Re: RE: libxml2 and python not happy... solution downgrade libxml2

2024-04-01 Thread Jon Turney via Cygwin

On 20/05/2023 17:30, Jon Turney via Cygwin wrote:

On 10/05/2023 15:20, Jason Pyeron via Cygwin wrote:
I guess I will have to adopt the virt-manager package... please put it 
on my plate :(


Well, that wasn't quite the response I was expecting, but thanks very 
much for helping!


I have added 'virt-manager' to your packages.


So, cleaning up the final python2 bits, I got around back to looking at 
this again.  I've made minor updates to python-libvirt and virt-manager, 
which gets something which runs.


But it just sits there, apparently trying to connect to a local QEMU 
hypervisor I don't have, but that's what the previous, python2 version 
does as well...


I'm guessing that perhaps the only sensible way to run this on Cygwin is 
with the '--connect' option to a remote hypervisior.  Or maybe it's 
totally broken.



[...]

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From: Jon Turney 
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 10:05 AM
To: Jason Pyeron ; The Cygwin Mailing List 


Subject: Re: libxml2 and python not happy... solution downgrade libxml2

On 09/05/2023 23:33, Jason Pyeron via Cygwin wrote:

$ virt-manager
Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virt-manager", line 35, in 
  from virtinst import util as util
    File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/__init__.py", line 18, in 


  from virtcli import CLIConfig as _CLIConfig
    File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtcli/__init__.py", line 3, in 


  from .cliconfig import CLIConfig
    File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtcli/cliconfig.py", line 24, in 


  import ConfigParser
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'ConfigParser'


[...]


#downgrade libxml2...

$ cygcheck -c libxml2 python27-libxml2
Cygwin Package Information
Package  Version    Status
libxml2  2.9.10-2   OK
python27-libxml2 2.9.10-2   OK

jpyeron@blackfat ~
$ ./test.py

jpyeron@blackfat ~
$ virt-manager


Right.  The real problem here is that virt-manager is still using
python2, which long past EOL, and is planned to be removed.

The current plan, per [1] is for virt-manager to become uninstallable
after this, and see if anyone complains.

If virt-manager is important to you, perhaps you could help us bring it
up to date?

[1] https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-apps/2023-April/042778.html


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Re: Cannot downgrade gcc 13 or 12 to 11.4.0-1

2024-03-18 Thread Jon Turney via Cygwin

On 14/03/2024 18:34, Thomas Hedden via Cygwin wrote:
I installed a test version of gcc and cannot revert to an earlier, 
non-test version. Here are the latest versions listed in the setup routine:


11.4.0-1
12.3.1+20240202-0.1 (Test)
13.2.1+20240203-0.1 (Test)

(there are some even older ones, but I want 11.4.0-1.)

$ gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20240203

[...]

$ gcc -o hello.exe hello.c
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-cygwin/13/../../../../x86_64-pc-cygwin/bin/ld: 
cannot find -lintl: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-cygwin/13/../../../../x86_64-pc-cygwin/bin/ld: 
cannot find -liconv: No such file or directory

collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status


This seems like a problem with this test version of gcc.  I guess maybe 
it now links with intl and iconv by default in the specsfile, which will 
require the corresponding devel packages to be installed, but it doesn't 
depend on them.


This seems like a mistake. (I think libstdc++ will now require these, 
but they shouldn't be needed just for c compilation.)


So, I can't compile anything. I don't need the test version to work, I 
just want to downgrade to 11.4.0-1. However, if I uninstall the test 
version, and then try to install 11.4.0-1, I get the following message:


Problem 1/1
package gcc-g++-11.4.0-1 requires gcc11, but none of the providers can 
be installed

Solution 1/2
   - allow replacement of gcc-core-13.2.1+20240203-0.1 with 
gcc-core-11.4.0-1

Solution 2/2 (default)
   - do not ask to lock gcc-g++-11.4.0-1

What should I do?


Sorry that this message isn't very clear, and this situation is not 
handled well by setup.


You need to downgrade all the various gcc packages in step.

Which you can do manually, but perhaps the easiest way to do this is to 
select the 'Sync' option at the top-right, which will downgrade all test 
packages.



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Cannot downgrade gcc 13 or 12 to 11.4.0-1

2024-03-14 Thread Thomas Hedden via Cygwin
I installed a test version of gcc and cannot revert to an earlier, 
non-test version. Here are the latest versions listed in the setup routine:


11.4.0-1
12.3.1+20240202-0.1 (Test)
13.2.1+20240203-0.1 (Test)

(there are some even older ones, but I want 11.4.0-1.)

$ gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20240203
Copyright (C) 2023 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is 
NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR 
PURPOSE.

$ cat hello.c
#include 

int main(void) {
   printf("Hello, world!\n");
   return(0);
}
$ gcc -o hello.exe hello.c
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-cygwin/13/../../../../x86_64-pc-cygwin/bin/ld: 
cannot find -lintl: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-cygwin/13/../../../../x86_64-pc-cygwin/bin/ld: 
cannot find -liconv: No such file or directory

collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

So, I can't compile anything. I don't need the test version to work, I 
just want to downgrade to 11.4.0-1. However, if I uninstall the test 
version, and then try to install 11.4.0-1, I get the following message:


Problem 1/1
package gcc-g++-11.4.0-1 requires gcc11, but none of the providers can 
be installed

Solution 1/2
  - allow replacement of gcc-core-13.2.1+20240203-0.1 with 
gcc-core-11.4.0-1

Solution 2/2 (default)
  - do not ask to lock gcc-g++-11.4.0-1

What should I do?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Tom Hedden

Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Thu Mar 14 18:59:31 2024

Windows 11 Home Ver 10.0 Build 22631 

Path:   C:\bin\cygwin64\usr\local\bin
C:\bin\cygwin64\bin
C:\Windows\system32
C:\Windows
C:\Windows\System32\Wbem
C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0
C:\Windows\System32\OpenSSH
C:\Users\thoma\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps

Output from C:\bin\cygwin64\bin\id.exe
UID: 197609(thoma)
GID: 197609(thoma)
197609(thoma)
405504(High Mandatory Level)
114(Local account and member of Administrators group)
544(Administrators)
545(Users)
4(INTERACTIVE)
66049(CONSOLE LOGON)
11(Authenticated Users)
15(This Organization)
68387(microsoftaccount+tho...@hedden.org)
113(Local account)
4095(CurrentSession)
66048(LOCAL)
262180(Cloud Account Authentication)

