Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
On 06/27/2020 09:38 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 19:41:45 -0700 > Mirimir wrote: > >> On 06/27/2020 07:34 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote: >>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:00:19 -0700 >>> Mirimir wrote: >>> On 06/27/2020 04:29 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > Curious and strangely uncomfortable... :-/ > > < > https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/verizon-teases-forthcoming-dss-launch-for-nationwide-5g/2020/06 >> > > COVID killing people, 5G, and other dreams since... this f* year, ouch! > (>_<)* Yeah, it's been a fucking horrible year, so far :( >>> >>> 'covid' doesn't exist, and 5G is a dream only for the technofascist >>> 'elites'. >> >> OK, so what do you say is killing all those people? > > > I guess you didn't even bother looking at the age of the people > allegedly killed by the 'virus'? So, do your homework, read wikimierda. Sure, COVID-19 is mainly killing older people. Looking at various online sources, almost half of fatalities were over 75. About 25% were 65-74, and about 22% were 45-64. Only about 5% were under 45. And yes, for all age groups, most of the fatalities had underlying health conditions. But most of those people arguably died sooner that they would have, but for COVID-19. Maybe not a lot sooner, I admit. But in the most heavily affected areas, total death rates _did_ increase. Anyway, I do get the argument that it would have made more sense, overall, to just let everyone get infected, and let all the old and infirm just die. That would arguably have avoided the huge economic shitstorm that we'll be facing for the rest of the decade. And damn, if you welcome the shitstorm, why complain so loudly about the proximate cause? Isn't it all for the lulz? >>> and that would be so incredibly amazing. Side note, the correct >>> spelling is CESSPOOL, not 'civilization'. >> >> Yeah, I'd like to see that, in maybe 10-15 years. Because I'd be almost >> dead then, and the "I told you so" rush would be sweet. But it would >> suck if it happens before I'm ready to die. > > > haha... > >
Re: [WAR] The ministry of truth: NATO liberation of Libya, 2011
Looks like the West's evil in Libya is being checked. Bout bloody time too! Russian Mercenaries Have Entered Libya's Largest Oil Field To Block Output https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/russian-mercenaries-have-entered-libyas-largest-oil-field-enforce-haftars-blockade Despite that Gen. Khalifa Haftar's year-long offensive to take the capital was recently was defeated and ultimately pushed back, his Libyan National Army (LNA) still controls most of the country's major oil fields. The Benghazi-based commander has for years secured all oil fields especially in the eastern half of the country, even as Libya's official National Oil Corporation (NOC) is based in Tripoli and operates under the aegis of the UN-backed Government of National Accord (GNA). Haftar has long used this "oil weapon" by threatening to impose a total blockade on exports. Recall that in late January and into February of this year he did just that, declaring a "catastrophic" blockade of oil fields taking output down to almost zero in order to starve Tripoli and the NOC of vital state revenues, which has continued to now. Oil production makes up over 90% of Libya's national revenue, via Reuters. With his dream of seizing Tripoli dashed, thanks in no small part to Turkey's providing significant military support to the GNA, the oil blockade appears to in force more severely than ever, but this time reportedly with Russian help. Since last year it's been widely reported that Russian mercenary firm, the Kremlin-based Wagner Group, is embedded with pro-Haftar forces. But this latest development via Reuters on Friday will certainly raise eyebrows in Europe and Washington. The NOC is now charging that Russia is meddling in its domestic production: ... On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 11:58:01PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > If the following were not true, we'd be incredulous that someone would > propose such an unbelievable and lame movie plot. > > Sadly, this is what North America and NATO stand for. > > > > > I Thought NATO “Liberated” Libya in 2011? > http://journal-neo.org/2016/08/04/i-thought-nato-liberated-libya-in-2011/ > > “Operation Unified Protector is one of the most successful in NATO’s > history… We have done this together for the people of Libya, so they can > take their future firmly and safely into their own hands. Libyans have > now liberated their country. And they have transformed the region. This > is their victory” - Former NATO Secretary General, Anders Fogh > Rasmussen, speaking in October, 2011. > http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_80052.htm > > “In Libya, the death of Muammar al-Qaddafi showed that our role in > protecting the Libyan people, and helping them break free from a tyrant, > was the right thing to do” – US President, Barack Obama, speakingin > October, 