RE: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-06-22 Thread Pille Geert (bizvdm)
Does lsof exist for cygwin?  He could use that to find what is using that address.

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From: Alexander Gottwald
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Subject: Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg


On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, aroushdi wrote:

 Hi Alex , it gives Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651 
 (Address already in use)

Normally this just means there is already a program using this address.
I'm not sure if this applies to your case too or if this is an error
in the cygwin layer. 

I'm sorry to say this, but you are on your own with this. I have no clue 
how to trace this down without being able to reproduce the bug.

bye
ago
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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-06-21 Thread aroushdi
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, aroushdi wrote:

Fatal server error:
Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651


Hi Alex I tried to mount a /tmp for each Xwin session
still no luck cannot bind the session
thks for ur help

I've built a binary which should include a more detailed 
errormessage in the fialed to bind message. Get it from
http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/XWin.exe.bz2 and send me
the output if it contains the failed to bind mesage.

bye
	ago 
Hi Alex , it gives Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651 
(Address already in use)

ihave used different :nn different one with :5 and one :10 with 
diferrent hosts . tried also without the from parm i get not get the CDE 
screen just gray one .

thanks for ur help .
SECOND BAD
===
xwin :10 -query iccpart3 -from icc68651

_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root

Fatal server error:
Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651 (Address already in use)

winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress

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$



FIRST GOOD
==

$ xwin :5 -query iccpart2 -from icc68651
Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 6.7.0.0-1

Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XWin was started with the following command line:

xwin :5 -query iccpart2 -from icc68651

_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
(II) XF86Config is not supported
(II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007
winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff
MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shar
ed memory support in the kernel
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409)
(EE) Keyboardlayout US (0409) is unknown
Rules = xorg Model = pc101 Layout = us Variant = (null) Options = (null
)
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from li
st!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from li
st!
winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 636 468
winProcEstablishConnection - Hello
winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard is not enabled, returning.

Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-06-21 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, aroushdi wrote:

 Hi Alex , it gives Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651 
 (Address already in use)

Normally this just means there is already a program using this address.
I'm not sure if this applies to your case too or if this is an error
in the cygwin layer. 

I'm sorry to say this, but you are on your own with this. I have no clue 
how to trace this down without being able to reproduce the bug.

bye
ago
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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-06-15 Thread aroushdi
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, aroushdi wrote:

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
aroushdi wrote:

Fatal server error:
Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651

I've build a small test program which will query the interface address
which xwin tries to bind to.
get it from http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/gethostbyname.tar.gz
unpack it, run ./gethostbyname icc68651 and report the output.
bye
   ago
NP: [:SITD:] - Laughingstock (No Compromise Remix)
 Hi Alex , Please find below the output of gethostbyname. Sorry to 
respond a little bit late but I was on vacation .
$ gethostbyname icc68651
hostname: icc68651
address: 199.1.100.60
address: 192.168.37.1
address: 192.168.124.1

By the way i have downloaded the XFREE86 package and I have the same 
problem on the second XWIN . This installation was done on a plain 
machine . I guess it is a CYGWIN change that triggered this behaviour.

How can we proceed .

The unable to bind message is quite hard to track down. I'll try to 
add a more descriptive message which will hopefully reveal what the 
cause of the problem is. But this may take some days since I'm quite
busy these days. 

bye
ago
Hi Alex I tried to mount a /tmp for each Xwin session
still no luck cannot bind the session
thks for ur help
amr


Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-06-07 Thread aroushdi
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
aroushdi wrote:
Fatal server error:
Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651

I've build a small test program which will query the interface address
which xwin tries to bind to.
get it from http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/gethostbyname.tar.gz
unpack it, run ./gethostbyname icc68651 and report the output.
bye
ago
NP: [:SITD:] - Laughingstock (No Compromise Remix)
 Hi Alex , Please find below the output of gethostbyname. Sorry to 
respond a little bit late but I was on vacation .
$ gethostbyname icc68651
hostname: icc68651
address: 199.1.100.60
address: 192.168.37.1
address: 192.168.124.1

By the way i have downloaded the XFREE86 package and I have the same 
problem on the second XWIN . This installation was done on a plain 
machine . I guess it is a CYGWIN change that triggered this behaviour.