SysDir: C:\Windows\system32
WinDir: C:\Windows

HOME = '/home/thoma'
PWD = '/home/thoma/progs'
USER = 'thoma'

ALLUSERSPROFILE = 'C:\ProgramData'
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COMMONPROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
CommonProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files'
CommonProgramW6432 = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
COMPUTERNAME = 'PASTEUR'
COMSPEC = 'C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe'
DriverData = 'C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\DriverData'
HOMEDRIVE = 'C:'
HOMEPATH = '\Users\thoma'
LOCALAPPDATA = 'C:\Users\thoma\AppData\Local'
LOGONSERVER = '\\PASTEUR'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = '16'
OneDrive = 'C:\Users\thoma\OneDrive'
OneDriveConsumer = 'C:\Users\thoma\OneDrive'
OS = 'Windows_NT'
PATHEXT = '.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = 'AMD64'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = 'AMD64 Family 25 Model 80 Stepping 0, AuthenticAMD'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = '25'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = '5000'
ProgramData = 'C:\ProgramData'
PROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files'
ProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)'
ProgramW6432 = 'C:\Program Files'
PSModulePath = 'C:\Program 
Files\WindowsPowerShell\Modules;C:\Windows\system32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\Modules'
PUBLIC = 'C:\Users\Public'
SHELL = '/usr/bin/zsh'
SYSTEMDRIVE = 'C:'
SYSTEMROOT = 'C:\Windows'
USERDOMAIN = 'PASTEUR'
USERDOMAIN_ROAMINGPROFILE = 'PASTEUR'
USERNAME = 'thoma'
USERPROFILE = 'C:\Users\thoma'
WINDIR = 'C:\Windows'
__COMPAT_LAYER = 'Installer'
TERM = 'xterm'
LC_CTYPE = 'en_US.UTF-8'
MINTTY_SHORTCUT = '/cygdrive/c/Users/Public/Desktop/Cygwin64 Terminal.lnk'
TERM_PROGRAM = 'mintty'
TERM_PROGRAM_VERSION = '3.7.1'
LOGNAME = 'thoma'
SHLVL = '1'
OLDPWD = '/home/thoma'
TZ = 'America/New_York'
PROFILEREAD = 'true'
ORIGINAL_PATH = 
'/cygdrive/c/Windows/system32:/cygdrive/c/Windows:/cygdrive/c/Windows/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/Windows/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/cygdrive/c/Windows/System32/OpenSSH:/cygdrive/c/Users/thoma/AppData/Local/Microsoft/WindowsApps'
INFOPATH = '/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/info'
TMP = '/tmp'
TEMP = '/tmp'
PRINTER = 'Brother MFC-L8900CDW series'
HOSTNAME = 'pasteur'
PS1 = '%n@%m %F{red}%/%f $ '
_ = '/usr/bin/cygcheck'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\bin\cygwin64'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin\DefaultIcon
  (default) = 'C:\bin\cygwin64\bin\xlaunch.exe.exe,1'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin\Shell
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin\Shell\Edit
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin\Shell\Edit\command
  (default) = '"C:\bin\cygwin64\bin\run.exe" --quote 

Re: RE: libxml2 and python not happy... solution downgrade libxml2

2023-05-20 Thread Jon Turney via Cygwin

On 10/05/2023 15:20, Jason Pyeron via Cygwin wrote:

I guess I will have to adopt the virt-manager package... please put it on my 
plate :(


Well, that wasn't quite the response I was expecting, but thanks very 
much for helping!


I have added 'virt-manager' to your packages.

[...]

-Original Message-
From: Jon Turney 
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 10:05 AM
To: Jason Pyeron ; The Cygwin Mailing List 
Subject: Re: libxml2 and python not happy... solution downgrade libxml2

On 09/05/2023 23:33, Jason Pyeron via Cygwin wrote:

$ virt-manager
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virt-manager", line 35, in 
  from virtinst import util as util
File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/__init__.py", line 18, in 
  from virtcli import CLIConfig as _CLIConfig
File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtcli/__init__.py", line 3, in 
  from .cliconfig import CLIConfig
File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtcli/cliconfig.py", line 24, in 
  import ConfigParser
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'ConfigParser'


[...]


#downgrade libxml2...

$ cygcheck -c libxml2 python27-libxml2
Cygwin Package Information
Package  VersionStatus
libxml2  2.9.10-2   OK
python27-libxml2 2.9.10-2   OK

jpyeron@blackfat ~
$ ./test.py

jpyeron@blackfat ~
$ virt-manager


Right.  The real problem here is that virt-manager is still using
python2, which long past EOL, and is planned to be removed.

The current plan, per [1] is for virt-manager to become uninstallable
after this, and see if anyone complains.

If virt-manager is important to you, perhaps you could help us bring it
up to date?

[1] https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-apps/2023-April/042778.html




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RE: libxml2 and python not happy... solution downgrade libxml2

2023-05-10 Thread Jason Pyeron via Cygwin
I guess I will have to adopt the virt-manager package... please put it on my 
plate :(

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> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Turney 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 10:05 AM
> To: Jason Pyeron ; The Cygwin Mailing List 
> 
> Subject: Re: libxml2 and python not happy... solution downgrade libxml2
> 
> On 09/05/2023 23:33, Jason Pyeron via Cygwin wrote:
> > $ virt-manager
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virt-manager", line 35, in 
> >  from virtinst import util as util
> >File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/__init__.py", line 18, in 
> >  from virtcli import CLIConfig as _CLIConfig
> >File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtcli/__init__.py", line 3, in 
> >  from .cliconfig import CLIConfig
> >File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtcli/cliconfig.py", line 24, in 
> >  import ConfigParser
> > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'ConfigParser'
> >
> [...]
> >
> > #downgrade libxml2...
> >
> > $ cygcheck -c libxml2 python27-libxml2
> > Cygwin Package Information
> > Package  VersionStatus
> > libxml2  2.9.10-2   OK
> > python27-libxml2 2.9.10-2   OK
> >
> > jpyeron@blackfat ~
> > $ ./test.py
> >
> > jpyeron@blackfat ~
> > $ virt-manager
> 
> Right.  The real problem here is that virt-manager is still using
> python2, which long past EOL, and is planned to be removed.
> 
> The current plan, per [1] is for virt-manager to become uninstallable
> after this, and see if anyone complains.
> 
> If virt-manager is important to you, perhaps you could help us bring it
> up to date?
> 
> [1] https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-apps/2023-April/042778.html



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Re: libxml2 and python not happy... solution downgrade libxml2

2023-05-10 Thread Jon Turney via Cygwin

On 09/05/2023 23:33, Jason Pyeron via Cygwin wrote:

$ virt-manager
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virt-manager", line 35, in 
 from virtinst import util as util
   File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/__init__.py", line 18, in 
 from virtcli import CLIConfig as _CLIConfig
   File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtcli/__init__.py", line 3, in 
 from .cliconfig import CLIConfig
   File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtcli/cliconfig.py", line 24, in 
 import ConfigParser
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'ConfigParser'


[...]


