[CTRL] Terror war must target 60 nations, says Bush

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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June 03, 2002

Terror war must target 60 nations, says Bush

From James Doran in Washington

THE United States must be prepared to take the War on Terror to up to 60
countries if weapons of mass destruction are to be kept out of terrorists’
hands, President Bush said at the weekend.

His impassioned speech to 1,000 graduates of West Point Military Academy in
New York State on Saturday marks a watershed in the Administration’s foreign
policy.

Mr Bush said that terrorism cells in countries that make up close to one
third of the globe must be actively sought and dismantled. “We must take that
battle to the enemy, disrupt his plans and confront the worst threats before
they emerge,” he said, adding that Americans must be “ready for pre-emptive
action when necessary to defend our liberty and to defend our lives”.

He said: “In the world we have entered, the only path to safety is the path
of action. And this nation will act.”

The 52-minute speech also contained a series of thinly veiled attacks on
countries already singled out as enemies of the US. Mr Bush did not mention
any country by name, but he pointed repeatedly to non-democratic regimes that
are said to sponsor terrorism. In what officials later hinted was a reference
to President Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq, Mr Bush said that attempts to
contain terrorist activity and anti-US sentiments within some countries would
fail without direct action.

“(Containment) is not possible when unbalanced dictators with weapons of mass
destruction can deliver those weapons on missiles or can provide them to
terrorist allies,” he said.

The criticism of foreign countries appeared to go further than any other he
has made since September 11. “Some nations need military training to fight
terror and we will provide it,” Mr Bush said. “Other nations oppose terror
but tolerate the hatred that leads to terror and that must change.” White
House officials told The Washington Post that these comments were directed at
Middle East allies such as Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

If the United States decides to make surprise strikes on other countries, it
will mark a big change in strategy for the US military, which traditionally
acts only in self-defence.

The speech was billed by the White House as the first instalment of a renewed
“overall security framework”. The framework will be expanded in a national
security strategy document expected in July.

Mr Bush said that America’s foreign policy would have three strands. “We will
defend the peace against threats from terrorists and tyrants. We
will preserve the peace by building good relations among the great powers.
And will we will extend the peace by encouraging free and open
societies on every continent.”

He said that the conflict the graduates would be required to fight would
differ greatly from that fought by their forefathers in Japan and Europe.
“Enemies in the past needed great armies and great industrial capabilities to
endanger the American people and our nation,” Mr Bush said. “The attacks of
September 11 required a few hundred thousand dollars in the hands of a few
dozen evil and deluded men. All of the chaos and suffering they caused came
at much less than the cost of a single tank.”

Abdul Rahman Yassin, one of the men accused of bombing the World Trade Centre
in 1993, planned to attack New York’s biggest Jewish districts, but his
cohorts decided that more Jews would be killed if the Twin Towers were
destroyed, according to CBS news. The station said that the bomber had told
them that he was talked into the attack as revenge for “my Palestinian
brothers and my brothers in Saudi Arabia”.


If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
 -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on
12/18/2000.
As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html

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Re: [CTRL] Terror war must target 60 nations, says Bush

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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Like the recent CNN banner above the Bush middle east trajedy, the new 'New
World Order'. I guess it's an improvement on his dad's NeoNazi NWO. New and
Improved, just like the economy...

Steve

On 30 Jun 2002 at 0:03, in, it, s, ctrl, ciadrugs wrote:

 June 03, 2002

 Terror war must target 60 nations, says Bush

 From James Doran in Washington

 THE United States must be prepared to take the War on Terror to up to 60
 countries if weapons of mass destruction are to be kept out of terrorists’
 hands, President Bush said at the weekend.

 His impassioned speech to 1,000 graduates of West Point Military Academy in
 New York State on Saturday marks a watershed in the Administration’s foreign
 policy.

 Mr Bush said that terrorism cells in countries that make up close to one
 third of the globe must be actively sought and dismantled. “We must take that
 battle to the enemy, disrupt his plans and confront the worst threats before
 they emerge,” he said, adding that Americans must be “ready for pre-emptive
 action when necessary to defend our liberty and to defend our lives”.

 He said: “In the world we have entered, the only path to safety is the path
 of action. And this nation will act.”

 The 52-minute speech also contained a series of thinly veiled attacks on
 countries already singled out as enemies of the US. Mr Bush did not mention
 any country by name, but he pointed repeatedly to non-democratic regimes that
 are said to sponsor terrorism. In what officials later hinted was a reference
 to President Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq, Mr Bush said that attempts to
 contain terrorist activity and anti-US sentiments within some countries would
 fail without direct action.

 “(Containment) is not possible when unbalanced dictators with weapons of mass
 destruction can deliver those weapons on missiles or can provide them to
 terrorist allies,” he said.

 The criticism of foreign countries appeared to go further than any other he
 has made since September 11. “Some nations need military training to fight
 terror and we will provide it,” Mr Bush said. “Other nations oppose terror
 but tolerate the hatred that leads to terror and that must change.” White
 House officials told The Washington Post that these comments were directed at
 Middle East allies such as Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

 If the United States decides to make surprise strikes on other countries, it
 will mark a big change in strategy for the US military, which traditionally
 acts only in self-defence.

 The speech was billed by the White House as the first instalment of a renewed
 “overall security framework”. The framework will be expanded in a national
 security strategy document expected in July.

 Mr Bush said that America’s foreign policy would have three strands. “We will
 defend the peace against threats from terrorists and tyrants. We will
 preserve the peace by building good relations among the great powers. And
 will we will extend the peace by encouraging free and open societies on every
 continent.”

 He said that the conflict the graduates would be required to fight would
 differ greatly from that fought by their forefathers in Japan and Europe.
 “Enemies in the past needed great armies and great industrial capabilities to
 endanger the American people and our nation,” Mr Bush said. “The attacks of
 September 11 required a few hundred thousand dollars in the hands of a few
 dozen evil and deluded men. All of the chaos and suffering they caused came
 at much less than the cost of a single tank.”

 Abdul Rahman Yassin, one of the men accused of bombing the World Trade Centre
 in 1993, planned to attack New York’s biggest Jewish districts, but his
 cohorts decided that more Jews would be killed if the Twin Towers were
 destroyed, according to CBS news. The station said that the bomber had told
 them that he was talked into the attack as revenge for “my Palestinian
 brothers and my brothers in Saudi Arabia”.




If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
 -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on
12/18/2000.
As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html

Steve Wingate, Webmaster
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Re: [CTRL] SNET: Terror war must target 60 nations, says Bush

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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All terrorist countries should be held accountable, including their leaders,
including the US,
Including Bush!

Steve
Not a Terrorist but a Patriot


On 30 Jun 2002 at 0:03, Steve Wingate wrote:

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 June 03, 2002

 Terror war must target 60 nations, says Bush

 From James Doran in Washington

 THE United States must be prepared to take the War on Terror to up to 60
 countries if weapons of mass destruction are to be kept out of terrorists’
 hands, President Bush said at the weekend.

 His impassioned speech to 1,000 graduates of West Point Military Academy in
 New York State on Saturday marks a watershed in the Administration’s foreign
 policy.

 Mr Bush said that terrorism cells in countries that make up close to one
 third of the globe must be actively sought and dismantled. “We must take that
 battle to the enemy, disrupt his plans and confront the worst threats before
 they emerge,” he said, adding that Americans must be “ready for pre-emptive
 action when necessary to defend our liberty and to defend our lives”.

 He said: “In the world we have entered, the only path to safety is the path
 of action. And this nation will act.”

 The 52-minute speech also contained a series of thinly veiled attacks on
 countries already singled out as enemies of the US. Mr Bush did not mention
 any country by name, but he pointed repeatedly to non-democratic regimes that
 are said to sponsor terrorism. In what officials later hinted was a reference
 to President Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq, Mr Bush said that attempts to
 contain terrorist activity and anti-US sentiments within some countries would
 fail without direct action.

 “(Containment) is not possible when unbalanced dictators with weapons of mass
 destruction can deliver those weapons on missiles or can provide them to
 terrorist allies,” he said.

 The criticism of foreign countries appeared to go further than any other he
 has made since September 11. “Some nations need military training to fight
 terror and we will provide it,” Mr Bush said. “Other nations oppose terror
 but tolerate the hatred that leads to terror and that must change.” White
 House officials told The Washington Post that these comments were directed at
 Middle East allies such as Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

 If the United States decides to make surprise strikes on other countries, it
 will mark a big change in strategy for the US military, which traditionally
 acts only in self-defence.

 The speech was billed by the White House as the first instalment of a renewed
 “overall security framework”. The framework will be expanded in a national
 security strategy document expected in July.

 Mr Bush said that America’s foreign policy would have three strands. “We will
 defend the peace against threats from terrorists and tyrants. We
 will preserve the peace by building good relations among the great powers.
 And will we will extend the peace by encouraging free and open
 societies on every continent.”

 He said that the conflict the graduates would be required to fight would
 differ greatly from that fought by their forefathers in Japan and Europe.
 “Enemies in the past needed great armies and great industrial capabilities to
 endanger the American people and our nation,” Mr Bush said. “The attacks of
 September 11 required a few hundred thousand dollars in the hands of a few
 dozen evil and deluded men. All of the chaos and suffering they caused came
 at much less than the cost of a single tank.”

 Abdul Rahman Yassin, one of the men accused of bombing the World Trade Centre
 in 1993, planned to attack New York’s biggest Jewish districts, but his
 cohorts decided that more Jews would be killed if the Twin Towers were
 destroyed, according to CBS news. The station said that the bomber had told
 them that he was talked into the attack as revenge for “my Palestinian
 brothers and my brothers in Saudi Arabia”.


 If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
 long as I'm the dictator.
  -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on
 12/18/2000.
 As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website
 http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html

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If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
 -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on
12/18/2000.
As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website

[CTRL] A dirty bomb from Pakistan? Or a dirty trick from Washington?

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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(A dirty leader from the evil ones rules our country. Can we say Bush? You
had better watch what you say!!! Don't worry, ball-headed homosexual man who
speaks for the Bush, we will!)

A dirty bomb from Pakistan? Or a dirty trick from Washington?

Just as the heat was building on the CIA and FBI over failures of
intelligence-gathering, up popped a brand new suspect. Rupert Cornwell smells
a rat

16 June 2002

It sure sent a jolt through the United States. Yet last week's much
ballyhooed arrest of the dirty bomb suspect Jose Padilla now seems, like
other developments in the war against terror, to have been a political
device of the Bush administration – designed to distract attention from US
intelligence failures and solidify support behind President Bush.

For who, exactly, is Mr Padilla, aka Abdullah al-Muhajir? Is he a highly
trained al-Qa'ida operative who was about to explode a radioactive dirty
bomb in Washington DC, as the US attorney general, John Ashcroft, would have
us believe? Or a Chicago street punk of no great danger to anyone?

With each passing day, the latter looks more likely. No plot and no
accomplices have been discovered, despite Mr Padilla having been in detention
for more than a month before his existence was revealed to the nation, which
duly panicked.

As the New York Times said on Thursday, quoting some of those unnamed US
officials who abound in the nation's press, he was an unlikely terrorist, a
low-level gang member with no technical knowledge of nuclear materials who
was arrested long before he represented a significant terrorist threat.

And why, if it was as important as Mr Ashcroft claimed, was his arrest kept
secret for five weeks – only for the attorney general to reveal it while in
Moscow of all places?

Some might claim the venue was oddly apt, though. With his fierce
prosecutorial zeal and taste for scary hyperbole, Mr Ashcroft calls to mind
Andrei Vyshinsky, the infamous prosecutor at Stalin's show trials, whose
prime contribution to 20th-century legal doctrine was the presumption of
guilt against those unfortunate enough to be in his sights.

For enemy of the people read enemy combatant, as Mr Padilla, a US
citizen, has now been designated. He sits in a naval prison in South
Carolina, presumed guilty but not charged with any criminal offence. Indeed,
Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, has acknowledged that he may never be
charged. Mr Padilla's lawyers responded to that statement with a petition to
the courts, saying their client's detention without time limit or the right
to counsel should be a constitutional concern to everyone.

No one would dispute the US's right to defend itself against terrorists, nor
that this shadowy struggle, asymmetric in the jargon of conflict experts,
demands exceptional, equally shadowy means. But Mr Padilla's fate is
currently shared by hundreds of non-Americans, mostly Arab individuals, swept
up in dragnets in the days and weeks following 11 September, and nine months
later still in detention on the most minor of charges. The only difference
is, no one knows their names.

One thinks also of Lotfi Raissi, an Algerian pilot whose one stroke of good
luck was to be arrested in Britain, not the US. He was picked up at his home
near Heathrow airport on 21 September 2001, and Mr Ashcroft's Justice
Department instantly demanded his extradition on the grounds that he had
trained some of the 11 September hijackers.

