Re: [CTRL] Larouche vs. LaRouche (Schizoid)

[David Sutherland]

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The light on the hill concept is perhaps 
what Robert Schuller was building with his Crystal Cathedral?
 
The cathedral kind of represents the 
mini-me version of the "City of God".
 
Within its walls, the unknowable, 
untouchable god becomes immanent and tangible.
 
Christian Cathedral-ism is undoubtedly 
reminiscent of Jewish Temple-ism.
 
The most holy place recycled as the 
alter, and the outer court was re-pew-ed for the masses.
 
In the Romish Oligarchy, the 
sacrifice of the Mass continued as the domain of the priests as were the Jewish 
sanctuary services administered by the priests. The Jewish Day of Atonement, 
which occurred once a year was recycled into the more frequent sacrifice of the 
Mass. Roman Catholicism also recycled the 
Empires pantheon of gods and rebadged them as Catholic saints; it is 
thoroughly pagan-ridden. 
 
The theology of the cathedral spoke to the 
worshiper through the panorama of sight that moved the emotions, rather than in 
rational discourses of philosophical and theological constructs. In many 
respects the neo-Temple itself became the focus of worship, rather than what it 
was meant represent.
 
The religious, being closer to god, 
always want to the ones who dictate what "proper" city life ought to be. 
In medieval England a city was not considered 
truly "a city" unless it had a cathedral.
 
Then there was Dante, an angry, bitter 
man. Dante was a victim of a papal land grab in Tuscany by Boniface, a man who 
even contemporary historians say conned his way onto the Papal Throne. The poet 
was forced into voluntary exile and could never returned to his native Florence 
because his return would have meant he would be burned alive at the stake by the 
pope's minions.

That's why Dante wrote his Divine 
Comedy. He took the city-state that he knew and more importantly the rich, 
famous and infamous people of that city-state and teleported them into a 
narrative where he could posit each one of those people into a framework of 
Divine Judgment. The people he liked went to Heaven, while his enemies and the 
truly wicked received their just rewards in the darkest, iciest bowels of 
Hell.
Dante's  Divine Comedy is a 
vernacular representation of the theology of the cathedral. It was a road map 
between hell and heaven for the illiterate faithful. It is also Ptolemaic; that 
is, the earth is the centre of the theological universe. The universe exists for 
Humanity. And Man is next to God.
Not until the Reformation did the NT notion 
of the "priesthood of all believers" come to be revived in a substantive way. 
Each individual was responsible for their own salvation and relationship to god. 
No need of priestly mediators.
"Know ye not that ye are 
the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?" 1 
Corinthians 3:16
Naturally, this idea was to send the 
Reformation believers on a collision course with the Papal Oligarchy that 
had now socially entrenched itself and developed a symbiotic relationship 
with powerful fiefdoms and rulers. Basically, the competition 
threatened to put the priests (as mediators between god and man) out of 
business. 
The Reformation sowed the seeds of new 
Liberalising movements which stressed the importance of, and focused on; the 
individual. The war has been raging ever since, and the Temple builders 
have made vast headways in the West.
Instead of lights on a hill, they are the 
prisons and mausoleums of god, erected by human egotists and megalomaniacs 
seeking riches and their own apotheosis.
"All in all it was just a brick in the 
wall.All in all it was all just bricks in the wall.
All in all it's just another brick in the 
wall.All in all you're just another brick in the wall "  --Pink 
Floyd.
Dave.
 
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Larouche vs. LaRouche (Schizoid)
-Caveat Lector-On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, David Sutherland 
wrote:> Until about the age of the Reformation, the Roman Papacies 
idea of> "Christian Economics" could be best summarised as Elitist 
parasitism.>> LaRouche has such a schizoid personality when it 
comes to his thought> processes. And if the manner he treats his acolytes 
serves as any indicator,> many of whom themselves come across as 
mini-me-LaRouche fascists (making> them twice the children of hell?), we 
could take another strip from the> Simpson's:>> Rev 
LoveJoy:> "Now Homer, what have we learned about god 
today"?>> Homer:> "The Lord is an angry and revengeful 
man!>> O Mighty Shmiter,> Tell me who to shmite,> 
And they shall be shmotten"!>> Go Homer.>> 
Dave.Also from The Simpsons, the Movementarian Chant (which applies

Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: [CTRL] Larouche vs. LaRouche (Schizoid)

[Party of Citizens]

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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, David Sutherland wrote:

