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Brown, Jeremy wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> MJ,
>
> I admit I'm quite puzzled by your post. You say that I'm afraid of
> freedom, however you have produced nothing to support that claim. What I am
> afraid of is that more people, like my friend, will die because we all sit
> by plucking daisies and turning our heads to something we can work together
> to prevent. Also, you have said that a potential is not a crime. You're
> right, but..(this may shock you)...DRUNK DRIVING IS!!!! It's illegal! You
> can't even have an open container in the car with you. That's the issue.
> And, again, I'll try and explain it to you in simple terms. I agree that if
> what you do does not harm anyone but yourself, by all means do it until you
> drop dead. That was not what I am saying. I'm saying that when your actions
> have negative impacts on those around you it becomes a problem. So please,
> everybody...stop thinking that I'm challenging freedom. I'm not! I'm only
> saying that there have been far to many good people cut down by drunk
> drivers. Something needs to be done. And, MJ, for you to even use the term
> "discrimination" in the same sentence as drunk driving is downright
> offensive.
>
> Jeremy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> >I'm sorry have to interject and tell you, you can have an open container in the
> car in the state of mont. the bars even give go cups.....I still object to the
> seat belt law,even if it does save lives..why aren't they in school buses????
> barley hmmmm......
> > From: M. A. Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 3:20 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**
> >
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > Brown, Jeremy wrote:
> > The issue I was raising was that once you get behind the wheel of a
> > car,
> > you have now brought people into the equation who did not ask to be
> > a
> > part of your choices or actions.
> >
> > MJ:
> > When ANYONE gets in a car they *COULD* kill others -- whether they
> > are drunk, drugged, LACK ABILITY, EXHAUSTED or otherwise.
> > A potential is NOT a crime.
> >
> > Why the FEAR of freedom?
> >
> >
> > Brown, Jeremy wrote:
> > I never EVER said that the government could or should be able to
> > dictate what we as individuals choose to do or not do.
> >
> > MJ:
> > You JUST did above by supporting 'drunk driving' discrimination.
> >
> >
> > ANY crime which does NOT involve the violation of another's property
> > *IS* merely an exercise in control, serves to provide legislated advantage
> > to one or more persons and/or a revenue source for the State.
> >
> >
> > Regard$,
> > --MJ
> >
> > Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their
> > property that they may more perfectly respect it. -- G. K. Chesterton
> >
> > Government has no other end but the preservation of Property.
> > -- John Locke
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