But not a shred of evidence was ever forthcoming from Washington, beyond the
fact that Mr Raissi was an Arab and had trained at an Arizona flight school
at roughly the same time as Hani Hanjour, one of the hijackers of American
Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon. In February he was
released on bail, and in April his case was thrown out entirely. Had he been
in the US, however, he would undoubtedly still be rotting quietly in jail.

But the fanfare around Mr Padilla served Mr Bush's purposes perfectly.
Forgotten were the host of clues missed by the FBI and the CIA before 11
September. The US was on full nuclear terror alert, ready once more to take
the President's word for anything and to support his plans for a new super-
ministry for domestic security.

Recent revelations about Khalid Almidhar, another of the AA77 hijackers,
are equally instructive, albeit for different reasons. More unnamed officials
told Newsweek magazine that Almidhar was spotted by the CIA at a meeting of
al-Qa'ida operatives in Malaysia in January 2000. But the CIA, it seemed,
failed to alert other agencies, including the immigration services who might
have picked him up on entry into the US.

But wait. A few days later, other intelligence sources disclosed, this time
to the Washington Post, that the CIA had in fact told the FBI. By now an
alert reader will have divined that the disclosures have less to do with the
fight against terrorism than with the equally entrenched fight between the
FBI and the CIA. And as armistice 

[CTRL] Fwd: US: Doomed by Bush to Be a POLICE STATE? by Ron Paul

2002-06-30 Thread William Shannon

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Are We Doomed To Be a Police State?
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD

U.S. House of Representatives, June 27, 2002


Most Americans believe we live in dangerous times, and I must agree.
Today I want to talk about how I see those dangers and what Congress
ought to do about them.

Of course, the Monday-morning quarterbacks are now explaining, with
political overtones, what we should have done to prevent the 9/11
tragedy. Unfortunately, in doing so, foreign policy changes are never considered.

I have, for more than two decades, been severely critical of our
post-World War II foreign policy. I have perceived it to be not in our
best interest and have believed that it presented a serious danger to
our security.

For the record, in January of 2000 I stated the following on this floor:

Our commercial interests and foreign policy are no longer separate...as
bad as it is that average Americans are forced to subsidize such a
system, we additionally are placed in greater danger because of our
arrogant policy of bombing nations that do not submit to our wishes.
This generates hatred directed toward America ...and exposes us to a
greater threat of terrorism, since this is the only vehicle our victims
can use to retaliate against a powerful military state...the cost in
terms of lost liberties and unnecessary exposure to terrorism is
difficult to assess, but in time, it will become apparent to all of us
that foreign interventionism is of no benefit to American citizens, but
instead is a threat to our liberties.

Again, let me remind you I made these statements on the House floor in
January 2000. Unfortunately, my greatest fears and warnings have been
borne out.

I believe my concerns are as relevant today as they were then. We should
move with caution in this post-9/11 period so we do not make our
problems worse overseas while further undermining our liberties at home.

So far our post-9/11 policies have challenged the rule of law here at
home, and our efforts against the al Qaeda have essentially come up
empty-handed. The best we can tell now, instead of being in one place,
the members of the al Qaeda are scattered around the world, with more of
them in allied Pakistan than in Afghanistan. Our efforts to find our
enemies have put the CIA in 80 different countries. The question that we
must answer some day is whether we can catch enemies faster than we make
new ones. So far it appears we are losing.

As evidence mounts that we have achieved little in reducing the
terrorist threat, more diversionary tactics will be used. The big one
will be to blame Saddam Hussein for everything and initiate a major war
against Iraq, which will only generate even more hatred toward America
from the Muslim world.

But, Mr. Speaker, my subject today is whether America is a police state.
I'm sure the large majority of Americans would answer this in the
negative. Most would associate military patrols, martial law and summary
executions with a police state, something obviously not present in our
everyday activities. However, those with knowledge of Ruby Ridge, Mount
Carmel and other such incidents may have a different opinion.

The principal tool for sustaining a police state, even the most
militant, is always economic control and punishment by denying
disobedient citizens such things as jobs or places 

[CTRL] 9-11 Mossad Agents Admit Mission

2002-06-30 Thread William Shannon
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Rumor Mill News Reading Room Forum 

9-11 Mossad Agents Admit Mission 
Posted By: Christopher Bollyn 
Date: Friday, 28 June 2002, 2:32 p.m. 

ISRAELI AGENTS NABBED ON 9-11 ADMIT: 
“OUR PURPOSE WAS TO DOCUMENT THE EVENT” 
By Christopher Bollyn 
American Free Press 
Americanfreepress.net 

The jubilant Israeli intelligence agents caught photographing the attacks on the World Trade Center were allowed to return to Israel where they divulged the purpose of their mission on a radio program: “Our purpose was to document the event." 

The explosive story of the 5 suspicious Israelis seen celebrating while filming the attacks on the World Trade Center was first reported nationally in American Free Press shortly after September 11. ABC News recently reported on this story and added a comment that deserves attention. 

The Forward, a respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported that at least two of the men were Israeli intelligence (Mossad) agents. The Israeli agents were first seen filming the attack on the WTC while kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of a New Jersey apartment building across the river from lower Manhattan. 

"They seemed to be taking a movie," the resident who noticed them said. The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck her were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said. 

She found the behavior so suspicious that she wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police. The FBI was soon on the scene and a statewide bulletin was issued on the van. 

The van belonged to a Mossad front company called Urban Moving Systems. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was pulled over, and five Israelis: Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari, all between 22 and 27 years old, were arrested at gunpoint. One had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock while another carried two foreign passports. Box cutters were found in the van. 

“WE ARE NOT YOUR PROBLEM” 

According to the police report, one of the men said they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. Sivan Kurzberg, the driver, said, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." 

The case was turned over to the FBI's Foreign Counterintelligence Section because the FBI believed Urban Moving Systems was a “cover for an Israeli intelligence operation,” ABC reported. 

While the FBI searched the company’s Weehawken, N.J., offices, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives, the owner of the company, Dominic Suter, was allowed to flee the country. When FBI agents tried to interview Suter a second time they discovered that he had cleared out of his New Jersey home and fled to Israel. 

When ABC reporters visited Urban Moving Systems, “it looked as if it had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse.” 

The Israelis had been held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported, however, FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case, according to ABC. 

The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days and given as many as seven lie-detector tests. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie-detector test for 10 weeks and then failed it, according to his lawyer. 

“OUR PURPOSE WAS TO DOCUMENT THE EVENT." 

A deal was struck between Israeli and U.S. government officials after 71 days and the five Israelis were put on a plane, and deported to Israel. 

The detained Israelis discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. One of the men said: "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event." 

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Re: [CTRL] End Times For Israel?

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 Recent events in the Middle East leave me wondering whether we're
 witnessing not just the end of the Oslo peace process, but the end of the
 whole idea of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. 

Hardly.  There never really was an idea of a two-state solution to the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict.  It was always a myth.   Prudy

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[CTRL] Are We Doomed To Be a Police State?

2002-06-30 Thread M.A. Johnson

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~~for educational purposes only~~
[Title 17 U.S.C. section 107]

Are We Doomed To Be a Police State?
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD

U.S. House of Representatives, June 27, 2002

Most Americans believe we live in dangerous times, and
I must agree. Today I want to talk about how I see those
dangers and what Congress ought to do about them.

Of course, the Monday-morning quarterbacks are now
explaining, with political overtones, what we should
have done to prevent the 9/11 tragedy. Unfortunately, in
doing so, foreign policy changes are never considered.

I have, for more than two decades, been severely critical
of our post-World War II foreign policy. I have
perceived it to be not in our best interest and have
believed that it presented a serious danger to our
security.

For the record, in January of 2000 I stated the following
on this floor:

Our commercial interests and foreign policy are no
longer separate...as bad as it is that average Americans
are forced to subsidize such a system, we additionally
are placed in greater danger because of our arrogant
policy of bombing nations that do not submit to our
wishes. This generates hatred directed toward America
...and exposes us to a greater threat of terrorism, since
this is the only vehicle our victims can use to retaliate
against a powerful military state...the cost in terms of
lost liberties and unnecessary exposure to terrorism is
difficult to assess, but in time, it will become apparent
to all of us that foreign interventionism is of no benefit
to American citizens, but instead is a threat to our
liberties.

Again, let me remind you I made these statements on the
House floor in January 2000. Unfortunately, my greatest
fears and warnings have been borne out.

I believe my concerns are as relevant today as they were
then. We should move with caution in this post-9/11
period so we do not make our problems worse overseas
while further undermining our liberties at home.

So far our post-9/11 policies have challenged the rule of
law here at home, and our efforts against the al Qaeda
have essentially come up empty-handed. The best we can
tell now, instead of being in one place, the members of
the al Qaeda are scattered around the world, with more
of them in allied Pakistan than in Afghanistan. Our efforts
to find our enemies have put the CIA in 80 different
countries. The question that we must answer some day is
whether we can catch enemies faster than we make new
ones. So far it appears we are losing.

As evidence mounts that we have achieved little in
reducing the terrorist threat, more diversionary tactics
will be used. The big one will be to blame Saddam
Hussein for everything and initiate a major war against
Iraq, which will only generate even more hatred toward
America from the Muslim world.

But, Mr. Speaker, my subject today is whether America
is a police state. I'm sure the large majority of Americans
would answer this in the negative. Most would associate
military patrols, martial law and summary executions
with a police state, something obviously not present in
our everyday activities. However, those with knowledge
of Ruby Ridge, Mount Carmel and other such incidents
may have a different opinion.

The principal tool for sustaining a police state, even the
most militant, is always economic control and punishment
by denying disobedient citizens such things as jobs or
places to live, and by levying fines and imprisonment.
The military is more often used in the transition phase to
a totalitarian state. Maintenance for long periods is
usually accomplished through economic controls on
commercial transactions, the use of all property, and
political dissent. Peaceful control through these efforts
can be achieved without storm troopers on our street
corners.

Terror and fear are used to achieve complacency and
obedience, especially when citizens are deluded into
believing they are still a free people. The changes, they
are assured, will be minimal, short-lived, and necessary,
such as those that occur in times of a declared war. Under
these conditions, most citizens believe that once the war
is won, the restrictions on their liberties will be
reversed. For the most part, however, after a declared
war is over, the return to normalcy is never complete. In
an undeclared war, without a precise enemy and
therefore no precise ending, returning to normalcy can
prove illusory.

We have just concluded a century of wars, declared and
undeclared, while at the same time responding to public
outcries for more economic equity. The question, as a
result of these policies, is: Are we already living in a
police state? If we are, what are we going to do about
it? If we are not, we need to know if there's any danger
that we're moving in that direction.

Most police states, surprisingly, come about through the
democratic process with majority support. During a
crisis, the rights of individuals and the minority are more
easily trampled, which is more likely to condition a

[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: WorldCom and Brown Brothers Harriman

2002-06-30 Thread RoadsEnd

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- Original Message - 
From: Linda Minor 
To: kate 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: Fw: WorldCom and Brown Brothers Harriman

Kate,
This fits in perfectly with Part 6.
LM


- Original Message - 
From: Linda Minor 
To: Lois 
Battuelo ; Catherine Austin Fitts 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 8:22 AM
Subject: WorldCom and Brown Brothers Harriman

http://www.freeedgar.com/search/ViewFilings.asp?CIK=723527Directory=912057Year=02SECIndex=21287Extension=.tstPathFlag=0TextFileSize=39673SFType=SDFiled=DateFiled=5/20/2002SourcePage=FilingsResultsUseFrame=1OEMSource=FormType=DEFR14ACompanyName=WORLDCOM+INC

We have entered into certain loan and 
guaranty arrangements involvingBernard J. Ebbers, principally relating to 
certain obligations to financialinstitutions secured by Mr. Ebbers' stock in 
WorldCom. We initially establishedthese arrangements in 2000, and have 
agreed to a series of modifications sinceJanuary 1, 2001. On April 29, 2002, 
in connection with Mr. Ebbers' resignationas President, Chief Executive 
Officer and Director of WorldCom, we consolidatedthese various loan and 
guaranty arrangements into a single promissory note inthe principal amount 
of approximately $408.2 million, repayable with accruedinterest over five 
years. This principal amount includes approximately$198.7 million that we 
have paid to Bank of America, N.A., or Bank of America,as repayment of 
outstanding indebtedness of Mr. Ebbers or certain companiescontrolled by him 
which we had guaranteed, approximately $36.5 million that wehave deposited 
to collateralize a letter of credit used to support financing toan unrelated 
third party, approximately $165 million that we have loaned toMr. Ebbers and 
all interest accrued on the foregoing amounts to April 29, 2002.These 
transactions are further described below. Since 
establishing these arrangements, we agreed to guarantee $150 
millionprincipal amount of indebtedness owed by Mr. Ebbers to Bank of 
America, as wellas certain additional payments and related costs. The 
additional paymentsincluded, among other things, amounts payable to Bank of 
America by Mr. Ebbersor certain companies controlled by him relating to an 
approximately$45.6 million letter of credit secured by a portion of Mr. 
Ebbers' stock andused to support financing to an unrelated third party; 
specified amounts,including margin debt, that became payable following stock 
price declines; andamounts subject to a margin call with respect to certain 
margin debt. The scheduled maturity of the Bank of 
America margin debt was extended inJanuary 2002 for a period of up to two 
years. However, following declines in theclosing price of the WorldCom group 
stock through early February 2002, we madeaggregate payments of 
approximately $198.7 million to repay all of theoutstanding debt covered by 
our guaranty and deposited with Bank of Americaapproximately $36.5 million 
to collateralize the letter of credit, which isscheduled to expire on 
February 15, 2003, subject to renewal, extension orsubstitution. Our 
payments, together with any amounts paid or costs incurred byus in 
connection with the letter of credit, plus accrued interest at a 
floatingrate equal to that under one of our credit facilities, were payable 
byMr. Ebbers to us, as modified in early April 2002, within 90 days after 
demand,or within 180 days after demand if subsequent to his death or 
incapacity. In addition to the guaranty arrangements, 
during 2000 we loaned$100 million to Mr. Ebbers. Since January 1, 2001, we 
have loaned himapproximately an additional $65 million, for a total maximum 
principal amount 

[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] London Telegraph picks up RBC gold price suppression report

2002-06-30 Thread RoadsEnd

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11:35a ET Sunday, June 30, 2002

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

The RBC Global Investment Management report
endorsing GATA's assertions of manipulation
of the gold market has crossed the Atlantic
from Toronto to London, where the Telegraph
newspaper has a story about it in Sunday's
edition.

