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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/20/01 6:21:05 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought I'd try to learn more about him. The first Well that's an unbiased source huh? Hardly! Propagandists of the worst order. Bill. How is the Nizkor Project propaganda? On what do you base this? And is there anything in the piece on Pierce that is untrue? Is it untrue that he wrote The Turner Diaries? Is the summary of the book incorrect? Are the quotes incorrect? And what of Pierce's own words, from previous broadcasts and interviews? Samantha A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/20/01 7:42:55 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't read Pierce as a neo-Nazi or a white power advocate though he probably is both, I read him as one with whom I agree wholeheartedly on one major subject, and that subject is the evil that is Zionism. Bill. Don't the evils of Zionism views exclude many/most Jews from this harsh judgment? Pierce doesn't discriminate. He paints all Jews with the same broad brush in all that I've seen. You defend him so vehemently. Yikes. Samantha A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- is this better? What's your point? That Pierce is a neo-Nazi? Perhaps he is but that doesn't mean that everything he says is wrong, or evil, or dangerous. what it means is that nothing, and i mean nothing, he writes is worth anything more than the piece of paper it's written on. why not? because he's a liar, and a vicious one at that; thus his arguments are entirely worthless. quite simply, he's a clown and his writings read off as so ludicrous they're almost comical. what it also means is that when you start quoting him *your* arguments also become worthless and your credibility dissapears by the end of the article because i, like most people in internet land, don't know *you*; i only know what you post.and when you start posting literature written by the leader of the american nazi party..well, what is one to think? I don't read Pierce as a neo-Nazi or a white power advocate though he probably is both, I read him as one with whom I agree wholeheartedly on one major subject, and that subject is the evil that is Zionism. would you like to reread that? maybe a couple of times... paranoia of a world wide zionist conspiracy is entirely baseless and completely irrational. why not blame the trees for the logging industry? it can, quite simply, only be explained by nazi/cia brainwashing, inherent racial biases or complete ignorance and/or mental insanity. otherwise, the facts just do *not* add up properly...and trust me here i've spent a long time trying to dig through the shit and pull out some factual information. it's just not there. there's a whole lot of coincidences, fabrication, unjustified conclusions, weak linkages and skewed data; but very few empirical facts. in regards to this - if it looks like a fish, smells like a fish and swims like a fish then it's probably a fish. you've got a fin. the thing is that your average fish has no idea that it is what it is. it just keeps on swimming until it gets eaten... inri np: http://chat.carleton.ca/~jparent2/ If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. - george w. bush A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More on Pierce j2
In a message dated 11/20/01 10:23:51 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are a funny Nazi Pig Shannon. And you are a big talker "J2"...playing your role to a T. Belittle, namecall and otherwise attack those who disagree with your party line. Tell Abe Foxman we say "yo". Bill.
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In a message dated 11/21/01 8:40:06 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is the Nizkor Project propaganda? If ya' have to ask... Answering this would be akin to the Fredrick Tobin set-up...I'll pass. Is it untrue that he wrote "The Turner Diaries?" Is the summary of the book incorrect? Are the quotes incorrect? The Turner Diaries are a novel of fiction. What's the point? I've never read that drivel and am not in the least bit interested so I cannot answer your questions on this subject. I'll also for the 99th time state that I don't agree with Pierce on 99.9% of things...he's a prick and a racist...this however doesn't diminish the fact that he was correct in the piece I forwarded. Bill.
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In a message dated 11/21/01 8:48:29 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't the "evils of Zionism" views exclude many/most Jews from this harsh judgment? Pierce doesn't discriminate. He paints all Jews with the same broad brush in all that I've seen. You defend him so vehemently. Yikes. I don't defend him that vehemently and if you've been perceptive you'd have noted that in durned' near every case I mentioned that I don't much like the guy...playing devil's advocate here and also standing up for the one time in 20 that his weekly speech is pretty much spot-on. Bill.
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In a message dated 11/21/01 3:36:24 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what it means is that nothing, and i mean nothing, he writes is worth anything more than the piece of paper it's written on. why not? because he's a liar What has he lied about? paranoia of a world wide zionist conspiracy is entirely baseless and completely irrational. Well I cannot accept your statement here...I'm not so sure that it's so easily dismissed. Bill.
