[CTRL] Armed Australian Agents Attack Unarmed Women Children
-Caveat Lector- http://www.bigwig.net/softwaredesign/aus/spooks.html Armed Australian Agents Attack Unarmed Women Children ...while at the same time in America, furious demonstrators march on Donald Rumsfeld's private home in New Mexico Copyright Joe Vialls, 31 October 2002 Masked goons wearing flak jackets and wielding sub-machine guns approach a home silently just before dawn. Then acting on a silent hand signal from their leader, they all break into a jog trot and fan out around the house. The first two demolish the front door with sledgehammers, while the other six simultaneously smash windows at the sides and rear of the small suburban dwelling. Screams can be heard from inside as these apparitions from hell burst into the bedrooms and force the unarmed occupants face-down on the floor. A woman and her four small children lie sobbing hysterically, while the âbraveâ leader of the masked goons sticks a Glock semi-automatic pistol up her husbandâs nose, and cuffs his hands behind his back. Readers could be pardoned for thinking this was a scene from the old Stalinist Russia, or maybe just everyday brutal Jewish oppression of Palestinians in Palestine, but they would be wrong. This is 5.15 a.m. on 30 October 2002 in the sleepy suburbs of Perth, Western Australia, and the brutal masked goons are acting on the direct warrant of Daryl Williams, Australiaâs equivalent to Donald Rumsfeld. Just like Rumsfeldâs prisoners illegally kidnapped and held in Cuba, the only crime this Australian family had committed was that of being Muslim, and thus causing political paranoia in Canberra. As Mr Williams himself rather foolishly admitted on national television, the goon operation, âis directed only at individuals who MAY have SOME KNOWLEDGE of J.I. [Jemaah Islamiah] in Australia. An illegal operation, perhaps? It certainly was. Australian law states that if the Australian Security Intelligence Organization [ASIO] has concerns about specific individuals, then those individuals may be approached to make voluntary statements on the matter. This is understood by police officers to mean making an appointment by telephone, or knocking politely on the front door during daylight hours. There was nothing at all voluntary about this operation, which horrified and outraged the lady living next door: âThey broke down the door with sledgehammers. They were carrying machine guns and wearing black helmets and flak jackets, with balaclavas covering their faces. It was very frightening to look at, like something from a movie set. I was shaking and terrified, it was as though we had gone back fifty years to Nazi Germany.â Daryl Williams has clearly made the same mistake as Donald Rumsfeld, apparently believing that because he is a âpowerful officialâ, he can do whatever he wants to whomever he wants, whenever he wants. Actually, as megalomaniacs go, both men are actually on solid historical ground here. Atilla the Hun and Joe Stalin thought exactly the same way. The Perth family raided by the masked goons are ethnic Indonesian Muslims who have lived quietly in Perth since 1989, with the oldest child preparing to sit high school exams, and the youngest only two years of age. The shocking âcrimeâ their father âmayâ have had some âknowledgeâ of, was visiting Sydney back in 1996 to listen to a lecture given by Abu Bakar Bashir, who according to the media is,â now under arrest in Jakarta and a key suspect in the Bali bombings.â After harassing the terrified family for six hours, the armed and masked goons left without pressing any charges or making any arrests, proving in absolute terms what Mr Williams had unwisely said on nationwide television. Whether or not the innocent occupant âmayâ have had some âknowledgeâ of a lecture given by Bashir back in 1996 [long before ASIO made him into a âTerroristâ last week], could very easily have been established by a simple legal telephone call, or a simple legal knock on the door during daylight hours. The elderly and very frail Abu Bakar Bashir himself, could only be a viable suspect if he had somehow managed to steal an Israeli micro nuclear device from Dimona in The Negev Desert, which seems most unlikely. No matter, the Mossad had to create alternative suspects in a hurry, and the CIA rushed to oblige by bringing heavy pressure to bear on its subordinate antipodean ally. The tea lady at Langley called the Australian Government, and less than two days later, all members and supporters of Jemaah Islamiah were labeled âTerroristsâ by ASIO, which reports directly to Daryl Williams. The words âIntelligenceâ in ASIOâs title is a little misleading, because it seems to infer that members are highly skilled operatives with years of experience countering terrorism in its many different manifestations. Sadly for Australia, nothing could be further from the truth. The prime requirements for joining ASIO are a double
[CTRL] Fw: Australian news story on WTC
Title: [CTRL] Fw: Australian news story on WTC Why have I seen or heard nothing else about this? Is it false, or not? http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,2863215%255E1702,00.html Hijacker, stewardess's bodies found' From news.com.au staff and agencies 14sep01 THE body of a suspected hijacker and an air stewardess with her hands tied have reportedly been found in the wreckage of the World Trade Centre. Rescuers found the cockpit of one of the planes among the wreckage and in it was the body of a man who was not wearing a pilot's uniform, Fox News reported. Close by was the body of a woman believed to be a stewardess, whose hands were tied with wire, the channel said. James A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/www.ctrl.org/A<br"> DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance?not soap-boxing?please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'?with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds?is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlAr<span" >chives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctr<span" >l/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Australian news story on WTC
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This same story was posted earlier on this list; see below. The strange
thing is that the webpage was posted by Mike Switzer (text below). Since
the webpage didn't have the url, I went to the home page and searched to
bring up the article. It was different from the one Mike posted. When I
replied to Mike's post, the page was converted to text, but you may still
have it in your mailbox to compare. Very strange.