The story's use of the word retraction is a
bit misleading, since RBC did not retract
the report as much as say it represented the
views of one investment manager -- he just
happens to be the firm's best -- and not the
views of the firm itself. No matter. Only a
central banker could miss the point.

The Telegraph story is appended here.

CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

* * *

Bank retracts gold price-fixing report

By Edward Simpkins
London Telegraph
Sunday, June 30, 2002

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The Royal Bank of Canada has issued a
retraction after a research report by one of
its most senior asset managers appeared to
support the claims of conspiracy theorists
that central banks have secretly connived to
keep the price of gold low.

The eight-page report published as a research
note by the investment division of the bank
speaks of increasing evidence of
unsustainable gold price manipulation and
says the evidence of secret price fixing is
overwhelming.

The report refers to the practice in the
past, when the price of gold was pegged to
currencies, of central banks dumping gold to
keep the price down. Today, instead of the
overt action of yesteryear, it is covert
because the market is allegedly free, the
report says.

It goes on to claim that instead of selling
physical gold the banks have sold
derivatives, called hedging, leaving them
owing far more metal than they control and
giving them an interest in the price of gold
continuing to fall.

The size of the short position, officially
acknowledged to be more than 5,000 tonnes by
the bullion bank apologists, is thought to be
well over 10,000 tonnes and may exceed 15,000
tonnes, the report adds.

The claims were seized on by fringe groups
such as the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee
which said it showed that mainstream
investors were coming round to their view
that central banks secretly act to keep a lid
on the price of gold in order to support the
dollar.

The establishment in the gold world is
coming around to our central premise, Chris
Powell, secretary of GATA, told his members
last week. Central banks and particularly
the U.S. Treasury Department have been
colluding surreptitiously and desperately to
suppress the gold price and manipulate the
gold market, he added.

The report has caused embarrassment to Royal
Bank as many of its clients and some of the
biggest companies on the Canadian stock
exchanges are gold miners, including Barrick
Gold Corp., the world's second largest
producer, which is also the world's biggest
hedger.

Bank of Novia Scotia is one of the largest
bullion banks in the world and the Canadian
central bank has been a consistent seller of
gold over the past decade. Mark Arthur, head
of Royal Bank Investment Management, issued a
statement saying the report was produced for
internal use and in no way reflects the
views of Royal Bank.

However, the report is by John Embry, a
senior figure at RBC who sets strategy for
the bank's $38 billion in funds under management
and chairs its stock selection committee as well
as running its Royal Precious Metals fund. He
was not available for comment.

Embry predicts in the report that the price
of gold is 

Re: [CTRL] End Times For Israel?

2002-06-30 Thread thew

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Prudy - in 47 there was a 2 state solution in the works.

It was rejected by the Arabs, who started a war - and lost it.

The 2 state solution was not torpedoed by the Israeli's.


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  Recent events in the Middle East leave me wondering whether we're
 witnessing not just the end of the Oslo peace process, but the end of the
 whole idea of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. 

 Hardly.  There never really was an idea of a two-state solution to the
 Israeli-Palestinian conflict.  It was always a myth.   Prudy

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[CTRL] firefighter held in connection with AZ fire

2002-06-30 Thread Samantha L.

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http://www.arizonarepublic.com/news/articles/0630fire-rimfire30.html

Suspect in 'Rodeo' fire held

By Mark Shaffer, Anne Ryman and Chris Fiscus
The Arizona Republic
June 30, 2002 12:00:00

excerpt

A Bureau of Indian Affairs firefighter has been arrested in connection with
starting the Rodeo fire, according to federal sources.

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[CTRL] lanner, house bill, bishops, CSA outcomes, Lindh, Chaney/Iraq, homeland sec.

2002-06-30 Thread Smart News

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SMART issue #45 is now online at
http://members.aol.com/smartnews/Sample-Issue-45.htm
The newsletter has information on child abuse, clergy abuse, cult abuse, mind
control and ritual abuse.




this may be heavy for survivors

from L. Moss-Sharmann
Sexual Abuse Scandal Hits Orthodox Jews  By Alan Cooperman 6/29/02  Freehold,
 N.J. ...a jury of six men and six women here in central New Jersey found
Rabbi Baruch Lanner, 52, guilty of abusing two teenage girlsDuring his
30-year career as a Jewish youth leader, he sexually, physically and
emotionally abused dozens of teenage girls and boys while his colleagues
failed to believe or act on the allegations, according to a stinging internal
investigation by the Orthodox Union.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63807-2002Jun28.html

House Approves Sex Crimes Bill By Janelle Carter Washington (AP) 6/25/02 The
measure would cover a number of sexual offenses, including convictions for
sexual abuse, exploitation of children and sex trafficking of children. H.R.
4679, H.R. 4623, H.R. 4477. Text of bills: http://thomas.loc.gov  from AOL

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/108/story_10820.html
Which bishops have made the worst decisions about abusive priests?  The
very solid and good work that has been accomplished by the majority of
bishops in their dioceses has been completely overshadowed by the imprudent
decisions of a number of bishops during the past ten years, said Bishop
Wilton Gregory...

http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/Research/CSA/csa.html
Association between Childhood Sexual Abuse History and Adverse Psychosocial
Outcomes - Nonclinical studies using rigorous designs that have examined the
relationship between child sexual abuse and psychological harm, after
controlling for Social Environment.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/3531246.htm?template=contentModule/p

rintstory.jsp
Posted on Mon, Jun. 24, 2002   Judge slams terror law; Lindh defense could
gain
BY GREG WINTER New York Times Service

LOS ANGELES - A federal judge has dismissed the Justice Department's case
against seven people accused of funneling charitable donations to an Iranian
military group deemed partly responsible for the 1979 takeover of the U.S.
Embassy in Tehran and still labeled a terrorist threat. After deliberating
for months, Judge Robert M. Takasugi of U.S. District Court in Los Angeles
ruled on Friday that a 1996 law passed by Congress to classify foreign groups
as terrorist organizations is ''unconstitutional on its face,'' and thus
cannot be used as the basis of criminal charges.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.22A.cheney.hussein.htm
Cheney Sees 'Gathering Danger' in Iraq  By Reuters | New York Times
Thursday, 20 June, 2002

DETROIT (Reuters) - Iraqi President Saddam Hussein represents a gathering
danger'' to the United States, Vice President Dick Cheney said on Thursday,
while warning that Washington will act preemptively against threats of
terrorism.  We are greatly concerned about any possible linkup between
terrorists and regimes that have or seek weapons of mass destruction,'' said
Cheney. In the case of Saddam Hussein, we've got a dictator who is clearly
pursuing and already possesses some of these weapons,'' he said.Cheney
Made Millions Off Oil Deals with Hussein  by Martin A. Lee
San Francisco Bay Guardian  November 13, 2000
During former defense secretary Richard Cheney's five-year tenure as chief
executive of Halliburton, Inc., his oil services firm raked in big bucks from
dubious commercial dealings with Iraq. Cheney left Halliburton with a $34
million retirement package last July when he became the GOP's
vice-presidential candidate.  Of course, U.S. firms aren't generally supposed
to do business with Saddam Hussein. But thanks to legal loopholes large
enough to steer an oil tanker through, Halliburton profited big-time from
deals with the Iraqi dictatorship. Conducted discreetly through several
Halliburton subsidiaries in Europe, these greasy transactions helped Saddam
Hussein retain his grip on power while lining the pockets of Cheney and
company.

http://www.aclu.org/action/homeland107.html
 To: ACLU Action Network
FR: Damon Moglen, National Field Coordinator
 June 27, 2002
In the latest threat to civil liberties to emerge from the government's
response to the terrorist attacks of September 11, the Bush Administration's
proposed Department of Homeland Security explicitly removes structural and
legal safeguards necessary to keep the agency open and accountable to the
public. The President's proposal contains provisions that exclude the new
agency from the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and whistleblower
protections. His proposal also lacks guarantees of strong oversight; as
proposed, the agency's secretary will have veto power over the inspector
general's audits and investigations.

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[CTRL] Ruppert

2002-06-30 Thread Michael Pugliese

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http://mckinneysucks.blogspot.com/2002_06_01
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... WhatDIDN'Treallyhappen.com. Devoted to smashing conspiracy
theories
and humiliating their purveyors!

 Monday, June 24, 2002 ::

A flimsy attempt at a snappy rejoinder. A nameless blogger (another
one of those valiant dissidents who's afraid of the Treasury agents
underneath his bed) has tried his hand at refuting my Ruppert
timeline
post below. He has his own conspiracy yarns, including a Vince  Foster
redux, exposing the Cliff Baxter suicide sham.

In any event, his prodding of my timeline focuses on items 3 and 4,
in
which Ruppert first claims the
Unocal pipeline deal failed because the Taliban's price was too high

(in 1997), and that Unocal VP John Maresca testified a year later
that
the deal would not be feasible unless and until a stable Afghan
regime
was in place. Predictably, this mystery blogger does not see the
incongruity here.

but presumably that doesn't necessarily follow. The 1997  negotiations
could have failed over
money, and the Unocal Vice President could also have testified  before
the House that the pipeline would not be built before there was a
stable government in Afghanistan.

I suppose you could make this argument if Afghanistan had slid into
chaos between 1997 and 1998, but the truth of the matter is that the

Taliban continued to consolidate its rule after 1996, and the  country
was certainly more stable (inasmuch as a country living under the
most
brutal, Luddite tyranny the world has seen since the Khmer Rouge can

be called stable) in 1998 than 1997, when Unocal was supposedly
haggling over a price. Prudent entrepreneurs ensure the investment  is
a secure one before they negotiate a price, not after.

The argument then progresses to Unocal's recent press release  stating
that it no longer had any
interest in building the pipeline, which we are to believe is a
case,
I dare say, of protesting too much. Uh-huh. If Unocal had released
it
out of the blue, but what he doesn't tell you is that it was in
response to a report that it was the lead company in the  pipeline's
construction. Protesting too much is something corporations sort  of
have to do from time to time, as they depend of what are called
investors who give special slips of paper called money for their
stock, based on the decisions the corporation makes.

Moron.

But here's the best part of the missive:

Ruppert's strength isn't in any particlar part of the timeline, but
in
the sheer quantity of

suspicious details.

So you see, it doesn't matter if none of Ruppert's weak assumptions,

distortions, logic fallacies, and outright factual errors, hold any
water. The fact that he is able to come up with such a wealth of
idiotic arguments proves him right!

It should also be noted that this despicable pig also notes (again,
in
what is apparently his own yarn)
the fact that only one flag officer - Lt. Gen. Timothy Maude - died
in
the attack as proof that there was foreknowledge, snidely remarking,

I guess he didn't get the memo.

Thanks for reminding me why I devote so much time to humiliating you

people, Mr. Xymphora.
Fucktard.
:: Bill Herbert 9:27 PM [+] ::
...

