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-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, flw wrote: Here is the latest on Osama bin laden: snip Were your comments supposed to be humor? If not, then I just don't understand:( AM I ALONE HERE?!? In my opinion... No wait! It *is* a FACT that ALL of your comments are just plain ludicrous, and have no more than comedic entertainment value, IF EVEN THAT! Such claims alone (as they are offered up in your post, i.e., without proof or any reasons as to why and how you can claim such things as if they were fact) are no more than a waste of time and print. AT BEST, such unsupported claims are nothing more than wildly absurd allegations warranting no serious attention at all (i.e., totally worthless) UNTIL/UNLESS they can be presented with at least a modicum of basis in fact. I'm sincerely wondering WHY it should even be necessary to go over this AT ALL, let alone periodically, as I and others have so many times ?? Look...I only write these things so that ppl's posts might be less prone to ridicule, AND, to make this list, in general, more academic and credible, so that "outsiders" would be [upon reading some of our threads] less prone to associate us with "conspiracy wackos" (like Mel's character in the movie, and more likely to read our stuff, and, AT VERY LEAST, think that most of our arguments, hypotheses, and our general discourse here to be advanced in a logical and analytical way, i.e., that the stuff we advance is AT LEAST POSSIBLE. Know what I mean? SO, here I am AGAIN, trying to benefit US ALL by attempting to explain things that should be obvious. Yet, for reasons I sincerely do not understand, for some *odd* reason, instead of feeling that "extraordinary claims require extraordinay proof," at least *some* of us apparently think the opposite of this Carl Sagan plattitude to be true, namely that really wild claims need NO substantiation AT ALL!!! For some crazy reason, some of us seem to somehow be completely overlooking (or forgotten) the FACT that the wilder the claim, the more support that SHOULD accompany it. What's more, what seems really strange to me is that posts containing such bizarre claims, while offering ZERO substantiation, are almost common on CTRL?!?!?! What's up with THAT?!? Isn't it obvious that this type of behavior should NOT occur EVER, let alone by those that wish there comments to be taken seriously by any logical person?? WHY IS THIS!?! Instead of being WAY MORE sensitive to the quite logical request for substantiation that such wild claims SHOULD always illicit, the opposite seems to be all too prevalent here on CTRL, namely, that some of us apparently think that the more bizarre their claims, the less proof is needed??? Isn't this back-assed-wards TO THE EXTREME!?!? I mean, SURE, *if* you are trying to portray and perpetuate conspiracy theorists as a bunch of fruit cakes, then PLEASE KEEP THIS CRAP UP! Other wise, try to remember that the more wild and/or unbelievable a theory, the LESS it should be advanced as STAND ALONE FACT! Am I wrong here? I just think that such basic and elementary concepts as these are really ANYTHING BUT complicated...i.e., it don't take a rocket scientist or brain surgeon to understand these simple things, DOES IT?? AGAIN, all of this really *SHOULD* go without mentioning. One last time... In order for such wild statements to be accepted as even remotely possible by any logical and/or analytical readers (EVEN IF THESE CLAIMS REALLY ARE TRUE), such extraordinary claims, if not accompanied by evidence of some kind, should ALWAYS be prefaced with a statement of qualification, e.g., that such claims as presented (i.e., without ANY substantiation whatsoever) are only "the opinion of the author," are only possible THEORIES suggested for discussion purposes," etc., BECAUSE, and for the umpteenth time, until such time that claims like these can be offered in OTHER THAN the stand-alone manner in which they are presented here (i.e., until they can be supported with at least a tad of evidence, etc.), well, then plain and simple: such crap is exactly that, i.e., CRAP! Seriously, do yourself and the rest of us a favor. Before ANY OF US go writing things like this, just THINK! THINK what any half educated, impartial, and logical person will think upon reading your posts. IF you want your stuff to be read and accepted in the future, then just keep repeating to yoursself this: Either offer some sort of substantiation for your claims, the more bizarre they are, THE MORE SUBSTANTIATION THAT *IS* NEEDED ... OR, DON'T FORGET TO ADVISE YOUR AUDIANCE THAT YOUR OFFERINGS ARE YOUR OPINION ONLY! I mean COME ON! I just don't get it :( Most sincerely, Mike P.S. I am NOT offering any of the above as "moderation." It is offered as a SUGGESTION ONLY, from just another concerned CTRL member that is simply trying to help. In other words, no one is required to heed my advice, BUT, I'm absolutely certain that accepting/abiding by
Re: [CTRL] Osama bin laden
-Caveat Lector- From: "MICHAEL SPITZER" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Were your comments supposed to be humor? If not, then I just don't understand:( AM I ALONE HERE?!? Yes. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- So, if the american embassies are technically US land, then why doesnt the US hold the trial in abstentia ? or show the evidence for his guilt to the ruling party in afghanistan (as they have asked) in order for him to be extradited. i mean, if the US really wanted him to come to trial, couldnt the goverment even try to show what evidence it has? another thing, how come he has only come to light lately ? hasnt he been blamed for the bombing of the world trade center and an assasination attempt on the pope and we only hear of him now ? is it because of 'evidence' that has come to light recently (using the term loosely) from the CIA ? the same CIA that was underhand enough to flood the country it is defending with drugs ? im just curious From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Osama bin laden Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:08:30 -0500 -Caveat Lector- Well Johannes - Osama bin Laden is a Moslem and obvioiusly an avenger of blood straight out of the OT. So the Koran is a peaceful book and it makes me wonder about these so called Kings in Holy Land..recently Islamic law comes down pretty hard on people but look at this straight out of Old Testament - Rule of Law for Israel? And they put a price on Osama's head? Who once worked for our CIA and wants to restore rightful heir to throne in Saudi Arabia - So I wonder about the avengers of blood - even to the two men on a horse ..these men believe their are God's messengers with legal right to execute those who do them harm - even Clinton said "let them get the first shot"..but he forgets culpability law - and provocation - such thing even as fighting words... What do you think of this ritual legal murder keeping in mind a King or a Queen or a President can by Executive Action order execution of whom they please - as Clinton ordered execution of innocents at Waco for he used the Military and UN no doubt - look at the avengers of blood who now await him? He would probably rather deal with them than Hiliary Saba Those embassies - no proof Osama bin Laden did it, but he, is the bogie man is he not - a catch 22? USS Cole - I still remember USS Liberty The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Deuteronomy, chapter 19 "1": When the LORD thy God hath cut off the nations, whose land the LORD thy God giveth thee, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their cities, and in their houses; "2": Thou shalt separate three cities for thee in the midst of thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee to possess it. "3": Thou shalt prepare thee a way, and divide the coasts of thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee to inherit, into three parts, that every slayer may flee thither. "4": And this is the case of the slayer, which shall flee thither, that he may live: Whoso killeth his neighbour ignorantly, whom he hated not in time past; "5": As when a man goeth into the wood with his neighbour to hew wood, and his hand fetcheth a stroke with the axe to cut down the tree, and the head slippeth from the helve, and lighteth upon his neighbour, that he die; he shall flee unto one of those cities, and live: "6": Lest the avenger of the blood pursue the slayer, while his heart is hot, and overtake him, because the way is long, and slay him; whereas he was not worthy of death, inasmuch as he hated him not in time past. "7": Wherefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt separate three cities for thee. "8": And if the LORD thy God enlarge thy coast, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers, and give thee all the land which he promised to give unto thy fathers; "9": If thou shalt keep all these commandments to do them, which I command thee this day, to love the LORD thy God, and to walk ever in his ways; then shalt thou add three cities more for thee, beside these three: "10": That innocent blood be not shed in thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and so blood be upon thee. "11": But if any man hate his neighbour, and lie in wait for him, and rise up against him, and smite him mortally that he die, and fleeth into one of these cities: "12": Then the elders of his city shall send and fetch him thence, and deliver him into the hand of the avenger of blood, that he may die. "13": Thine eye shall not pity him, but thou shalt put away the guilt of innocent blood from Israel, that it may go well with thee. "14": Thou shalt not remove thy neighbour's landmark, which they of old time have set in thine inheritance, which thou shalt inherit in the land that the LORD thy God giveth thee to possess it. "15": One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two wi
Re: [CTRL] Osama bin laden
