RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: For the silly reason that I happen to know that a lot of things related to Nazis or Hitler in Deutschland ungültig ist. Ferinstance, check out the German aircraft in MS's Combat Flight Simulator - no swastikas, 'cause if there were, they couldn't fly in German airspace. You mean they couldn't fly in _simulated_ German airspace? You probably mean the game couldn't be sold on German marketspace? Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Obscene Content Tiebreaker
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Cliff Hones wrote: Kaz Kylheku wrote: A twit hit a free software mailing list. On censoring fortune he did insist. ``Can't have limericks about pussies and dicks!'' A few clicks Googled him out a masochist! I don't think this is a limerick, though, which rather spoils the joke. I found it hilarious all the same! And googling people on this list does provide some interesting stuff :-) Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: Perhaps. Could somebody tell me the single-best reason for providing the profanity at all? A number of people like them. Best, Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: A number of people like them. A number of people like hard pore cornography too. Cygwin doesn't provide that, at least not in visual form, at least not that I'm aware of. The question stands: What is the reason Cygwin should provide this obscene content? A number of people feel the dirty limericks are close enough to the purpose of fortune for them to have been included and kept. But nobody thought it would be interesting to include pore cornography in Cygwin (or, for that matter, the full works of Shakespeare). If lots of people wanted that, then it should be done too. It all boils down to cost/benefit, benefits here being how many people find an item good to include and costs being how many don't, and maybe even file size as well. Pore cornography would probably involve lots of negative reaction and large files, and the people who like it wouldn't care since they can easily get it elsewhere. In the limericks case, the -o option seems to have the least cost/benefit ratio. Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, R.Powers wrote: I don't think it has anything to do with Christianity or Atheism or PC or Free Speech..or being Hip or Coolor forcing anything on anybody.. It's merely obscene crudity. If it's better suited to publication on the wall of a public toilet than on the wall of your living room, for all to ponder and appreciate, then why keep it. That already carries a judgment reflecting your values. Certainly the people who included them in fortune thought otherwise. If someone's interest runs in that direction that interest can easily be fulfilled elsewhere. You can say that about many other components of cygwin (say, games). For the record, I am for the pro-choice option of making it -o. Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Obscene content in cygwin file.
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Brian Bruns wrote: and leave it be. We shouldn't be forcing our views on other people. If you leave it be, then that is the view forced on other people. If I am not mistaken, Brian had written something above that about warning people in advance. This would prevent it from being forced on people. Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
RE: Obscene content in cygwin file.
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: That already carries a judgment reflecting your values. Certainly the people who included them in fortune thought otherwise. If they had thought otherwise, they wouldn't have included them in the first place. As a licensed nerd mind-reader, I can tell you exactly the thought process involved here: Teeeheeeheee! I'm gonna add a bunch of dirty limericks to my program! That'll compensate for my inability to obtain sex! The point here is that someone said that this has nothing to do with values, as if it were an absolute truth that the limericks should be thrown away. However, the very fact that this thread is so long suggests otherwise. If someone's interest runs in that direction that interest can easily be fulfilled elsewhere. You can say that about many other components of cygwin (say, games). No you can't. Unless, say games, includes similar obscenity. You can say, and it would be true: If someone's interest runs in the direction of games that interest can easily be fulfilled elsewhere. That's not an argument for removing games from cygwin, and it is not an argument for removing the limericks from it either. Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Negative
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Larry Hall wrote: Well, negative or positive, we cannot change how anyone responds to posts on this list nor can we change how people interpret those responses. As a result, I don't see much point in lots of me toos along this line, The point would be to bring this to the attention of the people being negative. By seeing that not just one person feels like that, people may decide to stop and think whether their ways are constructive. Hopefully this would effect a change for the better. Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Suggestions