:: Sunday, June 23, 2002 ::

Mike Ruppert’s bullshit-riddled timeline (Part 1). NOTE: This is the

first in what will be at least a 5-part series refuting Mike
Ruppert’s
conspiratorial timeline point by point. It may grow longer, as
Ruppert continues to add more allegations, in lieu of actually
providing evidence to support his older ones.

David Corn may not have the space to devote to Ruppert’s entire
timeline – which contains most of
his purported evidence of government foreknowledge of, and
complicity in, the 9/11 attacks.

But I do. From the top…

FTW, November 2, 2001 – 1200 PST – On October 31, the French daily  Le
Figaro dropped

a bombshell. While in a Dubai hospital receiving treatment for a
chronic kidney infection last July, Osama bin Laden met with a top
CIA
official - presumably the Chief of Station. The meeting, held in bin

Laden’s private suite, took place at the American hospital in Dubai
at
a time when he was a wanted fugitive for the bombings of two U.S.
embassies and this year’s attack on the U.S.S. Cole. Bin Laden was
eligible for execution according to a 2000 intelligence finding
issued
by President Bill Clinton before leaving office in January. Yet on
July 14th he was allowed to leave Dubai on a private jet and there
were no Navy fighters waiting to force him down.

Now, let’s go back to the October 31 story by Le Figaro – the one
that
has Osama bin Laden
meeting with a CIA officer in Dubai this June.

The story says that, Throughout his stay in the hospital, Osama Bin

Laden received visits
from many family members [There goes the story that he’s a black
sheep!] and Saudi Arabian Emirate personalities of status. During
this
time the local representative of the CIA was seen by many people
taking the elevator and going to bin Laden’s room.


[CTRL] SNET: Has Communism Infiltrated The Federal Government? (fwd)

2002-06-30 Thread William Bacon

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I pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to
the REPUBLIC for which it stands,  one NAtion under God,indivisble,with
liberty and justice for all.
 visit my web site at
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904
for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto:
http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html

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In a message dated 6/30/02 10:29:08 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 Socialism leads to Communism  See chart (toggle down) on this site: A 
HREF=http://dsausa.org/archive/Docs/DTH.html#mike;
 http://dsausa.org/archive/Docs/DTH.html#mike/A

 I have a list of 53 card carrying members of Congress belonging to the DSA.
 with their Congressional addresses, Websites, and email addresses:
 (attached).  Why isn't the FBI checking out these people?

 Is there any reason why everything having to do with God is being removed
 from our society?
 
 Subject: Has Communism Infiltrated The Federal Government?


 Has Communism infiltrated the Federal Government?  You might be surprised!

 The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist
 organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the
 Socialist International.  DSA's members are building progressive movements
 for social change while establishing an openly socialist presence in
 American communities and politics.  Communism is alive and well in America!


 Democracy is indispensable to socialism. - V.I. Lenin

 Democracy is the road to socialism. - Karl Marx

 The goal of socialism is communism. - V.I. Lenin

 The Progressive Caucus of the US House of Representatives is made up of
 more than 50 members of the House.  The Caucus works to advance economic
 and social justice through sponsoring legislation that reflects its
 purpose.  The Caucus also works with a coalition of organizations, called
 the Progressive Challenge, to bring new life to the progressive voice in
 US politics.

 The last report I was able to retrieve on members names from the DSA's web
 site in April 1999  included the following members of Congress.
 Rep. Earl Hilliard (AL-07), Rep. Eni Faleomavaega (AS-AL), Rep. Ed Pastor
 (AZ-02),
 Rep. Lynn C. Woolsey (CA-06), Rep. George Miller (CA-07), Rep. Nancy
 Pelosi (CA-08),
 Rep. Fortney Pete Stark (CA-13), Rep. Henry A. Waxman (CA-29),
 Rep Julian C. Dixon (CA-32), Rep. Xavier Becerra (CA-30),
 Rep. Esteban Edward Torres (CA-34), Rep. Maxine Waters (CA-35),
 Rep. George E. Brown (CA-42), Rep. Bob Filner (CA-50), Rep. Diane DeGette
 (CO-01),
 Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC-AL), Rep. Corrine Brown (FL-03),
 Rep. Carrie P. Meek (FL-17), Rep. Alcee L. Hastings (FL-23),
 Rep. Cynthia A. Mckinney (GA-04), Rep. John Lewis (GA-05), Rep. Neil
 Abercrombie (HI-02)
 Rep. Patsy Mink (HI-02), Rep. Jesse Jackson (IL-02), Rep. Luis Gutierrez
 (IL-04),
 Rep. Danny Davis (IL-07), Rep. Lane Evans (IL-17), Rep. Julia Carson
 (IN-10),
 Rep. John Olver (MA-01), Rep. Jim McGovern (MA-03), Rep Barney Frank
 (MA-04),
 Rep. John Tierney (MA-06), Rep. David Bonior (MI-10), Rep. Lynn N. Rivers
 (MI-13),
 Rep. John Conyers (MI-14), Rep. Bennie G. Thompson (MS-02), Rep. Melvin L.
 Watt (NC-12),
 Rep. Donald Payne (NJ-10), Rep. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08), Rep. Major Owens
 (NY-12),
 Rep. Nydia M. Velazquez (NY-12), Rep. Charles Rangel (NY -16), Rep. Jose
 E. Serrano (NY-16), Rep. Maurice Hinchey (NY-26), Rep. John LaFalce
 (NY-29), Rep. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09),
 Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10), Rep. Stephanie- Tubbs-Jones (OH-11),
 Rep. Sherrod Brown (OH-13), Rep. Elizabeth Furse (OR-01), Rep. Peter A.
 DeFazio (OR-04),
 Rep. Chaka Fattah (PA-02), Rep. William Coyne (PA-14), Rep. Carlos A
 Romero-Barcelo (PR-AL), Rep. Robert C. Scott (VA-03), Rep. Bernard Sanders
 (VT-AL), and Rep. James A. McDermott (WA-07)


 Check Out A 
HREF=http://dsausa.org/archive/Lit/Harr1.html;http://dsausa.org/archive/Lit/Harr1.html/A
 or read below.

 WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

 Beaver Cole


 A HREF=http://dsausa.org/index.html; DSA Home Page/A | A 
HREF=http://dsausa.org/archive/Lit/*Lit.html;Other DSA Literature/A | A 
HREF=http://dsausa.org/archive/Links/Global.html;Globalist Links/A



 Socialism Informs The Best of our Politics

 A HREF=http://dsausa.org/archive/Docs/DTH.html#mike;by Michael Harrington/A
 Is socialism relevant to the late 20th and 21st centuries? And if so what
 does one mean by socialism? In any case, why identify as a socialist in
 the United States where the very word invites misunderstanding at best,
 and a frantic, ignorant rejection at worst? Finally, given all of these
 problems why build a socialist organization in this country?
 First, the socialist critique of power under both capitalism and communism
 is not only 

Re: [CTRL] lanner, house bill, bishops, CSA outcomes, Lindh, Chaney/Iraq, homeland sec.

2002-06-30 Thread thew

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Lets just eradicate religion and be done with all this nonsense

on 6/30/02 2:53 PM, Smart News at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 SMART issue #45 is now online at
 http://members.aol.com/smartnews/Sample-Issue-45.htm
 The newsletter has information on child abuse, clergy abuse, cult abuse, mind
 control and ritual abuse.




 this may be heavy for survivors

 from L. Moss-Sharmann
 Sexual Abuse Scandal Hits Orthodox Jews  By Alan Cooperman 6/29/02  Freehold,
 N.J. ...a jury of six men and six women here in central New Jersey found
 Rabbi Baruch Lanner, 52, guilty of abusing two teenage girlsDuring his
 30-year career as a Jewish youth leader, he sexually, physically and
 emotionally abused dozens of teenage girls and boys while his colleagues
 failed to believe or act on the allegations, according to a stinging internal
 investigation by the Orthodox Union.
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63807-2002Jun28.html

 House Approves Sex Crimes Bill By Janelle Carter Washington (AP) 6/25/02 The
 measure would cover a number of sexual offenses, including convictions for
 sexual abuse, exploitation of children and sex trafficking of children. H.R.
 4679, H.R. 4623, H.R. 4477. Text of bills: http://thomas.loc.gov  from AOL

 http://www.beliefnet.com/story/108/story_10820.html
 Which bishops have made the worst decisions about abusive priests?  The
 very solid and good work that has been accomplished by the majority of
 bishops in their dioceses has been completely overshadowed by the imprudent
 decisions of a number of bishops during the past ten years, said Bishop
 Wilton Gregory...

 http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/Research/CSA/csa.html
 Association between Childhood Sexual Abuse History and Adverse Psychosocial
 Outcomes - Nonclinical studies using rigorous designs that have examined the
 relationship between child sexual abuse and psychological harm, after
 controlling for Social Environment.

 http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/3531246.htm?template=contentModule/p

 rintstory.jsp
 Posted on Mon, Jun. 24, 2002   Judge slams terror law; Lindh defense could
 gain
 BY GREG WINTER New York Times Service

 LOS ANGELES - A federal judge has dismissed the Justice Department's case
 against seven people accused of funneling charitable donations to an Iranian
 military group deemed partly responsible for the 1979 takeover of the U.S.
 Embassy in Tehran and still labeled a terrorist threat. After deliberating
 for months, Judge Robert M. Takasugi of U.S. District Court in Los Angeles
 ruled on Friday that a 1996 law passed by Congress to classify foreign groups
 as terrorist organizations is ''unconstitutional on its face,'' and thus
 cannot be used as the basis of criminal charges.

 http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.22A.cheney.hussein.htm
 Cheney Sees 'Gathering Danger' in Iraq  By Reuters | New York Times
 Thursday, 20 June, 2002

 DETROIT (Reuters) - Iraqi President Saddam Hussein represents a gathering
 danger'' to the United States, Vice President Dick Cheney said on Thursday,
 while warning that Washington will act preemptively against threats of
 terrorism.  We are greatly concerned about any possible linkup between
 terrorists and regimes that have or seek weapons of mass destruction,'' said
 Cheney. In the case of Saddam Hussein, we've got a dictator who is clearly
 pursuing and already possesses some of these weapons,'' he said.Cheney
 Made Millions Off Oil Deals with Hussein  by Martin A. Lee
 San Francisco Bay Guardian  November 13, 2000
 During former defense secretary Richard Cheney's five-year tenure as chief
 executive of Halliburton, Inc., his oil services firm raked in big bucks from
 dubious commercial dealings with Iraq. Cheney left Halliburton with a $34
 million retirement package last July when he became the GOP's
 vice-presidential candidate.  Of course, U.S. firms aren't generally supposed
 to do business with Saddam Hussein. But thanks to legal loopholes large
 enough to steer an oil tanker through, Halliburton profited big-time from
 deals with the Iraqi dictatorship. Conducted discreetly through several
 Halliburton subsidiaries in Europe, these greasy transactions helped Saddam
 Hussein retain his grip on power while lining the pockets of Cheney and
 company.

 http://www.aclu.org/action/homeland107.html
 To: ACLU Action Network
 FR: Damon Moglen, National Field Coordinator
 June 27, 2002
 In the latest threat to civil liberties to emerge from the government's
 response to the terrorist attacks of September 11, the Bush Administration's
 proposed Department of Homeland Security explicitly removes structural and
 legal safeguards necessary to keep the agency open and accountable to the
 public. The President's proposal contains provisions that exclude the new
 agency from the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and whistleblower
 protections. His proposal also lacks guarantees of strong oversight; as
 proposed, the agency's 

[CTRL] A Dog's-Eye View of the Recession

2002-06-30 Thread Joshua Tinnin

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http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/07.01A.pitt.dogs.eye.htm

A Dog's-Eye View of the Recession
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Opinion

Sunday, 30 June, 2002

In order to make a few extra dollars during this summer gap between teaching
high school, I applied for and nailed down a job at a well-known store. The
store, which I won't name for obvious reasons, is part of a large chain that
covers pretty much the whole country. They sell a variety of items: clothes,
books, videos, high-tech gadgets and the like. If I named the place, you'd
know it.

After a few shifts, I am stunned I got the job in the first place. I have
worked there on several different days for a good number of hours now, and
in all that time I have served exactly three people. Plenty come in to
browse, and to take advantage of the air conditioning, but no one is buying
anything. I've had conversations with the register jockeys at neighboring
stores - we're all located in a popular tourist zone/shopping district - and
they are singing the same tune. The wallets are not coming out.

A year ago, I am told by my manager, the store was positively booming. They
did not have enough people to handle the customer volume. Now, the home
office sends daily memos to the store cajoling the sales associates to throw
a full-court-press at everyone who comes through the door. Sell anything you
can, we are told, and squeeze out every dollar possible. They set daily
sales goals that are missed by thousands of dollars. These goals are based
upon last year's sales totals. By my calculations, the place is experiencing
a factor-of-ten decrease in revenue. Why they hired me is a mystery. They
don't need me, and my meager salary is further cutting into their profits.

