any activity in Pakistan or any territory in its control today that allows terrorists to perpetrate mindless violence in India, he said, in a departure from his prepared remarks. In his speech, Vajpayee also asked Pakistan to learn a lesson from events in Afghanistan which have proved that terrorism can boomerang on its creator and proposed updating of the Saarc convention on suppresssion of the menace in a contemporary framework of cooperation. The recent experience of Afghanistan showed graphically that tolerance, acquiescence or sponsorship of terrorism creates a monster out of the control of its own creator, Vajpayee said in his speech to the Saarc summit, that opened here, without specifically mentioning Pakistan. The Prime Minister chose the opportunity to tell the leaders of the seven-nation grouping the need to recognise the primacy of the economic agenda in Saarc and appealed for a joint war on poverty. Vajpayee said the need today was a dose of maturity to move from adoloscence to adulthood that would enable putting aside mutual rivalries. Some mindsets may have to be altered and some historical baggage jettisoned, he said adding otherwise it would be betrayal of expectations of the people in the region. Dwelling on terrorism that affects India and some other members of the grouping, Vajpayee said India has been a victim of international terrorism for two decades now. Other countries in our region have also been similarly affected. Terrorism uses different religious, terrritorial, economic and ethnic justifications in different countries. But the end product of mindless violence, civilian casualties, economic disruption and social tensions is the same everywhere, Vajpayee said. The Prime Minister said there was now an international coalition which accepted that terrorism has to be countered in a global and comprehensive manner. The international community has agreed that no country would allow its soil to be used actively or passively to finance, shelter, arm or train terrorist groups. The recent experience of Afghanistan also showed graphically that tolerance, acquiescence or sponsorship of terrorism creates a monster out of the control of its own creator, he said. Apparently referring to the shortcomings in the 1987 Saarc Convention on Suppression of Terrorism, adopted at the Kathmandu Summit then, Vajpayee said as an international measure, it was somewhat ahead of its times. Unfortunately, consequent action was not taken by some countries, he said. Pakistan and Bangladesh are yet to implement national laws mandated under the provisions of the convention. We in South Asia have to recognise that our cooperative future will be significantly influenced by the way in which we can tackle terrorism together. Updating and strengthening the Saarc convention would provide a contemporary framework for cooperation in this area. It would also be a powerful confidence building measure, which would create positive ripples in virtually every area of our interaction within Saarc, Vajpayee said. Mentioning that Saarc turned 16 last month, the Prime Minister said what we need today is the dose of maturity which would lead Saarc from adolescence to adulthood. It would enable us to put aside our mutual rivalries, so that our scarce resources can be concentrated on the pressing agenda of eradication of poverty, hunger, disease and illiteracy. It would not let political obsessions cloud our collective vision of a vibrant and prosperous South Asian community, he said. Recalling his letter to a South Asian colleague reminding him that what was common between the two countries was poverty, he said he had invited him to take the high road of cooperation and reconciliation to satisfy the aspirations of people. From this forum today, I make the same appeal to all the leaders of South Asia : Let us jointly declare war on the poverty which afflicts about half a billion people in our region alone. Let us develop regional poverty alleviation programmes, which would complement our national schemes and strengthen our commitment to implement them, he said. Vajpayee regretted that the independent South Asian Commission on Poverty Alleviation with a membership of eminent South Asians constituted ten years ago never took off. I believe we owe to our people to make another sincere effort. The Poverty Commission still
[CTRL] BJP whipping up war hysteria: Mulayam
-Caveat Lector- http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=1989135633 BJP whipping up war hysteria: Mulayam LUCKNOW: The Samajwadi Party on Saturday alleged that the BJP-led NDA government was creating war hysteria to gain political mileage in the coming elections in some states, including Uttar Pradesh. In an interview, party supremo Mulayam Singh Yadav said the government instead of indulging in rhetorics, should have launched military strikes at the terrorist training camps in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. Had the government heeded our repeated pleas for striking at the PoK terrorist training camps, the December 13 attack on our Parliament would not have taken place, he said. Yadav said the country had always been united in times of external aggression but added that Pakistan was not in a position to commit the misadventure of attacking India. Stating that the ongoing diplomatic offensive against Pakistan should continue, Yadav said the option of dialogue should also be pursued if Pakistan agreed to stop aiding and abetting cross-border terrorism. Referring to the controversial Prevention of Terrorism Ordinance (Poto), the SP leader said the country did not require Poto type laws, which were draconian in nature and likely to be used against political adversaries to settle scores. Yadav, while claiming that the BJP would be reduced to pulp in the coming Assembly elections in UP due to its anti-people and communal policies, said the Rajnath Singh government was bereft of any major poll planks and was trying to whip up communal passions by raking up the Ayodhya issue with the help of RSS, VHP and Bajrang Dal. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] COOPER GRITZ - will the good guy please stand up
In a message dated 1/5/02 11:35:02 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greitz is JDL but not to worry... Grietz is 33rd degree Mason but not to worry... Greitz is ex-special services hired killer who seemed to love his work but that was then, this is now ... I mean, N problem - right? Ya gotta love this guy. Ahem...it's Gritz. Bill.
[CTRL] The Battle for Kashmir
-Caveat Lector- http://www.counterpunch.org/ The Battle for Kashmir Do We Have to Wait for a War to Bring These Politicians to Their Senses? By Tariq Ali Despite pleas of the new pro-Western regime, Afghanistan is still being bombed. Innocent people die every day. Osama bin Laden is still at large, but attention has already shifted to Pakistan. The destabilising effects of the war in Afghanistan were always likely to be felt here first. The reasons are obvious. The Pashtun population in Pakistan's North-Western Frontier Province shares linguistic and ethnic ties with the region that formed the principal base of the Taliban in Afghanistan. The same brand of Deobandi Islam is strong on both sides of the border. It is worth stressing that there was less actual fighting on the ground in the last three months than there has been over the last quarter century. The bearded ones chose not to fight. A sizeable section of the Taliban forces simply came back home to Pakistan. Some of them are undoubtedly demoralised and happy to be alive, but there is probably a large minority that is angered by Islamabad's betrayal and is eager to link up with the armed fundamentalist groups already in the country. The leaders of the most virulent jihadi sects have been arrested, but who will disarm their militants? Until late last year some of the Islamist leaders were boasting that they had chosen 20 cities on which Islamic laws would be imposed. The unstated threat was clear. If any authority attempted to interfere, they would unleash a civil war. When the latest Afghan war began, Washington made no secret of its fear that a massive Western intervention in Afghanistan that overtly used Pakistan as a launching-pad might trigger major unrest or even a coup against a collaborationist regime. The US did everything to maintain decorous appearances for General Musharraf, Pakistan's ruler, while making sure of the practical compliance of Islamabad. In return for this, sanctions were lifted and money and the latest weaponry began to flow into Pakistan once again. But now that the Taliban have been defeated, can anyone be sure that the various fig-leaves will really insulate Pakistan from the indignation of the faithful? Everything depends on the unity of the officer corps. To some degree, if one difficult to gauge, Sunni fundamentalism has also penetrated the ranks of the armed forces. Across the country, radical Islamism of one kind or another is a vocal, if minority, force. General Musharraf's military regime itself is, moreover, a very recent and none-too-strong creation, with little positive civilian support. The abandonment of its own creation in Afghanistan will be a bitter pill for many in the army, especially at junior levels of command, where religious influence is strongest. However, even more secular-minded officers are not pleased at the outcome. The Taliban takeover in Kabul was the Pakistan army's only victory. Privately the ruling elite--officers, bureaucrats and politicians--congratulated each other for having gained a new province. It almost made up for the 1971 defection of Bangladesh. As if to rub salt into the wounds, the Northern Alliance and its Washington-selected Prime Minister, Hamid Karzai, have just declared their intention of forging close relations with India, as was the case from 1947-89. This has further weakened the position of the general ruling Pakistan. It is true that, at more senior levels, the American crusade against the Taliban has been seen as a godsend. For at a stroke it has allowed the Pakistani generals to recover their traditional regional priority for Washington, assured them of credits they desperately need and lifted opposition to their nuclear arsenal. Unlike its Arab counterparts, the Pakistani army has never seen a coup mounted by captains, majors or colonels--when it has seized power, as so often, it has always done so without splits, at the initiative and under the control of its generals (a tradition of discipline inherited from the Raj). At all events, short of a break in this long-established pattern, it seems unlikely that the top-brass of the Pakistani regime will suffer much from the pieces of silver with which they have been showered. However, the scale of the Pakistani defeat is such that, once the flow of money and weapons ceases, General Musharraf might well be toppled from within. Power-hungry generals have never been a rare commodity in Pakistan. This is what makes the tension with India potentially dangerous. The irony is that Pakistan is led by a secular general and India by a fundamentalist Hindu politician: an ideal combination to make peace. Yet on one level it would suit both sides to have a small war. General Musharraf could prove that he was not a total pawn. And Atal Bihari Vajpayee, India's Prime Minster, could win an election. The Kashmiris would continue to suffer. But who could guarantee a small war? The fact is that Pakistan's infiltration of
Re: [CTRL] Taliban leader 'escapes hideout on motorbike
-Caveat Lector- From: Joshua Tinnin [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, this was not unexpected. Omar and bin Laden will either never show up, and possibly then be somehow declared dead, or they will find bodies so torn up and mutilated that there will be no conclusive proof. I opt for the 'never found' gambit; the U.S. needs bin Laden et al, or else it will have to manufacture another patsy or two... Maybe I'm being too pedantic, but really ... Omar escaped with four of his men on a (singular) motorbike ... ??? Even if I'm being nitpicky, and that the motorbike merely implies the vehicle which Omar himself used, with the others perhaps having their own, it still conjured up a funny picture in my mind. And, at the very least, it illustrates a startling lack of intelligence on our part and/or incomplete reporting on how the whole band of five might have traveled, It's also strange, considering how we've been constantly told how bad the roads in Afghanistan are, so bad that mechanized travel becomes nigh on impossible, and the Northern Alliance mostly relies on horses...but somehow Omar and his band of merry men can easily 'escape' via motorbike, and neither U.S. military forces or the Northern Alliance forces notices? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: P.O.D. Docket No. 2/47 -- CAPITAL STUDIOandANTHONYM.GUYTHER
-Caveat Lector- From: Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Was several of unfounded charges Well there were many trials held during 1310 and 1311, and a tribunal of bishops at the end who concurred with the charges and recommended to the Pope to disband the order, so the Roman Catholic Church seems to have felt that the charges were 'founded'... Now I doubt any manly Knight would want a pansy around unless it was to clean up after the horse with a broom. Several of the knights admitted to committing acts of sodomy; of course, these admissions came after torture, so they are admissions of questionably validity... By their fruits you shall know them Something to keep in mind regarding your own posts... June A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] did make a wise decision to post: On 31 Dec 01, at 5:58, Damaeus wrote: 2,500? The last number I heard was closer to 6,000. You have not been keeping up with the news. The current number is about 2500, decreased due to many duplicate names and the fact that some of the missing later were found alive. Well, you're correct. I haven't been keeping up with the news. I got so bored with hearing about the war effort that I just turned it off altogether. I figure that when they find Usama, I'll hear about it here. :-) Damaeus A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] did make a wise decision to post: On 31 Dec 01, at 6:04, Damaeus wrote: I don't mind if the CIA sells me some budz, as long as they do it at a reasonable price and as long as they don't lace it with some uncool additives. Buds? What about cocaine? I'm not particularly interested in cocaine unless I get a sore throat. Lick some cocaine up and your whole mouth will go numb instantly. It would make a great throat lozenge. Damaeus A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, Samantha L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] did make a wise decision to post: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/31/01 6:06:13 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't mind if the CIA sells me some budz, as long as they do it at a reasonable price and as long as they don't lace it with some uncool additives. Or sell it to you and ensure you're caught with it so you can spend 25 years in prison providing cheap labor for multinational corporations all the while being subjected to mind control or other experiments without your consent? Okay, I hear ya. Yeah, that, too. They buy drugs, sell them, confiscate them along with dealer money and assets, sell them again, confiscate them again with even more dealer money and assets, sell them yet again, etc If there is a reason the USA goes to such ridiculous lengths to keep marijuana illegal, it has to be because they make so much money off civil asset forfeiture that making drugs legal would severely cut their funding, not because of taxpayer funding. Damaeus A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, Samantha L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] did make a wise decision to post: In March 2000 already, the weekly magazine Asia Week published in Hongkong worried about the health of Ben Laden, giving a report on a serious physical problem specifying that its days were in danger because of a renal infection which is propagated with the liver and requires specialized care. According to authorized sources', Ben Laden would have been made deliver in his Afghan den of Kandahar the whole of a mobile material of dialysis during the first half of 2000. According to our sources, displacement for health reasons of Ben Laden is not the first. Between 1996 and 1998, Oussama Ben Laden went several times to Dubaï for its business. end quote So he probably really is in some palace in Saudi Arabia right now... All this could be a conspiracy being built. If they can't find Usama, they'll just pull out the old renal story and claim that he's dead, then just hope he doesn't pop up someplace. Then again, that would be foolish because if he does pop up somewhere, then the USA would look very foolish. Oh...they already look foolish. Oh well. Damaeus A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] did make a wise decision to post: On 31 Dec 01, at 15:18, thew wrote: no cocaine growing in that part of the world all that drop in cocaine prices came about with iran contra He was saying that CIA importing drugs was ok because pot prices were low. Not as low as they would be under legalization. Under legalization, even being taxed, I imagine a quarter ounce of pot would sell for around $5.00. Right now it sells for anywhere from $25 to $75. Maybe even more in some areas. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] COOPER GRITZ - will the good guy please stand up
-Caveat Lector- Well there is a person on this list who knows Colonel Gritz very well - if you figure out who it is why not have him contact Gritz for you. Am sure he would love to read some of this stuff. As for Bill Cooper, everybody I know liked Bill Cooper and as I recall Eric was comunicating with him prior to his death. Cooper when on this list and it is still in the archives, took the time to point out who the Communists marxists were who had infiltrated this list for you know these people never join anything they infiltrate? So if you figure out who this individual is maybe they would have Bo write a few words. O'Saba Gritz if a hero and nobody will ever take that from him. They stole John Glenn's medals in 1978 - to show him how close they could get to him but he still ended up one of the greatest heros on earth today. I was fortunate to have spent an evening with Glenn as chairman of a dinner plus a telephone coversation of 45 minutes when he had just gotten off Jackie Kennedy O's yacht.he also visited our Court for he knew my boss quite well. These men are heros and nothing will ever take it back from them - Cooper they murdered, but how many evil people must have planted lies into his ears to turn him against Gritz. For if Cooper was not a Mason, how would he recognize the words whispered into his ears or the handgrip.but then I have the handgrip or one of them..was told similar to KKK grip. College stuff. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Trumped up terrorism numbers
http://www.stpetersburgtimes.com/2002/01/02/news_pf/Opinion/Trumped_up_terrorism_.shtml Trumped up terrorism numbers © St. Petersburg Times, published January 2, 2002 Is a drunk, rowdy passenger on an airplane a terrorist? Is a man who pushes a judge? They are according to annual reports from the Department of Justice. An investigation by the Miami Herald found that the department routinely overstates the number of terrorist arrests and convictions it makes every year. It does so, apparently, to cook the numbers for Congress, as a way to justify its annual $22-billion budget of which counterterrorism is a part. In the department's most recent annual report, released in May, the department claims there were 236 terrorism convictions in the fiscal year ending September 2000. But when pressed to provide specifics, the department refused to release information backing up that number or disclosing the details of those convictions. In its investigation, Herald reporters reviewed dozens of so-called terrorism cases over a five-year period, examining files obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. The reporters found that numerous convictions labeled as terrorism were just ordinary crimes, having nothing to do with a politically motivated agenda. For example, the department listed as a case of domestic terrorism, the conviction of a man from Arizona who got drunk while returning from Shanghai. He had continually demanded liquor and manhandled a flight attendant. The judge in the case called it a case of a man "being an annoyance beyond belief," but not terrorism. According to the department, terrorism was also involved in the case of an Ecuadorian man who tried smuggling 12 guns from Miami to his home country for the purpose of reselling them. And the conviction of seven Chinese sailors was counted as terrorism after they commandeered a boat in order to sail it into U.S. territorial waters to ask for political asylum. Disturbingly, the federal prosecutor office in San Francisco was the office that listed the most cases of domestic terrorism over the past three years. For much of that time, Robert Mueller, now director of the FBI, was at its helm. Especially now, following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, Congress and the public have a right to expect that any reports to come out of the department provide a full and accurate accounting of the level of domestic terror activities in the United States. If prosecutions of al-Qaida members are combined with those of drunken airline passengers, it will be impossible to gauge which offenses constitute real terrorism and which have been listed as such merely to pad the numbers. The findings of the Herald investigation are serious enough to justify a congressional inquiry. The department's terrorism numbers are generated as part of the auditing process that evaluates the level of performance for each of the 94 federal prosecutor's offices. It appears Congress is being misled as to what our tax money is actually buying.