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/21/01 5:14:03 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How is the Nizkor Project propaganda? If ya' have to ask... Answering this would be akin to the Fredrick Tobin set-up...I'll pass. You know, before I quoted that source, I looked at their funding page to see if the dreaded ADL was behind this org and it wasn't. I had never heard of the Nizkor project before, and I certainly have a lot of respect for orgs that keep the Holocaust front and center as a reminder that if we don't learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it. So you've just thrown out there that they are propagandists and now make a mockery of my question as to why you think that. If there is reason to believe they are propagandists, I'd really like to know. I'm beginning to think that maybe you had never heard of them before either, and call them propagandists simply because they memorialize the Holocaust. Do you think the Holocaust is propaganda, and that 6 million Jews did NOT die at the hands of the Nazis? I'll also for the 99th time state that I don't agree with Pierce on 99.9% of things...he's a prick and a racist...this however doesn't diminish the fact that he was correct in the piece I forwarded. Bill. I believe I've read all your responses to this thread, and you have never before denounced 99.9% of Pierce's ideas. Rather you seem to have been supporting 99.9% and unenthusiastically denouncing the other 0.1% Which brings to mind something else you said - that Pierce just doesn't hide his feelings like most people, that he is open about them. So you think most people are closet anti-semetics, racists and women-haters, and that they hide these opinions? Why would you think that? And yes, I think this subject is just about beaten to death, but I also think it's important. Samantha A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/21/01 5:16:09 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't defend him that vehemently and if you've been perceptive you'd have noted that in durned' near every case I mentioned that I don't much like the guy...playing devil's advocate here and also standing up for the one time in 20 that his weekly speech is pretty much spot-on. Bill. I think devil's advocate sums it up pretty well. So if I'd been perceptive, I wouldn't have concluded that you are a closet anti-semetic, racist misogynist? LOL! Okay. Samantha A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/21/01 5:36:22 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what it means is that nothing, and i mean nothing, he writes is worth anything more than the piece of paper it's written on. why not? because he' s What has he lied about? Well golly, it must be that 99.9% that you said you'd denounced 99 times. Samantha A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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In a message dated 11/21/01 5:41:39 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So you've just thrown out there that they are "propagandists" and now make a mockery of my question as to why you think that I made no mockery. I'm beginning to think that maybe you had never heard of them before either, and call them propagandists simply because they memorialize the Holocaust You don't give a guy much credit do ya'? Yes I am familiar with them via their website...discovered them several years ago...not that I visit them often. So you think most people are closet anti-semetics, racists and women-haters, and that they hide these opinions? Why would you think that? Of course not...as Pierce says most people are lemmings...this I believe firmly. And I am not a woman hater nor a racist...what I am is OPPOSED to Zionism and in favor of TRUTH and nothing but...is that wrong? Bill.
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In a message dated 11/21/01 5:45:03 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So if I'd been perceptive, I wouldn't have concluded that you are a closet anti-semetic, racist misogynist? LOL! That's mean! I love broads..er I mean chicks...am not a racist nor anti-semetic (whatever that IS)...opposed to Zionism I will cop to. Bill.
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In a message dated 11/21/01 5:47:13 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What has he lied about? Well golly, it must be that 99.9% that you said you'd denounced 99 times. There is a difference between lying and being just ignorant. I doubt Pierce lies about anything but he may well be wrong about many things. Bill.
Re: [CTRL] More on Pierce j2
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/20/01 10:23:51 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are a funny Nazi Pig Shannon. And you are a big talker J2...playing your role to a T. Belittle, namecall and otherwise attack those who disagree with your party line. Tell Abe Foxman we say yo. Bill. == You bet Bill. We meet once a month to discuss your attitude. The Jews of the entire world are very concerned that you don't like us and have become a nazi pig. This is very disappointing to Abe. He hopes your mother doesn't find out. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- what it means is that nothing, and i mean nothing, he writes is worth anything more than the piece of paper it's written on. why not? because he's What has he lied about? if ya' have to ask... answering this would be akin to explaining why hitler was a liar. i'll pass. inri np: http://chat.carleton.ca/~jparent2/ If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. - george w. bush A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- --- Samantha L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pseudo-religious entity, the anti-Semitic Cosmotheist Church in West Virginia. define semite = ~~~ http://www.tlio.demon.co.uk/tonyhom.htm http://www.bilderberg.org/cia.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More on Pierce
In a message dated 11/20/01 1:33:39 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought I'd try to learn more about him. The first part is from the Nizkor Project, Well that's an unbiased source huh? Hardly! Propagandists of the worst order. Bill.
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-Caveat Lector- I say Sam and Bill Shannon - might I recommend for a more objective view, the Zundel site? Colleen aka Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Well that's an unbiased source huh? Hardly! Propagandists of the worst order. is this better? http://www.fair.org/extra/9506/grant.html inri np: http://chat.carleton.ca/~jparent2/ If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. - george w. bush A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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In a message dated 11/20/01 7:01:17 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is this better? http://www.fair.org/extra/9506/grant.html What's your point? That Pierce is a "neo-Nazi"? Perhaps he is but that doesn't mean that everything he says is wrong, or evil, or dangerous. If we digged deep enough we could find something on anyone, especially those who write of conspiracy or "fringe" opinion. Pierce doesn't hide his feelings like most and the piece I forwarded from him had nothing to do with "neo-Nazism" and but a few stupid lines about white power, the rest was worth the price of admission. And just like the TV, if you don't like what's on turn the channel...or hit the damned delete button. It's not rocket science. I don't read Pierce as a "neo-Nazi" or a white power advocate though he probably is both, I read him as one with whom I agree wholeheartedly on one major subject, and that subject is the evil that is "Zionism". Bill.