Linda
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From: James Valles, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:18 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Fw: Australian news story on WTC
Why have I seen or heard nothing else about this? Is it false, or not?
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,2863215%255E1702,00.html
Hijacker, stewardess's bodies found'
From news.com.au staff and agencies
14sep01
THE body of a suspected hijacker and an air stewardess with her hands
tied have reportedly been found in the wreckage of the World Trade
Centre.
Rescuers found the cockpit of one of the planes among the wreckage
and in it was the body of a man who was not wearing a pilot's
uniform, Fox News reported.
Close by was the body of a woman believed to be a stewardess, whose
hands were tied with wire, the channel said.
James
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(my prior post)
I searched the Times website for the url for this story. Apparently it has
been changed. It now reads:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001310020-2001320235,00.html
THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 13 2001
Hijacker's body recovered
Rescuers have found the body of a terrorist who hijacked one of the
airplanes that crashed into the World Trade Centre, Sky News reported.
The corpse, which was found in the cockpit, was apparently not wearing a
uniform.
Recovery teams also found the body of a stewardess whose hands had been tied
together with wire.
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Rescuers have found the body of a terrorist who hijacked one of the
airplanes that crashed into the World Trade Centre, and preliminary news is
very disturbing.
The corpse, which was found in the cockpit, was apparently wearing a U.S.
military uniform and carrying an NSA security clearance card.
Recovery teams also found the body of a stewardess whose outer clothes also
concealed a U.S. military uniform with special insignia. Government
authorities are rushing to secure the scene.
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[CTRL] FC: Australian gvt, church weigh e-tagging humans with transmitters (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Also see the Digital Angel discussions in the Politech archives: http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=angel ** Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:55:02 +1000 From: Nathan Cochrane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: The Age newspaper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Asylum seekers may be e-tagged says Anglican church, Fed Govt Hi Declan For Politech: Ruddock considers tagging detainees Illegal immigrants could be electronically tracked as an alternative to detention if suitable technology was available, the federal government said. Anglican Primate and Archbishop of Perth, Peter Carnley, has suggested refugees and asylum seekers be e-tagged before being released into the community as an alternative to mandatory detention. Immigration Minister Philip Ruddock said he would consider such a proposal. My concern, which has always been that people should be available for processing and available for removal, might be able to be addressed if you had a system in which you could clearly identify where people were if they were free in the community, he told ABC radio. MORE: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/story_16083.asp - POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ - A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FC: Australian man convicted for downloading explicit text files (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- The Ohio guy: http://www.politechbot.com/p-02223.html - Forwarded message from Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Thoughtcrime in Australia To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:51:21 -0700 (PDT) No sooner has that guy in Ohio gone to the slammer for 10 years for his naughty diary, than some judge in Australia has fined a person $10k for downloading naughty text stories on the Internet. Will www.nifty.org and www.assgm.com survive? And in a very odd and cleverly worded op-ed piece... http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/34569.htm The New York Post has suggested that locking up Mr. Dalton was wrong because he didn't show his story to anyone, while observing in passing that such a sentence would have been just fine if Mr. Dalton had posted his story on the Net, or shown it to a friend. Goodness, we can't have that, can we? Kind of makes one side with those who believe that the solution to god-soaked religious cretins is an emergency lion-breeding program. - http://www.thewest.com.au/20010712/news/perth/tw-news-perth-home-sto15793.html July 12, 2001 Child porn fiction gets fine of $10,000 By Bronwyn Peace A MAN has been fined $10,000 for possessing stories about child pornography even though the judge said they were not as serious as pornographic pictures because they were fictional and there were no victims. ... Last month, prosecutor Gail Archer told the court that Keogh should be jailed for the pornographic stories, which were found on his home computer by his stepdaughter's boyfriend. She said the stories, which detailed gang rape, bestiality and incest, had titles such as Bonnie Goes Camping, The Little Homewrecker and Prince and His Princess. All of the stories are quite detailed, quite graphic and incredibly unpleasant, she said. Ms Archer said Keogh admitted to police he owned the stories but said he did not know they were illegal and that they helped him cope with his past abuse. She said any downloading of child pornography encouraged the exploitation of children. ... The judge said Keogh, who until now had led a blameless life, deserved a significant fine. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law - End forwarded message - - POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ - A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FC: Australian university shuts web site critical of health minister (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- * From: geert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LaTrobe pharmaceutical web site shutdown From: Danny Yee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:09 AM Subject: [LINK] LaTrobe pharmaceutical web site shutdown Lecturer charged over uni website AN academic website protesting against Federal Health Minister Michael Wooldridge's allegedly close relationship with the pharmaceutical industry has been shut down by La Trobe University. http://australianit.news.com.au/common/storyPage/0,3811,2304103%5E442,00.htm l http://users.bigpond.net.au/Medreach/ That bigpond URL has gone, but try http://www.google.com/search?q=%22minister+for+pfizer%22 and the cache of the first result from that. This isn't an academic wacko on some esoteric crusade. This is part of a serious site (the Health Equity Coalition, apparently a joint venture between LaTrobe RMIT and Monash staff) providing really important information, and I can't see how shutting the entire site down (rather than asking for allegedly libellous wording to be changed) could possibly be justified. If this has happened as a result of Federal government intervention, heads should roll. The NTEU should FOI LaTrobe pronto. Some excerpts from the site follow. (I hope this doesn't get you into trouble over the web archives, Tony, but I really can't see how referring to Wooldridge as Minister for Pfizer can be actionable.) From the page that used to be at http://www-sph.health.latrobe.edu.au/PBAC/ | This site collates published and unpublished material about the | Australian Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), initially stimulated | by the controversy over changes to the membership of its Pharmaceutical | Benefits Advisory Committee (PBAC). The aim was to explore the claim | that these changes represent a hijack of the PBAC by the multinational | pharmaceutical industry, aided and abetted by the current Federal | Health Minister: Dr. Michael Wooldridge (Minister for Pfizer). | | Subsequently, we have added material about the unsustainable growth of | the PBS (14%-16% per annum) costing the Australian taxpayer A$3.45 | billion in 1999/2000). | | In addition, we collect material about relevant international policy | aimed at improving equity of access to necessary drugs. | | We trust this resource will assist an informed public policy debate | about the PBS and related pharmaceutical policy matters. Many thanks to | the numerous colleagues who have submitted material to help this | process. Please keep it coming. And from the page that used to be at http://www-sph.health.latrobe.edu.au/HEC/pharmaceuticals.htm | Background | | This section of the site collates published and unpublished material | about the Australian Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), especially | the current controversy over changes to the membership of its | Pharmaceutical Benefits Advisory Committee (PBAC). | | It does not pretend to do justice to the media coverage, which has | been extensive. | | The aim is to explore the claim that these changes represent a hijack | of the PBAC by the multinational pharmaceutical industry, aided and | abetted by the current Federal Health Minister: Dr. Michael Wooldridge | (Minister for Pfizer). | | We trust this resource will assist an informed public policy debate | about this matter. Many thanks to the numerous colleagues who have | submitted material to help this process. Please keep it coming. | | Resource material | | | The Australian Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS) Background Paper | | ABC-TV Radio Coverage | | Articles in medical and lay press | | Letters to the press, listservers, this forum, etc. | | Organisation positions | | Other material (on AIDS drug availability, patents, the pharmaceutical | industry, TRIPS, WTO, NGOs and essential drugs) | | Pharmaceutical policy documents and suggestions (Government and other sites) | | Cartoons | | | Educational Material for Download | | | Consumer /or Patient PBS Primer leaflet (MS WORD DOC, 28K) | | Consumer /or Patient PBS Question Answer leaflet (MS WORD DOC, 30K) | | Letter for physicians /or pharmacists to give to drug reps (MS WORD DOC, 22K) | | | There is concern that these changes to the PBAC will result in | more costly drugs (with more marginal benefits) being added to | the PBS. This, in turn, will lead to a PBS cost blow-out which the | government will then pass on to consumers via higher co-payments or | other strategies. The end result will be that poorer Australians will | no longer have access to necessary drugs. Danny. --- http://dannyreviews.com/ - more than five hundred book reviews http://www.caa.org.au/ - working for an