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Electromagnetic Bombs Could Throw Civilization Back 200 Years
---BeginMessage--- This e-bomb is of course pure bullshit. I can not imagine the motivations that provoke anyone to write such things. Is it done so the writer can feel smarter than the fools who believe him? Now a 100 kilo ton hydrogen bomb exploded over Kansas City at high noon would emit an ELECTRO MAGNATIC PULSE (EMP) of one million electron volts that would have the effect this writer discribes. Forget the glowing floresent bulbs and TVs glowing. All semi conductors would be gone. Detonated at high noon no one would see a flash or hear a boom. Experts disagree on whether one would be suficient to disable the entire US or if it would take 3 or 4 as if that matters. Bush wants to place weapons in space. This is one of a thousand reasons this idea is insane. Brian Quig http://popularmechanics.com/science/military/2001/9/e-bomb/print.phtml Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/xYTolB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- Please let us stay on topic and be civil. To unsubscribe please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs -Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Title: Electromagnetic Bombs Could Throw Civilization Back 200 Years border=0 height="60" width="468" E-BOMB In the blink of an eye, electromagnetic bombs could throw civilization back 200 years. And terrorists can build them for $400. BY JIM WILSON Lead illustration by Edwin Herder The next Pearl Harbor will not announce itself with a searing flash of nuclear light or with the plaintive wails of those dying of Ebola or its genetically engineered twin. You will hear a sharp crack in the distance. By the time you mistakenly identify this sound as an innocent clap of thunder, the civilized world will have become unhinged. Fluorescent lights and television sets will glow eerily bright, despite being turned off. The aroma of ozone mixed with smoldering plastic will seep from outlet covers as electric wires arc and telephone lines melt. Your Palm Pilot and MP3 player will feel warm to the touch, their batteries overloaded. Your computer, and every bit of data on it, will be toast. And then you will notice that the world sounds different too. The background music of civilization, the whirl of internal-combustion engines, will have stopped. Save a few diesels, engines will never start again. You, however, will remain unharmed, as you find yourself thrust backward 200 years, to a time when electricity meant a lightning bolt fracturing the night sky. This is not a hypothetical, son-of-Y2K scenario. It is a realistic assessment of the damage the Pentagon believes could be inflicted by a new generation of weapons--E-bombs. The first major test of an American electromagnetic bomb is scheduled for next year. Ultimately, the Army hopes to use E-bomb technology to explode artillery shells in midflight. The Navy wants to use the E-bomb's high-power microwave pulses to neutralize antiship missiles. And, the Air Force plans to equip its bombers, strike fighters, cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles with E-bomb capabilities. When fielded, these will be among the most technologically sophisticated weapons the U.S. military establishment has ever built. There is, however, another part to the E-bomb story, one that military planners are reluctant to discuss. While American versions of these weapons are based on advanced technologies, terrorists could use a less expensive, low-tech approach to create the same destructive power. "Any nation with even a 1940s technology base could make them," says Carlo Kopp, an Australian-based expert on high-tech warfare. "The threat of E-bomb proliferation is very real." POPULAR MECHANICS estimates a basic weapon could be built for $400. An Old Idea Made NewThe theory behind
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Federal Reserve must be held accountable
---BeginMessage--- 12:39p ET Saturday, January 5, 2002 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: Ralph Nader's latest newspaper column, appended here, describes the conference he has called for Monday in Washington about the work of the Federal Reserve. GATA Chairman Bill Murphy will attend and call attention to the Fed's role in surreptitiously suppressing the gold price. CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. * * * By Ralph Nader The Federal Reserve wields enormous power over the national economy. Its decisions have a major impact on every citizen. Jobs, shelter, and the quality of life are greatly affected by what the Federal Reserve decides on monetary policy. Yet the Federal Reserve is allowed to make its decisions in secret. The transcripts and minutes of the meetings are carefully sanitized before they are released. For example, when the Federal Reserve voted to lend money to Mexico, the Fed's records were carefully redacted to keep the details of the transactions secret. In a recent article in Barron's Magazine, Dr. Robert Auerbach, who investigated the Federal Reserve as staff economist for the Banking Committee of the House of Representatives, recounts numerous incidents in which Fed minutes were destroyed or heavily edited when the Fed made critical decisions. Auerbach, other economists, and long-time observers of the Federal Reserve will be gathering at the National Press Club in Washington on Monday to discuss what goes on behind those tightly-locked doors at the Federal Reserve. In sponsoring this conference, it is my hope that we can place a spotlight on this dark corner of our democracy and begin a campaign for a more open process in establishing economic policies that affect the daily lives of working families and well-being of the entire economy. The kind of secrecy and closed-door government carried out by the Federal Reserve has no place in a democratic system. In addition to exemptions from open government requirements such as the Sunshine Act, the Federal Reserve does not face the normal checks and balances of the congressional appropriations and budget process. It drafts its own budgets and spends whatever it desires without seeking permission from Congress. It is little wonder that the Federal Reserve feels free to operate as virtually a separate government. One of the experts who will appear at our conference is William Greider, a long-time journalist, who wrote the book Secrets of the Temple, a carefully researched tome which has become a must-read for students of the Federal Reserve. Keynote speaker for the conference will be James Galbraith, Ph.D at the LBJ School of Government at the University of Texas, who has written and lectured extensively on the Federal Reserve and who is rapidly becoming the nation's most outspoken and best informed critic of the the Federal Reserve and monetary policy. In addition to setting interest rates in carrying out monetary policy, the Federal Reserve has wide-ranging regulatory power for consumer protection over the financial community. It is strange indeed that this power would be exercised by the current chairman of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, whose past would give little comfort to anyone who believes in regulatory protections. Greenspan was an early follower of Ayn Rand, the leader of the Objectivists, an anti-government collective. Greenspan collaborated with Rand in writing Capitalism: the Unknown Ideal, in which he denounced regulation, particularly consumer protections and anti-trust laws, which he described as cardinal ingredients of welfare statism. Later Greenspan became a lobbyist for the financial industry against regulation and represented some of the high flyers-like Charlie Keating of Lincoln Savings, who plundered the savings and loan industry. So we plan for our conference to take a deep look at how well this former foe of regulation is representing the public in his current position as chief government regulator of banks, big financial services corporations, and the economy. The conference is titled The Federal Reserve-Reality versus Myth. We hope that our panel of experts will be able to unravel some of the myths that have allowed the Federal Reserve to escape accountability for so long to the detriment of the vast number of working Americans and our democratic system of government. -END- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/WfTolB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
[CTRL] Arafat Plans Declaration of War of Liberation
-Caveat Lector- CAVEAT LECTOR: Though the Debka File has proven to be reliable in the past, it is believed to be an outlet for the Mossad. All information put out by intelligence sources are put out for a reason, and should be takes with a grain of salt. -- Nurev Arafat Plans Declaration of War of Liberation * The day US Middle East envoy Anthony Zinni returned to the region, DEBKAfile's Palestinian sources quoted Yasser Arafat as confiding to his intimates that he was drafting his most important speech in two decades: a declaration of the Palestinian War of Liberation. He promised to wait until after retired general Zinni had left, adding: There's a limit to our patience! From Arafat's point of view, US peace and ceasefire initiatives have all been wasted enterprises - whether Camp David, Taba, Paris, Cairo, Sharm el-Sheikh, or the Tenet ceasefire proposal and the Mitchell blueprint - and he would make envoy Zinni admit failure. Arafat believes his declaration will fire up the Palestinian and Arab masses and draw them into a new cycle of hostilities against Israel. What hurts Arafat the most, aside from the loss of his own masses' enthusiasm for the struggle, is the desertion of Arab leaders. None are rushing to rescue him from his state of confinement in Ramallah and international isolation. Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak, Jordanian King Abdullah and Gulf and Saudi leaders have not even made courtesy phone calls in sympathy with his plight. The Israelis do not bother to conceal that their tanks are merely churning mud as a polite gesture for Zinni rather than seriously relaxing their closures of Palestinian cities. The 10 yards they pulled back Thursday are easily covered when he leaves. Israeli tanks remain within sight of Arafat's headquarters in Ramallah. Israel promises to keep them there until the Palestinians hand over the murderers of cabinet minister Zeevi. Raids into Palestinian territory to round up suspected terrorists also continues unabated. But the most painful slap in the face was delivered by Arab League secretary general Amr Moussa, who as Egyptian foreign minister was the most fervent champion of Arafat's Intifada. In comments still echoing round the Arab world, Moussa declared last week that it was time for Arafat and the Palestinians to realize they had become incidental to current history and no longer of interest in the Arab world, which faces more acute problems. He reflected an Arab consensus when he urged the Palestinians to give up their battle for a final-status peace treaty with Israel and settle for the most they could get: a limited interim accord. Blows from Washington are coming thick and fast on Arab heads, in the form of new appointments that signal a sharp about-turn from President Clinton sympathetic consideration of Arab viewpoints. One such appointment is that of the hawkish State Department official John Bolton as secretary of state for arms control and international security affairs - over the objections of secretary of state Colin Powell. A strong opponent of regional and international treaties on these issues and advocate of bilateral US ad hoc agreements with individual countries, his appointment means that the Bush administration has turned its back on Egyptian-led Arab demands to make Israel sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and accept nuclear disarmament in the Middle East. United States will henceforth deal directly with Israel on such issues, bypassing regional Arab involvement. Arab leaders are also disturbed by the loss of another Clinton holdover, Bruce Reidel, as head of the US National Security Council's Middle East desk. The Sharon government will not mourn his loss. Reidel was the hand behind many an Israeli media campaign alleging US pressure on Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to make concessions to the Palestinians in the interests of keeping an Arab coalition lined up behind US policies. Reidel is replaced by Zalmay Khalilzad, an Afghan-American who has had little to do with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. In 1998, Khalilzad co-signed a letter to Clinton, calling on him to topple Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. His emphasis is expected to focus on Afghanistan - not Palestine. Moussa knew what he was talking about when he spoke of the Palestinian issue's weakened impact in the world arena. Closer to home, Jordan's King Abdullah fired his military intelligence chief, General Zahar al-Fawaz, in a surprise move that astounded its object. His replacement is General Tahseen Shrdum, a Circassian of Chechen descent, who served on the Jordanian teams that drew up Jordan's peace treaty with Israel. This changeover is a blatant strengthening of the pro-Israeli element in Jordanian military intelligence - and reflects the Jordanian monarch's determination to keep up with the fast-moving Middle East changes reflected in
[CTRL] Rights, rights, rights
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.orlingrabbe.com/politically_confused.htm }}}Begin Speaking Safely on Public Issues A Guide for the Confused by George F. Smith I offer the following guide for those Americans who may be asked to speak on political issues but are confused about what to say. Since issues can be annoyingly fickle hot one day, dead the next I've tried to keep the commentary confined to the principles that underlie them. The most glaring fact common to all political issues is the monopoly on coercive power we've assigned to the government. We have a Constitution limiting that power, but it's been found guilty of impeding progress and has been imprisoned in a glass case. Now mostly unrestrained by that document, the government regards the private sector as one vast bank account it can draw on without limit and as a herd it will sacrifice any which way it can. This change is no accident. People accepting certain tenets of Judeo-Christian ethics, in otherworldly form or secular, fashioned the government to rule our lives like God on earth or Big Brother. Which people? Political candidates frothing altruistic bromides and the voters who empowered them. The government has thus become a super-entity liberated from morality. It can do just about anything and get away with it even rewarded for it while we can do almost nothing that is not a crime. Americans once lived private lives of productive pursuit and entrusted the government with national defense and courts of law. Now almost everyone plays follow the mone y by lobbying plunder-rich demagogues to protect their interests. Thus, as you approach any political issue, think power the coercive power of the government. Think it but don't say it. Let's apply this advice to the idea of rights. It would be helpful to know what rights means, but in political discourse defining your terms will offend your audience. Thanks to government schooling, people believe anyo ne can define anything any way they want. If you hit them with definitions, your audience will think you're being disingenuous. Instead of defining what you're talking about, say this: I believe in rights but I also believe rights impose responsibilities. At this point, pause and wait for a smattering of applause. Many Americans are sick of talk about rights rights, rights, rights, that's all they hear. They associate rights with selfishness, which they connect with evil . You're going to tell them something about responsibilities, and they like that. So tell them rights are conditional. People don't get them unless they finish their supper, so to speak. (Being folksy will help your case. ) The word impose cues government to make its grand entrance. We don't have to wait for people to choose to be responsible Big Brother will make the choice for them. It's part of the morality-is-commandments-from-a-high er-power concept the higher power personified by our elected elite, in this case. Give your listeners a few examples to illustrate your meaning. First example your right to life. Yes, it's a right you have provided you get off your backside and earn it. It's your reward for serving others others here referring to your country. How you serve will be determi ned by feckless bureaucrats. Traditionally, it means your country can draft you into the army for the purpose of killing or intimidating its enemies. Of course, not everyone is fit for draftee duty, which is why it's call ed selective service. Those who can't make the cut militarily will be put to work in some other altruistic fashion, most likely on the home front, but possibly in another country. Incidentally, you should get in the habit of saying our country instead of our government. It sounds patriotic and puts opposing views dangerously close to treason. Never use country to refer to private individuals. Here's another example your right to keep the money you earn. No problem but with it comes the duty to help the underprivileged. You, being lucky enough to have a job, have hogged more than your fair share if you're l iving above the poverty line. Therefore, it is your country's responsibility to seize what rightfully belongs to others and give it back to them, after skimming a dollar or two off the top for overhead. Discuss other rights in similar fashion tell your audience you have rights only if you pay your country back for giving them to you. Rights come with a bill, and the collector is always Uncle Sam. This explains why we g rant unlimited power to the government. A corollary of conditional rights is unconditional entitlements. As the country collects on your responsibilities, it has to do something with the loot. Since serving others is the accepted moral ideal, establishing entit lements completes the circuit of wealth transfer in a manner consistent with altruist standards. Here's where you can give your listeners some ammunition to use
[CTRL] Israel/Occupied Territories: Detention and beatings underline