I have gotten myself a dog's eye view of this recession: A ground-level
perspective on the spending habits of very average Americans. People are
completely unwilling to part with their money right now. This is a cancer of
the most elemental economic kind that goes by the moniker of consumer
confidence. From my dog's-eye view behind the register, there is no
confidence out there at all.

The political observer in me wants to believe all this is happening because
of the disastrous stories of Enron, WorldCom, Tyco, Arthur Andersen and the
rest. The fear that every single share of stock on Wall Street has been
polluted and corrupted by lies and shady profit reporting cast a dark shadow
across the economy. Even the good stocks - and there are plenty of them -
are burdened by a sense of total mistrust.

Strangely enough, the political observer in me has to take into account that
most of the people I've questioned about these companies know very little
about the scurrilous details of their dirty dealings. It is almost as if all
these tales of fraud and deceit are taking place in an alternate dimension.
Most people seem bored by the dry facts behind these stories, and have not
bothered to inform themselves on them to any great degree.

Why is it, then, that my hours as a retail sales associate have been spent
watching people absolutely refuse to buy anything? Something seems amiss.

Maybe consumers, like the prey they are, have begun to smell danger on the
wind. There is more to consumer confidence, after all, than the desire to by
doodads at some store. A recent Zogby poll indicates that Bush is enjoying a
69% approval rating, but only 51% of the people questioned would vote for
him in 2004. The margin of error for that last number puts Mr. Bush right
back where he was on November 7, 2000. The 18 point gap between those
numbers suggest that the populace is not entirely comfortable with the guy
in charge.

Another recent poll stated bluntly that some 46% of Americans don't think
Bush is in charge of anything beyond deciding what kind of sandwich meat to
have for lunch. These people believe he is controlled entirely by the
corporate interests that funded his campaign. This takes us back around the
bend to Enron and WorldCom. Even the catastrophically uninformed know that
Bush was tight with Enron's CEO, Kenneth Lay, to the point that Lay and
other Enron executives basically wrote Bush's energy policy proposal. The
WorldCom scandal will soon revolve politically around Senator Trent Lott of
Mississippi, home state of that dying telcom corporation.

Still, this big-business fraud stuff is vague for most people. Much of
America hadn't heard of Enron or WorldCom before these revelations, and
don't seem prone to getting worked up about it. It's like hearing about
dirty dealings by strangers - you're disgusted by the behavior, but you're
also pretty quick to turn the page and check the box scores.

That is why, from my dog's-eye perspective, this whole insider trading flap
surrounding Martha Stewart could be the straw that breaks the economic
camel's back. Martha made hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars a
year selling her goods through K-Mart. Her TV show and magazine made her
Queen 

[CTRL] Roosevelt ordered surveillance of Windsors

2002-06-30 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/monarchy/story/0,2763,746326,00.html



Roosevelt ordered surveillance of Windsors 

Rob Evans and David Hencke
Saturday June 29, 2002
The Guardian 

President Roosevelt personally ordered covert surveillance on the Duke and Duchess of Windsor during the second world war after receiving intelligence that the duchess had been passing secrets to a top Nazi with whom she was alleged to have had a tempestous affair, according to documents released to the Guardian by the FBI. 

The damning dossier - released for the first time by the intelligence agency - shows that the main reason why the Americans thought the abdication of Edward VIII had taken place in 1936 was because the duchess fervently supported the Nazi regime and this was totally unacceptable to the then Conservative prime minister, Stanley Baldwin. The official view has always been that he abdicated to marry the person he loved but could not stay on the throne because she was a divorcee. 

The papers show that the FBI was told by a minor German royal that Wallis Simpson was having an affair with Joachim von Ribbentrop, who was then German ambassador to Britain, while she was seeing the Duke of Windsor. 

The minor royal, Duke Charles Alexander of Wurttemberg, who later became a Franciscan monk, said that "he knew definitely that von Ribbentrop, while in England, sent the then Wallis Simpson 17 carnations every day. The 17 supposedly represented the number of times they had slept together." 

Later the FBI reported that while in exile in France, the duchess was in regular contact with von Ribbentrop, then promoted by Hitler to foreign minister, and was leaking secrets to him. They were then exiled again to the Bahamas. 

The US intelligence operation began in 1941 when the couple came over from the Bahamas to spend a long weekend in Palm Beach, Florida, and were tailed by a FBI agent who had to fool both the Windsors and the US secret service on the orders of President Roosevelt. The FBI also reported that the duke was intoxicated and incapable for much of the time at the beginning of the war. 

The papers also contain reports from a party in Paris that the duchess told guests that the duke was impotent and she was the only person who could satisfy his sexual desires. 

The documents fuel the long-running controversy over allegations that the disloyal pair secretly admired fascism and that he was lined up to return to the throne if Hitler had conquered Britain. 

The FBI first refused to release the documents to the Guardian but the paper appealed against the decision, and as a result 227 new pages - including intelligence reports of the operation and interviews with informants - have been disclosed. 

The release comes at a sensitive time as the British public record office has not yet released similar documents which cover this period in deference to the sensibilities of the late Queen Mother. 





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[CTRL] MicroSoft Palladium protects IT vendors, not you - paper

2002-06-30 Thread RoadsEnd

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25940.html
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MS Palladium protects IT vendors, not you - paper
By John Lettice
Posted: 28/06/2002 at 10:27 GMT

Ross Anderson of Cambridge University has published a lengthy and informative
paper/FAQ on Palladium, the Trusted Computing Platform Alliance (TCPA), their
relationship and their implications. His take is that Microsoft's Palladium,
soft-announced by the company earlier this week, will be built on TCPA
hardware, adding some extra features as it goes along. Some of these
features, he notes, will the there in order to make the package look more
attractive, while some of the components of Palladium are already shipping in
Xbox and WinXP.

TCPA itself provides for a monitoring component to be included in future PCs.
In phase one Anderson expects it to be an add-on chip on the motherboard, but
further down the line it will be in the CPU. It's more crackable as an
add-on, as you could conceivably get around it by monitoring bus traffic, but
once it's in the CPU this becomes a lot harder, and he speculates about the
likely effects in the event of TCPA/Palladium being to all intents and
purposes uncrackable.

Aside from providing the music business with workable DRM, it would also
allow software companies to lock in their users. The more
Palladium/TCPA-enabled apps there are, the more this will be the case, and it
will also have the tendency to favour existing players while locking out new
entrants.

Anderson refers to the chip as the Fritz chip, after senator Fritz Hollings
who has been working tirelessly to make TCPA compulsory. On boot, Fritz
checks that the boot ROM is as expected, executes it, measures the state of
the machine; then checks the first part of the operating system, loads and
executes it, checks the state of the machine; and so on. The trust boundary,
of hardware and software considered to be known and verified, is steadily
expanded. A table is maintained of the hardware (audio card, video card etc)
and the software (O/S, drivers, etc); if there are significant changes, the
machine must be re- certified. The result is a PC booted into a known state
with an approved combination of hardware and software. Control is then handed
over to enforcement software in the operating system - this is presumably
Palladium if your operating system in Windows.

Note the similarities here to what Xbox is doing already.

Once the machine is in this state, Fritz can certify it to third parties:
for example, he will do an authentication protocol with Disney to prove that
his machine is a suitable recipient of 'Snow White'. The Disney server then
sends encrypted data, with a key that Fritz will use to unseal it. Fritz
makes the key available only so long as the environment remains
'trustworthy'. For this purpose, 'trustworthy' means that the media player
application won't make any unauthorised copies of content.

That's an example of the sort of procedure you'd encounter when the system is
applied to the entertainment business. However, TCPA-enabled applications
will likely have their security policies administered by remote servers, and
this has other implications. What you're allowed to read could be censored
for reasons other than copyright, so for example the scientologists might
convince a court that a certain document should be banned [and] get an order
against a policy server. So to what extent could unpalatable and leaked
documents be banned or disappeared?

It will be possible to turn TCPA off, but if it achieves critical mass then
this will mean you don't have access to TCPA-enabled applications, which may
isolate you a tad. If the applications that use TCPA / Palladium are more
attractive to the majority of people, you may end up simply having to use
them - just as many people have to use Microsoft Word because all their
friends and colleagues send them documents in Microsoft Word.

Anderson elaborates this, based on how this control has been used in the
past:

TCPA appears designed to maximise the effect, and thus the economic power,
of such plays. Given Microsoft's record of competitive strategic plays, I
expect that Palladium will support them. So if you control a TCPA-enabled
application, then your policy server can enforce your choice of rules about
which other applications will be allowed to use the files your code creates.
These files can be protected using strong cryptography, with keys controlled
by the Fritz chips on everybody's machines. What this means is that a s
uccessful TCPA-enabled application will be worth much more money to the
software company that controls it, as they can rent out access to their
interfaces for whatever the market will bear. So there will be huge pressures
on software developers to enable their applications for TCPA; and if
Palladium is the first operating system to support TCPA, this will give it a
competitive advantage over GNU/Linux and MacOS with the developer community.

The most significant 

[CTRL] MicroSoft security patch EULA gives Billg admin privileges on your box

2002-06-30 Thread RoadsEnd

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25956.html
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MS security patch EULA gives Billg admin privileges on your box
By Thomas C Greene in Washington
Posted: 30/06/2002 at 05:56 GMT

If you caught our recent coverage of the Windows Media Player trio of
security holes you may have followed a link to the TechNet download site for
a patch, or you might have activated Windows Update. If you did the former
(though, oddly, not if you did the latter), you would have been confronted
with an End User License Agreement (EULA) stating, most ominously, that:

You agree that in order to protect the integrity of content and software
protected by digital rights management ('Secure Content'), Microsoft may
provide security related updates to the OS Components that will be
automatically downloaded onto your computer. These security related updates
may disable your ability to copy and/or play Secure Content and use other
software on your computer. If we provide such a security update, we will use
reasonable efforts to post notices on a web site explaining the update.

Reasonable efforts to post notices somewhere on the Web. I think it's clear
from the wording that MS has absolutely no intention of bringing this
behavior to our attention.

Instead, Microsoft has just assumed the right to attack your computer and
surreptitiously install code of its choosing. You will not be warned; you
will not be offered an opportunity examine the download or refuse it. MS will
simply connect remotely and install what it will, or install it secretly when
you contact them.

This means MS will have administrator privileges on your personal computer.
What they feed you may be infected with viruses; it may break your
applications, corrupt data files, destroy weeks or months or even years of
work, but you'll have no recourse if it does. By downloading this WMP
critical security patch, which you must do to operate WMP safely, you'll
agree to give Billg deed and title to your personal property and to leave
Microsoft immune from legal retaliation if they damage your machine.

The pusillanimity of wrapping what amounts to a digital land-grant into a
needed, critical security patch is matched only by the arrogance of assuming
that Windows is now such a fundamental linchpin of a human life worth living
that no retaliation in the courts or at the retail counters is conceivable.
(And that's not to mention 'informal' retaliation by outraged IP warriors,
which we fully expect to see.)

We've heard the Billg rubbish about Trustworthy Computing until we're sick to
death of the trivial incantation. Ironically, Microsoft has just taken steps
to make the Internet immensely more untrustworthy than it already is. When we
know that arbitrary code will be secretely installed on our connected boxes
by software vendors who are not accountable for the damage they may do, any
issue of trust is obliterated.

May I suggest my (personally) favorite solution to that problem? ®



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   From the socialist journal, New Politics.
Michael Pugliese

http://www.wpunj.edu/newpol/issue31/johnso31.htm

The Cultural Cold War: Faust Not the Pied Piper

Alan Johnson

[from New Politics, vol. 8, no. 3 (new series),
whole no. 31, Summer 2001]

ALAN JOHNSON is a reader in the Center for Studies in the Social
Sciences, Edge Hill of Higher Education, England. He is writing a
biography of Hal Draper and is a member of the NEW POLITICS editorial
board.



I got hold of Sartre and asked him: What would you say if in certain
circumstances you were imprisoned in a city where there was a
Communist government, and I, knowing you were innocent, started a
campaign against the communists on your account? Ah, said Sartre,
that is an extremely difficult question. It all depends. But it is
just possible that I in my prison might nevertheless think it better
that I should be condemned than that my case should be made the
occasion for an accusation against the cause which in the long run is
that of the proletariat. I said: It seems to me that the only good
cause has always been that of one person unjustly imprisoned --
whether this has resulted in habeas corpus or a furious campaign
conducted by Voltaire in pamphlets. Sartre: That's the whole drama.
That perhaps we live in a situation in which the injustice against one
person no longer seems to apply.

