Re: toad.com filter
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/24/00 at 07:08 AM, Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I've been checking headers watching for the X-Toad, but none so far >-- not much spam either, but one thing I did notice, that I hadn't seen >before, was an extra X-Loop: on some messages with (in just two, there >hasn't been much traffic) a [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ssz.com. This is >in addition to the usual X-Loop: openpgp.net -- and looking back, I >don't seen those. Is this a new thing? And, it would seem, that this one >does show the origin node? At least in the case of Choate's message it >would seem to -- so toad.com should show up here, I'd think, and could be >filtered on, or is it going to be an actual X-Toad? The X-Loop: has been there. The various nodes add that tag to prevent them from getting into endless loops. I had to make a few tweaks to my cdr script. You should start to see the X-Toad: Yes in the headers of messages set through toad.com. I'll send this reply through toad to verify. -- ------- William H. Geiger III http://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html E-Secure: http://www.openpgp.net/esecure.html ---
Re: RSA Security releases RSA algoritm into public domain two weeks e arly. [cpunk]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/06/00 at 08:10 AM, "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >RSA Security Releases RSA Encryption Algorithm into Public Domain -- ------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html E-Secure: http://www.openpgp.net/esecure.html ---
Re: MS-Nationalization By Thomas J. DiLorenzo
In , on 06/11/00 at 10:44 AM, Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >>-- Use it's monopoly with hardware vendors to prevent competition's >>product from being pre-installed on new equipment. >Oh? You mean that if Tim's Computer Company buys some motherboards and >power supplies and processors and such that his company is "prevented" >from selling Linux or Plan 9 or whatever on it? How does Microsoft >enforce this--guns? And you are completely missing the dynamics of the market. Gateway sells only M$ software or on the next release M$ software doesn't run properly on Gateway machines. Exactly how long would a Gateway or a Dell stay in business if M$ software didn't run on their machines? What at first started out as a mutually favorable arrangement for both parties is now nothing more than a M$ extortion racket. As far as the quip about enforcing with guns, M$ is not beyond the threat of force to bully those who challenge them. While M$ does not have their own standing army with guns they have a very active "army" of lawyers who have the power to drag you through the court system at considerable cost (and there is a standing army to back up any of their rulings). Tim likes to present BillyG as the virtuous capitalist fighting the evil forces of government while ignoring the fact the he is one of the biggest supporters of government intervention and regulation when it is favorable to M$. -- ------- William H. Geiger III http://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html E-Secure: http://www.openpgp.net/esecure.html ---
Re: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in itssoftware
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/17/00 at 04:23 PM, William Allen Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The Marston Family Home Page, with the usual round of pictures of > Mom, Dad, the kids, the dog, etc. Entire directory blocked for > "Militant / Extremist, Questionable / Illegal & Gambling", > apparently just because of this paragraph in young Prescott's section: > In school they teach me about this thing called the Constitution > but I guess the teachers must have been lying because this new law > the Communications Decency Act totally defys [sic] all that the > Constitution was. Fight the system, take the power back, WAKE UP! Now now, the nice folks at CyberPatrol wouldn't block sites just because the site's author didn't agree with their political agenda now would they? -- ----------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: Blackmail (whistleblowing?) as a good thing
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/12/00 at 11:00 PM, lcs Mixmaster Remailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >PS. I will send $50 cash to whoever gets this @#$#! CDR: off the subject >line. If you subscribe to the openpgp.net node it removes these CDR: from the subject line. To subscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the body: subscribe cypherpunks -- ----------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
cypherpunks@ds.pro-ns.net
Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] down? I have not received any mail since yesterday from them. -- --- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: X.BlaBla in PGP??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
In <003701bf84c2$d4fc4e50$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/02/00 at 09:44 PM, "Phillip Hallam-Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Wait a minute. If I remember correctly, *Thawte* does X.509 in PGP, >> already, right? >Shure does, the problem with the analysis many have been making is that >it is 5 years out of date. >X.509v1 had problems, the PEM system based on X.509v1 had worse problems. >PGP represented the antithesis of PEM, presenting a usefull criticism. >X.509v3 and the PKIX architecture are the synthesis of both sets of >ideas. >It is time to move on from the state of crypto in 1992 when PGP first >surfaced. It is NOT the most widely used email security solution by the >way. Lotus Notes has held that position for many years. Today the 60 >million S/MIME clients define the standard (Notes R5, Microsoft, >Netscape...). This is pure FUD worthy of Sternlight himself (as a matter of fact he has been using this false argument for years). There may we be more than 60 million S/MIME clients out there if you count every copy of OutLook & Netscape but of how many are actually being used for e-mail? I would have to say that it is a very small percentage of the entire installation base. Now out of those who are using these clients for e-mail an even smaller percentage are making use of the S/MIME protocols. +60 million installations != 60 million S/MIME users. This does not even address the millions of S/MIME clients out there that only provide a substandard level of encryption to it's users. Export versions of S/MIME clients are BAD (Broken As Designed). Almost every S/MIME client is closed source. The applications are closed source & the crypto libs are closed source. None of them have been tested nor peer-reviewed. Both Microsoft & Netscape (IMHO) have been criminally negligent when it comes to the security of their products. Even if they have not put in back doors for their own use and the use of others, their sheer incompetence in the field of data security makes the use of their products unrecommended. S/MIME is a standard but it is not *the* standard for e-mail encryption & digital signatures. -- --- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: bomb making