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ---BeginMessage--- * News Release Issued by the International Secretariat of Amnesty International * 3 January 2002 MDE 15/001/2002 1/02 The detention and beating of a prominent doctor and human rights defender, and the beating of members of an international delegation underlines the Israeli authorities' apparent disregard for basic human rights during the current intifada, Amnesty International said today. Dr Mustafa Barghouti, President of the Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees, was arrested on 2 January 2002 after a press conference with the participation of an international delegation including Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) and delegates from the USA and many European countries. Dr Barghouti was arrested as he left the conference -- where he had spoken about the disastrous impact on medical treatment and care of the Israeli closures of towns and villages in the Occupied Territories -- on the grounds that he had no Israeli pass to enter Jerusalem, where he was born. He was released at al-Ram checkpoint between Jerusalem and Ramallah after four hours' detention at the Moscobiyeh Detention Centre in Jerusalem. The beating by Israeli border police took place later that day at the al-Ram checkpoint as international delegates protested at attempts to rearrest Dr Barghouti. Dr Barghouti was released after an hour, with a fractured kneecap and various lacerations and bruises on his face and body. Some international delegates, including Italian MEP Luisa Morgantini, suffered bruises and other injuries. Dr Mustafa Barghouti, who has a world-wide reputation, has been released. However, he is not the first human rights activist to be ill-treated and arrested -- others remain under administrative detention orders which allow indefinite detention without charge or trial, added the organization. These include Abed al-Rahman al-Ahmar, a fieldworker for the Palestinian Human Rights Monitoring Group, who was arrested in Jerusalem in May 2001 because he had no pass, and Daoud al-Dar'awi, a staff member of the Palestinian Independent Commission for Citizens' Rights, arrested in September 2001, who was placed under administrative detention in October immediately after a judge ordered his release on bail. Abed al-Rahman al-Ahmar said he was beaten after arrest and both were reportedly subjected to prolonged sleep deprivation in painful positions under interrogation. The Israeli army responsible for the beating of Dr Barghouti and international delegates is also responsible for repeatedly shooting and killing Palestinians at checkpoints and during demonstrations when the lives of others were not in danger, Amnesty International said. More than 700 Palestinians -- including more than 160 children -- have been killed by Israeli security forces since October 2000. Most of these were unlawful killings, yet only the killings of 13 Palestinians with Israeli citizenship in September and October 2000 are being properly investigated. The failure to hold proper investigations into every killing has created an atmosphere where nervous or reckless members of the security forces kill or injure Palestinians with impunity, Amnesty International added. A new mindset which fully respects human rights will not come into being unless all killings, injuries, instances of ill-treatment and other human rights violations are considered important and adequately investigated, the organization warned. You may repost this message onto other sources provided the main text is not altered in any way and both the header crediting Amnesty International and this footer remain intact. Only the list subscription message may be removed. To subscribe to amnesty-L, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe amnesty-L in the message body. To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe amnesty-L in the message body. If you have problem signing off, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]. [EMAIL PROTECTED] handles only messages concerning list administration. Past and current Amnesty news services can be found at http://www.amnesty.org/news/. Visit http://www.amnesty.org for information about Amnesty International and for other AI publications. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you need to get in touch with the International Secretariat of Amnesty International. ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] N Webster
-Caveat Lector- On 5 Jan 02, at 6:58, Jim Rarey wrote: Nesta Webster was a woman! And? Seems like she was well positioned to be able to gather information as relates to the subject at hand. I think there were a lot of women who came to the fore about the time of the 1st War to End All Wars (WEAW) who had quite an effect on the later parts of the 20th century. Sufficient suffrage without stifling sufferance. Amelia, Gertrude, and others. AER A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Herzl: 1896
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1896herzl.html }}}Begin Back to Modern History SourceBook Modern History Sourcebook: Theodor Herzl: On the Jewish State, 1896 There were Jew leaders who called for the return of the Jews to Palestine for decades before Theodor Herzl (1860 1904) wrote his influential pamphlet, The Jewish State. But Herzl's work pushed the formation of a political movement to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The first Zionist Congress, convened by Herzl, was held in Basel, Switzerland, in 1897. Herzl was less attached to Palestine than some other Zionists, and considered at one stage the creation of a Jewish state in what is now Uganda. The idea which I have developed in this pamphlet is a very old one: it is the restoration of the Jewish State. The world resounds with outcries against the Jews, and these outcries have awakened the slumbering idea. . . . We are a people-one people. We have honestly endeavored everywhere to merge ourselves in the social life of surrounding communities and to preserve the faith of our fathers. We are not permitted to do so. In vain are we loyal patriots, our loyalty in some places running to extremes; in vain do we make the same sacrifices of life and property as our fellowcitizens; in vain do we strive to increase the fame of our native land in science and art, or her wealth by trade and commerce. In countries where we have lived for centuries we are still cried down as strangers, and often by those whose ancestors were not yet domiciled in the land where Jews had already had experience of suffering. The majority may decide which are the strangers; for this, as indeed every point which arises in the relations between nations, is a question of might. I do not here surrender any portion of our prescriptive right, when I make this statement merely in my own name as an individual. In the world as it now is and for an indefinite period will probably remain, might precedes right. It is useless, therefore, for us to be loyal patriots, as were the Huguenotsl who were forced to emigrate. If we could only be left in peace . . . [However,] oppression and persecution cannot exterminate us. No nation on earth has survived such struggles and sufferings as we have gone through. Jew-baiting has merely stripped off our weaklings; the strong among us we re invariably true to their race when persecution broke out against them However much I may worship personality-powerful individual personality in statesmen, inventors, artists, philosophers, or leaders, as well as the collective personality of a historic group of human beings, which we call a nation-however much I may worship personality, I do not regret its disappearance. Whoever can, will, and must perish, let him perish. But the distinctive nationality of Jews neither can, will, nor must be destroyed. It c annot be destroyed, because extemal enemies consolidate it. It will not be destroyed; this is shown during two thousand years of appalling suffering. It must not be destroyed Whole branches of Judaism may wither and fall, but the trunk will remain. . . . The Jewish Question No one can deny the gravity of the situation of the Jews. Wherever they live in perceptible numbers, they are more or less persecuted. Their equality before the law, granted by statute, has become practically a dead lette r. They are debarred from filling even moderately high positions, either in the army, or in any public or private capacity. And attempts are made to thrust them out of business also: Don't buy from Jews! Attacks in Parliaments, in assemblies, in the press, in the pulpit, in the street, on journeys- for example, their exclusion from certain hotels-even in places of recreation, become daily more numerous. The forms of perse cutions varying according to the countries and social circles in which they occur . . . The Plan Let the sovereignty be granted us over a portion of the globe large enough to satisfy the rightful requirements of a nation; the rest we shall manage for ourselves. The creation of a new State is neither ridiculous nor impossible. We have in our day witnessed the process in connection with nations which were not largely members of the middle class, but poorer, less educated, and cons equently weaker than ourselves. The Governments of all countries scourged by Anti-Semitism will be keenly interested in assisting us to obtain the sovereignty we want. The plan, simple in design, but complicated in execution, will be carried out by two agencies: The Society of Jews and the Jewish Company. The Society of Jews will do the preparatory work in the domains of science and politics, which the Jewish Company will afterwards apply practically. The Jewish Company will be the liquidating agent of the business interests of departing Jews, and will organize commerce and trade in the new country. We must not imagine the departure of the Jews
[CTRL] Fwd: [corp-focus] The Boeing Boondoggle
---BeginMessage--- The Boeing Boondoggle By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman Even old Washington hands sometimes find themselves with their mouths agape at the brazenness of the latest corporate innovation in ripping off the public. Such a jaw-dropping moment occurred in December, as Boeing-friendly members of Congress inserted a provision in the Defense Appropriations bill requiring the Air Force to lease Boeing 767s. Under the Boeing lease provision, the Air Force will lease 100 Boeing 767s for use as tankers, over a 10-year period. Follow the bouncing ball to see exactly how outrageous this deal is. First off, these are planes even the Air Force doesn't want, or least not enough to include in a list of its top 60 priorities. The request for the planes did not appear in the president's budget, or in the bill considered by the relevant Congressional appropriations subcommittees. As the full Senate appropriations committee was considering the Defense appropriations bill, the lease provision was inserted at the last minute at the behest of Senator Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, the ranking member of the Senate appropriations committee, and Patty Murray, D-Washington. (Murray apparently retains her loyalty to Boeing, even though the company has moved its headquarters out of Seattle.) Second, the lease arrangement will be far more expensive than an outright purchase would be. The Air Force will lease the planes at a pricetag of $20 million per plane per year, for a $20 billion expenditure (100 planes, 10 years). There are laws prohibiting lease arrangements that are more expensive than direct purchases, but Congress waived those rules in appropriating the money for the Boeing 767s. Third, the government will accrue extra expenses to convert the commercial aircraft to military configurations. The cost will be about $30 million a plane (total cost: $3 billion). There's more: Because the planes are to be acquired through lease, rather than sale, the government has to return the planes to Boeing -- in the condition in which they were purchased. When the 10-year lease is over, it will cost the government another $30 million a plane to reconfigure the planes back to commercial format. That's a total of another $3 billion. To his credit, Senator John McCain, R-Arizona, tried valiantly to block the deal, but with no success. The Boeing giveaway, he said, I'm sure is the envy of corporate lobbyists from one end of K Street to the other. McCain estimated the cost of lease deal was, in total, more than five times the cost of outright purchase. A coalition of individuals and citizen groups from across the political spectrum joined McCain in denouncing the gross exhibition of corporate welfare. In a joint letter, Ralph Nader, Public Citizen, the Project on Government Oversight, the Congressional Accountability Project, Taxpayers for Common Sense, Ronnie Dugger of the Alliance for Democracy, Grover Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform, Citizens Against Government Waste and the National Taxpayers Union argued that, If some in Congress believe Boeing needs to be subsidized, then they should propose direct subsidies to the company, and let Congress fully debate and vote on the issue before the American people, following comprehensive public hearings on the proposal. But even as McCain and the citizen groups sounded the alarm, not only did the appropriations bill speed through Congress, it actually got worse. In conference committee, where different versions of bills passed by the House of Representatives and Senate are reconciled, negotiators added a provision for the 10-year lease of four Boeing 737s. These were designated for executive travel, but will likely be used primarily for Members of Congress. The whole package has now been enacted into law. Why did Congress agree to this plunder of public resources? Key committee members -- Stevens, Murray, plus Representative Norm Dicks, D-Washington, in the House of Representatives -- pushed hard for the lease arrangement. They proceeded with stealth, moving when their few opponents would have virtually no opportunity to block the deal. In the wartime hysteria, money is flowing freely to the Pentagon -- apparently even for items the Defense Department doesn't particularly want. There also seemed to be a sense that the lease giveaway was a consolation prize for Boeing, which recently lost out to Lockheed in the bidding to be primary contractor on the new Joint Strike Fighter -- a project worth a tidy $200 billion. It's hard to find words to describe the obscenity of the Boeing boondoggle. Consider this: While the U.S. government will be spending more than $25 billion on planes even the Air Force does not want, it is refusing to spend more than a couple hundred million dollars a year on the Global Fund for AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis. The money wasted on those planes could literally save millions of lives. Russell Mokhiber is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based
[CTRL] The New New World Order -- Israel and India Gleefully Follow America's Lead
-Caveat Lector- --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], M. L. Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The New New World Order - Israel and India Gleefully Follow America's Lead You Must Comply, Resistance Is Futile ...Then we are left with only the option that the United States exercised to deal with terrorism. Defense Minister of India MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 1/4/2001: The Americans and the Israelis are clearly running the show now -- aided by the many client regimes set up in key countries including Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, UAE, Qatar, and Egypt; and with much strengthened alliances with other key countries including India and Turkey. As for the Europeans, when it comes to the Middle East, these days they are primarily used as money bags for Arafat and promoters of the apartheid-style Peace Process (no matter what the apologists try to call it); as well as for diplomatic support to further craft the new New World Order -- itself primarily of CIA, Pentagon and Treasury Department design. Pakistan is clearly being terribly squeezed and threatened harder than ever before. General Musharraf has been given few choices -- he must assist the U.S. to assert control over the region, he must end support for the liberation struggle in Kashmir, and he must cooperate in recasting Pakistani society with special emphasis on the Muslim- oriented educational system which ironically heretofore has been primarily Saudi supported. If he does not comply, support for his regime will be withdrawn and his own country will be directly targeted and forced to submit. When it comes to the Middle East -- in addition to the Hashemites, the al-Sauds, and the other lesser Arab client-regimes -- the best the Americans have for controlling the Palestinians is the Arafat regime, and they know it. So Arafat and his more-than-ever despised VIP entourage are now being forced to take a strategic decision to more totally control, co-opt and crush the liberation struggle in Palestine. If Arafat and cronies do not comply support for their regime with be withdrawn, the money will stop flowing, and the Palestinian people will be subjected to more direct and more naked forms of repression and subjugation. Both India and Israel are now seizing the moment to enforce their own regional dictate, a la the Americans. Everything is reduced to they are terrorists. The you are either with us or against us mantra has been gleefully seized upon by those who rule in Delhi and Jerusalem. The courageous fighters in Kashmir, along with those in Palestine, are ever so simplistically and erroneous reduced to mini-caricatures of Osama bin Laden. Decades of U.N. resolutions demanding Israeli and Indian recognition of basic Palestinian and Kashmiri rights are cast to the wind. Any semblance of historical awareness -- not to mention real justice, freedom, and democracy -- is not only forgotten but even those who raise the issues and remind the world of the complex historical context, not to mention those who try to help with tangible and financial assistance, now run the risk of being branded supporters of terrorism. ISRAEL AIDS INDIA IN COMBATING TERROR An Israel-India joint committee on terrorism will meet in Israel for the first time this month to discuss common terror threats. The meeting was coordinated following India's request for assistance in establishing an anti-terror network. Last month Moslem separatists launched an assault on the Indian Parliament in New Delhi, killing eight persons. Earlier this month, Indian security services in the Kashmir apprehended five terrorists, some of whom are affiliated with the al-Qaeda network. The Indian government expressed interest in purchasing the Arrow anti-missile missile from Israel, which to date has not been supplied to foreign countries. Two weeks ago, political dialogue took place in New Delhi between an Israel delegation, including senior Foreign Ministry officials, and the head of the Indian Foreign Ministry. The Indian representatives said that they strongly desire to strengthen their ties with Israel. (Arutz 7 Israeli news service - affiliated with Israeli settlers movement). INDIA SAYS PAKISTAN AIDS OUSTED EXTREMISTS By David R. Sands [The Washington Times, Washington, 1/4/02]: Indian intelligence sources yesterday accused Pakistani security forces of encouraging armed Islamic extremists fleeing the U.S.-led offensive in Afghanistan to relocate to new camps in and around the disputed province of Kashmir. Pakistan immediately denied the charges, but Indian sources insisted that the cadres are being relocated to fuel Pakistani-backed separatist movements in Kashmir and to divert the anger and bitterness of the fighters away from the government in Islamabad. You can take this information as coming from very reliable sources, said one Indian government official, who refused to speak on the record about the charges. The Pakistan government yesterday angrily rejected the
[CTRL] Herzl's Dream: Half Century Too Late ?