How can we proceed .
THanks for ur help


bye
amr


Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-06-07 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, aroushdi wrote:

 Alexander Gottwald wrote:
  aroushdi wrote:
  
 Fatal server error:
 Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651
  
  
  I've build a small test program which will query the interface address
  which xwin tries to bind to.
  
  get it from http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/gethostbyname.tar.gz
  unpack it, run ./gethostbyname icc68651 and report the output.
  
  bye
  ago
  
  NP: [:SITD:] - Laughingstock (No Compromise Remix)
   Hi Alex , Please find below the output of gethostbyname. Sorry to 
 respond a little bit late but I was on vacation .
 $ gethostbyname icc68651
 hostname: icc68651
 address: 199.1.100.60
 address: 192.168.37.1
 address: 192.168.124.1
 
 By the way i have downloaded the XFREE86 package and I have the same 
 problem on the second XWIN . This installation was done on a plain 
 machine . I guess it is a CYGWIN change that triggered this behaviour.
 
 How can we proceed .

The unable to bind message is quite hard to track down. I'll try to 
add a more descriptive message which will hopefully reveal what the 
cause of the problem is. But this may take some days since I'm quite
busy these days. 

bye
ago
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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-06-01 Thread aroushdi
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
aroushdi wrote:

Alex thank u for looking into it . Can u look up in the thread Xwin and
multiple users . May be because I am using the same /tmp for each user . ??

Have you tried the testprogram I sent last weekend?
! I've build a small test program which will query the interface address
! which xwin tries to bind to.
!
! get it from http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/gethostbyname.tar.gz
! unpack it, run ./gethostbyname icc68651 and report the output.
bye
ago
NP: Suicide Commando - Never Get Out
Hi Alex , Please find below the output of gethostbyname. Sorry to 
respond a little bit late but I was on vacation .
$ gethostbyname icc68651
hostname: icc68651
address: 199.1.100.60
address: 192.168.37.1
address: 192.168.124.1
bye
amr



Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-26 Thread aroushdi
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
aroushdi wrote:

I am attaching a file of the old version which works u have 2 sessions
running at the same time may be of some help .

I'm quite stuck. I've no idea why it fails. If I find a solution or have
some other things to try I'll let you know.
bye
ago
Alex thank u for looking into it . Can u look up in the thread Xwin and 
multiple users . May be because I am using the same /tmp for each user . ??
thanks again
amr



Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-20 Thread Alexander Gottwald
aroushdi wrote:

 Fatal server error:
 Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651

I've build a small test program which will query the interface address
which xwin tries to bind to.

get it from http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/gethostbyname.tar.gz
unpack it, run ./gethostbyname icc68651 and report the output.

bye
ago

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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-19 Thread Alexander Gottwald
aroushdi wrote:

 I am attaching a file of the old version which works u have 2 sessions
 running at the same time may be of some help .

I'm quite stuck. I've no idea why it fails. If I find a solution or have
some other things to try I'll let you know.

bye
ago
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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-17 Thread aroushdi
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
aroushdi wrote:


how is /tmp mounted?
With the mount command I realized that /tmp was mounted on \documents 
and settings . This is a new change .


I've a small test program which prints the installed network devices.
http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/ls_netdev.tar.gz
Please run it and report its output.
bye
ago
NP: Pulcher Femina - Dark Clouds
I am attaching file containing the information u need .I have added to 
it netstat -a results the Xwin.log which is running till now and then 
another Xwin.log which overwrote the old one and of course produced the 
same error ( unable to bind )
thank u again
amr

$ ls_netdev
ls_netdev $Id: ls_netdev.c,v 1.6 2002/11/10 16:14:32 ago Exp $
OS Version: Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4
Querying devices using ioctl
lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1
eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=192.168.80.1
eth1: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=192.168.226.1
eth2: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=199.1.100.60
lo: metric=1 mtu=1500
eth0: metric=1 mtu=1500
eth1: metric=1 mtu=1500
eth2: metric=1 mtu=1415
Querying devices using internal function

PMIB_IPADDRROW[0x22e274]
dwAddr=017f //127.0.0.1
dwIndex=1
dwMask=00ff //255.0.0.0
dwBCastAddr=0001
dwReasmSize=65535