2011. > http://www.reuters.com/article/us-obama-foreignpolicy-idUSTRE79L0MH20111023 > > “I am proud to stand here on the soil of a free Tripoli and on behalf of > the American people I congratulate Libya. This is Libya’s moment, this > is Libya’s victory, the future belongs to you” – Former US Secretary of > State and Democratic Nominee for President, Hillary Clinton, speaking in > October, 2011. > https://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/10/19/172519.html > > On August the 1st, US warplanes bombed Islamic State (IS/ISIS/ISIL) > targets in the Libyan city of Sirte, almost exactly five years after > Western imperialists declared NATO’s 2011 war in Libya a complete > success. > http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/17/nato-s-humanitarian-intervention-in-libya-exacerbated-humanitarian-suffering/ > > These strikes are not the first conducted by the US in Libya this year, > in a broader campaign that is officially aimed at defeating an enemy > that the US had a major hand in creating in the first place (I’m sure > the military-industrial complex isn’t complaining however). > > Peter Cook, the Pentagon’s Press Secretary, said in a statement released > on the 1st of August in relation to the strikes that: > http://www.defense.gov/News/News-Releases/News-Release-View/Article/881794/statement-by-pentagon-press-secretary-peter-cook-on-us-air-strike-in-libya > “Today, at the request of the Libyan Government of National Accord > (GNA), the United States military conducted precision air strikes [which > is Orwellian/Pentagon-speak for dropping bombs (not uncommonly on > civilians)] against ISIL targets in Sirte, Libya, to support > GNA-affiliated forces seeking to defeat ISIL in its primary stronghold > in Libya… The U.S. stands with the international community in supporting > the GNA as it strives to restore stability and security to Libya.” > > Wait a minute though, have I missed something? I thought Libya was > “liberated” in 2011 and the country is now a beacon of ‘freedom and > democracy’ for the Middle East and North Africa? Are the Libyan people > not enjoying being “free from a tyrant;” similar to the liberty the > Syrian
Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
See below. On 2020-06-28 02:48, Douglas Lucas wrote: > See below. > > On 2020-06-28 02:23, Mirimir wrote: >> Well, the US dollar may soon be toast. Maybe down 20%-30% by 2021, and >> might be replaced by a gold-backed greenback within a few years (if the >> US can find enough gold, anyway). And/or cryptocurrencies ;) > > There was a sign at a grocery store here in Seattle this evening, > something like: "Cash payments require exact change due to nationwide > coin shortage." And in the greater Seattle area, an electronic sign > along the road last week, I assume from an official entity, flashing the > message: "July 4th is cancelled." I should take pics of both... To be precise, it was "Cash payments *may require
Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
See below. On 2020-06-28 02:23, Mirimir wrote: > Well, the US dollar may soon be toast. Maybe down 20%-30% by 2021, and > might be replaced by a gold-backed greenback within a few years (if the > US can find enough gold, anyway). And/or cryptocurrencies ;) There was a sign at a grocery store here in Seattle this evening, something like: "Cash payments require exact change due to nationwide coin shortage." And in the greater Seattle area, an electronic sign along the road last week, I assume from an official entity, flashing the message: "July 4th is cancelled." I should take pics of both... Doug
Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
On 06/27/2020 07:34 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:00:19 -0700 > Mirimir wrote: > >> On 06/27/2020 04:29 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: >>> Curious and strangely uncomfortable... :-/ >>> >>> < >>> https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/verizon-teases-forthcoming-dss-launch-for-nationwide-5g/2020/06 >>> >>> COVID killing people, 5G, and other dreams since... this f* year, ouch! >>> (>_<)* >> >> Yeah, it's been a fucking horrible year, so far :( > > 'covid' doesn't exist, and 5G is a dream only for the technofascist > 'elites'. OK, so what do you say is killing all those people? And are you literally claiming that the virus doesn't exist, and that there's a global conspiracy behind it all? >> And the rest of the year could well be worse. As in global financial >> meltdown. > > that would be great I don't know that I'd go that far. I do see the ecological benefit, of course. And my Bitcoin and precious metals (physical) would be worth more, relative to stuff. But then, maybe there'd be food shortages, no electricity, and so on. Which would suck. >> And the rest of the decade could bring the end of our entire >> civilization. > > and that would be so incredibly amazing. Side note, the correct > spelling is CESSPOOL, not 'civilization'. Yeah, I'd like to see that, in maybe 10-15 years. Because I'd be almost dead then, and the "I told you so" rush would be sweet. But it would suck if it happens before I'm ready to die.