-Caveat Lector- Here is the latest on Osama bin laden: 1. Osama bin laden was the secret guiding hand behind the massive plot to deprive negroes and the elderly from casting ballots in Fla. His agents cleverly used sandpaper to dull the tips of the punch card pens to prevent the "chads" from falling out. Osama spread the dirty rumor among Miami's elderly Jewish Leftists that Buchanan's real name was "Bukanin." 2. Osama "set up" Linda Chaveshe was the one who sent Margaret Mercado to live with Chaves. He secretly encouraged Mercado to mop floors and wash dishes without Chaves' knowledge while Chaves was busy at the Mexican border helping the "undocumented" cross the Rio Grande. 3. Osama's personally thwarted Al Gore's election by having his stooge and agent, Justice Rhenquist manipulate the SCOTUS to defeat Gore. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has long suspected Rhenquist of being a terroristnow it has been confirmed. 4. Osama's agents leaked GWB's DUI conviction to the media the weekend before the election. Also it has now been revealed that Osama's agents anonymously sent cases of Colt .45 to GWB on a daily basis for many years. 5. Monica Lewinsky was a long time "sleeper agent" in the service of Osama. Clinton became suspicious when he heard Monica whispering "Allah Akbar" while performing oral sex. 6. The most disgusting nefarious plot of all: Osama is responsible for Hillary's election to the Senate. He personally arranged for that incompetent Lazio to be Hillary's Republican opponent. With Hillary in the Senate Osama knows that it is now only a matter of time before America is finally and utterly destroyed. THIS MAN MUST BE STOPPED!!! flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Osama bin laden
-Caveat Lector- Let me rephrase that. Why is the US asking for the extradition of Osama bin Laden for the bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam and not the countries (Kenya and Tanzania) where it actually took place ? I mean, if i shot a man in USA i wouldnt be expected to be extradited to Sweden. -Caveat Lector- How do you extradite a whole country? Not that I'd put it past the US to try. On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:21:34 - goolie smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- why is it that the US is asking for the extradition of Osama bin laden and not Kenya and Tanzania ? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Why is the US asking for the extradition of Osama bin Laden for the bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam and not the countries (Kenya and Tanzania) where it actually took place ? I mean, if i shot a man in USA i wouldnt be expected to be extradited to Sweden. US embassies are considered to be a part of the United States, regardless of the country that the embassy is in. The bombings of the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania both technically took place on US soil. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- From: "goolie smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why is the US asking for the extradition of Osama bin Laden for the bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam and not the countries (Kenya and Tanzania) where it actually took place ? Because the bombings were of U.S. embassies; embassies are considered 'sovereign territories' of the countries that own them, therefore while the embassies were located in the countries of Kenya and Tanzania, the embassies themselves are considered U.S. territory. Therefore the bombings were 'on' U.S. soil, not Kenyan or Tanzanian. If the situation was reversed, say the Kenyan embassy in the U.S. was bombed, then it would be considered a crime committed not only to, but on, Kenyan territory, and as such those responsible would be tried in Kenya by Kenyan authorities. Although in actual practice, one would expect the FBI to be involved, too... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Also I believe that in some circumstances, US courts have decided they have juristiction over crimes committed in other countries where there is no chance of a trial happening in that country. That's not including war crimes trials either. And of course if someone is kidnapped in a foreign country and smuggled illegally to the US, that is legal too according to US courts. On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:37:05 -0500 Ynr Chyldz Wyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "goolie smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why is the US asking for the extradition of Osama bin Laden for the bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam and not the countries (Kenya and Tanzania) where it actually took place ? Because the bombings were of U.S. embassies; embassies are considered 'sovereign territories' of the countries that own them, therefore while the embassies were located in the countries of Kenya and Tanzania, the embassies themselves are considered U.S. territory. Therefore the bombings were 'on' U.S. soil, not Kenyan or Tanzanian. If the situation was reversed, say the Kenyan embassy in the U.S. was bombed, then it would be considered a crime committed not only to, but on, Kenyan territory, and as such those responsible would be tried in Kenya by Kenyan authorities. Although in actual practice, one would expect the FBI to be involved, too... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- Well Johannes - Osama bin Laden is a Moslem and obvioiusly an avenger of blood straight out of the OT. So the Koran is a peaceful book and it makes me wonder about these so called Kings in Holy Land..recently Islamic law comes down pretty hard on people but look at this straight out of Old Testament - Rule of Law for Israel? And they put a price on Osama's head? Who once worked for our CIA and wants to restore rightful heir to throne in Saudi Arabia - So I wonder about the avengers of blood - even to the two men on a horse ..these men believe their are God's messengers with legal right to execute those who do them harm - even Clinton said "let them get the first shot"..but he forgets culpability law - and provocation - such thing even as fighting words... What do you think of this ritual legal murder keeping in mind a King or a Queen or a President can by Executive Action order execution of whom they please - as Clinton ordered execution of innocents at Waco for he used the Military and UN no doubt - look at the avengers of blood who now await him? He would probably rather deal with them than Hiliary Saba Those embassies - no proof Osama bin Laden did it, but he, is the bogie man is he not - a catch 22? USS Cole - I still remember USS Liberty The King James Bible at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Deuteronomy, chapter 19 "1": When the LORD thy God hath cut off the nations, whose land the LORD thy God giveth thee, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their cities, and in their houses; "2": Thou shalt separate three cities for thee in the midst of thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee to possess it. "3": Thou shalt prepare thee a way, and divide the coasts of thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee to inherit, into three parts, that every slayer may flee thither. "4": And this is the case of the slayer, which shall flee thither, that he may live: Whoso killeth his neighbour ignorantly, whom he hated not in time past; "5": As when a man goeth into the wood with his neighbour to hew wood, and his hand fetcheth a stroke with the axe to cut down the tree, and the head slippeth from the helve, and lighteth upon his neighbour, that he die; he shall flee unto one of those cities, and live: "6": Lest the avenger of the blood pursue the slayer, while his heart is hot, and overtake him, because the way is long, and slay him; whereas he was not worthy of death, inasmuch as he hated him not in time past. "7": Wherefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt separate three cities for thee. "8": And if the LORD thy God enlarge thy coast, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers, and give thee all the land which he promised to give unto thy fathers; "9": If thou shalt keep all these commandments to do them, which I command thee this day, to love the LORD thy God, and to walk ever in his ways; then shalt thou add three cities more for thee, beside these three: "10": That innocent blood be not shed in thy land, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and so blood be upon thee. "11": But if any man hate his neighbour, and lie in wait for him, and rise up against him, and smite him mortally that he die, and fleeth into one of these cities: "12": Then the elders of his city shall send and fetch him thence, and deliver him into the hand of the avenger of blood, that he may die. "13": Thine eye shall not pity him, but thou shalt put away the guilt of innocent blood from Israel, that it may go well with thee. "14": Thou shalt not remove thy neighbour's landmark, which they of old time have set in thine inheritance, which thou shalt inherit in the land that the LORD thy God giveth thee to possess it. "15": One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. "16": If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong; "17": Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days; "18": And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother; "19": Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you. "20": And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you. "21": And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. So I believe this is the High Tribunal and then they send out the mafia killerslike Ehud in the bible murdered Eglon saying he had a present from God - did the Chinese ever do anything about the blowing up of their Embassy in the Balkans - most favored nation most forgiving? For
[CTRL] Osama bin laden
-Caveat Lector- why is it that the US is asking for the extradition of Osama bin laden and not Kenya and Tanzania ? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- How do you extradite a whole country? Not that I'd put it past the US to try. On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:21:34 - goolie smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- why is it that the US is asking for the extradition of Osama bin laden and not Kenya and Tanzania ? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
