[CTRL] Notice from Joshua Report
IMPORTANT NOTICE from JOSHUA MICHAEL [My husband's name is appropriate: Michael is the Chief Archangel of God, who "contends with the devil"] AND I would like to take a moment to thank all the wonderful WRITERS AND RESEARCHERS cited in these reports. Because of their combined efforts, we are able to learn the UNVARNISHED TRUTH of what is going on in our country. [A special thanks goes to the ORIGINAL SOURCES, i.e., Bill and Hillary Clinton, etc., who just can't help BOASTING about their plans for our overthrow: From YOUR WORDS shall we know thee!] We would also like to personally thank EACH OF YOU, our readers, who have graciously taken the time to write us with words of encouragement. Daily, we are amazed and grateful for the wonderful responses our reports receive! As most of you know, it takes unceasing patience and vigilence to do the research involved in learning the truth - the INSIDERS are far too good at lies and cover-ups, DELIBERATELY KEEPING ALL OF US IN A CONSTANT STATE OF CONFUSION. For the most part, JOSHUA works alone. We receive no monetary backing or staff assistance. But, we manage to survive, with the assistance of a small monthly pension, each other, and the blessings and guidance of OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN. So much is at stake here, though, that Michael and I have chosen to dedicate our last hours on this earth to informing everyone we can AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE of what is about to happen. From time to time, we become discouraged in the face of overwhelming opposition. However, We become RE-ENERGIZED with every request to be placed on our list, for back issues, or just to say "Thank you!" A VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU goes to each of you who are taking the time to RE-POST these reports and MAKE COPIES to pass out to friends who aren't on the Net. Let's face it: They certainly aren't going to learn the truth on the 11 o'clock news! Our list is growing rapidly. Thanks to your help, readers of THE JOSHUA REPORT now include members of the military, the education community and the Christian network - and they come from as far away as the Eastern bloc of the old Soviet Union. THANK YOU ALL! As MATT DRUDGE says, this is our time, Friends. The Internet is no respector of persons: It recognizes neither class, race, education, gender, or religious affiliation. Like Michael, many of you are veterans and have bravely faced the enemy on foreign battlefields. WE ARE AT WAR AGAIN, but this time the TARGET is not thousands of miles away. It is right here: AMERICA, OUR BELOVED HOMELAND! And it is not the military who are under attack. It is WE THE PEOPLE - BY THE MILITARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, BOTH DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN. Needless to say, their COMMANDERS- IN-CHIEF are BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON! We cannot do this alone though. There is no time left for egotism: we are talking MONTHS, if we are lucky! This is not a joke, and this is not an exercise. THIS IS THE REAL THING! Our military strength comes from a HUGE NETWORK OF PATRIOTS SHARING INFORMATION. TOGETHER WE CAN DO THIS! Remember, THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND OUR FUTURE WE ARE DEFENDING. Anybody who CAN help and is too lazy or selfish to do so, by default is working for the enemy! Because, we ALL have something important to contribute and EVERY SINGLE ONE of us is needed: THIS IS THE LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT WAR WE WILL EVER FIGHT. IF WE LOSE IT MEANS DEATH OR ENSLAVEMENT! ARE YOU PREPARED FOR THAT? Oh, and by the way, MR. AND MRS. PRESIDENT: There is already an army of us out here and we are GROWING STRONGER every day. In your mistaken conceit, you and your fellow Marxists, Ted and Jane Turner laugh at the American people, calling them "THE DUMBEST PEOPLE ON EARTH." I wouldn't advise you to become too smug, though: When our country began, it took a mere 3% of the population to break the British Empire's hold on us. There are far more of us this time around, and WE WILL NOT GIVE UP OUR COUNTRY - OR OUR CONSTITUTION. GOD BLESS AMERICA! LOVE GODSPEED! JOSHUA [MICHAEL His OUTLAWLADY] P.S. Because of the growing amount of research involved, beginning with Issue #15, we are limiting our reports to ONCE A WEEK: On FRIDAYS. See y'all then!