In <01bf8486$1d27e0a0$1301a8c0@espn>, on 03/02/00 at 02:26 PM, "Bernie Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I work for a news station in Louisiana. My angle on a current story is >how easy it would be for a young person to find bomb making instructions >on the internet. How easy is for our young people? how typical, let write a fearmongering story about the evil internet to scare the sheeple and sell more toilet paper & tampons. -- --------------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: X.BlaBla in PGP??? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
In <p04310102b4e34917c9e4@[38.26.2.8]>, on 03/01/00 at 04:29 PM, "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >First XCert (nice guys, and all, but...) do WOT in X.509. Now Sonera does >X.509 in PGP. >The ganglia twitch... Actually NAI did X.509 in PGP quite a while ago. Should be interesting to see what Sonera is claiming patents on. -- --------------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: Feaky
>--WebTV-Mail-31529-679-- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://216.55.23.229/mailing/mail2.cgi?[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Lets see: WebTv, AOL, Prodigy, & Hotmail all in one message. If we could eliminate the subscriber lists to these 4 services the IQ of the general population would increase by 20 points. Add to this: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Get the Micky$loth winblows users and IQ would increase another 50 point. -- ------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Legalized Immorality -- Clarence Manion
It must be remembered that 95 per cent of the peace, order, and welfare existing in human society is always produced by the conscientious practice of man-to-man justice and person-to-person charity. When any part of this important domain of personal virtue is transferred to government, that part is automatically released from the restraints of morality and put into the area of conscienceless coercion. The field of personal responsibility is thus reduced at the same time and to the same extent that the boundaries of irresponsibility are enlarged. Government cannot manage these fields of human welfare with the justice, economy, and effectiveness that are possible when these same fields are the direct responsibility of morally sensitive human beings. This loss of justice, economy, and effectiveness is increased in the proportion that such governmental management is centralized... Government cannot make men good; neither can it make them prosperous and happy. The evils in society are directly traceable to the vices of individual human beings. At its best government may simply attack the secondary manifestations of these vices. Their primary manifestations are found in the pride, covetousness, lust, envy, sloth, and plain incompetency of individual people. When government goes far beyond this simple duty and deploys its forces along a broad, complicated front, under a unified command, it invariably propagates the very evils that it is designed to reduce. In the sweet name of "human welfare" such a government begins to do things that would be gravely offensive if done by individual citizens. The government is urged to follow this course by people who consciously or subconsciously seek an impersonal outlet for the "primaries" of human weakness. An outlet in other words which will enable them to escape the moral responsibility that would be involved in their personal commission of these sins. As a convenience to this popular attitude we are assured that "government should do for the people what the people are unable to do for themselves." This is an exteremly dangerous definition of the purpose of government. It is radically different from the purpose stated in the Declaration of Independence; nevertheless it is now widely accepted as correct. Here is one example of centralized governmental operation: Paul wants some of Peter's property. For moral as well as legal reasons, Paul is unable personally to accomplish this desire. Paul therefore persuades the government to tax Peter in order to provide funds with which the government pays Paul a "subsidy." Paul now has what he wanted. His conscience is clear and he has proceeded "according to law." Who could ask for more? - why, Paul, of course, and at the very next opportunity. There is nothing to stop him now except the eventual exhaustion of Peter's resources. The fact that there are millions of Pauls and Peters involved in such transactions does not change their essential and common characteristic. The Pauls have simply engaged the government "to do for them (the people) that which they are unable to do for themselves." Had the Pauls done this individually and directly without the help of government, each of them would have been subject to fine and imprisonment. Futhermore, 95 per cent of the Pauls would have refused to do this job because the moral conscience of each Paul would have hurt them if they did. However, where government does it for them, there is no prosecution and and no pain in anybody's conscience. This encourages the unfortunate impression that by using the ballot instead of a blackjack we may take whatever we please to take from our neighbor's store of rights and immunities. -- Clarence Manion Clarence Manion was the Dean of the College of Law, Notre Dame University at the time of publication of this article. Legalized Immorality is extracted from his book, The Key to Peace (Heritage Foundation, 1950) and published in Essays on Liberty (The Foundation for Economic Education, Inc., 1952). -- ------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Sorry
Sorry folks, Made some changes to a script and the whole thing went haywire. Everything should be back to "normal". Again sorry for the inconvenience. -- ------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: Re: why worry?
