Re: permissions/owners seen on cygwin-client vs. server

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 12:11:56PM -0400, Igor Peshansky wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, Linda Walsh wrote:
>>As for including cygcheck, I don't have a problem doing that when
>>necessary, but I prefer to check that it's not some "braino", or that
>>it is a "real" problem before attaching a full cygdump.
>
>How will we know if it's a real problem unless you include the cygcheck
>output?

Right.  There is no harm in including it and, since it is more than
likely that we'd need it, including it eliminates one information-free
cycle of email.

cgf

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Re: permissions/owners seen on cygwin-client vs. server

[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, Linda Walsh wrote:


Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> Larry is right, of course, but I make a wild guess, nevertheless:
>
>   CYGWIN=nosmbntsec
---
Assuming you mean having that string in the CYGWIN env var,
unfortunately, this is not the case.


See  -- nosmbntsec
is the default.  You need to turn it on to get ntsec functionality on
remote drives.


As for including cygcheck, I don't have a problem doing that
when necessary, but I prefer to check that it's not some "braino", or
that it is a "real" problem before attaching a full cygdump.


How will we know if it's a real problem unless you include the cygcheck
output?
Igor
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Re: permissions/owners seen on cygwin-client vs. server

[Linda Walsh]

Don't know if it is helpful, but from another linux box, mounted with
cifs, I see pretty similar:

drwsrwsrwt   2 linusers0 Nov 24  2006 NT_Perflogs/
drwxr-s---   2 root   private  0 Jul 26  2006 archive/
drwsr-s---   4 backup backup   0 May 14 13:53 backup/
drwxr-xr-x   4 lindevel0 Jan  6  2007 bench/
drwxr-sr-x   3 lindevel0 Jan 27  2007 cygwin/
drwxr-x--x   4998 guest0 May  6  2003 guest/
drwxr-x--- 115 linlingrp   0 Aug 17 14:15 lin/
l?   ? ?  ??? linux
drwxr-x---   5  6 nogroup  0 May  6  2003 mailtest/
drwxr-xr-x   6 root   root 0 Jul 31 19:21 packages/
l?   ? ?  ??? projects
drwxr-s---   4 root   samba0 Jul 28  2005 samba/
l?   ? ?  ??? tools
drwsrws--x   4 wwwrun wwwrun   0 Jul 20  2006 www/
---

This begins to make me think it's not supposed to be this way under
cygwin (?)...

Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
> other bootstrap information.
---
Bootstrap -- none that I know of.

>  What, exactly, is this server?
---
Samba 3.0.26 on linux
> How are you connecting to it from the client?
---
? the network?  'ls //server/home' ?  Not sure what
you mean.
> What protocols are involved?
---
??  TCP/IP?  CIFS/SMBFS?
> How have you configured them?  Server is Domain Master, though
logins to client are local, not domain.
---
Not sure what/which config information you are wanting, but
mostly static maps, shared DNS server.  Not sure what you're wanting
exactly...don't make me guess neither! :-)

>  Don't make us guess.

:^)
Linda

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Re: permissions/owners seen on cygwin-client vs. server

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Aug 16 20:06, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
> Linda Walsh wrote:
> >I get two different views of my server's "/home" directory
> >depending on if I'm on the server or under cygwin on a client.
> >
> >On the server, I see things like:
> >drwsrwsrwt   2 lin  users   14 Nov 24  2006 NT_Perflogs/
> >drwxr-s---   2 root private 24 Jul 26  2006 archive/
> >drwsr-s---   4 backup   backup  94 May 14 13:53 backup/
> >[...]
> >
> >but locally, I see:
> >drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Nov 24  2006 NT_Perflogs/
> >drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jul 26  2006 archive/
> >drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 May 14 13:53 backup/
> [...]
> >
> >So why such a difference?
> 
> Quite a bit, I'm afraid.  Linda, you've been around long enough that
> we shouldn't have to ask for basic information like cygcheck output
> and other bootstrap information.  What, exactly, is this server?
> How are you connecting to it from the client?  What protocols are
> involved?  How have you configured them?  All this information
> at least is necessary for someone here to start providing any useful
> feedback.  Without it, all we can do is guess.  Don't make us guess.
> It's not very accurate. ;-)

Larry is right, of course, but I make a wild guess, nevertheless:

  CYGWIN=nosmbntsec

See the user guide.


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Re: permissions/owners seen on cygwin-client vs. server

[Larry Hall (Cygwin)]

Linda Walsh wrote:

I get two different views of my server's "/home" directory
depending on if I'm on the server or under cygwin on a client.

