Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???
-Caveat Lector- E Mael wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Hey, how about a ' strand of DNA ?? and can you tell me where I can purchase, > that elite, high tech-super blood soaking Bronco windshield penetrationg ray > gun?? Probably at the same store as the 'missing piece of luggage, and the Bruno > shoes.thanks..love arguing w/ super intelligent people such as > yourself..Kimberly, keeper of sheep > > > before you knock someone else's cheese; anyone who can be as certain of > anything as you are oj's guilt, without even a strand of real evidence > > crosseyed with this one > > sirhC > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???
-Caveat Lector- > You and Barley - from her name I would conclude she is from somewhere in > the land of sheeple and hangs around with the straw man - right > Ms. Colleen,nope, it isn't nice when people leap to conclusions, that you are a wino, or a racistand as far as my name, it stems from KIMBERLY-Barley.get it ? Has nothing to do w/ animals or strawmen, so you're hopelessly wrong AGAIN!!! So, maybe you could try getting the 'log out of your own eye, before you try to get the stick out of someone else's...sincerely, Kimberly > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???
-Caveat Lector- Mr. William Shannon, Truly you are a gentleman, and you have found me outfor I'm NO racist, and I fear Ms. Colleen has deeply wounded me for even remotely suggesting such a thingand nope, not from Chicago.but, as sure as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.OJ dun it. Barley William Shannon wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Hey Colleen- > > Methinks you're being too rough on Barley, ya' know ya' don't have to be a > racist to think that OJ done it, I KNOW 'cause I'm no racist (doubt seriously > if Barley is either) but, well, she has a point > Probably from Chicago or sumthin'...you know...those nutty easterners... > > Bill > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Barley, > > You must be very bright...probably as smart as Kato is dim.. > > Bill > >>Why, thankyou, truly, you are too kind! Barley > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???
-Caveat Lector- Colleen Jones wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Well go knock on Kato's door, but be sure to rap three times, or they > won't let ou in the lodge. > Colleen,Don't you mean ' knock three times on the ceiling'? and having watched all of Kato's testimony, I find it hard to swallow that he was even close to 'bright enough' to be part of your grand conspiracy theory...Barley > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???
-Caveat Lector- Actually Colleen, I haven't but thank you for asking.but, why not address the issue I raised, which is that OJ is not a stereotypical African American, and w/ the MONSTROUS AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE against him I find it hard to believe you can actually reach the conclusions that you have...me thinks you are reaching for the moon, which by the way is not made of cheese, in case you were wondering.in all sincerity, Barley Colleen Jones wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Okay barley. threshed any blackmen lately > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] O.J. ???
-Caveat Lector- Colleen Jones wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > O.J.'s only fault was that he was black.. >> Spare me Colleen, OJ was about as black as my white computer screen sincerely Barley > > > wcolleen > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Could Noah's Flood Return (2) - The Future Could Be Now
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Clearly any reasonable person knows that "Noah's Flood" is a fiction as is the > bible, nothing more than > silly mythology. > Can't we rise above superstition and deal with the real world? > > Bill > Wow, I must be totally unreasonable then...I thought science had proven that the entire earth had been covered w/ water at one time...better to believe Darwin I guess, oh, that's right, Darwin himself didn't even believe his own silly theory perhaps, Bill is willing to share his theories..?? Sincerely, silly Barley > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Now, Forfeiture for Non-Drug-Related Charges
-Caveat Lector- Me thinks J2's the one in need of 500 mgs. of Thorazine... PuhleezeBarley nurev wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Kris Millegan wrote: > > > > -- > > > > Subject: Now, Forfeiture for Non-Drug-Related Charges > > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:14:11 EST > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > NYC Seizes Cars in DWI Crackdown > > > > NEW YORK (AP) -- A city crackdown on drunken drivers began with the seizure of > > at least two cars. > > > > New York is the first municipality in the nation to seize the vehicles of > > motorists arrested on drunken driving charges as a way to reduce the number of > > deaths on roadways. > > > > Motorists with a blood alcohol level of 0.10 percent -- the state's legal > > limit for driving -- or higher will have their vehicles seized on the spot. > > While the motorist faces prosecution in criminal court, the vehicle seizure > > will be part of a separate proceeding in civil court under state forfeiture > > laws. > > > > And because civil proceedings require only a preponderance of evidence for a > > verdict -- rather than guilt beyond a reasonable doubt -- motorists acquitted > > of drunken driving in criminal court may still lose their cars in civil court. > > > > Civil libertarians have attacked the new policy as excessive and vowed to > > challenge it in court. Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said he is confident the plan > > will hold up in court. > > > > One car was seized Sunday and one today. Officer Theresa Farello, a police > > department spokeswoman, could not immediately explain why a car was seized > > Sunday evening, 1 1/2 hours before the program was to start at midnight. > > Well...maybe they were a little overeager. But what a great idea! It > probably > won't hold up in court. Too bad. > > I don't think much of Republican fascists, but if Hizonner pulls this > off, > I'll donate to his next campaign. Whatever that might be. > > Drunk Drivers - Take their cars, takes their homes, take their wives, > take > their children, take away thier freedom, and if they > kill > someone.. take their life. Then sue the liquor > industry. > > Good thing I"M not mayor of New York eh? > > Joshua2 > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Now, Forfeiture for Non-Drug-Related Charges]