Re: Timothy C. May: Libertaria in Cypherspace
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 08:21:24PM +, jim bell wrote: > https://news.bitcoin.com/timothy-c-may-libertaria-in-cyberspace/ > [quote begins] > > Timothy C. May: Libertaria in Cyberspace > > Here are a few points about why “cyberspace,” or a computer-mediated network, > is more hospitable than physical locations for the kind of “crypto-anarchy” > libertarian system I’ve been describing. > > Several folks have commented recently about ocean-going libertarian havens, > supertankers used as data havens, and so forth. In the 1970s, especially, > there were several unsuccessful attempts to acquire islands in the Pacific > for the site of what some called “Libertaria.” (Some keywords: Vanuatu, > Minerva, Mike Oliver, Tonga) > > Obtaining an entire island is problematic. Getting the consent of the > residents is one issue (familiar to those on the this list who weathered the > Hurricane Andrew diversion debate). Being allowed to operate by the leading > world powers is another… the U.S. has enforced trade embargoes and blockades > against many nations in the past several decades, including Cuba, North > Korea, Libya, Iran, Iraq, and others. Further, the U.S. has invaded some > countries— Panama- is a good example— whose government it disliked. How long > would a supertanker “data haven” or libertarian regime last in such an > environment? (Stephenson’s fascinating Snow Crash didn’t address the issue of > why the “Raft” wasn’t simply sunk by the remaining military forces.) > > I should note that the recent splintering of countries may provide > opportunities for libertarian (or PPL, if you prefer to think of it in this > way) regions. Some have speculated that Russia itself is a candidate, given > that it has little vested in the previous system and may be willing to > abandon statism. If several dozen new countries are formed, some > opportunities exist. > > The basic problem is that physical space is too small, too exposed to the > view of others. “Libertaria” in the form of, say, an island, is too exposed > to the retaliation of world powers. (I won’t go into the “private nukes” > strategy, which I need to think about further.) > > A floating private nation (or whatever it’s called) is too vulnerable to a > single well-placed torpedo. Even if it serves as a kind of Swiss-bank, and > thus gets some of the same protection Switzerland got (to wit, many leaders > kept their loot there), it is too vulnerable to a single attacker or invader. > Piracy will be just one of the problems. > > Finally, how many of us want to move to a South Pacific island? Or a North > Sea oil rig? Or even to Russia? > [end of partial quote] Transitions dear boy, transitions. Today folks witness the spectacular success and autonomy achieved by CHAZ, and wish to сее this "autonomous anarchist θτοπια" immediately replicated in their local community. Perhaps we can make a list of "example cherries to plucк" which the common man can embrace and readily identify as good, ußeful, relevant to hiss elf. Privacy of communication, cash and the privacy of human to human trade this enables, the freedom to choose (and to choose to not) have any object inserted into your body, etc. Man, as in men and women, must actually know about and actually want, such freedoms. If the majority truly believe that our body's natural immune system and its natural development must be bypassed, we see the stasi στασι стаси knock down our front doors when we proudly "resist". Folks must be edumacated, one by one..
Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
On 06/27/2020 05:41 PM, Douglas Lucas wrote: > See below. > > On 2020-06-28 00:00, Mirimir wrote: >> And the rest of the year could well be worse. As in global financial >> meltdown. And the rest of the decade could bring the end of our entire >> civilization. AKA the Jackpot. Or at least, over the inflection point. > > The term "the Jackpot" of course comes from William Gibson's 2014 > science fiction novel The Peripheral. Yeah, I should have mentioned that. But hey, every cpunk knows that, no? > There's nowadays a subreddit r/collapse where redditors discuss, well, > "the collapse", that being their term. > > I've been wondering for a while - what other terms, from science fiction > or Internet subcultures or elsewhere - are there for this current thing > humanity is experiencing? Besides "the Jackpot" and "the collapse", can > anyone list any additional widely or significantly used ones? Some sort of collapse is a standard start for dystopian fiction. Decades ago, it was typically global nuclear war. However, I do recall some SF where it was toxic chemical pollution. Now it's often global climate change. That's a huge piece of Gibson 's Jackpot. Along with pandemics :\ It's also a key aspect of the back story in Watts' _Blindsight_ and _Echopraxia_. But I don't recall that Watts has a name for it. > (Not to mention, just, an anthropogenic mass extinction event. Cue > reactionaries on this list freaking out because they are primed to > protect dolla dolla bill from evidence of global warming etc.) Well, the US dollar may soon be toast. Maybe down 20%-30% by 2021, and might be replaced by a gold-backed greenback within a few years (if the US can find enough gold, anyway). And/or cryptocurrencies ;) > Doug >
Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 21:00 Mirimir wrote: > > But hey, maybe I'll be dead (not just inside) so I won't care ;) > No, you won't die. Sorry, people like us have no much luck in this specific point. Unfortunately, we will live enough for meeting each other in person. Really frustrating, tsc tsc... ;) Patience, please. I cannot die now, my lovely Mirimir. Sincerely sorry. I promised to keep myself alive, sane, and enoughly healthy for being an efficient panic button to some people for some time. Absolutely boring and exhaustive, not charming at all, but necessary in the moment. They are more useful to the world than me, la la la... They always are, aff... And two of them do hate me! (Yep! Grumpy cat feelings! Think I need sugar or my bad mood will kill people soon. Don't worry, my stress is making me lose weight in a scary way! ;) Ah, before I forget asking it again, do you want to try a conspiracy using a completely public list just for fun? No much free time and patience for it now, but could be an interesting experience in the future... puuu... Ah! Not using this cute list and our names in the first experience, just to keep everyone safe. I do love you. Keep yourself pretty safe too, please! <3 >
Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
See below. On 2020-06-28 00:00, Mirimir wrote: > And the rest of the year could well be worse. As in global financial > meltdown. And the rest of the decade could bring the end of our entire > civilization. AKA the Jackpot. Or at least, over the inflection point. The term "the Jackpot" of course comes from William Gibson's 2014 science fiction novel The Peripheral. There's nowadays a subreddit r/collapse where redditors discuss, well, "the collapse", that being their term. I've been wondering for a while - what other terms, from science fiction or Internet subcultures or elsewhere - are there for this current thing humanity is experiencing? Besides "the Jackpot" and "the collapse", can anyone list any additional widely or significantly used ones? (Not to mention, just, an anthropogenic mass extinction event. Cue reactionaries on this list freaking out because they are primed to protect dolla dolla bill from evidence of global warming etc.) Doug
Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
On 06/27/2020 04:29 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > Curious and strangely uncomfortable... :-/ > > < > https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/verizon-teases-forthcoming-dss-launch-for-nationwide-5g/2020/06 >> > > COVID killing people, 5G, and other dreams since... this f* year, ouch! > (>_<)* Yeah, it's been a fucking horrible year, so far :( And the rest of the year could well be worse. As in global financial meltdown. And the rest of the decade could bring the end of our entire civilization. AKA the Jackpot. Or at least, over the inflection point. But hey, maybe I'll be dead (not just inside) so I won't care ;)
[OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
Curious and strangely uncomfortable... :-/ < https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/verizon-teases-forthcoming-dss-launch-for-nationwide-5g/2020/06 > COVID killing people, 5G, and other dreams since... this f* year, ouch! (>_<)*
Michael Wilson Thesis