#downgrade libxml2...

$ cygcheck -c libxml2 python27-libxml2
Cygwin Package Information
Package  VersionStatus
libxml2  2.9.10-2   OK
python27-libxml2 2.9.10-2   OK

jpyeron@blackfat ~
$ ./test.py

jpyeron@blackfat ~
$ virt-manager


Right.  The real problem here is that virt-manager is still using 
python2, which long past EOL, and is planned to be removed.


The current plan, per [1] is for virt-manager to become uninstallable 
after this, and see if anyone complains.


If virt-manager is important to you, perhaps you could help us bring it 
up to date?


[1] https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-apps/2023-April/042778.html


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libxml2 and python not happy... solution downgrade libxml2

2023-05-09 Thread Jason Pyeron via Cygwin
$ virt-manager
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virt-manager", line 35, in 
from virtinst import util as util
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/__init__.py", line 18, in 
from virtcli import CLIConfig as _CLIConfig
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtcli/__init__.py", line 3, in 
from .cliconfig import CLIConfig
  File "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtcli/cliconfig.py", line 24, in 
import ConfigParser
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'ConfigParser'

$ cat -n test.py
 1  #!/usr/bin/env python2
 2
 3  import libxml2

$ ./test.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./test.py", line 3, in 
import libxml2
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/libxml2.py", line 1, in 
import libxml2mod
ImportError: No such process

$ cygcheck -l libxml2 python27-libxml2
/etc/postinstall/libxml2.sh
/usr/bin/cygxml2-2.dll
/usr/bin/xmlcatalog.exe
/usr/bin/xmllint.exe
/usr/share/man/man1/xmlcatalog.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/xmllint.1.gz
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/drv_libxml2.py
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/drv_libxml2.pyc
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/drv_libxml2.pyo
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/libxml2.py
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/libxml2.pyc
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/libxml2.pyo
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/libxml2mod.dll

$ cygcheck -c libxml2 python27-libxml2
Cygwin Package Information
Package  VersionStatus
libxml2  2.10.4-2   OK
python27-libxml2 2.9.10-2   OK

#downgrade libxml2...

$ cygcheck -c libxml2 python27-libxml2
Cygwin Package Information
Package  VersionStatus
libxml2  2.9.10-2   OK
python27-libxml2 2.9.10-2   OK

jpyeron@blackfat ~
$ ./test.py

jpyeron@blackfat ~
$ virt-manager


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Re: Downgrade opensshh from 7.4 to 5.1?

2017-04-04 Thread cyg Simple
On 4/3/2017 12:23 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 3 April 2017 at 11:03, cyg Simple <cygsim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4/3/2017 10:45 AM, Kleine Raphael wrote:
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> My client can not support OpenSSH_7.2p2 (OpenSSL 1.0.2h  3 May 2016)
>>> and I must downgrade the server to OpenSSH_5.1p1 (OpenSSL 0.9.8l 5 Nov
>>> 2009)
>>>
>>
>> Explain more the "can not support".
>>
> 
> While I agree we need more information, this may be one of the cases
> where a person is trying to be circumspect due to other policies.
> 
> I think that the OpenSSH after 6.9 started dropping support for older
> algorithms (https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-7.0) . If you are
> using SSH to manage various industrial equipment then you are pretty
> much stuck with using older SSH because the equipment may only support
> RC4 or maybe only has keys of 512 or 768 bits. [Trying to get an
> industrial manufacturer to update equipment is a multi-decade process.
> They may have just started creating hardware which has SSH vs straight
> telnet and they won't update to a newer version of SSH until 2028 :/]

That may be true except for PCI compliance[1] where every piece of
equipment between the processor and computer needs to be 1024 bit
standard.  I'm well aware of the fact that the change takes time even in
my own professional job there are still certificates that carry the 512
bit cert data.  That doesn't mean the business is not trying to upgrade
but due to the sheer mass of computers running the business there are a
few with OLD, OUT-OF-DATE hardware and OS.  However where the business
is outward facing the whole process has been updated without delay.

[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Card_Industry_Data_Security_Standard

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Re: Downgrade opensshh from 7.4 to 5.1?

2017-04-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 3 April 2017 at 11:03, cyg Simple <cygsim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/3/2017 10:45 AM, Kleine Raphael wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> My client can not support OpenSSH_7.2p2 (OpenSSL 1.0.2h  3 May 2016)
>> and I must downgrade the server to OpenSSH_5.1p1 (OpenSSL 0.9.8l 5 Nov
>> 2009)
>>
>
> Explain more the "can not support".
>

While I agree we need more information, this may be one of the cases
where a person is trying to be circumspect due to other policies.

I think that the OpenSSH after 6.9 started dropping support for older
algorithms (https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-7.0) . If you are
using SSH to manage various industrial equipment then you are pretty
much stuck with using older SSH because the equipment may only support
RC4 or maybe only has keys of 512 or 768 bits. [Trying to get an
industrial manufacturer to update equipment is a multi-decade process.
They may have just started creating hardware which has SSH vs straight
telnet and they won't update to a newer version of SSH until 2028 :/]



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Re: Downgrade opensshh from 7.4 to 5.1?

2017-04-03 Thread cyg Simple
On 4/3/2017 10:45 AM, Kleine Raphael wrote:
> Hello
> 
> My client can not support OpenSSH_7.2p2 (OpenSSL 1.0.2h  3 May 2016)
> and I must downgrade the server to OpenSSH_5.1p1 (OpenSSL 0.9.8l 5 Nov
> 2009)
> 

Explain more the "can not support".

> but i can not find an old version of Cygwin (1.6.10 for exemple).
> 
> - Is there a way to find old version of Cygwin with OpenSSH_5.1p1 ?
> or
> - Is it possible to only downgrade the openSSH from 7.2p2 to 5.1p1?
> 

Search for Cygwin Time Machine.

But you may want to find ways for the client to work around the issues
of the newest versions due to important security issues.  Explain what
could be done in the older version that cannot be done with the newest
version.  Perhaps someone will have suggestions.