-Caveat Lector- Sorry, Bob, If someone borrows your car, gets drunk/DUI ect. you are in no way responsible for that, you would have to be psychic to know ahead of timeand that is not what is taught in AABesides you don't get your vehicle back if you win the criminal case, then you have to beat the civil casewhich takes money, which you have to make, while trying to hitchhike to work all because someone got a DUI in your vehicle.besides this isn't being done to protect anyone TEO is right it's about GREED/MONEYand control. Barley Robert Tatman wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Teo One Thousand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > In a message dated 2/23/99 11:43:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > writes: > > > > << One car was seized Sunday and one today. Officer Theresa Farello, a > police > > department spokeswoman, could not immediately explain why a car was seized > > Sunday evening, 1 1/2 hours before the program was to start at midnight. > > >> > > > > Easy, GREED. I still find it absolutely absurd that people in the > mainstream > > are not jumping all over this. It is an obvious conflict of interest, not > to > > mention a violation of the right to property and it's free use, and the > > concept of innocent until proven guilty. Asset forfeiture of any kind is > > totally repugnant to me. > > Teo1000 > > > Teo, I gotta disagree on this. I have absolutely no sympathy for the idiots > who endanger other people--who "spoil someone else's day forever," as my wife > puts it--by driving drunk or high. Taking their cars away immediately, and > *keeping* the cars until there's a verdict in the case instead of putting them > right back out on the street, makes eminent good sense, and I am amazed that > no one thought of it before. And if somebody borrows your car, gets drunk, and > smashes into someone else, damn right you're as responsible as the drunk > driver, and you deserve to have your car confiscated. Philadelphia is cracking > down on uninsured motorists--no insurance, no car--and these DUI confiscations > are a simple matter of public safety. Okay, somebody was hasty and jumped the > gun...but that does not invalidate the concept by any means. I don't like a > lot of what Giuliani has done, but this is a good idea. > > BTW, just to declare my prejudices, I am a recovering alcoholic. I know damn > well that there is *no* excuse for driving drunk. It's not a matter of > personal choice--it's a matter of personal sanity, and of recognizing that > whatever you may choose to do with your own life, no way can you be allowed to > impose that personal choice on other people without their consent. If you're > going to get drunk, take a cab. Or walk. But *don't* drive yourself. Commit > suicide if you want...but don't take someone else with you, because that's > what drunk driving amounts to. > > Bob > > = > Robert F. Tatman > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. > > NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed >without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included >information for research and educational purposes. For > more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > > POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED >COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL >RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. > > > More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at >http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == C
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Now, Forfeiture for Non-Drug-Related Charges
-Caveat Lector- Hey, does this mean if a friend got a DUI in your car, it would be siezed? Is this Constitutional??? Snoowl don't you live in NY ? What's going on? Sincerely Barley Kris Millegan wrote: > > > Subject: Now, Forfeiture for Non-Drug-Related Charges > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:14:11 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > NYC Seizes Cars in DWI Crackdown > > NEW YORK (AP) -- A city crackdown on drunken drivers began with the seizure of > at least two cars. > > New York is the first municipality in the nation to seize the vehicles of > motorists arrested on drunken driving charges as a way to reduce the number of > deaths on roadways. > > Motorists with a blood alcohol level of 0.10 percent -- the state's legal > limit for driving -- or higher will have their vehicles seized on the spot. > While the motorist faces prosecution in criminal court, the vehicle seizure > will be part of a separate proceeding in civil court under state forfeiture > laws. > > And because civil proceedings require only a preponderance of evidence for a > verdict -- rather than guilt beyond a reasonable doubt -- motorists acquitted > of drunken driving in criminal court may still lose their cars in civil court. > > Civil libertarians have attacked the new policy as excessive and vowed to > challenge it in court. Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said he is confident the plan > will hold up in court. > > One car was seized Sunday and one today. Officer Theresa Farello, a police > department spokeswoman, could not immediately explain why a car was seized > Sunday evening, 1 1/2 hours before the program was to start at midnight. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A Simple Poll
-Caveat Lector- Bill Richer wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Dear Friends: > What Political Party do you belong to? > > Republican Democrat __x__ Other > > Do you consider yourself? > > __x__ Conservative Liberal Moderate > >Do you believe that President Clinton is Guilty? > > __x__ Yes No > >Do you believe he should have been removed from office? > > __x__ Yes No > > Any further Comments: > The dog turns back to his own vomit, and the sow is washed only to wallow in the > mire... > Please fill these questions out ASAP and send back to me and I'll send results > out later? > > God Bless > Bill > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Can You Tele the Tubby
