Re: chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-23 Thread Frank Fesevur
Andy Koppe:
 Corinna Vinschen:
 I just think  the -e option is along the lines of the -c option for shells.
 Every Unix shell has a -c option and it always means the same, even
 for csh and, FWIW, cmd.exe.

 Agreed, and implemented in 0.3.8.

Just to confirm that the original problem is solved by this.

Thanks!

Frank

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Re: chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-22 Thread Dave
Andy Koppe wrote:
 Corinna Vinschen:
  I just think  the -e option is along the lines of the -c option for shells.
 Every Unix shell has a -c option and it always means the same, even
 for csh and, FWIW, cmd.exe.
 
 Agreed, and implemented in 0.3.8.

Thanks all for sorting this out (only just got back from holiday). I
noticed the absence of -e in the options list, but assumed the list was
wrong since there were no complaints about it.


regards,

Dave.
chere maintainer

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Re: chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-20 Thread Andy Koppe
Corinna Vinschen:
 I just think  the -e option is along the lines of the -c option for shells.
 Every Unix shell has a -c option and it always means the same, even
 for csh and, FWIW, cmd.exe.

Agreed, and implemented in 0.3.8.

 I'd say that emulating the options in the common subset of rxvt's
 options and xterm's is probably a good idea - at least for options
 that affect the behavior (like -e) instead of just the appearance.

I'll leave it at just -e, like Konsole and gnome-terminal. Like those,
MinTTY is meant to be configured primarily through its GUI.
Alternatively, its config file can be edited manually.

Andy

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Re: chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-20 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Andy Koppe  wrote:
 I'll leave it at just -e, like Konsole and gnome-terminal. Like those,
 MinTTY is meant to be configured primarily through its GUI.
 Alternatively, its config file can be edited manually.

The point is that not all of those xterm command line arguments are
configuration.  Some are behavior. There's no hard and fast line
between those categories, but in general, configuration is relatively
static, while behavior is dynamic - as in, very likely to be different
every time you open a new window.

Admittedly, run this command (-e) and use this title (-title/-T)
are the only two examples that spring to mind.   I just think it's
important to think of it categorically rather than just -e.
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Re: chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-19 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 18 21:27, Andy Koppe wrote:
 Corinna Vinschen:
  Accepting `-e command' additionally would make the usage comaptible to
  xterm/rxvt and mintty could be used easier as drop-in replacement...
 
 Can't say I'm keen on doing that, because it looks  like the start of
 a slippery slope down xterm's intimidating manpage.
 Konsole and gnome-terminal do support it though, without implementing
 any other xterm options, so I guess mintty better does as well: issue
 69.

You really don't have to support every ugly xterm option.  I just think
the -e option is along the lines of the -c option for shells.  Every
Unix shell has a -c option and it always means the same, even for csh
and, FWIW, cmd.exe.  Well, the latter with kinks.


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chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-18 Thread Frank Fesevur
Hi,

chere (v1.1) doesn't work anymore for me after the recent upgrade of
MinTTY to 0.3.7.

I tried to reinstall chere with the command below, but that didn't help.

  chere -i -s bash -t mintty

When I switch back to rxvt, chere does work again.

  chere -i -s bash -t rxvt

Regards,
Frank

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Re: chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-18 Thread David Rothenberger

On 3/18/2009 3:17 AM, Frank Fesevur wrote:

chere (v1.1) doesn't work anymore for me after the recent upgrade of
MinTTY to 0.3.7.


chere is generated a command line using the -e switch prior to the 
command to execute. MinTTY doesn't accept that switch.


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Re: chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-18 Thread Andy Koppe
David Rothenberger:
 chere (v1.1) doesn't work anymore for me after the recent upgrade of
 MinTTY to 0.3.7.

 chere is generated a command line using the -e switch prior to the command
 to execute. MinTTY doesn't accept that switch.

Yep. Here's what it does accept:

Usage: mintty [OPTION]... [ - | COMMAND [ARG]... ]

If no command is given, the user's default shell is invoked as a non-login
shell. If the command is a single minus sign, the default shell is invoked
as a login shell. Otherwise the command is invoked with the given arguments.

Options:
  -c, --config=FILE Use specified config file (default: ~/.minttyrc)
  -p, --pos=X,Y Open window at specified position
  -s, --size=COLS,ROWS  Set screen size in characters
  -t, --title=TITLE Set window title (default: the invoked command)
  -v, --version Print version information and exit
  -h, --helpDisplay this help message and exit

Andy

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Re: chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-18 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 18 17:21, Andy Koppe wrote:
 David Rothenberger:
  chere is generated a command line using the -e switch prior to the command
  to execute. MinTTY doesn't accept that switch.
 
 Yep. Here's what it does accept:
 
 Usage: mintty [OPTION]... [ - | COMMAND [ARG]... ]
 
 If no command is given, the user's default shell is invoked as a non-login
 shell. If the command is a single minus sign, the default shell is invoked
 as a login shell. Otherwise the command is invoked with the given arguments.
 
 Options:
   -c, --config=FILE Use specified config file (default: ~/.minttyrc)
   -p, --pos=X,Y Open window at specified position
   -s, --size=COLS,ROWS  Set screen size in characters
   -t, --title=TITLE Set window title (default: the invoked command)
   -v, --version Print version information and exit
   -h, --helpDisplay this help message and exit

Accepting `-e command' additionally would make the usage comaptible to
xterm/rxvt and mintty could be used easier as drop-in replacement...


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Re: chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-18 Thread Andy Koppe
Corinna Vinschen:
 Accepting `-e command' additionally would make the usage comaptible to
 xterm/rxvt and mintty could be used easier as drop-in replacement...

Can't say I'm keen on doing that, because it looks  like the start of
a slippery slope down xterm's intimidating manpage.
Konsole and gnome-terminal do support it though, without implementing
any other xterm options, so I guess mintty better does as well: issue
69.

Andy

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Re: chere doesn't work anymore with MinTTY

2009-03-18 Thread Matt Wozniski
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Andy Koppe andy.ko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Corinna Vinschen:
 Accepting `-e command' additionally would make the usage comaptible to
 xterm/rxvt and mintty could be used easier as drop-in replacement...

 Can't say I'm keen on doing that, because it looks  like the start of
 a slippery slope down xterm's intimidating manpage.
 Konsole and gnome-terminal do support it though, without implementing
 any other xterm options, so I guess mintty better does as well: issue
 69.

I'd say that emulating the options in the common subset of rxvt's
options and xterm's is probably a good idea - at least for options
that affect the behavior (like -e) instead of just the appearance
(like -rv).

~Matt

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