Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/2002 12:03:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Everyone spies on everyone I thought this was generally an accepted belief. Noone trusts anyone.And who can blame them.But if a nation is caught spying on another nation that is supporting it with money then surely that nation has a right to take away its support.If the nation who is receiving the support is blackmailing them at the same time to go to war on its behalf then what hold do they have over them in the first place? Which brings us neatly back to spying. The Mermaid Now there you have it. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/20/02 10:27:50 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, Thatâs what we give them - they give us a place to test illegal weapons, and have guaranteed access to the oil producing regions of the world. Who has guaranteed access to the oil producing regions of the world? Israel? So anyway WE give Israel at least $6,000,000,000 a year and they spy on us and you have the stones to ask if we spy on them? Talk about gall! Bill. Of course we spy on them. What do you think the Liberty was doing when they shot it up? J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/02 6:14:00 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course we spy on them. What do you think the Liberty was doing when they shot it up? Are you suggesting that what was done to the Liberty is ok? Why not make that suggestion to the survivors and the families of the victims? I'd love to see that! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
Title: Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2 -Caveat Lector- He did not say it was OK He said that Americans were spying on Israelis. Bill you and FLW consistently make these logical leaps and assumptions, and then act as if the person you are writing to said these things instead of you. The question is why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel, but not OK in the other direction.? on 9/22/02 8:02 AM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course we spy on them. What do you think the Liberty was doing when they shot it up? Are you suggesting that what was done to the Liberty is ok? Why not make that suggestion to the survivors and the families of the victims? I'd love to see that! -- - --- -- --- -- Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is a force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. George Washington NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/02 9:30:44 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel, but not OK in the other direction.? In a perfect world it wouldn't be "ok" but in this world we give them billions of our tax dollars a year and defend them like they're our 51st state and to spy on the very people who are essentially propping them up is obscene. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
Title: Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2 -Caveat Lector- Its not a perfect world. People and states pursue their own interests. Some of those interest are inimical to others. The others want to know. This is true about Israelis looking for anti-Semitic or anti-Israeli groups in the US and elsewhere. It is true of American spies in countries we are allies with. This is the information age. There will be information gatherers of all types with all sorts of agendas. You understand this this understanding is central to this very list we are on. Welcome to the 21st century. So now lets try again, and see if a real full answer comes this time. Why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel? on 9/22/02 10:51 AM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/02 9:30:44 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel, but not OK in the other direction.? In a perfect world it wouldn't be ok but in this world we give them billions of our tax dollars a year and defend them like they're our 51st state and to spy on the very people who are essentially propping them up is obscene. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/www.ctrl.org/A" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlArchives" of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A" To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Truth is more of a stranger than fiction. -- Mark Twain NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/02 10:38:21 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So now lets try again, and see if a real full answer comes this time. Why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel? Thanks for the 101 civics lesson. It is not ok for the benefactors of American tax dollars to spy on the people who are propping them up and protecting them from what decades of abuse and hatred have wrought. If anyone thinks their tax dollars are better spent paying off an ungrateful bunch of whiners and murderers than shoring up our borders and taking care of our own they are pathetically UN-American and might consider moving to Occupied Palestine. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2 -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/02 6:14:00 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course we spy on them. What do you think the Liberty was doing when they shot it up? Are you suggesting that what was done to the Liberty is ok? Why not make that suggestion to the survivors and the families of the victims? I'd love to see that! Bill. Don't play games jerkoff. The question was do WE spy on Israel. My answer was yes. The Liberty being that example. Nowhere in my response above do I say it was ok. But if that was indeed the case, then ANY country has the right to protect itself. As for telling the the relatives and survivors, they all knew the risks of being in the military on a spy ship. And the other question is what made it OK for the individuals on the Liberty to spy on an ally and pass the information to Israel's enemies WHILE THEY WERE FIGHTING A WAR? Is that ok Shannon? Who is screwing who here? I don't see them or you or ANYBODY else for that matter make a big deal out of an identical situation where our ally Sadam shot up a US spyship in the Gulf while it was spying on him and Iran during the Iran/Iraq war. Sadam said it was an accident, and we dropped the issue. This is what we do when we get caught. The point here is that the US spies on its friends and allies when it wants to. All countries spy on all other countries. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