-Caveat Lector- Samatha 'Smith' wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 99-02-14 22:36:01 EST, you write: > > << .The > Bridegroom is talking about > Christ and the Bride is those people who worship him..As far as what you > wrote about King James.prove it prove it, or shaddup, already...Barley >> > > That Christ is talking about Christ and the Bride (the Church) is an > inerpretation, not a fact. It is aWIDELY held belief..As for > Catholicism is not traditional Christianity, I don't know what you mean as > pertaining to my post, but my Bible IS a Catholic Bible and it has the two > books: Wisdom and Ecclesiasticus -- which indicate and imply that Wisdom, the > Holy Spirirt, is female. > Shadding up now, > Samantha > I was simply objecting to Catholicism being called traditional Christianity because it has strayed far from itsee(Foxes Book of Martyrs) .As far as this debateit probably comes under Teo's list of Taboo subjects, so I must gracefully bow outhowever, feel free to write me, if you wantSincerely Barley > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Can You Tele the Tubby
-Caveat Lector- Sam, a few things wrong w/ what you wrote..I would not call Catholiscim traditional Christianity as it strayed far from the teachings of Christ (read Foxes Book of Marytrs) Christ was born from immaculate conception (not sex) and if you doubt God's views on homo. read about Sodom and Gomorrah...Revelation is also spelled w/ out an s on the end..The Bridegroom is talking about Christ and the Bride is those people who worship him..As far as what you wrote about King James.prove it prove it, or shaddup, already...Barley Samatha 'Smith' wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 99-02-14 12:58:27 EST, AcharyaS writes: > > << n fact, considering how much emphasis is placed on the male in >patriarchal religion such as Christianity, in which monks are "married >to the Church" and passionate lovers of Christ, it is ironic that >homosexuality is overtly considered a terrible crime, with "those who >have intercourse with males" being viewed as "blasphemers" who cannot >enter into the "kingdom of heaven." Because of the vicious mentality >towards homosexuality, which is purported to originate with the Deity > >"himself," homosexuals were driven to become monastics, in order to >"purify" themselves of their overwhelming, "sinful" desires. >> > > It is odd that traditional Christian religions are offended by the concept > of homosexuality, considering that "The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost" > are all male figures (to them). If God created us in His image, where did the > Son come from? > My Bible has five of the many Apocryphal books which are not part of the > King James version. Two of these, "Wisdom" and "Eccelesiasticus" mention > Wisdom or the Holy Spirit as being female. Of course, King Solomon's, "Song > of Songs" runs with the Bride and Bridegroom theme which is also found in > "Revelations." > If what you quote about King James is true: > > "As related by Otto Scott, King James "was a known homosexual > who murdered his young lovers and victimized countless heretics and > women. His cruelty was justified by his 'divine right' of kings." > > it would make sense that King James would rule out Biblical Books which might > lead one to believe there is a feminine aspect to Divinity. > > My personal understanding of God recognizes that He wouldn't dare tell > anyone what their preferences should be. It is my guess He would also be > offended that a feminine spirit would be left out of this so-called Divinty > equation. I think Pagans have a better grasp of divinity and nature than any > other organized group. > Samantha > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: AEP: Republicans let Clinton off the hook
-Caveat Lector- To Samantha: For some reason it doesn't make it to a court of law, potential witnesses seem to kill themselves, or die in homicides, before that can occur.Question: How many people must end up dead before you catch on? Or are you deliberately obtuse?? Just wondering Barley Samatha 'Smith' wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 99-02-10 07:13:51 EST, you write: > > > >But the Republicans have always been skittish about exposing the > > >dirtiest of Mr Clinton's dirty linen, lest their own (lesser) > > >indiscretions come to light. There is a Washington etiquette in these > > >matters, or put another way: they, too, are "mobbed up". That is why, I > > >believe, they backed away from probing whether Mr Clinton knowingly > > >solicited laundered campaign funds from Chinese military intelligence in > > >exchange for restricted missile technology. > > Is there ANY crime Clinton has not yet been accused of? Didn't Fred > Thompson, R-Tn, chair a committee that examined these allegations? > > We do have an "innocent until proven guilty" standard..remember that > little ol' thing? As I understand it, Dick Thornburgh frustrated Walsh's > investigation into the arms for hostages deal by classifying material to keep > it out of Walsh's hands. I wasn't on this list during the Walsh investigation > (if it even existed then) but I do hope you fine people were squealing and > squawking this loudly then! > > This constant squealing of alarm about all the things Clinton is alleged > to have done reminds me of a saying I came across on the internet once > .(paraphrased)..."If a reliable source puts forth wild allegations, one > may pause to listen. If a wild source puts forth substantiated allegations, > one may pause to listen. If a wild source puts forth wild allegations -- > watch out!" > > There are many things I suspect Reagan and Bush got away with. But I > would fully expect anyone to challenge me with "Prove it!" if I were to list > my suspicions as FACT day after day. > > So, this is what I have to say to you, "PROVE IT!" Prove it in a court of > law! Prove it during in a hearing! Prove it in an impeachment trial! If you > can't prove it, stop asserting these allegations as fact. Or better yet, just > shaddup already! > > Samantha > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] It's true that abortion is legal but, hey, so was the Holoc