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/biography/Herzl.html }}}Begin Theodor (Binyamin Zeev) Herzl (1860-1904) In Basle I founded the Jewish state . . . Maybe in five years, certainly in fifty, everyone will realize it. Theodor (Binyamin Zeev) Herzl, the visionary of Zionism, was born in Budapest in 1860. He was educated in the spirit of the GermanJewish Enlightenment of the period, learning to appreciate secular culture. In 1878 the family moved to Vienna, and in 1884 Herzl was awarded a doctorate of law from the University of Vienna. He became a writer, a playwright and a journalist. The Paris correspondent of the influential liberal Vienna newspaper Neue Freie Presse was none other than Theodor Herzl. Herzl first encountered the anti-Semitism that would shape his life and the fate of the Jews in the twentieth century while studying at the University of Vienna (1882). Later, during his stay in Paris as a journalist, he was brought face-to-face with the problem. At the time, he regarded the Jewish problem as a social issue and wrote a drama, The Ghetto (1894), in which assimilation and conversion are rejected as solutions. He hoped that The Ghetto would lead to debate and ultimately to a solution, based on mutual tolerance and respect between Christians and Jews. The Dreyfus Affair In 1894, Captain Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish officer in the French army, was unjustly accused of treason, mainly because of the prevailing anti-Semitic atmosphere. Herzl witnessed mobs shouting Death to the Jews in France, the home of the French Revolution, and resolved that there was only one solution: the mass immigration of Jews to a land that they could call their own. Thus, the Dreyfus Case became one of the determinants in the genesi s of Political Zionism. Herzl concluded that anti-Semitism was a stable and immutable factor in human society, which assimilation did not solve. He mulled over the idea of Jewish sovereignty, and, despite ridicule from Jewish leaders, published Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State, 1896). Herzl argued that the essence of the Jewish problem was not individual but national. He declared that the Jews could gain acceptance in the world only if they ceased being a nation al anomaly. The Jews are one people, he said, and their plight could be transformed into a positive force by the establishment of a Jewish state with the consent of the great powers. He saw the Jewish question as an inter national political question to be dealt with in the arena of international politics. Herzl proposed a practical program for collecting funds from Jews around the world by a company to be owned by stockholders, which would work toward the practical realization of this goal. (This organization, when it was eventually formed, was called the Zionist Organization.) He saw the future state as a model social state, basing his ideas on the European model of the time, of a modern enlightened society. It would be neutral and peace- seeking, and of a secular nature. In his Zionist novel, Altneuland (Old New Land, 1902), Herzl pictured the future Jewish state as a socialist utopia. He envisioned a new society that was to rise in the Land of Israel on a cooperative basis utilizing scie nce and technology in the development of the Land. He included detailed ideas about how he saw the future state's political structure, immigration, fundraising, diplomatic relations, social laws and relations between religion and the state. In Altneuland, the Jewish state was foreseen as a pluralist, advanced society, a light unto the nations. This book had a great impact on the Jews of the time and became a symbol of the Zionist vision in the Land of Israel. A Movement Is Started Herzl's ideas were met with enthusiasm by the Jewish masses in Eastern Europe, although Jewish leaders were less ardent. Herzl appealed to wealthy Jews such as Baron Hirsch and Baron Rothschild, to join the national Zioni st movement, but in vain. He then appealed to the people, and the result was the convening of the First Zionist Congress in Basle, Switzerland, on August 2931, 1897. The Congress was the first interterritorial gathering of Jews on a national and secular basis. Here the delegates adopted the Basle Program, the program of the Zionist movement, and declared Zionism seeks to establish a home for the Jewish people in Palestine secured under public law. At the Congress the World Zionist Organization was established as the political arm of the Jewish people, and Herzl was elected its first president. Herzl convened six Zionist Congresses between 1897 and 1902. It was here that the tools for Zionist activism were forged: Otzar Hityashvut Hayehudim; the Jewish National Fund and the movement's newspaper Die Welt. After the First Zionist Congress, the movement met yearly at an international Zionist Congress. In 1936 the center of the Zionist movement was transferred to Jerusalem.
Re: [CTRL] British-Israel Doctrine of the Lost Tribes
-Caveat Lector- Saba wrote: -Caveat Lector- You know as I recall and correct me if I am in error, Japeth from whom I am descended on both sides of the family, disappeared before all this race mixing began? Not much recorded in this jewish bible and Talmud about Japheth right other than he is tall, white, and handsome? Like not short, dumpy and brown? Saba You silly old turd. Have you EVER lived in reality? J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) The Prisoner Online Discussion 1-11-02
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:02:23 -0500 To: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:The Prisoner Online Discussion 1-11-02 [Note from Matthew Gaylor: Laissez Faire Books is hosting an online discussion board for the great anti-totalitarian TV series The Prisoner. If you're not familiar with this series you're in for a treat- The series only lasted for 17 episodes in 1967 but has developed a large cult following and I'll see on occasion people wearing T-shirts with a quote from the Series: I am not a number . . .I'm a free man! Go to http://laissezfairebooks.com/ for more details.] At 3:33 PM -0800 1/4/02, Laissez Faire Books wrote: Julian Sanchez will be hosting a discussion board on The Prisoner Series. Come join in and pick Julian's brain on the series or discuss it's finer points with other fans. This board will begin on January 11th, get your questions ready! == RECENTLY ARRIVED IN STOCK THE PRISONER Complete Set on DVD By Patrick McGoohan AE Television, 2001 One of the most challenging and thought-provoking television series of all time, THE PRISONER is the strange saga of a former government operative (Patrick McGoohan) sent to a twisted prison called the village. Known only as No. 6, he engages in a battle of wills with the powers that be (represented by the nefarious and constantly changing No. 2 and a bizarre, chilling presence called the Rover) that wish to extract his secrets and break his spirit. Digitally re-mastered and presented in its original order, this set includes all seventeen episodes of the unforgettable series that introduced a whole new type of hero to the TV world. FN8564, 10 DVD Videos, 884 min List Price: $199.75 Our Price: $149.95 You Save: $49.80 (25%) http://www.laissezfairebooks.com/product.cfm?op=viewpid=FN8564aid=1 0154 ** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ ** --- End of forwarded message --- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] surveillance society
-Caveat Lector- --- Valued User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok.. we have too much redundancy here... hopefully someone knows enough to tell which systems are obsolete and which systems have been absorbed into other systems. off the top of my head we have... echelon not obsolete just more limited since its awareness campaign... promis more important is that covenant, oops i mean promis, has been suplemented by Brainstorm...AI prog designed to turn thinking habits into predictable vectors of probability to predict when a person or an army was going to go off...excellent for tracking sleepers... carnivore upgraded and more pervasive than ever yet not FBI's prime tool... magic lantern badtrans worm badtrans lantern? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SNET: 2/2 Clinton's psyche compeled betrayal of our Country
-> SNETNEWS Mailing List What did Clinton do? He encouraged and often tried to intimidate Israel into making peace, meaning "give in to the tyrants." His phony peace initiatives conned the world into believing that both sides were morally equivalent. As designed, this fueled a Palestinian aggression that aimed to annihilate Israel. This is only one small aspect of Clintons political pathology, being an early convert to feminism. He is still connected to our tumultuous future. The "no energy policy" of the Clinton administration was carefully crafted to make our country weak and dependent on foreign oil. Clearly this policy created a dependency on America-hating Islamic oil producers. These are the same dictators who yearn to drive a spear through our hearts. They fear the redeeming power of America and Israel. They dream of overcoming us but lack the military strength to do so. So, like all spiders who are not fighters, they set web-traps for America to fall into. The oil trap is only the beginning. In the Balkans the same Clinton/Blair treachery was at work when they took the wrong side in favor of what we were told were "ethnic Albanians." Actually they were Muslims out to populate and take over Kosovo, setting the stage for the real prize, a later invasion of Europe. This trail of father-hating blood can be traced around the world. But the corpse is here in America. What would you call Mexican nationals who out-populate American citizens in a few western states? The media call them Immigrants, often painting the picture that they are only looking for a chance to escape poverty. What many of them really want is to establish their own communist government in Southern California! The border policy, especially during Clintons term, showed that government refused to see this problem for what it was, an act of war. By bombing Yugoslavia, perhaps Bill Clinton unwittingly set a precedent. What should we do in the event that "ethnic Mexicans" want to claim California as Mexican territory? If we defend ourselves, we would then look like the aggressor. What then? Easy answer, a United Nations intervention with all those foreign generals itching to get onto American soil. The hell that begins with a mans abuse of woman is global in its implications. Western-style democracy collapsed in Iran, allowing the Ayatollah to rise to power. Zimbabwe, formerly Rhodesia, crumbled into a murderous anarchy. South Africa descended into a violent, AIDS-ravaged, despotic, black-communist, racist dictatorship. The United Kingdom is mostly a country of broken homes, where children cant read or write, and where crime is out of control. Europe is degenerating into a nation of socialist states, all hushed by the same propaganda. America is not far behind the disintegrating European alliance. Our fall accelerated when we lost the war in Vietnam. Our returning sons were degraded and spat upon by media-poisoned Americans. Little was said about the slaughter of one million pro-American South Vietnamese. A vile and violent socialism is now working behind the scenes there and elsewhere. Communism is not dead as we are told. Its work to corrupt all of our institutions is near complete, having turned us against our founding fathers. Clinton was Americas Manchurian candidate, financed by American-bred betrayers who recognized early on that his background and woman-centered personality would serve their purposes well. Who do you suppose financed his rise to power? And who do you suppose saved him from impeachment? Surely you can now see the media flaunting their victory it in our faces, daily. Bill Clinton, like most men who have no masculine reference, remains unconscious of what drives him. He still feels what his mother, now his wife, feels toward everything masculine. There is no real Bill Clinton, as God made him at birth; he has been displaced. He is both the manipulator and manipulated. He is controlled through his need to be reassured, and controls others through reassuring them. He derived his base of political power through rewarding an irresponsible electorate of passive- aggressive men and women. He placed many of his most devious co-haters in positions of power, especially in the judiciary. When President Clinton was first elected, a shock ran throughout the body of this writer, for I knew we had elected a conscienceless sociopath. Those who feared and hated Clinton had good cause to be concerned. We could never have survived as a Democratic Republic for another four years under puppet President Gore. Bill Clinton has never known who he is. He has never been true to himself. He has never had his own identity or his own feelings toward anything. As such he befriends and is befriended by every low-life, treacherous, Third World opportunist who sympathizes with his hatred toward the spirit of American manliness. Ex-President Bill Clinton is
[CTRL] SNET: 1/2 Clinton's psyche compeled betrayal of our Country
-> SNETNEWS Mailing List It is said that the history of a nation can be likened to the life of a single man. Likewise the life of a single man can be a snapshot of a nations history. Little is more true when analyzing the life and personality of one of Americas most enigmatic chief executives, ex-president William Jefferson Clinton. My analysis of Clintons behavior, while not based on intimate knowledge, is grounded in certain simple principles that apply to anyone in similar circumstances. It is irrelevant whether Clinton's mother was married three, four, five or six times. Anyone who practices serial matrimony and promiscuity is a loser on many levels, with certain identifiable character flaws, easily observable. The real relevance here isnt all the gory details we already know about but to open the aperture of understanding so as to see what has happened all over America and to gauge the extent of Clintons connection to Americas dangerous future. It is an established psychological fact that all children bond to their mothers at birth. They tend to feel whatever mother feels toward anything or anyone, especially dad. As a young boy, Bill Clinton saw the world through his mothers eyes. As president of the United States, he projected his mothers lifelong hostility toward men onto patriarchal America. His mother's contempt for her father classically duplicated itself and was carried forward through her as a compulsion to sabotage all male relationships. Like all abused women she tended to choose abusive men or set good men up to fail. Then she, again classically, reacted like a victim of male abuse. As Clinton's embittered mother reached sexual maturity, she began to work her revenge on men by selecting mates (fathers) with that special weakness for women. Following the hook-ups she becomes confusing and manipulating, as if to punish men for their abusive weakness. These dark skills were passed on to young Clinton, who rose to the highest office on earth and was celebrated for his ability to confound and confuse. With no knowledge of it in early childhood, Clinton identified with what his mother felt toward men. Little did he or she realize that he was set up to project her contempt toward everything American and masculine. This development, spreading itself far beyond Little Rock, shaped Clintons hidden perception and behavior towards women. In time he actually became like his abusive fathers, the kind of man his mother secretly hated. Clintons altered identity drove him to seek completion and absolution through many unsavory affairs. By the time of college his degraded ego had already learned how to survive by setting others up to fail. Such a persons entire sense of worth comes to depend upon a typical rush to judgment in all matters. Since ancient times the fall of empires and nations has come by exploiting the inherited enmity between men and women. Our liberal media now promote Americas demise by a scorched-earth cultural war against manhood. The biggest casualty may be not those men who live now but succeeding generations of boys. In the past 50 years the cultures of America and Europe have both fallen on this sword. Long before young boys become men they are set up to become feminized failures. No nation can survive the loss of its manhood. Real heroes and natural leaders have been displaced with perverts, rock stars and flamboyants of all kinds. Now out of the closet, the Left works tirelessly for the chaotic collapse of our patriarchal Democratic Republic, replacing it with an effeminate socialism. Young Clinton's abuse and neglect by the men his mother chose and frustrated caused him to turn against his own masculinity only to take refuge in his mother's compassion. Seeing his mother as the abused victim of beastly men literally spawned in him a strange sympathy for evil. It is in this stage of evolution that he began to bond with everything female including the political art of conniving. At 16 years old he knew he would be a politician. An unhealthy craving for women is not love in any sense and honest women know it. Such need, masquerading as love, typically devolves into a slavish loyalty to lust. Like other men born to a mother void of genuine love, Clinton became a lecherous, co-dependent male, growing ever more abusive for the sake of his psychosexual need. In this he was just like all his fathers before him. Here is the pattern and principal. Angry, abused women set men up to fail, who in turn degrade women. Children growing up under an angry, abused womans roof become the next generations abusers, both male and female. This is the age-old enmity that Liberals encourage, using it to demoralize and bring down a masculine nation, giving them control of the clean-up, and later power. Clinton was pre-conditioned with the inclination to seek approval from Third Worlders, as president. Most
Re: [CTRL] British-Israel Doctrine of the Lost Tribes
-Caveat Lector- Tell me J2 - do you have proof of your pedigree other than, you are just there? Blonde and blue eyed? Don't make me laugh - you are short, pudgy, and get too excited over the militia. Are you attracted to real men - have a problem? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Canadian Protection Force