PMIB_IFROW[0x22e3d0]
wszName=
dwIndex=1
dwType=24
bDescr=MS TCP Loopback interface

PMIB_IPADDRROW[0x22e28c]
dwAddr=0150a8c0 //192.168.80.1
dwIndex=3
dwMask=00ff //255.255.255.0
dwBCastAddr=0001
dwReasmSize=65535

PMIB_IFROW[0x22e3d0]
wszName=
dwIndex=3
dwType=6
bDescr=VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter

PMIB_IPADDRROW[0x22e2a4]
dwAddr=01e2a8c0 //192.168.226.1
dwIndex=2
dwMask=00ff //255.255.255.0
dwBCastAddr=0001
dwReasmSize=65535

PMIB_IFROW[0x22e3d0]
wszName=
dwIndex=2
dwType=6
bDescr=VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter

PMIB_IPADDRROW[0x22e2bc]
dwAddr=3c6401c7 //199.1.100.60
dwIndex=16777221
dwMask=00ff //255.255.255.0
dwBCastAddr=0001
dwReasmSize=65535

PMIB_IFROW[0x22e3d0]
wszName=
dwIndex=16777221
dwType=6
bDescr=Intel 82558-based Integrated Ethernet with Wake on LAN
lo: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=127.0.0.1
eth0: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=192.168.80.1
eth1: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=192.168.226.1
eth2: family=TCP/IP (0) addr=199.1.100.60

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$ netstat -a

Active Connections

  Proto  Local Address  Foreign AddressState
  TCPicc68651:epmap :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:microsoft-ds  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:523   :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1025  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1027  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1077  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1292  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1295  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:2099  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3458  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:4043  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:6030  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:6789  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:38292 :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:db2c_DB2  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1035  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1142  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1149  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1291  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1585  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1598  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1669  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:2543  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:2763  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3164  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3367  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3456  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3456  icc68651:3458  ESTABLISHED
  TCPicc68651:3457  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3458  icc68651:3456  ESTABLISHED
  TCPicc68651:3552  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3572  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3714  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3735  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:4088  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:4154  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:4200  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:4230  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:4276  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:4347  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:4449  :0 LISTENING
  TCP

Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-17 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Mon, 17 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:

 Alexander Gottwald wrote:
  aroushdi wrote:
  
  
 
  how is /tmp mounted?
 With the mount command I realized that /tmp was mounted on \documents 
 and settings . This is a new change .

  I've a small test program which prints the installed network devices.
  http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/ls_netdev.tar.gz

Hm. It reported 3 network adapters. 1 real and two pseudo (loopback and vmware)
maybe this causes the problem.


 Xwin :30 -query iccpart2 -from icc68651 -fp tcp/iccpart1:7100 -once 

Have you already tried using the ip adress instead of the hostname. eg 
 Xwin :30 -query iccpart2 -from 199.1.100.60 -fp tcp/iccpart1:7100 -once



 I am attaching file containing the information u need .I have added to 
 it netstat -a results the Xwin.log which is running till now and then 
 another Xwin.log which overwrote the old one and of course produced the 
 same error ( unable to bind )
 thank u again

bye
ago
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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-17 Thread aroushdi
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
aroushdi wrote:


how is /tmp mounted?
With the mount command I realized that /tmp was mounted on \documents 
and settings . This is a new change .


I've a small test program which prints the installed network devices.
http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/ls_netdev.tar.gz

Hm. It reported 3 network adapters. 1 real and two pseudo (loopback and vmware)
maybe this causes the problem.

Xwin :30 -query iccpart2 -from icc68651 -fp tcp/iccpart1:7100 -once 

Have you already tried using the ip adress instead of the hostname. eg 
 Xwin :30 -query iccpart2 -from 199.1.100.60 -fp tcp/iccpart1:7100 -once



I am attaching file containing the information u need .I have added to 
it netstat -a results the Xwin.log which is running till now and then 
another Xwin.log which overwrote the old one and of course produced the 
same error ( unable to bind )
thank u again

bye
ago
Alex one more thing which might help the second session aquires a lock 
in /tmp/.X11-unix . It has tb cleaned manually to free this port
thks n by



Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-17 Thread aroushdi
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:

Alexander Gottwald wrote:
aroushdi wrote:


how is /tmp mounted?
With the mount command I realized that /tmp was mounted on \documents 
and settings . This is a new change .