-Caveat Lector- Sno0wl wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Dear Mr. Moxley-- > In the past month, the state legislature of NY State awarded themselves raises in the > $20-40k range. The governor, George Pataki, gave his aides $50k raises. Meanwhile > one in four children in NY State live in poverty. People and families cut from the >welfare > rolls, cannot find jobs or cannot find jobs that pay a living wage. > > When that changes, and all children born are well-cared for--or at least given a > reasonable chance at health, personal safety, and education--then I might consider > changing my pro-choice stand. > > When you argue anti-abortion, you are arguing for exponentially increasing the number > of children who will be malnourished, poorly cared for by parents struggling to >merely > survive, and who, in many cases, will swell the ranks of the prison population. (And > yes, Pataki wants to use the budget "surplus" to build new prisons, not to rebuild NY > City's Dickensian schools). So, in essence, you are arguing for prisonsand the >new > slave class. > > I consider myself a feminist. If a woman cannot support and care for a child--or >another > child, as the case may be--then she should have abortion as a choice open to her. > No woman WANTS an abortion but sometimes abortion is the reasonable choice. You > should keep in mind that at least 1/5 of the women who do have abortions are >Catholic. > That's one out of every five. > > sno0wl > So, we can assume from your post that you think if these children were born they would be swelling the prison population and living in poverty? Most women I know who have had an abortion,have had more than one, it has become a form of birthcontrol.As one who 'lives in poverty, and is struggling to survive, I think your arguement is lame, indeed.maybe, so many wouldn't be living in povert if men would pay their child supportThere are countless couples also waiting to adopt childrenI see birth control and abstinance as a far better solution...my opinion for what its worth...Barley > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog
-Caveat Lector- Liz Schumacher wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > its always amazed me that Bill can treat women like ash trays and still have > the Fem support he does. > I agree, Liz it truly makes no sense at allBarley > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!
-Caveat Lector- John Szocik wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > True enough! However, if some sicko didn't think ofthis before, the idea is > now out there for some sick bastard to go ahead and try it out. > People should really think before they dream-up crap like this and then put it > on the net. > JOHN > So, if this comes to pass, then the responsibility lies w/ the person who started this?? Most (sick bastards, serial killers) have an I.Q. of above average, if not genius level and reallywouldn't need help in this matter...my humble opinion...barley > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Party punks
-Caveat Lector- J FROST wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Sorry just have to ask "Where is Libertaria? How far is it, and > how do I get there? > if you can promise me Janet Reno won't be there I might be > interested...hmmm.." > ///Gosh! Mr. Frost it was just a question..J2's answer to every complaint is > that if we don't like it here we should move..He said just like the jews in > Germany did..although a lot of jews didn't make it out j2...Now, Frost are you > calling me stupid or liberal?.If you paid att. to my posts you would find I'm > neither...I can be ignarant sometimes or missinformed, I am > human...Anyway,sincerely...Barley/// > > Because we now have party mobs running the country > Liberals think they can get stupid people to jump out of the > frying pan into the fire. > > "Where is Libertaria?" It is a step toward the Liberterian party. > A bunch of liberal, humanist, atheist, "witches", crystal power, > homosexual, dope supporter ... political party want-a-be s > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scottish Biohazard Researcher Dies Mysteriously
-Caveat Lector- Eric Stewart wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > I believe human waste can be made into building material. Does anyone > know? > Eric > == Actually, they are using cow excrement (compressed) for decking material, I guess it lasts a long time. I'm still partial to redwood though. Barley > Much depends on your diet and if you avoid meat, you are much less > likely to pass on nasty organisms to your adobe mix or your soil. > > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [prj] DOPE SUPPORTERS
-Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > "M. A. Johnson" wrote: > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > Jeremy Brown: > > The point I am trying (in vain, it would appear) to make is that there > > are people in the world who think nothing of starting the day by > > smoking a rock of crack and then driving a school bus. > > > > MJ: > > How exactly is passing a Law which says one cannot 'smoke a rock > > of crack' going to ensure 'people' are NOT going to then 'drive a > > school bus'? > > > > We have discriminatory drunk driving laws currently, but 'people' STILL > > choose this behavior. > > > > Regard$, > > --MJ > > > > Man is born free, and everywhere he is in chains. > > -- Jean-Jacques Rousseau > > A law is like a warning. The law won't stop you from doing the act. > BUT! > If you do the act anyway and get caught, you will be punished for > breaking > the law AND getting caught. Obviously drunk drivers should be jailed > for > a considerable amount of time. Just to make a good impression. > > Since the state licenses you to drive, the state should REVOKE your > license > when you don't follow the law. Yes there are stupid laws on the books, > but > some of them are not. Safety laws are not. > > This is how modern society is organized. If you don't like it, move to > Libertaria. > > Joshua2 > Sorry just have to ask "Where is Libertaria? How far is it, and how do I get there? if you can promise me Janet Reno won't be there I might be interested...hmmm.." Sincerely Barley P.S. "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt" > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] My Defining Moment.(Was Fascism On The Move)