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:22:14 -0600 (CST), Rodrigo de Salvo Braz wrote: I would like to suggest that the words Keep, Prev, Curr and Exp be changed in the Cygwin Setup. I believe they are too abbreviated when there is room for clearer words. But, more importantly, I believe that the choice of words Keep and Curr is a bit confusing. Keep without saying what is being kept suggests little and Curr may be interpreted as the version currently installed in the computer (which is actually the meaning of Keep), not the packages' currently released versions. Just a thought. Any suggestions for clearer words? I meant just the full words, really, especially for Exp (I keep thinking Exponential :-). Personally, I would choose the following replacements for Keep and Curr: Keep - Installed version Curr - Up-to-date version Best, Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: User name with spaces and Cygwin web site suggestion
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Nick Coghlan wrote: Opening up /etc/passwd in a text editor and doing a search and replace for Nick Coghlan - NickCoghlan worked fine for me. It makes Cygwin happy, and Windows gets to continue on in blithe ignorance of what is going on. Yes. I think that's the best solution by a lot and the only one that should be in the FAQ. Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: User name with spaces and Cygwin web site suggestion
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: This is strange. Could you send us the output of mkpasswd and indicate both the name you use to log in into Windows and the name returned by id -un I didn't run mkpasswd manually because I have changed the account user name before installing Cygwin and assumed that it would be run by the regular initialization. Isn't that the case? If not, and if I have to run it manually in this case too, it is not clear to me what I have to do. Documents I find for mkpasswd describe it as either printing user information or generating passwords, and it doesn't look like that's what I want to do here. I don't know what parameters to use. The mkpasswd I have installed seems to be useful only for printing /etc/passwd information. Can you help me here? Thanks, Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: User name with spaces and Cygwin web site suggestion
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Nick Coghlan wrote: Rodrigo de Salvo Braz wrote: id -un, as it is the case with ssh. Did I miss something or renaming the account really doesn't do anything to solve the problem? Did you rename the actual account using the Management Console (Control Panel-Administrative Accounts-Computer Management), or did you change the user name in User Accounts (Control Panel-User Accounts)? The latter doesn't actually rename the account itself - it merely adds a Full Name setting which is displayed by the Windows GUI instead of the actual account name. Thanks. I will try that as soon as I figure out how to run mkpasswd. Meanwhile, it sounds like a good idea to include this bit of info as well as info on mkpasswd in the FAQ. Cheers, Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: User name with spaces and Cygwin web site suggestion
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: So you should do what the faq says. Thanks for the clarifications, Pierre, they will solve my problem. But one of the motivations of my original post was that I thought I had done what the faq says. I suggest it gets clarified; it says: You can rename the user in the Windows User Manager GUI. I interpreted this to mean to go to Control Panel-User Accounts-Rename, and did it. I think many users will do the same. Also, as Coughlan pointed out, the real renaming may break many things and it may be good to alert users to that. Also, the FAQ says: run mkpasswd, without giving the info you gave me above which is essential. Thanks again, Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
User name with spaces and Cygwin web site suggestion
Hi, I had a Windows XP user account whose name had spaces. The Cygwin web site says that you should change your account's user name to something without spaces and, if Cygwin is already installed, re-run mkpasswd. Even before I installed Cygwin, I changed my user name, but this did not solve the problem because the command id -un used in /etc/profile to determine the user continues returning the previous spaced user name. So I manually set HOME and USER to the right thing in /etc/profile and at least I got the home directory right and so on. But apparently some programs may still use id -un, as it is the case with ssh. Did I miss something or renaming the account really doesn't do anything to solve the problem? Thanks, Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: Suggestions
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, Larry Hall wrote: At 06:43 PM 12/3/2004, you wrote: Is there some more specific place in which to give suggestions or feedback about the Cygwin pages? Sure. Here. :-) Ok, just making sure, thanks. I would like to suggest that the words Keep, Prev, Curr and Exp be changed in the Cygwin Setup. I believe they are too abbreviated when there is room for clearer words. But, more importantly, I believe that the choice of words Keep and Curr is a bit confusing. Keep without saying what is being kept suggests little and Curr may be interpreted as the version currently installed in the computer (which is actually the meaning of Keep), not the packages' currently released versions. Just a thought. Thanks, Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Suggestions