https://eprints.qut.edu.au/199696/1/Michael_Wilson_Thesis.pdf [partial quote follows] "As the political and legal battles of the first ‘crypto-war’ were heating up in the1990’s, the technologist and activist Timothy C. May (1992) authored the CryptoAnarchist Manifesto. The manifesto proclaims cryptographic software “will altercompletely the nature of government regulation, the ability to tax and controleconomic interactions, the ability to keep information secret, and will even alter thenature of trust and reputation” while also recognising the potential that “crypto anarchywill allow national secrets to be trade freely and will allow illicit and stolen materialsto be traded… an anonymous computerized market will even make possible abhorrentmarkets for assassinations and extortion” (May, 1992, paras. 1, 3). Similarly,prominent crypto-anarchist Jim Bell (1996) published the tenth (and final) volume of 78his essay Assassination Politics in 1996, where he argued for an online assassinationmarket as a tool of social control in service of the comparatively powerless. The ideawas that citizens could use cryptography to mask their identities to place ‘bets’ on thetime of death of public officials and business leaders. The logic is that everyone whois willing to contribute to a bounty will place a ‘bet’ on the time of death, while the‘winner’ would be the person who conducts the assassination via their foreknowledgeof the time of death. The proposal attests to how the politics of privacy protection wereparticularly controversial during the 1990s. It is for this reason that the ‘crypto-war’ was so fiercely fought on both sides,prompted by the initial release of public key encryption to members of the public.Following the Second World War, cryptographic software was legally classified as amunition and subject to strict regulation and export controls (Levin, 1998, p. 532). Bythe early 1990s, the NSA was attempting to install a ‘Clipper Chip’ within telephones,to provide the US Government with ‘backdoor’ access to encrypted communications(Froomkin, 1995, p. 745). As a result of the proposal, technologist Philip Zimmermanpublished public-key encryption tool Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) via file-sharingservices in June of 1991. Characteristic of crypto-anarchists of the time, Zimmerman(1994) published PGP’s code in a physical book titled PGP Source Code and Internals,so the technology could be discretely distributed. As Zimmerman (1994, para. 3)observes in the foreword of the book, “cryptography is a surprisingly politicaltechnology.” By publishing the code, Zimmerman became the subject of aninvestigation by the US Customs Service examining whether he had violated the USArms Export Control Act (1976), although the case was dropped in 1996 withoutexplanation (Lauzon, 1998, p. 1327). The release of public-key encryption technologythus empowered ordinary users to protect their privacy. 79The popularity and development of such privacy-enhancing technologies hasincreased significantly since the ‘crypto-war’ of the 1990s. Tracking the trends in theirdevelopment during the decade from 1997, Goldberg (2007, p. 11) observes how thethen-recently developed Tor Browser was exponentially growing in popularity.Similarly, in response to growing awareness about mass surveillance, the CryptoPartymovement was established in 2011 to educate the public about cryptographic software.The decentralized movement promotes “crypto parties” where experts educate citizensabout encryption and digital anonymity. In this vein, they are a type of informationsecurity workshop (e.g. Albrechtsen & Hovden, 2010). Data provided by the TorProject (2018) highlights how the number of publicly52 connecting users increased sixfold after the Snowden Disclosures in June 2013. Subsequent studies suggest some ofthis increase was attributable to a Ukrainian botnet connecting to the network (Gehl,2016, p. 1223), however there has been a sustained two-fold increase (amounting to atleast two million daily users) on the network (Tor Project, 2018). Evidently, suchprivacy-enhancing technologies are becoming increasingly popular. [end of partial quote]
Timothy C. May: Libertaria in Cypherspace
https://news.bitcoin.com/timothy-c-may-libertaria-in-cyberspace/ [quote begins] Timothy C. May: Libertaria in Cyberspace Here are a few points about why “cyberspace,” or a computer-mediated network, is more hospitable than physical locations for the kind of “crypto-anarchy” libertarian system I’ve been describing. Several folks have commented recently about ocean-going libertarian havens, supertankers used as data havens, and so forth. In the 1970s, especially, there were several unsuccessful attempts to acquire islands in the Pacific for the site of what some called “Libertaria.” (Some keywords: Vanuatu, Minerva, Mike Oliver, Tonga) Obtaining an entire island is problematic. Getting the consent of the residents is one issue (familiar to those on the this list who weathered the Hurricane Andrew diversion debate). Being allowed to operate by the leading world powers is another… the U.S. has enforced trade embargoes and blockades against many nations in the past several decades, including Cuba, North Korea, Libya, Iran, Iraq, and others. Further, the U.S. has invaded some countries— Panama- is a good example— whose government it disliked. How long would a supertanker “data haven” or libertarian regime last in such an environment? (Stephenson’s fascinating Snow Crash didn’t address the issue of why the “Raft” wasn’t simply sunk by the remaining military forces.) I should note that the recent splintering of countries may provide opportunities for libertarian (or PPL, if you prefer to think of it in this way) regions. Some have speculated that Russia itself is a candidate, given that it has little vested in the previous system and may be willing to abandon statism. If several dozen new countries are formed, some opportunities exist. The basic problem is that physical space is too small, too exposed to the view of others. “Libertaria” in the form of, say, an island, is too exposed to the retaliation of world powers. (I won’t go into the “private nukes” strategy, which I need to think about further.) A floating private nation (or whatever it’s called) is too vulnerable to a single well-placed torpedo. Even if it serves as a kind of Swiss-bank, and thus gets some of the same protection Switzerland got (to wit, many leaders kept their loot there), it is too vulnerable to a single attacker or invader. Piracy will be just one of the problems. Finally, how many of us want to move to a South Pacific island? Or a North Sea oil rig? Or even to Russia? [end of partial quote]