(extract from the journal of Stephen Spender, March 30, 1956, inThe
Thirties and After: Poetry, Politics, People 1933-75)

At certain times and in respects to certain crucial issues, instead of
saying neither- nor and looking for viable alternatives, we must
recognize an either- or and take one stand or the other.

(Sidney Hook, Out of Step. An Unquiet Life in the 20th Century)



IN THE COLD WAR PROGRESSIVE POLITICS WERE DESTROYED because much of
the left entered one or other Faustian pact of the mind. Two lefts
took the view that the times or the situation dictated their
temporary, knowing, intellectual and practical subordination to state
power in Russia or the United States. The result was that both ended
up no sort of left at all. Both, like Goethe's Faust, lost their
souls. Both discovered that state power, like Mephistopheles, strikes
a hard bargain: The Devil is an egoist/And is not apt, without a why
or a wherefore/'For God's sake', others to assist.

The first left stretched well beyond card- carrying Communists. It
developed, as William Phillips has put it, a Stalinist Unconscious.
Viewing anti-Stalinism as quixotic or, worse, objectively pro-
Imperialist, this left broke the bonds between reason, socialism,
liberty, and democracy and put power-worship, lesser-evilism and
sophistry in their place. Unable to rouse itself to oppose widespread
slave labor and political murder in its camp it could be moved to
paroxysms of anger by the fate of the Rosenbergs or the fact that the
Congress of Cultural Freedom received some of its money from the
Central Intelligence Agency. Paul Sweezy, editor of Monthly Review,
wrote The restrictions of liberty which are characteristic of Soviet
Russia [i.e. torture, mass judicial murder, slave labor camps --AJ]
are far less symptomatic of the time than the crisis of liberty in the
United States.1 This left -- its ranks swelled by the Maoists of the
New Left -- has not gone away. Its mental habits (in particular
campism, i.e. the disastrous idea that my enemy's enemy is my
friend) its sensibility (power-worship, pseudo-realism, arm- chair
militarism) and its poverty-stricken idea of what socialism is (Sweezy
famously defined socialism as a system which disallows private
property) are largely intact and morphing into 

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 Is there any reason why everything having to do with God is being removed
 from our society?

Because it's time we weaned ourselves from infantile fairy tales. Took
responsibility for our world, and generally got on with it?


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The police aren't here to create disorder, they are here to preserve
disorder.


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[CTRL] Are we at war with China?

2002-06-30 Thread brother smiley

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I think that when we are sleeping or otherwise abosrbped mentally that our
organic CPU is still engaged in computation and sorting of information,
driven by the need to make sense of the world.  Last year I lived in Santa
Rosa, California up until late September.  It was here that about two thirds
of the experiences I have detailed, the psychological operations aimed at
de-stabilization, occurred.  It is here that I had methamphetamine offered
to me unceasingly.  I was homeless due to the fact that A) I had left
Michigan to keep from jeopardizing my family and friends during the height
of the Jam Echelon Day campaign due to cryptic threats and B) I had been
denied, somehow, every opportunity to make a better situation for myself.
It is also here that I was offered heroin regularly.  As I go on here you
will see how this is key.

It was in Santa Rosa wherein the person I eventually fled, the girl who was
obviously assigned to me for about a year and a half, was at the center of
attempts to shove certain memes (paradigms) down my throat.  One of those
was a reverence for the now popular dragon iconography you are seeing about.
  I must caution against assuming that anyone bearing such, be it on a
t-shirt or a tattoo, is in cahoots with what I am leading into.

It was in Santa Rosa that I had a very disturbing dream and this is the gist
of what I was circumlocuting in the first sentence of this text.  I do not
have dreams like this and I did not even during the height of my psyop
induced angst, except for this once.  I submit that my unconscious was
speaking the only language it knows how to transmit to the conscious mind,
the language of the mythic, of dreams, of symbolism.  I believe my
unconscious had pieced together something that my conscious mind was only
vaguely aware of, in its endless computations.  I believe this is the nature
of prophecy and I believe we are all prophets at times.

My dream was of billowy Arabian tents, of a dragon, and of much blood.  The
words “The dragon has shed its spines and gone undergound” echoed for months
in my head.  We had gone from the year of the dragon into the year of the
snake.  I am sorry that it was not more specific.  It bothered me all night
and I hardly slept.  This was June, 2001.  In case you are wondering, I am
NOT making this up.

See:

How do you recruit a person to rain terror, death and destruction on people
they do not even know? Do you look for someone who is already evil?

No. You use bait. The best bait is information that can easily be accepted
as true and may, from a certain perspective, in fact be true.

http://www.factnet.org/letters/FACTNewsOctober2001.html

~

Now what the hell does this have to do with anything?
I was driven to relay the story above by what I believe is a revelation of
sorts that I had today.

FACT: China bought four hundred million dollars worth of the very 757's that
struck the World Trade Center.  Someone needs to explain to me why this was
done if these jets had just been shown to be vulnerable.

Boeing signs huge China deal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1574000/1574486.stm

FACT: The international cabals we have been often speaking of (or CLUBS if
you prefer) always seem to cross paths with Henry Kissinger.

FACT: Last year, in the spring, Kissinger and his CFR buddies presented
China with what was allegedly new incriminating evidence regarding the
Tiennamen square incident years ago.

You've heard a lot of mixed info on Lyndon LaRouche for sure.  This is
because his research department is phenomenal but his conclusions as to what
to do about he world he paints with an accurate brush are questionable.  It
IS he that reports this information.  Here is the url.  Take it in context
with the following two items.
http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2001/2803_cfr.html

FACT: Kissinger now sits as top advisor to a huge Chines oil firm.  What
does TOP advisor exactly mean unless he is calling the shots.
http://www.cnooc.com.cn/english/news/news_detail.asp?idnews=352

FACT: THIS happened on September 6, 2001:
Chinese authorities shut down an outspoken Internet bulletin board last
week after students posted messages about the 1989 Tiananmen Square
massacre, officials announced yesterday.
http://www.dfn.org/focus/china/baiyun.htm

also see:
Hu Jintao was the democracy advocate for Tianamen Square who was
arrested. I put that in quotation marks because the student's demonstrating
were not demonstrating about democracy per se. They were medical student's
protesting the US pharmaceutical complex experimenting on Chinese citzens
and organ harvesting.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/9815

FACT: Soon after September 11, President Bush embarked on a rather
extensive trip to China, the details of which managed to not be disclosed.

FACT: Jiang Zemin’s personal jet was reported as being heavily bugged some
months ago and they accused the U.S.  If 

[CTRL] A TIME FOR DISSENT IN AMERICA

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=123ncid=742e=10u=/020630/79
/1rtsk.html


A TIME FOR DISSENT IN AMERICA
Sat Jun 29, 9:01 PM ET

By Richard Reeves

WASHINGTON -- The presidency seems to be going to George Bush's head. With
each morning's paper or evening's news, depending on your preference, our
leader is jumping up and saying truly extraordinary things, some of them
preposterous, some stupid, some terrifying.

Ariel Sharon ( news - web sites), he says, is a man of peace. I must have
missed something. If Yasser Arafat ( news - web sites), that other sometimes
man of peace, wins an election, the election doesn't count. Nothing counts
unless we like it. We are now in the first-strike business, ready to launch
pre-emptive or preventive strikes against countries or groups judged hostile
to our interests by someone at Central Intelligence or the Republican
National Committee ( news - web sites).

Frankly, I prefer what a bit more experienced Republican president, Dwight
Eisenhower, said on that subject in 1954: Preventative war ... I don't
believe in such a thing, and frankly I wouldn't even listen seriously to
anyone that came in and talked about such a thing.


Ah, what did he know? Now, the United States can do anything it wants, right?
World's only superpower and all that. We define morality now. We decide who's
naughty and who's nice. The Saudi royal family, there's a good bunch, even if
they are the greatest exporters of terrorism in the world, getting out of
their country and into Afghanistan ( news - web sites), Chechnya ( news - web
sites), Kashmir ( news - web sites) and lower Manhattan.

We are, since Sept. 11, a nation without dissent -- and a little weak on
common sense, too. If the president says it, it must be true. Whether you
agree with his pronouncements or not, you are supposed to keep your mouth
shut in the name of patriotism and solidarity. Among other things, you have
to pretend we actually have the capability to do what we say we're going to
do to the axis of evil or anyone else, including corporate America, who gets
bad numbers in Republicans' polls.

Having said that, I was pleasantly surprised to see that Foreign Policy
magazine, hardly a hotbed of anti-establishment thinking, in its July-August
edition has a cover story titled The Incredible Shrinking Eagle: The End of
Pax Americana, a harsh left-wing analysis asserting that the United States'
best days are behind us. I would disagree with that, but I am impressed that
someone out there has a clear enough head to point out that with all our big
talk, the United States has fought three wars since 1950 and has lost one and
tied two. The author, Immanuel Wallerstein, a roving intellectual now a
senior research scholar at Yale, counts Vietnam as a defeat, and Korea and
Iraq as draws.

One of the most influential scholars of the American left, say the
magazine's editors in what appears to be a bit of nervousness. He argues
that the victory over the Taliban is just another milestone in a gradual U.S.
decline that began in the 1970s with defeat in Vietnam. ... More damningly,
he accuses the most aggressive proponents of U.S. power of actually hastening
the collapse of the American empire, thanks to military outreach that has
busted the U.S. economy and a global backlash against American arrogance that
has left the United States increasingly isolated.

Unexamined triumphalism is Foreign Policy's justification for printing the
kind of questioning and skepticism that has been lost in larger journals and
electronic news -- to say nothing of the president's head. The Powerless
Superpower is one of the subheads in the Wallerstein article. We look best,
he declares, when we attack countries without armies, triumphing in Panama
and Grenada. In the Balkans and the Middle East alike, he argues, the
United States has failed to exert its hegemonic clout effectively, not for
want of will or effort, but for want of real power.

President Bush ( news - web sites) does not seem to understand that. He is
making threats and promises he cannot deliver on, because the only way to
control cantankerous little countries with their own history is by
occupation. So it is ridiculous for Bush to say, The outcome is certain.
And the prospects for the future are not helped by threats such as, You are
either for us or against us.

The truth is, most countries, with Israel and Saudi Arabia as examples, are
not with us; they are paying lip-service waiting to see whether and where we
succeed. They are -- surprise -- for themselves. This is heresy in mobilizing
Washington, but in fact, more argument, more dissent would be a great help to
Bush. He is talking nonsense a good deal of the time, dangerous nonsense if
he means it, and it is past time to talk openly about that.



In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace
and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation
plunged into war, recession 

[CTRL] in northern Iraq from Jordan

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[CTRL] Why we should be worried

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29jun02

THE world outside the US is now getting used to the fact Americans have a
fraudulently elected nitwit as their president, but George W. Bush excelled himself
this week with a long-awaited definitive speech on Middle East policies that
stretched even the weirdest imaginations. BRUCE WILSON in London reports:

US embassies around the world moved to explain the batty future Bush saw for
Israel and Palestine, but nothing could disguise that the bedbug was running the
White House and anything could happen next.

Hey, look. Even Tom Cruise is worried. In London this week he said he wanted his
adopted kids brought up outside the USA because of what happens inside the USA.
He listed terrorism and street crime, but very cogently he listed corporate crime as a
reason not to bring up kids in the old US of A.

Now, Tom Cruise is not a Grade A rocket scientist. In fact, he is a Grade A
Scientologist. On the whole, though, I would say he was brighter than George W.
Bush (along with my neighbour's catatonic cat) and it was most intriguing that he
named corporate crime as a reason not to want to grow up in America.

The WorldCom affair comes after the Enron affair while the Andersen affair simply
defies belief. It has become perfectly clear that major US corporations have been
running out of control, throwing billions of dollars into a kind of international 
financial
black hole.

In vain you ask (as I tried to do), well, where has the money gone? I mean, if you
back a loser at Randwick, then you know where your money went. If these
companies have lost billions – $US3.8 billion in the case of WorldCom – why hasn't
somebody won it? Or got it? Where has it gone? Or, more to the point, did it ever
exist?

Of course it did, said the Doormouse. Otherwise, it could never have been lost and
17,000 people sacked for the lack of it. This is Alice in Wonderland stuff, capitalism
rattling around like a high- velocity round in a mental vacuum. Where was
government? Where was control?

Twenty years ago, when I lived in Washington, the US was said to have a trillion-
dollar-a-day economy that was so strong not even government could screw it. Now,
you have to ask if things have turned, that apparent fraudsters like WorldCom can
screw government.

Dubya Bush seems reluctant to address these issues. He is a Texan (although not
by breeding) and there they let things take their course, execute mentally deficient
minors, and generally behave like good old boys, taking the Chevy to the levee.

If it were not for September 11, Bush would be in serious political trouble in
America. He may be yet, in the mid-term November elections. His shocked nation
rallied around him as the personification of The Flag when the atrocities stunned us
all. His personal rating broke all records.