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Downgrade opensshh from 7.4 to 5.1?

2017-04-03 Thread Kleine Raphael
Hello

My client can not support OpenSSH_7.2p2 (OpenSSL 1.0.2h  3 May 2016)
and I must downgrade the server to OpenSSH_5.1p1 (OpenSSL 0.9.8l 5 Nov
2009)

but i can not find an old version of Cygwin (1.6.10 for exemple).

- Is there a way to find old version of Cygwin with OpenSSH_5.1p1 ?
or
- Is it possible to only downgrade the openSSH from 7.2p2 to 5.1p1?

Thanks in advance for your help

Raphael

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[PATCH setup 04/10] Downgrade "Running preremove script" logging to debug

2016-08-02 Thread Jon Turney
This is emitted for every package, regardless of it has any scripts or not.
Actual script execution is logged separately.

Also a cosmetic fix to remove a doubled space.
---
 install.cc | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/install.cc b/install.cc
index 2b714bc..f54acdc 100644
--- a/install.cc
+++ b/install.cc
@@ -159,7 +159,7 @@ Installer::preremoveOne (packagemeta & pkg)
 {
   Progress.SetText1 ("Running preremove script...");
   Progress.SetText2 (pkg.name.c_str());
-  Log (LOG_PLAIN) << "Running preremove script for  " << pkg.name << endLog;
+  Log (LOG_BABBLE) << "Running preremove script for " << pkg.name << endLog;
   const unsigned numexts = 4;
   const char* exts[numexts] = { ".dash", ".sh", ".bat", ".cmd" };
   for (unsigned i = 0; i < numexts; i++)
-- 
2.8.3



downgrade to cygwin-1.5.24-2

2008-03-18 Thread Gaston Martin
Hi. I'm facing some problems with Cygwin 1.5.25.11 under Windows Vista, the 
most annonying is puttycyg not working anymore.. So I realized that I need 
to downgrade to the last version supported by puttycyg 
(http://web.gccaz.edu/~medgar/puttycyg/)


The thing is. No previous versions of cygwin are available for install. So 
how can I downgrade my current (and latest) Cygwin version to the earlier 
1.5.24-2  ?


Best regards!
Gaston 



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Re: downgrade to cygwin-1.5.24-2

2008-03-18 Thread Brian Dessent
Gaston Martin wrote:

 The thing is. No previous versions of cygwin are available for install. So

No, there's always one previous version available, in this case
1.5.25-7.

 how can I downgrade my current (and latest) Cygwin version to the earlier
 1.5.24-2  ?

a) Check the directory of your favorite mirror, most keep more than just
the prev/curr versions.
b) Build it from source yourself.
c) Use the Cygwin time machine site.

Brian

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Re: downgrade to cygwin-1.5.24-2

2008-03-18 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin)

Gaston Martin wrote:
Hi. I'm facing some problems with Cygwin 1.5.25.11 under Windows Vista, 
the most annonying is puttycyg not working anymore.. So I realized that 
I need to downgrade to the last version supported by puttycyg 
(http://web.gccaz.edu/~medgar/puttycyg/)


It would probably be more appropriate to say the last known working version
of cygwin1.dll with puttycyg, since Cygwin 1.5.x is backward-compatible
with older versions.

Have you reported the problem to the list (see
http://cygwin.com/problems.html)?  Doing so could make your need for
an old, unsupported version of the DLL moot.

The thing is. No previous versions of cygwin are available for install. 
So how can I downgrade my current (and latest) Cygwin version to the 
earlier 1.5.24-2  ?


Current mirrors should have this.  Your local download directory might
have it too.  If it does, just tell 'setup.exe' to install from your
local directory and 1.5.24-2 will show up as an option.  If you don't
have it in your local download directory, use 'wget' or your other
favorite tool to download it from a mirror and put it in your local
download directory.  There's also the Cygwin Time Machine (google it).
Note that neither process for installing old DLLs is recommended and
the older versions are not supported by this list.


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RE: downgrade to cygwin-1.5.24-2

2008-03-18 Thread Dave Korn
Gaston Martin wrote on 18 March 2008 16:07:

 Hi. I'm facing some problems with Cygwin 1.5.25.11 under Windows Vista,
 the most annonying is puttycyg not working anymore.. So I realized that I
 need to downgrade to the last version supported by puttycyg
 (http://web.gccaz.edu/~medgar/puttycyg/)
 
 The thing is. No previous versions of cygwin are available for install. So
 how can I downgrade my current (and latest) Cygwin version to the earlier
 1.5.24-2  ?


  Google the list archives for cygwin time machine.


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problems starting X, downgrade finally helped

2006-08-17 Thread Gerhard Gonter
FWIW, I also ran into the problem with the X server not being able
to load the fixed font.  After trying all the umounts, mounts and
reinstalls that were suggested, I finally gave up and downgraded
the xorg-x11 packages, including base, bin and all the fonts,
from 6.8.99.901-1 to 6.8.1 or 6.8.2.  After that downgrade, startx
immediately worked again without any problem.

Anyway, I'll try to stay with that version for the time being.

GG


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Downgrade

2005-06-14 Thread Prash
Hi Peeps,

How do I downgrade Cygwin to an earlier version? I managed to compile
and successfully run htdig on cygwin last december. But now with the
same version of htdig it is giving nasty errors which is related to
cygwin. I want to revert to an older version .. how can I do it?

TIA

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Re: Downgrade

2005-06-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 11:32:52AM +0100, Prash wrote:
How do I downgrade Cygwin to an earlier version? I managed to compile
and successfully run htdig on cygwin last december. But now with the
same version of htdig it is giving nasty errors which is related to
cygwin. I want to revert to an older version .. how can I do it?

I think you need to use the cygwin --NoNastyErrors option.  That should
do it.

cgf

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Re: Downgrade

2005-06-14 Thread Prash
??

All I'm asking is where can I get an earlier version of cygwin

If you need more info then here's the post from htdig
-
htdig.exe refuses to run on Cygwin 
htdig.exe crashes with DB2 error. Permissions are fine 
and the script is being run as administrator. Both 3.1.6 
and 3.2.* report this problem with the latest version of 
cygwin.

I've also tried clearing everything inside db directory in 
vain. It does create db.docdb and wordlist.new file and 
then bombs out.


$ rundig
DB2 problem...: PANIC: Invalid argument
DB2 problem...: /opt/www/htdig/db/db.docdb: write failed 
for page 1
htdig: Unable to open/create document 
database '/opt/www/htdig/db/db.docdb'

htmerge: Unable to open word list 
file '/opt/www/htdig/db/db.wordlist'.
Did you index anything?
Check your config file and try running htdig again.

