Re: [CTRL] Joseph Lieberman holds Israelie Citizenship and USA Citizenship.
In a message dated 08/10/2000 7:40:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So according to Barry Charmish whom I believe to be reliable and very outspoken claims Lieberman holds citizenship in Israel. Now how is this possible? Supposedly, in a book I read years ago by Errol Flynn (his son was on MIA matches - where is Sean Flynn)according to Flynn any American who takes up arms for a foreign power loses his citizenshipwonder about that UN stuff? Saba, I called his office the day Gore announced him, and they assured me that he did not have dual citizenship and had never and would never vote in an Israeli election. If you get any real proof here, I'd like to see it. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Joseph Lieberman holds Israelie Citizenship and USA Citizenship.
At 08:17 AM 8/12/00 -0400, "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - - - snip - - - So according to Barry Charmish whom I believe to be reliable and very outspoken claims Lieberman holds citizenship in Israel. Now how is this possible? Supposedly, in a book I read years ago by Errol Flynn (his son was on MIA matches - where is Sean Flynn)according to Flynn any American who takes up arms for a foreign power loses his citizenshipwonder about that UN stuff? Saba, I called his office the day Gore announced him, and they assured me that he did not have dual citizenship and had never and would never vote in an Israeli election. If you get any real proof here, I'd like to see it. Prudy How is it possible? You tell me. Strange things seem to happen involving Jews and U.S. citizenship. Item: Martin Indyk was an Australian citizen at the beginning of the Clinton administration. Then he turned up as the U. S. Ambassador to Israel. Can a U.S. Ambassador to another country NOT be a U.S. citizen? Is Martin Indyk now a U.S. citizen? If so, when did he become a U.S. citizen? Did he give up his Australian citizenship? Item: Rahm Emmanual served as the as the Political Advisor to the President of the United States. Emmanual served in the Israeli army during the six day way. Presumably, the Israeli government paid him for his services in thier army. Under U.S. law, a person who serves in the U.S. government and has received payments from a foreign government must register as a "foreign agent". Did Rahm Emmanual register as a "foreign agent"? Was the American public told that the "Political Advisor to the President of the United States" was a "registered foreign agent"? Rahm Emmanual immigrated to the Unites States from Israel. Did he become a U.S. citizen? If so, did he give up his Israeli citizenship? Did he hold dual citizenship? So far as I know, neither the Clinton regime nor organized Jewry ever acknowleged that a patriotic taxpaying American citizen might even have a right to know the answers. Item: Jewish immigrants from Russia (and perhaps from other countries as well) are automatically treated under U.S. immigration laws as "refugees". They enter the U.S. under greatly privileged circumstances as compared to immigrants from other countries who are subject to quotas and bureaucracies. To what extent are Jewish immigrants accorded favoritism under U.S. law? Does the favoritsm extend to allowing them to maintain dual citizenship which is not accorded to other immigrants? DBC A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Joseph Lieberman holds Israelie Citizenship and USA Citizenship.