Re: [CTRL] More on Pierce j2
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/20/01 1:33:39 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought I'd try to learn more about him. The first part is from the Nizkor Project, Well that's an unbiased source huh? Hardly! Propagandists of the worst order. Bill. = Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. You are a funny Nazi Pig Shannon. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More on Pierce
-Caveat Lector- (Since the post of Dr. William Pierce's American Dissident Voices Broadcast of November 17, 2001 I thought I'd try to learn more about him. The first part is from the Nizkor Project, Dedicated to the millions of Holocaust victims who suffered and died at the hands of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime. The next parts are direct quotes from Pierce.) Samantha http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/adl/paranoia-as-patriotism/william-pi erce.html William L. Pierce and The Turner Diaries The Turner Diaries, a novel written and published in 1978 by William Pierce, leader of the neo-nazi National Alliance, under the pseudonym Andrew Macdonald, is a fictional account of the activities of a racist, anti-Semitic underground which, through a series of violent acts during the 1990s, gains power in the U.S. and eventually the world. The book describes the bombing of FBI headquarters in Washington, a mortar attack on the Capital building, the destruction of public utilities and communication systems, and the liberation of the nation after atomic bombs have been dropped on several East Coast cities. The book then relates how this new regime, having secured domestic victory, launches another nuclear attack - against Tel Aviv. In the end, the U.S. population is reduced to 50 million Aryans. Jews throughout the world are killed, in accord with the vow of the narrator: If the Organization survives this contest, no Jew will - anywhere. Well [sic] go to the utmost ends of the earth to hunt down the last of Satan's spawn. In this vein, the book refers to Adolf Hitler as the Great One. Author Pierce, who holds a Ph.D. in physics and is a former college instructor in Oregon, has long held racist and anti-Semitic views. In the 1960s he was assistant to George Lincoln Rockwell, founder and head of the American Nazi Party. In the 1980s he was the mentor of Robert Matthews, founder of The Order, who used The Turner Diaries as a blueprint for the group's revolutionary criminal activities. Pierce also heads a pseudo-religious entity, the anti-Semitic Cosmotheist Church in West Virginia. After the Oklahoma City bombing, Pierce acknowledged that someone may have read the book (The Turner Diaries), which he termed a possible inspiration. He also predicted that there would be further acts like this, but that what happended in Oklahoma made little political sense because it was not sustained. One day, Pierce said, there will be real, organized terrorism - aimed at bringing down the government. Pierce wrote another pro-Nazi novel, Hunter, whose hero murders interracial couples, Jews and other minorities. (Anti-Defamation League, 28) - (This is from Pierce's Sept 22, 2001 broadcast. Charming, especially as it pertains to the civil rights movement.) http://zog.to/3/WTC/WTC-08.htm excerpt: And indeed, we can cast the net of blame much wider. We have a system of government in the United States that the Jews have learned to manipulate. With their money and their media they are able to swing elections, buy politicians, and control public policy to suit themselves, without regard for the interests of the American people. After the Second World War they were determined to change American immigration policy in a way that would dilute the White majority with a flood of non-White immigrants, and they found a multitude of White politicians and White clerics and White business men willing to collaborate with them and push through the immigration changes they wanted. And when the Jews launched the so-called civil rights revolution in the 1960s, again they found many thousands of White politicians and clerics and businessmen and lawyers to help them strike down the laws against miscegenation and push through new legislation requiring the racial integration of schools and workplaces and neighborhoods. --- (This is from a 1996 interview with Pierce. This guy is so outrageous, he actually got me laughing with this comment about Anita Hill's complaint against Clarence Thomas.) http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs969d.html excerpt: Talking to her about a pornographic film may have indicated a certain lack of refinement on his part -- at least that would be the case if the two of them were members of a traditional White society, in which gentlemen didn't talk about pornographic films in the presence of ladies, at least not in the office -- but what the hell, the folks who were raising such a fuss about Thomas's behavior are, like both Clarence and Anita themselves, all members of the brave, New World Order society, which is neither White nor traditional. It's a so-called multicultural society in which there are no gentlemen and there are no ladies; there are just male and female people, and the female people are no different from the male people: they are just as bawdy, just as vulgar, just as aggressive. (and on feminism) excerpt: W.L.P.: Irrationality seems to be the rule rather than the exception in