DB2 problem...: /opt/www/htdig/db/db.docdb: dirty flag 
set for readonly file pa
e
DB2 problem...: /opt/www/htdig/db/db.docdb: close: 2 
blocks left pinned

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On 6/14/05, Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 11:32:52AM +0100, Prash wrote:
 How do I downgrade Cygwin to an earlier version? I managed to compile
 and successfully run htdig on cygwin last december. But now with the
 same version of htdig it is giving nasty errors which is related to
 cygwin. I want to revert to an older version .. how can I do it?
 
 I think you need to use the cygwin --NoNastyErrors option.  That should
 do it.
 
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Re: Downgrade

2005-06-14 Thread Larry Hall
At 12:25 PM 6/14/2005, you wrote:
??

All I'm asking is where can I get an earlier version of cygwin


An earlier version (1) is available via 'setup.exe'.  This is generally true 
for all Cygwin packages.  I doubt you'll find a version of Cygwin package
from December by downgrading via 'setup.exe' using traditional mirrors 
though.  Doing a downgrade is discouraged as a long-term solution since 
problems not reported and fixed will likely stay unfixed, leaving you stuck
with some aging and obsolete version of Cygwin.  If you feel this is the 
direction you would prefer to go anyway, I suggest you google the list for 
the Cygwin Time Machine.  Make sure you read carefully the homepage for 
this before using it however.


If you need more info then here's the post from htdig
-
htdig.exe refuses to run on Cygwin 
htdig.exe crashes with DB2 error. Permissions are fine 
and the script is being run as administrator. Both 3.1.6 
and 3.2.* report this problem with the latest version of 
cygwin.

I've also tried clearing everything inside db directory in 
vain. It does create db.docdb and wordlist.new file and 
then bombs out.


$ rundig
DB2 problem...: PANIC: Invalid argument
DB2 problem...: /opt/www/htdig/db/db.docdb: write failed 
for page 1
htdig: Unable to open/create document 
database '/opt/www/htdig/db/db.docdb'

htmerge: Unable to open word list 
file '/opt/www/htdig/db/db.wordlist'.
Did you index anything?
Check your config file and try running htdig again.

DB2 problem...: /opt/www/htdig/db/db.docdb: dirty flag 
set for readonly file pa
e
DB2 problem...: /opt/www/htdig/db/db.docdb: close: 2 
blocks left pinned



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Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: downgrade a 5-button- to a 3-button-mouse

2005-04-19 Thread Hermann-Josef Beckers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 18.04.2005 18:54:11:


 
 I've placed a small program on http://www.tu-chemnitz.
 de/~goal/xfree/msgtest.exe
 which will dump the messages to the console. Please run it and report 
 what it prints when pressing the onscreen keys and what it reports 
 when pressing the physical key.
 

Attached two files:



keyboard.out contains the messages, when entering F6 via the attached 
keyboard.
menu.out contains the messages generated by clicking the button 
labeled F6 in the panel.

NB. I had a problem in using msgtest.exe from a bash prompt. 
The X server was active, but no window appeared and msgtest.exe
didn't spew any messages. I had to start a xterm from the bash
prompt and then start msgtest.exe.

Yours
hjb

keyboard.out
Description: Binary data


menu.out
Description: Binary data


Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: downgrade a 5-button- to a 3-button-mouse

2005-04-19 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Hermann-Josef Beckers wrote:

 keyboard.out contains the messages, when entering F6 via the attached 
 keyboard.
 menu.out contains the messages generated by clicking the button 
 labeled F6 in the panel.

The log from keyboard.out shows the keypress

WindowProc: HWND 0075 0041 WM_KEYDOWN
WindowProc: HWND 0075 c041 WM_KEYUP

The menu.out log has no indication that anything happend. Unless I get
more information on the type of display and how the on screen keys work
I can not provide a solution.

 NB. I had a problem in using msgtest.exe from a bash prompt. 
 The X server was active, but no window appeared and msgtest.exe
 didn't spew any messages. I had to start a xterm from the bash
 prompt and then start msgtest.exe.

I only tested it with xterm, so I did notice this before.

bye
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Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: downgrade a 5-button- to a 3-button-mouse

2005-04-19 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Hermann-Josef Beckers wrote:

 cygwin-xfree-owneratcygwindotcom schrieb am 18.04.2005 18:54:11:

http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR.  Thanks.

  I've placed a small program on
  http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/msgtest.exe which will dump the
  messages to the console. Please run it and report what it prints when
  pressing the onscreen keys and what it reports when pressing the
  physical key.

 Attached two files:

 keyboard.out contains the messages, when entering F6 via the attached
 keyboard.
 menu.out contains the messages generated by clicking the button
 labeled F6 in the panel.

 NB. I had a problem in using msgtest.exe from a bash prompt.
 The X server was active, but no window appeared and msgtest.exe
 didn't spew any messages. I had to start a xterm from the bash
 prompt and then start msgtest.exe.

In bash, you needed to say

DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 msgtest

In an xterm, the DISPLAY is already set.
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downgrade a 5-button- to a 3-button-mouse

2005-04-18 Thread Hermann-Josef Beckers
We are running a propietary application on a tablet pc  (windows XP 
Tablet-PC-Edition).. Most
everything works, but there is a small glitch: For handling reasons some 
(function-)keys
are combined into a small panel. Clicking the keys with the pen has no 
effect. Entering these
keys with the virtual keyboard or a real attached keyboard works.

From the support-line:
This application DGK5 supports the configuration of a 3-button-mouse 
only. In Cygwin is a
5-button-mouse configured. You have to configure the Cygwin-X-server in 
such a way,
that a 3-button-mouse is recognized.

HOW? 
A Xfree-conf-file isn't used in Cygwin (AFAIK). -emulate3buttons has no 
effect, as it works 
the other way up (3 buttons on a 2-button-mouse). 

Any hints?

Yours 
hjb


Re: downgrade a 5-button- to a 3-button-mouse

2005-04-18 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Hermann-Josef Beckers wrote:

 We are running a propietary application on a tablet pc  (windows XP 
 Tablet-PC-Edition).. Most
 everything works, but there is a small glitch: For handling reasons some 
 (function-)keys
 are combined into a small panel. Clicking the keys with the pen has no 
 effect. Entering these
 keys with the virtual keyboard or a real attached keyboard works.
 