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.strike-the-root.com/miles11.html }}}Begin Strike The Root There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root. The Great Canadian Police State Goose-Steps Ever Onward by Manuel Miles Throughout history, the creeping establishment of police states has consistently followed a simple, effective strategy; start on a group that is unpopular, constantly propagandise against them to make them even less popular, and provoke, harass and persecute them in the name of protecting the public. In fact, the State is often acting to protect its monopoly on coercion and various rackets. In any case, this strategy permits it to grant itself tremendous, Draconian powers, while arousing little, if any, opposition. This process has been well underway for years in the Peoples Republic of Canada. In my own province of Alberta, the State, via its armed forces, has been terrorising selected citizens for years under the guise of protect ion. When, for example, a group of citizens opened a chapter of a motorcycle club in Alberta, the State responded by spending an estimated $1.2 million on a three-day programme of harassment and intimidation. The net result of this divergence of hundreds of police from their duties was a total of three helmet law citations, two of which were so spurious in nature as to be tossed out of court. This expenditure allegedly proved that police for ces required even more money to protect the State from the scourge of free association of the citizens. Then, in February of 2000, Edmonton police decided to serve a warrant for the search and seizure of records related to gambling (which is a government monopoly here) by blowing down the door of a private residence and l obbing in stun grenades. These grenades, by the way, have been responsible for many fatalities, and are especially dangerous to children, infants, the elderly, the sick, et cetera. They are equally as harmless as a ru bber bullet to the head. Obviously, therefor, this is the weapon of choice when the cops have no idea who is inside a house. [It is interesting to note that, since its opening of chapters in Alberta, the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club is almost never in the news except as victims of coercion (on the part of the State), and not perpetrators the reof.] A police spokesman excused this fascist atrocity by saying that It is a fortified residence... and ...we didnt know what was going on in there. This clarification makes it obvious that if a homes door is locked an d the curtains drawn, the minions of the State may launch a military attack against its occupants. Later, in the wake of the Canada Day youth riots in a popular pub district of Edmonton last July 1st, police instituted a policy of abducting people off the street, driving them to various locations and abandoning them -- all without bothering to charge them with so much as a breach of the rules of etiquette. Police are no longer bothered with the trouble of attempting to prove that someone has broken a law. Even the Gestapo had more re straints. Now the public is being protected from clothing which identifies the wearer as a member of the Hells Angels. The government mouthpiece media is busy propagandising that this notorious motorcycle gang, by opening a new chapter in Ontario, has committed an aggressive expansion. [One shudders to think how the expansion NHL hockey teams with their bellicose logos and violent sport might be described should they run a lotto without govern ment permission.] Worse still, apparently, they have booked rooms in a hotel in order to have a convention and celebration. Even in Canada this club is entirely legal, yet the Toronto police have taken it upon themselves to coerce businesses in the area to refuse service to members of the Hells Angels. After all, in Toronto the Fair, sartoria l splendour is the order of the day, as any visitor to Yonge Street can attest. The police have even been so obliging as to spend tax dollars (one assumes -- what do you want to bet that the cost did not come out of the Policemens Benevolent Association party fund?) on the mass production of posters saying, No Gang Colours/No Gang Clothing. These free posters are being pushed by the armed minions of the State on local businesses -- businesses which need to be seen to cooperate with the cops in order to be prote cted by them. [Speaking of organised crime, where have we heard of this protection racket before?] One wonders how the media would react if shops put up posters saying, No Curling League Logos/No Curling Jackets or e ven No Cop Badges/No Cop Clothing? The conventioneers will also be harassed by police imported from other provinces for this cop holiday, in addition to the foolish, non- productive antics of Ontarios special anti-biker squad. The monetary cost of this monumental nuisance
Re: [CTRL] British-Israel Doctrine of the Lost Tribes
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Saba wrote: Tell me J2 - do you have proof of your pedigree other than, you are just there? Blonde and blue eyed? Don't make me laugh - you are short, pudgy, and get too excited over the militia. Are you attracted to real men - have a problem? Excellent reply, O'Saba. You must be one of the fighting Irish. J2 was very naughty to call you a deluded turd. Perhaps it was a PROJECTION. What does JI have for proof of pedigree that makes it more justified to invade Palestine, killing and terrorizing the people living there daily for 50 years? Why shouldn't CI have had that privileged and chosen right of return? POC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] [SupportersofPresidentBush] Did G-d issue a Deed to the Israelites? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:21:47 -0800 (PST) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SupportersofPresidentBush] Did G-d issue a Deed to the Israelites? As Mrs. Ashrawi wryly commented recently, I dind't know God was in the real estate business. Mr. Zinni will understand why the entire surrounding Muslim World might be concerned about an occupation with massive theft of land, terrorism and genocide which doesn't even have boundaries set. If the Jews will not accept UN-set borders from 1947-48, claiming that G-d gave this land to their ancestors and therefore mere humans from the great unwashed gentile masses have no right to intervene, perhaps they should with equal certainty come up with the Almighty's DEED which tells them what the borders are to be. POC On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Green And if Palestinian textbooks do not depict the borders of Israel, perhaps it is partly because Israel has never established permanent borders and agreed to live inside them. And here we thought this was a deed issued from The Highest Realm to G-d's Chosen People who are so certain that the Almighty is a big time real estate agent. How careless of the Almighty to have ignored that matter of borders and amount of land to be occupied. How many nations of Israel can fit on the head of a pin? Theological hot topic du jour. POC To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/wpWolB/TM -~- What kind of city with surroundings would one expect of a faith-based public works project with the objective of designing and constructing a culture of life? Would a George Bush culture of life be the same as a Vatican culture of life? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Does J2 have G-d's Deed to the Chosen People?
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:41:36 -0800 (PST) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Conspiracy-Theory] Israel's occupation is a harsh lesson for children On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, J. Markel wrote: Actually, the borders of Israel are quite clearly described in the Bible They include Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and a large part of Egypt. Rabbi Yossi Markel OK, Rabbi, I have read Asimov's Guide to the Bible with all those maps of borders derived mainly from Bible scholarship. But what I am getting at is that today we have JI people claiming right of return based on an eternal promise of land by G-d. Since G-d is said to be the grantor of this deed and Jews are deemed to be the grantees, tell us what G-d set as the borders for the deed, not what multiple human struggles through the ages have wrought. POC - Original Message - From: Party of Citizens To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [Conspiracy-Theory] Israel's occupation is a harsh lesson for children On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Green And if Palestinian textbooks do not depict the borders of Israel, perhaps it is partly because Israel has never established permanent borders and agreed to live inside them. And here we thought this was a deed issued from The Highest Realm to G-d's Chosen People who are so certain that the Almighty is a big time real estate agent. How careless of the Almighty to have ignored that matter of borders and amount of land to be occupied. How many nations of Israel can fit on the head of a pin? Theological hot topic du jour. POC *** Share with us your ideas. *** The things here are a collection from various places or persons and I am not responsible for the contents. The content is not meant to offend anyone. Anyone can post here. Please get your friends to join our list. The more people we have, the better the list will be. Community email addresses: ?? -- Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) -- Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-( -- Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) -- List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See our links page for other conspiracy sites. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/wpWolB/TM -~- What kind of city with surroundings would one expect of a faith-based public works project with the objective of designing and constructing a culture of life? Would a George Bush culture of life be the same as a Vatican culture of life? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Go here
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for some apocalyptic information on the New World Order and the New
Age. I have not reviewed the whole site but someone pointed out an
error to me in one of their reviews that I recently posted, SO, they
may be a bit off with some details. AND, they have a really neat
image to go along with their prediction for the 3rd Great War (or for
the New Millennium adherents [it's still only next year isn't it?],
the 1st War of the 21st Century [holding breaths for the 2nd, 3rd,
and onward?]); so here's the linque to the image (love to see these
people's idea of a tattoo!):
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And the site's home page,
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Re: [CTRL] British-Israel Doctrine of the Lost Tribes
-Caveat Lector- You mean J2 is doing all this by say astral projection.is he, The Slaughterman? He said he was going to send Moshe the Masher after me - too much of a coward to come mano a womano... I have a solution to this Israeli war. What you do is ignore them all. They seem to thrive in the newspapers here. Oh, how they suffer and love every moment of it. Now you read Herzi's dream and what psalm is that the 137 - paints a different picture. Hey they got pools, swimming pools over there and cannot understand why the Palestinians are mad - well it is because they ration their water - so God stopped in one day took one look, and turned off the rain. Can you imagine, Joshua2 spying on the Militia? O'Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Could You Be An Israelite And Not Know It?
-Caveat Lector- Excellent thread with two very solid arguments we should keep in mind: (1) Israel today has to be someone, so who? (2) God or G-d if you prefer chooses those who choose God/G-d. When Golda Meier lamented the problem of unifying a country with 30% atheists as she stated, did she let the cat out of the proverbial bag? POC On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Bill Kalivas wrote: -Caveat Lector- Actually, this is more of an attempt to balance off some of the horseshit that people like Gale and others pass off claiming Gospel Identity. Israel has to be someone today. I've always had trouble swallowing the chosen people myth promoted by many 501C3 State christian churches. Christians promote the anti-christ Jewish religion as if it were right out of the Bible. No wonder the Christian Church is a scorn. more of the same misguided longing for being one of the chosen...lemme tell ya a secret...god's chosen are those who have chosen god... he speaks to us at all times and the more we fill our heads with trying to apply multi-thousand year old political histories as literal spiritual fact to a new, entirely different world, the more will we NOT hear the word... A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Serbia: Bank employees barricade themselves
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ---BeginMessage--- ADVERTISEMENT My Groups | ProletarianNews Main Page Reuters. 5 January 2002. Yugoslavia stands firm on bank closures. BELGRADE -- Hundreds of employees barricaded themselves inside four Yugoslav banks on Friday in protest at a government decision to close them, the country's largest such corporate shutdown ever, affecting 8,500 people. Federal Finance Minister Jovan Rankovic announced his resignation after voicing criticism of the closures. But Yugoslav officials showed no sign of bowing to pressure to reverse Thursday's decision to close Beogradska Banka, Beobanka, Investbanka and Jugobanka as part of World Bank-sponsored reform of its fragile financial system. There is a freedom to protest, there will be no force used to stop them, but these banks are not working any longer, Yugoslav central bank governor Mladjan Dinkic told reporters. Analysts say closing inefficient socialist-era companies is inevitable by authorities introducing a Western-style market economy following the 2000 ouster of authoritarian leader Slobodan Milosevic. Once relatively prosperous in communist eastern and central Europe, Yugoslavia plunged into poverty in the 1990s as a result of war [read: NATO] and Western sanctions against Milosevic's government. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---End Message---
[CTRL] Homeland Security, Homeland Profits
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ---BeginMessage--- Homeland Security, Homeland ProfitsWayne Madsen,January 3, 2002 http://www.guerrillanews.com/war_on_terrorism/doc267.html Recent moves to beef up intelligence gathering in the wake of the September 11th terrorist attacks have civil libertarians concerned that law enforcement agencies will entangle many law abiding citizens and social justice groups in their surveillance missions. Intelligence networks are setting their sights on the Internet, which up to now has had no clear privacy guidelines. Under the provisions of the inaptly named anti-terrorism act, "USA-PATRIOT," the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), National Security Agency (NSA), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and a number of other smaller law enforcement agencies are looking for ways to monitor the Internet and mine useful intelligence from it. And new technology makes it easier than ever to spy on the Internet. Although law enforcement and intelligence agencies claim they are merely looking for information to counter future acts of terrorism, the definition of "terrorism" is being expanded to cover non-violent groups that have traditionally used the Internet to marshal resistance to corporate-inspired globalization. Politicians are already painting dissent as "unpatriotic" and therefore somehow linked to terrorism. Meanwhile, a phalanx of software companies, consultants, and defense contractors stand to reap billions of dollars over the next few years by selling surveillance and information-gathering systems to government agencies and the private sector. Technology Already in the Hands of Law Enforcement Law enforcement agencies like the FBI already have at their disposal a massive information sharing network through which federal, state, local, and foreign police forces can exchange information on groups felt to pose a threat. The system, RISSNET, or Regional Information Sharing System Network, which existed before the September 11th attacks, recently got a boost when Congress authorized additional money for it in the USA PATRIOT Act. RISSNET is a secure intranet that connects 5,700 law enforcement agencies in all 50 states, as well as agencies in Ontario and Quebec, the District of Columbia, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and Australia. According to sources close to the Washington Metropolitan Police, data on targeted local groups such as the Alliance for Global Justice, the anti-World Bank/International Monetary Fund activist organization, has been shared with other jurisdictions through RISSNET. RISSNET has also been used to coordinate the monitoring of the activities of anti-globalization protestors in Seattle, Quebec City, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Washington DC and Genoa. For example, when the FBI seized network server logs from Independent Media Center (IMC) in Seattle during the April 2001 anti-free trade protests in Quebec City, RISSNET was used to coordinate activities across jurisdictional boundaries. The IMC, founded during the 1999 WTO protests, allows activists and independent journalists to post directly to its site. State and metropolitan police intelligence units also monitor the web sites of activist organizations in their jurisdictions. All RISS intelligence is archived by an Orwellian-sounding entity called MAGLOCLEN or "Middle Atlantic-Great Lakes Organized Crime Law Enforcement Network." There are other regional RISS intelligence centers around the country with equally mysterious acronyms. MAGLOCLEN, a nerve center headquartered in Newtown, Pennsylvania, distributes political intelligence to all police departments hooked up to RISSNET. MAGLOCLEN allows police investigators to link various activist groups and members through the Link Association Analysis sub-system, a relational data base that identifies the "friends and families" of groups and individuals. The Telephone Record Analysis sub-system can call up records of phone calls of targeted groups and individuals. A suspect group's banking and other commercial data can be monitored by the Financial Analysis sub-system. And through a system that would have been the envy of J. Edgar Hoover, police and federal agents can also call up profiles that provide specific information on the composition of organizations, including their membership lists. The Justice Department has instituted a project called RISSNET II, which directly links the individual databases contained within the various RISS centers. The FBI also runs its own intranet called Law Enforcement On-line or "LEO," which allows it to communicate intelligence with select other law enforcement agencies. In the aftermath of September 11th , the FBI is under pressure to open up LEO to more police agencies so they can have access to more real-time intelligence. If Attorney General John Ashcroft lifts