So according to Barry Charmish whom I believe to be reliable and very outspoken claims Lieberman holds citizenship in Israel. Now how is this possible? Supposedly, in a book I read years ago by Errol Flynn (his son was on MIA matches - where is Sean Flynn)according to Flynn any American who takes up arms for a foreign power loses his citizenshipwonder about that UN stuff? So here is item by Barry Chamish where he has interesting information but do not know how to verifythis dual citizenship which just ain't kosher? Saba Or is it Kosher? 7:27pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: "...and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss himbut Jesus said unto him, Judas betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?" Luke 22 So the Mafia Kiss of Death to be planted on whom? For is all ready now for NWO/CFR takeover and UN working overtime - for clue read Daniel and Ezekial 38 and 39symbolism of USA President and Seal of President. Saba Date:Thu, Aug 10, 2000, 2:05pm (EDT-3) From:American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: BEWARE LIEBERMAN by Barry Chamish - [EMAIL PROTECTED] VP Candidate Joseph Lieberman is a member of the Council On Foreign http://www.cfr.org/p/resource.cgi?pers!6978 Relation (CFR), as are Dick Cheney, and Al Gore. The only candidate not on the members list is G.W. Bush Jr. who is a member by proxy. His grandfather Prescott was a CFR pioneer, while dad, George Sr. was an executive of the accursed cult whose aim is a one world government. With only 3000 it is clear that only CFR members and loyalists may become President. Last time around the figures were the same, Gore, Dole and Clinton were CFR members. The story has been similar for the past two generations. Rabbi Marvin Antleman has been fighting the CFR for three decades. Council On Foreign Relations http://www.foreignrelations.org/public/ In 1972, he submitted a proposal to the Rabbinical Council of America to condemn the CFR and prevent its members from infiltrating Jewish institutions. In 1974, his book To Eliminate The Opiate was published. Long considered a classic in many circles, the book exposed the CFR's program to wipe out Judaism by planting its members throughout Jewish media, charitable and educational institutes. He called last night to tell me that, "I just went through the CFR roster. Lieberman's name is on the membership list. We're being sold a bill of goods again." Studies Department: The Council's Think Tank http://www.foreignrelations.org/public/studiesprog.html The CFR's Middle East Task Force Report of July 1996 spells out the organization's position in no uncertain terms; Israel must return to its undefendable 1948 borders and Jerusalem is to be divided into two national capitals. Rabbi Antleman thus doubts the authenticity of Lieberman's commitment to Orthodox Jewry. "How can you be Orthodox and belong to an organization which promotes the division of Jerusalem and which, in the past, has financially backed such irreligious movements as communism and nazism?" he asks. "The CFR's purpose is to promote and arm violent and disruptive national movements in order to upset the world's status quo and replace it with their alternative world order. There is no place within for a religious Jew unless he is dangerous window dressing." What that will mean for Israel is more suicidal concessions with American Jews unable to accuse the administration of being anti-Israel. The same trick was used in 1972 when CFR executive Henry Kissinger was named Secretary of State. Equally proud of Kissinger as they are of Lieberman today, the Jewish community could not accuse the administration of deliberately trying to eliminate Israel in the Yom Kippur War of 1973, nor could they find sinister motives for the isolation of Israel in the peace process which followed it. This time around, not only does the current "peace" process get a boost, so does the Hillary Clinton campaign for a New York senatorial seat. And the Jews, so excited by Lieberman's nomination, as usual, do not suspect how cynically they are being set up. The signs are there for anyone to see. Last year Lieberman welcomed Arafat to America and even prayed for the success of his mission. And he initiated a publicized letter to President Clinton nixing any chance of CFR victim Jonathan Pollard's release from prison. As the Jerusalem Post noted, Pollard's website has long accused Lieberman of being "a willing tool of the CIA." Sooner of later Lieberman's possible dual allegiance to America and Israel will become a debating point. Observes Antleman, "And that will miss the real issue, which is Lieberman's allegiance to the CFR. It will prove stronger than all his sentimental ties to America, Israel and to Judaism itself." Briefs: A reader writes to
Re: [CTRL] Joseph Lieberman holds Israelie Citizenship and USA Citizenship.
From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So according to Barry Charmish whom I believe to be reliable and very outspoken claims Lieberman holds citizenship in Israel. Actually it says POSSIBLE dual 'allegiance', to whit: Sooner of later Lieberman's possible dual allegiance to America and Israel will become a debating point. Observes Antleman, "And that will miss the real issue, which is Lieberman's allegiance to the CFR. It will prove stronger than all his sentimental ties to America, Israel and to Judaism itself." FWIW, of all the gripes Lieberman's Constitution State contituents have and have had regarding our junior senator, a 'dual allegience' or even a 'dual citizenship' was not one of them... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Joseph Lieberman holds Israelie Citizenship and USA Citizenship.