[CTRL] Joshua #13 pt3
Vol I THE JOSHUA REPORT No. #13 "...We can't be so fixated on our desire to Preserve the Rights of ORDINARY Americans..." - President Bill Clinton USA TODAY 3/11/93 PART III of 4 WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON ... ELECTED Official or CFR APPOINTEE? [GAMES THEY NEVER TAUGHT US IN SCHOOL!] If PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON can't be bothered with upholding the CONSTITUTION, and preserving OUR RIGHTS as "ORDINARY AMERICANS," just exactly who IS he working for??? [You gotta admit this would certainly explain how he got in the position he's in today!] CLINTON - (1) a working member of the MOB [international organized crime], and (2) a 33rd-degree MASON - has sworn his allegiance to the (3) UNITED NATIONS. He sits on the (4) COUNCIL OF 300, belongs to the (5) TRILATERAL COMMISSION, the (6) BILDERBERGERS, and, of course, the (7) COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS [CFR]. The important thing to remember about all of these organizations - besides the obvious point that they are all incorporated BUSINESSES - is that EVERY ONE OF THESE HAVE TAKEN AN OATH TO DESTROY AMERICA! If we examine these organizations one by one, maybe we can figure out WHY - and [with Billy Boy's help] just how far they have progressed to that deadline of 2000: (1) "...[When Chicago-area CONGRESSMAN HENRY HYDE] was a State Legislator, he corrupted other state and federal officials to instrumentally protect a GANGSTER- OWNED gambling casino on Paradise Island in the Bahamas. The toll bridge linking the place with Nassau was owned by then-PRESIDENT RICHARD M. NIXON, now by Nixon's Estate. ...Like Nixon, HYDE has been part of NAVAL INTELLIGENCE assigned to the CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY [retiring with the rank of Commander]... "Hyde became part of the spy agency's worldwide covert funding and political assassination apparatus, masquerading as the NUGAN HAND BANK...Upon the collapse of NUGAN HAND BANK in 1980 and the supposed destruction of their records, their worldwide espionage and dirty tricks funding, disguised as banking...was taken over by their successor, HOUSEHOLD INTERNATIONAL and HOUSEHOLD BANK...now headquartered in a Chicago suburb near a convenient suburb airport...HENRY HYDE has a large financial stake in HOUSEHOLD... "Upon the collapse of the Chicago suburban American Heritage Savings Loan Association, the Federal Home Loan Bank, acting as a midwife, arranged its take-over by HOUSEHOLD. The cover-up included sending some of American Heritage's officials to federal prison to shut them up. Keeping the criminal matter from getting into HENRY HYDE's complicity in the affair was Assistant Federal Prosecutor Susan Bogart, now part of a special Chicago team on Hyde"s CLINTON IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. After being accused in a published decision by the Federal Appeals Court in Chicago of Jury-tampering, which favored some of the S L defendants in the criminal case, Susan Bogart left federal employment. "To arrange the take-over of the S L, the HOME LOAN BANK parked $58.4 MILLION with HOUSEHOLD to make good the pending claims of Chicago-area caulking contractor, Joseph Andreuccetti, who contends the S L helped swindle him of sums close to that amount. In 1988, $50 MILLION of those parked funds were secretly transferred from HOUSEHOLD to LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS, in an attempt to cover up the embezzlement there of $47 MILLION from MADISON GUARANTY SAVINGS LOAN, for which BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON are subject to being prosecuted and sent to federal prison. [This is what the WHITEWATER scandal was REALLY about!] (The $3 MILLION difference was used by RAHM EMANUEL to start Clinton's first campaign for President.) When a senior investigator of the S L bail-out agency, RESOLUTION TRUST CORPORATION, Jon Parnell Walker, discovered the details, he demanded a full inquiry by his federal agency. His insistance was cut short when HE WAS MYSTERIOUSLY THROWN TO HIS DEATH from a building in Arlington, Virginia. "The secret transfer of the $50 MILLION was arranged by HYDE with the aid of John E. Gierum, a lawyer in the same suburb of Chicago, PARK RIDGE, that HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON's family is from. A close crony of the RODHAMS, Gierum grew up with that family and went to law school with one of HILLARY's brothers. In January, 1994, Gierum confessed...in the presence of Joseph Andreuccetti (who was once Gierum's law client), that the CLINTON WHITE HOUSE is attempting to send Gierum to prison on a frame- up...Later, when confronted in Court...with his confession, Gierum DID NOT DISPUTE the same. [1] "Chicago US District Judge George M. Marovich put the case out of Court claiming he could not hear it because IT HAD TOO MANY DETAILS [!]...A simple explanation of why HYDE arranged the $50 MILLION transfer is that HYDE is protecting two CIA OPERATIVES with the agency since an early age,