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/17/00 at 01:01 AM, Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >At 07:25 PM 2/16/00 -0500, William H. Geiger III wrote: >>What signifies you as a socialist is that you see no problem with having >>the government *steal* my property to "fix" whatever problem is bothering >>you at the time. Not only is this morally bankrupt but is an act of >>cowardice. The socialist is too gutless to steal the property himself but >>does so by proxy using government forces. >> >>You do not have a right to my property regardless how worthy & noble you >>think the cause is. If your cause is educating the unwashed masses, or >>midnight basketball for the inner city youths, or saving the family farms, >>the pull out your check book and write a check. >I think a re-posting of the circa 1950 speech (by a school dean, I >believe), regarding the inadvisability and immorality of using government > to undertake actions that citizens themselves would find aboherent, is >in order. Do you still have it? Yes, let me dig it up. Part of my "Essays on Liberty" collection by The Foundation for Economic Education. -- --- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
More Missing Messages? -- More Info
Hi some more info on the missing messages: 1010000[EMAIL PROTECTED]secure? public key downloads<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The [EMAIL PROTECTED] node takes it's feed from the ssz.com & the minder.net nodes. As the following message was not sent out by either of them it never went out to the openpgp.net node. I have resent the message. 2000011[EMAIL PROTECTED]3 Day Exotic Trip - Tickets for Two - FREE<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Duplicate Message body so not sent out by openpgp.net 5111011Duncan Frissell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Re: CDR: Re: whassup<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Duplicate message body of a previous message so not sent out by openpgp.net 1000100"R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Caribbean Dateline 15.4 Was sent out by openpgp.net node, never sent out by other nodes. I have manually sent this message to the ssz & algebra nodes. -- 14 Feb 2000 1010000[EMAIL PROTECTED]secure? public key downloads<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1000100Multex Investor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>MULTEX INVESTOR: U.S. Bancorp Piper Jaffray rates Aether Systems STRONG BUY<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4001111[EMAIL PROTECTED]CDR: 3 Day Exotic Trip - Tickets for Two - FREE<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2000011[EMAIL PROTECTED]3 Day Exotic Trip - Tickets for Two - FREE<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15 Feb 2000 4001111[EMAIL PROTECTED]CDR: Information IS Power!<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4001111[EMAIL PROTECTED]CDR: University Degree<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1000100Multex Investor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>MULTEX INVESTOR: Prudential Securities rates MSFT STRONG BUY ahead of Windows 2000 release<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5111011Duncan Frissell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Re: CDR: Re: whassup<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1000100"R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Caribbean Dateline 15.4 -- --- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html --- Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE, PART 28/36- I+whuLdMN2AtWZkWlelkCQHpr9ra06A+kQVX1qMvlOVXArWvnkpHxyGZixjdLAGX 85oOgodgnnHjJpQNz0ZHCOYY5ZI4EE+FMq8SFA4ah6Zp5iXuyTIpesuP5zP+92J0 dSL+rWYL3lO+9gbkJh22fGBp2vo0lw0fQR/YgEVoGKYphdP6sSjeCwgsF9n2NmFO IEsC19A91tBYeMH2saP23d1CrTHeEHESjUZvWXYiQhydDc4/7mHc8+hlCrLoC9F5 w9ntWyJ0Kqxdb2u04yDba2kpMVNEc/TEa43IUBj1DY2bVb/RHqyfCl+hK2n9shob JK/iciOoMHoqeXY0YBpffwdg3HYDaKKOWYg+6OjN0zEyjdTmRZT1dgVBKjXvdm70 1NA+0g8guZLZkFs4vIgri4yEJ5sVVB29ByqJgqBMecrhg00E1+42+KRZ7AfDkZcw Bnu3hUUz1mOk0C0jTK0GvmDVUOdP5/yZl+XoC7POJ3ENp89KhWdNw7FaFoRR3oUW ibg1AokDZTWSDCf6t7LSZk8SDCd1gnbAnxUx8qB1Le5a/CQW88vLy9l8Pjt/U/wF UEsDBBQAAgAIABKZSShJYaDt0QEAAO0CAAAHABEAcmVzZXQuY1VUDQAHlA+iOAIT =/xfe -END PGP MESSAGE, PART 28/36- Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE, PART 31/36- PDRCuYDbiEuJ7NEqzcVnJphPeOD4K5fBAUKSh635YX7J51fFNRRznV+TfMHyK6uA I3F+zXMC6ReY3YsdhenNZXm/ZGJzWUhbPmozi6LAmOOByzweMNeazc6WLDiajGaz evUJ5Hgg3I39eAiyJOo0FAjU2o7jRuHCkAiG31EoRrh2yjC0Bp7mzNZwT+ByL9Ww 5gjRJJS35rVqleIJw7nt+yy4Zhed9mWviq5eOXi+/NC5gXfsvrO51N1cGs6Zc9PT DEdcOLik2SE6YG1HHE8V9KGJ3KrrkLsaNzMnlm0hsoVUAIMXtFqv/lmtEDFHigpB 2OLIoN0DDgeIxR68fMnr1UpFMfKsGjxtd/9dawARX7xq8kt4Bu07z6v3ql9yMhGd OWn4/rCwva2ykPRitygqK8vDBPEjhRVEEZdsypqpjPQYgX0Sd4DC+MuXJIwC3boi /v3EqjL1funG+iHPyjC6X0oitXgjxVEDnsWIQDUrFcS1tWALZ7G04vXWVQO0yAbs 1fv9NulAHCspVjjRJl4YkWUwiI2FJuZxylnx/qfu5wCdxJXESsTkKgqgQy9fqvin qrRImBMSsz7W3G/Dle9CEMpUDjoV+dbJFYZnO/H8GyYN1C169VwUTwG55q6CYZR6 =hh/2 -END PGP MESSAGE, PART 31/36-
More Missing Messages?