Hi, Is there some more specific place in which to give suggestions or feedback about the Cygwin pages? Thanks, Rodrigo -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/
Re: startxwin.bat absent after fresh install
I have found the problem: it was simply that I didn't realize those scripts form their own package, X-startup-scripts. This is the third time I install Cygwin/Xfree and I don't remember having to explicitly set those scripts to be included. Sorry about the distraction. Rodrigo
startxwin.bat absent after fresh install
Hi, I have just freshly installed cygwin/xfree (although I had it before and completely uninstalled it). Following the documentation, I looked for startxwin.bat (or .sh) but they are not in /usr/X11R6/bin as stated. I have selected the xwinwm package. That in itself, I believe, should have included the basic Cygwin/X and included those files, right? My cygcheck output is pasted below. Thanks for your time. Rodrigo Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics Current System Time: Mon Aug 09 14:48:23 2004 Windows XP Home Edition Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Path: C:\cygwin\usr\local\bin C:\cygwin\bin C:\cygwin\bin C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin c:\Inprise\vbroker\bin c:\PROGRA~1\Borland\CBUILD~1\Bin c:\PROGRA~1\Borland\CBUILD~1\Projects\Bpl c:\Java Software\javacc2.1\bin c:\Program Files\Ghostgum\gsview c:\Program Files\texmf\miktex\bin\ c:\Perl\bin\ c:\J2SDK1.4.1_01\BIN c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 c:\WINDOWS c:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\WBEM c:\PROGRAM FILES\BORLAND\CBUILDER\BIN c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET\Vc7\bin c:\Program Files\Common Files\Adaptec Shared\System c:\Program Files\Yap\bin c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools\WinNT c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98\Bin c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\bin C C:\cygwin\Program Files\qt\bin C C:\cygwin\Program Files\zip c:\Program Files\SSH Communications Security\SSH Secure Shell Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (nontsec) UID: 1006(Rodrigo Braz) GID: 513(None) 513(None) Output from C:\cygwin\bin\id.exe (ntsec) UID: 1006(Rodrigo Braz) GID: 513(None) 0(root) 513(None) 544(Administrators) 545(Users) 1008(Debugger Users) SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\System32 WinDir: C:\WINDOWS HOME = `C:\cygwin\home\Rodrigo Braz' MAKE_MODE = `unix' PWD = `/home/Rodrigo Braz' USER = `Rodrigo Braz' ALLUSERSPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\All Users' APPDATA = `C:\Documents and Settings\Rodrigo Braz\Application Data' CLASSPATH = `.;C:\Java Software\myclasses;C:\Java Software\GFC1.1.2;C:\Java Software\commons-collections-2.1\commons-collections.jar;C:\Java Software\jakarta-log4j-1.2.7\dist\lib\log4j-1.2.7.jar;C:\Java Software\printf\hb15.zip;C:\Java Software\jargs-0.4\lib\jargs.jar;C:\Java Software\colt1.0.3\colt.jar;C:\Java Software\commons-functor\commons- functor.jar;C:\Java Software\junit3.8.1;C:\Java Software\junit3.8.1 \junit.jar;C:\Java Software\trove-1.1b3\lib\trove.jar' CLIENTNAME = `Console' COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files' COMPUTERNAME = `RODRIGONOTEBOOK' COMSPEC = `C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe' CVS_RSH = `/bin/ssh' HOMEDRIVE = `C:' HOMEPATH = `\Documents and Settings\Rodrigo Braz' HOSTNAME = `RODRIGONOTEBOOK' INCLUDE = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\atl\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\mfc\include;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\include' INFOPATH = `/usr/local/info:/usr/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/autotool/devel/info:/usr/autotoo l/stable/info:' LIB = `C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\mfc\lib;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\lib' LOGONSERVER = `\\RODRIGONOTEBOOK' MANPATH = `/usr/local/man:/usr/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/autotool/devel/man::/usr/ssl/man' NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1' OLDPWD = `/usr/bin' OS = `Windows_NT' PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH' PERL5LIB = `C:\Documents and Settings\Rodrigo Braz\My Documents\Programas\Perl Modules' PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = `x86' PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 0, AuthenticAMD' PROCESSOR_LEVEL = `6' PROCESSOR_REVISION = `0800' PROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files' PROMPT = `$P$G' PS1 = `\[\033]0;\w\007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] $ ' SESSIONNAME = `Console' SHLVL = `1' SYSTEMDRIVE = `C:' SYSTEMROOT = `C:\WINDOWS' TEMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\RODRIG~1\LOCALS~1\Temp' TERM = `cygwin' TMP = `C:\DOCUME~1\RODRIG~1\LOCALS~1\Temp' USERDOMAIN = `RODRIGONOTEBOOK' USERNAME = `Rodrigo Braz' USERPROFILE = `C:\Documents and Settings\Rodrigo Braz' VBROKERDIR = `C:\Inprise\vbroker' WINDIR = `C:\WINDOWS' _ = `/usr/bin/cygcheck' POSIXLY_CORRECT = `1' HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2 (default) = `/cygdrive' cygdrive flags = 0x0022 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ (default) = `C:\cygwin' flags = 0x000a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin (default)
