[CTRL] Nationalism: Nemesis of NWO

2001-09-16 Thread Dale Stonehouse
The goal of the New World Order is to unite the world under one government and, some say, one religion.
According to some theorists, the events of last week were carefully planned and designed to facilitate implementation of the New World Order.
And yet, nationalism in the U.S.A. increased perhaps ten-fold as a result of the destruction and plane crashes. Were the planners stupid enough to think they would get an opposite reaction? If they are that stupid, are they still smart enough to plan such an operation? If they did know nationalism would be stronger, how do they plan to use that to enable the New World Order?
I do not know the answers to these questions. Isuspect nationalism is just one more form of religion or belief system that must be torn down before humans can peacefully coexist on Earth. Given the strength of religious beliefs and nationalism in the people of Earth, it is difficult to see how a global government can be established without eliminating a large majority of the planet's population.

Re: [CTRL] Nationalism: Nemesis of NWO

2001-09-16 Thread c.

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 The goal of the New World Order is to unite the world under one government

the one govenmnet is the america government, been doing it's best to change
other government's policies for years.

 and, some say, one religion.

 According to some theorists, the events of last week were carefully
planned and designed to facilitate implementation of the New World Order.

 And yet, nationalism in the U.S.A. increased perhaps ten-fold as a result
of the destruction and plane crashes. Were the planners stupid enough to
think they would get an opposite reaction? If they are that stupid, are they
still smart enough to plan such an operation? If they did know nationalism
would be stronger, how do they plan to use that to enable the New World
Order?


i doubt very much that america's national interest will alter too much
within a NWO. remember - the mandate being asked of the world is for america
to operate outside her borders- with the support of her partners.

outside of amerika- the new world order is defined as amerika uber alles

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Re: [CTRL] Nationalism: Nemesis of NWO

2001-09-16 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 9/16/01 11:07:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  the mandate being asked of the world is for america

to operate outside her borders- with the support of her partners. 

Yes, c. We learned how to do this from the British, and we learned it well.

BHoward

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Re: [CTRL] Nationalism: Nemesis of NWO

2001-09-16 Thread RevCOAL

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On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Dale Stonehouse wrote:
And yet, nationalism in the U.S.A. increased perhaps ten-fold as a
result of the destruction and plane crashes. Were the planners stupid
enough to think they would get an opposite reaction? If they are that
stupid, are they still smart enough to plan such an operation? If they
did know nationalism would be stronger, how do they plan to use that to
enable the New World Order?

Ah, but look at all the nations that are now aligning with us, even
Pakistan...

Look at all the official prayer services held around the world on Friday
for victims of the disaster...events this week have indeed work to make
people all feel 'as one'...


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Re: [CTRL] Nationalism: Nemesis of NWO

2001-09-16 Thread Samantha L.

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Dale,

  You make a good point.  My guess is that manipulating the US public into
giving up their civil liberties is a far more important goal in this stage of
the game than nationalism one way or another.   They'll come up with some
scheme down the road to convince Americans it's in their best interest to
give US sovereignty over to a global entity.

Samantha

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 According to some theorists, the events of last week were carefully planned
 and designed to facilitate implementation of the New World Order.

  And yet, nationalism in the U.S.A. increased perhaps ten-fold as a result
of
 the destruction and plane crashes. Were the planners stupid enough to think
 they would get an opposite reaction? If they are that stupid, are they
still
 smart enough to plan such an operation? If they did know nationalism would
be
 stronger, how do they plan to use that to enable the New World Order?

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Re: [CTRL] Nationalism: Nemesis of NWO

2001-09-16 Thread Dale Stonehouse
 I agree, Samantha. The Bill of Rights is the one thing in the way of their goals. They know they can't repeal those amendments so they must cover them over with "necessary for security" policies and legislation that will function as de facto repeal.
 "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Caveat Lector-Dale,You make a good point. My guess is that manipulating the US public intogiving up their civil liberties is a far more important goal in this stage ofthe game than nationalism one way or another. They'll come up with somescheme down the road to convince Americans it's in their best interest togive US sovereignty over to a global entity.