[CTRL] New 'Terror' Target: Belarus
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ---BeginMessage--- ADVERTISEMENT My Groups | ProletarianNews Main Page DPA. 5 January 2002. Belarus seen as top supplier of arms to Moslem extremists. [NOTE - by Rick Rozoff: What the CIA lacks in imagination it more than makes up for with psychotic delusions. Having failed to topple Belarus President Lukashenko in a Yugoslav-style Western-engineered coup last year, it now resorts to the universal panacea: Branding him and his government as supporters of international terrorism. Observe the Company's 'logic': Because Belarus supplied military equipment to the legitimate government of Tajikistan several years ago *to combat religious extremists,* it's responsible for the extremists capturing the weapons. How would this curious principle apply to the Taliban coming into possession of US Stinger missiles? As for Belarus supplying weapons to the Western-armed KLA and its numerous offshoots, the CIA is being far too modest. We all know who deserves credit for that operation.] MINSK -- Belarus is the largest supplier of weapons to Islamic radicals, according to sources at the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Israeli intelligence journal DEBKA. In the first half of 2001 alone, Belarus signed weapons deals with Arab, Palestinian and Albanian Moslem extremists for more than 500 million dollars, the sources say. It seems the last dictatorship in Europe is playing a key role in supplying Islamic radicals and terrorists in Central Asia, the Middle East and the Balkans with weapons and military equipment. As a former Soviet republic that inherited huge amounts of military equipment when the Soviet Union collapsed and has expanded and upgraded its existing weapons producing facilities, Belarus is well-placed to maintain its yearly rank as a top-ten weapons exporting country to the Third World. Belarus, with a population of only 10 million people, has 1,700 T- 72 tanks, intelligence documents obtained by DPA reveal. Poland, which shares a border with Belarus and is a new member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization NATO, has four times the population but just half that number of tanks. Belarus is one of the most secretive countries in its weapons deals and probably one of the most irresponsible countries you can think of, says Siemon Wezemen describing the situation. Wezemen is an expert on arms exports and weapons proliferation at the SIPRI institute in Stockholm, a highly respected scientific foundation devoted to peace research. The fact that Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko has led his country into international isolation and has been condemned and ostracized by the West for his undemocratic and authoritarian behavior has provided another impetus for him to sell weapons to countries and organizations that are unfriendly to the United States and Western Europe. As official information from Minsk on arms exports is shrouded in secrecy, Western observers must base their assessments on intelligence documents, information obtained from intelligence analysts and diplomats as well as East European military and political journals with sources close to the Belarusian arms trade. The influential Polish political news journal Wprost, for example, reports that as far back as 1994, in Lukashenko's first year as president, Belarus supplied Tajikistan with machine guns and armored vehicles - equipment which quickly found its way into the hands of Islamic fighters engaged in civil war in neighboring Afghanistan. Wprost also reports that Belarus, in violation of U.N. Security Council resolutions, has helped the Iraqi Air Force with modernizing its anti-aircraft systems by supplying military hardware such as SA-3 missile components along with equipment used to modernize Iraq's air defense network. While Lukashenko has strongly denied the allegations that he has supplied weaponry to Iraq, Wezeman notes: I would not be surprised if Belarus was giving technical assistance. The efforts of Lukashenko to earn much-needed hard currency for Belarus's anemic economy - one of the poorest in Europe - appear to have no limits as the country indiscriminately sells weapons to anyone willing to pay - especially Islamic militants who cannot procure weapons through legal and ordinary channels. As sources at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency suggest and the Israeli intelligence journal DEBKA reported, Belarus has supplied Moslem Albanian rebels fighting in Kosovo and Macedonia with machine guns, mortars, anti-tank mines and large quantities of ammunition. These rebels have made good use of this equipment in their fight against Serbia and Macedonia - two Slavic countries who are key Russian allies in the Balkans. In such a light it seems ironic that as Russia's most ardent public supporter in its
[CTRL] Truth, Reason and Rightful Claimants to Israel
-Caveat Lector- I've corrected two typos in the original PNEWS below. This relates to my overall comparison of CI (Christian Identity) and JI (Jewish Identity) arguments. I am not presenting a religious argument per se as the Golem's comments seem to say. I am summarizing the arguments of the CI-JI religionists as best I can in the light of truth and reason. The opinions of honest and reasonable people must prevail over those of dogmatists and terrorists whether CI or JI. POC -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:44:07 -0500 From: PNEWS.ORG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Progressive News Views [since 82] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PNEWS] VIEWS: Rightful Claimants ## # # ### # # # # # ### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ## # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ### # # # # # # # # # ### ## ## # || | Subscribe or Unsubscribe to PNEWS-L -- http://pnews.org/signup.shtml | | (Where TRUTH and HONESTY are more important than political persuasion) | | PNEWS-L ARCHIVES -http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/pnews-l.html | | CURRENT EVENTS, NEWS ARTICLES -- http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml | || [This is an essay from Franklin Wayne Poley who questions the rightful claim to Israel by Jews or others and the argument appears to be based on religious grounds. This not the claim I would make, but others do. If you would like to critique this or anything I have written here, do in the same form Franklin uses to present his thesis. All views in your effort to seek your truth is welcome hereTheGolem] From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are totally begging the question as to who the rightful claimants to the land of the Ancient Israelites are today. Even if you accept that the Almighty gave the deed to that land to a people for all time, who are the modern counterparts to those people, ie the Ancient Israelites? Modern Christians and Muslims believe they are manifesting the teachings of the Almighty as they were given to the Patriarchs and Israelites at least as well as modern Jews. If they didn't believe this, they too would convert like the famous dancing midget. What you keep forgetting is that Israel as The Jewish Nation constantly tells Christians and Muslims they are liars. This is not the pagan world 3,000 years ago, with unwashed masses of gentile-pagan riff raff as Jews keep saying. Christians and Muslims in Palestine had their lands occupied. Lands they had owned from times so distant no one can remember. Those lands were occupied. Stolen from them. They were then subjected to daily traumatization by having tens of thousands killed and an entire population terrorized. Never mind whether Palestine ever was a nation. That is a red herring. Millions of Americans live in other countries and own land there. They would fight no less than the Palestinians if invaders saying they had a G-d given right seized their lands and started killing them by the thousands while terrorizing them daily. What was it that the Crusaders claimed long ago when they invaded the Middle East? They had that mandate from the Almighty to seize the lands of the people there because Jesus Christ had said, I came only to find the lost sheep of Israel. Thus the Crusaders could say THEY were True Israel. While in your mind the IDENTITY issue is settled, in the minds of Christian Identity it is also settled. Perhaps it is no avail to argue with people who are more dogmatic than any medieval pope but there is a scholarly and scientific and REASONED side to this matter. And Judaism has never called for an unreasoning faith we read in the De Sola Poole Traditional Jewish Prayer Book. FWP ++ Members of the left, along with the far larger number of squishy progressives, have grossly failed to live up to their responsibility to think; rather, they are merely reacting, substituting tired slogans for thought. - Christopher Hitchens ++ || | PNEWS-L - LISTSERV(tm) is a NEWSLETTER with 23 SYMPOSIUM TOPICS | | TURN OFF topics you do not want - SUBMIT ESSAYS - CRITIQUE ARTICLES | | Highest level of *NET SECURITY* ~ Indexing-Digest-Search-Interface | | Topics= ALERTS,HEALTH,INTERNET,OCCULTISM,REFUGEES,VIEWS | |
[CTRL] *Transfiguration*
-Caveat Lector- From http://www1.xlibris.com/bookstore/bookdisplay.asp?bookid=11789 }Begin Transfiguration Chronicles of the Future, Book Two by Paul Weber ISBN: 1- 4010-2446-7 (Trade Paperback) ISBN: 1- 4010-2447-5 (Hardback) ISBN: 1- 4010-2448-3 (eBook) Pages: 319 Description Is the history of life on Earth one of gradual change, or dramatic transfigurations? In the mandatory government youth propaganda camps (acknowledgment to author Vin Suprynowicz for this phrase) known as public schools, we are taught that species mutate gradually over time into new forms. But does the fossil record really bear this out? On the contrary, the fossil record shows life on earth tends to go through long periods of relative stability, followed by dramatic, wholesale changes, or transfigurations. Millions of years ago, in a short span of time paleontologists call the Permian-Triassic Extinction Event, over ninety percent of all species on earth perished in some unknown cataclysm. But life on earth did not cease to exist: it transfigured. Somehow, species are able to change forms quickly to adapt to these wrenching ecological changes; new species arise, not gradually, but virtually overnight. The same pattern can be seen in the fossil record between the Triassic and Jurassic periods, the Jurassic and Cretaceous, and (most dramatically) the Cretaceous and Tertiary periods, which saw the sudden demise of the dinosaurs and the equally sudden rise of mammals. In like manner, the fossil record shows sudden, dramatic changes in mammalian species in Earths most recent geologic period. It is an open question as to whether these dramatic changes are internally driven, in the form of deep programming in DNA sequences; or externally driven, by such things as sudden climate changes or ecological instability. Most likely, both answers are correct: it seems that life, to survive sudden changes in the e nvironment, must have the ability to change form rapidly. It may be that the great extinction events of geological history were not extinction events at all; rather, they were periods of biological transfiguration. This t heory has been advanced by several paleontologists who claim that dinosaurs did not actually die out, but evolved-- transfigured--into birds and other species. What sort of environmental stresses can act as the trigger that initiates these sudden changes in species? Changes in climate seem to be a contributing factor; although the human species, from its short historical perspec tive, views the planet as being relatively stable climatically, geology reveals a very different long-term picture. Over the past few million years, the planet has gone through a series of cooling and warming periods. At this time, it appears we are still in a warming period, but the bio-historical record gleaned from ice-core studies in Greenland indicate that, when the climate does change, it changes dramatically, going from warm age to ice age in a matter of a few short years, rather than gradually, as was originally thought. The theory of gradual evolution of species does not provide an answer of how species can manage to survive against such wholesale, dramatic, deadly change in the environment. It may be that species have the ability to mut ate quickly--to transfigure--in the face of such global holocausts. These wholesale changes can demolish biological equilibrium as new species clash with one another. In the novels prologue, one such clash in portrayed b etween one form of early man, Cro-Magnon, against another form we know as Neanderthal. Anthropologists agree that the two species lived side by side for thousands of years, but there is evidence that they may have become mortal enemies, with the Cro-Magnon eventually hunting down their dimmer-witted brothers until the Neanderthal were exterminated. A world in the midst of biological transfiguration is the setting of the novel. In the course of a few short years, the climate cools dramatically, with ice sheets extending down from the poles well into the temperate zon es, just as they have done in previous ice ages. Much of Europe and Canada become uninhabitable as the ice sheets advance, and the human species is thrown into a state of chaos as food supplies shrink. Governments, unable to manage the stream of people immigrating from northern to southern countries, lose control of their territories. Strange rumors of new species of animals begin to emerge as the global cooling continues. From the deserted lands at the front of the glacier come tales of gigantic, man-eating bears, rodents the size of dogs, and mountain lions with heavy fur to protect them against the cold. Perhaps the strangest news event is thousands of mothers giving birth to children with what is seen initially as a new kind of birth defect; children are born with thin, frail bodies, long fingers, and unusually large heads. At first, the children are thought to be
Re: [CTRL] Could You Be An Israelite And Not Know It?
-Caveat Lector- --- Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Excellent thread with two very solid arguments we should keep in mind: (1) Israel today has to be someone, so who? no...israel is an entity of superstition and palestine is occupied... __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] mixed muck 1-5
-Caveat Lector- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agentsmiley/message/2713 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? --j2
-Caveat Lector- Don't pick on me, I didn't start the holocaust thread. and I already mentioned genocide mindset and ghettoization, that's what's going on there. and if you want definitions.. go check a dictionary. stop-the-violence http://www.humanunderground.com/stoptheviolence.html On Friday, January 4, 2002, at 07:45 PM, Nurev Ind. wrote: -Caveat Lector- Valued User wrote: -Caveat Lector- maybe not exactly an industrialized holocaust machine, but the genocide mindset and obvious ghetto-ization is ongoing. Don't try and kid us that nothing is happening over there! No one said nothing was going on there. YOU said a holocaust was going on there. There is not a holocaust going on there. The is a civil war between enemy tribes going on there. What exactly IS a holocaust? I ask you again. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE CARLYLE GROUP
http://www.webactive.com/pacifica/exile/dn20020104.html Story: THE CARLYLE GROUP: THE MOST POWERFUL COMPANY YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF We turn now to a story about one of the most powerful companies you've never heard of. The company is called The Carlyle Group and in the wake of the events of September 11th, its power and influence have become significantly stronger. The company operates within the so-called iron-triangle of industry, government and the military. Its list of former and current advisers and associates includes a vast array of some of the most powerful men in America and indeed around the world. It has also brought together the current Secretary of State Colin Powell, former President George Bush, and a man named Bakr Bin Laden-Osama bin Laden's half brother. In just a moment we are going to be speaking to Dan Briody from Red Herring magazine. He's written an extensive piece on the company called: "Carlyle's Way: Making a Mint Inside "The Iron Triangle" of Defense, Government and Industry." It begins: "Like everyone else in the United States, the group stood transfixed as the events of September 11 unfolded. Present were former secretary of defense Frank Carlucci, former secretary of state James Baker III, and representatives of the bin Laden family. This was not some underground presidential bunker or Central Intelligence Agency interrogation room. It was the Ritz-Carlton in Washington, D.C., the plush setting for the annual investor conference of one of the most powerful, well-connected, and secretive companies in the world: the Carlyle Group. And since September 11, this little-known company has become unexpectedly important." "That the Carlyle Group had its conference on America's darkest day was mere coincidence, but there is nothing accidental about the cast of characters that this private-equity powerhouse has assembled in the 14 years since its founding… And as the Carlyle investors watched the World Trade towers go down, the group's prospects went up." Guest: Dan Briody, is a Senior Writer for Red Herring Magazine. Listen to the show here.
