Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >You are equating homelessness with mental illness. If you had ever spent >any time around homeless people you would know better. Some mentally ill >people are homeless. But not all homeless people are mentally ill. Many are either laid off, or working at jobs that don't pay enough for them to be able to afford to rent a place to stay... I've worked with charities helping these people...many are families, living out of their cars... >Any night of the week you can literally see people huddled against the >cold in the doorways of bank buildings that are locked shut. In NYC they used to sleep in the subway stations and Grand Central Terminal, but Guliani doesn't allow that anymore...you'll get arrested for sleeping in the stations now... So the great unwashed now sleep outside, out of sight of all the middle-class commuters... June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- You are welcome to sleep on the street. On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:55:50 -0800 Nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > -Caveat Lector- > > >Would Leahy be saying this if it were HIS house being trashed? > > > > He's just one more American. That means that it's exactly as much > his as > it is yours. His taxes, as well as your own, pay for the clean up. > > Personally, I think the White House ought to be used for a homeless > shelter. As long as anybody has to sleep in the street, no > politician, > particularly the president, deserves a roof over his head. Neither > do > we. > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing > propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, > mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different > groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and > thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, > and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives > of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- TEST --- Nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > You are equating homelessness with mental illness. > If you had ever spent > any time around homeless people you would know > better. Some mentally ill > people are homeless. Others are not. Some mentally > ill people not only > live indoors, they even hold political office. > > Some homeless people are, in fact, mentally ill. > Most homeless people > are merely broke. A significant proportion are women > and children, > refugees from battering and abandonment. > > You really, really ought to do some research into > the field before you > pontificate. Youre making a major fool of yourself > by betraying such > ignorance. > > > Besides, I never said anything about > institutionalizing the White > House as a homeless shelter. I propose we throw out > the people who live > there and leave the doors unlocked. The homeless > people can manage the > rest by themselves. They dont need institutions. > They need a roof over > their heads. Americas greatest shame is that paper > sleeps in a palace > while people sleep in the street. > > Any night of the week you can literally see people > huddled against the > cold in the doorways of bank buildings that are > locked shut. This is > unconscionable. Any society that allows human beings > to suffer > needlessly is a sick society. Our institutions > should serve us, not the > other way around. America needs its reset button > hit. > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > =CTRL is a discussion & informational > exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot > soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many > half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically > by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the > spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the > validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you > read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not > apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > ===Archives > Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives > of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > ===To > subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] > send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research > List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- You are equating homelessness with mental illness. If you had ever spent any time around homeless people you would know better. Some mentally ill people are homeless. Others are not. Some mentally ill people not only live indoors, they even hold political office. Some homeless people are, in fact, mentally ill. Most homeless people are merely broke. A significant proportion are women and children, refugees from battering and abandonment. You really, really ought to do some research into the field before you pontificate. Youre making a major fool of yourself by betraying such ignorance. Besides, I never said anything about institutionalizing the White House as a homeless shelter. I propose we throw out the people who live there and leave the doors unlocked. The homeless people can manage the rest by themselves. They dont need institutions. They need a roof over their heads. Americas greatest shame is that paper sleeps in a palace while people sleep in the street. Any night of the week you can literally see people huddled against the cold in the doorways of bank buildings that are locked shut. This is unconscionable. Any society that allows human beings to suffer needlessly is a sick society. Our institutions should serve us, not the other way around. America needs its reset button hit. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- Personally, I think the White House ought to be used for a homeless shelter. As long as anybody has to sleep in the street, no politician, particularly the president, deserves a roof over his head. Neither do we. What sophomoric nonsense. In the '60's "De-Institutionalization" became all the rage among "reformers." Over the years millions of mentally ill folks were thrown into the streets. Politicians loved it. State Hospitals for the mentally ill were some of the most expensive state budget items. "Close 'em down, give 'em pills" became the catch word of "reformers." OTOH, when you complain about subsidizing politicians, you make more sense. flw http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- >Would Leahy be saying this if it were HIS house being trashed? He's just one more American. That means that it's exactly as much his as it is yours. His taxes, as well as your own, pay for the clean up. Personally, I think the White House ought to be used for a homeless shelter. As long as anybody has to sleep in the street, no politician, particularly the president, deserves a roof over his head. Neither do we. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- --- MICHAEL SPITZER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff > > Thursday, Jan. 25, 2001 4:32 p.m. EST > > Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing Would Leahy be saying this if it were HIS house being trashed? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NM: Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing
-Caveat Lector- With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff Thursday, Jan. 25, 2001 4:32 p.m. EST Top Judiciary Dem Leahy Defends White House Trashing Ranking Senate Judiciary Committee Democrat Patrick Leahy said Thursday that White House vandalism by departing Clinton aides doesn't warrant investigation, because the perpetrators were merely following the example set by the previous Bush administration. "You know, the same issue came up when former President Bush left," Leahy told WKDR Burlington, Vt. radio host Mark Johnson. "They found on some of the furniture in the White House, they had laminated [former] President Bush's photograph onto it when the Clinton people came in," said Leahy, adding that the new administration had to spend "a great deal of money" to undo the damage. Leahy also charged that aides to the current president's father had "moved a number of things" and "changed a number of the computers around so that it would take them a long time to have them reconfigured." "I thought it was wrong when the Bush people did it," said the Vermont senator. "I think it's wrong when the Clinton people did it." Even if true, the apparently new charges of Bush White House vandalism, at least as described by Leahy, don't rise to the level of what allegedly transpired last Saturday, when telephone and computer cables were cut, desks were overturned, trash was dumped everywhere, and White House hallways weresprayed with obscene graffiti. Still, Leahy said he hoped there would be no investigation into the Inauguration Day destruction. "We didn't go investigating the Bush people for doing it and I just think that President George W. Bush is going to take the same position President Clinton did - where the Clinton people did not go after his father's aides for doing the things they did." Leahy did criticize Saturday's White House vandalism as "somewhat tasteless." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