-- 14 Feb 2000 1010000[EMAIL PROTECTED]secure? public key downloads<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1000100Multex Investor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>MULTEX INVESTOR: U.S. Bancorp Piper Jaffray rates Aether Systems STRONG BUY<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4001111[EMAIL PROTECTED]CDR: 3 Day Exotic Trip - Tickets for Two - FREE<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2000011[EMAIL PROTECTED]3 Day Exotic Trip - Tickets for Two - FREE<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15 Feb 2000 4001111[EMAIL PROTECTED]CDR: Information IS Power!<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4001111[EMAIL PROTECTED]CDR: University Degree<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1000100Multex Investor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>MULTEX INVESTOR: Prudential Securities rates MSFT STRONG BUY ahead of Windows 2000 release<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5111011Duncan Frissell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Re: CDR: Re: whassup<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1000100"R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Caribbean Dateline 15.4 -- --- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html --- Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE, PART 28/36- I+whuLdMN2AtWZkWlelkCQHpr9ra06A+kQVX1qMvlOVXArWvnkpHxyGZixjdLAGX 85oOgodgnnHjJpQNz0ZHCOYY5ZI4EE+FMq8SFA4ah6Zp5iXuyTIpesuP5zP+92J0 dSL+rWYL3lO+9gbkJh22fGBp2vo0lw0fQR/YgEVoGKYphdP6sSjeCwgsF9n2NmFO IEsC19A91tBYeMH2saP23d1CrTHeEHESjUZvWXYiQhydDc4/7mHc8+hlCrLoC9F5 w9ntWyJ0Kqxdb2u04yDba2kpMVNEc/TEa43IUBj1DY2bVb/RHqyfCl+hK2n9shob JK/iciOoMHoqeXY0YBpffwdg3HYDaKKOWYg+6OjN0zEyjdTmRZT1dgVBKjXvdm70 1NA+0g8guZLZkFs4vIgri4yEJ5sVVB29ByqJgqBMecrhg00E1+42+KRZ7AfDkZcw Bnu3hUUz1mOk0C0jTK0GvmDVUOdP5/yZl+XoC7POJ3ENp89KhWdNw7FaFoRR3oUW ibg1AokDZTWSDCf6t7LSZk8SDCd1gnbAnxUx8qB1Le5a/CQW88vLy9l8Pjt/U/wF UEsDBBQAAgAIABKZSShJYaDt0QEAAO0CAAAHABEAcmVzZXQuY1VUDQAHlA+iOAIT =/xfe -END PGP MESSAGE, PART 28/36-
Algebra & Cyberpass running SPAM filters?
D]> 6111111Duncan Frissell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RE: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Top Secret Report on Kadaffi Plot<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111"Marcel Popescu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Re: why worry?<002901bf764b$6a57d8b0$0200a8c0@DEVELOP> 6111111John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re: Top Secret Report on Kadaffi Plot<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re: Top Secret Report on Kadaffi Plot<v03130306b4ccc09bad31@[207.111.242.13]> 6111111Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Re: the power of cryptography<v0420550eb4193108@[10.1.1.20]> 4001111[EMAIL PROTECTED]CDR: CHECK THIS OUT!!!<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111Allan Hunt-Badiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Re: why worry?<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Re: CDR: AD:Family Reunion T Shirts & More<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Re: the power of cryptography<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re: Opt-Out of DoubleClick<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RE: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111dmolnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> crypto patent registry?<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4001111[EMAIL PROTECTED]CDR: Work From Home!<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Re: why worry?<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re: PGP?<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re: Privacy Caucus, Books, Transparent Societies, etc.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re: One more thing on privacy...<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111dmolnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Re: whassup<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Government lottery YOU CAN'T LOSE!<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5111011"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Government lottery YOU CAN'T LOSE!<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5111011"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>The Government lottery YOU CAN'T LOSE!<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5111011"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>The Government lottery YOU CAN'T LOSE!<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6111111[EMAIL PROTECTED] Form Submission<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4001111[EMAIL PROTECTED] (diane)CDR: Private Offshore Club Pays You by the Minute.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- --- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html --- Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE, PART 26/36- cGobXHITVB/Y0JOu5bScfKSt0i0emGiJfzH28gV23SrTdJYaAE0w3XIXQE2V33by VNuV8yaum4Q+cDp0VAMM4WLQsVoz5mO+44qBmbayfY3AtCeYN8gQhchJWHndCNzB a9/hvevbBFuXbkOSzqLktITdPexA8o9IadnbdC0Sk3MumbmHi53/Z/fHEOtNfaaQ oUAR/+OXaZdO8oNIJygRHCSz0TVuqhlm3zKWfV5Pgt4wkvzgkVN7yp4KGNNT9LqK 8vIg8QremEwmvOUKCgw163Rcz6Kb4dJZTRtT0UF5B2NtNkSR1dXPN4uQkiEXe4NU rXVQK3xB1fo4TQfFA4cgOTMN2JuCQdrUAEIeJHPF3B68a1dCrBz//8B1QG1KeMRM 8on00LPkoBbRJdKrpUFKTOJ41XsPJ7DzQv4tYFuLpB/xyQlOHgmskwYMyWEDHsNH HJ5O/xuzmsm59GZjanIPMcw2MTyczx/m040r/57tZ3HpRMt231e7iiqQTg5LHGsX YAWHEh7olRliIof6j0HL4Rz4Pm7xvw984Q7aYn935hi3JWAo0ui99DaLB9P0rMA1 uhmJuvMsYKT95NGcnwGx/LgQA4qV3D72yL/SYWFCZ/U2pPYW26V3Sf+69TYgizZ1 =ZPlw -END PGP MESSAGE, PART 26/36-
Re: Re: why worry?