-Caveat Lector- Sno0wl wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > On 5 Feb 99, , kimberly wrote: > > > The American People (including the "compassionate" > > > leftists) shrugged it off > > > and the general comment was "they got what they > > > deserved." > > > > > > Fascism had surely arrived. > > > > > > And it was applauded. > > > flw > Sorry sno owl I didn't write thatI asked what the mathmatical probability was of knowing 85 dead people who had all died by suicide, murder, or plane crashes..Don't worry everyone makes mistakes ...just try harder next timeSincerely Barley > Now, exactly what makes you think it was the "leftists" who "applauded this. > > Seems to me it was the right-wing Conservatives who were most pleased that "justice" > had been done and the "rule of law" had prevailed. > > sno0wl > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Welcome to the Fourth Reich
-Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Mike Moxley wrote: > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > WELCOME TO THE FOURTH REICH > > by Michael J. Woodman > > > > We as a people have ignored and abhorred the truth of this century. We > > have forgotten the Third Reich so we are moving to the brink of the > > fourth Reich. Not in a reunified Germany, but here in America. > > > > In order to have a new world order, one must destroy the independence > > of a free people "for their own good." Today our government has begun > > the destruction of America as a free people. We are being forced to > > register long barrel fire arms in violation of the second amendment > > right to bear arms freely. > > > > They have bridled free speech, free worship and free assembly over the > > past 10 years. Now they bridle the free ownership of weapons of > > defense. First they register your weapons, then they come for them for > > "your own good and the safety of your children." > > > > I am not a member of the gun coalition, nor a member of the NRA, nor a > > member of any militia in any state. I am a defender of the > > constitution and the Bill of Rights. For I am also a student of > > history. > > > > We have passed laws in this land that would have done Stalin and > > Hitler proud. We have aborted human life and now assist people to "die > > with dignity" (suicide, or accurately: murder of self). We have > > legally stopped free speech, especially in the "Hate Crime" laws, > > which will be used against Christians like RICO has been used in > > regard to a scriptural stand on homosexuality, lesbianism and right to > > life. > > > > The skin heads are not real Nazis. They are only want-to-be's. The > > real Nazis sit in the White House and sign laws which they swore an > > oath not to sign. They sit in Congress subverting the constitutional > > obligations while writing laws forbidden by the constitution. > > > > They sit on the Supreme Court rewriting the constitution to fit their > > vision of America. They have created new rights such as abortion and > > uphold laws such as the Brady Bill. > > > > People will scream at this report because they fear their government > > of the people, for the people and by the people. They will say that I > > am wrong in my assessment. They will say that the Brady Bill will > > protect us from the criminals. I don't know of any criminal that > > legally purchased a gun. > > > > In order for the state to collect all the guns from the law-abiding, > > they must first know where the guns are. Therefore pass a national > > registration package so that the national, not the state, nor the > > individual, can control ownership of guns for defense even against the > > current Gestapo, i. e. AT. Both criminals and intolerant governments > > fear one thing: an armed populace. One of the first things Nazi > > Germany did to the people was to disarm them. > > > > If we do not turn this nation around from its present course, then one > > day articles like this one will be illegal. I am not some left-wing > > bomb thrower from the 60s, but a man who took an oath to defend this > > nation and its constitutional form of government from all enemies both > > foreign and DOMESTIC SUCH AS THE CURRENT WHITE HOUSE ADMINISTRATION. > > > > Today we have begun the decent towards the new world order of the > > fourth and final Reich. You can not have a strong citizenship and a > > new world order. It is impossible to build this order with Americans > > owning weapons in their homes. > > > > Wake Up America before some storm trooper bashes your front door down > > by mistake!?!? Wake Up America before some jack-booted ATF Masked man > > hauls you off in the middle of the night. Since this is a new system > > you can be certain that it is Y2K proof. > > > > Wake Up America before the rule the Department of Defense, Interior, > > Education, and Justice. Hate crime laws are unconstitutional. They > > violate free speech and separation of federal and states rights. They > > also violate the double jeopardy clause of the law. > > > > Wake Up America and turn back to true equal justice under the law. 90% > > of the Great Society and New Deal laws and systems need to be scrapped > > and not rellaced with more devious legal traps. It is time to take > > back America or kiss it goodbye forever more. > > - > > This is stupid rhetorical bullshit. > If this clown is so concerned, he can leave the country like the > German > Jews left Hitler's Germany in the 30's. > > J2 > Here is a few facts for J2..Registration and confiscation of pistols and rifles preceded the slaughter of 1,500,000 Christians in Turkey (1915-1917), the slaughter of 20,000,00 farmers and anti-Stalinists in Russia (1929-1953), the slaughter of 300,000 Christians in Uganda (1971-1979), the slaughter of 13,000,000 "non-Aryans" in Germany (1933-1945), the slaughter of 20,000,000 anti-Maoists in China (1949-1986),the slaughter o
[CTRL] [Fwd: Reno: "U.S. officials must match wits with the bad guys!"]
