Re: mysql command line client hangs in cygwin xterm
On Wednesday 28 April 2004 17:40, Richard Piper wrote: On looking into this, it seems that mysql including its client is compiled with cygwin. It is an old version, and this may explain the problem. This is the reason I refuse to use MySQL on Windows - sooner or later the multiple cygwin.dll problem that their distribution creates if the user also installs Cygwin is going to start biting people. If possible I would suggest looking into Firebird (the database) instead. Cheers, Rasjid.
Re: Possible bug trying to run Eclipse GTK?
On Saturday 03 April 2004 01:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do think that the FAQ item needs to be clarified to include the information about the -Y parameter. Could I suggest that the FAQ be changed to something along the lines of | Starting with OpenSSH 3.8 you will need the switch ForwardX11Trusted yes | in the client configuration to allow remote clients full access to the | xserver, or use -Y as the paramater instead of -X. Cheers, Rasjid -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net
Re: XDMCP Problems - Possible fix, please try
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 13:31, Andrew DeFaria wrote: Harold L Hunt II wrote: Andrew DeFaria wrote: ... Well you see that's sorta the problem. In my distro (SuSE 8.2) it's at /opt/kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc but the problem is that it already says true! In mine is says: I'm running SuSE 8.2 too, and have just found out the following: a) there are several kdmrc files (try 'locate kdmrc') b) the one you want to edit is actually /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc not the one under /opt c) there is also a variable in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanger that may or may not be significant (DISPLAYMANAGER_REMOTE_ACCESS=no) So: 1) Enable xdmcp in the kdmrc under /etc/... 2) Restart kdm with # /etc/init.d/xdm restart (yes, it really is xdm here) 3) Test service listening with: # netstat -u -a -n -p | grep 177 Output should be: udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:177 0.0.0.0:*pid/kdm 4) If the above looks good, then test with $ X -query localhost :1 5) If that works, then test from remote machine. 6) If the local (step 4) connect works, but not the remote connection, try editing the /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager file, and see if that helps. Let us know if this modification is required. Note to Harold et al: Could we add /etc/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc for SuSE 8.2 to the known config files in FAQ 6.2? (Perhaps a warning about the 'red herrings' in other locations too.) Adding some info on how to test that [x|k|g]dm is working (my steps 3 and 4) to the FAQ may also be useful. Note that the 'netstat' test is one that can be done remotely via ssh, and is very quick, whereas the 'X -query localhost :1' is probably best done when physical access to the machine is available. I hope all this helps. Cheers, Rasjid. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +11 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net
Re: Portable Cygwin works, but XWin fails
On Friday 12 December 2003 08:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solution: Mount /tmp to the windows tempdir mount -bu $(cygpath -m $TEMP) /tmp mount -bu $WINDIR/Temp /tmp Thank you. This worked just fine. I now possess a superb portable CD with stats, emacs, vim, Perl, LaTeX, ..., which I can use in any Windows machine with a CD drive. CD still only 640/700 full. ... Fergus Are you thinking of putting up a mini-howto somewhere? -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net
Re: Error: procedure entry point in cygwin1.dll
On Saturday 06 December 2003 11:02, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: Have you tried using the cygwin find utility instead? That has to be one of the daftest things I've ever said on a public mailling list, since cygwin is not working. I would suggest the following instead: In a cmd shell - C:\dir /s filelist.txt C:\start wordpad filelist.txt Do an edit/find for 'cygwin1.dll'. See if you have more than one. (In case the Windows find file missed it for some reason.) Cheers, Rasjid. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net
Re: Error: procedure entry point in cygwin1.dll
On Saturday 06 December 2003 01:58, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:37:19AM +0100, Martin Schmid wrote: I do trust the wisdom of the archives, that's why I checked my whole hard disk for any other copy of cygwin1.dll, and why I rebooted three times before posting the message. That would have been an interesting thing to mention in your first problem report. There definitely must be another reason for the problem. Any suggestion? There are no other reasons for the problem. I am probably displaying my complete ignorance of dll's here, but is it possible for this problem to occur even if the second 'cygwin1.dll' as been named something different? Also, Martin, I assume that you used the Windows Find Files search funciton. Have you tried using the cygwin find utility instead? I have on occasions found the Windows find files search function to skip whole directories for no apparent reason. Cheers, Rasjid. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net
Re: Xcdroast
Camron W. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can xcdroast be compiled and used on cygwin? If so, how do you get around the root configuration issue? Xcdroast is simply a front-end for cdrecord and various other utilities. As such, it is meaningless to compile it for Cygwin/XFree86 unless the underlying utiilities work under cygwin. I would suggest going to the CDRecord homepage (http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html). Look for cdrtools and read the README.win32 which gives instructions on how to compile cdrtools under cygwin. Questions related to getting cdrecord etc to compile etc could be directed to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list (since it is not a X application), but make sure you have done your homework first. If you can get cdrecord working, then you could look at trying to get xcdroast working under Cygwin. xcdroast is built with the GTK. Last I heard compiling GTK apps under Cygwin was not completely trivial. http://cygnome.sourceforge.net/ may be a good starting point. Others may suggest other sites. I'm not really up on this. Anyway, good luck. :-) Rasjid. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia UTC + 10 http://www.openminddev.net
Re: Can I take full screen control under w95, of a remote vmware virtual machine running under linux?