Since then, though, what? On this side of the Atlantic he is seen as a kind of
strange joke. Britons try to understand him, but in Europe they simply think of him
as a sort of circus act. The Middle East pronouncement was so absurd they didn't
know whether to laugh or simply ask the US senior political attache over for a
commiserating drink.

These concerns are based on the belief – that seems to be proven – that
Washington itself is a divided city. Colin Powell, in State, is trying to plead reason
over the clamouring voices in Defence, led by Donald Rumsfeld, clearly a man not
always entirely in control of his senses.

Bush is listening to Rumsfeld, and other strange voices – not least the Israeli Prime
Minister, Ariel Sharon. And, as he does, the US looks more and more to be a long
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[CTRL] Kosovaria: Round ?

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Kosovo threatens to ignite fresh Balkan conflict

By Tony Robson
1 July 2002

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The Kosovo Provisional Assembly has passed a declaration challenging the Border
Delineation Agreement signed in February 2001 and establishing an internationally
recognised border between Yugoslavia and the Republic of Macedonia. This
agreement came after years of negotiations between the governments in Belgrade
and Skopje.

Ethnic Albanian paramilitaries, however, never recognised the February agreement
and instigated a violent campaign against the Macedonian army and border police.
The five-month conflict left hundreds of ethnic Albanians and Macedonians dead
and tens of thousands homeless.

The paramilitaries involved were members of the National Liberation Army (NLA),
an off-shot of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA). The NLA and another splinter
group, the ANA, have regularly flouted a cease fire signed last August. The
resolution passed by the government in Pristina could prompt the fighting to flare up
into full-scale war.

This development has gone largely unreported in the Western mass media because
it has been instigated by the KLA, which has functioned, even before NATO’s 1999
war against Serbia, as a puppet of the United States.

NATO and UN representatives in Kosovo have denied that the KLA has exported its
war to the neighbouring Republic of Macedonia to further its goal of establishing a
Greater Kosovo. The declaration of the Kosovo Provisional Assembly would
suggest otherwise.

The establishment of the Kosovo Provisional Assembly and the elections last
November were hailed as a cornerstone for future Balkan stability and a victory for
political moderation. The parameters of the new governing body were set down by
the United Nations Security Council Resolution (UNSCR) 1244. This allowed for
greater autonomy within the boundaries of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
(FRY). Kosovo remained a Western protectorate with the UN having the last word
on the final status of the province. But ethnic Albanian parties guaranteed a majority
in the governing body have instead contrived to use the assembly as a vehicle to
aggressively assert their claim for independent statehood.

The assembly passed a declaration on May 23, refusing to recognise the border
with Macedonia. Prime Minister Bajram Rexhepi, a member of the Democratic
Party of Kosovo (PDK), presented the motion. The PDK is the main political
successor to the KLA, headed by former commander Hashim Thaci.

Rexhepi had indicated that he would present the resolution as far back as March. In
a statement read to Radio 21 on March 6, following his first meeting with KFOR
Commander General Valentine Marselleu, Prime Minister Rexhepi said, “Kosovo
institutions do not recognise the agreement for the border line between Skopje and
Belgrade, because with this deal Kosovo lost some 2,500 hectares (6,100 acres) of
its territory to Macedonia.”

The Kosovo PM stated that the resolution would be forwarded to the United Nations
Security Council. This brought an immediate response from Macedonian Minister of
Foreign Affairs Slobodan Cashule who warned, “One-sided revision of the border,
without using the agreement mechanism is a declaration of war, which destroys the
European foundation and the basic principle of the Organisation for Security and
Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) for inviolability of borders.”

The vote was taken in an assembly dominated entirely by ethnic Albanian political
representatives. Serb legislators walked out of the proceedings in protest, leaving
the resolution to be passed with 85 votes for and none against. President Ibrahim
Rugova and his Democratic League of Kosovo (LDK), considered a more moderate
figure in the West, lent their support. All three parties are unanimous in rejecting 
the
integrity of the FRY and its jurisdiction over the border with the Republic of
Macedonia.

United Nations Special Representative (UNSR) Michael Steiner had attempted to
prevent the motion from being presented. He immediately exercised the power of
veto, declaring the resolution “null and void”. Criticising the assembly, he stated: 
“If
you want us to act and if you recognise that for us to act we need the support of the
international community then you don’t antagonise the international community.
Today the assembly did exactly that.

“Kosovo is not an island. Kosovo needs this international support If we want to
progress we must follow the rules.” Steiner’s somewhat mild rebuke was echoed by
the UN Security Council and US State Department and by European Foreign Policy
chief, Javier Solana, who said the resolution “will only undermine the legitimacy of
the Kosovo Assembly.”

The issue in dispute goes far beyond some 2,500 hectares of land. On May 30, a
PDK Assembly member told the 

[CTRL] Phil M's golf sponsor?

2002-06-30 Thread Euphorian

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From http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,747170,00.html

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KPMG conflicts of interest revealed

Jeevan Vasagar and Rob Evans
Monday July 1, 2002
The Guardian

The giant financial consultancy KPMG, whose polo-playing boss is paid £1.7m a
year, has had at least five potential conflicts of interest in its dealings with the
British taxpayer, a Guardian investigation has found.

KPMG is one of the so-called big four who dominate the accountancy world, and is
the latest auditor to be at the centre of controversy over scandals in the US. It
audited Xerox, which on Friday admitted overstating its revenues during the past
five years by almost $2bn.

We have found:

· KPMG was paid to advise Hertfordshire University on a contract to build student
halls which was awarded to one of its construction company clients.

· KPMG advised the highways agency on a major road project awarded to another
of its clients.

· KPMG took £128,000 from the government for an unacceptable investigation
into the tax haven of Belize. It was doing extensive business with the offshore
operators itself.

· KPMG was paid by the Foreign Office to investigate a series of other offshore tax
havens in the Caribbean, where KPMG had its own lucrative offshore operations.

· KPMG has been allowed to place secondees in sensitive departments in the inland
revenue, the Department of Trade and Industry and the serious fraud office, while
specialising in advising firms and individuals how to avoid British tax. In return for
£500 KPMG last month told our reporter in London how to set up an offshore trust.

While the consultancy operates in more tax-avoidance offshore centres than other
firms, KPMG has been paying British politicians and political parties with a generous
hand. Both Toby Harris, leader of the London assembly's Labour group, and Steve
Bassam, before he became a Home Office minister, have been on the KPMG
payroll.

The firm also - uniquely - loaned a KPMG man, Rees Aronson, to serve as the
Labour party's finance director in the year running up to the last general election. It
sponsored and had a KPMG partner on the independent commission set up by the
Labour IPPR thinktank to promote private finance initiative deals, which are
lucrative for KPMG. The firm also helps the Tories, providing several Conservative
frontbenchers with free research.

These big accountancy firms can't simultaneously serve two masters, said Prem
Sikka, professor of accounting at Essex University yesterday. The question must
be asked: are they taking the taxpayer for a ride?

Prof Sikka, a strong of what he calls the anti-social practices of the big four, 
calls
for wholesale reform in his book Dirty Business, to be published today. He says as
much as £85bn in tax may be lost to Britain because of avoidance promoted by the
big four.

Last year KPMG took in more than £7bn in fees from 152 offices spread across the
globe. While Mike Rake, who heads KPMG in Britain and its international
organisation, was paid £1.7m, the firm's 690 partners in Britain took an average of
£413,000 in profits.

KPMG's head of corporate affairs, Gavin Houlgate, last night said the firm did not
believe any conflicts of interest had taken place: These events were all on the
record. They are open and well-known.

He said KPMG had operated in a tightly regulated environment, did not favour any
one political party, and behaved no differently from the other big accountancy firms.

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 do you have a full citation or link for that article?  thanks!
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Yes.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=305801

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[CTRL] Ken Konflict of Interest Starr

2002-06-30 Thread Euphorian

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From http://arktimes.com/reporter/020628reportera.html

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Kenneth Starr, ethics-buster
Private pleader and public prosecutor simultaneously, the Whitewater man blazed a
new and frightening trail.

By Doug Smith
June 28, 2002

 I'm the local sheriff. I have reason to believe that you have committed a crime. I
put a gun to your head, a common and respectable practice for law enforcement
officials in these parts when they encounter suspected criminals. You happen to be
the town's mayor. I'm investigating you for alleged corruption, for skewing your
official decisions for personal gain and then covering up your actions.

Just then, the postal carrier arrives and hands you your mail. One of the letters you
have received is, coincidentally, from me, on the stationery of my law firm. You will
recall, Mr. Mayor, that being sheriff is only a part-time job; the rest of the time 
I'm a
corporate lawyer. The letter says that I represent frontier.com, that my client is
seeking regulatory relief from Town Hall, and that we really deserve your help. With
my weapon pressed to your skull - for reasons, of course, wholly unrelated to
frontier.com's request - you read my eloquent plea on behalf of my client.

That is David Halperin, explaining - better than anyone has - how Kenneth Starr
operated.

Long before his probe of alleged misconduct in Arkansas was eclipsed by his
investigation of the Monica Lewinsky matter, Starr blazed a new trail on our nation's
legal ethics map, Halperin writes. For four years, from his August 5, 1994,
appointment as independent counsel to his July 31, 1998, announcement that he
would take an unpaid leave of absence from his position as a partner in the law firm
Kirkland  Ellis, Starr pressed the interests of private clients in numerous high-
stakes legal matters, many involving the participation or interests of the Executive
Branch of the United States Government, while conducting a criminal investigation
of, among others, the head of the Executive Branch, President Clinton.

Halperin's article Ethics Breakthrough or Ethics Breakdown? Kenneth Starr's Dual
Roles as Private Practitioner and Public Prosecutor appeared last month in the
Georgetown Journal of Legal Ethics, published by the students of the Georgetown
University Law Center in Washington. Halperin is a lawyer and executive director of
the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy in Washington, though he
stressed in an interview that the article was unrelated to the Society.

Halperin believes there was a breakdown, and that Starr violated existing codes of
legal ethics. But whether he did or didn't, laws should be enacted to prevent any
other special prosecutor from doing what Starr did, Halperin says. He would bar
special prosecutors from doing private legal work while they're serving as
prosecutors.

Although many of the federal independent counsels or special prosecutors
appointed since the 1970s continued to engage in private practice while conducting
their probes, all of the other counsels whose mandates included investigation of
conduct by the president - Watergate prosecutors Archibald Cox and Leon Jaworski,
Iran-Contra counsel Lawrence E. Walsh, Starr's Whitewater predecessor Robert B.
Fiske Jr., and Robert W. Ray, who replaced Starr in October 1999 - chose not to.
And no independent counsel had simultaneously pursued a private law practice
touching on so many high-profile and important federal policy matter as did Starr's.

Here are a few examples; Halperin's article has more:

· In January 1993, in its last week in office, the Bush administration scrapped a
policy that prohibited former senior Justice Department officials, for a period of one
year after they left office, from litigating in cases where the Justice Department also
represented a party. The change benefitted people like Starr - the solicitor general
under Bush - who were preparing to re- enter private practice. Three months later,
Bush was representing Bell Atlantic Corp. in a suit challenging a federal law, and
the Justice Department was defending the suit. Bell had filed the suit while Starr
was still at the Justice Department. Meanwhile, the Clinton administration reinstated
the old policy about former Justice Department employees, and advised Starr that
he was in violation. After some resistance, Starr stopped signing briefs in the Bell
Atlantic case until the one-year anniversary passed. In February 1996, after Starr
had been appointed special prosecutor in the Whitewater case, Clinton signed
legislation that effectively gave Bell Atlantic what it wanted, making the lawsuit
moot.

By taking advantage almost immediately of a new and untested ethics
interpretation, an interpretation implemented at Justice in the final days of
Republican control of the Department - implemented by outgoing officials who stood
to gain career opportunities from the change in policy - Starr showed a willingness
to test the boundaries of ethical 

[CTRL] Road Rage Incident

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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Living in California I have observed many incidents of road rage. Today was
one of the worst. A couple of drunk men returning from Stinson Beach were
following me, one of them standing up with his head out of the sunroof
yelling at drivers and jestering for them to pull over. The road was a
winding mountain road with a double yellow no passing lane the entire
distance.

I was going the speed limit so saw no reason to pull over so the drunk
speeders could kill someone, and besides there were several cars in front of
me so what would it accomplish?

Eventually we came to a crossroads and the other cars in front turned the
other way. The drunks behind me illegally pulled in front of me at the stop
sigh by crossing the double yellow line, not stoping and swerving around me
in the opposite lane.