[CTRL] SNET: U.N. Global Tax Police Coming to Get You (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:16:00 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: U.N. Global Tax Police Coming to Get You - SNETNEWS Mailing List U.N. Global Tax Police Coming to Get You Kevin Curran Wednesday, Jan. 2, 2002 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/1/2/63214.shtml A plan for a new tax structure is emerging which makes no attempt to mask its goals of income redistribution and the reduction of national sovereignty. This scheme is not coming from that great deliberative body on the Potomac, but from the third world-dominated General Assembly on the East River. The details will emerge at the United Nations International Conference on Financing for Development in Mexico in March. Former Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo chairs a panel that recommends creating within the U.N. an agency called the International Tax Organization. The new organization would: * Impose global taxes, either on international currency transactions or fossil fuel consumption * Attempt to restrain tax competition between nations * Allow countries to continue taxing emigrants * Operate an information exchange requiring countries to share financial data to facilitate tax collections from residents who earn income in other nations Furthermore, The Center for Freedom and Prosperity Foundation reports Zedillo's group is calling for a doubling of foreign aid from larger nations, more social welfare spending, higher taxes and an international bureaucracy that may prevent countries from setting their own labor and environmental policies. Daniel Mitchell of the Heritage Foundation did not mince words in his analysis of the proposals. Mitchell said the United States should stop the United Nation's plan and that to preserve prosperity and opportunity around the globe, Congress and the President should tell the bureaucrats at the U.N. to take a long walk off a short pier. Zedillo's panel admits taxing currency transactions could be difficult. Although they estimate the tax could collect as much as $400 billion a year, currency traders could find ways to avoid the tax or create instruments that would be difficult to tax. The fossil fuel tax proposal would be easier to implement. The panel envisions taxing fuels according to their contribution to greenhouse gases at levels high enough to discourage consumption (even though less consumption would mean less revenue). Despite the committee's stated intention of helping nations develop, developing nations would pay dearly under this plan. What would the International Tax Organization do? Its goals could make life difficult for individuals and nations alike. While the ITO would likely collect statistics and monitor tax policy developments, it could also help implement drastic changes in how nations shape their tax policies. Perhaps the most ominous responsibility of the International Tax Organization would be to restrain tax competition. The committee members did not explain how competition between nations is harmful. Mitchell said this aspect of proposed duties of the ITO is a threat to both high-tax countries like France and low-tax nations like the United States. A lack of competition could lead some countries to raise taxes. Companies and individuals that seek to better their income by moving their capital to lower-tax countries would be denied that opportunity. In fact, individuals seeking a better life could find themselves chained to their old tax system. One of the ITO's responsibilities would be to facilitate the taxation of emigrants. While the committee claims this would help countries who suffer economic loss when productive people leave, it makes those people government property. This proposal puts the United States in a difficult situation. Throughout U.S. history, people have come here seeking a better life. American officials would likely oppose efforts by other countries to tax income earned within the U.S. The problem is, the United States already taxes income its citizens earn overseas. Finally, the new organization would require governments to collect financial data on individuals and share it with other nations. This would facilitate the taxation of emigrants and its effect on the American economy could be devastating. International investors might re-consider putting their money into the American financial markets if they knew they faced both the disclosure of their income to their home country and the imposition of higher taxes. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1ddDh.b2FRTm
Re: [CTRL] Does J2 have G-d's Deed to the Chosen People?
-Caveat Lector- do you, like, talk to god, personally? wow - cool that reminds me of a guy who thought his shoes talked. only difference is his shoes existed -- --- - Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it Elwood P Dowd NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:20:43 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Does J2 have G-d's Deed to the Chosen People? -Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:41:36 -0800 (PST) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Conspiracy-Theory] Israel's occupation is a harsh lesson for children On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, J. Markel wrote: Actually, the borders of Israel are quite clearly described in the Bible They include Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and a large part of Egypt. Rabbi Yossi Markel OK, Rabbi, I have read Asimov's Guide to the Bible with all those maps of borders derived mainly from Bible scholarship. But what I am getting at is that today we have JI people claiming right of return based on an eternal promise of land by G-d. Since G-d is said to be the grantor of this deed and Jews are deemed to be the grantees, tell us what G-d set as the borders for the deed, not what multiple human struggles through the ages have wrought. POC - Original Message - From: Party of Citizens To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [Conspiracy-Theory] Israel's occupation is a harsh lesson for children On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Green And if Palestinian textbooks do not depict the borders of Israel, perhaps it is partly because Israel has never established permanent borders and agreed to live inside them. And here we thought this was a deed issued from The Highest Realm to G-d's Chosen People who are so certain that the Almighty is a big time real estate agent. How careless of the Almighty to have ignored that matter of borders and amount of land to be occupied. How many nations of Israel can fit on the head of a pin? Theological hot topic du jour. POC *** Share with us your ideas. *** The things here are a collection from various places or persons and I am not responsible for the contents. The content is not meant to offend anyone. Anyone can post here. Please get your friends to join our list. The more people we have, the better the list will be. Community email addresses: ?? -- Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) -- Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-( -- Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) -- List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See our links page for other conspiracy sites. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/wpWolB/TM -~- What kind of city with surroundings would one expect of a faith-based public works project with the objective of designing and constructing a culture of life? Would a George Bush culture of life be the same as a Vatican culture of life? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
[CTRL] THE TRUTH ABOUT NECROMANCY . . .
-Caveat Lector- from: http://dontyson.tripod.com/necro.html - THE TRUTH ABOUT NECROMANCY (Edward Kelley and Paul Waring raising the dead) Necromancy is the magic of communicating with the souls of the dead for the purpose of obtaining useful information. The word literally means corpse ( nekros) divination (manteia). It is one of the most ancient forms of magic. A large part of primitive shamanism, from which all forms of magic derive, was about communicating with the spirits of dead ancestors. We see this in modern Voodoo, which is essentially a religion of ancestor worship that has evolved a pantheon of gods and goddesses who fulfill the roles of great ancestors to all the people. What sets necromancy apart from ancestor worship is its attitude toward the dead. The necromancer communicates with any easily-accessed soul that may possess the information he or she needs, and the willingness of the departed is of no consequence. Necromancers compel the souls of the dead to reveal their secrets against their wishes. Traditional necromancy relied upon the relics of the corpse as a bridge to establish communication with the shade of the dead person. It involved the use of such things as grave mold, the bones, skin, hair and fingernails of corpses, and body parts such as hands, teeth and eyeballs. The skull was considered to be especially useful, since it housed the organs of the higher senses of sight and hearing, the senses through which the dead person acquired secrets. A departed soul might be expected to know important matters in two areas: what he had seen or done during life, and what he had seen or done after death. Often necromancers called up a shade to discover the hiding place of treasure which the person during life was rumored to have possessed. The dead were thought to have special access to occult knowledge, and sometimes they were called back from beyond the grave to teach the necromancer techniques of magic not available by any other means, techniques acquired in the afterlife. It was believed that the shades of the dead were attracted to freshly-spilled blood, because blood was one of the primary repositories of vital energy in the body. Since the dead lacked bodies of flesh, the thinking went, they must lack vitality and therefore be weak. Hence their pale appearance when they were seen as ghosts. If fresh blood was spilled while still warm on the ground, or better still into a pit, or even better still into the opening of the grave, its energy would attract shades, who would then seek to nourish themselves upon on. The reason it was better to spill blood into a pit is that in ancient times in Greek and Rome where necromancy was extensively practiced, the underworld was popularly considered to lie beneath the ground. Spilling blood into a pit brought it nearer to the shades of the dead and drew them upward. It was sometimes spilled into the grave of a specific individual to attract that soul, on the theory that the shades of the dead have an affinity with their own corpses. Murderers and other criminals executed for their crimes were prime targets of necromancers, both because there was seldom a loving family to tend and guard their remains, and because anyone executed as a criminal was thought to have a restless spirit that walked the earth, and therefore was more accessible. The common image of a necromancer shows him or her confronting the actual risen corpse that has been animated and made to stand and walk through magic. This is, of course, mere fantasy, but at its root lies the true practices of necromancy. The corpse was not actually made to move and speak. It was merely used as the focus for the spirit attracted by the spilled blood and evocations of the necromancer. It was necessary for the necromancer to possess mediumistic abilities to hear psychically the words of the spirit, or to gain the information of the spirit through other forms of communications. Oftentimes the shade of the dead, called up by the necromancer, merely pointed in the direction where his treasure lay buried, or silently led the necromancer to the spot. In my opinion, it is not possible to call forth through necromancy the actual souls of those who have died. However, it is possible to summon spirits who represent themselves as those departed human beings to the necromancer, and these spirits may indeed possess valuable occult knowledge, or know of things that are hidden. There are two necessary aspects to necromancy. The calling of the shade, and the compelling of the shade. In ancient times these were combined. For example, Odysseus, the hero of Homer's Odyssey, called back shades from the underworld by spilling the blood of sacrificed beasts into a trench in the ground, then compelled the shades to speak by preventing them with his drawn
Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] [SupportersofPresidentBush] Did G-d issue a Deed to the Israelites?
-Caveat Lector- historical fact check - the Jews did accept the 47-58 borders - and then in 48 they were rejected by the Arabs, who vowed to push the Jews into the sea. why should the Jews honor a treaty that was already broken by the other side? now back to your regularly scheduled drivel about nonexistent gaseous diety-men It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error. Justice Robert H. Jackson NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:19:24 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] [SupportersofPresidentBush] Did G-d issue a Deed to the Israelites? (fwd) If the Jews will not accept UN-set borders from 1947-48, claiming that G-d gave this land to their ancestors and therefore mere humans from the great unwashed gentile masses have no right to intervene, perhaps they should with equal certainty come up with the Almighty's DEED which tells them what the borders are to be. POC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Necromancy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.occultopedia.com/n/necromancy.htm - Necromancy No Frames Navigation Info Also known as Nagomancy, it is a form of divination by communication with the dead, one of the claimed black arts practiced by witches and magicians. The classic case of necromancy is the witch of Endor, described in the Bible (1 Samuel 28), who summoned the spirit of Samuel in the presence of Saul. This biblical episode was widely accepted as irrefutable evidence for the existence of witchcraft. Necromancy (from Greek words meaning dead' and 'divination'), a word corrupted by medieval Latin writers into nigromantia, can be divided into two main branches: divination by means of ghosts, and divination from corpses, both of which represent related forms of forbidden knowledge. The second method led to the disinterment of corpses and rifling of graves for the grisly charms which magicians and witches considered necessary for the effective performance of the magical arts. To evoke the dead the magician needed to obtain the help of powerful spirits, both for his own protection and to compel the corpse or ghost to submit to his will. A spell from ancient Greece calls upon the powers of the mighty Kore, Persephone, Ereshkigal, Adonis, Hermes and Thoth, to bind the dead. According to a ritual described by Seneca, the Roman dramatist, the summoning of the dead involved not only a burnt sacrifice but a blood-drenched altar. See Grand Grimoire, grimoires and Heptameron. Related books: Communing With the Spirits : The Magical Practice of Necromancy Simply and Lucidly Explained, With Full Instructions for the Practice. Forbidden Rites : A Necromancer's Manual of the Fifteenth Century (Magic in History) [Hardcover]. Forbidden Rites : A Necromancer's Manual of the Fifteenth Century (Magic in History) [Paperback]. Israel's Beneficent Dead : Ancestor Cult and Necromancy in Ancient Israelite Religion and Tradition. The Book of Black Magic and Ceremonial Magic : The Secret Tradition in Goèetia : including the rites and mysteries of Goèetic theurgy, sorcery and infernal necromancy. Voodoo : A Chrestomathy of Necromancy. Further info: Benny Hinn and Necromancy. Jehovah's Witnesses Necromancy. Medieval Sourcebook: Tales of the Devil. Methodological Naturalism and the Supernatural. Story of Witch of Endor. Who Were the Necromancers? - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Necromancy 101
-Caveat Lector- http://realmagick.com/articles/17/1817.html - Necromancy 101[credits] by Leilah Wendell Stop me if you've heard this one. Necromancy is a dark and dangerous practice so make sure that you stand in your magic circle to protect yourself from evil spirits. Puhlease! Don't tell me that some people still buy into that antique mumbo jumbo. Although, with the advent of the internet, we have immediate access to all types of information, and when one does an innocent search for a topic, one never knows if the information procured is unbiased and accurate, or simply the by-product of dis-informed minds seeking to perpetuate fear mostly due to sheer ignorance. Case in point, Necromancy, a simple little word that commands a whole gamut of hyperbole. Oh, the sites you'll see! Now folks, I'm not someone who publicly enjoys bitching and moaning (that often), but everyone has that one niggling thing that just sticks in their craw enough to yell ouch outloud. Folks, it's time to put away all the bad old books inspired by christain fear, intolerance, ignorance and dogma bias and open yourselves to a purer, unconditional level of consciousness. Necromantic practice is aligned with neither the 'right' nor the 'left' hand path. It is simply an acute attunement to what I like to call, the death energy, an affiliation and natural affinity some people have for the current of transition. It is a fact that some people just feel more at home among the dead rather than the living. Most of the historical information on necromancy is so heavily steeped in the christain religion that such staples of the craft like The Black Arts by Richard Cavendish and The Grand Grimoire by A.E Waite, the Malleus Maleficarum and anything by Eliphas Levi, while fun reading as a teenager, are no longer a viable nor accurate view of necromancy in today's world where many belief pantheons overlap to create the multi-cultural society we live in. The world is a big, diverse place no longer bounded by the harsh constraints that produced these types of fear-inspired texts. It amazes me that there are several sites out there purporting to be 'lefthand path necromancy that simply reiterate the same old christian based texts as their Grimoires. True necromancy, or what I prefer to call Necromantic Practice can only be achieved when all elements of fear are eradicated. Necromantic Practice does not involve dominance and servitude. In other words, the spirits of the dead, or of Death Itself, are not at the magician's beck and call, nor will they, nor He do your bidding. It is only the arrogant soul that believes this. One cannot conjure nor command spirits. In earlier times, Necromantic rituals were often elaborately ghoulish, and irreverently brutal. Because of this, Necromancy (or divination through the dead) was considered a black art. Something engaged in only by practitioners of sinister magic. True Necromantic workings, however, do not involve using brutality, desecration of the dead, or any other practice that one would consider the antithesis of reverence. Such methods are the trappings of fear and ignorance. We do not seek to have the dead tell us our futures, nor to call souls back from that distant realm to do our bidding. In High Necromantic practice, the cadaver is simply a consecrated catalyst - an empty chalice, if you will, that we will attempt to fill with a potent spirit. It is the host body. The death house is not violated, nor is the host. All elements are treated with the love and sacrosanctity a true magician must have if he or she ever hopes to succeed in contacting and sharing consciousness with non-corporeal entities. Necromantic rituals are neither black nor white magic. They are rites of twilight, a merging of dark and light in a beautiful and natural union where all dividing lines become a blur. Black and white are simply sides of the same coin of Truth. There is no balance of one without the other. Everything in the universe must have its balancing factor, or there would be no universe at all. There is great beauty and divinity in the darkness, though fear of the unknown keeps many from looking. If you have an open heart and are pure of spirit, you may be graced by the presence of spirits, but only when one is humbled by Love and perforce of Faith will one be ready to receive their message and appreciate the visitation for what it is. Contact with spirits, whether the spirits of the dead, or higher entities entails responsibility. It is not a game to be engaged in for egocentric purposes. You can play in your magic circle until one day you are mature enough to realize that no circle is necessary, nor can such trappings of man contain any energies outside of our realm. Many people believe that if they 'raise' the dead, that they can tell one's future because spirits are not bounded by time and space as we know it. However, if a spirit has something vital to impart to you, IT will call upon you, not