On Monday 11 August 2003 20:53, Alexander Gottwald wrote: On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know if Cygwin/XFree86 will allow me to take full screen control of the virtual machine ?. It does not work since it's not a local display. (Tested with 3.2.0 vmware) I have no idea if this will work, but you could try some of the utilities that convert an *existing* local X session to RFB (the VNC protocol). VMware then may (or may not) work in full screen mode, but at least there is a chance since VMWare has a real normal local X session to work with. Known utilities that do this include: krfb - http://www.tjansen.de/krfb/ x11vnc (part of LibVNCServer - http://libvncserver.sourceforge.net/) x0rfb (or x0rfbserver) - Get rpm's/deb's for this. The page for the original x0rfbserver files seems to have gone missing. It seems that was generally in rfb-x.x.x.rpm. Not sure about deb's. Cheers, Rasjid. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia UTC + 10 http://www.openminddev.net
Re: Updated on sourceware: XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-27
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:14 am, Harold L Hunt II wrote: The XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-27 package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution. Changes: 1) Native GDI engine is finished! 100 fold performance improvement! (Harold Hunt, Mickey Mouse) 2) Native Windows version of Cygwin/XFree86 released --- no need for Cygwin. (Harold Hunt, Foo Bar) 3) Windows and X clipboard integration now works flawlessly. (Harold Hunt, Frodo Baggins) :) -- Harold Hunt Do Mickey, Foo and Frodo have PayPal accounts? I'd like to make a donation. Rasjid.
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 79
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 06:39 pm, Pille Geert (bizvdm) wrote: Hallo Harold, You're sure that's a firewall you are behind? I, eg., can't even get setup.exe, because it is .exe. As I said, I am very lucky the .bz2 passes unnoticed (as long as 2Mb). You wouldn't care to wrap setup.exe into a .bz2 and mail it to me? I could still give it a try. Never mind, you'll still be asleep when I'm having my lunch at home, I'll get it there. Nice dreams, Gerard Gerard, when most people refer to a firewall, they are thinking of a firewall that keeps unwanted access from outside getting in. This is often (generally?) done with Network Address Translation. Your situation is one of the most extreme 'firewall' setups I have heard of. Blocking .exe's from emails is one thing (and quite sensible in the Windows world if you are forced to run Outlook which seems to do the most it can to encourage viruses to spread) but blocking the ability to download almost anything is (in my experience) unusual. How do you update Windows or get the latest Internet Explorer update? Anyway, have you tried getting Cygwin via Rsync? It is possible that your firewall does not block rsync traffic. (Or does it block almost everything?) There is a bit of a catch 22 here, as you need Cygwin (or Linux / Unix) to run rsync. I will forward the setup.exe (bzip2ed) to you directly. If you still find you can't get things via setup (eg .tar.gz is blocked) then I can forward you enough to get rsync working and you can try that. Cheers, Rasjid.
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 79
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:09 pm, Pille Geert (bizvdm) wrote: Hallo Rasjid, Update Windows? Do you mean that µicro$oft has released something new since NT 4.0 ;-) We can't access porn-sites, snif, or download executables or anything bigger than 2Mb. We couldn't update the PC's since we have no administator's rights. I could easily install Linux if I wanted to, but this is not my PC, it's my customer's. But thanks for the setup.exe, I've started it, now let's see if it gets through. Pure http might work, but if there is any ftp involved, I may as well forget it. Just select a http mirror, and setup will all be http. If that fails, if you have a copy of Knoppix about, then you can boot into Linux without touching the hard-drive, and then try using Rsync to get Cygwin-XFree. Rasjid.
Re: Windows based app.server
Chris Howells wrote: With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear on the Win32 machine. However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server? For example, imagine a network running almost entirely Linux, but needing to run a few legacy Windows applications. What I would like is for the user (sitting in front of Linux box with X) to be able to click on an icon for a Windows application, causing the application to start running on a Windows (NT) based application server. The program would entirely run on the Windows server, but the screen output would be sent over the network so it could be controlled by the user sitting on their Linux/X machine. I'm just wondering if this is possible? Many thanks, Chris Howells This was discussed quite a bit in September last year. Search the archives for XOpenWin. The project is currently stalled, as the required code from Wine was too tied to Linux. Existing options are VNC (one source being http://www.realvnc.com) and the rdesktop client for Linux (http://www.rdesktop.org/). Cheers, Rasjid.
Re: I tried to login
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 4:10 pm, arasu wrote: I tried to login to remote unix machine using the following command. $ ssh -X -l username remote_hostname_or_ip_address by giving my username and host name. I have successfully installed Cygwin/XFree. All it says is command not found. I am not sure whether the path name was to be given in this case. In this situation, any further comments? Thanks. ssh is not installed by default. Try rerunning setup, and then select and install openssh. Rasjid. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +11 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net
Re: XFree and File Systems
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:28 am, Alexander Gottwald wrote: Martín De Marchi wrote: Hi! I'm developing a linux application, but the majority of the pc's in my organization have installed windows system, so Im going to install cigwin's xfree in the machines and use the linux application remotely. I need that the user (windows system) use the remote linux application (via xfree) and see the local windows file system (not the linux file system) for load and save files, to use the local printer. Is there any way for configure X and make this? No. Using the remote application is like walking to the linux pc and working there. You don't have access to the windows host. The only way to exchange files is to use a network filesystem (SMB or AFS) and access this from linux and windows. Same for the printer. The best and easiest way is to have a central server (eg NT, 2000, XP or for an open-source GPL solution, Mitel SME/E-Smith) with each user with a directory on the server \\centralserver\username. Then have something along the lines of: mkdir -p $HOME/windows smbmount //centralserver/$USER $HOME/windows called when they either log onto the linux box (via XDMCP) or run the program (via ssh for example). Exact implementation will depend on whether you are using XDMCP or ssh and various other factors. If you don't have a central windows (like) server, then I would recommend looking at the GPL version of Mitel SME (http://www.e-smith.org) - it is essentially a free NT server replacement without any user-license restrictions. If you *really* want the user to be looking at their local filesystem, and you are using ssh, then something along the lines of: WINDOWS_IP=`echo $SSH_CLIENT | cut -d' ' -f 1` mkdir -p $HOME/windows WINHOST=`nmblookup -A $WINDOWS_IP | head -n 2 | tail -n 1 | tr -s [:blank:] ' ' | cut -d ' ' -f 2` smbmount //$WINHOST/c$ $HOME/windows in either the logon script of your linux box, or in the start-up script of your program may do the trick. (The above assumes the same usernames on the Windows and Linux box.) If using XDMCP, then replace the first line with: WINDOWS_IP=`echo $DISPLAY | cut -d= -f 2 | cut -d: -f 1` In all the above, there are various issues with passwords and security that would need to be resolved before using in a production situation. See the manpages. You may also want to change //$WINHOST/c$ to //$WINHOST/mydocs or whatever. Cheers, Rasjid. -- Rasjid Wilcox Canberra, Australia (UTC +10 hrs) http://www.openminddev.net
Re: have cygwin/XFree86 running ... but need help connecting remotely
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 1:59 am, Kenn Murrah wrote: Greetings ... Okay, I know I should be able to understand this from the documentation, but I don't ... I've installed CygwinXFree86 on my windows box ... I can double-click the shortcut on the desktop to run the program, and I can run startxwin.sh, startx, etc. ... but how do i connect to a remote box? I want to connect to a linux box on my network, and I'm puzzled about how to make that happen. Can anyone provide this elementary help to me? Depends on what type of connection you want? Did you just want to ssh into the box, or did you want to set up XDMCP. If you just want to ssh, then type $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to ssh and forward the X session over ssh, then $ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want XDMCP, then I would suggest reading the Linux XDMCP howto. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ Also see the Cygwin-XFree86 FAQ etc. http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ Cheers, Rasjid.
Re: Preventing X server resets
On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 2:41 am, Oliver, Peter wrote: I'm using XDMCP for my session, from where I run X applications on various different servers. If the machine I logged onto with XDMCP is rebooted, or suffers network difficulties, the X server resets and I loose my whole session. I would prefer the X server and it's remaining clients to continue running, so that I can just start a window manager on a different box and carry on working. Is there some way to prevent this reset from happening? I gave the -noreset option a try but it made no difference. As other posts have indicated, you can't solve this with XDMCP. The only (open source) solution that I'm aware of is to use VNC. There are several different VNC versions out there. http://www.realvnc.com is the new version by the original developers. (There is also Tridia VNC, Tight VNC, esVNC and probably others.) This adds an extra layer between the user and the applications. In essence VNC runs a virtual X-Server on the machine running the applications. (Actually, it could be some other machine, but lets keep this simple.) To illustrate, suppose you have a machine 'Server', and a machine 'Desktop'. The user is sitting in front of 'Desktop', and the applications live on 'Server'. With XDMCP: Process Machine Application AServer | | X Protocol | X-ServerDesktop With VNC: ProcessMachine Application A Server | | X Protocol | VNC Server Server | | VNC Protocol | VNC Client Desktop | | X Protocol | X-Server Desktop If the 'Desktop' is running Windows, you don't need the last step, since there is a native Windows VNC Client. The advantage with VNC is you can kill the VNC client and not lose you X-Session. You can for example, log in at work (using VNC), leave stuff running but kill the VNC client, go home, and re-connect with a new VNC client at home, and still be running the original session you left going at work. The disadvantage (over a LAN) is the 'smoothness' of the display, although I believe the new versions are pretty good. You also can't use XDMCP, so no nice login screen. But for keeping an X-Session going even when your desktop crashes, it is just what the doctor ordered. (VNC is also useful for low bandwidth connections.) Anyway, since there is a Win32 VNC Client (and server), this is not somewhat offtop for this list. OTOH, I wonder what the performance of the *nix vnc client would be under XFree-Cygwin? Might have a look sometime. Cheers, Rasjid.
Re: Newbie question -
On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 9:02 am, Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: Is there a way to invoke XDMCP AFTER the fact? Once I have started a local window manager, I'd like to do an XDMCP query, but running XWin again creates a second instance of X that is independent of my current window session. I tried running XDM ?!? And it replies only root wants to run xdm... But there is no user called root on my system... Thanks. You could try $ Xnest :1 -query host This will give you an XDMCP session in a window inside your current XSession. Rasjid.
Re: Newbie question -
On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:45 am, Jean-Claude Gervais wrote: What I do these days is start XWin -rootless -query host I have the host set up so that I log in using gnome, and I have set the remote Gnome to NOT set a background. That way, all I have is the Gnome taskbar, which I dock on the top of my monitor while the Windows taskbar is docked at the bottom of the monitor. That way, it really is quite like being logged onto both computers simultaneously. The only thing is, I haven't figured out how to run local X applications at the same time. I'd like WindowMaker's desktop launcher come up on the display also. I could probably run a bash shell as a Windows console mode app and from it start some X applications, but this seems inelegant. Based on the above, I'm not sure that Xnest will do what you want after all. Instead, I've had success using your original: $ start XWin -rootless -query host Then in your XDMCP session, run $ xhost +localhost to allow local X apps to connect to the server. (I'm sure you could get fancy and do some proper Xauthority stuff here.) I then created a script called 'startxapp.bat': Essentially just the first part of 'startxwin.bat' which sets up the path, and then: run %1 Create a shortcut to this, passing the name of the local X app you wish to run as a paramater. It all works very nicely. Rasjid.
Re: Own XWin start batch file
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 9:16 pm, Mario Ohnewald wrote: Why? What does ac do? (Sorry, man XWin and XWin --help couldnt help me) From the linux 'man Xserver' page: -ac disables host-based access control mechanisms. Enables access by any host, and permits any host to modify the access control list. Use with extreme caution. This option exists primarily for running test suites remotely. --- Rasjid.
Re: Unsubscribe from mailing list
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 9:33 pm, Suresh Rajpurohit wrote: Hi How to unsubscribe from this mailing list.. From http://cygwin.com/lists.html You can subscribe to or unsubscribe from any of the above lists by sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] respectively. -- So try mailing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only problem might be if you are subscribed under a different address to the one you currently use. In which case look at the headers of the email. All mail clients should have this ability somewhere. Rasjid.
Re: XWin.exe crashes
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 8:39 pm, Lisi wrote: At 09:46 PM 11/3/02 +0100, Sven Köhler wrote: you can use setup.exe to change back from textmode to binmode, but the problem is, that most of the programs won't be abled to read the text-files they've writte in textmode. How would I do this with setup? Which option is this, and do I have to reinstall everything (i.e. Cygwin, XFree86, individual packages, etc)? Just go through the normal install questions (probably best to choose your local cache as the Download Source), and choose 'Default Text File Type' = 'Unix'. At 'Select Packages' make sure you don't remove or add any packages. Setup will then proceed to install zero packages, but change the default mount mode for you. Christopher Faylor always suggests linking with binmode.o - and i would recomm that too, for the KDE-cygwin project. i don't know, why they don't do it - perhaps because binmode.o is too unknown yet. but to request, that the user runs cygwin in binmode is not always possible, because migrating back from text- to binmode takes much time (you have to convert every text-file) Once it's been switched back to binmode, would files written after that be in binmode as well? Yes. So files written with vi under cygwin will not look so good in notepad. Or would I continue to have a conflict? As Sven says, you will now possibly have the problem that files created while in text mode may not be able to be read correctly. Rasjid.
Re: XFree86 install fails
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:22 pm, Chris plonski wrote: Does cygwin use the windows registry to save previous configurations? Yes. See the Cygwin FAQ 'How do I uninstall all of Cygwin' (http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_2.html#SEC19) - there are entires in the registry tree `Software\Cygnus Solutions' under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and/or HKEY_CURRENT_USER. Rasjid.
Re: Cygwin Remote: Want to implement a Citrix Metaframe alternative
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 8:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have handled the Problem with ssh-keygen -t dsa to bake up an Key-pair and distribute it to the X-Server and Cygwin Client. Do these keys have passphrases? If yes, then how is it different to asking for a password. If no, then how have you made the system secure? I am interested in the development of this idea, but would be very concerned about the use of passphrase-less keys. Rasjid.
Re: Screen size question
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 1:39 am, Christopher Faylor wrote: Redirecting to the correct mailing list. On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 11:26:20PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi All People Can I issue following command to regulate the screen size at starting cygwin. # Xwin -query 192.168.0.XXX -screen aa x bb aa = width of screen in inches bb = height of screen in inches so that Linux would not cover Window screen completely. If NO, kindly advise how to make it. Thanks in advance. Use pixels, not inches. If you windows desktop is 1024x768, you could try for example $ XWin -query 192.168.0.XXX -screen 0 800 640 NOTE: Do NOT use 'inches', and do not use 'x' between width and height. See 'man XWin' for more info, or the users guide - http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/configure-cygwin-xfree-options.html Rasjid.
Re: RH 7.3
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:16 pm, Benjamin Simmons wrote: I am getting an error that makes me assume that I have some kind of X permission wrong. I edited the following files: /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Is there something else I must do? If I ssh to the remote machine: ssh -X -l username ipaddress The current message I am getting is: PAM authentication has failed cannot start the X server. Perhaps you do not have console ownership. . . . . . I think you are confusing two completely different ways of running X over a network. You can a) use xdm/gdm/kdm b) use ssh -X a) xdm/gdm/kdm is a little work to set up on the server side, but it makes client side configuration trivial. Once set up correctly, XWin.exe -query server.ip is basically all each host needs to do. Its main downside is that it is inherently insecure, as all communcation between the workstation and the server is unencrypted, including any passwords typed into dialog boxes. However, I can send details on the full xdm/gdm/kdm thing if you like. b) ssh -X works best if you already have a fully running X setup on your local machine, and just want to run specific programs on the server. However, with a little bit of work it may be possible to get a scripted secure Xsession running, which starts up KDE or GNOME on the server rather than locally. My attempts to do this simply have only partly worked. As far as I can tell, both 'startkde' and 'gnome-session' expect to be run locally (at least on RH7.3), and have some trouble with the SSH connection, although they mostly work. The best option seems to be to comment out the 'twm' line in the Cygwin-XFree startxwin.sh/bat and change the '/bin/bash' in the xterm line to '/usr/bin/sh -X user@server' and then run either gnome or kde from the resulting xterm. Rasjid.
Re: X client wrapper for Win apps?
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 5:58 am, Alexander Gottwald wrote: snip VNC is not the better solution. It grab parts of the picture _after_ they were drawn. X11 sends the drawing commands across network. There was always a VNC client for windows which allowed access to a unix session. But as this is far from being fast someone started building a xserver for windows. VNC requires much higher bandwidth than X11 and will fail on fast changes of the display content. As a VNC user who runs Linux and home to control a Windows NT machine at work, and finds the performance less than satisfactory even with ADSL both ends, I would be very interested in the 'X client wrapper for Win apps' idea. I suspect the performance would be subtantially better (assuming decent optimisation and caching). As far as I can tell, Radmin (http://www.radmin.com) is a commercial product that uses the GDI hook idea, and if you believe its marketing, it outperforms all other (windows) remote control software by a significant margin. Unfortunately, it is only Windows-Windows. Anyway, I think that something that allows Windows apps to be easily displayed on Xservers (other than VNC) would be a really good thing. Particularly if just the application could be displayed as opposed to the entire desktop. It opens up all sorts of possibilities, in the same way that a rootless mode does. I would like to see this happen and would be happy to test! :-) Rasjid.
Re: New Project (was RE: X client wrapper for Win apps?)
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:46 pm, Stuart Adamson wrote: gdi2X win2X xgdi I like win2x. (or maybe win4x) I'm happy to register the project and set it up... I'd say wait a few hours for people in the states to wake up and read the mass of email and then unless anyone comes up with better names, go and do it. For what it is worth, I like win2x, although win4x is a bit more unique, with google giving 'win2x' 295 matches, but only 10 for 'win4x'. On reflection, win2x also describes a bit more what it actually does. I think the gdi names are a bit obscure for the less technical. As mentioned previously, I'll help test, as I doubt I can help with the code. [Not really looking like a job for Python. :-) ] Rasjid.
Re: displaying windows outside the main window
On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 9:48 pm, Rahul Amaram-RollNo.286 wrote: Hi, Is it possible to display the clients' windows like xterm, rxvt, ymeesenger, etc. outside the main single window??? Any help would be appreciated. Rahul. See http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/todo.html. It is at the top of the list, but Cygwin-XFree is developed in peoples spare time. Harold did offer to develop needed features in return for some renumeration. http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-07/msg00090.html I didn't respond to Harold's post at the time, as unfortunately I don't hold the purse strings where I work, but philosophically I am strongly in favour of people paying money to get features they want developed in Open-Source software. I have helped my workplace become a paying customer to two open-source products, Mitel's SME server and Astaro's Security Linux. If Harold had a pay pal account, I would happily contribute US$10, particularly if a number of other people did so too. Perhaps setting up some kind of pledge system. Something along the lines of: Task 1: Rootless mode - |Name | Amount Pledged | Contact| Rec'd | - | Joe Blogs | $20 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Yes | | Mary Smith| $15 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | etc Task 2: .. Once the task is complete, someone follows up each pledge. I would suggest that that someone not be the developer(s). An automated system would be better. Anyone know of an existing system that could be coerced to do the task? Would RedHat be happy to host such a pledging system on their servers? I would be happy to host it on my sever. Note that it is only on an ADSL connection with a 64kbs uplink speed. However, it is up 24/7 and does have a fixed IP. The contact email address would need to be obscured from the spammers, or perhaps kept off public pages altogether. What do people think? Could it work? Is it already being done somewhere? I have just found some pages by Christopher Browne, called the Free Software (Gift) Exchange Registry (http://cbbrowne.com/info/fssp.html), but he just talks about a similar idea. There is no reference to someone actually putting his idea into practice. Christopher does raise the issue of gifts and tax, and his article is generally a good read. Rasjid.
Re: help: a bash script to launch x-win and then do someting in x-win
On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 9:53 pm, hongxun lee wrote: #!/bin/bash startx cd /cygdrive/c pwd For this particular script, x-win was launched but the commands followed never ran either in bash-window or x-win; Sorry but didn't find answers to my difficulty in those archives. Thanks You have not looked very carefully at the Cygwin-XFree website. See the users guide. http://xfree.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using.html#using-starting The answer to your question is probably to either use a modified startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh or even a modified startx, although the script as you have written it does not make any sense. Are you trying to run those commands in an xterm? Will the commands keep changing? Nope, I still have no idea what you are really trying to do. However, I can say that what you are currently trying to do will not work. PLEASE go and do some more reading. As far as I can tell, your problem has nothing to do with Cygwin-XFree, but is a generic question about XWindows. There are better places to ask such questions. Rasjid.
Re: X via SSH (was: New (Delphi) xlauncher)
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 9:22 pm, Nick THOMPSON wrote: What I could do with is a mode that allows an X session to be setup through an SSH tunnel. So I need an SSH client that DOESN'T give me a shell, but supports an X11 tunnel, prompts me for the SSH passwd and runs a single command (the remote ~/.xinitrc say, and pipes the output to a local file). Even better if I can select from a list of hosts at startup. Does this xlauncher support that? Currently, I'm using putty, but it asks for the passwd in a shell window which you have to keep open. Any other ideas? Nick. I think what you want is the -f option on ssh. from 'man ssh' (on Linux, but I'm pretty sure it is the same on Cygwin): -f Requests ssh to go to background just before command execution. This is useful if ssh is going to ask for passwords or passphrases, but the user wants it in the background. This implies -n. The recommended way to start X11 programs at a remote site is with something like ssh -f host xterm. -n Redirects stdin from /dev/null (actually, prevents reading from stdin). This must be used when ssh is run in the background. A common trick is to use this to run X11 programs on a remote machine. For example, ssh -n shadows.cs.hut.fi emacs will start an emacs on shadows.cs.hut.fi, and the X11 connection will be automatically forwarded over an encrypted channel. The ssh program will be put in the background. (This does not work if ssh needs to ask for a password or passphrase; see also the -f option.) Also, see ssh-agent, although I would not suggest storing a ssh private key on a Windows 9x/ME system, and only on NT with NTFS permissions set up correctly. Even with a good passphrase, a private key should still be hard to steal. For a very good article on ssh key management, see http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-keyc.html (part 1) http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-keyc2/ (part 2) http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-keyc3/ (part 3) Rasjid.
Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Server Test 65
On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 3:08 pm, Harold Hunt wrote: I just posted Test 65 to the server development page: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/ You can install the Test 65 package via setup.exe by selecting the 'test' package (and be sure to check the 'Bin' box): XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-12 I have given this a quick test on my DualHead Matrox G400. Screenshots are available at http://www.openminddev.net/files/cx-1.jpg http://www.openminddev.net/files/cx-2.jpg http://www.openminddev.net/files/cx-3.jpg http://www.openminddev.net/files/cx-4.jpg http://www.openminddev.net/files/cx-5.jpg Shot 1 is just the intial opening. Shot 2 is the first maximisation. Shot 3 is re-maximisation after minimising. Shot 4 is maximising on the second screen (which in my setup is actually on the left). Shot 5 is showing that when maximised on screen 2, you can still move the window around. *This is not supposed to happen.* It should be locked in place. Note: The 'locked in place' quality works okay on screen 1. Cheers, Rasjid.
Re: Problem with cygwin1.dll and xfree
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 5:26 am, Dr. Wayne Keen wrote: [Post on [EMAIL PROTECTED]] I know I have run into problems a couple of times with programs that have windows installers that somehow like to assume that you don't already have Cygwin on your machine. The first time I installed Octave, it replaced my Cygwin with some minimal installation it needed to support itself. Something not as severe happended when I ran an Windows installation program for Ruby. EventuallyI learned to just go ahead and build things myself within Cygwin. rave The main reason I stopped distributing the original version of my Minimal Cygwin-XFree86 for XDMCP only install was my gradual (and slightly belated) understanding of this problem. And it was only because of discussions on the cygwin-xfree mailing list that I discovered this problem at all. Personally, I think the requirement for there to be only a *single* cygwin1.dll needs to be *far* more strongly emphasised on the Cygwin website, in somewhere prominent (like on http://www.cygwin.com/index.html). As the porting of open-source software from Linux/Unix to Windows becomes more common, unless things change this problem is only going to get worse. The problem here is that many developers are going to want to distribute their program Windows ports via a Windows installer, not via Setup.exe. And they are going to want their program to install as transparently as possible, so they are going to provide their own copy of the cygwin1.dll on the assumption that the user probably wont already have one. This is generally true currently, but will become less true as time goes by. I know that the Windows port of MySQL relies on the cygwin1.dll. And in my wanderings I have seen several others (Ruby and Octave are mentioned above). It is no good if each program puts the cygwin1.dll in it own directory, since if two of the programs are running at the same time there may be problems. It is even worse if they all try and put it in system directory, since then who knows what version you will end up with. And regardless of what happens, if the user either has or later installs Cygwin via Setup.exe there will be problems. The only long term solution that I can think of is to make it possible (perhaps it already is) for the Windows installer to use an automated version of Setup.exe, that without any interaction from the user (unless absolutely necessary) will install or update (if required) the cygwin1.dll in a Setup.exe compatible way. That way, if I install program A which depends on the cygwin1.dll, and then install program B (which has an older version of cygwin1.dll) it just leaves the newer version there. If I then install program C which requires a newer version, the dll is then updated by the automated setup.exe. If I then install Cygwin via Setup.exe, it just notices that I already have the cygwin1.dll and only updates it if necessary. I think that basically what would be required would be to enable Setup.exe to be controlled by a config file (similar to a RedHat kickstart file), and have its GUI not displayed unless there was a problem and user interaction was required. The other thing required is education. Existing projects that use the cygwin1.dll need to be informed of the issue and encouraged (gently) to help do something about it. And the information about the conflicting dll problem needs to be much more 'in the face' of potential cygwin1.dll users. No doubt, ideally all cygwin based programs should be installed via Setup.exe, and then the problem goes away. Realistically, that is not going to happen. 'Ordinary' Windows users (as opposed to cygwin users) like Windows installers. And when programs that use the cygwin1.dll start crashing randomly due to multiple cygwin1.dll copies, Joe Windows User will simply see an open source program failing to work, and decide that he will stay with closed source programs after all. That is what concerns me the most. Anyway, that is my 2 cents on the issue. Perhaps this has already been discussed in depth before and/or is already implemented or in the process of being implemented, and if so my apologies if I'm wasting bandwidth. I'm not subscribed to the cygwin list, only cygwin-xfree. I'm CC'ing the cygwin list, since I think it is fundamentally a cygwin issue, not an Cygwin-XFree issue, although of course it effects anything that depends on cygwin. /rave So, one message that probably should leak out is to avoid Windows binaries that mention anything about Cygwin. :-) I would be inclined to check anything that was developed on Unix/Linux first and then ported to Windows, even if they fail to mention Cygwin, and even if it is closed source. But perhaps I'm just paranoid. ;-) Rasjid.
Re: Using only the X server of Cygwin
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 5:05 am, Rhialto wrote: Hi, I am not subscribed to this mailing list but I would like to give some feedback anyway. Please Cc: any responses to me. I am testing the Cygwin/XFree server to use it as a remote display for my Unix box which runs xdm: XWin -broadcast. So in the installer I choose to de-install All, and to install *only* XFree86-xserv. I noted that the installer installed a lot of things that are not necessary for that, such as header files, info files, terminfo stuff, static link libraries, xterm, sh, twm, etc. And it downloaded a lot more which it apparently did not even install, such as bash, diff, diffutils, fileutils, etc. I could also do without all those megabytes of fonts, since I have a perfectly ok font server, but apparently no way to specify it for the X server. I got a XDMCP session going on Cygwin-XFree86 around September 2001 using nothing but bash.exe cut.exe cygpath.exe cygwin1.dll cygz.dll grep.exe mkdir.exe mount.exe pwd.exe rgb.txt rm.exe SecurityPolicy sleep.exe test.exe touch.exe umount.exe XWin.exe and a bash script called winxterm.sh. You can do without the script (and therefore bash, cut, grep, sleep, test, touch and mkdir and so on) but the script automatically uses the next display number available (ie, if there is already a display on port 6000, it would try 6001, etc). The script is available at http://www.webone.com.au/~rasjidw/winxterm.sh NOTE: The script *will* need updating to deal with changes to XWin.exe that have occured since September last year. I have not got around to doing this, and probably will not do so. Last year I got part way through creating a nice GUI interface, but decided to wait until the setup.exe process was finished (which it now is), and have not got back to it yet. Others have had similar ideas. See http://xlauncher.sourceforge.net for example. My GUI was being written in Python/wxWindows. It is not really at the point of being worth sharing, as it has to be largely redone due to the setup.exe thing being finished. (Yay!) Given a recent discussion on the list, I will probably try and resurrect my Python/wxWindows code, unless someone wants to take up the challenge of a c / c++ version. Rasjid.
