Re: [CTRL] Federal AIDS Funding

2001-06-06 Thread ArkAngel



Greetings,
 
What is this, bash everything that does not fit 
into the perspective of goodness to everyone on this list?  Whether you be 
gay, straight or star child, if your entitled as a human being then your 
entitled, so be it.  I am rather tired of all this paranoia about gays and 
sodomites etc.  I should think some would have other things to 
worry about rather than fearing what may or may not happen in any given 
time.
 
Whether or not anyone on this list likes gays or 
not, or lesbians or not or black people or not, they too have feelings and 
are a part of God's Kingdom as well and I do not care who does not like 
it.  God may not approve of these things, but he says he loves all people, 
how is it some on this list cannot and then you set in judgement of all that 
moves and does not fit into their holy schedule?  Some of you even blow way 
out of proportion many advertisments and things, this is so silly it deserves no 
reply at all, but it galls me to think so many on this list are so very perfect 
and only they are correct,,what rubbish.
 
I joined this list to learn of conspiracies and 
the like, not to run people down with some supposed idea that may or may not 
exist!  This lists name should be changed from CTRL to I hate everything 
that does not agree with me!
 
How would some of you like it, if allot of people 
hated you for what you beleived in or how you lived and set in judgement of 
you.  I am sure you would disapprove.  People cannot even get along on 
this earth that our Lord made for us, it is doubtful he will accept many into 
his kingdom with such horrible hate in their hearts for all that do not agree 
with them.  
 
This all saddens me to think that as human 
beings some can be so very cruel and then justify it with stupidity.  

 
Merely my opinion
 
ArkAngel
 

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From: Amelia
>Seems gays help themselves to all kinds of tax 
funding.>Scroll down past the Home Depot article to find just a 
few.>If all of these things were eliminated, I could get a 
tax>refund and donate the money to the Boy Scouts.
 
[snip]
>This weekend, hundreds of homosexuals will gather at 
the>Cathedral City Boys Club, a homosexual resort in 
Cathedral>City, California to attend "FistFest 2001," which is 
being>billed as a "weekend of the hottest fisting in the U.S. 
Hot>men--hot days--hot hands and hot h__s". (Interestingly 
enough,>a spokesman for this homosexual sex orgy club has denied 
the>event is happening, but FistFest is listed on the club's 
own>web site and the club held a similar FistFest last June.)
 
Have you ever watched MTV during Spring Break week?  The above 
doesn't sound any different, except of course MTV highlights 
heterosexual orgies...
 
And I don't see anything about taxpayer dollars paying for 
this...
 


  
  

   
   
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Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-04 Thread ArkAngel

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very true yardbird, very true

ArkAngel
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>
>  > And it is so funny at times, those who shout consitiutuional rights,
> > sometimes are the very same who would try to take your beleif away from
> > you..
>
> Sort of like the left-wing eh? These being the same people who demand
> "tolerance" and "diversity" for homosexuality inter alia and then
> routinely demand that there be no tolerance for diverse religious, ethical
> and/or socio-political views that differ from theirs. God forbid that
> tolerance should be considered universally inclusive.
>
>
>
> > Merely my opinions and I point a finger to no one,
> >
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Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-04 Thread ArkAngel

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>The Bible also forbids the wearing of cloth made from two kinds of
>threads and the rounding of the corners of the beard. Why aren't all
>these rabid homophobes equally upset about people doing those things?
>They are both far more common than sodomy.

Well Nessie, I cannot answer for all people and I certainly do not intend to
try.  People pick and choose their sins I guess, and then forgive them with
a just excuse.  Our society does not like sexual things,  but yet they do
the same things but under a different name and perhaps with a different
ideal.  I guess it depends on who is doing what to whom and why they are
doing it and whether it is consenual or not, then of course it has to come
up to societies perspective of rightousness.  And when it does not, it is
labled this or that, or this is wicked or that is wicked.  Now, I am NOT
defending child molestations or anything like that, yes that is horrible.
People who do such things belong in prison, no doubt about it.

As to the bread and thread,,hehehe well, lets not go there for that is a
whole new idea and I am sure someone will have something disagreeable to say
about it.

These things have been discussed for centuries and these things shall
continue to be discused for another century no doubt if we exist that long.
One persons rightousness is another person sin, so to say.  We all see
things differently and it also seems no on can even agree to disagree.