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/16/00 at 05:37 PM, "Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Libertarians think socialists are taking over the world, but they'll wake >up to a world owned totally by corporations. I still can't figure out >what's libertarian about that. It is very simple, libertarians don't care *who* owns what. If the small farmer can't compete in the open market, the so be it. I woun't shed one more tear than I would over the demise of the buggy whip industry. What signifies you as a socialist is that you see no problem with having the government *steal* my property to "fix" whatever problem is bothering you at the time. Not only is this morally bankrupt but is an act of cowardice. The socialist is too gutless to steal the property himself but does so by proxy using government forces. You do not have a right to my property regardless how worthy & noble you think the cause is. If your cause is educating the unwashed masses, or midnight basketball for the inner city youths, or saving the family farms, the pull out your check book and write a check. >In the world as I perceive it, socialists control very little; corporations control >most. Perhaps if you got out of that university and became a productive member of society you would perceive the world a little different. :) -- ------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html --- Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE, PART 24/36- B4imeAWa5UQifWNllgcuYIIvKiM5xrLgIkgRXibpc/kKPv9xohTKZRhIhJdZrIu7 io6w2Kfzc0XTlISvMCZqfhKN0vBgifAyzRDfpFEkT6IRh+7aSukzIbnaXJ4ohVr4 njfY2Ei6ozrmjYEfprrpdfPLPundhKR83lckVeCzUGHv1uer3/+TQGp8IA2+zHSL c2zHc5wJJ8IxnkH7f/EEcds0Suf8PO8+b+/0zV6y3KR8NlfvN07dHMMcdqA79kbj p8n957tpp4wsNsG2aYAn9r/iMNnrflu5eF9a35HxsoVfQm/sT69rmHbycH9dq7Z/ y83cCQ6XUpUj6YIfnjgLwoVxjIQNCOf4hs/OyNqYZ31EITaMA5uHmWP5HCUhfIQL 3em3u2T9fPGi9yM9hBP8PqnbvQaMgkl/NBw8wT+4HI6GN4NR74uXcyH+CtrlCbwS 5BtOKZUYIsDrtF9MUK9Jr2nrNuRF7y4y77IvCnwKHftvO1pNyCk9mgy1s//N/RdQ SwMEFAACAAgAGZlJKJrfhsMdAQAAzgIAAAgAEQBNYWtlZmlsZVVUDQAHog+iOAIT ojiiD6I4bVLBToQwED0zyf7DHDiACXDHmLhRNBtFjTcTE9Nti6DdJaGV77ddO3bL =cULw -END PGP MESSAGE, PART 24/36-
Re: www.digicash.com
In <v04220810b4d07e3edb5b@[10.0.1.2]>, on 02/16/00 at 10:18 AM, "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >--- begin forwarded text >Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:04:15 -0500 >From: >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: www.digicash.com >"fascinating" >--- end forwarded text from http://www.digicash.com/Company/ "eCash software uses digital signature technology based on public key cryptography, to provide authentication, non-repudiation, data integrity, and confidentiality. For the maximum security available, eCash uses 768-bit RSA keys with 3-DES. eCash is a very efficient protocol, which enables key lengths to increase over time without unduly impacting performance. eCash uses Secure Hash Algorithm (SHA-1) for its cryptographic hash function. eCash owns and uses a patented blind signature encoding algorithm that allows banks to issue eCash, which can be sent from consumer to merchant in complete privacy. As financial institutions develop interoperable certificate authorities for issuing digital certificates, eCash will apply standard bank digital certificates to eCash payment protocols." Website is still in the construction phase and only limited info there. The 768-bit RSA keys seem a little small and I am not all that sure that 3-DES is the best choice of symetric algorithms for this application. It is good to see that someone is putting the patents to use rahter than let them collect dust on a shelf until they expire (anyone know when that is?) -- --------------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html --- Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE, PART 20/36- CIIrg/KAxYOMga8KsNu9tOItW//m0LjnzXr14N9eVevW1ut05coflnb96Nuq/mVV B8nfb6qCt6A0cPUDQPrEPZ15vD6p7rqnau1Qux0Kr8N7NfeTHdGw2pz5h2XFQ3Tm 3wza4uL4iP6b917fPcS9/vZqcu2eZapyMz3q7ZlLU91dRdfmRyPcjy76qmXlq+Lr vnnkFIOBU42vzcuXJp4NXSeVR5QXfTHx1cOhOTVz82Wnez4bXuzZ2Y9QKJ9rF65f vkzG2NmvH9Dg1av50DfC/HR4fHRkfq6pq+4NzmXvsTbul3wbTbBfRzc2rYHeUQ4q CqYyL83kwpyeVkPjtuWoW9mjo8sDBr1ftmvz7oAW6lday+8G3DcLvVcbN9z9utXm SAvdF57HQybxbm9L98ewP7VOzYyOzk86Z9B6d3OeDd+FJYr2nuO958Xwwvlu/xt+ 1/kL2/COp6Fru3sc7R7Z6W46+z8+H/446Iyyz4wyLPypa9j/5Lv+HDgX2pv17ZVb 3UsTujw32r+LfSuvXl2audN8dLbd+XK+ennrxLv+VbHXXb/T/yNtiX9wjUaHjUZd o6RvlKhRctgo6RrFfaNYjeLDRnHXKOobRWoUHTaKukZj9u5/bOQXxx9/Fjw7fGzc =KMXF -END PGP MESSAGE, PART 20/36-
Re: why worry?