Re: [CTRL] FW: 'Holiday' greetings
-Caveat Lector- Beautiful! I love you, Jim! The same to you! Godspeed! The OUTLAWLADY Jim Condit Jr. wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Kalivas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 27, 1998 8:54 AM To: (Recipient list suppressed) Subject:'Holiday' greetings Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, our best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all . . . and... a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 1999, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions have helped make America great (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only "AMERICA" in the western hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, or choice of computer platform of the wishee. (By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms: This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher.) This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the discretion of the wisher.) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] National War College and Who owns your state
-Caveat Lector- Two very interesting sites, The NATIONAL WAR COLLEGE seems to rely on what KISSENGER tells them. http://www.ndu.edu/ndu/nwc/nwchp.html Next one is seventeen chapters on ENGAGING POWER FOR PEACE which is loaded with pictures and stats. A picture in one of the chapters shows a map of the US and which foreign country owns each of our states. Also check out all the links, such as "NDU" which is NATIONAL DEFENSE UNIVERSITY. http://www.ndu.edu/inss/sa98/sa98cont.html Michael DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] June: CHRISTMAS WISHES
-Caveat Lector- Very interesting discussion. It reminds me of the "investigator" who discovered that the famous photo of John-John saluting as his father's body - resting on the hose-drawn caisson - passed him. The investigator discovered that John-John was actually saluting a serviceman [I can't remember which branch]. My reaction then is the same as it is today: TMI [TOO MUCH INFORMATION!] Most people who are fairly well-read are fully aware of the pagan history behind the various "holidays," however that doesn't mean we need to turn into Scrooge at the mention of Jesus. I am also aware of the root of the word "holiday," however y'all are missing my point: Why do newscasters always refer to Ramadan and Hannakah as "Religious observances," while Christian observances are always "holidays?" Isn't that their bugaboo, "discrimination?" Secondly, please don't blame Mike. He didn't write that note [Lord, you would think it was an attack on the US Constitution or Old Glory!]. He simply was included in sending everybody his SINCERE wishes for a happy and blessed season. Understand something: We come from the old school, when it was considered GOOD to wish people well - and WE ARE NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT. NOR DO WE WISH TO BE! We are not attacking. Why are you? P.S. I was including Hannakuh for the benefit of our Jewish friends - and they generally celebrate throughout December - just as the Christians and people of other faiths do. Mercy! Are we still in America? Or is it now Amerika? Hilary Thomas wrote: -Caveat Lector- A quick tour of churches in Britain will clarify any confusion on the subject. Most churches are built on top of pagan "hot spots." Hilary -Original Message- From: Edward Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 26, 1998 10:48 AM Subject: [CTRL] June: CHRISTMAS WISHES -Caveat Lector- June: Excellent post! Very few people are aware of the pagan origins of modern Christian observances such as Christ-Mass. (Everyone should check out the origin of the use of Christmas trees!) Your words are, as usual, brilliantly enlightening in a non-threatening manner. Someone should take lessons from you :-) BTW, wasn't there a study some years ago pertaining to the calculation of Christ's birth around the Roman census--purportedly between January and April? Edward On Fri, 25 Dec 1998, MShrum wrote: Remember, contrary to what the advertisers and the media would have you believe, this is not a "holiday." It is a religious observance [the term they always use for our Arab friends: Ramadan]. Christmas is to honor the birth of the Christ child. Well, to begin with, the term 'holiday' comes from the contraction of the word 'holy day', so your objection to the word is meaningless. Secondly, there is NOTHING about December 25th that