So now if you store food you are a right wing extremist? Barley hm > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carolyn Hart) > Subject: [piml] FBI Director Freeh Warns of Millennium Violence > > Thursday February 4 3:26 PM ET > > FBI Director Freeh Warns Of Millennium Violence > By Patricia Wilson > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - FBI Director Louis Freeh warned Thursday > that right-wing extremists, religious cults or apocalyptic groups could > turn > to violence to fulfill their prophecies of Armageddon as the year 2000 > approaches. > > At a congressional hearing on counter-terrorism, Freeh cited ``rogue > terrorists'' such as Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden -- blamed by > Washington for the bombing of two American embassies in East Africa > last year -- as probably the most urgent risk to U.S. interests. But he > said > the domestic threat could not be ignored, especially as the millennium > approached. > > ``The possibility of an indigenous group like Aum Supreme Truth cannot > be excluded,'' he said, referring to the cult responsible for a nerve > gas > attack in the Tokyo subway system in March, 1995. > > ``With the coming of the next millennium, some religious/apocalyptic > groups or individuals may turn to violence as they seek to achieve > dramatic effects to fulfill their prophecies,'' he said. > > Freeh expressed dismay at a ``pattern of racist elements'' seeping into > the > U.S. militia movement most of which, he said, had no racial overtones > and > did not espouse bigotry. > > But he discussed at length ``a disturbing trend'' toward the > pseudo-religion > of Christian Identity -- and other hate philosophies -- that provided > both a > religious base for racism and anti-Semitism as well as an ideological > rationale for violence against minorities. > > ``Many white supremacist groups adhere to the Christian Identity belief > system, which holds that the world is on the verge of a final > apocalyptic > struggle ... and teaches that the white race is the chosen race of > God,'' he > said. > > Many of those who believe in this credo are engaged in survivalist and > paramilitary training, storing foodstuffs and supplies and caching > weapons > and ammunition. > > Freeh said that as 1999 came to a close, Identity's more extreme > members could prepare for Armageddon by carrying out armed robberies > to finance the upcoming battle, destroying government property and > targeting Jews and non-whites. > > The FBI had ``little credible intelligence'' at this time indicating > that > terrorists, either domestic or international, were preparing to attack > the > United States, the director said. > > But he added that ``a growing number -- while still small -- of 'lone > offender' and extremist splinter elements of right-wing groups have been > identified as possessing or attempting to develop or use'' chemical, > biological or nuclear weapons. > > Attorney General Janet Reno, who also appeared before the Senate > Appropriations subcommittee, said a terrorist attack using a biological > weapon might not be immediately apparent with far-reaching impact on > victims and emergency personnel. > > ``In fact, we have found recently the mere threat of the use of > unconventional weapons can cause concern and panic. Threats to release > harmful biological or chemical substances cannot be ignored,'' she said. > Freeh said the FBI dealt with an ``anthrax warning letter'' somewhere in > the country almost every day. > > U.S. officials had to be able ``to match wits with the bad guys,'' Reno > said. > > She appealed to the Senate panel to approve funds for a National > Domestic Preparedness Office to be led by the FBI to provide > coordination and a single point of contact for state and local > communities. > > http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a36ba3cd55fec.htm
Re: [CTRL] The 'responsibility era' - Texas Gov. George W. Bush talks:
-Caveat Lector- Howard R. Davis III wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Kris Millegan wrote: > > > > > NATIONAL > > The 'responsibility era' > > > > Undeclared GOP presidential frontrunner, Texas Gov. George Bush, talks > > about his cultural plan of attack > > > > By Cal Thomas > > He fears an economic slowdown because of the Federal Reserve's > > "stretching fiscal policy by lowering [interest] rates to the point > > where there > > > > may not be enough incentive for consumption." > > > > Does this make sense to anyone? It seems to me that if the Fed lowers > interest rates there is more money in the economy and thus more > incentive for consumption. Anybody disagree with that? > > Howard Davis > Yes, here's why 40 central banks all over the world hve lowered interst rates and begun to reinflate since Oct. Reinflation is depreciation of money by running the printing presses(25% increase in MZM money supply by the FED.) It is a policy undertaken by gov. and central banks to ward off deflation, debt paralysis, electoral defeat and bear markets. There is a problem however, once major deflation gets going, lowering interest rates and pumping up the money supply doesn't always work. For instance-Japan has had low interest rates for years and it hasn't helped. From mid-sept. to mid-dec., Japan expanded its money supply at an incredible 78.7% annual rate and it did virtually nothing to stop deflation (or start inflation) or to jump-start the economy. Low interest rates don't stop a depression as we found out in the 30s and Japan has learned. They don't stop deflation or solve the excess capacity problem, and they don't make overextended lenders lend more. The creation of several hundred billion dollars (or more) of new liquidity by the FED cannot prop up a 125 trillion dollar debt pyramid-at least not for much longer. Does that help or not? Barley > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] My Defining Moment.(Was Fascism On The Move)