I myself, do not like many things that happen in society, but I also do not
think fighting over them or putting another down for beleiveing in what he
or she believes in is the correct path to take either.  Everyone has his or
her dislikes and everyone has his or her belief system, and according to the
constitution we have that right, a right that no one has a right to take
away from you, regardless of how bizarre it might be.

And it is so funny at times, those who shout consitiutuional rights,
sometimes are the very same who would try to take your beleif away from
you..

Merely my opinions and I point a finger to no one,

ArkAngel






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Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-04 Thread ArkAngel

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Greetings,

I do not remember saying that anyone could not protect their families and
friends from such things.. enough said,

ArkAngel

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From: "Aleisha Saba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Well Ark Angel - Gay Pride and they are well organized, still pushes to
> destroy the boy scouts - using Jesse Jackson tactics, for they all have
> the same teacher.
>
> Now if anybody wants to take a vow of poverty, fly the Gay Pride Flag,
> and move into a lepor community I do not care - I say this,  AIDS is the
> end result.
>
> A black man was on TV last night saying AIDS is wiping out an entire
> generation of blacks.he still doesn't get it, does it - over 1/3 of
> homosexual blacks have AIDS and some of the bisexuals then bring home to
> their families.
>
> I reserve the right to protect my children and grandhild from predators
> who slobber at the mouth by now, attempting to push into the Boy Scouts
> of America - whom democrats jeered and berated at the democrat
> convention ..
>
> Gay Pride has rights but the Supreme Court recently ruled, so do I -
> Larry Flynt and his followers and the NAACP and Gay Pride who flew their
> sick flag over our State House will find out that I am rights too if
> they tred on my toes.
>
> Cannot put new wine in old bottles so they go after the kids?Poor
> Littleton - two alleged homosexuals slaughter their little classmates,
> using Uzi or AK's and plan to blow up the school and entire block and
> get caught befoe they finish the job the way planned - like
> Oklahoma.just because they were picked on and called queer?
>
> You got to be kidding Ark Angel - it is said the devil can appear as the
> angel of light- but these sodomists will not give up will they - they
> want to destroy the Boys Scouts and all for which it stands.
>
> But those who would protect their children have a Supreme Court ruling
> to back hem up and those who would protect their children can boycott
> United Way, not buy the crap these people who would destroy the boy
> scouts sell, along with their fast foods = and yes, they can protect
> their children by showing just a portion of what Gay Pride has
> accomplished .
> the need to put homosexuals in charge of little children.
>
> You see we do not want to encourage people taking the law into their own
> hands
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Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride

2001-06-04 Thread ArkAngel

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Greetings all

It scares me that this sort of thing is on this list.  It is rubbish and a
scare tatic which is very typical for many of these lists.  what anyone
wishes to be in life, be you a sodomite or not, is your business, I see no
one lurking around corners dark at night in the streets ready to grab a
innocent one as many have told you ( not that it does not happen from time
to time mind you ).   You will find that when bad things happen to good
people, then someone is at blame, so that means someone has to be blamed and
then some poor soul suffers from the paranoia of the masses.

God said bad things would happen, not because one is a sodomite or anything
else.  It was due to what the Bible calls SIN.  Christians SIN too, so do
homosexuals, straights, sodomites etc etc etc etc and what are the wages of
SIN, the Bible says Death.  God will take care of it!  I remember NO
instructions for us to do so.  If I also remember correctly from my
theological and seminary studies, It was many a Christian who destroyed the
Biblical texts and vulgarized them with their heretic word changes that it
is a miracle we understand it all today even.

It is not right that anyone set in judgement of another.  In fact,the Bible
forbids it.  I do not like people to be so smug to think they are so very
correct in their belief.  It seems to me, that what we think is right and
correct, may in fact be not so correct at all.  Humans are very sad
creatures, in as much as they judge unrightously and think themselves so
perfect.