has ANYTHING to do with the birth of Jesus the Christ, except that the Roman Catholic church decided to put a 'Christian' veneer on pre-existing pagan celebrations of the season... Evidence points to either a spring or an early autumnal birthdate for Jesus the Christ (currently, spring is favored in scholarly circles, based on a comet which would have been visible in the spring of 5 BCE... but other evidence in the past has been used to argue for an early autumn birthdate)... Either way, the beginning of winter could NOT have been the actual birth date of Jesus the Christ...it was a date that fell in the middle of the ancient Roman Saturnalia...it was also the date the followers of Mithras claimed was the birthdate of Mithras...and it also roughly corresponded with the Yule festivities of the pagan northern European tribes.. So the Church, after centuries of trying to BAN Christians from participating in the various early winter festivals of their particular geographical area, adopted an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude, and 'allowed' the festivals to continue, as long as the participants put a 'Christian' interpretation to things...hence, holly was explained to represent Christ's crown of thorns, etc. But you would have been hard-pressed to find anything resembling our modern holiday...even more hard-pressed to find anything representing a RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCE, other than a possible midnight Mass (which gave the name to the holiday, e.g. "Christ's Mass")...most festivities more closely resembled modern-day Mardi Gras, with people dressing in costume, and a wild, licentious, lascivious time being enjoyed by all... EASTER is the main holiday of the Christian church, the observance which gives the religion it's whole meaning, and not Christmas... HAPPY HANNAKAH AND A VERY BLESSED CHRIS
[CTRL] CHRISTMAS WISHES
-Caveat Lector- Dear Friend, I want to wish you a very, VERY blessed Christmas and New Year! I have stumbled on something very serious and important and I must take a few days off to pursue it. I will be returning with my findings in the next JOSHUA REPORT on Tuesday, January 5th, 1999. Until then, Mike and I would like to extend to you our love and prayers that you and yours will have a happy and safe season. Remember, contrary to what the advertisers and the media would have you believe, this is not a "holiday." It is a religious observance [the term they always use for our Arab friends: Ramadan]. Christmas is to honor the birth of the Christ child. So, til January 5th, have a: HAPPY HANNAKAH AND A VERY BLESSED CHRISTMAS! MIKE The OUTLAWLADY DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hillary smacks Bill
http://www.drudgereport.com/ DRUDGE REPORT THU DEC 24, 1998 16:08:55 UTC REPORT: WHITE HOUSE FIGHT; SECRET SERVICE PULLS FURIOUS FIRST LADY OFF PRESIDENT Hillary Clinton has finally snapped! The NATIONAL ENQUIRER is set to report in its January 5, 1999 edition: The First Lady has physically attacked the President, hitting him so hard she left a visible mark on his face -- and Secret Service agents had to separate them. The DRUDGE REPORT trusts the account to be accurate and non-libelous because the NATIONAL ENQUIRER and President Bill Clinton use the same law firm, Williams Connolly! In fact, Clinton's private lawyer, David Kendall, has directly done work for the tabloid through the years. "Keep that bitch away from me!" Bill Clinton told one Secret Service agent. One inside source tells the ENQUIRER that the White House became a battleground since the impeachment controversy moved into overdrive. "The verbal fights between Bill and Hillary have been escalating and now the President has been physically assaulted." "Hillary just snapped. She lost it and smacked the President upside the head. He was stunned. The hit was so hard it left a visible bruise, and he put on makeup for several days to cover the red spot." The DRUDGE REPORT has learned that the ENQUIRER is planning to run the account in a Cover Page Screamer. "Secret Service agents had to physically separate them to keep the apart. Hillary went off to another room. At one point the President old an agent, 'Keep that bitch away from me. I don't want to do anything that'll get me in more trouble." The ENQUIRER reveals that just hours before the couple walked out of the White House holding hands after the impeachment vote on December 19, there was an explosion in the Presidential quarters -- the First Lady was doing most of the screaming. The tabloid also claims that Bill Clinton is back on the fast food train! "The President is a mess. He's been gorging on fast foods again," an insider tells the ENQUIRER in the special report. Impacting on newsstands next monday.