On the server, I see things like:
drwsrwsrwt   2 lin  users   14 Nov 24  2006 NT_Perflogs/
drwxr-s---   2 root private 24 Jul 26  2006 archive/
drwsr-s---   4 backup   backup  94 May 14 13:53 backup/
drwxr-xr-x   4 lin  devel  103 Jan  6  2007 bench/
drwxr-sr-x   3 lin  devel   16 Jan 27  2007 cygwin/
drwxr-x--x   4 guestguest  176 May  6  2003 guest/
drwxr-x--- 115 lin  lingrp   12288 Aug 16 16:08 lin/
drwxr-s--x  33 lin  devel 4096 May 19 03:50 linux/
drwxr-x---   5 mailtest nogroup131 May  6  2003 mailtest/
drwxr-xr-x   6 root root   188 Jul 31 19:21 packages/
drwxr-s---   4 root samba   36 Jul 28  2005 samba/
drwxr-s--x  20 lin  wheel 4096 Jun  9 17:09 tools/
drwsrws--x   4 wwwrun   wwwrun  29 Jul 20  2006 www/

but locally, I see:
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Nov 24  2006 NT_Perflogs/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jul 26  2006 archive/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 May 14 13:53 backup/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jan  6  2007 bench/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jan 27  2007 cygwin/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 May  6  2003 guest/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Aug 16 16:08 lin/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 May 19 03:50 linux/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 May  6  2003 mailtest/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jul 31 19:21 packages/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Aug 19  2006 projects/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jul 28  2005 samba/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Feb 11  2006 src/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jun  9 17:09 tools/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jul 20  2006 www/

So why such a difference?  Shouldn't I see something other than my own
user & group name?
The permissions seems to function as seen from top(server) view:
//server/home> ll backup
ls: reading directory backup: Permission denied
total 0
//server/home> ll guest
ls: reading directory guest: Permission denied
total 0

I "guess" the permissions, owners and groups I see on files on
when on my client really aren't too reliable or am I missing
something...?



Quite a bit, I'm afraid.  Linda, you've been around long enough that
we shouldn't have to ask for basic information like cygcheck output
and other bootstrap information.  What, exactly, is this server?
How are you connecting to it from the client?  What protocols are
involved?  How have you configured them?  All this information
at least is necessary for someone here to start providing any useful
feedback.  Without it, all we can do is guess.  Don't make us guess.
It's not very accurate. ;-)


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A: Yes.
> Q: Are you sure?
>> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?

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permissions/owners seen on cygwin-client vs. server

[Linda Walsh]

I get two different views of my server's "/home" directory
depending on if I'm on the server or under cygwin on a client.

On the server, I see things like:
drwsrwsrwt   2 lin  users   14 Nov 24  2006 NT_Perflogs/
drwxr-s---   2 root private 24 Jul 26  2006 archive/
drwsr-s---   4 backup   backup  94 May 14 13:53 backup/
drwxr-xr-x   4 lin  devel  103 Jan  6  2007 bench/
drwxr-sr-x   3 lin  devel   16 Jan 27  2007 cygwin/
drwxr-x--x   4 guestguest  176 May  6  2003 guest/
drwxr-x--- 115 lin  lingrp   12288 Aug 16 16:08 lin/
drwxr-s--x  33 lin  devel 4096 May 19 03:50 linux/
drwxr-x---   5 mailtest nogroup131 May  6  2003 mailtest/
drwxr-xr-x   6 root root   188 Jul 31 19:21 packages/
drwxr-s---   4 root samba   36 Jul 28  2005 samba/
drwxr-s--x  20 lin  wheel 4096 Jun  9 17:09 tools/
drwsrws--x   4 wwwrun   wwwrun  29 Jul 20  2006 www/

but locally, I see:
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Nov 24  2006 NT_Perflogs/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jul 26  2006 archive/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 May 14 13:53 backup/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jan  6  2007 bench/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jan 27  2007 cygwin/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 May  6  2003 guest/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Aug 16 16:08 lin/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 May 19 03:50 linux/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 May  6  2003 mailtest/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jul 31 19:21 packages/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Aug 19  2006 projects/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jul 28  2005 samba/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Feb 11  2006 src/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jun  9 17:09 tools/
drwxr-x--- 1 lin Administrators 0 Jul 20  2006 www/

So why such a difference?  Shouldn't I see something other than my own
user & group name?
The permissions seems to function as seen from top(server) view:
//server/home> ll backup
ls: reading directory backup: Permission denied
total 0
//server/home> ll guest
ls: reading directory guest: Permission denied
total 0

I "guess" the permissions, owners and groups I see on files on
when on my client really aren't too reliable or am I missing
something...?

Thanks,
linda




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