Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/6/99 9:10:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << If anyone is interested in a nutritional approach to helping thyroid function, I can look up the info in a good book, "Prescription for Nutritional Healing." This book has guided us through several maladies. I don't sell this stuff either. Samantha >> Yes, please. I was also wondering if supplementing with additional amounts of the amino acid Tyrosine would be beneficial? How much? Several grams a day, or what? I am considering an increase in Iodine and Tyrosine intake, and am wondering if this would be helpful. You may respond to me off list since we are diverging from list parameters. Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- Most processed vitamins and minearals are not used by the body. The body is positvely charged, and NATURAL minerals taken in from plants grown in the rich mineral soil (if you can find any), is negatively charged. This makes the body accept them. The processed minearls are inheirently positively charged making them difficult or impossible to be used by the body. It is almost similar to a car battery, with it's positive and negative poles, or a magnet ,with it's opposites attracting. Also the blue green algae has at least 20-28 of the known needed enzymes for the immune system to function properly. These enzymes are becoming very scarse in our diets as we eat more and more processed foods which destroy the fragile enzymes in the process of heating, irradiating, etc. the foods. Without these enzymes, our immune defense mechanism is weakened allowing many viruses and "bugs" to multiply in the body. I too do not sell anything. Only giving some good hard facts about nutrition.harry -- > From: Samatha 'Smith' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE > Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 9:08 PM > > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 99-02-06 14:23:08 EST, you write: > > > I can't recommend enough a program of digestive enzymes, probiotics > > (acidophilus and bifidus), and blue green algae (no, I don't sell the > > stuff). > > > > I've never read anything about blue-green algae. I'll have to look into > it. Agree on the digestive enzymes and pro-biotics. We use natural papaya > and pineapple as digestive aids at my house. Some other products use animal > bile and it sounds unappealing to me. > > As for thyroid assistance using herbals, kelp was strongly recommended to > me by an herbalist. The iodine in kelp is helpful. Apparently we need more > iodone than is usually suggested. > > If anyone is interested in a nutritional approach to helping thyroid > function, I can look up the info in a good book, "Prescription for Nutritional > Healing." This book has guided us through several maladies. I don't sell > this stuff either. > Samantha > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-06 14:23:08 EST, you write: > I can't recommend enough a program of digestive enzymes, probiotics > (acidophilus and bifidus), and blue green algae (no, I don't sell the > stuff). > I've never read anything about blue-green algae. I'll have to look into it. Agree on the digestive enzymes and pro-biotics. We use natural papaya and pineapple as digestive aids at my house. Some other products use animal bile and it sounds unappealing to me. As for thyroid assistance using herbals, kelp was strongly recommended to me by an herbalist. The iodine in kelp is helpful. Apparently we need more iodone than is usually suggested. If anyone is interested in a nutritional approach to helping thyroid function, I can look up the info in a good book, "Prescription for Nutritional Healing." This book has guided us through several maladies. I don't sell this stuff either. Samantha DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Eric Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Have you looked into herbals, etc., to help restore balance? I've >>heard of and experienced great benefits from such. > >== >I can't recommend enough a program of digestive enzymes, probiotics >(acidophilus and bifidus), and blue green algae (no, I don't sell the >stuff). You're 'preaching to the choir', in my case... But as supportive as I am of alternative therapies, herbs, essential oils, all that stuff, it doesn't change the fact that my thyroid is 7/8ths dead tissue which can never be restored, a condition which was very probably (according to my endocrinologist) brought about by the severe bouts of flu I only experienced AFTER my one and only flu shot. June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- June, Have you looked into herbals, etc., to help restore balance? I've heard of and experienced great benefits from such. Samantha == I can't recommend enough a program of digestive enzymes, probiotics (acidophilus and bifidus), and blue green algae (no, I don't sell the stuff). __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE]