Re: [CTRL] The Joshua Report
-Caveat Lector- How so? The OUTLAWLADY Stopforth, Jamie wrote: -Caveat Lector- This report is farfetched. The 7 mystery kings, 1 is fallen and 1 is left, is all in Daniel. Babylon Assyria Persia Greece Rome Revived Rome I'm leaving one out, but I don't know which one. The mystery kings are much BIGGER than little ole Clinton and Hillary. Jamie File: Column12.txt DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Polls?
-Caveat Lector- What makes me so damn mad about these polls is the first one that came out that put Klinton up to 72% was from 519 people polled with a 4.5% error margin and they lead all the people on like they polled everyone in america. Michael Stopforth, Jamie wrote: -Caveat Lector- Great post Edward! This whole poll thing gets to me. I like the way J.C. Watts put it in his speech Saturday morning... If this nation was a nation governed by polls, women may still not have voting rights and we would still have slavery. Jamie All: First, let me say that I do not dispute the results of these latest polls regarding Clinton. I do, however have questions regarding the general stock we Americans put in them: 1. At what time of day are these polls taken and what segment of the population isnormally polled the most: those at home, work or school? a. What portion of the United States is represented with respect to these polls? b. Is there any particular geographical location within the United States that is polled more than others? 2. Do any of the above factors have any influence on the outcome of polls? 3. If so, can these factors be manipulated to prove the argument of one side or another on any particular issue? 4. Why, then, should Americans trust polls? I, for instance, could argue that most Americans were FOR the impeachment of Clinton on the basis of the results of regional polls taken by one of the local TV stations, which typically come out in favor of his impeachment by a margin of two to one (WXIA TV; Atlanta, GA as of 12-20-98). 5. If, as I contend, polls are intrinsically untrustworthy, why do we rely on them almost exclusively as a reflection of the true "pulse" of the nation? Edward []===[] "Go for goats, Bill. They don't talk." Yasser Arafat http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet. Subscribe to Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 []===[] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Title Change!
-Caveat Lector- Excuse me, Ms Shipton, but the Louisiana Purchase was made AFTER this country was settled. Please do not lecture me on "studying my history." That is all I do, night and day! As for this not being a Christian nation - I refer you to the Supreme Court's ruling in CHURCH OF THE HOLY TRINITY v. U.S. ; 143 U.S. 457, 458 (1892): "No purpose of action against religion can be imputed to any legislation, state or national, because this is a religious people...This is a CHRISTIAN nation... "This is a religious people. This is historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation. The commission to Christopher Columbus...[recited] that: "...it is hoped that by GOD's assistance some of the continents and islands in the ocean will be discovered...The first colonial grant made to Sir Walter Raleigh in 1584...and the grant authorizing him to enact statues for the government of the proposed colony provided that "they not be against the true CHRISTIAN faith..." [Emphasis mine] The FIRST charter of Virginia, granted by King James I in 1606...commenced the grant in these words: "...in propagating of CHRISTIAN RELIGION to such People as yet live in Darkness..." and finally, from the MAYFLOWER COMPACT: "Having undertaken for the Glory of GOD, and advancement of the CHRISTIAN faith...a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia..." I suggest you might want to get a copy of THE MYTH OF SEPARATION by David Barton - Wallbuilder Press 1992 Godspeed! The OUTLAWLADY L. Shipton wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: MShrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 4:03 PM Subject: [CTRL] Title Change! Excuse me BUT the America's did not only belong to England or to the settlers from the Mayflower. Study history. We brought the Louisiana Purchase from France. France sold the Louisiana Purchase to America not to England. America is not a Christian, Jewish, or any other nation. Our symbol is the Eagle - it is not the Cross or the Hebrew Star or any other. Laura DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Did You Know 11 pt1