Quantum entanglement demonstrated on tiny CubeSat in orbit
New Atlas: Quantum entanglement demonstrated on tiny CubeSat in orbit. https://newatlas.com/telecommunications/quantum-entanglement-cubesat-spooqy1/
what matters? -- Re: Superseding indictment of Julian Assange as of 6/24/2020
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 09:36:54PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 03:53:01PM -0400, John Young wrote: > > Assange will be sacrificed and discarded by journalists once no longer > > useful. > > This is a long-standing practice to assure official protection and > > privilege. > > Assange once advocated this warning but was eventully coopted by journalists > > who joined his team and pushed the outreach to duplicitous journalism. > > > > Braying about threat to journalism by Assange's prosecution is a deception > > op > > conducted in cooperation with authorities. Snowden's promoters have admitted > > consulting with USG on what to publish, what to redact, what to withhold. > > Barton Gellman describes his following this CYA standard procedure in Dark > > Mirror. > > > > WikiLeaks burned sources with loose security, incoherent management, > > Julian's > > vanity and opportunism, thinking he could use cohorts for his purpose > > without > > penalty. The indictment outlines the parties he enlisted, quite a few likely > > to have decided to cooperate, like Sabu, the "Teenager," maybe Appelbaum, > > others pseudonymed. > > > > Those he has manipulated will turn against him under pressure from > > prosecutors > > against them, their families and friends. Same happened to Manning, Swartz, > > kirakou, Hammond, long list of others. > > > > Snowden will eventually be handed over to USG by those he came to trust the > > most. Trust wears thin over time and goosed by planted suspicions and > > doubts, > > ambition, need for income. And fans are notoriously fickle, don't give a > > shit > > after the excitement wanes, smears are spread, bots and media countermesures > > are unleashed, rewards are offered like Greenwald's "irresistables" > > undergirding The Intercept. > > > > And there is always the AP option for terminating JA. Treachery of > > supporters > > is too. > > > Much true here. > > True men of principle do not suffer greatly for vainglorious ends. Though > some may get caught up in the superficial, we should feel sorry for them on > that count, whilst at the same time upholding principles worthy. > > Manning may have procured her relief from her "double jeopardy" with a (temp) > non-disclosure, yet she remains vigilant to a tee in not "being a dog and > knifing Assange" for her own physical freedom - the loyalty of a champion, > and for the right foundation of righteous principle, so a huge and gracious > -thank you- to Manning! > > Assange had things to learn on his journey it appears - are any of us exempt > from such? Let's not shoot the messenger. Let's take a leaf from Manning's > book of grace and loyalty - if we asked her, would she hesitate to say "punch > up, not down" ? > > Assange was part of a team, and as incoherent and flawed as it may have been, > that team achieved massive wins - never forget that the results, from a > broader perspective have shaken the foundations of empire, with its > relentless revenge mission against Assange still in full swing to this day > after so many years. > > If as you say, Assange 'has manipulated' people on his Wikileaks journey, > just how many more years would -you- keep him locked up in Maxi, how many > more years from now (of Assange in jail), depriving his children of their > father, do you personally say that Assange ought be kept in the slammer in > order to mete out sufficient "justic" in your mind? > > This is a serious and real question to you John (no matter that we are not > the judiciary prosecuting him) - what be your position on the actual pennance > Assange, as you imply, ought pay? > > Yes there are always many options - perhaps we can help to spread the word of > caution, of loyalty, remind folks that ultimate dignity is that in our own > mirrored eyes, before our maker and with none between ... John perhaps the following will resonate. This battle some of us have been in is not "merely against empire," it is a battle for justice, truth, transparency, agency, righteousness, and in too many cases, for life itself (the evils of Barack "Drone-Bama" come to mind for example). "We fight not against men ..." In present times, when a supporter of such actually worthy goals goes in to bat, to support, he may well be surprised to find that "a little genuine support for a good cause" ends up locating him in a battle royale - in fact battle after battle after night of the living dead battle! Some of us have experienced this in wrenching, Soul purifying (hopefully) clarity. And when we appear to battle against "bleedingly obvious" stupidity and uncoordination, incoherency and so many flaws it rips tears from our hearts and eyes, literally, we are too often left desperatery wondering, should we plead to the Gods? Are we doing something wrong in helping? Why do every 5 steps forward seem to result in 4, 5 or 6 steps backwards? Am I able to continue with even tiny
Re: Any Cypherpunk there ?