 From the support-line:
 This application DGK5 supports the configuration of a 3-button-mouse 
 only. In Cygwin is a
 5-button-mouse configured. You have to configure the Cygwin-X-server in 
 such a way,
 that a 3-button-mouse is recognized.
 
 HOW? 
 A Xfree-conf-file isn't used in Cygwin (AFAIK). -emulate3buttons has no 
 effect, as it works 
 the other way up (3 buttons on a 2-button-mouse). 

Cygwin/X will use a 3button mouse by default and ask windows how many additional
buttons the mouse supports. I'm have no idea how these special function keys 
are 
supposed to work, but functions keys which depend on a mouse setting are broken
in my opinion. 

You may check with xev if the keys are somehow recognized in Cygwin/X 
nevertheless.

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Antwort: Re: downgrade a 5-button- to a 3-button-mouse

2005-04-18 Thread Hermann-Josef Beckers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 18.04.2005 15:39:43:

 
 Cygwin/X will use a 3button mouse by default and ask windows how 
 many additional
 buttons the mouse supports. I'm have no idea how these special 
 function keys are 
 supposed to work, but functions keys which depend on a mouse settingare 
broken
 in my opinion. 
 
Problem is there is no real mouse, only the pen/stylus acting
as a mouse. The mailinglist has a short thread (2 messages) from
march 2003; Harold suggestesd using -multiwindow: it is activated,
no chance.

 You may check with xev if the keys are somehow recognized in 
 Cygwin/X nevertheless.

Following are three xev-traces from entering the panel, 
clicking the button labeled F6 and leaving.


Run 1:

EnterNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
root 0x3a, subw 0x800533, time 1469359, (55,0), root:(141,374),
mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinearVirtual, same_screen YES,
focus YES, state 0

KeymapNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
keys:  58  0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0 
   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0 

VisibilityNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
state VisibilityPartiallyObscured

VisibilityNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
state VisibilityUnobscured

ConfigureNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
event 0x80051f, window 0x80051f, (86,374), width 202, height 173,
border_width 0, above 0x800427, override NO

ConfigureNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
event 0x80051f, window 0x80051f, (86,374), width 202, height 173,
border_width 0, above 0xa1, override NO

ConfigureNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
event 0x80051f, window 0x80051f, (86,374), width 202, height 173,
border_width 0, above 0x800427, override NO

VisibilityNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
state VisibilityPartiallyObscured

VisibilityNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
state VisibilityUnobscured

KeyRelease event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 1481218, (90,39), root:(176,413),
state 0x0, keycode 8 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 

VisibilityNotify event, serial 16, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
state VisibilityPartiallyObscured

VisibilityNotify event, serial 16, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
state VisibilityUnobscured

VisibilityNotify event, serial 16, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
state VisibilityPartiallyObscured

VisibilityNotify event, serial 16, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
state VisibilityUnobscured

LeaveNotify event, seria

Second try:


EnterNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
root 0x3a, subw 0x800533, time 1569578, (159,14), root:(245,388),
mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinearVirtual, same_screen YES,
focus YES, state 0

KeymapNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
keys:  58  0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0 
   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0 

LeaveNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
root 0x3a, subw 0x800533, time 1570375, (83,-12), root:(169,362),
mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyVirtual, same_screen YES,
focus YES, state 0

ConfigureNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
event 0x80051f, window 0x80051f, (86,374), width 202, height 173,
border_width 0, above 0xa1, override NO

ConfigureNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
event 0x80051f, window 0x80051f, (86,374), width 202, height 173,
border_width 0, above 0xa1, override NO

EnterNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
root 0x3a, subw 0x800533, time 1571937, (112,13), root:(198,387),
mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyVirtual, same_screen YES,
focus YES, state 0

KeymapNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
keys:  58  0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0 
   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0 

LeaveNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
root 0x3a, subw 0x800533, time 1572000, (222,81), root:(308,455),
mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinearVirtual, same_screen YES,
focus YES, state 0

EnterNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
root 0x3a, subw 0x800533, time 1581203, (185,18), root:(271,392),
mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinearVirtual, same_screen YES,
focus YES, state 0


Third try:

EnterNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
root 0x3a, subw 0x800533, time 3836140, (162,1), root:(248,375),
mode NotifyNormal, detail NotifyNonlinearVirtual, same_screen YES,
focus YES, state 0

KeymapNotify event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
keys:  58  0   0   0  

Re: Antwort: Re: downgrade a 5-button- to a 3-button-mouse

2005-04-18 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Hermann-Josef Beckers wrote:

 Problem is there is no real mouse, only the pen/stylus acting
 as a mouse. The mailinglist has a short thread (2 messages) from
 march 2003; Harold suggestesd using -multiwindow: it is activated,
 no chance.

For windows there are basicly two input devices. Keyboards and mice. 
Keyboards will generate keypress and release events (WM_KEYDOWN). 
Mice produce button press and relese events (WM_[LMRX]BUTTONDOWN) 
for the left, middle, right and extra buttons. 

The WM_KEYUP has two kind of key information attached. The raw keyboard
scancodes and the codes after applying the keyboard layout. Cygwin/X 
only uses the raw scancodes. If they don't match the real key it is very 
likely the key is not recognized.

I've placed a small program on http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/msgtest.exe
which will dump the messages to the console. Please run it and report 
what it prints when pressing the onscreen keys and what it reports 
when pressing the physical key.

 KeyRelease event, serial 13, synthetic NO, window 0x80051f,
 root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 1481218, (90,39), root:(176,413),
 state 0x0, keycode 8 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,
 XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 

This is just the release. There was no keypress event. Either some flags
are wrong or the scancode was not right.

bye
ago
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How do I downgrade to cygwin-1.5.10-3

2005-01-07 Thread Satish Balay

I'm seeing some wierd behavior - I'd like to downgrade to
cygwin-1.5.10-3 - and see if this goes away.

The cygwin setup gives the option of downgrading to cygwin-1.5.11-1 -
but not cygwin-1.5.10-3. (I'm currently using the latest 1.5.12-1)

How can I downgrade to cygwin-1.5.10-3? (I have the
cygwin-1.5.10.3.tar.bz2 file in the cygwin-install cache)

Thanks,
Satish

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Re: How do I downgrade to cygwin-1.5.10-3

2005-01-07 Thread Satish Balay
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Satish Balay wrote:

 
 I'm seeing some wierd behavior - I'd like to downgrade to
 cygwin-1.5.10-3 - and see if this goes away.
 