Vol I No. 11 DID YOU KNOW... WORLD CHAOS was CREATED with the HELP of the CLINTONS? "The NATIONAL HATE CRIMES NETWORK (can you say "Gestapo?") will marshal the resources of federal, state and local enforcement, community groups, educators, antiviolence advocates" - President Clinton [1] PART I of 4 WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON ... ELECTED OFFICIAL or CFR APPOINTEE? "Hate speech' and 'hate crime' as legal categories usher in the concept of political crime - AS UNAMERICAN A PROPOSITION AS THERE CAN BE. America's survival depends on the unequivocal rejection of political crime." [2] (Balint Vazsonyi lived in Hungary under Nazi rule and later Communist dictatorship.) "'Bill Clinton's ties to the intelligence community go back all the way to Oxford and come forward from there,' says a former government official who claims to have seen files LONG SINCE DESTROYED..." [3] Back in the 60s, the CIA began an intelligence operation called 'OPERATION CHAOS.' Chaos was set up to recruit American students as informants and place provocateurs among the demonstrators. " 'Get me some COMMIE MONEY AND ORGANIZERS behind this student shit,' Lyndon Johnson had ordered during a session of his fateful Tuesday Lunch with national security advisors. The CIA swiftly obliged, using front organizations and foundations that ALREADY OPERATED ILLEGALLY WITHIN THE UNITED STATES and sending out a circular cable by its own channel to station chiefs all over Europe - especially in countries where there were increasingly conspicuous colonies of draft resisters, such as Sweden - to target and penetrate student antiwar movements abroad more aggressively than ever, employing American students themselves as prime sources and de facto agents. "According to at least two former agency station chiefs and two more deputies, who received the instructions and directed such covert operations, the inducements for the young informers ranged from cash payments to HELP WITH LOCAL DRAFT BOARDS and even PROMISED DEFERMENTS to more general and sweeping proffers of future help and influence with careers. 'I could get them some money and accomodations if they needed it and see that Selective Service stayed off their backs,' said one former CIA officer...'The Rhodes and Fulbrights and others were going to be important folks someday, and they knew the advantage of helping out.' " [4] We know that Clinton worked for Senator Fulbright and went to Oxford on a Rhodes scholarship. OXFORD is a bed of SOCIALISM, chosen by Sir Cecil Rhodes as heir to his millions for a scholarship fund. The recipients were to be future world leaders, willing to aid in a world takeover: "In his book [TRAGEDY AND HOPE: A HISTORY OF THE WORLD IN OUR TIME] (author Carroll) Quigley described in great detail the creation of a 'secret society' [he called it the 'SOCIETY OF THE ELECT' and based it on the Jesuit system] the Cecil Rhodes-led group sought 'nothing less than to create A WORLD SYSTEM OF FINANCIAL CONTROL IN PRIVATE HANDS ABLE TO DOMINATE THE POLITICAL SYSTEM OF EACH COUNTRY AND THE ECONOMY OF THE WORLD as a whole'...later [Rhodes] launched the Rhodes Scholar program described by Quigley...as 'MERELY A FACADE TO CONCEAL THE SECRET SOCIETY.' Quigley related that a key accomplishment of this secret society was the creation of 'Institutes of International Affairs in the British dominion nations and in the United States [where it is known as the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS (CFR)]...' [5] "...Introduced to the world of the 'secret society' by Quigley, Bill Clinton successfully sought acceptance as a Rhodes Scholar. [In addition to Quigley, Clinton also received help in this from Senator Fulbright - for whom he had worked beginning in the spring of 1965] He spent two years in the program (1968-70), some of it organizing protests throughout Europe against America's military and the U.S. effort in Vietnam - EVEN WHILE IT WAS RAGING!" [6] "The ROUND TABLE of the legend of King Arthur and his Knights...is strictly a British M16 intelligence operation established by the COMMITTEE OF 300 which, together with the Rhodes Scholarship program, is a dagger in the heartland of America. [It] was established in South Africa [in 1902] by Cecil Rhodes and funded by the English Rothschild family...The express purpose of the Round Table, after swallowing up South Africa, was to blunt the benefits to the United States of the American War of Independence, and once more bring the United States under British control...Using SCOTTISH RITE FREEMASON principles in selecting members of the Round Table, those chosen underwent a period of intense training at CAMBRIDGE and OXFORD Universities under the watchful eyes of John Ruskin, a self-confessed 'old school communist' [Rhodes was a student of Ruskin, a socialist