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 8:28 PM Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 6/26/20 18:19, таракан wrote: > > I am a Mathematician and involved in "industrial" cryptography. > > However, I am interested in the Cypherpunk movement as described by > > the Cypherpunk's manifesto. > > > > I am unsure if this mailing list still relates to the original > > Cypherpunk movement... Obviously it contains many inordinate > > messages containing vulgar terms. > > I'm still scratching my head wondering what flagrant racism, > antisemitism, etc have to do with the cypherpunk movement and/or > securing technology through encryption. I see this behavior that spreads arbitrary blame of groups, and casts the forum to observers as holding such blame prominently, in other open channels on the internet. Is this something you see? I see > the ideal form of the cypherpunk movement as egalitarian, where those of > all ethnicities and backgrounds are treated equally and given the same > chance to participate in beneficial social and political change. Yes, > this specifically includes Jews and people of color, as well as LGBTQ+ > populations and other marginalized groups. > As someone who has participated in stimulating the disruptive behaviors, it is relieving to hear words countering them. Part of me dreams of making a bot to do so. Honestly, if you're going to shut out some people, or use exclusionary > language such as well-recognized slurs that are avoided by people who > use the word "fuck" like they would use salt and pepper on bland food, > then you're no better than the authorities you pretend to hate. United > we stand, divided we fall. > This list is not about harm. Karl Semich > There is proof inside many peoples' electronics. Proof that a marketing group would contract development of a frightening virus. A virus that responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what people see on their devices. A virus that alters political behavior en masse, for profit. >
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Cecilia! I think you just said you're mostly away due to the internet being spotty in hell. (has anybody tried calling cecilia to see what is up more clearly?) Regarding memories, in america a drug is used in surgery that can prevent the proper storage of memories for a bit after surgery. They also keep a controlled drip line into you during the surgery so long as the anesthesiologist is there; it is common practice for the anesthesiologist to prevent remembering things that happen, as surgery is already inherently traumatic to people. I personally hate that, they always forget to say this will happen, or try to use weasel-language to keep doing it if you do not like it, because they are trained that it is kind to do. Obviously there are other ways to forget things too. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 9:21 PM Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > @Karl, I am dead and there is Internet in the Hell. > I don't know what you mean personally for you here, but I have been dead for 6 years now. The angels go to hell and interpret each other as demons. Breaking through that interpretation took years and significantly reduced my suffering. Your soul is invincible and cannot itself be harmed. Only five minutes. Please, I know you are not well at all, but avoid to > complain about everything, and trying so polite, and using the other N > word. Seriously, "nurturing"?! > I talk more caring than many men sometimes. Mostly when upset; it surprises people and is often more direct. Learning around accidentally using that word: it sounds like it is bad to say? Nurturing means helping-with-work: love without sex. I hear you saying that I need to be more careful to keep the flashbacks-behavior off list if I want to contribute here. I'm interested in what you think of the degree of fear in my signature. People need to know if at least I might hack them! Read all the archives to understand the whole drama and internal jokes > instead of acting like me, or I will ask for redemption and my memory of > past - including you! - will be deleted. Much more deleted than my > Telegram messages. Did I mention they delete your messages when you die? > Booowooh!!! ;D > Hey, is reading the archives important here? This list is not my territory and I want to respect it better. Methodical reading is hard. I hope you are well in hell. I took a quick video of only some of our telegram messages (messages which made no sense, to remember the contact by), if you want to recover them to help remember something associated or anything. I'm not sure what you mean here around redemption: you said you're familiar with being harmed and prefer to generally ignore threats, right? Don't trust my behavior with your memories unless you have sent them to me in a file labeled "blockchain this for me please" because I need clear concise instructions to act. Myself, I've had repeated forced memory-removal (timed exposure topic-association-trauma). Maybe that is too gory for the list, but it's not something you ever hear anyone reference, really. I don't remember ever discussing it before. (intentional joke) ...but the "Wild West" metaphor still being used in 2020 is so decadent and > old that hurts my heart... ugh! :-/ > Thank you for speaking up on this. You are kind. I am confident hell will heal, but worried for you. Karl There is proof inside many peoples' electronics. Proof that a marketing group would contract development of a frightening virus. A virus that responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what people see on their devices. A virus that alters political behavior en masse, for profit.