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/15/00 at 11:12 PM, Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> On another matter, Harmon, are you sure you wouldn't be happier over on >> Commiepunks? >> >> >> --Tim May >> > You mean instead of staying on what you would like to be the >Nazipunks list? If you had any grasp of history & political science you would know there is no significant difference between communism & fascism. -- ----------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html --- Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE, PART 19/36- c3ItJ2smsSCf48pLlk6yRf5IGkAGTCJDbuau2FgMNBqJbh5YDLIPkkgb2DcyMpJW cg9okCxwIaXPe2AaSMbIgUkTWDMSIvJQruqwBiR/5LOkJWTuJGDklC41wGKgf0i8 88BOkjWR/NrAGkE8kkSTC5HeZ4HjLH3+CC9C6kjGTlID50BaRjZMwgDvwQ6TkZNY wSmQGpLtuqQFi4HWhSbIA6sGgUMKbgMbTI4LDUA2B/GQBW6u9NkePA2pLAwCSRZc CekkWTyJDjwM6TQMAYkeXAhOSZbuki0sBjoS2iIPbDk5J9SBDSwmOTe0BNklhEkW OPfSZ82QTOTh0B9kiBA45LhQC2RfEEbk/VAZZKSQMeTUs3iX7UWB/uWI5YF9IyWG 2bCBNYYmgEkhIYa7yQKH55JNLE56XgA6howV4oncHEqErBECCx4CghKOGxIJLgB6 o6MJo0BbwgblgVUnlQcVbGA7oS1gdkjQ4ZyywM27JBmLgVCGPMrD+w4YAl5/2MBD w6RADpHjQ29l4a1J6VkcGD1ID7gr0nvYMggFeCFSZxg7iBe4KTAMNgxSA96nI5mj 8IIDQj0P/DLMBoSSDe9FYHYgq+AcoOWywFKXniuAYYSEgUuDboDlgwiBzyLlh0GE =VCSI -END PGP MESSAGE, PART 19/36-
Re: NWA computer seizureg;
In <v03130301b4cfcc0e251a@[207.111.241.227]>, on 02/15/00 at 07:46 PM, Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Of course, no Feds have ever done a day in jail for violating the ECPA. When has a Fed gone to jail for violating any law? Last I recall was Liddy et. al. back during Watergate. When Feds are allowed to walk the street after commiting mass murder of women & children does anyone expect them to get busted for such minor offences as violating the 4th & 5th amendment rights of citizens? -- --------------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html --- Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE, PART 18/36- c142j6gw64EM1MPNiShsFLvKESF6AJHgH6GG04ELuP2VRQAYdCVIgA8AHmgGmBAf gF0wGuAgtgBzYCKBw2EQhyDrowLQB64RQkAPjgj+T7gAeQA80BFYIfJwMCbeZYF0 8JpjTgTEZfFHwiUnHCAH9QmNoAOOildz9F2UlcVZ2QdWogehYZb1wMHpwPWJwoDO rAsSHcoQvGd7hwDEJQAvugDVRVyAetEFBKJrB8pEQsLcouyDMpFn4b1nHsIAsRco nge4AKMJxcQRggR4TNgFbwAT4vHcezgQy2kFJEAUjiJoDbiBhBxjkBn4AVuAcU4w sJl570kD2IDwHPg0gCRIAOCDVkARpx5wB2WBUFA/9R7O9YXIxXWBuwBhjpsL4ZnY S0jj1sMlgRsFVxqiI0G58N5DsCWSEsi4mwDKIC4XGWIYIZZ4zKWF+AcUg9sEt9x7 eFn2QQtkBnbLrAc3IgrhgggHMJYdAHdISGAs9wIHkA5eA5dEQEIRcYZwCVIC5KA+ oRGUJQARrYBQO/oFCI2vJnFyAKFgFCDAKcON8RM2gpn+a+2eLD5ZfLL4ZPHJ4pPF J4tPFp8s/h9b5Ip5fmLeeB4ZOndTiyDfkcyeAa7WJuUW+gJmdP9auk9Ef5rZk/yQ =Ndzz -END PGP MESSAGE, PART 18/36-
Re: Choate Detritus Revisited
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/15/00
at 07:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>The CDR subject tag affects a large percentage of messages, not just ssz
>ones.
>Is anyone actually using the CDR header to sort mail? I notice Jim seems
>to use pine, which won't sort mail (you use procmail as a front end).
>When people complain about the headers, Jim says "use procmail" (which I
>do). But if he were using procmail properly, he wouldn't need to use the
>Subject line to sort mail. He could add a new header ('X-CDR: ssz'). Or
>even use the existing header 'Sender: (owner-)?cypherpunks'.
>If it's a technical problem, the alternatives above are preferable. Or is
>Jim just detweilering?
I use procmail on my system to remove the CDR: from the header of messages
so not only I do not see them but none of the subscriber to my CP node.
Other node operators may choose to add a procmail recipe to remove them at
their discretion.