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Robert Tatman wrote: >June, I don't know if this was the practice when you got your shot, but when I >got my flu shot a couple of months ago, I had to sign a sheet stating that I >had been informed of the possible side effects of the vaccine. Yes, it *can* >give you a full-blown case of the flu, although the odds of that happening are >low; you were one of the cases where it *did* happen. This was more than 20 years ago... But every year, any place I'm working pushes flu shots on the employees, and without fail most of those who get the shots come down with very bad cases of the flu a short time later This happened where I was working last year...one of the strongest pushes for flu shots I'd ever seen, they had booths set up right outside the elevator landing, on the way to the cafeteria, where it was impossible to ignore...and they had this setup for any one desiring a 'walk up' shot, for one full week, with daily announcements via email and paper flyers for everyone to get their shots Everyone who sat around me got a shot...within a couple of weeks, all were not only sick, but VERY sick, for a VERY LONG TIME... I also got sick...probably because I was surrounded by all these sick people...but I wasn't any more ill than those who'd taken the shot... No, I still have seen no evidence for its effectiveness, not to warrant all the potential health risks it can cause... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-05 20:42:56 EST, you write: > Hashimoto's is particularly bad, as it is the thyroid turning against > itself, thinking it is a foreign invader to be destroyed, and so it sends > out signals to trigger the leukocytes to attack the thyroid's own tissue > as if the tissue was a virus... > > I've developed any number of allergies since then, again the thyroid > triggering the immune system to react to an innocuous substance as if it > were an infection... > > > June June, Have you looked into herbals, etc., to help restore balance? I've heard of and experienced great benefits from such. Samantha DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Eric Stewart wrote: >And it would seem that flu shot ended up DESTROYING my immune system by >destroying my thyroid, one of the most integral organs of the immune >system... > >It would seem you have Acquired an Immune Deficiency. Exactly. I was initially diagnosed in early 1983, when 'AIDS' was just becoming big news...and the more I read up regarding hypothyroidism in general, and Hashimoto's thyroiditis in particular, the more I kept running across the term 'an acquired deficiency effecting the immune system'...the same terminology that was then cropping up regarding AIDS Hashimoto's is particularly bad, as it is the thyroid turning against itself, thinking it is a foreign invader to be destroyed, and so it sends out signals to trigger the leukocytes to attack the thyroid's own tissue as if the tissue was a virus... I've developed any number of allergies since then, again the thyroid triggering the immune system to react to an innocuous substance as if it were an infection... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Teo One Thousand wrote: >Wow this exactly describes what I am experiencing. I am on synthetic thyroid >hormone but it is a small dose and seems to not be affecting it much. One's requirements usually increase with age...you should go back to your endocrinologist and have him or her run some update blood tests to determine your current requirements... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-05 04:37:17 EST, you write: > It is a known fact that you get an extreme case of flu AFTER a flu injection. > The jab actually infects you with a flu virus of some sort to help build up > your immune system. > > Richard B. They tell you you MAY get a mild case, but that it would be much less than if you got the actual flu. Samantha DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- And it would seem that flu shot ended up DESTROYING my immune system by destroying my thyroid, one of the most integral organs of the immune system... June == It would seem you have Acquired an Immune Deficiency. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE]
-Caveat Lector- YnrChyldzWyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only time I ever got a flu shot, within 6 weeks I had the WORST bout > of flu I'd ever had in my whole life...I'd never been that sick before, > it was the first time I'd ever had laryngitis, etc. > > Within the following year, I started exhibiting the first symptoms of > what would be eventually diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis...when I > asked the endocrinologist what causes it, she said they aren't sure, that > there are any number of causes/triggers, a severe bout of flu being one > of them... > > I patently REFUSE to have another flu shot, EVER... > > > June June, I don't know if this was the practice when you got your shot, but when I got my flu shot a couple of months ago, I had to sign a sheet stating that I had been informed of the possible side effects of the vaccine. Yes, it *can* give you a full-blown case of the flu, although the odds of that happening are low; you were one of the cases where it *did* happen. I have to get a flu shot, as well as pneumovax (vaccine against Staphylococcus pneumoniae, which causes some forms of pneumonia as well as other problems), because I have a chronic lung condition (pulmonary sarcoidosis). It's your call whether you get another flu shot; if you're otherwise healthy, and don't mind running the risk, you can probably get away with skipping it. I *can't* run that risk; I have enough trouble breathing without adding the flu into the equation. I also doubt that the flu vaccine is related to the thing that Teo was speaking of--I've had a variant of it for the past two months. My pulmonologist calls it "There's a lot of that going around." I'd like to see an epidemiological study of the areas where the spraying, odd contrails, etc., have been reported, to determine if there is a greater incidence of "there's a lot of that going around" in those areas than elsewhere. Even some strong anecdotal evidence would be useful. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/5/99 6:31:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << But generally, if one is hypothyroid, you'd find yourself tired most of the time, or getting tired easilyyou'd probably tend to feel colder than everyone else (indeed, a simple test to check for hypothyroidism is to take one's basal temp every morning -- first thing upon awakening, before doing anything else, you take your temp -- opinions vary about whether to take it orally, or by sticking it under your armpit for 10 minutes -- and record your temps for every morning for two weeks...if you're hypothyroid, you'll find you're running a few degrees below normal) (the armpit temp's normal temp is a few decimals below one's oral temp) Another common sign is very dry skin, and one may or may not have a goiter...also one tends to lose one's appetite, but ironically tends to put on weight (or find it difficult if not impossible to lose weight) >> Wow this exactly describes what I am experiencing. I am on synthetic thyroid hormone but it is a small dose and seems to not be affecting it much. Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- June, youd be surprised how many nurses refuse the hepatitis vaccine they are supposed to get before they start working. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- June wrote: >>The only time I ever got a flu shot, within 6 weeks I had the WORST bout of flu I'd ever had in my whole life...I started exhibiting the first symptoms of what would be eventually diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis...when I asked the endocrinologist what causes it, she said they aren't sure, that there are any number of causes/triggers, a severe bout of flu being one of them...I patently REFUSE to have another flu shot, EVER...>> My experience was identical! Additionally, I've had a 5 week virus lately that defies diagnosis and treatment. Hard to get in to see a doctor around here as the whole town appears to have same mystery respiratory illness. Teo1000 - here's a start: http://www.healthy.net/LIBRARY/Articles/Schacter/hypothyr.d.htm Gail DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- Bummer!! YnrChyldzWyld wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > >On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Source - Richard wrote: >>It is a known fact that you get an extreme case of flu AFTER a flu >>injection. > >No, it is notat least, that's not how it's marketed to the public, >where those who are at greatest risk for respiratory infection are >pressured into getting the shots. > > >>The jab actually infects you with a flu virus of some sort to >>help build up your immune system. > >Didn't work in my case...not only did I get the worst case of flu I'd >ever had in my whole life, but I continued to get very bad cases of flu >every year thereafter, where before I'd only had maybe 3 or so bouts of >flu in my life... > >And it would seem that flu shot ended up DESTROYING my immune system by >destroying my thyroid, one of the most integral organs of the immune >system... > > >June > > === > The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, > Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. >-- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers > === >*---* >revcoal AT connix DOT com >*---* > It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email > address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of > $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial > email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these > terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive > unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial > email. >** > >DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER >== >CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic >screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters >and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright >frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects >spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL >gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; >be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and >nazi's need not apply. > >Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > >Archives Available at: >http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > >http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > >To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: >SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Om > >RFC822 header >--- > >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Received: from lists.aol.com ([152.163.216.26]) by zag.workstation.org.uk > (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA126 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:24:56 + >Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM by lists.aol.com (LSMTP for Windows NT >v1.1a) with >SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 6:37:37 -0500 >Received: from LISTSERV.AOL.COM by LISTSERV.AOL.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release > 1.8d) with spool id 23172849 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 5 Feb > 1999 06:37:36 -0500 >Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by > listserv.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12737 for > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:37:35 -0500 (EST) >Received: from localhost (revcoal@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) > with SMTP id GAA14816 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 > 06:37:35 -0500 (EST) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:37:35 -0500 >Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sender: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: YnrChyldzWyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >In-Reply-To: <19990205092420507.AAA129@[195.62.206.59]> > DECLARATION &