I've a small test program which prints the installed network devices.
http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/ls_netdev.tar.gz

Hm. It reported 3 network adapters. 1 real and two pseudo (loopback and vmware)
maybe this causes the problem.

Xwin :30 -query iccpart2 -from icc68651 -fp tcp/iccpart1:7100 -once 

Have you already tried using the ip adress instead of the hostname. eg 
 Xwin :30 -query iccpart2 -from 199.1.100.60 -fp tcp/iccpart1:7100 -once



I am attaching file containing the information u need .I have added to 
it netstat -a results the Xwin.log which is running till now and then 
another Xwin.log which overwrote the old one and of course produced the 
same error ( unable to bind )
thank u again

bye
ago
I am attaching a file of the old version which works u have 2 sessions 
running at the same time may be of some help .
thks
C:\Documents and Settings\aroushdi.ICC68651netstat -a

Active Connections

  Proto  Local Address  Foreign AddressState
  TCPicc68651:epmap :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:microsoft-ds  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:523   :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1025  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1026  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1027  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1046  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1760  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:6020  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:6030  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:6789  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:38292 :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:db2c_DB2  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1044  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1754  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3041  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:3043  :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:netbios-ssn   :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:netbios-ssn   :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:netbios-ssn   :0 LISTENING
  TCPicc68651:1046  iccpart1:7100  ESTABLISHED
  TCPicc68651:1760  iccpart1:7100  ESTABLISHED
  TCPicc68651:6020  billb.ICSI.Net:37350   ESTABLISHED
  TCPicc68651:6020  iccp6502:37349 ESTABLISHED
  TCPicc68651:6020  iccp6502:37353 ESTABLISHED
  TCPicc68651:6030  iccpart2:32984 ESTABLISHED
  TCPicc68651:6030  iccpart2:32985 ESTABLISHED
  TCPicc68651:6030  iccpart2:32988 ESTABLISHED
  UDPicc68651:microsoft-ds  *:*
  UDPicc68651:523   *:*
  UDPicc68651:38037 *:*
  UDPicc68651:netbios-ns*:*
  UDPicc68651:netbios-dgm   *:*
  UDPicc68651:netbios-ns*:*
  UDPicc68651:netbios-dgm   *:*
  UDPicc68651:netbios-ns*:*
  UDPicc68651:netbios-dgm   *:*
  UDPicc68651:1045  *:*
  UDPicc68651:1757  *:*

C:\Documents and Settings\aroushdi.ICC68651ip config /all
'ip' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\aroushdi.ICC68651ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : icc68651
Primary DNS Suffix  . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 82558-based Integrated Etherne
t with Wake on LAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-27-31-B1-66
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 199.1.100.60
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 199.1.100.240
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.2.0.20
194.2.0.50

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet1:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet1
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.37.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . 

Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-15 Thread Alexander Gottwald
aroushdi wrote:

 Alex , I have deinstalled the old cygwin , updated my distro and
 installed from scratch i tried it as is and with the firewall stopped .
 the results are the  same and the errors are the same . I am attaching
 the inmage of the error . Another thing i see any Xwin.log in the
 \cygwin\ not in /tmp ??

how is /tmp mounted?
you can show mounts with the mount command.

 $ xwin :30 -query  iccpart3 -from icc68651 
 [2] 2084

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 $ Welcome to the XWin X Server
 Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
 Release: 6.7.0.0-8

 Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 XWin was started with the following command line:

 xwin :30 -query iccpart3 -from icc68651

 _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root

 Fatal server error:
 Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651

 winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress

 ==
 Good session
 $ xwin :2 -query iccpart2 -from icc68651  
 [1] 2264

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
 $ Welcome to the XWin X Server
 Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
 Release: 6.7.0.0-8

 Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 XWin was started with the following command line:

 xwin :2 -query iccpart2 -from icc68651

 winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
 (II) XF86Config is not supported
 (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information
 winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
 winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
 winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
 winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007
 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits
 per pixel
 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff
 MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
 XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack
 of shar
 ed memory support in the kernel
 (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409)
 (EE) Keyboardlayout US (0409) is unknown
 Rules = xorg Model = pc101 Layout = us Variant = (null) Options
 = (null
 )
 Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing
 from li
 st!
 winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 636 468
 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello
 winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard is not enabled, returning.