[CTRL] Did You Know 10 pt2
Vol I No. 10 DID YOU KNOW... AMERICA'S SOVEREIGNTY HANGS ON THE OUTCOME of the IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS? "Imagine a Boot Stamping on Your face...Forever" PART II Are YOU Already Under Socialist Rule? "While THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF THE GLOBAL ELITE IS A WORLD SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT resulting from a dialectical process, currently what we are experiencing is perhaps best characterized as 'MULTINATIONAL CORPORATISM.' Not yet SOCIALISM (where government owns at least key industries such as rails, utilities, banking, etc.), and not quite FASCISM (where government controls at least key industries via regulations, etc.), 'multinational corporatism' is where large multi-national corporations (e.g., Archer-Daniels-Midland) contribute to key politicians (e.g., Bob Dole), who ram through legislative bodies (e.g., Congress) such things as GATT even though polls show about 80% of the public oppose it." [1] Although Dr. Dennis Cuddy is one of my heroes, in this case I strongly disagree with the above statement. Granted, it may have been true at the time he wrote this, but I also think it possible that Dr. Cuddy may have become so immersed in his very thorough research and extremely authoritative writings on education, that he has not investigated the list of EXECUTIVE ORDERS that have been issued so prolifically throughout this administration [these are no longer restricted to the President - or even the executive branch. Today, any agency can do this, the mandates of the US Constitution notwithstanding!]. Do I REALLY believe this is a Fascist and EXTREMELY DANGEROUS administration? You bet! Let's take a closer look at it: "Hillary Rodham Clinton is not just co-President of the United States - SHE'S THE REAL POWER IN WASHINGTON, D.C..." So, who is our "REAL" President? Just three months after her husband took the oath of office [she DIDN'T], she accepted an interview with PARADE magazine, in which she was asked to discuss the people in her life who inspired her the most. After a bit, she was asked about her favorite writers. Her answer tells us volumes not only about her, but also her agenda for AMERICA: In the article, she claimed to be "fascinated" by Aldous Huxley's BRAVE NEW WORLD and George Orwell's 1984! In case you are unfamiliar with these two books, they both describe in terrifying detail a world enslaved by a totalitarian government, consisting of a handful of tyrannical super-wealthy elitists. Terrorism, torture, mandatory drugs, mind-control and a government taboo on any acknowledgement of GOD are their hallmarks. In both cases, everybody works for the government [i.e., the elite], except a small criminal element, who are permitted to live "free" in a ghetto on the outskirts of town, because they provide certain "services" to the state. Hillary admits that these are the books which "MOST INFLUENCED HER POLITICAL THINKING!" [2] We are going to get back to this little lady - along with her First Man and her cabinet in a future column! "In essence, the masses are deprived of the individual liberties afforded them by capitalism...[while being] subject to all of the ravages of early industrial era capitalism such as the huge industrial monopolies, the aggregation of capital in the hands of a small group of the elite, as well as the low pay and squalid working conditions described in Charles Dickens' writings. These must also endure the oppressive, brainwashing, all-seeing 'BIG BROTHER' of George Orwell's 1984. It is a new paradigm, cloaked in the garments of a 'centrist' and a 'moderate,' proclaiming the glories of the coming millennium, while CONCEALING THE HEART AND INTENT OF A BLOOD-THIRSTY BEAST OF PREY." [3] Mercy! Sounds like modern-day America, doesn't it? "The DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA (DSA) is the largest socialist organization in the United States, and THE PRINCIPAL U.S. AFFILIATE OF THE SOCIALIST INTERNATIONAL. DSA's members are building progressive movements for social change while ESTABLISHING AN OPENLY SOCIALIST PRESENCE IN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES AND POLITICS...DSA is working with the Congressional Progressive Caucus...The Progressive Caucus of the US House of Representatives is made up of 58 members of the House..." [4] "DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA (DSA), for the first time since the First World War brought together the various splinters of left opinion in America: former SOCIALISTS and COMMUNISTS, former OLD LEFTISTS and NEW LEFTISTS, and many who had never been leftists at all. The decades of disunion had taken their toll. The hundreds of thousands of Debs's day had dwindled to mere thousands. But a new beginning now seems possible in the 1990s..." [5] "Our military budget can be reduced substantially and permanently...I believe that tepid cuts in military spending will produce the worst of all economic worlds - reduced job opportunities