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Source - Richard wrote: >It is a known fact that you get an extreme case of flu AFTER a flu >injection. No, it is notat least, that's not how it's marketed to the public, where those who are at greatest risk for respiratory infection are pressured into getting the shots. >The jab actually infects you with a flu virus of some sort to >help build up your immune system. Didn't work in my case...not only did I get the worst case of flu I'd ever had in my whole life, but I continued to get very bad cases of flu every year thereafter, where before I'd only had maybe 3 or so bouts of flu in my life... And it would seem that flu shot ended up DESTROYING my immune system by destroying my thyroid, one of the most integral organs of the immune system... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Teo One Thousand wrote: ><< Within the following year, I started exhibiting the first symptoms of > what would be eventually diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis...when I > asked the endocrinologist what causes it, she said they aren't sure, that > there are any number of causes/triggers, a severe bout of flu being one > of them... >> >You mind telloing me what the symptoms are for this malady? I may be >experiencing Thyroid problems also. Hashimoto's is just one type of hypothyroidism...an underactive thyroid. In my case, 'something' triggered my thyroid to think that it's own tissue was an invading organism, and so it attacked itself, destroying most of its tissue...I have perhaps only a quarter or less of my thyroid still 'alive' and functioning... The thyroid regulates all the other endocrine systems and hence affects ALL major organs and systems of the body...so there's no simple and easy answer to the question "What symptoms do I look for?", since what one may be experiencing can manifest as an increase in allergies, as a heart problem, digestive disorders, headaches, increased susceptibility to infection, problems with the reproductive system But generally, if one is hypothyroid, you'd find yourself tired most of the time, or getting tired easilyyou'd probably tend to feel colder than everyone else (indeed, a simple test to check for hypothyroidism is to take one's basal temp every morning -- first thing upon awakening, before doing anything else, you take your temp -- opinions vary about whether to take it orally, or by sticking it under your armpit for 10 minutes -- and record your temps for every morning for two weeks...if you're hypothyroid, you'll find you're running a few degrees below normal) (the armpit temp's normal temp is a few decimals below one's oral temp) Another common sign is very dry skin, and one may or may not have a goiter...also one tends to lose one's appetite, but ironically tends to put on weight (or find it difficult if not impossible to lose weight) Hyperthyroidism differs in this respect, in that sufferers tend to gain a greater appetite but continue to lose weight...but other than symptoms like heart palpitations and insomnia, those suffering from hyperthyroidism very often exhibit similar symptoms to those suffering hypothyroidism, because as I said, the thyroid's function is to regulate everything else, so when it malfunctions via either extreme, the symptoms that manifest are usually via something 'down the road' Thyroid disorders can also affect one's mood...hyper's tend to be hyper, hypos tend towards depression... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
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Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/4/99 11:41:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Within the following year, I started exhibiting the first symptoms of what would be eventually diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis...when I asked the endocrinologist what causes it, she said they aren't sure, that there are any number of causes/triggers, a severe bout of flu being one of them... >> You mind telloing me what the symptoms are for this malady? I may be experiencing Thyroid problems also. Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- June, I have a similar story. Got sick , I think it was a few weeks after getting a flu shot. Then we were informed that there was something wrong with the vaccine and that it didn't protect against one virulent strain of flu that was becoming common. I wouldn't get another one. Eric Roberts YnrChyldzWyld wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Teo1000 wrote: > > >Well, as regards this sickness. I am sick myself and it is most unusual. I > >am told it is the flu, but it is unlike any flu I have had before, in addition > >I got a flu shot around October of last year. > > The only time I ever got a flu shot, within 6 weeks I had the WORST bout > of flu I'd ever had in my whole life...I'd never been that sick before, > it was the first time I'd ever had laryngitis, etc. > > Within the following year, I started exhibiting the first symptoms of > what would be eventually diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis...when I > asked the endocrinologist what causes it, she said they aren't sure, that > there are any number of causes/triggers, a severe bout of flu being one > of them... > > I patently REFUSE to have another flu shot, EVER... > > June > > === > The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, > Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. > -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers > === > *---* > revcoal AT connix DOT com > *---* > It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email > address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of > $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial > email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these > terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive > unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial > email. > ** > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- Teo1000 wrote: >Well, as regards this sickness. I am sick myself and it is most unusual. I >am told it is the flu, but it is unlike any flu I have had before, in addition >I got a flu shot around October of last year. The only time I ever got a flu shot, within 6 weeks I had the WORST bout of flu I'd ever had in my whole life...I'd never been that sick before, it was the first time I'd ever had laryngitis, etc. Within the following year, I started exhibiting the first symptoms of what would be eventually diagnosed as Hashimoto's thyroiditis...when I asked the endocrinologist what causes it, she said they aren't sure, that there are any number of causes/triggers, a severe bout of flu being one of them... I patently REFUSE to have another flu shot, EVER... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- Teo1000 wrote: > >Well, as regards this sickness. I am sick myself and it is most unusual. I >am told it is the flu, but it is unlike any flu I have had before, in addition >I got a flu shot around October of last year. I don't know how these things >relate but I have been having a problem with fatigue too, and have noticed >weird contrails in the air around here lately too. One of the contrails was >almost luminescent, and easily seen in the night sky. One other I observed in >the daytime was similar to those attributed to pulse jets, that supposedly >don't exist. >Could all be a big nothing but I find it interesting that all of this is >happening at the same time like this and in such widely diverse places. >Teo1000 Recently in Vancouver there was an epidemic of leaky condos. Naturally there was a lot of outrage and complaints from the victims about the tens of thousands of dollars in repairs, but there were also some health complaints because the dampness allowed mould and fungi to grow which caused lingering flu-like symptoms and fatigue. This struck me because I remember a number of people on this list complaining of flu-like sickness that wouldn't go away. So you might check for damp areas in your residence. As to the luminescence of the contrail, if it was the *early* night sky and the contrail was very high, remember that the sun might still be shining on it. These contrail stories make me uneasy, too. I remember going out for a paper one morning when Vancouver was being sprayed to eridicate gypsy moths. I heard a plane overhead so I hurried -- couldn't have been outside for more than 3 or 4 minutes -- but I came down with a sore throat which was one of effects on humans that the sprayers admitted might occur. So I definitely don't like chemical agents being dumped on me from above! Nevertheless, it's important to eliminate alternative explanations before getting too paranoid. Gerry DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- Well, as regards this sickness. I am sick myself and it is most unusual. I am told it is the flu, but it is unlike any flu I have had before, in addition I got a flu shot around October of last year. I don't know how these things relate but I have been having a problem with fatigue too, and have noticed weird contrails in the air around here lately too. One of the contrails was almost luminescent, and easily seen in the night sky. One other I observed in the daytime was similar to those attributed to pulse jets, that supposedly don't exist. Could all be a big nothing but I find it interesting that all of this is happening at the same time like this and in such widely diverse places. Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-02 19:08:52 EST, you write: > Newspapers in Bakersfield, > California are reporting jammed emergency rooms. Here's a typical story > from a North Carolina newspaper: From earlier reading (on another list) what has been described is a substance similar to cobwebs falling from the sky. The cobwebs melt or dissolve upon contact. I told a friend who just moved from Bakersfield what was being posted. She said she had seen cobweb-like strings hanging from street light poles. She saw them in October, around Halloween and thought, perhaps, they were decorations, though they were very thin. She touched them and they didn't melt or dissolve on contact. She was ill in her last month in Bakersfield -- though not with an upper respiratory infection. She had three separate bouts of diarrhea in three weeks and was puzzled by that. She did mention, however, that whenever she went to her medical plan's urgent care center to pick up prescriptions, the urgent care centers were packed with coughing people. Perhaps her experiences are related to the spraying -- though she mentioned that people get sick there in October every year -- and that it is usually chalked up to spraying cotton. Samantha DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- Fwd: I just got the following message from William Thomas (http://www.islandnet.com/~wilco) a veteran journalist covering military activity who broke the story on wide- spread accounts of spraying from USAF jets that makes people sick and leaves local hospitals overflowing. USAF Jets Said To Be Spraying Something That Sickens: http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-12-01.html http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-08-05.html Since the story broke, William has been flooded with accounts from around the nation of massive jet-spray operations followed by widespread illness below. I've received many such accounts and I don't know what to make of this: Are these false associations? Are people pulling my leg? Or is this true? Will Thomas says yes! To get an idea of how widespread these jet-poisoning reports are, listen to the 1/25/99 Art Bell show here: http://ww2.broadcast.com/artbell/archive99.html#jan99 As we have seen, with respect to the now-repealed U.S. Code 10(1520), the use of entire "civilian populations" for the testing of any chemical or biological warfare agent has been fully permitted, subject only to minor conditions. The new law, USC 10(1520(a)), puts limits only on any public poisoning conducted by one official. If mass poisoning is defined in the law, can we really say that reports of jets spraying sickness down from the skies is such a big surprise? -- Ian Goddard This could be the biggest and most-covered-up story ever: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:03:48 -0800 (PST) To: Ian Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: William Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Foreign Troops? Hi Ian, . . . please issue the following alert. The clock is tickin... Something huge is going on. In many regions, I can confirm that hospital emergency rooms are filled to overflowing with a sudden epidemic of acute respiratory patients suffering from something doctors cannot diagnose - and that is NOT the flu. Newspapers in Bakersfield, California are reporting jammed emergency rooms. Here's a typical story from a North Carolina newspaper: "FEELING ROTTEN? Outbreak of respiratory illnesses has doctors' offices full, but it's probably not the flu." by Rebecca Lentz, Staff Writer "Call it the creeping crud. Call it a virus. Call it whatever you'd like. But whatever it is, it's miserable. "Adults and children alike are down for the count with the virus. Upper respiratory infections are keeping doctors' offices hopping and the hospital seeing record numbers of patients. "Medac, a walk-in clinic, has been busy with patients complaining of similar symptoms. New Hanover Regional's patient count has been at its highest level in history, with 503 of its available 504 inpatient beds filled on Jan. 7. On Sunday, the patient count stood at 454. Even so, the majority of illnesses aren't influenza, health officials said. This much we know: 1. Reports of odd "contrails" are coming in from 22 states so far. Many sightings occurred months or years before this story was made public - prompting impromptu snapshots and video recordings and calls to the attention of friends and bystanders by people who are quite used to seeing commercial airplanes and normal contrails - and were astonished to see giant X's and grid-patterns woven "like Tic-tac-toe" by large aircraft criss-crossing the sky, often for hours over the same area. 2. These are not "contrails" being reported. The aircraft have been positively identified as USAF Boeing KC-135 and KC-10 air-to-air refueling aircraft spraying an unidentified substance from their tail-booms. 3. The observed tanker aircraft are not engaged in routine formation flying or air-to-air refueling. JP8 fuel inadvertently spilled or dumped to lower landing weights atomizes at jet speeds and does not fall as "cobwebs" observed by police officers and other reliable witnesses. Routine fuel dumping does not continue over hours by multiple aircraft weaving furrows over the same area until clear blue skies are completely hazed over. 4. Now occurring daily, this extremely expensive nationwide "spraying" is deliberate and laid down in specific patterns over hours. 5. These are not "cloud-seeding" activities as no clouds are present and local weather does not turn to rain immediately after these events. 6. In some notable cases, violent and unseasonal storms such as the recent flurry of "summer" tornadoes over Tennessee and heavy snowfall in Bakersfield, CA and Phoenix, AZ have occurred within days of documented (videotaped) spraying. Sharp "spikes" in power output from the USN/USAF "ionospheric heater" known has HAARP have were recorded just before last December's "horizontal snowstorm", localized around Turret Peak, AZ. These weather anomalies - and HAARP - may be related to aerial spraying using fast-dissolving, "smart plastic" polymers to catch HAARP's high-intensity radi