From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My own experience of the police involvement with this evil
event come from the apparent joy these blokes gained
from being able to deprive innocent citizens of their
lawfully owned property.
I know each one of the officers personally who officiated
at the infamous surrender of private property. I am
staggered to hear you talk about them
like this. I will take them to task!
' A constable is a citizen, locally appointed, with
authority under the Crown.His primary functions are the
protection of life and property, the prevention and
detection of crime and the prosecution of offenders against
the peace'
He or she takes an oath along the lines of..'I swear
by her sovereign lady the queen that I will faithfuly
uphold and discharge the duties of my office without
favour, affection, malice or ill will'.etc. Not the exact
wording but I can get it if anyone wants it.
These are the terms under which the police operate, along
with a 16 point disciplinary code that includes the
offences of 'neglect of duty', 'failing to conform to a
lawful order', discreditable conduct, etc. etc. The
punishments vary from a reprimand to dismissal and forfeiture
of pension rights.
I suppose IG could simply say that we could have all
refused to hand our stuff in, so we are as much to
blame as anyone, but we could have used some help.
Now, I wasnt going to say that, as I dont believe that
people should disobey or break a law, no matter how
repugnant it is to the individual, but the mere fact that
the overwhelming majority of shooters complied with the law
proves that we are law abiding and responsible. Can the same
credit not be bestowed upon the Police?
Are you saying, Steve and others, that the citizens who
were being disenfranchised should have been met by officers
who refused to take their firearms from them? That would
have been a nice safe way of getting out of it for the
private individuals. Or should, perhaps, the situation have
been that the citizens refused to hand things over and the
police should not have done anything about it?
Good idea, except when you look at it in reality, it would
only have taken one citizen or one police officer to depart
from that principle and the whole lot would founder. Collective
action only works if it is 100%, and in this case I think it
would be agreed that it would have been impossible.
Someone made reference to the poll tax riots earlier. I
quite agree, violent protest has, in the past, forced a
change in laws. Does anyone think, seriously, that violent
protest by firearms owners is going to get a law repealed?
Worse still, does anyone think that a sustained campaign of
terrorism is relevant to this issue? (As per the Gerry Adams
connection). I don't.
Heres a one to be going on with whilst I am away for the
weekend. The police in the UK use .308's to destroy large
animals like bulls. (Yes, I know the story about the Rhino).
The favoured ammunition might be, for example, the 185gr.
lapua Mega. The weapon might be an Accuracy International.
What does the panel think about that?
IG
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Like you, I used to think that following the law was a virtue.
And let me just say I go to excruciating lengths to follow
the law, and based on my personal experience I am the only
person in Walsall who does.
I no longer think that following the law is a virtue. It
is a sickening burden, because I realised that the law is
written by a bunch of morons whose only real objective
is to get their name into the history books. Whether or
not the law actually helps anyone is low on their list
of priorities.
One of the primary differences I noticed between living
here and the US is that in the US it is actually possible
to go through life without breaking any laws. Here in
this country very often I hear people say: "Oh, that's
just a daft law, don't worry, the police will never
do you for it because they think it's stupid too."
People here are selective in which laws they follow,
simply because I think it is probably impossible to
follow them all as many of them contradict one another.
Steve.
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