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Re: FCF's Dean Lauds Congressional Privacy Caucus
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/11/00 at 12:58 AM, Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >The Congressional members of this new caucus generally are not known for >their opposition to recent government invasions of privacy, and bills >they have championed would rob us of our most cherished freedoms. I'm >not sure why this caucus will be any different. The scarriest word in America Politics: bipartisan. -- ------------------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html --- Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE, PART 07/36- n7G4P8XtJXbIZWo0Nt9F8ozlOYnsqjJKRGA2tqCmstt4YjeOUWzq5VApmKlBvcZL KCbPsewzh/unIoAvUW6hnct6S3FGHOlURI0FMhFIRYEZYi5WLeSZwYeyRJZhB/kS zwyYq9yiCeG5WDjDDnMxNIZzV2ZuKlNDGZnKcwEbZjPTG4ZOF5YSoef0BeAZp+ZK aAxszwENREb2n+UiAL3nWBv4w4isDbRHmVrIAmPReCIKaPYADrLbZGI/k8yhErwB lQA+3FZPZAcNqywxVZVk6lI2nc5MjVx2yLzcn4cigIgicAsv95G4Y9ktlvHxElgS L03EG9OJIQc7LOAMEUhS2JDaVLh1mZgrAb4camOHuQxlE7MBHsvkmUYeluGlWWQ7 AGRTlKDAqthK4hMDfEhz/GyQyudlap9TwC5V+Eipky9ZamrEAMjCKtpyrChmAUW/ bJ15dRKpi/xeoXzBS/jlYBLaa8Q7EeFkZXVyhpxGwYNKMUCRW24gT1CpSEkxemz+ UdznNmkWm9gC0EAtClGcMysFS8Q+trxTowEsNIFpYDUC5RE5iKIWwq3YNFuaYrAB zQY/9yDvozGMXhhaI1ShyACiKEKFV2gAj0BOagkEXEEZIDfNH20dobUOZE+SGuaX =ECDd -END PGP MESSAGE, PART 07/36-
Re: Boiling the DeCSS frog
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/10/00 at 02:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Gutmann) said: >"William H. Geiger III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>IIRC several years ago someone wrote a script that would split up pgp into >>multiple parts (say 100) and then each e-mail message they sent out would >>have a different part at the bottom of the message. >I saw it done via Usenet posts, and it was a real find-the-thimble game >trying to find all the pieces from 1,001 mangled, dropped, spammed-out, >etc articles. What I was after was a way to put it on a web page so that >anyone who went there would see the whole thing, but it wasn't possible >(well, not sanely possible, the MPAA will try anyway) to attack it in >court. This is like the watermark-defeating attack where you snip an >image into enough small images that they drop below the >watermark-detection threshold, then combine them back into a single image >when displayed using HTML. Interesting ... Say you divide up the code into x pieces. Those pieces are stored on y servers. Then any server that wanted to server the CSS code without having the actual code on it's server would then use a list of links to display the code. I see two different possible approaches: 1: The displaying server uses a cgi script that goes out and collects the pieces from the various other server, combines them, and then returns to the browser the complete code. 2: Make use of multiple frames in a manner that the browser is the one that actually goes out to the different web sites and combines the parts. -- I am not very fluent on frames but basically what you want is this: ---fuck_the_MPAA.html Fuck the MPAA Fuck The MPAA Here is the DVD-CSS Code and none of it is on my sever so FUCK-OFF MPAA!! http://server01/part01.html" scrolling="off" frameborder="0"> [Your browser does not support inline frames http://server01/part01.html"> select to get part 1 of X http://server02/part02.html" scrolling="off" frameborder="0"> [Your browser does not support inline frames http://server02/part02.html"> select to get part 2 of X ... etc http://serverX/partX.html" scrolling="off" frameborder="0"> [Your browser does not support inline frames http://serverX/partX.html"> select to get part X of X Fuck The MPAA ---fuck_the_MPAA.html #1 has the risk of the MPAA shysters claiming that your server is, at the time of generating the html page, in possesion of all the code and therefor in violation of the law. #2 should work but will require a web browser that supports inline frames. The same can be accomplished without inline frames using framsets but the setup is more complicated. I will try and set up a sample webpage on my server and see if I can ge this working. In the mean time I have my CSS-Split code running. I have it set to send out parts sequentially for 2 weeks after that it will select parts randomly. -- --- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html --- Fight Censorship! Stop the MPAA! http://www.openpgp.net/censorship.html -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE, PART 01/36- Version: 2.6.2 rUNcYgdjc3MuemlwAFBLAwQUAAIACAADmUkoi0kVx6kSAABnOAAACgARAGNz cy1hdXRoLmNVVA0AB3YPojgCE6I4dg+iOM1abXMbx5H+TFT5P4yTKouQQHnfgF2E luqABZBSnctJnVy5ulLJriWwJDcCsAx2IYpJnN+e7n56t4cUfefobFf0YQXMTs/0 y9Pdzwz45Zdu3TRnxbG9fr7+bPDZ4Munnw3cU5fXN3eH6uq6daf50IXT6dQtykP5 zq2K2/WxcV9t+Nt/NDcVfXi+rncvSYoFv72uGreuN6XbFXfuonTHpty4456mufa6 dG152DWuvnR/Kg9NVe9dxF/4ze//+PWIVziUxUYGLqtt6fI//PF/Xn3ze3dZH9ym bItq2zzHVl8OSFlsWTalO9THttqXjdvUrql3NFDWB9q12l91OzTHm5ttRepsirYg 3WjNkhdYF9stTyv3V7TC6dC1Na/CIrui2rvb+vDueW/fvZWbsiRzmmpXbYsDy7XX RUvC+9Jd3MkK1b5qq2Lrmra4KtlyXoVfLJavXbG9qg9Ve70b0TzIVq3b1vW7xm2r dyTdPmncn49NS+qWeyzc1rLE4c4V+w1pSNOa+rK9LQ4luYh8L4pt61uKjHOvnuzc =J5jr -END PGP MESSAGE, PART 01/36-
Re: Boiling the DeCSS frog
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/10/00 at 01:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Gutmann) said: >Can anyone comment on the status of beating the MPAA-enforced DeCSS >prohibition by composition of DeCSS from code fragments, one line at a >time, each posted on a different site? Since the MPAA couldn't get an >injunction against linking, and no site is posting DeCSS itself (only a >single line), would they be able to attack it in any way? If not, could >I get a list of volunteers (*after* someone's checked that it's OK, I'd >prefer not to be flooded just yet ... I wish I could say I'd thought of >this one but credit should go to Paul Hoffman for the idea). >On an unrelated topic, does anyone know what's happened with the >abraham.cs.berkeley.edu cypherpunks mail -> news gateway? IIRC several years ago someone wrote a script that would split up pgp into multiple parts (say 100) and then each e-mail message they sent out would have a different part at the bottom of the message. DeCSS is small, couldn't something similar be set up? Say 2 or 3 lines of code on the bottom of every e-mail message? Hmmm ... I think I'll take a look at this tonight. -- ------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: net nannies -lighting children on fire