Re: [CTRL] Link- USAF Active Denial Technology
great stuff thanks for reminding us... the air force server's fact sheet http://www.de.afrl.af.mil/factsheets/activedenial.html air force's news release http://www.de.afrl.af.mil/News/2001/01-09.html janes info http://www.janes.co.uk/defence/news/jdw/jdw010302_1_n.shtml report regarding the marine corps http://www.datafilter.com/mc/c_airForceTimesOnNonlethalCrowdControlWeapon.html On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 07:54 AM, William Shannon wrote: http://mirrors.meepzorp.com/deps.org/adt/
[CTRL] Necromancy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.paganlibrary.com/reference/necromancy.php - Necromancy Taken from the 1960 reprint of AN ENCLYCLOPAEDIA OF OCCULTISM by Lewis Spence, University Books, Hyde Park, New York. First published in 1920, it is considered to be one of the best sources on the subject. Submitted by Alan Wright, Atlanta GA, Illumi-Net 404-377-1141 NECROMANCY: Or divination by means of the spirits of the dead, from the Greek work `nekos', dead; and `manteria', divination. It is through its Italian form nigromancia that it came to be known as the Black Art. With the Greeks it originally signified the descent into Hades in order to consult the dead rather than summoning the dead into the mortal sphere again. The art is of almost universal usage. Considerable difference of opinion exists among modern adepts as to the exact methods to be properly pursued in the necromantic art, and it must be borne in mind the necromancy, which in the Middle Ages was called sorcery, shades into modern spiritualistic practice. There is no doubt, however, that necromancy is the touchstone of occultism, for if, after careful preparation the adept can carry through to a successful issue, the raising of the soul from the other world, he has proved the value of his art. It would be fruitless in this place to enter into a psychological discussion as to whether the feat is possible of accomplishment or not, and we will confine ourselves tit he material which has been placed at our disposal by the sages of the past, who have left full details as to how the process should be approached. In the case of a compact between the conjurer and the devil, no ceremony is necessary, as the familiar is ever at hand to do the behest of his masters. This, however, is never the case with the true sorcerer, who preserves his independence, and trusts to his profound knowledge of the art and his powers of command; his object therefore is to 'constrain' some spirit to appear before him, and to guard himself from the danger of provoking such beings. The magician, it must be understood, always has an assistant, and every article named is prepared according to rules well known in the black art. In the first place, they are to fix upon a spot proper for such purpose; which must be either in a subterraneous vault, hung around with black, and lighted by a magical torch; or else in the center of some thick wood or desert, or upon some extensive, unfrequented plain, where several roads meet, or amidst the ruins of ancient castles, abbeys, monasteries, etc., or amongst the rocks on the sea shore, in some private detached churchyard, or any other solemn, melancholy place between the hours of twelve and one in the night, either when the moon shines very bright, or else when the elements are disturbed with storms, thunder, lightning, wind, and rain; for, in these places, times, and seasons, it is contended that spirits can with less difficulty manifest themselves to mortal eyes, and continue visible with the least pain, in this elemental external world. When the proper time and place is fixed on, a magic circle is to be formed, within which, the master and his associate are carefully to retire. The dimensions of the circle are as follow: - A piece of ground is usually chosen, nine feet square, at the full extent of which parallel lines are draw n within the other, having sundry crosses and triangles described between them, close to which is formed the first or outer circle, then, about half-a-foot within the same, a second circle is described, and within that another square correspondent to the first, the center of which is the seat of spot where the master and associate are to be placed. The vacancies formed by the various lines and angles of the figure are filled up with the holy names of God, having crosses and triangles described between them. The reason assigned by magicians and others for this institution and use of circles, is, that so much ground being blessed and consecrated by such holy words and ceremonies as they make use of forming it, hath a secret force to expel all evil spirits from the bounds thereof, and, being sprinkled with pure, sanctified water, the ground is purified from all uncleanliness; besides, the holy names of God being written over every part of it, its force becomes so powerful that no evil spirit hath ability to break through it, or to get at the magician and his companion, by reason of the antipathy in nature they bear to these sacred names. And the reason given for the triangles is, that if the spirit be not easily brought to speak the truth, they may by the exorcist be conjured to enter the same, where, by virtue of the names of the essence and divinity of God, they can speak nothing but what is true and right. The circle, therefore, according to this account of it, is the principal fort and shield of the magician, from which he is not, at the peril
[CTRL] Illuminati/insider death-bed confession tap
-Caveat Lector- http://64.159.95.233/ Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] surveillance society - political forecasting
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for some new directions :-) with your description of promis, I couldn't help but remember some interesting material I was discussing with an associate regarding high-end political forecasting... what do you know about Bruce Bueno De Mesquita and his work? http://www.nuclearabolition.research.umich.edu/bruce.html Decision Insights Inc (DII) http://www.diiusa.com/ Below is a de-classified study the CIA conducted to assess the accuracy and usefulness of the DII model. DII is referred to as POLICON in this report. http://www.diiusa.com/cia.html regards, http://www.humanunderground.com/ On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 02:40 PM, eric stewart wrote: promis more important is that covenant, oops i mean promis, has been suplemented by Brainstorm...AI prog designed to turn thinking habits into predictable vectors of probability to predict when a person or an army was going to go off...excellent for tracking sleepers... A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [the_octopus] Plane into Tampa Skyscraper; Three other small planes cras...
forwarded message - four small plane crashes today ---BeginMessage--- Coincidences? Four small plane crashes. Florida (5 PM Eastern), Colorado (4 PM Mountain, 6 PM Eastern), Puerto Rico (?), California (1 PM Pacific, 4 PM Eastern) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2430-2002Jan5.html The Associated Press Saturday, January 5, 2002; 6:48 PM TAMPA, Fla. A small plane with a student pilot took off without permission Saturday, did not respond to orders to land from a Coast Guard helicopter and then crashed into a skyscraper, authorities said. A law enforcement official in Washington, speaking only on condition of anonymity, said the FBI does not believe the crash is related to terrorism but has sent agents to the scene. The student left the St. Petersburg-Clearwater Airport in a Cessna 172 and then crashed into the Bank of America building, Coast Guard Lt. Lance Isakson said. It hit near the 20th floor of the 40-story building. Air traffic controllers notified the Coast Guard helicopter that the plane had taken off without clearance, said Coast Guard Lt. j.g. Charlotte Pittman. The helicopter intercepted the plane and attempted to give the pilot visual signals to land at a small airport, but the plane did not respond, Pittman said. She said the plane was only a few yards from the helicopter when it was signaled to land. Pittman said she has no doubt the pilot understood what the Coast Guard helicopter was indicating. Federal Aviation Authority spokesman Scott Brenneer said the plane was flown by a student pilot who did not have permission to fly the aircraft. Tampa Police Department spokesman Joe Durkin said there was no immediate word on injuries. Tampa Police and fire crews were on the scene of the crash, which occurred shortly after 5 p.m. Hijacked passenger planes were used to collapse the World Trade Center towers and attack the Pentagon in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. A fourth hijacked plane crashed in western Pennsylvania. Some of the pilots in the hijackings had been trained at Florida flight schools. Bank of America, based in Charlotte, N.C., is the third-largest U.S. bank. It employs about 143,000 people and serves about 30 million households in 20 states. Bank officials did not immediately return calls for comment Saturday. - http://9news.com/newsroom/14257.html Plane Crashes in Boulder Story by 9NEWS Staff and Jeannie Piper January 5, 2002 - 5:06pm BOULDER Emergency crews are headed to a plane crash in Boulder. The plane went down west of U.S. 36 near Neva Road shortly after 4 p.m, according to a Boulder County sheriff¹s dispatcher. A spokesman at Denver International Airport says there is one fatality confirmed. The plane is reportedly a single-engine Cessna. It¹s not known how many people were on board or why it crashed. 9NEWS has a crew headed to the scene and will let you know when more information becomes available. Refresh your browser for updates. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/20020105/wl/puerto_rico_plane_crash_1.html Saturday January 5 4:43 PM ET Small Plane Crashes in Puerto Rico SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) - A small plane crashed in fog and rain Saturday in northeastern Puerto Rico, killing at least five people on board, including an infant, authorities said. The 12-seater smashed into a remote, rocky area near the Rio Grande, some 22 miles east of San Juan, said Oscar Sotomayor, acting operations director of the State Agency for Emergency Management. The plane ``broke apart into fragments'' upon impact, he said. There was no sign of survivors. It was not immediately clear where the flight originated, where it was heading and who was on board. It appeared to be a private aircraft or chartered flight because investigators so far had not been able to match the registration with regular flight operators on the U.S. territory, Sotomayor said. Firefighters and emergency crews have recovered five bodies, said Justina Quinones, manager of the emergency management agency. Their nationalities and identities were not yet known. Workers were still combing the wreckage for other possible victims, Amaury Hernandez, head of an emergency paramedic team, said by telephone. The landing gear and fuselage have been located, but steep terrain and a drizzling rain were hampering efforts to retrieve the rest of the plane's scattered parts, firefighter Eric Nieves said. - http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/1416329p-1492947c.html Small plane crashes a block from Fullerton airport Sacramento Bee Published 2:45 p.m. PST Saturday, Jan. 5, 2002 BUENA PARK, Calif. (AP) - A single-engine plane went down a block away from an airport Saturday, knocking down power lines in a fiery crash. There probably aren't going to be any survivors, said Orange County Fire Authority Capt. Steven Miller. He said he did not know how many people were aboard the six-seat plane, which crashed in Buena Park a block west of Fullerton Municipal
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forwarded message - details of crash in Tampa today ---BeginMessage--- http://ap.tbo.com/ap/florida/MGAJ9OI54WC.html Small Plane Crashes Into Skyscraper in Tampa By Vickie Chachere Associated Press Writer Published: Jan 5, 2002 TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - A 15-year-old student pilot crashed a small plane into a downtown Tampa building Saturday, where it was lodged midway up a 40-plus story bank tower. One person was killed. Police would not immediately confirm if the person killed was the pilot, Charles J. Bishop, of Palm Harbor. Bishop was brought by his grandmother to the National Aviation flight school for a 5 p.m. flying lesson, said Marianne Pasha, a spokeswoman for Pinellas County Sheriff's Office. The next thing the instructor knew he was gone, she said. Bishop had been taking lessons for two years, Pasha said. The plane was a four-seat 2000 model Cessna 172R, a high wing single-engine airplane. He was alone in the plane, Pasha said. The plane was pursued by a U.S. Coast Guard helicopter before it crashed shortly after 5 p.m. into the marble and glass Bank of America building, its tail visibly dangling from the western side of the tower at about the 20th floor. There building did not appear to be on fire, said Tampa Police Department spokesman Joe Durkin. The plane took off without authorization from the St. Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport, said U.S. Coast Guard Petty Officer Robert Suddarth. The plane was not cleared to take off but took off anyway, Suddarth said. A Coast Guard HH60 Jayhawk helicopter on routine patrol spotted the plane, approached it and tried to signal for the pilot to land, Suddarth said. The guy didn't land, Suddarth said. The plane went into the building, the helicopter veered off. The plane is owned by National Aviation Holding, Inc. out of Clearwater. The FBI did not initially believe the crash was terror-related but sent agents to the scene, according to a law enforcement official in Washington who spoke only on condition of anonymity. Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Christopher White said the crash had not disrupted air traffic over the area. He said the National Transportation Safety Board was dispatching someone to investigate the crash. Eric Reyes, a 25-year-old mortgage broker from Tampa, was stopped at a traffic light downtown when the plane struck the building. I saw a big cloud of smoke, Reyes said. I told my girlfriend I thought it was window washers who had fallen. Reyes said he saw one wing from the plane fall and hit the ground, followed moments later by another wing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/xYTolB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- The Octopus: A Yahoo! Groups Message Service Founded August 25th, 1999 In Memoriam: Danny Casolaro Jim Keith Ron Bonds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
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Re: [CTRL] THE CARLYLE GROUP
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/5/02 6:32:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Story: THE CARLYLE GROUP: THE MOST POWERFUL COMPANY YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF That was a great interview. Samantha A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] [SupportersofPresidentBush] Did G-d issue a Deed to the Israelites? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Well Citizen Wayne - you see why it is so important to prove one's pedigree when such generous claims to land are claimed. As of late this lost Anastasia died who had claim to be the little girl of the Czar of Russia. Now one could tell from her skin she was not of the royal lines, for she had skin of tanned leather and wrinkled up like old prune face. And, when she died DNA test and sure enough AN IMPOSTER. So with all these outlandish claims to all this land, well it would seem all jews are today strangers in what could have been paradise but what has become Hell Hole of Mid East. One thing they have not considered - the Black House of Israel, Americann Blacks they imported from USA - their leader once lived next door to James Jones and you know what happened to him.Now I figure they will multiply like Rabbits and within 20 years Israel will be Mo Town of Mid East. Now I wonder if they took their pedigree? Wonder if those Palestinians lay claim by Squatters Rights on their own land for now, it is sad for they are, like the Rocker - Strangers, in their own land (Palestine means strangers in own land) How do all these Black Negro Americans lay claim to land in Israel? And why did Larry Silverstein want to build Free Trade Zone in Negav? Officials in Israel were also curious. Go - Replenish the land - was this message to Black House of Israel? So Go - Multiply like Rabbits - nothing else to do but dodge bullets and multiply. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Does J2 have G-d's Deed to the Chosen People?
-Caveat Lector- You know, throughout history, the winner of the war has always gotten to draw the borders, with the exception of post-1948 Israel. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [the_octopus] Plane into Tampa Skyscraper; Three other small planes cras...
-Caveat Lector- The solution they will come up with is to ban private civilian aircraft. This is a set-up to benefit the failing airlines. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Electromagnetic Bombs Could Throw Civilization Back 200 Years
-Caveat Lector- E-BOMB In the blink of an eye, electromagnetic bombs could throw civilization back 200 years. And terrorists can build them for $400. http://popularmechanics.com/science/military/2001/9/e-bomb/print.phtml In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. http://www.truthout.com Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
