Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
On 3.6.2017 14:05, Jon Turney wrote: After a bit more investigation, I'm not actually sure what is claimed to be the bug is here. As for the scrolling of window content, the behavior of Windows applications is not quite consistent. Some always scrolls the window (control) that has focus, regardless of cursor position. For example: Windows Explorer, CodeBlocks, or FileZilla. Others scrolls the window above which the cursor is located, no matter which control has the focus. For example: Firefox, Thunderbird, or Skype. It seems to me more intuitive to scroll the window over which the cursor is located, but someone else may prefer the first way. The bug You mentioned is inconsistent package list behavior. The list (which never has a focus) sometimes does not scroll and sometimes does scrolls - depending on whether focus is on drop-down or Search. The most comfortable (for users) solution would be to modify the package list to accept the focus. The list could highlight the line the user is working with, making package selection easier. Probably the smallest work leading to improvement would be to adjust the drop-down to ignore scrolling (as Search now does) and let scrolling event delivered to package list. Vlado -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
Greetings, Jon Turney! > This unhelpfulness is compounded by the fact that clicking in the > package list does not move the focus to it (because we use some > home-grown monstrosity rather than a list control), so perhaps that is > what should be fixed? I think so. There's workaround to that for now, the list scrolls for me if a focus is in search field. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Saturday, June 3, 2017 15:16:21 Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
On 02/06/2017 17:55, Vlado wrote: On 2.6.2017 17:49, Wayne Davison wrote: There are also some tools you can use on prior Windows versions. For instance, search the web for I still hope somebody will fix the bug. :-) Me too. Oh wait... :S After a bit more investigation, I'm not actually sure what is claimed to be the bug is here. On previous versions of Windows, we don't have the "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them" option, so we always get the behaviour that when the focus is on the "View" drop-down list, scrolling the mouse wheel moves up and down that list. But surely this is right (if unhelpful), that's where the focus is, after all... (Up until 2.875, this was a button which cycled around the possible views, rather than a drop-down list, so we didn't have this problem) This unhelpfulness is compounded by the fact that clicking in the package list does not move the focus to it (because we use some home-grown monstrosity rather than a list control), so perhaps that is what should be fixed? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
On 31/05/2017 21:15, Vlado wrote: Another problem with package list is this: Package's new status is changing by clicking only to "New" column with one exception. If status is "Keep", it is changed to "Uninstall" after click (even accidental) to any other column. Perhaps someone more experienced than I will be so kind and make corrections. Thanks in advance. Thanks for pointing this out. This looks like a bug which has been around for a long time, but should be straightforward to fix. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
On 2.6.2017 17:49, Wayne Davison wrote: There are also some tools you can use on prior Windows versions. For instance, search the web for I still hope somebody will fix the bug. :-) Vlado -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Jon Turney wrote: > I believe this [scrolling] option is new in Windows 10 That does indeed seem to be the case. There are also some tools you can use on prior Windows versions. For instance, search the web for "5 Tools to Scroll or Move Background Windows" and you'll find a nice assortment to choose from. ..wayne.. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
On 31/05/2017 16:04, Wayne Davison wrote: On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:48 AM, David Balažic wrote: it does not scroll the package list, instead it changes the selection in the mentioned drop down menu. One thing you should be able to do to work around this is to go to the mouse settings and enable the "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them" option. That allows you to scroll the list as long as your mouse is pointing at it. Ah, thanks very much for pointing that out. I can reproduce this with that setting turned off. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
On 31/05/2017 21:18, Andrey Repin wrote: Greetings, Wayne Davison! On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:48 AM, David Balažic wrote: it does not scroll the package list, instead it changes the selection in the mentioned drop down menu. One thing you should be able to do to work around this is to go to the mouse settings and enable the "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them" option. Where's that option? I believe this option is new in Windows 10 Settings/Devices/Mouse & touchpad. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
Greetings, Wayne Davison! > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:48 AM, David Balažic wrote: >> it does not scroll the package list, instead it changes the selection >> in the mentioned drop down menu. > One thing you should be able to do to work around this is to go to the > mouse settings and enable the "Scroll inactive windows when I hover > over them" option. Where's that option? > That allows you to scroll the list as long as your > mouse is pointing at it. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Wednesday, May 31, 2017 23:18:38 Sorry for my terrible english...
Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
On 31.5.2017 17:04, Wayne Davison wrote: On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:48 AM, David Balažic wrote: it does not scroll the package list, instead it changes the selection in the mentioned drop down menu. One thing you should be able to do to work around this is to go to the mouse settings and enable the "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them" option. That allows you to scroll the list as long as your mouse is pointing at it. In fact, this workaround depends on concrete mouse driver. On my system neither "HP Mouse Control center" nor "Mouse properties" in Control panel have "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them" option. Only workaround I found is to move focus to Search box. Another problem with package list is this: Package's new status is changing by clicking only to "New" column with one exception. If status is "Keep", it is changed to "Uninstall" after click (even accidental) to any other column. Perhaps someone more experienced than I will be so kind and make corrections. Thanks in advance. Vlado -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:48 AM, David Balažic wrote: > it does not scroll the package list, instead it changes the selection > in the mentioned drop down menu. One thing you should be able to do to work around this is to go to the mouse settings and enable the "Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them" option. That allows you to scroll the list as long as your mouse is pointing at it. ..wayne.. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Setup v2.879 - can not scroll package list
In the "Select Packages" part of the installer dialog, I selected in the "View" dropdown menu "Not Installed" and then tried to scroll thru the list using the mouse wheel. But it does not scroll the package list, instead it changes the selection in the mentioned drop down menu. Even after clicking inside the list control. Apparently clicking in the package list does not move the focus to it. It is the same in 32 bit and 64 bit version. Regards, David -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple