RE: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough...

2006-05-19 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

Try putting in the -multiplemonitors option.
When I had the same problem last year, the option helped.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick
 Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 7:26 AM
 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
 Subject: RE: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough...
 
 
 If you run XWin --help, you get the following:
 
 use: X [:display] [option]
 
 [snip]
 
 -screen scr_num [width height [x y] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
   Enable screen scr_num and optionally specify a width and
   height and initial position for that screen. Additionally
   a monitor number can be specified to start the server on,
   at which point, all coordinates become relative to that
   monitor (Not for Windows NT4 and 95). Examples:
-screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 2nd monitor offset 
 100,100 size 800x600
-screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 3rd monitor size 1024x768
-screen 0 @1 ; on 1st monitor using its full 
 resolution (the default)
 
 BTW - I didn't say so in my OP, but I also tried XWin -screen 
 0 @1, which 
 is suggested above, and that only got me a 1024x768 windowed 
 XWin on the 
 secondary monitor.
 
 -Tom
  

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RE: problem displaying Java GUI

2006-05-18 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
Should we need to install a new font type,
namely, Fontstruct, into our PC, when enabling
JFrame.setDefaultLookAndFeelDecorated.
Did you have JDK installed on your PC?
If not, would installing JDK5 on the PC supply the
required font type?

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  Warning: Cannot convert string 
  -monotype-arial-regular-r-normal--*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1 
  to type FontStruct
  
  then nothing.  This behavior occurs with both the -X and -Y 
  ssh switches.
  
   Has anyone solved this problem?
 
  With fantastic timing, I've managed to eliminate the 
 problem (although I haven't found a true solution).  Removing the line:
 
   JFrame.setDefaultLookAndFeelDecorated(true);
 
 from my code allowed the GUI to run and be displayed on 
 Windows.  This suggests that the problem lies with the Solaris 
 JDK rather than Cygwin.
  

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RE: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough...

2006-05-18 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

Isn't the command somewhat like this? ...
XWin -screen 0 1000 768 blah blah

I have yet to reach to the point in the cygwin/x docs
where it allows the command with options such as
-screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Are we allowed to specify arguments of this
option this way?
(I'm not too prone to reading user docs/guides
 until I get into trouble).

My actual command is 
XWin -screen 0 1900 1400 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars  
-clipboard -silent-dup-error

I believe multiplemonitors option allows cyg/x
to recognise the second monitor and to allow you
to move your cyg/x window to the second monitor,
which I always do.

I needed the scrollbars option for reasons I
cannot clearly recall. Without the option, I seem
to recall I could not 
stretch cyg/x window to the extremities of my
large second monitor without maximizing the window.

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but if and when you're offended ...
perhaps, it was simply about nothing and much a-do.


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick
 Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:42 PM
 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
 Subject: Can't make XWin on secondary monitor big enough...
 
 
 I've got a Thinkpad with a 1024x768 LCD screen connected to a 21 CRT 
 monitor which I've enabled as a secondary monitor at 1600x1200 
 resolution.  
 I'd like to run XWin in windowed mode on the secondary monitor 
 and take up 
 the full resolution.  However, try as I might, I can't make 
 XWin any bigger 
 than 1024x768 on the secondary monitor.  Here are the obvious 
 command-lines 
 I've tried:
 
 XWin -screen 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 This results in a 1024x768 windowed XWin on the secondary monitor
 
 XWin -screen 0 @2 -fullscreen
 
 This results in a 1024x768 fullscreen XWin on the primary monitor
 
 Any ideas?
 
 -Tom
 

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RE: Unable to Launch Java GUIs on Solaris 9 using XCygwin installed on a windows XP

2006-04-14 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

I won't be saying I have the solution but I wish to clarify so that
I could try out what you are doing.

I need to clarify the part on
We are unable to launch any of the Java GUIs using XCygwin.

Let's say you have your PC and your Solaris9 machines.

There are two possibilities. Let me know which case you are
facing.

Case 1.
You started cygwin/x on PC
You did a remote session (either ssh, telnet, otherwise)
from PC to Solaris9. You successfully displayed a Solaris9
xterm (or dtterm, telnet) on the PC cygwin/x window.
You were able to test run Solaris9 xclock to display on
PC cygwin/x window.
But when you attempted to run java someapplication,
you encountered error (what's the error msg?)

Case 2.
You developed some java apps on Solaris9. You copied them to PC
and attempted to run those java apps through PC cygwin/X.

Case1 or Case2?

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on a windows XP


We have some applications with GUIs developed using Java AWT and SWING 
that are installed on a Solaris 9 machine. We have XCygwin installed on 
a Windows XP machine. We are unable to launch any of the Java GUIs 
 using XCygwin. All Motif GUIs work fine. Has anyone else faced this 
problem ?
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RE: Unable to Launch Java GUIs on Solaris 9 using XCygwin installed on a windows XP

2006-04-14 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

I am able to run 
$javahome/demo/jfc/Notepad/Notepad.jar
without any problem.

I started an xterm on my solaris9 machine
but displaying it on my laptop cygwin/x.
Then, I executed 
java -jar Notepad.jar 

on that solaris9 xterm and the java notepad app
appeared as a cygwin/x window.

Are you able to run the notepad demo java application
from your solaris9 xterm?


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Sent: Fri, April 14, 2006 12:17 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com; Soong, SylokeJ
Subject: Re: Unable to Launch Java GUIs on Solaris 9 using XCygwin installed on 
a windows XP


Case1. Any suggestions are welcome.

Soong, SylokeJ wrote:

I won't be saying I have the solution but I wish to clarify so that
I could try out what you are doing.

I need to clarify the part on
We are unable to launch any of the Java GUIs using XCygwin.

Let's say you have your PC and your Solaris9 machines.

There are two possibilities. Let me know which case you are
facing.

Case 1.
You started cygwin/x on PC
You did a remote session (either ssh, telnet, otherwise)
from PC to Solaris9. You successfully displayed a Solaris9
xterm (or dtterm, telnet) on the PC cygwin/x window.
You were able to test run Solaris9 xclock to display on
PC cygwin/x window.
But when you attempted to run java someapplication,
you encountered error (what's the error msg?)

Case 2.
You developed some java apps on Solaris9. You copied them to PC
and attempted to run those java apps through PC cygwin/X.

Case1 or Case2?

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RE: (n00b question) How does one activate the scrollbar in an xterm?

2006-04-06 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I have not done this with cygwin-x before,
but I do it with my sun solaris.

Create .Xdefaults at home directory if does not already exists.
google or man xterm should tell you more.
Enter/append lines similar to these:

xterm*scrollBar: true
xterm*saveLines: 4000
xterm*cursorColor: Red
xterm*pointerColor: Blue
xterm*borderColor: Red


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Subject: (n00b question) How does one activate the scrollbar in an
xterm?


Hi all.  I'm a *nix newbie.  In M$ Windows, I can edit the properties of 
a console window and thus create a scrollback history.

However, the xterms in Cygwin have no scrollbar.  How does one activate 
the scrollbar and adjust the length of scrollback history?

- Phil


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RE: (n00b question) How does one activate the scrollbar in an xterm?

2006-04-06 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I'm thinking that both .Xdefaults and xterm do not depend on the window mgr, so 
that .Xdefaults entries as well as xterm cmd options should function similarly 
on any x window mgr - at least when specifically about the xterm scroll 
history. Is its scroll history not controlled by xterm itself rather than by 
the window mgr?

However, the shell we use and instructions we have for it might determine the 
length of command history (which is not within context of this discussion/list).

~I believe in G*d and Charles Darwin his Prophet.

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xterm?

Philip H. Schlesinger wrote:

 Hi all.  I'm a *nix newbie.  In M$ Windows, I can edit the properties 
 of a console window and thus create a scrollback history.

 However, the xterms in Cygwin have no scrollbar.  How does one 
 activate the scrollbar and adjust the length of scrollback history?

haeh? I guess it depens on what windowmanager you use./ Mu xterm window 
has a history to the time 

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RE: (n00b question) How does one activate the scrollbar in an xterm?

2006-04-06 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

The little girl asked, When will the world end?
The old man responded, When humans cease to exist.
The old man added, However, the shell we inhabit might determine our length of 
days.
The young man from askance joined in, xterm's not a shell.

The little girl asked, When will humans cease to exist?
The old man responded, When humans are no longer aware of themselves.
The old man added, However, the shell we inhabit might determine our 
consciousness.
The young man from askance joined in, xterm's not a shell.

The little girl asked, When will humans no longer be aware of themselves?
The old man responded, When xterm becomes a shell.

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xterm?


On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Soong, SylokeJ wrote:

 I'm thinking that both .Xdefaults and xterm do not depend on the window 
 mgr, so that .Xdefaults entries as well as xterm cmd options should 
 function similarly on any x window mgr - at least when specifically 
 about the xterm scroll history. Is its scroll history not controlled by 
 xterm itself rather than by the window mgr?

 However, the shell we use and instructions we have for it might 
 determine the length of command history (which is not within context of 
 this discussion/list).

xterm's not a shell;
discussion of xterm is (usually) on-topic for this list.

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RE: windows XP : cygwin -X server not opening

2006-04-04 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
Returning from three weeks of vacation (one week in Montana  then getting 
married in Israel), I am clearing my emails and I cannot resist but to defend 
Avinash. Or inadvertently, further add insult to injury.

Imo - a Senior with amazing two years of experience should be able to 
get a feel how wide a field unix involves,
accept there are things unix one does not know,
argue there are things unix that are now beyond unix,
get help rather than brooding silently,
laugh away at a we-were-once-like-that-too comment.
I meant, a comment from someone we-were-once-like-that-too.

Im(extravagant)o - someone with good years' of experience (perhaps, 
interviewing for a job) should be able to 
tell boundaries of his/her knowledge by discussing things he/she does not know 
beyond things he/she knows.

oops, did I mean with years of interviewing for the same job experience
or, did I mean with years of working experience and if he/she had to interview 
for a job?


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Sent: Tue, March 14, 2006 11:19 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: windows XP : cygwin -X server not opening


Dear Avinash,
from your CV:
Senior software engineer with two years of experience on various 
platforms like UNIX, ..
Imo - a Senior with amazing two years of experience should be able to 
read the messages on his screen, look into a logfile and solve the 
problem within 5 minutes maybe while also taking a look into the 
documentation.
Thanks for the funny post, it made me laugh a lot.
Ask the people where you bought your master. They may also sell you the 
solution to this.
Alex
http://www.aiengine.org
Avinash Sridhar wrote:

On 3/14/06, Avinash Sridhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Many thanks to all the kind souls who have contributed to Cygwin.




Regards

Avinash Sridhar
_
713-471-8605(c)
http://nas.cl.uh.edu/sridhara

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RE: Running Cygwin on multi-user Windows XP

2006-01-19 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
google:
cygwin xp non-administrator account

result:
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2005-02/msg9.html


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Cygwin when installed on Windows XP multi user machines will only run 
under the account in which it in installed.  In addition, the account 
must have administrative rights, which is totally unacceptable.

What do I have to do to get it to run on non-administrative accounts 
that were not the account under which it was installed?

/Tom

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RE: Removal or anonymization of a posting

2006-01-05 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

For the risk of being yelled at for being irrelevant,
I'll exploit the opportunity this story will be
archived for time immemorial.

As the story goes ...

Once upon a time, there was a rich trader who lived in
a huge house who had a poor neighbour living in a tiny
house just behind the rich trader's kitchen.

For every of holy days or when the trader threw a banquet
the rich scents and odour of the kitchen would permeate
into the poor neighbour's living room cum kitchen cum
pantry cum occasional guest bedroom.

Despite all the rich food, the trader felt lethargic and
frail and never had a good day. Once in a blue moon she
had the chance to meet her poor neighbour. Actually, it
was the converse - the poor neighbour might chance upon
meeting the trader. For this particular blue moon, the
trader was especially irritated and so when she saw the
happy and healthy countenance of her poor neighbour she
became extremely annoyed.

What reason for thy fumbling and demeaning expressing
of joy and unbounded appearance of health? What measure
of food my servants might have smuggled thee and which
case I would consider theft?

Nay. Surely not. Said the poor neighbour. For it is
thine own generosity from which did I benefit.

Excellent. What then shalt thou consider as recompense
for this benefit which thou hast unreasonably taken from
me without my prior adjudging or deliberation?

I have not any means to pay thee nor any meaning to pay
for scents and odour that waft into my abode without my
prior consideration or deliberation.

Nay so, for if my pet cat or dog wafted into thine
household without thy prior consideration or deliberation,
shouldest thou not return them each in one piece and
alive rather than consume them for thy personal culinary
and nutritional benefit? So return me my scents and
odours. She demanded.

Nay too, as if it came to that situation, I would have
none of any resources to recapture thy pets unless thou
provided the man-, woman- or person-power to capture the
pets for thyself and recompense me for the trespass of thy
wafty entities as well as the trespass of those whom thou
wouldest send to recapture thy privacy.

Years passed with many friends and relatives as well as
unsolicited strangers wafting into the poor neighbour's
house to enjoy the rich waft of the rich trader's kichen.
So it came to pass that the neighbours chanced upon
another blue moon.

Thou has yet to recapture my assets that had wafted
into thine household. But I shall forgive and forget
and hold you no more responsible for their recapture.
But I understand not why thee and thy many friends exude
such countenance of health and happiness. For I have had
for many years no more feasts nor festivities from which
thou nor thy equally poor friends could benefit.

You forget we have memory. For the good scents and
odours have been archived in our memory and whenever we
think about them we become unboundlessly joyous and happy.

I entreat thee to erase such memory from thy archive
for it is my privacy that thou art accessing each time
you recall those scents and odours. That is the least thou
shouldest have done for me.

What about the scents archived in the memories of my
myriad of friends and relatives? Even if I could
erase my memory off thy privacy but I retain no means nor
such authority to erase thy supposed assets off my friends
and relatives.

On hearing that, the rich trader walked away, feeling
more and more discouraged about the loss of her privacy
that had leaked into her neighbourhood. Is this how
y'all should treat me for the benefit I have given y'all?

~(Copyleft BlessedGeek.com 2006/01/05).
==
 

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Sent: Wed, January 04, 2006 5:59 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Removal or anonymization of a posting


Dear receiver,

it's now for many years that I find a certain posting
in the cygwin xfree archive associated with my name
and (office) email address when I'm looking for my
name with the GOOGLE search engine. 

I have accepted this for the elapsed time for the sake
of other users that might have found help in the
answer to my question. (But I was never happy with it
and I did never agree to this practice at all.)

Now more than 3 years later I can't see any benefit in
this posting and so I want to ask you to remove or at
least anonymize it (and change the file name!!!)

I'm talking about the following posting:
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2002-11/msg00202.html

Internet, news groups and so on are a great thing but
only in conjunction with a careful handling of
personal data, privacy etc.  I hope you understand my
petition and spend those 10 minutes to erase my
personal data from the archive.

Please don't let me hang!

Best regards
Rainer


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RE: How do I make DOS scripts to start X applications?

2005-12-22 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
U:\ SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
U:\ e:\cygwin-x\usr\X11R6\bin\xclock

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RE: pager and virtual desktops

2005-12-20 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

At first, I was wondering if you meant using SNPP to switch desktops.
(Why would anyone want to use telephony to manage a cygwin screen?)
I guess that is not your intent.

I am guessing you are not using multi-windows.

Do you already run twm rather than the default window manager?
I have twm create the number of desktops I need.

Through prior help from people on this list - Alternatively,
I could also run two displays on a cygwin server process
or two single-display cygwin server processes.
Then I use an Win/XP multi-desktop software,
and place each cygwin display window on separate multi-desks.

The links attached by cygwin list server at the end of every email
would lead you to manuals to show how to run multiple display windows
or multiple cygwin servers. Otherwise, someone on the list would
be able write out a short routine to illustrate.

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Hi.

My next question on cygwin is to do with pagers and virtual desktops.
On my regular linux boxes, I run virtual desktops using a pager to
switch between them.
Is this possible under cygwin?

Thanks.
Kind regards.

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RE: How to add a title to xterm

2005-12-07 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
Someone posted a clue on how to make MS Windows Cmd window disappear.
I lost that (rather I deleted lots of emails when my quota exceeded).

If we chose to start cygwin thro a bash cmd window ...
~ How to make that annoying bash window disappear ~

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I do not use startx: for me, it sets up unnecessary or inconvenient
defaults.

1. Start bash

then

2. run XWin -nolisten local -multiwindow  Enter
3. xterm -display localhost:0.0 -title Columbia Enter

works fine for me ...

Fergus

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RE: Is Cygwin/X compatible with HP's mwm?

2005-12-01 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

Did you start cygwin/x xdm and then attempted to run remote host's
mwm on it?

What about going thro xdmcp?

I have always run cygwin/x using both its xdm and xwm on the
same machine.
I have never tried running cygwin/x xdm and then running remote
Solaris or HPUX mwm on it. Is that possible?
Could I also deploy cygwin/x multiwindow and then attempt to throw
remote mwm on it?

Is going thro the remote xdmcp the only way to use remote xwm?

Presuming my terminology is correct:...
xdm - x display mgr to set up the x display
xwm - x win mgr runs on top of xdm,
  to manage the willy nilly remote windows,
  without which those windows will pile up
  on one corner of the local xdm.
mwm - motif based xwm.


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Subject: Is Cygwin/X compatible with HP's mwm?


Is Cygwin/X compatible with the mwm (Motif Window Manager) that comes 
with HPUX 10.20?  Or is Cygwin/X only supposed to work  with Linux? I 
have an application that works fine with Redhat's X server, Exceed, and 
Reflections, but not Cygwin/X.  I was hoping to use Cygwin/X instead of 
the commercial X servers. But Cygwin/X doesn't communicate with mwm. 
I've been trying for days but it's just not working. Application 
windows all appear normal in Cygwin/X but there is no interaction with 
the window manager. For example,  I can't move windows on the screen. 
The last window created is the only one that gets focus. Clicking on 
the others does nothing. Window manager pull down menus don't display. 
In short, there is no interaction at all between Cygwin/X and the mwm 
window manager. Is anyone out there using Cygwin/X successfully in this 
environment? Does anyone know if Cygwin/X has been tested with HP's 
mwm? I also tried the twm window manager that comes with HPUX 10.20.  
Is doesn't work right either. The problems are similar but not exactly 
the same. In the case of twm an outline of the last window created is 
attached to the mouse pointer. Clicking on the desktop causes the 
window to be completed and appear normal.  I am able to interact with 
the window manager after that. But what's going on with this weird 
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RE: FIXED my freeze on startup problem

2005-11-21 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
As opposed to freeze-on-startup, I experience a
freeze-when-network-busy. More precisely, it is
freeze-after-network-busy, because even after the
network clog has cleared, cygwin/x remains frozen.

I am on wireless, and at times the bandwidth to my
laptop is reduced by traffic. I use a motif activity
intensive programme called SAS. When bandwidth gets
clogged, all cygwin/x windows comes to a standstill,
xterms and non-SAS windows as well. When clog is
cleared and bandwidth returns to 54Mbs, all of
cygwin/x remains frozen. I have end cygwin/x, lose
all my charts and code written to restart it.

An irrelevant thought to nibble:
I spell programme rather than program, not just
because of my origin, but also when spelt as
program, southerners like jimmy carter pronounce it
as progrom which sounds discomforting.

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A few months ago I wrote asking for help with my freeze on startup 
problem. I just now figured out what the problem was. I did some more 
looking at the log files, and XWin was waiting for a hung sh process 
that was doing something with keyboard maps. I found a post that 
suggested adding a -kb to my XWin command line parameters, and that did 
the trick! I just wanted to let you all know another possible cause for 
the freezes on startup.

-Andy

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RE: FIXED my freeze on startup problem

2005-11-21 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I was born and then schooled in a time and place
where there was no distinction between the schemes
of thought in tv and computer programmes.
Yes, I am that old and ancient.

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On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:40:03AM -0500, Soong, SylokeJ wrote:
 
 An irrelevant thought to nibble:
 I spell programme rather than program, not just
 because of my origin, but also when spelt as
 program, southerners like jimmy carter pronounce it
 as progrom which sounds discomforting.
 
In the UK the tendency is (or at least my tendency is) to use program
for a computer program and programme for a radio or television
programme.

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RE: CygwinX

2005-11-17 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-x-ug.html
Chapter 4!


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Hi there, from the last two days I have been traying to do download 
X-cygwin/X and  I have been unsucefully.
opened the X terminal and it says:

A fatal error has occurred and Cygwin/X will now exit.
Please open /tmp/XWin.log for more information.

Vendor: The cygwin/project
Release: 6.8.2.0-4
Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
XWin was started with the following command-line:

/cygdrive/cygwin/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -multiwindow -clipboard
-silent-drup-error


Please could you inform/help me to sort out this fatal error, please?

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CYGWIN/X locks up

2005-10-25 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I'm on wireless too.
I've been wondering why cygwin/x has been locking up,
requiring me to restart the x server.
I am quite certain that there have been network admin
activity getting into my laptop.

After terminating cygwin/x when it locks up under
such a situation, wmaker session would still be
displayed on XP process list, along with rsh
sessions I've had. The wmaker session cannot be
killed, either by XP Task Mgr or MS Giant AntiSpy.
I would have to reboot the laptop. No, I could not
even reboot because XP could not kill wmaker.
I had to press the power button.

On restart of cygwin/x, a new set of wmaker is
started, but is not effective as evidenced by all
x application windows piling up at the top left
corner of cygwin/x window.

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Subject: CYGWIN/X11 CRASHES ON BOOT UP - i am not running zone alarm or
any other firewall o.O


Hellos,

I've noticed that if my wireless configuration is
changed by a external program (aka a wireless profile
utlility),  The cygwin/X server locks up. 

I read something about the cygwin server not liking
the ip stack changed?

Any work arounds come to mind?

I only use the x server locally


*more details 
Basically i have a wireless tablet that is
autoconfigured on boot up.  I threw a shortcut to
cygwin/usr/x11r6/bin/startxwin.bat into the windows
startup folder.  The first time you go to use the any
of the cygwin/x functions the c/x stops responding. 
After closing the x server then reopening via
startxwin batch file the x server runs perfectly.  The
wirless configuration is configured after cygwin is
loaded.  There are no firewalls, antivirus of any kind
loaded (incuding the xp's firewall and security center).




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RE: overlapping windows in cygwin

2005-10-24 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I'm quite sure Tweakui would cast its focus-follows-mouse
settings on every app window running in XP.

Ideally, we would want to have focus-follows-mouse only for cygwin.
Running a window mgr like wmaker rather than multi-window
would help accomplish that.

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Download tweakui, part of the Powertoys for XP, from Microsoft.

http://www.microsoft .com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

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RE: starting X on an alternate monitor

2005-10-19 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

Since monitor #2 is an extension display area with monitor #1,
Win/xp treats the whole as a single display space.
Consecutive invocation of xp apps frames would graduate in
coordinates left to right top to bottom, unless the coords
are fixated by the app. A point to prove - that to start
cygwin/x on monitor #2, we would have to specify that
coordinate to cygwin/x, but neither of us know of any
argument startxwin would take to allow coordinate specification.

Since I do not know of such an argument to startxwin
(or its other associated methods of starting),
I specify -scrollbars. Somehow, scrollbars option allows
me to move cywin frame around the XP display area. Therefore,
I move the cygwin frame to an area what we would term as
monitor #2.

Since my monitor #2 area is larger than my monitor #1,
specifying scrollbars has the additional benefit of allowing
cygwin to start larger than the display area of monitor #1.

I know of no better way than this to provide for my want
(and desire) to have cygwin frame sit on monitor #2:
run XWin -screen 0 1900 1400 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars
-clipboard -silent-dup-error

Could someone explain how to make the @2 method work
to avert my current kluge to display cygwin on monitor #2.
Or, is what I'm doing the only way cygwin currently affords me?

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RE: Basic question X - ways to skin a ... mouse

2005-09-29 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I think I've got it wrong and
Brian Dessent is right.
The util is the intellimouse driver.
Which is why I could not find it at Logitech.

On the other hand, I advise you to keep your
double-click assignment for cygwin as well,
and get accustomed to dual-click emulating
double-click.

The reason being, when I sat on a sun-sparc or
aix using their mouse, the native double-click
action is effortless.

However, connecting to those stations using
cygwin/x or reflection/x or eXceed, I need to
click extremely fast to effect a double-click.

Of course, I could configure xp to widen the
interval of double-click recognition. Doing
that, you would realise that a second in
cygwin/x (reflection  eXceed as well) is
but a thousand years on XP desktop.

Most unix visual applications require double-
clicking, and even Motif's own dtfile.

X-Free people ought to look into the difference
between XP mouse interval and remote unix
interval. Is this an X-Free issue or a
cygwin/x issue? I tend to think it's
a cygwin issue. X-Free is normally
used on Linux without having a user shift
between MSWin and XWin. 


Is there a worster place in this country than
Worcester, Mass. (besides Gary, Indiana)?
Is there a more beautiful place than
Bar Habor, Maine?
One is heaven, the other h#ll.
But having to vacillate between the two on a
weekly basis is purgatory.
Is there better loyalty to a football club
than to ManchU, besides L'pool?
One was pure elegance, the other pure brute.
But having had to vacillate between
the two had been pure torture.

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 Gotta go. G'nite.

Where are you? I just got up!

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RE: Basic question 2 - Copy from Windows and paste to cygwin or X

2005-09-28 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I am already doing that (-clipboard), among others:

run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars
-clipboard -silent-dup-error

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Is there a way of pasting text from the Windows clipboard to cygwin or 
X, if you see what I mean?

Thank you.

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RE: Basic question 3 - system tray icon

2005-09-28 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
Piggy-backing on this question,
right clicking on icon is an item Show Cursor.
What does that do, anyway?

I have tried releasing the mouse on that and I don't see any difference to
any cursors on the wmaker screen.

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Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the Windows 
system tray?

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RE: Basic question 4 - Shutting down X

2005-09-28 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
You may also choose Exit
by right clicking X icon on the win/xp icon tray.

http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-x-ug.html



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Is it OK to shut down the X environment by simply clicking on the x in 
the top right corner, or is there a 'more graceful'/better/preferred way 
of doing it?

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RE: CYGWIN 1.5.12 :: CPU : 100% WITH CYGWIN ON WINDOWS 2000 SERVE R

2005-09-28 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

In such a case, my boss would ask me:
1. Would running the script on Linux produce the same CPU hog?
2. What on earth does the script do, anyway?
3. Is it calling another application that's really hogging the CPU?
4. Select the IO and VM columns of task manager and what are their activity
levels?
5. Is the antivirus constantly acting up on every move of the script?
6. Why am I running it on win2k rather than Linux?
   If Linux is distrusted due to management policy on support,
   management should hold equivalent views on cygwin.
   Not that cygwin should be distrusted,
   but that Linux should not be distrusted
   since I trusted cygwin.

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Subject: CYGWIN 1.5.12 :: CPU : 100% WITH CYGWIN ON WINDOWS 2000 SERVER


  Hi
 
 * We are running a bash shell script in CYGWIN 1.5.12 environment on a
Windows 2000 server system,
and while the shell script being run, the CPU usage goes constantly
to 100%.
 * This makes some of our realtime applications to abort (for example,
a patient scan using a CT Scanner;
and the total software/hardware to a abort condition.)
 
 Can you suggest/recommend any work around to overcome this problem?
 
 An early response is well appreciated, since our software saves a lot of
lives while performing the patient scans
 at hospitals.
 
 Best Regards,
 Nilesh Thakar.

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RE: Basic question 3 - system tray icon

2005-09-28 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
No. He is telling you how to shut down with a single click
rather than my right clicking and selecting Exit.
Which is answering your question 4.

Also about your question 2, as someone else recommended,
you should consider running either
startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh.
But doing that, whatever you wrote in ~/.xinitrc would
no longer be effective because either of these startup
files would not call .xinitrc .

I prefer the bat file because I would need to first
start cygwin bash in a win/xp cmd window to allow me to
run the sh file, thereby leaving a win/xp cmd window around
annoying you more than the X icon would.

The bat file is not unix and you might be more familiar
with it.

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On 28.09.2005 16:48 UK Time, Reid Thompson wrote:
 Herbert Eppel wrote:
 
Can the cygwin X server be prevented from placing an icon in the
Windows system tray?

Thank you.


 
 
 highlight with left mouse button, paste with middlebutton/scrollwheel

Highlight what?

Are we talking about the same thing, or are you referring to my Basic 
question 2???

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RE: Basic question X - whatever

2005-09-28 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
With the clipboard enabled, do you know how to highlight, copy  paste
between win/xp and cygwin? I think that is his intent.

Microsoft(which you know):
copy is by selecting then ctrl-c or menu-copy.
paste is by ctrl-v or menu-paste.

Motif  cygwin:
Selecting text would spontaneously
(some people might prefer the term, automatically)
copy into clipboard.
Paste is by middle button click.

e.g. copying from MS to Cyg:
copy text from MS win, move cursor to cyg window and press/release middle
button.
Conversely from cyg to MS:
select text at cyg win, move mouse to MS win and ctrl-v.
Voila!

However, if you don't have a middle mouse button, or you had mapped that
button to do something else, you could use -emulate3buttons option
which would require you to press both mouse buttons together to emulate
the middle button.

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On 28.09.2005 17:20 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote:
 No. He is telling you how to shut down with a single click
 rather than my right clicking and selecting Exit.
 Which is answering your question 4.

Thanks, although I'm afraid I still fail to see Reid's single-click 
solution - but never mind, I think I am satisfied now that my own 
single-click solution (i.e. x in top right corner) is 'safe'.

 
 Also about your question 2, as someone else recommended,
 you should consider running either
 startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh.
 But doing that, whatever you wrote in ~/.xinitrc would
 no longer be effective because either of these startup
 files would not call .xinitrc .
 
 I prefer the bat file because I would need to first
 start cygwin bash in a win/xp cmd window to allow me to
 run the sh file, thereby leaving a win/xp cmd window around
 annoying you more than the X icon would.
 
 The bat file is not unix and you might be more familiar
 with it.

Thanks, I'll try and get my head round that some time, but shouldn't it 
work with -clipboard in the startx command line?

Regards

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RE: running CygwinX with a limited user account

2005-09-20 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I am running cygwin/X under XP/Pro power user
not administrator and I have no problems (with cygwin/X, i.e.).
However, I am connoisseur of all but guru of none.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bart Bacon
Sent: Tue, September 20, 2005 1:28 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: running CygwinX with a limited user account


To the Gurus of CygwinX,
I've noticed that in order to run CygwinX on separate accounts on the same 
machine, all users must have computer administrator privileges under the 
Windows XP Professional operating system.  Is there any work around to 
allow users with limited privileges (such as my daughter) to access 
CygwinX?  Cygwin does not seem to have this problem.  Thanks for a great 
product and hopefully a response to this question.

Bart Bacon
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RE: Can't display remote clients

2005-09-15 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
When I first downloaded and installed cygwin
my ulterior motive was - if there are free
complex stuffs like FTP servers, J2EE servers,
Java IDEs, etc, there must be a free piece of
software for X/Win on Windows. My ulterior
was, where I would prove to those charging an
arm and some toes and yet would not do a proper
job in what they sell.

But to my dismay, cygwin as installed would
not work. It kept giving me cygwin1.dll not
found. Some two months later I made another
attempt. Somehow, somewhere, somewhat, the
installation went as smoothly as sailboat
gliding down the calm Casco Bay on a warm
summer day.

My impression was my success was due to my
visiting a till now yet unrecallable site
which preset all the download choices so that
it knew that my motive was to use X/win. Don't
you hate it after a PC shop (which should remain
nameless) had acquired a venerable mini-
mainframe shop (which too should remain unnamed
but whose founder once berated that the
difference between Unix and his venerable
system was the dismally small number of shelves
it takes to house all of Unix manuals) - that
when I tried to access some information on the
acquiree's product, the links point me to the
acquirer's site, which in turn pointed me back
to the acquiree web site. Not directly but,
going through the pretense of navigating a few
links before lopping the ball back-and-forth
onto each other's court. Fortunately, that
PC shop was itself later acquired by a more
coherently customer-focused company.

This convoluted and obsfuscating email
illustrate my frustration getting information
and education about how to set up cygwin
properly. That when setting up to use
cygwin/X-Free, my proper attitude should
be - it is cygwin that I am setting up and
X-Free is a beneficial ported software. There
might be, but it is not within my ineffable
capability to find a unified coherent
instructional site on cygwin applications.
Despite the fact that not having cygwin/X,
cygwin is nearly useless for most people,
who seems to have similar motivation
(or mismotivation) to mine. In my opinion,
the orthogonality maintained between cygwin
information and cygwin/X information is an
unhelpful myth for participants like myself.

But I have to bear in mind, that cygwin
presents itself to me as a loosely
confederated people like me, unlike the
more tight-knit Tomcat, Eclipse or NetBeans
projects with major interest sponsors behind
them. On the other hand in cygwin, probably
but not necessarily and not limited to people
struggling between embattled personal lives
and enthusiasm for communal software.

Bearing in mind, therefore, it is therefore
not free ware. It costs me to find and look
and experiment. Therefore, I recommend that
the confederation of cygwin users and porters
collaborate to maintain a dependency chart
page - which shows for example, if I wanted
cygwin/X, what modules could be recommended
selected when running setup.exe.

Also, many emails seem to point to the
confusion between an XDM and an XWM. That
people installed cygwin/X but their xterms
and xclock just piled up unmoveably at the
top left corner of the X frame. This amount
of confusion does point to a need for a
more unified web site and cygwin organisation.
If you (the venerable leaders of cygwin, i.e.)
agree and need help, hineni.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Ormerod
Sent: Thu, September 15, 2005 7:38 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Can't display remote clients


Apologies if I'm pumping out too much information on my problems. Have gone
through the User Guide in search of inspiration.

At the end in the section on Displaying Remote Clients - Telnet, I thought
I'd found a possibility - sadly no. However, the results might provide a cue
as to why my install / system is failing to work.

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RE: How to have more than one X display?

2005-09-02 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

Thanks.

I could not find that in XWin man pages,
but XWin -help showed it.

Though $DISPLAY is ineffectual to XWin,
I needed to set it since wmaker (or any xdm)
would need to know the display/screen
to use. I am a happy clam now.

I use wmaker because I don't like using multiwindow mode.
I am not good in dealing with disorganised clutter.
(the antithesis is rather an oxymoron - organised clutter).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Krahn
Sent: Fri, September 02, 2005 12:16 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: How to have more than one X display?


Joe Krahn wrote:
Oh...
The DISPLAY variable has no effect on XWin. Try the following:

   XWin :0.0
and
   XWin :1.0

I can run several of these. But, I noticed that MultiWindow mode is 
broken for anything but display :0.

Joe

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RE: How to have more than one X display?

2005-09-02 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
It's the IDE mindset.
I have two/more projects whose windows I prefer to be completely segregated.
I could use wmaker multiple desktops to achieve that.

However, I prefer a complete segregation. Especially when it involves
two versions of the same project. Need to prevent myself from
inadvertently moving a window onto another desktop. The files of
the two versions would be of such similarity that I had edited one
version with modification intended for another. Rootless would
excercebate (how the h*** do you spell this!) that.

My dream xdm:
Tabs to separate multiple X screens. Like a multi-desktop but
the tabs are managed by xdm not xwm. I know I am cluttering my
X?M terminology. I mean, xwin=xdm, wmaker=xwm.

I'm sorry I'm not aware what RANDR is and therefore am a little
blurry-eyed about that.

I'm not sure if Reflection has its configured but uninvoked
screen as actually an active window parked far off into the
edges of the galaxy. But my impression feels it is not so, as I
had not found it in process/window listing utility I once ran.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Krahn
... In Reflection, is the 2nd screen 'live' but not 
always visible?

But, why have two actual screens instead of one large virtual screen?
If you don't want to lose your WIn32 desktop space, why not go rootless 
or MultiWIndow mode?

If you want the X desktop space, it would probably be possible to use 
RANDR to allow dynamic resizing of one screen to fill one or both Win32 
Displays.

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RE: How to have more than one X display?

2005-09-01 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I had tried both

SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0

SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1

I was guessing to recall which way it could be
to change the display number and had to decide
which to copy and paste into the email.

Either way gives me the same the same message
and similar logs.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Krahn
Sent: Thu, September 01, 2005 7:57 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: How to have more than one X display?


The problem here is that you are varying the screen number, not the 
display number. Multiple screens come from one server. Try using 
DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 for the second one.

It seems to work OK, at least if you don't try to use multi-window mode 
for both, even though several things hint that XWin code does not worry 
much about multiple servers.

Joe

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RE: How to have more than one X display?

2005-09-01 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I simply could not decide if the jabberwocky
is called display or screen.
As the tumtum it leans on called $DISPLAY,
I wish to set to :0.0 and :0.1
as I had in Reflection/X.

Right, now that I have to the terminology
straightened (to roam cygwin wonderland),
Reflection/X allows me to start a display server
with just screen :0.0 with a premeditated intent
of starting screen :0.1 later or not at all.

Reflection would give me two XP windows,
one for each independent :jabberwocky.screen.

Question I should have asked in light of my enlightenment,
How to have more than one screen on an X display server?
Adding to that question,
How to allow willy-nilly starting of another screen later
rather than all at once?

It's all the fault of Reflection allowing me the convenience
that I wanted the same in Cygwin.


This is what my startxwin1.bat have to do to get two screens.
I have to repeat options for each screen.
If I closed one screen both screens die. Unlike Reflection.

Whom should I ask to modify XWin.exe to allow appending
screens after the X server has started?
===
.
run XWin -screen 0 1750 1300  -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars
-clipboard -silent-dup-error -screen 1 1750 1300 -multiplemonitors
-emulate3buttons -scrollbars  -clipboard -silent-dup-error

SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
run wmaker
run xterm -sb -e /usr/bin/bash -l

SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1
run wmaker
run xterm -sb -e /usr/bin/bash -l



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Betts
Sent: Thu, September 01, 2005 12:45 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: RE: How to have more than one X display?


On Thursday, September 01 at 2:09, Soong, SylokeJ wrote:
 I had tried both
 
 SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0
 
 SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1
 
 I was guessing to recall which way it could be
 to change the display number and had to decide
 which to copy and paste into the email.
 
 Either way gives me the same the same message
 and similar logs.

I think the problem is the use of -screen 1.  I've never used the
-screen option myself, so apologies if I'm way off the mark, but I seem
to recall that it was introduced to allow a single X server to use
more than one physical display.

If this is what you are trying to achieve, you need to start a single
X server with both -screen 0 and -screen 1.

If you really do want two displays, try dropping the -screen option (or
use -screen 0 for both), and use the :1.0 form for the second DISPLAY.

HTH

Phil
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RE: problem

2005-09-01 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
When I first installed Cygwin/X and tried,
I ran into the same puzzlement, if not panic.

All the xterms and xclock I started were heaped
into the same corner, intransigently unmoveable.
(The sun shall not strike thee, nor the moon by
night and your feet will not be moved, as though).

Then I recalled, hmm 
There is an X Display Server and then
there is an X Display Manager.
I think. I'm sure I have not confused the
terminology.

The default as cygwin was installed only started
the X Display server.
An X Display mgr would be prudent to have if I
wanted to have a Motif look or even Win/95 look
and to manage how the window or menus behave.
I guess an XDM would also help with coordinate
placement of apps like xclock and xterms.

So I looked into the startxwin files and was as
assured to find twm (which I guessed correctly is
an X display mgr) commented out.
 
I uncommented it and when XWin restarted
my xterms and xclock were moveable.

But I didn't like twm because the extremity of my
X habits tends to pile up lots of windows
and would have me a hard time searching for them
without a desktop window locater. Which led me
to install wmaker.

Hey! Why couldn't I throw xterms from my sun box to
local cygwin? My $DISPLAY on sunside was correct.
With all the authentication failures and whatnots.

Oops, I had forgotten to run
xhost +
on the local cygwin xterm.
(I actually made the mistake of attempting xhost +
on an XP cmd window prior to that.)
xhost + or
xhost + some-network-identifiable-hostname.

The installation was rather simple that
everyone around my periphery of physical influence
should be able use cygwin to replace their branded
X display s/w. 

Now I am beginning to wonder, what if I just started
the X display server on local cygwin and then attempt
to throw an X display mgr to it from my sun box?
Or get a little more screwy,
start x server on my laptop cygwin,
throw wmaker from my win2k box to my laptop,
login to sun box and throw xterms to my laptop.

hmm looking on the sunnyside of things,
but I can't wait for the snow to fall.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RICHARD D HILDNER
Sent: Thu, September 01, 2005 4:55 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: problem


I have installed cygwin and everything seems to run smoothly except I 
can't get any display to work.  If I execute XWin then it opens up a 
grey window with an X at the top followed by Cygwin/X-0:0 and 
that's it.  There's no menu options or anything.  If i do XWin -query 
remote_host then the same thing comes up with Cygwin/X-
remote_host.  
If I connect with ssh -Y remote_host it connects me but if i try to 
execute something that requires a display...such as xeyes...Then it 
says connect 127.0.0.1 port 6000: Connection refused/ Xconnection to 
localhost:12.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)

So i don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks a lot,
-Richard Hildner 

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How to have more than one X display?

2005-08-31 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
How to indecisively start more than one X display on my XP system?


Currently I have a startxwin.bat:

SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
..
run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -whateverelse
run wmaker


as well as startxwin1.bat:
=
SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.1
..
run XWin -screen 1 1750 1350 -whateverelse
run wmaker


Running startxwin1.bat after running
startxwin.bat successfully, gives me an error
logged into /tmp/Xwin.log
which I attach herewith.

startxwin1.bat is an exact replica of startxwin.bat
except for those two lines.
Both of which are direct modification from
default startxwin.bat supplied at installation
except I have wmaker instead of twm.

Do I have to have startxwin.bat this way:

SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
..
run XWin -screen 0 1750 1350 -screen 1 1750 1350 -whateverelse
run wmaker


That would force me to write startxwin.bat decisively if I want one, two or
more X displays.

I prefer Reflection's giving me slack to indecisively decide
when to willy-nilly start an additional X display.



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RE: Copy and Paste between my PC and CygwinX

2005-08-30 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I was using Reflection/X and/or Exceed and recently moved to Cygwin/X.

Like in Motif, paste is normally achieved by the middle moust button.
While copy is achieved by simple selecting(without deselecting) the
text.

Therefore, when I am on the cygwin window/s I use the Motif style
for copy/paste.
And, when I am on an XP window, I use MSWin style for copy/paste.

With such way of negotiating my mouse clicks between both sets of
windows I am able to copy/paste between the two universes.

While Reflection and Exceed would recognise my middle mouse button,
Cygwin would not.

So I decided to modify my Xwin startup with -emulate3buttons 
option. Which required me to emulate middle button by pressing
both L  R mouse buttons together.

Finally I found why my cygwin would not recognise the physical
middle mouse button. I had set its XP driver to double-click,
because sometime ago I was racing to complete MSWin Solitaire.
Which my record time is 76 seconds. A neighbour(in the boondocks
of Maine) managed 55 seconds.(How did he do that?).

I think Reflection doesnot depend on my setting of the
 XP mouse driver and therefore
not affected by my past Solitaire exploits.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lee, Jason
Sent: Tue, August 30, 2005 2:43 PM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Copy and Paste between my PC and CygwinX


I have recently start using CygwinX which is a window to my UNIX
environment.  The problem is that I have being searching for answer to do
copy and paste between CygwinX environment and my PC environment.
I can use Ctrl-Insert and Shift-Insert to do copy and paste in my CygwinX
environment.
How do I copy and paste from my PC to CygwinX xterm windows and from CygwinX
xterm windows back to my PC.

Thank in advance,

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RE: Copy and Paste between my PC and CygwinX

2005-08-30 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
Actually, cygwin does recognise my middle mouse button,
but as double click rather than paste.

That is handy because one has to be a superfast
double-clicker on Motif emulators, because no matter how
I modified Exceed,Reflection or cygwin/wmaker config
I am unable to have mouse double clicking behave as
fluently as if I am on a Sun workstation.

-Original Message-
...
While Reflection and Exceed would recognise my middle mouse button,
Cygwin would not.

So I decided to modify my Xwin startup with -emulate3buttons 
option. Which required me to emulate middle button by pressing
both L  R mouse buttons together.

Finally I found why my cygwin would not recognise the physical
middle mouse button.


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RE: high CPU load

2005-08-26 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
My cygwin/x server processes are at 0% when not used.
They are near 0% even when xwin is receiving lots of screen update from the
solaris client running SAS.

My last cygwin update was two weeks ago.
When was your last update and what were your updates?
 (so that I know what to avoid updating).

I am using XP/Pro on Dell Latitude P4 centrino(whatever is that?),
where my xwin/wmaker is displayed on an external 2nd monitor at 1792x1344.
Are you running wmaker, KDE or native ms windows manager?

I had similar problems of high cpu before but I found that my anti-virus s/w
was trying to check everything netbeans and cygwin was doing. I forgot how I
took care of that. I did not shut any anti-virus process down.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric S. Johansson
Sent: Fri, August 26, 2005 9:14 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: high CPU load


(note: I sent this out last night but it didn't seem to appear.  Forgive 
me if this is a duplicate post)

I'm not sure what has happened but relatively recently I've noticed that
the X11 server is consuming inordinate amounts of CPU (70%+) even when
it is not doing anything.  I've upgraded to the latest cygwin but it
didn't change anything.

Running on Windows 2000 with all service packs plus security fixes.

ideas?

---eric


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RE: Cygwin for exporting CDROM

2005-08-26 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I think you should ask the cygwin apps people
rather than this cywin/x group.

There is something like nfs which runs off cygwin.
I believe so.

IMHrO (In my horrible observation)
cygwin/x is just another app (like the nfs app I
I believe exists) executing on cygwin.

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Sent: Fri, August 26, 2005 2:14 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Cygwin for exporting CDROM


Dear Sir/Mdm,
Is there a way for me to export the CDROM of my PC and
allow a remote mount from another unix system (such as
Sun or SGI) to read the CDROM data?  Thank you.
 

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RE: MOUSE MOVE EVENT + CTRL + LEFT CLICK not recognized?

2005-08-22 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
XWin should have an option
-numlockIsModifier true/false.

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RE: Second monitor and screen resolution

2005-08-19 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
XWin -multimonitor 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Maarten Boekhold
Sent: Fri, August 19, 2005 5:06 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Second monitor and screen resolution


Hi all,

I've got a laptop that supports an external monitor. The windows desktop 
can be extended to that monitor, so I effectively have 2 displays. I'm 
running my X-server on that second monitor using -screen 0 @2. Sofar 
so good.

The second monitor can run in a different resolution than the laptop 
screen. Eg. my laptop LCD runs at 1024x768, but the external monitor 
runs at 1280x1024. I can't get the X-server to use the full 1280x1024 
however. It seems like it detects the screen resolution of the 1st 
monitor, and refuses to use a higher resolution than that, despite the 
fact that the monitor/screen it's actually running on supports a higher 
resolution.

Any way I can make the X-server use the full 1280x1024 resolution of the 
external monitor?

Regards, Maarten

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RE: Second monitor and screen resolution

2005-08-19 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
Earlier mail sent inadvertently.
Actually, this is what I did,

XWin -screen 0 1500 1150 -multiplemonitors -emulate3buttons -scrollbars
-clipboard -silent-dup-error

The scrollbars option somehow allowed X server to use to the extents of the
second monitor attached to my XP laptop.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Maarten Boekhold
Sent: Fri, August 19, 2005 5:06 AM
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Subject: Second monitor and screen resolution


Hi all,

I've got a laptop that supports an external monitor. The windows desktop 
can be extended to that monitor, so I effectively have 2 displays. I'm 
running my X-server on that second monitor using -screen 0 @2. Sofar 
so good.

The second monitor can run in a different resolution than the laptop 
screen. Eg. my laptop LCD runs at 1024x768, but the external monitor 
runs at 1280x1024. I can't get the X-server to use the full 1280x1024 
however. It seems like it detects the screen resolution of the 1st 
monitor, and refuses to use a higher resolution than that, despite the 
fact that the monitor/screen it's actually running on supports a higher 
resolution.

Any way I can make the X-server use the full 1280x1024 resolution of the 
external monitor?

Regards, Maarten

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RE: Dealing with screen resolution changes?

2005-08-19 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
Coincidentally, I had cygwin/X connecting with our solaris server
and I was playing around with the resolution of second diplay attached
to my XP laptop, just before I read this email.

I was running statistical and graphical software on solaris thrown to
my cygwin wmaker display.

My cygwin/X session went blank and unresponsive. No X windows were
shown but the usual latent images sticking to any hung up XP window.
I had to kill the window using XP task manager.

Whenever I use Reflection/X and I happened to play around with my the
resolution of my laptop, despite Reflection/X warning
reset X server ... or else ... ,
the X display would still continue to function without any noticeable
defect or degradation without a reset.

If circumstances had me believe in Santa, though I never will,
this issue would be on my wish list to be sent to the North Pole.
[Dear Santa, I would like to have cygwin/x frost-free whenever I
play around with resolution of my laptop.]

-Original Message-
Is cygwin/X somehow able to handle screen resolution changes?  Currently 
I start X with the startxwin.bat file that comes in the package. I end 
up changing screen resolution depending on whether I am connected to a 
monitor or looking at the laptop LCD. Everytime my xterms start behaving 
oddly (e.g., with a white band in the right side, etc.)

So can I make it work smoothly in this scenario with some flags, etc. If 
not is this on the list of things to do.

Thanks.

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RE: MOUSE MOVE EVENT + CTRL + LEFT CLICK not recognized?

2005-08-19 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
I had similar problems until I found out that my numlock was on.

I run SAS on solaris and it had its own keyboard mapping start-up init.
SAS maps every key with what I think might be the exhaustive modifier keys
combination.

For example,
For [INSERT] SAS maps

none:osfInsert - SASInsert();
Capslock:osfInsert - SASInsert();

When I used Reflection/X,
the Numlock on/off had no effect.

But when I use cygwin/X,
I need an additional SAS keyboard defn:
Numlock:osfInsert - SASInsert();
Which I decided not to define.
I simply make sure the numlock is off.

There are two points to note here:
1. Does your software do the same as SAS,
   and therefore afflicted by it?
2. Why does numlock have no effect when
   using Exceed and Reflection
   but Cygwin/X is affected by it.

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Is this SPAM!?

2005-08-15 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
How is it that is spam could get through cygwin-xfree-owner??
#:- (Grumpingly-Annoyedticon)

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RE: Can I close the startx cygwin shell?

2005-08-12 Thread Soong, SylokeJ

When I start using cygwin.bat, it merely starts up a bash in a simulated
unix env in an XP cmd window.
Then I have to run startxwin.sh, which starts my cygwin-x server on display
0.0.

After which I rlogin to real unix machines, setenv DISPLAY
mysillylaptop:0.0,
 to run graphical apps which throw Xwindows onto my cygwin-x server.
 
If I ever dared close my unabashedly bash XP cmd window,
all my X client windows would disappear.

The question that trebor(robert?) asks is
Can we close the XP cmd window, without killing the local X server
process?
because he probably started using cygwin.bat.

But if he started cygwin-x by clicking directly on
Drive:\cygwin-home\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat,
he would get an error msg,
cygwin1.dll not found.

What he needs to do is,
Right click My Computer to append Drive:/cygwin-home/bin/
to his system path.

Now he would be able to click directly,
Drive:\cygwin-home\usr\X11R6\bin\startxwin.bat ,

and be a rather happy camper (provided he knows how
to set up his XP system path).

-Original Message-Trebor Sreyb wrote:

Is there some way to run startx without opening a
cygwin shell window? Or, alternatively, to exit the
shell window after the X window manager has
successfully started?

Otherwise, I find myself having to leave open a cygwin
shell window that is used for nothing other than
kicking off startx - that window just sits there. 

This is only a nuissance (adds an extra icon to the
task bar), but if there's another way I'd like to
know.

I use cygwin on Win XP SP2.


Doesn't  your startxwin.bat file accomplish this?

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RE: Can I close the startx cygwin shell?

2005-08-12 Thread Soong, SylokeJ
There is possibility that wmaker aborted.
XWin.exe starts the X display mgr.
If you're not using multiwindow on XP desktop
then X window mgr process is twm or wmaker, etc.
I get confused between the terms xdm and xwm,
and sometimes I wonder if I am using the right
(or left) terminology.

Without icons and an xterm that has no titles
and which cannot be moved sounds just like
your xterm is thrown onto a virgin xdm
without an xwm.
Wmaker having set the xdm background before dying
would give an impression wmaker is still on.
What does ps -ef say? Is wmaker in the list?
If not, the question would be why wmaker aborted.

-Original Message-

So, what happens with my startxwin.bat is that wmaker
gets started, but the mouse is unusable, and the
initial icons I expect to see never get displayed.
Only an empty wmaker desktop. I can start an xterm,
but its window has no title bar, resizing button,
window borders, etc. I can use the keyboard.

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