[CTRL] AFP: Australian Rugby Player Guilty of Sticking His Finger Up Opponent's Backside (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- [Unverified. --MS] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:19:15 +0200 From: Kevin Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT... SYDNEY, March 29 (AFP) - The ultimate bastion of macho Australia -- rugby league -- was reeling Thursday after Wests Tigers bad boy John Hopoate was found guilty of sticking his fingers up opponents' backsides. The Tongan-born Hopoate, who played two Tests for the Australian national side, the Kangaroos, in 1999, was banned for 12 National Rugby League championship matches. NRL commissioner Jim Hall described it as a "disgusting, vile and offensive act". "During my 45 years in rugby league, never have I come across a more disgusting act," Hall added. However, Talk-back radio was inundated with fans and ex-players telling how common the act was. And Hopoate's club coach, Terry Lamb, who played 349 first grade games, said it was reasonably common to be touched in the region of the testicles. Bernie Gross, who defended Hopoate before the NRL disciplinary commission, claimed he was only giving the players a "wedgie". But North Queensland's Peter Jones, one of three players Hopoate attacked, dismissed the claim. "Wedgies are when your pants are pulled up around your arse. I think I know the difference between a wedgie and someone sticking their fingers up my bum," Jones said. The 27-year-old Hopoate, a teetotaller Mormon with five children, has been in trouble with the NRL disciplinary commission seven times in the last four years, usually for fighting. It is not the first time such an unsavoury incident has been reported. Australian lock Bradley Clyde claimed Great Britain centre Garry Schofield inserted his finger in a 1992 Test at Sydney. Rugby league observers believe more of it goes on but players do not report it because they fear being embarassed. Gouging is still considered the most heinous offence because of the possibility of permanent blindness. Biting is fairly common but players usually turn a blind eye when hands or arms are bitten because they are usually up to no good. Tigers chairman John Chalk said they would appeal. "John is obviously very upset about the decision," he said. Test star Wendell Sailor, who switches codes to rugby union in September, said he had warned Hopoate his wayward finger would get him into trouble three weeks ago. Sailor said he had been "jabbed" by Hopoate when the Broncos played West Tigers. "At first I was very surprised," Sailor said. "He just stood there and smiled at me. "The second time he did it to (teammate) Mick De Vere and I complained to the touch judge and he (Hopoate) was laughing about it again. "I think he got me a third time and after that I said: 'you're kidding mate, you are going to get into trouble'." Action was only taken after the North Queensland Cowboys lodged a formal complaint on Monday that Hopoate had attacked Jones, Paul Bowman and Glenn Morrison in Saturday night's match However, Sailor's Brisbane coach Wayne Bennett was following the league code of silence. "I think enough has been said," Bennett said. "He didn't kill anybody." At the Wednesday night disciplinary committee meeting, Hopoate insisted he was merely trying to give Jones and Morrison a "wedgie" in order to perform a quick play-the-ball. Asked by his counsel where he was directing his finger at Bowman, Hopoate replied: "Between his arse and his nuts". Hopoate maintained he did nothing wrong and went on to say: "I'm a great believer in what happens on the field should stay there." Asked to describe what a wedgie felt like, the Tigers winger replied: "You get a burning sensation. Your undies are getting reefed up your arse." Bowman said he was attacked as he stood over Hopoate after tackling him. "That's when I felt fingers outside my shorts pushing up my arse," he said. "There was pressure there. I know he was not doing it accidentally. He was definitely pushing. "I was disgusted. I couldn't believe it. I know it's a tough game, but there's no room for that." Hopoate's counsel argued that Bowman had been trying to slow Hopoate from playing the ball by grabbing his leg. But Bowman maintained: "If he (Hopoate) was a man, he wouldn't do that." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] [Law@] Australian Military New Powers to supress dissent