-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > >> J2, Do you really mean what you posted or are > you a > >> victim of MK ULTRA? > >> FLW > > > >I mean what I posted. I spent a brief time in > Greece when > >the Colonels were running it. That was a fascist > state. > >Not Nazi fascism mind you, but fascist none the > less. What > >you have here is nothing like the fear that > people conducted > >their lives under. > > > >These exaggerations are silly. It's like you guys > ( Libertarians > >and Paranoids ) have gone off the deep end. There > are groups in > >this country which face a fascist government > daily in their > >lives. You middle class white guys with computers > are not among > >them yet. > > Do you think Randy Weaver owened a computer Obviously, J2 is the victim of mass brainwashing techniquesWe live in the USSA (united states of search and seizures) Fascism is the blend of gov. and big businessJ2's thoughts sadley enough represent most of the sheep in this country...we must encourage him to think...(a new concept for most people) J2 let me ask you a question "How many people do you know who have been murdered, died in plane crashes, or comitted suicide?" The Clintons know 85 such people...What are the math. odds of that I wonder...ANYONE??? Sincerely Barley > >Chill out. Making you crazy fuckers get a license > for a gun is > >not fascism even if Hitler did it too. > > > >Joshua2 > > Let me tell you something J2. > > How do you know I am a "middle class white guy?" > > You know nothing about my life history. > > I am tired of smug, trendy, leftist stereotypes. > > Do you want to know my defining moment? > > A few years ago, while watching CNN I witnessed > American tanks > smashing, burning, gassing American children, > women, men live on T.V. > > I watched with my mouth open and heart pounding. > At that moment I was > ashamed to be a veteran. I was ashamed to be an > American. > > Shortly after, the corporate media and our > esteemed "leaders"basically > applauded this mini holocaust. The Attorney > General of the United States, > the nation's chief law enforcement officer, > proudly took credit for this mass > murder. > > The American People (including the "compassionate" > leftists) shrugged it off > and the general comment was "they got what they > deserved." > > Fascism had surely arrived. > > And it was applauded. > flw > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS
-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 2/4/99 3:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > << Why > > blame the little addict when it's the gov. pushing in the first place??My > humble > opinion as it is.hmmm... > >> > > Excellent point lost in the shuffle by some probably! > Teo1000 > Why thank you, did you catch my grave error in stating that MT didn't have an opencontainer law? Well, I was wrong, I guess that's changed...and a speed limit is coming our way soon.but the bars here still give go cups as you walk out the door..make sense?? barley > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] YOUR BANKER AS SNOOP:
-Caveat Lector- Carl Amedio wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > YOUR BANKER AS SNOOP: > > Snoops and Spies - George Orwell had it right in his dystopia novel Nineteen > Eighty-Four, but he missed it by a decade. Big Brother wants bankers to create > a dossier on every account holder. And a federal regulatory proposal dubbed > "Know Your Customer" could do just that by turning bank tellers into snoops. > If it sounds like something out of the X-Files, it isn't. Look for it at a > bank near you. . . . . your trusted banker has been enlisted by Big Brother > to help him watch every financial move you make. . . . . the rule published > Dec. 7, Pearl Harbor Day, in the Federal Register calls for uniform banking > procedures to identify customers, establish their sources of money, note their > "normal and expected transactions," watch for transactions that are > inconsistent with the customer's "normal and expected transactions," report > any transactions that are determined to be suspicious and place limitations on > amounts that can be withdrawn at any one time . . . . . The regulators say > Know Your Customer snooping is for your own good. . .. . . > It seems I just read that this "know your customer", just got squashed, anyone? > But we must always keep watch as I'm sure they'll try to slip it in again > sometime. > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**
-Caveat Lector- Brown, Jeremy wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > MJ, > >I admit I'm quite puzzled by your post. You say that I'm afraid of > freedom, however you have produced nothing to support that claim. What I am > afraid of is that more people, like my friend, will die because we all sit > by plucking daisies and turning our heads to something we can work together > to prevent. Also, you have said that a potential is not a crime. You're > right, but..(this may shock you)...DRUNK DRIVING IS It's illegal! You > can't even have an open container in the car with you. That's the issue. > And, again, I'll try and explain it to you in simple terms. I agree that if > what you do does not harm anyone but yourself, by all means do it until you > drop dead. That was not what I am saying. I'm saying that when your actions > have negative impacts on those around you it becomes a problem. So please, > everybody...stop thinking that I'm challenging freedom. I'm not! I'm only > saying that there have been far to many good people cut down by drunk > drivers. Something needs to be done. And, MJ, for you to even use the term > "discrimination" in the same sentence as drunk driving is downright > offensive. > > Jeremy > > > -Original Message- > >I'm sorry have to interject and tell you, you can have an open container in the > car in the state of mont. the bars even give go cups.I still object to the > seat belt law,even if it does save lives..why aren't they in school buses > barley h.. > > From: M. A. Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 3:20 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS** > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > Brown, Jeremy wrote: > > The issue I was raising was that once you get behind the wheel of a > > car, > > you have now brought people into the equation who did not ask to be > > a > > part of your choices or actions. > > > > MJ: > > When ANYONE gets in a car they *COULD* kill others -- whether they > > are drunk, drugged, LACK ABILITY, EXHAUSTED or otherwise. > > A potential is NOT a crime. > > > > Why the FEAR of freedom? > > > > > > Brown, Jeremy wrote: > > I never EVER said that the government could or should be able to > > dictate what we as individuals choose to do or not do. > > > > MJ: > > You JUST did above by supporting 'drunk driving' discrimination. > > > > > > ANY crime which does NOT involve the violation of another's property > > *IS* merely an exercise in control, serves to provide legislated advantage > > to one or more persons and/or a revenue source for the State. > > > > > > Regard$, > > --MJ > > > > Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their > > property that they may more perfectly respect it. -- G. K. Chesterton > > > > Government has no other end but the preservation of Property. > > -- John Locke > > > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > > == > > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting > > propagandic > > screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid > > matters > > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and > > outright > > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor > > effects > > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to > > readers; > > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > > nazi's need not apply. > > > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > > > Archives Available at: > > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Om > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS
-Caveat Lector- J FROST wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > One writes: > > The Drug War is marketed as the only way to "save our children." Yet, > eighty > years into the most protracted and expensive experiment in Prohibition in > history, illicit drugs are more available on the streets, on our > playgrounds, > and in our school yards than ever. What are the real consequences of > these > disastrous policies? Click on any topic at right to learn more about > what's > gone wrong, and how we can fix it. > > Prohibition is the problem. You can be part of the solution. Join DRCNet > today, and SAY NO to the Drug War -- your voice makes a difference. >drug-related HIV/AIDS and needle exchange > kids and the drug war > chronic pain management > people of color and the drug war > drug treatment > medicinal marijuana > more coming soon! > === > Why not make robbery, rape and murder legal. > /// > Because those are crimes against persons...I am arguing for > decriminalizing victimless crimes... > \\\ > When women are raped by those in a stupor > When people are killed in wrecks by those in a stupor > When dopers are in a stupor robbing and killing people > are there no victims? > === > It is not legal to be drunk and drive? > > Of course it is illegal to be drunk and driving but > after one becomes drunk, they get in a stupor and their > logic/fears/reflexes are lost. Their fear of being caught > drunk or doped up .. their common sense is lost... > so because it was legal for them to get drunk, they > got in a stupor and because they got in a stupor > * It cost the rest of us money out of our pockets to pay >for their stupor. > * It cost injury and death to thousands of innocent each > year for their right to be in a stupor. > > Victimless crimes? > * Tell me why non drunks have to pay billions of dollars > for extra cops to catch and lock up drunks (who are involved >in legal dope) > * Tell me why innocent people killed by drunks aren't victims? > * Tell me why the families of innocent victims are not victims of > drunks? > > > Legal drunks ... Legal dope users so then the government > makes their slaughter, assaults, rapes legal ? > /// > Most rapes, etc., are NOT done by drunks...or by dope users... > \\\ > Duh, did you miss 48 hours last week. What amount of rapes > did they reveal happened while the pervert was in a stupor? > > and the statistics on all the criminals in prison, 80% of them > were stupid on booze/dope when they committed their crimes. > = > So you ARE arguing for reinstution of Prohibition, aren't you? Just come > out and admit it. > /// > NO, prohibition could never work in a government in which the politicians > are mob bosses on the take. > The only way prohibition would ever work is by having the death penalty > for drunks/dope users and the death penalty for those who get rich > defending > them. > With in a year there would be about 2000 executions and after perverts > knew they could not get away with it or buy their way out of it, it would > become > almost non existent. > After that time the perverts would stop killing themselves and innocent > victims. > With in 10 years there would be over 15 times more lives saved than those > executed. > NO, I am not stupid enough to think it will ever happen in a corrupt > government > in which the perverts have their rights at the loss of the rights of the > innocent. > I know innocent people will never have their rights in America, I only > point out > that perverts and their bleeding hearts are an evil force in an evil > nation. > > It does not matter that it will not be changed, establishing the faces of > the evil > is my only point. > == > "Making dope legal will stop crime" > > Double Duh > Booze is legal and on the cop videos and in our newspapers we see > grocery stores broken into, we read about people being killed by > drunks who are just getting enough money to get drunk. > /// > How do they know that the crimes were done by those who are alcoholics? > \\\ > Because they admitted to that reason, because they were caught stealing > booze, because the muggers beating/killing their victims were drunks/dope > users who were not robbing to by a tv, fix their car or to send money to > Fawell, > They beat and rob victims in order to get their next stupor. > They were stupid on dope or booze while committing their crimes ! > > How do I know, because that is what the FACTS state. > === > they wouldn't have to do if heroin, etc., were available CHEAPLY to them > via a government program... > We'd also cut down on the incidencense of diseases which