Merely my opinions
ArkAngel

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From: "Nate Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Aleisha,
>
> I am getting very frustrated with your lack of intelligence again.
>
> A:  Sodomites are not exclusively homosexuals.  Look it up in
the dictionary
> before you use it.  Your misuse of the term shows your lack of
intelligence.
>
> B:  The below document is just pure filth.  It is a piece of
literature from
> the religious right included as a scare tactic to corporation not to
> withdraw support from the Boy Scouts.  I again tell you that not all
> pedophiles are exclusively homosexuals, nor is there a large percentage of
> them.  It scares me that there are people who actually believe this stuff
> out there in the world.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Aleisha Saba
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 11:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CTRL] More of Gay Pride
>
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> More for June's edification of why the Boy Scouts do not need sodomites
> for leaders of the little cub scouts..
>
> Saba
>
>
>
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:16 PM
>
> Subject: [Conspiranoia!] Five Good Reasons Why The Boy Scouts Ban Gays
> [Homosexuals]
> Saturday, June 2, 2001
>
> Five Good Reasons Why The Boy Scouts Ban Gays
>
> Those nitwitted companies, charities and municipalities out to punish
> the Boy Scouts of America for its ban on homosexuals should take a good
> look at five of the good reasons for the ban, as reported by the Rev.
> Louis P. Sheldon, chairman of the Traditional Values Coalition
>
> In April, a Canadian Scout leader was charged with sexual touching and
> sexual exploitation for molesting two boys under his care. This
> homosexual offered alcohol, X-rated videos and condoms to the boys.
>
> In February, John Levendosky, a former assistant Boy Scout leader in
> Pennsylvania, was charged with endangering the welfare of children and
> charged with assault for tying two boys to a tree and cutting them.
> Police found pornographic bondage magazines and sadomasochistic
> paraphernalia in his home.
>
> In January, William Elliott, a New York Scout leader, was charged on 20
> counts of molesting four boys.
>
> In April, Keith Crumpton, a Mississippi Scout leader, faced five counts
> of fondling a minor and traveling across state lines to have sex with a
> boy. He molested three young boys.
>
> In April, an Annapolis Scout leader was arrested for sexually abusing a
> 13-year-old Scout under his supervision. Homosexual Matthew Showalter
> faces 20 years in prison if convicted. Says the Rev. Sheldon: "The list
> goes on, but the point should be clear: Men with a 'sexual orientation'
> toward other males - little boys, teenagers, or men - are quite likely
> to act out their sexual desires when given the chance.
>
> These cases demonstrate that there are already NAMBLA homosexuals hiding
> out in the Boy Scouts of America organization. We should not open the
> doors to

Re: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY

2001-04-21 Thread ArkAngel

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If you two have a personal issue with each other, why put it on the list,
that is not fair to us who have to go through all this and then see a scrap
like this.  There are more important things to read you know.

As to soy, soy can benefit you in many ways, and I suppose it could harm you
in many ways.  You will find, that if you overindulge in anything it could
be harmful.  Not only with soy, but with any product.  I eat soy products
and it has never hurt me at all, not once, but then I do not rely on that
source totally.

For you to pick on Steve in another zone is unfair.  I believe you should
keep personal things personal.  However that is only my opinion.  I rarely
speak up on things, but this sparked me as rude and confrontational.

Ivan

- Original Message -
From: "nexusmagazine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 1:17 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Greenies want you Dead - STUPIDITY


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> >Duncan, you never cease to amaze; how many times in a single post you
> >can flame someone. Even when I agree with you, your behavior is quite
> >disagreable. Didn't you mother in New Zealand teach you any manners? I
> >thought New Zealanders were more civilized than the Aussies, but now I'm
> >wondering.
> >
> >Steve
>
>
> Ah Steve Wingate, the guy who kicked me off his forum for daring to
> challenge the 'all soy products are good for you' mantra.  One would
> think he must be getting kickbacks from all those soy transnational
> corporations he loves to support.  How about telling your UFO group the
> other side of the story Steve?
>
> Yes Steve, I let fly with a flame.  Being a greenie myself, and noting
> the rising tide of 'all greenies are part of the new world order'
> bullshit, I thought I would let off some testosterone.
>
> And by the way, I am an Aussie, but then all that soy you eat must have
> made you forget.
>
> And as for flaming - you should read your own emails some time.
>
> I realise you have a personal issue with me, so why not make it personal
> and communicate directly with your hangups.  That way we boys don't have
> to take up the space and time of more mature people out there.
>
> bye bye Steve
>
> Duncan
>
>
> Duncan M. Roads
> Editor, NEXUS Magazine
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