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:40:45 GMT jeremy dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is from the anti-World Economic Forum mailing list, I thought it might be of more general interest. Don't know about the law in it, though, and I haven't had time to do the research; although I should say that the Alternative Law Journal is well respected here in Australia. My reservation is that "Aid to the Civil Power" plans for the army to act against civil unrest have been around, and been known to be around , for quite a few years now. The Constitutional basis, apart from the section mentioned below, would appear to be the so-called "Nationhood Power" thought by High Court judges to be implied in the Australian Constitution; or the reserve power currently conceptualised as lying in the Crown. The essence of the reserve power is captured in Abraham Lincoln's remark on the folly of saving the Constitution but losing the Union. So there is no doubt in my mind that *at some point* of civil unrest it would be found constitutional to use military force to quell it, with or without a request from a State government. Where that point is would be the interesting question, I recall there is US case-law on the subject which the Australian High Court would no doubt consider. And if it is worthwhile for the government to bring in such a bill as is described below; no doubt it is worth our while to oppose it! the "GST" (Goods and Servives Tax) referred to below is a widely unpopular federal consumption tax recently introduced in Australia. -j Original Message Follows From: "Damien Lawson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: "Benjamin Doherty-Rosenzweig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [melb2000] Australian Military New Powers to supress dissent Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:33:59 +1000 EMERGENCY ACTION ALERT TROOPS IN THE STREETS? AUSTRALIAN MILITARY TO GET SWEEPING NEW POWERS With no media attention or public discussion the Howard Government is using the Olympics to justify sweeping new powers allowing the military to suppress domestic unrest in Australia. The Defence Legislation Amendment (Aid to the Civilian Authorities) Bill seeks to establish the legal and political basis for using troops to suppress political disturbances, seriously undermining the centuries-old principle that the armed forces should not be mobilised against the civilian population. The Bill was passed through the House of Representatives in one day (June 28) virtually unnoticed with the country in the grip of GST mania, and is due to be voted on in the Senate by the end of August in time for the Olympic Games. Under the pretext of ensuring public safety during the Olympics, the government and the Labor Opposition have combined to rush through the legislation which will permanently and fundamentally change the military's role. The Bill authorises the Prime Minister, the Defence Minister and the Attorney-General to advise the Governor-General (the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces under the Constitution) to call out military personnel to deal with "domestic violence" that is considered a threat to the nation or one of Australia's states or territories. The words "domestic violence" do not refer to violence against family members or in the home. It is a vague and undefined expression derived from s.119 of the Constitution, which was intended to cover civilian disorder that the state police forces prove incapable of putting down. Today, the term "domestic violence" is widely interpreted to mean more than just "terrorism" and can include strikes, political demonstrations or riots. Already the term "terrorism" has been used by police and security forces to encompass protests such as those planned for the World Economic Forum in Melbourne in September. It is possible that "domestic violence" will be interpreted to include protests at the Olympics or the WEF. Section 119 of the Consititution provides that the federal government shall protect each state against domestic violence, but only on the application of the state's government. Section 51A of the Bill goes well beyond the existing s. 51 of the Defence Act 1903 (Cth), which is based on s. 119 of the Constitution. The new section will allow a military callout where the three ministers are satisfied that domestic violence is occurring "or is likely to occur" that will affect "Commonwealth interests" (also undefined), regardless of whether there is a request by any state or territory government. Section 51B retains an existing proviso in s. 51 that a state government cannot request reserve forces for use in an intervention to deal with an industrial dispute, but no such restriction applies to the use of the armed forces to protect Commonwealth interests. Nor is there a restriction on the use of the permanent military when requested by a State. Section 51G will prevent military personnel being utilised to "stop or restrict any lawful protest or
[CTRL] New Australian?