Re: Any Cypherpunk there ?
On 6/27/20 06:10, Bob Hettinga wrote: > Was Tim May. > > I suggest you go find him in the Usenet and cypherpunk archives, and > read what he said himself. I'm familiar with what he said. I believe it more likely than not that he would roll over in his grave over the antisemitic and racist cesspool this list has become over the past few years. > Come back after you’ve uncurled your hair. My hair is straight, always has been. -- Shawn K. Quinn http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com
Re: Any Cypherpunk there ?
> On Jun 26, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > the ideal form of the cypherpunk Was Tim May. I suggest you go find him in the Usenet and cypherpunk archives, and read what he said himself. Come back after you’ve uncurled your hair. Cheers, RAH Who was lit on fire a time or two here, himself, Itellyawhut…
Re: Any Cypherpunk there ?
On 6/26/20 23:30,
Re: Any Cypherpunk there ?
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, June 26, 2020 11:54 PM, таракан wrote: ... > My understanding of Cypherpunks is - as per their Manifesto - that they are > trying to build privacy in a world where privacy is becoming a crime. > > I thought recently that the biggest 'weapon' against a fascism regime would > be to create the inability for that fascist regime to track, locate, monitor > and spy someone. in the words of every hacker ever: "What's your threat model?" nation state attackers are fairly infallible, unless you're personally gifted and/or well resourced... > I walk in the street right now. Nobody knows who I am. check out Clearview AI - and remember this is a commercial, non-classified effort! E.g.: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/technology/clearview-privacy-facial-recognition.html , https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/clearview-app-privacy-1.5447420 > My neighbor doesn't know my name. I rent a flat without any ID. Nobody knows > my name. finding the friendly landlord landlady who likes cash, month to month, is great. not that digital payments are not cash equivalents, however! > My SIM card isn't linked to any ID (true). check out "The Find", and other techniques that are designed to work against burner phones; they attack pattern of life data exhaust across all cell tower radios in addition to targeted attacks against specific baseband chipsets of "selected" targets > My credit card isn't my own credit card but belongs to someone who doesn't > know me really. I get paid in Bitcoins. I go to a local shop and get cash > against BTC without showing any ID. next up, employ a mixer / tumbler when transacting BTC to avoid deanonymization attacks against the network itself. :P E.g. https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver , etc... > My phone cannot track me because it hasn'\t a GPS and so on ... note that tower based triangulation is nearly as effective as GPS, in terms of geolocation privacy risk. > I know that with the time that sort of life will be harder and harder. Hence > I feel it is a noble task to build a system where people can live a normal > life and stay anonymous - as they want. indeed! as mentioned before: first deploy encryption to kill passive Eve's ears. then keying Hardened end-to-end to avoid active Mallory in the Middle. finally, harden Physical Security against burglary and rubber brutes... > Interesting enough soon there will be Quantum crypto, and maybe NSA has > already it. > How long can we trust these good old programs such as PGP? RSA wouldn't last > a long time against a quantum computer ... side benefit of privacy enhancing technologies like Fully Homomorphic Encryption: they're resistant to quantum attacks (e,g. Post-Quantum ready crypto :) C.f.: https://github.com/homenc/HElib , https://github.com/IBM/fhe-toolkit-macos , etc. best regards,