[CTRL] Nuke Waste Dump in Australia
Yahoo News Tuesday December 8, 1:12 PM Clinton adviser urges Australia to consider being world's nuclear dump. SYDNEY, Dec 8 (AFP) - Australia should consider an international plan to become a dumping ground for the world's nuclear waste, a top adviser to US President Bill Clinton said Tuesday, drawing immediate protests from environmentalists. Australia is in a unique position because of its geography and political stability to help the world solve the problem of where to store nuclear waste from bombs dismantled at the end of the Cold War, according to Clinton's special envoy on weapons of mass distruction, Robert Gallucci. "If Australia could appreciate the concept and decide it was in the national interest there would be enormous benefits for the world," he told The Australian newspaper. Australia was one of the few places in the world with the political and geological stability necessary for such a sensitive gatekeeping job, Galluci said. But environmentalists objected Tuesday, saying saddling Australia with the world's nuclear waste was short-sighted. "The government of Australia has only been around for 99 years," Larry O'Loughin, a campaigner for the Australian Conservation Foundation, told AFP. "It's a very optimistic outlook to say Australia's going to have a stable political outlook for 200,000 years. That's just farcical." Galluci, dean of the prestigious Georgetown University school of foreign service, said he had met Australian prime minister John Howard earlier this year but said they had not discussed the issue of nuclear waste. The Australian government has denied holding ministerial talks with the US on a possible waste dump and has offered no public support for the plan, a move that would draw the immediate ire of environmentalists. But the Clinton adviser said the White House had been briefed on an US company's proposal to establish a massive nuclear waste dump in remote parts of Australia's west and south, a plan he backed. "I don't think the US government is officially aware but there have been informal discussions about an approach to the Australian government at various levels," he told the newspaper. "Australia could play a pretty unique role if Australia was willing to do it." A video tape issued by Seattle-based Pangea promoting the idea of a massive Australian dump was leaked to Australian environmentalists last week, forcing the company to go public with its plans. According to the company, only two countries in the world -- Argentina and Australia -- have the needed stable geography and political systems for a nuclear dump like the one it is proposing.
Re: [CTRL] Did You Know 8
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for the suggestion. When I think of the CIA, I think of the old song parody "They're everywhere!" "They're everywhere!" Lady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- The December 2l, l998 issue of THE NATION has a marvelous article by Peter Kornbluh about Pinochet and our part in making his governmental policies. It appears the British are not all fond of him either. There is one spot in the article where a British columnist for THE INDEPENDENT responds to Chileans lobbying for Pinochet's release by writing: "Your beloved general is safe from us. He will not be tortured, stabbed or shot, or have electrodes attached to his genitals. We will not drop him from a helicopter into the sea, kidnap his grandchildren, break his hands or gouge his eyes. Our most vengeful hope is that he and his family may feel--if only for a second--one billionth part of the terrible pain and mental agony that he so pompously and callously visited on others." And our CIA could always chime in just like the kid in the commercials with, "And I helped." There's one observation that the CIA's Santiago station chief, Stuart Burton, maintained "a close relationship: with DINA commander Col. Manuel Contreras. They used to go on SUnday picnics together with their families. It's a humdinger of an article, and I recommend it highly. The Calvin Trillin poem alone is worth the price of the magazine. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om