Title: Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2 -Caveat Lector- Everyone spies on everyone I thought this was generally an accepted belief. Noone trusts anyone.And who can blame them.But if a nation is caught spying on another nation that is supporting it with money then surely that nation has a right to take away its support.If the nation who is receiving the support is blackmailing them at the same time to go to war on its behalf then what hold do they have over them in the first place? Which brings us neatly back to spying. The Mermaid - Original Message - From: thew To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2 -Caveat Lector- Its not a perfect world.People and states pursue their own interests. Some of those interest are inimical to others. The others want to know. This is true about Israelis looking for anti-Semitic or anti-Israeli groups in the US and elsewhere. It is true of American spies in countries we are allies with. This is the information age. There will be information gatherers of all types with all sorts of agendas. You understand this this understanding is central to this very list we are on. Welcome to the 21st century.So now lets try again, and see if a real full answer comes this time. Why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel?on 9/22/02 10:51 AM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/02 9:30:44 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel, but not OK in the other direction.?In a perfect world it wouldn't be "ok" but in this world we give them billions of our tax dollars a year and defend them like they're our 51st state and to spy on the very people who are essentially propping them up is obscene.Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om-- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- -"Truth is more of a stranger than fiction." -- Mark Twain NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTE
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
Title: Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2 -Caveat Lector- You are generally a smart well spoken guy, these outbursts dont serve you. Your statements rest on this assumption that all Americans are working together, in lockstep, towards some national goal and you know it isnt true. More to the point, you are once again telling my why its not OK for Israel to spy on the US I asked why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel. Our tax dollars have been misspent propping up every brutal dictator who ever killed a Communist, or just happened to have a barrel of oil handy. Why is Israel the only one that sticks in your craw so? Why not say that people can move to Saudi Arabia, or America occupied panama, or occupied Jordan, Or Occupied Chechnya? on 9/22/02 11:55 AM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/02 10:38:21 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So now lets try again, and see if a real full answer comes this time. Why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel? Thanks for the 101 civics lesson. It is not ok for the benefactors of American tax dollars to spy on the people who are propping them up and protecting them from what decades of abuse and hatred have wrought. If anyone thinks their tax dollars are better spent paying off an ungrateful bunch of whiners and murderers than shoring up our borders and taking care of our own they are pathetically UN-American and might consider moving to Occupied Palestine. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/www.ctrl.org/A" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlArchives" of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A" To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om -- Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. Sir Winston Churchill NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/02 11:01:05 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't play games jerkoff. You sure are angry...did your pawnshop get robbed or what? Namecalling got you in trouble before and it seems to me you haven't learned a thing. Nothing funnier to me than an angry,slobbering Zionazi! Thanks for the chuckle! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/02 11:03:13 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are generally a smart well spoken guy, these outbursts donât serve you. What outbursts? Just today I was called, by your partner in crime, a "jerkoff", "racist", "paranoid", a "racist prick" and told to "fuck off"...I am not the one with the anger management issues nor am outbursting! Our tax dollars have been misspent propping up every brutal dictator who ever killed a Communist, or just happened to have a barrel of oil handy. Why is Israel the only one that sticks in your craw so? Why not say that people can move to Saudi Arabia, or America occupied panama, or occupied Jordan, Or Occupied Chechnya? I agree that we have in the past misspent tons of tax dollars propping up people and regimes that were dispicable, and I have loudly spoken against that. Israel is only country that we spend that obscene amount of money on, that's why it sticks in my craw. No matter what we send them the check...for years and years. It need to stop. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2
Title: Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2 -Caveat Lector- The US absolutely has the right to pull support from Israel if it wants to. (I dont think it wants to the benefits outweigh any harm a little spying can do) I dont think the war on Iraq is being thrust on us by Israel, Bush has a hard-on for this that comes from being in bed with the Saudis the Bahrainis the Kuwaiti's and his other oil buddies/masters. Besides Saddam made his daddy look bad and cry. on 9/22/02 12:19 PM, Mermaid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Everyone spies on everyone I thought this was generally an accepted belief. Noone trusts anyone.And who can blame them.But if a nation is caught spying on another nation that is supporting it with money then surely that nation has a right to take away its support.If the nation who is receiving the support is blackmailing them at the same time to go to war on its behalf then what hold do they have over them in the first place? Which brings us neatly back to spying. The Mermaid - Original Message - From: thew mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] NEST OF ISRAELI AGENTS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT --j2 -Caveat Lector- Its not a perfect world. People and states pursue their own interests. Some of those interest are inimical to others. The others want to know. This is true about Israelis looking for anti-Semitic or anti-Israeli groups in the US and elsewhere. It is true of American spies in countries we are allies with. This is the information age. There will be information gatherers of all types with all sorts of agendas. You understand this this understanding is central to this very list we are on. Welcome to the 21st century. So now lets try again, and see if a real full answer comes this time. Why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel? on 9/22/02 10:51 AM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/02 9:30:44 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is why is it OK for the US to spy on Israel, but not OK in the other direction.? In a perfect world it wouldn't be ok but in this world we give them billions of our tax dollars a year and defend them like they're our 51st state and to spy on the very people who are essentially propping them up is obscene. Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/www.ctrl.org/A" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlArchives" of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A" To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Truth is more of a stranger than fiction. -- Mark Twain NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/www.ctrl.org/A" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlArchives" of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A" ===