Is there any other difference in starting the two session apart from the
display number and the -query parameter? Is the success random or does
if follow any pattern?

I've a small test program which prints the installed network devices.
http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~goal/xfree/ls_netdev.tar.gz

Please run it and report its output.

bye
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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-14 Thread aroushdi
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
On Thu, 13 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:


Alexander , thank u for ur quick reply I have used ur technique with and 
without -from , -fp  , once and they all fail with unable to bind and no 
message in the logfile . I have produced the same errors on winXP and 
W2K . same thing . Old version 4.3 and 4.4 works fine no problem . is 
there a way to get a more diagnosting log . I suspect that there is a 
module locking some file which casses this error . The same error can be 
reproduced on V 4.3  4.4 if use the same port :X we get the same 
message faile to bind .
Alex can u reproduce this problem


no. If I start XWin twice with :1 I get 

winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 1

Fatal server error:
InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 1.  Exiting.
Can you send the commandline which you used to start the xserver? 
What kind of network cards do you use? Do you have any kind of personal
firewall or vpn software installed?

bye
	ago 
Alex thank u for ur concerns ,
I use 2 PC's one IBM Intellistation standard with an INTEL 82556 based 
integrated adapter . The other a T40 thinkpad with INTEL PRO/1000 MT 
Mobile connected integrated also .

the command line I use in the following sequence from a cygwin shell :
Xwin :01 -query host1 -from myhost -once 
Xwin :02 -query host1 -from myhost -once 
the reult is the same if i opened 2 different cygwin shells or change 
the ports .
I have ZoneLab Integrity client installed and all X programs are defined 
as trusted as well as our network which is trusted as well .
I have also a ATT dialer 5.5.01 installed but not active ( Xwin kills 
the VPN connection after sometime completely random ) so i uses either 
but not the 2 in the same time

Hope this will help in resolving my problem .
thks


Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-14 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Fri, 14 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:

 the command line I use in the following sequence from a cygwin shell :
 Xwin :01 -query host1 -from myhost -once 
 Xwin :02 -query host1 -from myhost -once 

These lines work perfectly for me.

 the reult is the same if i opened 2 different cygwin shells or change 
 the ports .
 I have ZoneLab Integrity client installed and all X programs are defined 
 as trusted as well as our network which is trusted as well .

Have you tried disabling the ZoneLab program?

What message is printed _exactly_ when XWin fails? 

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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-14 Thread aroushdi
Alexander Gottwald wrote:
On Fri, 14 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:


the command line I use in the following sequence from a cygwin shell :
Xwin :01 -query host1 -from myhost -once 
Xwin :02 -query host1 -from myhost -once 


These lines work perfectly for me.


the reult is the same if i opened 2 different cygwin shells or change 
the ports .
I have ZoneLab Integrity client installed and all X programs are defined 
as trusted as well as our network which is trusted as well .


Have you tried disabling the ZoneLab program?

What message is printed _exactly_ when XWin fails? 

bye
ago
Alex , I have deinstalled the old cygwin , updated my distro and 
installed from scratch i tried it as is and with the firewall stopped . 
the results are the  same and the errors are the same . I am attaching 
the inmage of the error . Another thing i see any Xwin.log in the 
\cygwin\ not in /tmp ??

thks again for ur help





Bad session

$ xwin :30 -query  iccpart3 -from icc68651 
[2] 2084
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$ Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 6.7.0.0-8
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XWin was started with the following command line:

xwin :30 -query iccpart3 -from icc68651

_XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root

Fatal server error:
Xserver: failed to bind to -from address: icc68651
winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress

==
Good session
$ xwin :2 -query iccpart2 -from icc68651  
[1] 2264
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
$ Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 6.7.0.0-8
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XWin was started with the following command line:

xwin :2 -query iccpart2 -from icc68651

winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
(II) XF86Config is not supported
(II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007
winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits 
per pixel
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff
MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack 
of shar
ed memory support in the kernel
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409)
(EE) Keyboardlayout US (0409) is unknown
Rules = xorg Model = pc101 Layout = us Variant = (null) Options 
= (null
)
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing 
from li
st!
winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 636 468
winProcEstablishConnection - Hello
winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard is not enabled, returning.