After a while they slowed down to about 10 MPH, then came to a complete stop,
blocking the lane. If I tried to go around them they would have sped up. So
here we are sitting on a lonely country road and they they started throwing
things at my car. I told them to stop, and they started to get out (!) This
was becoming very strange very fast. I was so shocked and concerned that I
did not even see or try to record their license number. Eventually after a
standoff of about 2 minutes, someone else came by and started to pass. The
care in front sped off at a high speed.

From now on, I will carry a disposable flash camera in my glove compartment
to use to gather evidence on these asshole drivers, and will now *always*
carry pepper spray. If any drunk treatens me I will not hesitate to use it.

I am mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!!!

(If I was in Texas I would get a permit to carry a gun like my parents do.
But then I might be tempted to use it, so pepper spray is probably a good
idea for California, however you never now if the other person has a gun.)

Steve

In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace
and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation
plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being
transformed before our very eyes.

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Re: [CTRL] Road Rage Incident

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  jestering

That was supposed to be 'gesturing'. They were acting like jesters however.

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[CTRL] Chernobyl: For 14 years the industry has downplayed the damage to humans and the planet

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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(WND (Worldnet Daily) is a source of disinformation. This article is more
unbiased. Unless you are a right wing extremist who worships big business and
hates environmentalism. --SW))

http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Chernobyl/050700.html

Chernobyl: For 14 years the industry has downplayed the damage to humans and
the planet

by John M. LaForge 7 May 2000 Minneapolis Star Tribune

With a heavy dose of half-truth, the commercial press works overtime to
reduce the results of the April 26, 1986, Chernobyl catastrophe to a nervous
disorder confined to the former Soviet Union and Europe. Understated
anniversary reports of the worldwide radiation disaster help the nuclear
industry hold on against overwhelming opposition, in spite of what should
have been the final insult from nuclear power.

Efforts at psychological cleanup often sound like Peter Crane, a lawyer at
the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), who says that the explosion .
. . sent a radioactive cloud into the atmosphere of Eastern Europe. This is
a true statement. It merely neglects to mention the rest of planet Earth.

Journalist Michael Specter reports, The fire, which burned out of control
for five days, spewed more than 50 tons of radioactive fallout across
Belarus, Ukraine and Western Russia. This loaded sentence is true, in a
limited sense. That the fire burned uncontrolled for two weeks after a series
of three explosions; that perhaps 190 tons of reactor fuel was catapulted
into the atmosphere; or that the radioactive fallout spread worldwide,
reaching Minnesota's milk, for example, doesn't make Specter a liar, only a
miser with the truth.

The Associated Press' Dave Carpenter's description that deadly reactor fuel
shot into the atmosphere, contaminating some 10,000 square miles and reaching
as far as Western Europe is likewise correct, but Reuters reported on Nov.
28, 1995, that the contaminated areas include about 61,780 square miles. What
is it to understate the total of irradiated territory by a factor of six? It
isn't the pot calling the kettle black; it's the cesium calling the strontium
a cancer agent.

Carpenter's AP lullaby was published widely and included the comment that
those living in the shadow of Chernobyl will be living with its deadly
health and environmental legacy for years.

For years? The word centuries would have been more accurate, if
conservative, since radiation's health effects are multigenerational and not
limited in time. Indeed, some genetic effects appear to be increasing with
each successive generation.

The AP's Angela Charlson reported that the explosions sent a radioactive
cloud across parts of Europe. Understatement was practiced as well by the
New York Times, which said the disaster spewed radiation across much of
Europe and that a plume of toxic gases and dust . . . spread across the
western Soviet Union, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia. While this
uncomfortable fact is nowadays passe, the contamination of the whole world
was hinted at when the Times reported that the radiation spread across
western Russia and beyond.

`Irrational fears'?


While Chernobyl's long-lived carcinogens -- primarily cesium, plutonium,
strontium and iodine -- are well known to be deadly for decades or centuries,
Soviet officials, the United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency
(IAEA) and U.S. editors have all ridiculed the common-sense fear of
Chernobyl's radioactive fallout.

The official Soviet paper Izvestia said in 1988 that doctors in the Ukraine
were spending more time on trying to dispel irrational fears than on
treating the effects of radiation.


The IAEA, which at first refused to conduct a post-Chernobyl health study,
claiming that all the accident's effects were confined within Soviet borders,
dared to say in a 1991 study that Chernobyl's health effects were mainly
psychological. The heavily criticized report did not consider the health of
the emergency-response workers or of the evacuees from the 18-mile exclusion
zone, 8,000 of whom are now known to have died from radiation-related
diseases.

The IAEA study failed to mention the lengthy latency period for observed
cancer incidence. This cavalier whitewash of the disaster's inevitable
results came from a nominal nuclear watchdog. After all, the IAEA is in the
business of promoting nuclear energy, not discouraging it. For 10 years the
agency has attempted to downplay the consequences of the accident, wrote
Alexander R. Sich in a cover story for the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists. The
IAEA, still downplaying in 1995, said any increase in cancer caused by
Chernobyl would be undetectable.

Editors across the country have embraced the IAEA's dismissive attitude,
distracting readers with headlines like Citizens still suffering radiation
phobia and The legacy of Chernobyl: Fear is the deeper wound. A dread of
radiation doesn't appear irrational in view of 1995's report that A second
catastrophic explosion at the Chernobyl nuclear plant in 

[CTRL] Chernobyl disaster may have caused increased risk of lung cancer

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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From:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1615000/1615299.stm

[...]

Five million exposed

It is thought that as many as five million people were exposed to some sort
of health hazard following the Chernobyl disaster.

The latest Russian research, carried out by Victor Chizhikov at the Institute
of Pulmonology in Moscow, followed reports of chronic respiratory problems
among clean-up workers.

It looked for molecular abnormalities in the lung lining of more than 40 of
these workers which might indicate an increased risk of lung cancer.

One type of abnormality was found in more than 60% of the volunteers, and
just under a quarter had another.

The majority of the group were smokers, but Mr Chizhikov said they
represented a distinct spectrum of molecular alterations and a high risk
of lung cancer.




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[CTRL] Worst Effects of Chernobyl To Come

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Chernobyl/042500.html

Worst Effects of Chernobyl To Come

Associated Press 25 April 2000

GENEVA (AP) -- The United Nations released a new assessment of the 1986
Chernobyl nuclear meltdown Tuesday, saying the worst health consequences for
millions of people may be yet to come.

At least 100 times as much radiation was released by this accident as by the
two atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined at the end of
World War II, said a 32-page booklet released to mark the 14th anniversary of
the disaster.

Three people were killed in the explosion on April 26, 1986, and 28 emergency
workers died within the first three months, the report said. It gave no other
death toll, but noted that 106 of the other emergency workers that were first
on the scene also were diagnosed with acute radiation syndrome.

And, the report said, a total of 600,000 emergency workers who helped in the
cleanup and later built a cover to seal the destroyed reactor must be
constantly monitored for the effects of exposure to radiation.

The booklet, published by the U.N. Office for the Coordination of
Humanitarian Affairs, said the three countries most affected by the radiation
-- Belarus, Ukraine and Russia -- continue to pay the price.

Chernobyl is a word we would all like to erase from our memory, said U.N.
Secretary-General Kofi Annan in a foreword.

But, Annan added, more than 7 million of our fellow human beings do not have
the luxury of forgetting. They are still suffering, everyday, as a result of
what happened. He said the exact number of victims may never be known, but
that 3 million children require treatment and many will die prematurely.

Not until 2016, at the earliest, will be known the full number of those
likely to develop serious medical conditions because of delayed reactions to
radiation exposure, he said.

Annan said response to a U.N. appeal launched three years ago had fallen so
short that the original list of 60 projects had been shortened to the nine
most urgent.

These nine projects could, if implemented, make a vital difference to the
lives of many people, Annan said in appealing for governments and
institutions to contribute $9.5 million.

The projects include modernization of a hospital, creation of a network of
centers to treat children and decontamination of schools, kindergartens and
hospitals in Belarus.


In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace
and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation
plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being
transformed before our very eyes.

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[CTRL] Deadly toll of Chernobyl

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Chernobyl/042200.html

Deadly toll of Chernobyl

BBC News 22 April 2000

One of Chernobyl's nuclear reactors is still in operation About 15,000 people
were killed and 50,000 left handicapped in the emergency clean-up after the
Chernobyl nuclear accident, according to a group representing those who
worked in the relief operations.

The number of invalids caused by the radiation has multiplied twelvefold
since 1991, says Viacheslav Grishin, president of the Chernobyl League.

The Chernobyl plant was the scene of the world's worst civilian nuclear
accident in April 1986 -- when its number four reactor exploded, sending a
radioactive cloud across much of Europe.

CHERNOBYL TOLL


30 killed immediately 15,000 relief workers killed 50,000 relief workers
invalid 5 million exposed to radiation 52,000 fled the area around Chernobyl


The exact number of dead has never been given, but it is estimated that five
million people were exposed to radiation in Ukraine, Belarus and Russia.

About 30 people were killed immediately and thousands were evacuated from the
region.

AGEING FASTER


Ukraine's Health Ministry estimates that 3.5 million people, over a third of
them children, have suffered illness as a result of the contamination, and
the incidence of some cancers is 10 times the national average.

First Deputy Health Minister Olga Bobylyova said: The health of people
affected by the Chernobyl accident is getting worse and worse every year.

We are very disturbed by these data.

Ms Bobylyova told a news conference that the death rate among workers exposed
to radiation while cleaning up Chernobyl has been rising.

She said that the death rate among the liquidators -- as the group is known
-- was higher than among other people apparently because they are ageing
faster.

Ms Bobylyova said most of the deaths were caused by poor blood circulation,
cancer, respiratory and digestive diseases and traumas.

She noted that thyroid cancer cases have increased 10 times in Ukraine in
general since the accident.

One of Chernobyl's four nuclear reactors is still in operation.


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long as I'm the dictator.
 -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on
12/18/2000.
As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website
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[CTRL] Chernobyl Kills And Cripples 14 Years After Blast

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Chernobyl/042100.html

Chernobyl Kills And Cripples 14 Years After Blast

April 21, 2000

By Reuters KIEV (Reuters) -- Fourteen years after the world's worst nuclear
disaster, Chernobyl power plant is still reaping a harvest of deaths,
Ukraine's Health Ministry said Friday.

Some 3.5 million people, over a third of them children, have suffered illness
as a result of the contamination and the incidence of some cancers is 10
times the national average.

The health of people affected by the Chernobyl accident is getting worse and
worse every year, Deputy Health Minister Olha Bobyleva told a news
conference.

We are very disturbed by these data.

Chernobyl's number four reactor exploded in the early hours of April 26,
1986, spreading a poisonous radioactive cloud over much of Ukraine, Russia,
Belarus and parts of Western Europe.

Soviet officials, who initially tried to hush up the tragedy, acknowledged in
the end that the accident had killed 31 people and affected thousands more.

Scale of Tragedy Greater Than Thought


But the real scale of the catastrophe, which displaced hundreds of thousands
of people and turned bustling villages and towns into ghost communities
populated only by stray dogs and crows, has turned out to be far greater than
once thought.

Official data show that the health of some 3.5 million people, including 1.26
million children, was affected in this impoverished nation of 50 million.

Children and also emergency workers sent in to clean up the contaminated
areas are among the worst affected.

The death rate among those living in contaminated areas is 18.28 percent per
1,000, compared to a national average of 14.8 percent.

Bobyleva said high radiation had led to an outbreak of diseases of the
nervous, blood and respiratory systems. She said the number of these diseases
among children affected by the accident was 17 percent higher than the
national average.

The rate of thyroid cancer remains 10 times higher than normal among
Ukrainian children. The ministry reported 1,400 cases of thyroid cancer
between 1986 and 2000, while no cases were registered between 1981 and 1985.


Bobyleva said the ministry was particularly worried by an increase in deaths
of emergency workers, popularly called `'liquidators, most of whom
are still under 50. The death rate in the group is double the national
average.

She said the consumption of radioactive food produced in the country's most
contaminated northern and central regions of Kiev, Chernihiv, Zhytomyr,
Cherkassy and Rivne posed another danger for public health.

A lack of cash and other economic problems have further complicated the
situation. Cash-strapped Ukraine has spent $1.4 billion to date to fight the
consequences of the accident.

Ukraine has promised it will close Chernobyl's last operational reactor by
the end of this year.
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In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace
and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation
plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being
transformed before our very eyes.

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[CTRL] Chernobyl's cancer world record

2002-06-30 Thread Steve Wingate

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http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Chernobyl/060700.html

[...]

In the years since the disaster, more than 4,000 people in Ukraine have died
as a result of acute radiation syndrome and thyroid cancer, and another
15,000 are unable to work. Scientists have discovered genetic mutations in
children whose parents were exposed to the radioactivity, so the effects are
being passed from one generation to the next.


If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
 -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on
12/18/2000.
As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website
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