-Caveat Lector- Can someone tell me Web Address of New Australian? Bill DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Australian
-Caveat Lector- Dear Friends: Has The australian web page moved or has it been removed? I get following message: Directory Listing Denied This Virtual Directory does not allow contents to be listed. At http://www.theaustralian.com.au/home/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Australian
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Sep 99, at 17:06, Bill Richer wrote: -Caveat Lector- Dear Friends: Has The australian web page moved or has it been removed? I get following message: Directory Listing Denied This Virtual Directory does not allow contents to be listed. At http://www.theaustralian.com.au/home/ Try this one: http://www.news.com.au/mastheads/frame_loader.htm?aus or just http://www.news.com.au Kathleen "Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed." -- Dwight David Eisenhower DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Australian
-Caveat Lector- When going to The Australian Website I get following message: Directory Listing Denied This Virtual Directory does not allow contents to be listed Does anyone know if they moved? God Bless Bill DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Australian
http://technology.news.com.au/techno/features/f90213a.htm -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 Title: Feature back THE BIG REVOLT US lobbyists who don't want Windows will be demanding a refund this week, reports Kerrie Murphy 13feb99 AS anyone who remembers the bad old days of personal computing can tell you, installing an operating system from scratch can reduce the bravest person to tears. For that reason, many consumers were more than happy to let the vendor do the installing. Now all you need do is put the right plugs in the right holes, press the on button and the computer is ready to rumble. The staggering growth of Microsoft Windows has meant that if you buy a PC unless you buy an Apple Macintosh you have a choice of it being bundled with Windows or Windows (98 or NT that is). Even IBM, which has its own operating system, OS/2 Warp, ships Windows as standard. If you decide you want OS/2, you have to buy the PC with Windows and pay for a copy of OS/2. If you're happy with Windows, none of this is really a problem: all you want is your computer to work smoothly. Users of other operating systems, however, are not thrilled at having to pay for software they have no intention of using. It's like buying a new CD player and also having to purchase a Celine Dion CD you don't want. Until recently, the solution has been to wear it. But when South Australian-based Linux user Geoffrey Bennett bought a new notebook PC from Toshiba last year, he also read the end-user licence agreement for the copy of Windows that came with it. The agreement stated that if he didn't agree to the conditions of the licence "you may not use or copy the software product and you should promptly contact the PC manufacturer for instructions on return for the unused product(s) for a refund". Bennett contacted Toshiba and says that while the company originally refused to refund his money, he was later offered a refund for the entire machine. Finally, Toshiba gave him a cheque for $110 for the return of the unused software. Toshiba declined to comment on Bennett's case, or the wider implications of the refund, but it is not a situation unique to that company. Few, if any, name-brand vendors in Australia are willing to ship a PC without Windows. This is for a number of reasons, says Michelle Vanzella, marketing and business development manager with computer vendor Gateway. Gateway is unwilling to ship machines without an operating system because such machines cannot be tested before shipping. The company is currently considering offering Linux as an alternative. "Gateway is in rigorous compatibility testing for Linux and we're also doing market research to determine whether or not there is a demand for the product," she says. Vanzella explains that part of the reason for the company's hesitation is that Gateway offers free support for Windows for its customers and wants to offer the same service to Linux customers, which has training and support implications for Gateway staff. In the meantime, customers who want a Gateway machine but don't want Windows have the choice of either paying for it and not using it or returning both the hardware and software. "Our warranty service agreement allows the user to return the full system. We've never allowed them to return just the software bundle," says Vanzella. Most computer vendors have a similar policy. While Compaq offers customised orders for large corporate clients and alternatives to Windows on its servers, it's an all-or-nothing deal for PCs. Consumers not willing to accept the end-user agreement have the option of returning the hardware and software for a refund. Some believe this practice may contravene the Trade Practices Act. "It appears that it may be a case of third-line forcing," says Patrick Fair, a lawyer with Philips Fox specialising in computer issues. Section 47 (6) of the Act makes it illegal, he says, to "refuse to supply particular goods or services if the purchaser has not acquired, or not agreed to acquire, other goods or services from another person". When Living IT contacted the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, a spokeswoman said the ACCC had not investigated Microsoft and the end-user agreement in regard to Section 47 (6). The ACCC declined to comment further. It's a murky area, since technically the vendor has licensed the product from Microsoft and is then selling it to you. But having Microsoft so entrenched at the point of sale is an area of concern, says Mara Bun, Australian Consumers Association policy and public affairs manager. "Over the long term it is essential that