> Until about the age of the Reformation, the Roman Papacies idea of
> "Christian Economics" could be best summarised as Elitist parasitism.
>
> LaRouche has such a schizoid personality when it comes to his thought
> processes. And if the manner he treats his acolytes serves as any indicator,
> many of whom themselves come across as mini-me-LaRouche fascists (making
> them twice the children of hell?), we could take another strip from the
> Simpson's:
>
> Rev LoveJoy:
> "Now Homer, what have we learned about god today"?
>
> Homer:
> "The Lord is an angry and revengeful man!
>
> O Mighty Shmiter,
> Tell me who to shmite,
> And they shall be shmotten"!
>
> Go Homer.
>
> Dave.

Also from The Simpsons, the Movementarian Chant (which applies well to
brainwashed Larouchies):

The leader is good,
The leader is great.
We surrender our wills,
As of this date.

Yes Larouche is schizoid; also a megalomaniac who has delusions that he
knows how to govern the planet. But how about just one shining city on a
hill for a start, eg the design of  according to
Junior's "Christian Economics". Come now Junior, don't keep all that light
under a bushel!

POC

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Re: [CTRL] Larouche vs. LaRouche (Schizoid)

[David Sutherland]

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Until about the age of the Reformation, the Roman Papacies idea of
"Christian Economics" could be best summarised as Elitist parasitism.

The immergence of the Reformation spawned various other movements which
progressively tended to liberalise man and capital, and depose the
superstitions of clericalism and associated superstitions, particularly
nature worship.

It's difficult to imagine anything more scurrilous and useless to human
progress, prosperity and liberty than the parasitic Empire of the Vatican,
and its American counterpart; the Prey-On-You  TV rEvangelists.

India is very proud to be known as the home of the proverbial "three hundred
thousand gods."

The people of India were recently facing a deadly plague carried by rats;
hundreds died and the possibility of thousands more dying was very
real. Although the plague can be literally wiped out overnight by getting
rid of the rats, health officials are helpless to act.

According to Hindu mythology, the rats are not to be killed, but to be
worshipped!

A recent Associated Press news report from New Delhi, India described the
scene as follows:

"It's a health official's nightmare: Tens of thousands of rats racing
across the floor, feasting on fruit and candy.

At the Karni Mata temple in the desert state of Rajastan, the effort to
stifle the first outbreak of plague in 28 years takes a back seat to an old
Hindu practice-rat worship.

In Hindu mythology, the elephant-headed god Ganesh is accompanied by a rat
whenever he travels. No Hindu worship is complete without an offering to
Ganesh and his small companion."

I watched a David Attenborough Documentary the other week, where in India an
entire city was in the grip of rat worship. Rats, like a plague, scurried
and circled the entire town with the inhabitants joyously giving
homage; praying, petting and giving offerings to their rat gods.

One could not but see the irony of the West, whose bones are being gnawed
and picked by the religionists; rats in cassocks or Versace suits who claim
to represent god.

"Gods always behave like the people who created them"
Zora Neale Hurston

LaRouche has such a schizoid personality when it comes to his thought
processes. And if the manner he treats his acolytes serves as any indicator,
many of whom themselves come across as mini-me-LaRouche fascists (making
them twice the children of hell?), we could take another strip from the
Simpson's:

Rev LoveJoy:
"Now Homer, what have we learned about god today"?

Homer:
"The Lord is an angry and revengeful man!

O Mighty Shmiter,
Tell me who to shmite,
And they shall be shmotten"!

Go Homer.

Dave.





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Re: [CTRL] Larouche vs. LaRouche (Schizoid)

[Party of Citizens]

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Larouche has published a book titled "Christian Economics". What would be
the structure and functioning of a Larouche Christian economy for
 atop Burnaby Mountain in BC? A "shining city on
a hill" so that we can all see what he is talking about? Or can the SFU
pagans do it better?