 The cygwin setup gives the option of downgrading to cygwin-1.5.11-1 -
 but not cygwin-1.5.10-3. (I'm currently using the latest 1.5.12-1)
 
 How can I downgrade to cygwin-1.5.10-3? (I have the
 cygwin-1.5.10.3.tar.bz2 file in the cygwin-install cache)

Oh well..

I tried the 'tar' installer and I get errors of type:
tye procedure entry point _impure_ptr could not be located in cygwin.dll
I get the same error with cygwin-1.5.11-1.

I guess a downgrade from '1.5.12' is a no-no..

Satish

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Re: How do I downgrade to cygwin-1.5.10-3

2005-01-07 Thread Larry Hall
At 05:48 PM 1/7/2005, you wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Satish Balay wrote:

 
 I'm seeing some wierd behavior - I'd like to downgrade to
 cygwin-1.5.10-3 - and see if this goes away.
 
 The cygwin setup gives the option of downgrading to cygwin-1.5.11-1 -
 but not cygwin-1.5.10-3. (I'm currently using the latest 1.5.12-1)
 
 How can I downgrade to cygwin-1.5.10-3? (I have the
 cygwin-1.5.10.3.tar.bz2 file in the cygwin-install cache)

Oh well..

I tried the 'tar' installer and I get errors of type:
tye procedure entry point _impure_ptr could not be located in cygwin.dll
I get the same error with cygwin-1.5.11-1.

I guess a downgrade from '1.5.12' is a no-no..


If you can find a stale mirror that contains cygwin-1.5.10-3, then you 
may find that you get the above message if you install it.  You'll get 
such a message for any packages you have locally installed that are built 
against a later version of the Cygwin package than what you have currently
installed.



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Re: How do I downgrade to cygwin-1.5.10-3

2005-01-07 Thread Satish Balay
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Larry Hall wrote:

 If you can find a stale mirror that contains cygwin-1.5.10-3, then you 
 may find that you get the above message if you install it. 

Isn't that the challange? :). The few mirrors I tried are up2date..

 You'll get such a message for any packages you have locally
 installed that are built against a later version of the Cygwin
 package than what you have currently installed.

I managed to select 'prev' instead of 'current' in setup.exe - and
downgrade all packages to their older versions (this gets rid of the
_impure_ptr error). However I can't downgrade cygwin to
cygwin-1.5.10-3 cleanly.

I'm able to use 'tar' method to downgrade to 1.5.10-3 - and try a few
things out. But I can't make it permanant - as 'cygcheck -c cygwin'
gives 1.5.11 - and this breaks some other tools.

Satish

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Re: How do I downgrade to cygwin-1.5.10-3

2005-01-07 Thread Satish Balay
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Satish Balay wrote:

 I'm able to use 'tar' method to downgrade to 1.5.10-3 - and try a few
 things out. But I can't make it permanant - as 'cygcheck -c cygwin'
 gives 1.5.11 - and this breaks some other tools.

ok - I just had to edit /etc/setup/installed.db - and change
cygwin-1.5.11 to cygwin-1.5.10-3

Satish

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default keep, allow downgrade...

2003-03-09 Thread linda w \(cyg\)


   * Don't downgrade if the curr version is = installed?
  I vote yes.
---
Can it just default to 'keep', and if the user overrides it,
then they get what they choose?  I mean if a user installs a beta
and something breaks for them, they might want to go back.

-linda





Re: default keep, allow downgrade...

2003-03-09 Thread Max Bowsher
linda w (cyg) wrote:
  * Don't downgrade if the curr version is = installed?
 I vote yes.
 ---
 Can it just default to 'keep', and if the user overrides it,
 then they get what they choose?  I mean if a user installs a beta
 and something breaks for them, they might want to go back.

Yes, all we are discussing here is the default action.


Max.



Installer Exp View lacks newer versions after using Keep/Downgrade

2002-10-30 Thread Robert Fenk
Hi,

after having some problems with the latest Versions of some
packages I used the installer to downgrade to a previous
version or keep an existing version, e.g. I did it for the
cygwin DLL.

If I call the installer now I will not show me expired
version any more in the Exp view.  Is there a trick to
get the desired behavior back?

Thanks
Robert.


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Re: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for cygwin]

2002-04-06 Thread Cliff Hones

 setup should probably *never* suggest either going backwards or uninstalling.

Never say never?  Suppose a showstopper bug is found in a released
package - say one which could result in filestore or configuration
corruption.  The quickest solution would be to revert to the
previous version, and to make this painless (and avoid traffic here)
having the downgrade done automatically by setup would be nice.

A flag in setup.ini to indicate that a package version has been
withdrawn would do - something like withdrawn : version.

Of course the correct solution would be to rebuild the previous
working version with a higher number, or even better, to fix the
bug, but sometimes time is of the essence.

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RE: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for cygwin]

2002-04-06 Thread Robert Collins



 -Original Message-
 From: Cliff Hones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 7:03 PM

 Never say never?  Suppose a showstopper bug is found in a 
 released package - say one which could result in filestore or 
 configuration corruption.  The quickest solution would be to 
 revert to the previous version, and to make this painless 
 (and avoid traffic here) having the downgrade done 
 automatically by setup would be nice.

That's the point of the 'test' marking. And that's why currently curr
overrides test even if test is a higher version number.
 
Rob

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Re: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for cygwin]

2002-04-06 Thread Cliff Hones


From: Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for cygwin]
  From: Cliff Hones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 7:03 PM
 
  Never say never?  Suppose a showstopper bug is found in a 
  released package - say one which could result in filestore or 
  configuration corruption.  The quickest solution would be to 
  revert to the previous version, and to make this painless 
  (and avoid traffic here) having the downgrade done 
  automatically by setup would be nice.
 
 That's the point of the 'test' marking. And that's why currently curr
 overrides test even if test is a higher version number.

I see - so a current version can be 'pulled' by moving it
to test.  And setup.exe always by default downgrades all test
packages to current, unless 'Exp' is selected, when it
by default upgrades all current packages to test.  Ok, but
this seems a little clumsy - it would be nicer if the selection
of packages explicitly downloaded as test in the past could be
remembered so it's not necessary to reselect them individually
(or risk running all test versions, including 'pulled' ones).
And if setup were extended to do this, it would have to work on
the basis of which ones were installed using the setup.ini
test section - not by seeing if the previously installed
version was now in the test category.