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/08/00 at 07:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anonymous remailer) said: >Consumers should immediately stop using the lighters and return >them to the store where they were purchased for a free >replacement lighter that has a child-resistant mechanism. Gee, should I give up my Zippo too? And how about that dam match industry? When will they ever come out with a child proof match?? Well all know they are a bunch of evil rat bastards that are profiting from the tobacco industry (the greatest evil known to mankind) so we should just shut them all down. After all it's for the *children* !! -- ----------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: test
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/04/00 at 07:49 AM, "Wooly Llama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >>* P L O N K * >> >> >>Hotmail, Mydejamail, WebCluelessMailthey all ought to be killed. >> >> >>--Tim May >procmail, Tim. The subject *was* test. >Toad is deprecated, so I've changed to use a different CDR. >After cyberpass dropped its subscriber list, there was some >question of which CDRs are still active. >The quoted sentence is ungrammatical. "they" is unreferenced. >Spooneristically, Gen Y = en joy, and all that. FWIW listproc, the MLM that I am running, drops messages that only have "test" in the subject. If you want to check the node use something else for a subject. -- --- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: usertracking by URL
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/08/00 at 04:56 PM, Tom Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I have done a bit of research on something that I believe is interesting >to at least a few here. >in short, this german company came up with a tracking mechanism that not >only defeats proxies and forwarders (and anonymizer), but also allows >tracking ACROSS SITES. Hi, I am not sure how this defeats proxies & anonymizers? While this technique allows tracking within the website of a users movements it does nothing to reveal who the user is. At best going through a anonymizer the web site knows that anonymous user xxyz1 took 10 mins looking at the following pages and then followed link x123 to 123.com. Other sites using the Referer: tag to track between sites I find interesting. I would imagine that anonymizers could be set up to delete this tag or put bogus information in them but this may break some web sites. I have seen the Referer: tag used to insure that a user views a specific web page before they are allowed access to another. A good example of this would be a software license page that would be viewed before a user was allowed to download the software. Have you done any testing to see if you change the tracking number in the Location: tag if you can still view the web pages? I am not sure how much of a privacy risk this really is. IIRC a similar technique was documented in some of my CGI books for tracking users in shopping cart applications without using cookies. It should be noted that in some situations tracking of a user while on the site is not a BadThing(tm). I think most peoples concerns is when this information is cross referenced with metaworld data (name, address, ...ect) and then sold off to the marketing droids. By going through an anonymizer service you should be able to prevent this cyberworld<-->metaworld correlation (except by the operators of the anonymizer service). -- ------------------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: Cypherpunks@algebra.com to be CLOSED next week
In <v03130305b4c578779c09@[207.111.241.118]>, on 02/08/00 at 02:43 AM, Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >At 11:13 PM -0800 2/7/00, William H. Geiger III wrote: >>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/07/00 >> at 03:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Igor Chudov @ home) said: >> >>>I will close it next week. Nothing political, I have enough traffic on >>>the computer that handles it and the 200 MHZ CPU is not up to the task. >>>Something had to go. >> >>>It was pleasant to help keep this list running. Perhaps one day I will >>>co-host the list too. >> >>>So, everyone, please subscribe to another list, such as, for instance, >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Looks like the paint is being laid down and we are being chased into a >corner. >Cyberpass.net vanished a few weeks ago, with no explanation. Algebra.com >is about to vanish. Toad.com is of course unacceptable because of past >censorship and because John Gilmore announced that he was eventually >going to discontinue its use for Cypherpunks. >Which leaves Choate's SSZ, which I won't use on general principles. >Looks like when Igor pulls the plug on Algebra I'm gone, too. >Not with a bang, but with a whimper. >Last one out, turn off the lights. cyberpass.net is still up and running. Don't know what happend to them but it seems like a portion of the subscribers became unsubscribed. I don't know if this was caused by a system crash or a file becoming corrupted. I re-subscribed to the list last night and am receiving mail from the node. There are currently 5 nodes in operation: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] which will be leaving us shortly. Not really the end of the world here. I have been subscribed to all 5 lists since each one started and they all have been reasonably reliable for a high volume list. Even if you don't want to subscribe to ssz.com that still leaves you 3 others or if nothing else you could always start your own node to take up the slack. -- --- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
Re: Cypherpunks@algebra.com to be CLOSED next week
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/07/00 at 03:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Igor Chudov @ home) said: >I will close it next week. Nothing political, I have enough traffic on >the computer that handles it and the 200 MHZ CPU is not up to the task. >Something had to go. >It was pleasant to help keep this list running. Perhaps one day I will >co-host the list too. >So, everyone, please subscribe to another list, such as, for instance, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, The [EMAIL PROTECTED] node is still up and running. Below is the subscription information for the list: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following in the body: subscribe cypherpunks That's it. There is plenty of room for everyone. :) -- --------------- William H. Geiger IIIhttp://www.openpgp.net Geiger Consulting Data Security & Cryptology Consulting Programming, Networking, Analysis PGP for OS/2: http://www.openpgp.net/pgp.html ---