So after we put all our retirement moneys into stocks (insurance) like during WW2, if something happens where does the USA stand? Social Security, banks? Like overseas - they do not have to pay an insurance policy if there are no survivors to pay to. What family has been involved in many wars, actively backed Hitler's war effort http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm Could they be attempting to make sure that US citizens are exempt from UN laws? ..."Friedrich Flick was the major co-owner of the German Steel Trust with Fritz Thyssen, Thyssen's long-time collaborator and occasional competitor. In preparation for the war crimes tribunal at Nuremberg, the U.S. government said that Flick was `` one of leading financiers and industrialists who from 1932 contributed large sums to the Nazi Party ... member of `Circle of Friends' of Himmler who contributed large sums to the SS. ''@s1@s5 Flick, like Thyssen, financed the Nazis to maintain their private armies called Schutzstaffel (S.S. or Black Shirts) and Sturmabteilung (S.A., storm troops or Brown Shirts). The Flick-Harriman partnership was directly supervised by Prescott Bush, President Bush's father, and by George Walker, President Bush's grandfather. The Harriman-Walker Union Banking Corp. arrangements for the German Steel Trust had made them bankers for Flick and his vast operations in Germany by no later than 1926. "... Could this family still be doing things that the UN would not approve of? http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/index.htm Aleisha Saba wrote: So according to Barry Charmish whom I believe to be reliable and very outspoken claims Lieberman holds citizenship in Israel. Now how is this possible? Supposedly, in a book I read years ago by Errol Flynn (his son was on MIA matches - where is Sean Flynn)according to Flynn any American who takes up arms for a foreign power loses his citizenshipwonder about that UN stuff? So here is item by Barry Chamish where he has interesting information but do not know how to verifythis dual citizenship which just ain't kosher? Saba Or is it Kosher? 7:27pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: "...and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss himbut Jesus said unto him, Judas betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?" Luke 22 So the Mafia Kiss of Death to be planted on whom? For is all ready now for NWO/CFR takeover and UN working overtime - for clue read Daniel and Ezekial 38 and 39symbolism of USA President and Seal of President. Saba Date:Thu, Aug 10, 2000, 2:05pm (EDT-3) From:American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: BEWARE LIEBERMAN by Barry Chamish - [EMAIL PROTECTED] VP Candidate Joseph Lieberman is a member of the Council On Foreign http://www.cfr.org/p/resource.cgi?pers!6978 Relation (CFR), as are Dick Cheney, and Al Gore. The only candidate not on the members list is G.W. Bush Jr. who is a member by proxy. His grandfather Prescott was a CFR pioneer, while dad, George Sr. was an executive of the accursed cult whose aim is a one world government. With only 3000 it is clear that only CFR members and loyalists may become President. Last time around the figures were the same, Gore, Dole and Clinton were CFR members. The story has been similar for the past two generations. Rabbi Marvin Antleman has been fighting the CFR for three decades. Council On Foreign Relations http://www.foreignrelations.org/public/ In 1972, he submitted a proposal to the Rabbinical Council of America to condemn the CFR and prevent its members from infiltrating Jewish institutions. In 1974, his book To Eliminate The Opiate was published. Long considered a classic in many circles, the book exposed the CFR's program to wipe out Judaism by planting its members throughout Jewish media, charitable and educational institutes. He called last night to tell me that, "I just went through the CFR roster. Lieberman's name is on the membership list. We're being sold a bill of goods again." Studies Department: The Council's Think Tank http://www.foreignrelations.org/public/studiesprog.html The CFR's Middle East Task Force Report of July 1996 spells out the organization's position in no uncertain terms; Israel must return to its undefendable 1948 borders and Jerusalem is to be divided into two national capitals. Rabbi Antleman thus doubts the authenticity of Lieberman's commitment to Orthodox Jewry. "How can you be Orthodox and belong to an organization which promotes the division of Jerusalem and which, in the past, has financially backed such irreligious movements as communism and nazism?" he asks. "The CFR's purpose is to promote and arm violent and disruptive national movements in order to upset the world's status quo and replace it with their alternative world