===

inline: xwinerr.gif

Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Thomas Dickey wrote:

 On Wed, 12 May 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
 
  On Wed, 12 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:
 
   I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg
   distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have
   Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .
 
  These binaries are likely to be very outdated. We moved to X.org because
  it was easier for Cygwin/X developers to get cvs access there. XFree
  only allowed cvs access for a few people from the core team. We had
  to ask them to include the changes into their cvs. As a result the
  XFree cvs was always a few weeks up to some months behind the Cygwin/X
  development.
 
  The cygwin part from XFree may now be about 7 or 8 months old. Many
 
 Before saying may be, it is proper to verify your statements.
 The 4.4 binaries are no older than the end of December.

I did. The last change to the hw/xwin files was 4 months ago (according to 
wincvs) and those were only changes which were required because some macros
changed. The last major patch for hw/xwin was applied by egbert on
Wed Oct 8 10:13:03 2003 UTC (7 months ago) by eich 

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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Thomas Dickey wrote:

 On Wed, 12 May 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
 
  Thomas Dickey wrote:
 
   On Wed, 12 May 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
  
  
  On Wed, 12 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:
  
  
  I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg
  distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have
  Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .
  
  These binaries are likely to be very outdated. We moved to X.org because
  it was easier for Cygwin/X developers to get cvs access there. XFree
  only allowed cvs access for a few people from the core team. We had
  to ask them to include the changes into their cvs. As a result the
  XFree cvs was always a few weeks up to some months behind the Cygwin/X
  development.
  
  The cygwin part from XFree may now be about 7 or 8 months old. Many
  
  
   Before saying may be, it is proper to verify your statements.
   The 4.4 binaries are no older than the end of December.
 
  So they are old.  Who cares?
 
 Equally, I might point out that (until the recent bulk import), much
 of cygwin's build tree outside the small area of the Xwin server was
 several months old.

They were based on the XFree 4.3 release. But the hw/xwin part was and still 
is being extended with a lot of features and 6 months make a big difference 
between a broken and a much better clipboard integration.

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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-13 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, 13 May 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:

 They were based on the XFree 4.3 release. But the hw/xwin part was and still
 is being extended with a lot of features and 6 months make a big difference
 between a broken and a much better clipboard integration.

particularly when most of the work was done in the past three months.
(the related code in mid-December was, if you may choose to recall,
broken).

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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-13 Thread aroushdi
aroushdi wrote:
Alexander Gottwald wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:


I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg 
distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have 
Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .


These binaries are likely to be very outdated. We moved to X.org 
because it was easier for Cygwin/X developers to get cvs access there. 
XFree only allowed cvs access for a few people from the core team. We had
to ask them to include the changes into their cvs. As a result the 
XFree cvs was always a few weeks up to some months behind the Cygwin/X 
development.
The cygwin part from XFree may now be about 7 or 8 months old. Many
improvements (eg for multiwindow mode or clipboard support) have not 
been included into the XFree cvs.

My question is Xfree going to be abandoned in favor of Xorg . What is 
the relation between the 2 . The reason I am asking because since the 
move to Xorg binaries i cannot have more than one Xsession at a time .


You can start the first Xserver as usual
XWin [options]
and the second with
XWin :1 [options]
the third with
XWin :2 [options] and so on
This results in display names :0.0, :1.0, :2.0 ...

bye
ago
Alexander , thank u for ur quick reply I have used ur technique with and 
without -from , -fp  , once and they all fail with unable to bind and no 
message in the logfile . I have produced the same errors on winXP and 
W2K . same thing . Old version 4.3 and 4.4 works fine no problem . is 
there a way to get a more diagnosting log . I suspect that there is a 
module locking some file which casses this error . The same error can be 
reproduced on V 4.3  4.4 if use the same port :X we get the same 
message faile to bind .

thks for ur help


Alex can u reproduce this problem
thks


Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-13 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Thu, 13 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:

  Alexander , thank u for ur quick reply I have used ur technique with and 
  without -from , -fp  , once and they all fail with unable to bind and no 
  message in the logfile . I have produced the same errors on winXP and 
  W2K . same thing . Old version 4.3 and 4.4 works fine no problem . is 
  there a way to get a more diagnosting log . I suspect that there is a 
  module locking some file which casses this error . The same error can be 
  reproduced on V 4.3  4.4 if use the same port :X we get the same 
  message faile to bind .
 Alex can u reproduce this problem

no. If I start XWin twice with :1 I get 

winCheckDisplayNumber - Cygwin/X is already running on display 1

Fatal server error:
InitOutput - Duplicate invocation on display number: 1.  Exiting.