Zandu Goldbar
POC Financier

"Lyndon Larouche was right!"
-Homer Simpson

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Re: [CTRL] Larouche vs. LaRouche (Schizoid)

[David Sutherland]

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Still got the sooks Brian? I 
note that you and Danny boy seem to have something in common? And now I see the 
grand Wazzock, Schmuck McWinbag feels he has found a "familiar spirit" with you. 
McDaft's advances on you are rather touching, I don't know whether to hurl or 
reach for my box of tissues.Now how can anything an individual like 
yourself, accept by shear fortuitous chance, be taken seriously or 
sincerely?You do not even have the personal character nor integrity to 
admit that it was yourself who from the outset began with the "hysterics" and 
suspicious paranoid allegations, as you do so again within this dogmatic post, 
"i rest my case!" as if it were the end of all 
knowledge.You cannot even come clean, nor have the decency or guts to 
apologise when caught out lying and blaming others for what you yourself engaged 
in the first instance.Character is not something developed in one post, 
or overnight B.S., it's the work of a lifetime. To date, your weak character 
indicatescrappy workmanship.The Christian Messiah said, 
"seek the truth, and the truth shall make you free." What he 
spoke of was not going down to the local synagogue and digging up dirt, or 
manufacturing dirt as people like David Icke do, who use this verse in their 
demonising hogwash; but to do some hard soul-searching to find inner 
righteousness and strength of moral character; to ultimately find the soul and 
passion of Jesus.Aside from exposing his moral duplicity; whether the 
public face of LaRouche says that he is pro- or anti- Jesuit is completely 
irrelevant. 
 
The point that was made is 
that LaRouche imbibes the same old anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theories 
originated by the Jesuit propaganda mill and applies them to his own sociopathic 
and megalomaniac ends.
 
LaRouche employs the 
phraseology of Jesuits like Abbe Barruel, the Jesuit Vatican approved organ 
Civilta Cattolica, and the religio-political hoax 'Protocols of Zion,' he 
says:

  "This 
  Synarchist International (safe to assume he implies some 
  'International Jewish Cabal') is a continuation of the same 
  Martinist freemasonic cult behind both the 
  Jacobin Terror and Napoleon Bonaparte's rule in 
  France".
As the Jesuit 
Barruel claimed in his crackpot conspiracy diatribes; he attributed a vast 
conspiracy in his published manifesto, "Memoires pour servir a 
l'Histoire du Jacobinisme or Memoirs Illustrating the History of 
Jacobinism," to the Illuminati with 
Freemasons and the Jacobin's as 
part of their instrumentality to destroy Catholic Europe. He later 
used a forged letter, and claimed that a cabal of Satanic Jews were ultimately 
behind this vast universal Conspiracy.
 
We have witnessed the revival of the Roman 
Catholic Jesuit Abbe Burruel's, anti-Semitic Jewish-Masonic-Jacobin & et al, 
Conspiracy Theory via political dupes on this very forum. 
 
Mostly, via Shill McDaft from regurgitated 
articles from his bum bandit the shrill Justin Raimondo, a creature of the 
Jesuits, who himself was inspired by the holy man of Jesus Paul Craig 
Roberts, whose "neo-Jacobin" conspiracy, demonising the US 
Administration like reckless, godless Jacobins,  was plagiarised from 
the Catholic University of America's Claes Ryn. So again, we 
trace the hand of clericalism and its allies and discover that not much has 
changed in there lovely demonising methods.Furthermore, 
"Conspiracy Theory," predominantly since about the time of the 
Enlightenment, and since Science and Rationality began to take root in the 
pre and neo-modern world; has been a fabulously success replacement for 
Clerico-Fascists, Nazis and the Ultra-Rights, as a "Devil" 
motif; an instrument of propaganda to demonise enemies. 
Hitler himself fervently 
believed in the Conspiracy hoax 'Protocols of Zion,' and used it demonise his 
foes.
 
Personally, I often employ Jesuitism and 
Vaticanism as iconic effigies. Like a Lab skeleton, using it to flesh out a 
particular religio-socio-politico non-niceties and malevolence. Individually I 
know these men and they are top-notch in the brain dept. But certainly 
clericalism historically, has had and its screwy and malignant side. 

 
Religious Orders are adaptive. 

 
They are chameleon-like by nature, trained 
to infiltrate and meld as far as possible with the cultural 
surround.
 
Take but one recent Academic 
example:
 
Manufacturing 
Confucianism: Chinese Traditions and Universal 
Civilization (Duke University Press), by Lionel M. 
Jensen: 

  Lionel M. Jensen 
  reveals how in China, the Jesuits, as sixteenth and seventeenth-century 
  Western missionaries used translations of the ancient ru tradition to invent 
  the presumably historical figure who has since been globally celebrated as 
  philosopher, prophet, statesman, wise man, and 
  saint.
 
 
 
This is a 
magnificent example of the power and will of the Jesuit Order to assimilate the 
religio-socio-political paradigm of a host nation in order to move it toward 
thei