Re: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only
I'd thought I mention that this has been done before, by both myself and Matthew Donald. Both done in the time before the option to install X via setup.exe. My versions are available at http://www.webone.com.au/~rasjidw/WinXTerm-0.32.zip http://www.webone.com.au/~rasjidw/WinXTerm-0.4-Test53.zip with the original website for the project at http://lasp.sourceforge.net/winxterm/. Both of my versions are *very* outdated now, as I had put the project on hold until such time as X was installable via setup.exe. I had essentially decided to take Robert's approach, but have had no time over the last few months now the setup.exe option is available. The main reason I decided to go with the setup.exe option is due to the 'you can't have two versions of cygwin.dll running at the same time' problem. And in fact you can use setup.exe and still only have a 5-6 MB download (assuming you don't install fonts etc and don't actually want anything more than X and bash to work or be available). Doland's project is at http://sourceforge.net/projects/winfree86/, as was also delphi based. I don't think he has done anything on it since January, although I have not had any recent contact with him. Strangely enough, I was planning to start work on project again this month, and perhaps even this weekend, with my first step being to do the script to configure XDMCP access on a 'standard' linux distribution. My planned second step was to then create a 'wizard' that would only download the components you need (much less than even a base level cygwin install) and then use setup.exe to install them. Unfortunately I don't know C or C++, and so was planning to do the install wizard in either python and wxWindows or Java and Swing. If someone want to do a 'native' windows version, that would be fine by me. I'd be more than happy just to play bug-tester etc. Once I got this far, I was going to talk to Robert about possible ways to enable 'non-cygwin packaged' programs to talk to and utilise setup.exe. I have noticed that a number of open source Linux/Unix programs have their windows version using the cygwin dll, but don't use setup.exe. It only takes two of these programs to be using sufficiently different versions of the cygwin dll for things to start breaking. This worries me quite a bit, as what will happen is that people will simply say 'Oh damn, this open source product is buggy. I'll go back to using closed source software, it works better.' For example, MySQL use the cygwin dll for their windows port (see http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-3.23.html) but they are using cygwin 1.3.9 not the current version. This could cause problems in the future if someone does not keep their mysql setup up to date but also uses Cygwin and does keep it up to date (or vice-versa). Because of the above, I think it is important to have a XDMCP only version of Cgywin-XFree86 that does sit within the setup.exe framework. If no-one else does this version, then I will, but I can't guarantee exactly when. If someone else is going to do it anyway, then I wont, as I have plenty of other things I can be doing. ;-) Anyway, enough of my ravings for the evening. It is late and I should be asleep. Cheers, Rasjid.
Re: Cut down xfree server for XDMCP only
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:30 am, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: For example, MySQL use the cygwin dll for their windows port (see http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-3.23.html) but they are using cygwin 1.3.9 not the current version. This could cause problems in the future if someone does not keep their mysql setup up to date but also uses Cygwin and does keep it up to date (or vice-versa). Actually, I just checked a bit more carefully. They host the source for cygwin 1.3.9, but it looks to me like the actual dll they use is B19 (or at least, it is named cygwinb19.dll - perhaps they have a more recent one and just name it that for compatibility??). Someone please tell me I'm wrong, but won't this potentially cause serious problems if someone is running mysql (assuming it really is using B19) and also tries to run an up-to-date cygwin install? Rasjid.
Cygwin-XFree86 package?
Just curious as to how the progress is going on the setup.exe packaging? I haven't seen any updates for a couple of weeks... Rasjid.
Re: xfree in cygwin Setup program
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 7:03 am, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 09:48:31PM +1100, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: Just wondering what the status of getting XFree into the Cygwin Setup program? I followed the discussion on 21st Jan, and a few weeks ago I saw some binaries up on the ftp site that looked like they were in progress, but they are no longer there. I'd be willing to help. They're not there yet. You can help by downloading and trying the setup.exe snapshots that Robert Collins has been making available. I'm sure he would love feedback. Once the new version of setup.exe is available, we'll be able to incorporate XFree86 into the distribution. cgf Okay. I'm in. Where do I get the snapshots from Robert? Rasjid.
XFree in Cygwin Setup program
Just wondering what the status of getting XFree into the Cygwin Setup program? I followed the discussion on 21st Jan, and a few weeks ago I saw some binaries up on the ftp site that looked like they were in progress, but they are no longer there. I'd be willing to help. Rasjid.
Re: XDMCP
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:12, Schulz Georges wrote: I have installed cygwin-xfree on SuSE 7.0 and it works fine. But I can not get it to work with SuSE 7.3. I compared all the adjustments that I made on 7.0 and I keep getting time out errors. Also I can telnet and ftp to the 7.3. Can someone help me. Roger Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon:06145-506 590 $ netstat -u -a | grep xdm udp0 0 *:xdmcp *:* OR $ netstat -u -a -n | grep 177 udp0 0 0.0.0.0:177 0.0.0.0:* If you don't get these, then you don't have xdmcp listening, no matter what adjustments you have made. I'm guessing here, but if you are using KDE's kdm, then you will probably find a kdmrc file somewhere (/etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc on RedHat) which says... ... [Xdmcp] # Whether KDM should listen to XDMCP requests. Default is true. Enable=false ... Either comment out the enable line, or make it say 'true'. This kdmrc file is a new feature in KDE 2.2 - previously KDE just used xdm's configuration. A similar edit in gdm.conf needs to be made if you are using GNOME's gdm. Cheers, Rasjid.