As I wasn't sure I understood how setup currently deals with
test, I just tried it with autoconf-devel.  This showed up
what seems to be a bug.  I didn't have the test version of
autoconf-devel in my local install directory, but didn't
realise this, so I ran 'install from local directory'.
The Exp/partial view showed the test version of autoconf-devel.
I returned to 'Curr', explicitly picked the test version of
autoconf-devel, and started the install.
But this failed - it uninstalled the old autoconf-devel, then
couldn't find the new one.  setup.log.full attached.  This seems
wrong - it shouldn't be offering to install a package which isn't
present locally.

Maybe something like this is what is happening to people who have
reported that they needed to run setup several times to get everything
installed right, and found some of the base packages were initially missing?
[Though that's never happened to me.]

Next I ran 'download from internet'.  Because the previous install
managed to uninstall autoconf-devel, it was now shown in the
'skip' state, even after I clicked on 'Exp', and I had to explicitly
choose to download the test version.  [It didn't even tell me I
already have the current version of autoconf-devel available.]

[I've already mentioned I'm not happy with the current download
mode - I think it loses a lot of its potential power, and is also
confusing, by being intertwined with the current install state.
Indeed, I see little value in separating the download and install
as currently implemented.  Seeing no comment after my earlier mail,
do I assume I'm either doing something wrong, or nobody else finds 
this a problem?]

I hope you find these comments constructive.  I do feel setup.exe
is a great tool, though it still has a few rough edges.

Cliff.






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RE: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for cygwin]

2002-04-06 Thread Robert Collins



 -Original Message-
 From: Cliff Hones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 12:07 AM

Thanks for the feedback.. I'll have a look in the logs tomorrow.

 [I've already mentioned I'm not happy with the current 
 download mode - I think it loses a lot of its potential 
 power, and is also confusing, by being intertwined with the 
 current install state. 

And yet, I can see a lot of annoyed folk if setup in download mode tried
to download *everything* not present by default. It's easy enough to
tell setup to download everything regardless of local state - click all
categorie's action symbol to redownload, and you are done. Does that
address your concern?

Anyway, I may misunderstand what you meant, so feel free to elaborate or
patch.

 Indeed, I see little value in 
 separating the download and install as currently implemented. 
  Seeing no comment after my earlier mail, do I assume I'm 
 either doing something wrong, or nobody else finds 
 this a problem?]

Simply use the 'install from internet' mode. It downloads and installs
in one foul swoop.
 
 I hope you find these comments constructive.  I do feel 
 setup.exe is a great tool, though it still has a few rough edges.

Thank you, and agreed.

Rob

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RE: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for Cygwin]

2002-04-05 Thread Robert Collins

Redirect this to cygwin-apps please folk.

 -Original Message-
 From: David A. Cobb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:59 AM

TODO
[..]
* Don't downgrade if the curr version is = installed?
 
 Btw, this should apply to test too, I think.
 
 I agree.  It's annoying at best to install a group of test 
 packages and 
 then, the next time I run setup, if I don't watch carefully 
 they would 
 revert to the current.

See the cygwin-apps thread started by cgf, about seeing the light. It
would solve this problem cleanly and permanently.
 
Rob



Re: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for cygwin]

2002-04-05 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:21:57AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: David A. Cobb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:59 AM

TODO
[..]
* Don't downgrade if the curr version is = installed?

Btw, this should apply to test too, I think.

I agree.  It's annoying at best to install a group of test packages and
then, the next time I run setup, if I don't watch carefully they would
revert to the current.

See the cygwin-apps thread started by cgf, about seeing the light.  It
would solve this problem cleanly and permanently.

I'm not sure how.  If you're talking about my suggestion, if you switched
to a test view and installed things, the next time you ran setup you'd
still default to current so, I presume that setup would still suggest a
downgrade.

setup should probably *never* suggest either going backwards or uninstalling.

cgf



RE: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for cygwin]

2002-04-05 Thread Robert Collins



 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 4:20 PM

 
 I'm not sure how.  If you're talking about my suggestion, if 
 you switched to a test view and installed things, the next 
 time you ran setup you'd still default to current so, I 
 presume that setup would still suggest a downgrade.

Sorry, I was taking as read that if we made the three things into three
effectively different distributions that setup would remember the last
choice of prev/curr/test.
 
 setup should probably *never* suggest either going backwards 
 or uninstalling.

I think it should suggest uninstalling when a requirement is uninstalled
- but in a very visible fashion. As for going backwards, I haven't
thought that completely through yet.

Rob



RE: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for Cygwin]

2002-04-05 Thread Robert Collins

Redirect this to cygwin-apps please folk.

 -Original Message-
 From: David A. Cobb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:59 AM

TODO
[..]
* Don't downgrade if the curr version is = installed?
 
 Btw, this should apply to test too, I think.
 
 I agree.  It's annoying at best to install a group of test 
 packages and 
 then, the next time I run setup, if I don't watch carefully 
 they would 
 revert to the current.

See the cygwin-apps thread started by cgf, about seeing the light. It
would solve this problem cleanly and permanently.
 
Rob

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Re: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for cygwin]

2002-04-05 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:21:57AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: David A. Cobb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:59 AM

TODO
[..]
* Don't downgrade if the curr version is = installed?

Btw, this should apply to test too, I think.

I agree.  It's annoying at best to install a group of test packages and
then, the next time I run setup, if I don't watch carefully they would
revert to the current.

See the cygwin-apps thread started by cgf, about seeing the light.  It
would solve this problem cleanly and permanently.

I'm not sure how.  If you're talking about my suggestion, if you switched
to a test view and installed things, the next time you ran setup you'd
still default to current so, I presume that setup would still suggest a
downgrade.

setup should probably *never* suggest either going backwards or uninstalling.

cgf

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Re: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for Cygwin]

2002-04-04 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen

Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 By the way, are you using the latest setup.exe from Cygwin?  Setup.exe
 should never suggest to downgrade, I think.

Found the answer in the README that comes with setup: it's still a
TODO item:

   TODO
   [..]
   * Don't downgrade if the curr version is = installed?

Btw, this should apply to test too, I think.

Jan.   

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Re: Should setup suggests to downgrade? [WAS: Lillypond for cygwin]

2002-04-04 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 10:59:19AM -0500, David A. Cobb wrote:
An obvious problem is having everyone use a revision-level scheme that 
tests correctly.  I see at least two very different schemes here.   
Also, setup would need to parse, e.g. 1.9-3 so that it's less than 
1.10-1.  I'll have to do a more thorough survey to see if a simple 
minded algorithm would catch all the cases.

setup.exe has been able to determine that 1.9-3  1.10-1 for a couple
of years now.

cgf

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