Can you send the commandline which you used to start the xserver? 
What kind of network cards do you use? Do you have any kind of personal
firewall or vpn software installed?

bye
ago 
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Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-12 Thread aroushdi
I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg 
distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have 
Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .
My question is Xfree going to be abandoned in favor of Xorg . What is 
the relation between the 2 . The reason I am asking because since the 
move to Xorg binaries i cannot have more than one Xsession at a time .
thks n rgds



Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-12 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Wed, 12 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:

 I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg 
 distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have 
 Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .

These binaries are likely to be very outdated. We moved to X.org because 
it was easier for Cygwin/X developers to get cvs access there. XFree 
only allowed cvs access for a few people from the core team. We had
to ask them to include the changes into their cvs. As a result the 
XFree cvs was always a few weeks up to some months behind the Cygwin/X 
development. 

The cygwin part from XFree may now be about 7 or 8 months old. Many
improvements (eg for multiwindow mode or clipboard support) have not 
been included into the XFree cvs. 

 My question is Xfree going to be abandoned in favor of Xorg . What is 
 the relation between the 2 . The reason I am asking because since the 
 move to Xorg binaries i cannot have more than one Xsession at a time .

You can start the first Xserver as usual
XWin [options]
and the second with
XWin :1 [options]
the third with
XWin :2 [options] 
and so on

This results in display names :0.0, :1.0, :2.0 ...

bye
ago
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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:

 On Wed, 12 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:

  I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg
  distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have
  Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .

 These binaries are likely to be very outdated. We moved to X.org because
 it was easier for Cygwin/X developers to get cvs access there. XFree
 only allowed cvs access for a few people from the core team. We had
 to ask them to include the changes into their cvs. As a result the
 XFree cvs was always a few weeks up to some months behind the Cygwin/X
 development.

 The cygwin part from XFree may now be about 7 or 8 months old. Many

Before saying may be, it is proper to verify your statements.
The 4.4 binaries are no older than the end of December.

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Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-12 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:


On Wed, 12 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:


I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg
distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have
Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .
These binaries are likely to be very outdated. We moved to X.org because
it was easier for Cygwin/X developers to get cvs access there. XFree
only allowed cvs access for a few people from the core team. We had
to ask them to include the changes into their cvs. As a result the
XFree cvs was always a few weeks up to some months behind the Cygwin/X
development.
The cygwin part from XFree may now be about 7 or 8 months old. Many


Before saying may be, it is proper to verify your statements.
The 4.4 binaries are no older than the end of December.
So they are old.  Who cares?

Harold


Re: Differnce between Xfree and Xorg

2004-05-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Thomas Dickey wrote:

  On Wed, 12 May 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, 12 May 2004, aroushdi wrote:
 
 
 I am a little bit confused I see here that we have moved to Xorg
 distribution . I took a look at XFree.org and it seems they have
 Binaries for Cygwin till 4.4 .
 
 These binaries are likely to be very outdated. We moved to X.org because
 it was easier for Cygwin/X developers to get cvs access there. XFree
 only allowed cvs access for a few people from the core team. We had
 to ask them to include the changes into their cvs. As a result the
 XFree cvs was always a few weeks up to some months behind the Cygwin/X
 development.
 
 The cygwin part from XFree may now be about 7 or 8 months old. Many
 
 
  Before saying may be, it is proper to verify your statements.
  The 4.4 binaries are no older than the end of December.

 So they are old.  Who cares?

Equally, I might point out that (until the recent bulk import), much
of cygwin's build tree outside the small area of the Xwin server was
several months old.

(It's hard to compare exactly without some work, since the people who
did the import did it carelessly, losing most of the identifiers -
doesn't inspire much confidence in their ability).

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