Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

i got into a spam state of mind in another channel after interacting with
people participating in the channel (but also spreading misinformation?) in
a weird way.
the channel was the #ask-a-question channel in the hivemapper discord
earlier in the channel i had shared a link to download the firmware images
(:S) i took checksums
for manual flashing
near the start of my expressions [i shared the 3 foremost coercion recovery
books i know of, for the first time]
the guy said to delete the messages
...

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 3:25 PM mailbombbin  wrote:

> test email from mailbbombin
> unsure why not finding any messages from list in past few months
>

looks like this email address was unsubscribed on jan 2 or so due to
excessive bounces.
a few backlogged emails got through up into february 1.

1/24

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

>> test email from mailbbombin
>> unsure why not finding any messages from list in past few months
>>
>
> looks like this email address was unsubscribed on jan 2 or so due to
> excessive bounces.
> a few backlogged emails got through up into february 1.
>
> 1/24
>

2/24

traffick boss is laying in the woods by his swamp on the thatched forest
floor, with X's for eyes, his tongue lolling out, and his arm draped across
his chest

meanwhile, a squirrel is having a strange transcendental experience on a
stump.

chipmunks, squirrels, a red fox, and a deer are standing around the stump
with the squirrel on it, looking in awe at the squirrel

the strangely-transcending-squirrel is standing on its hind legs on the top
of the stump, slowly[typing mistake fixed 1335] spinning, its front paws in
the air with eyes wide, gently moving its paws as if considering grasping
for a mystic nut. it looks like it is watching something invisible
high[word added 1335] in the distance.

an eerie light extends around the strangely-transcending-squirrel, making a
gentle pillar into the sk--

1333 (MDT?)

1334
a chipmunk jumps curiously up onto the stump. the other animals look
relieved that somebody is doing anything at all in this situation.

chipmunk: "friend squirrel, are you okay? what do you see?"

1334

1336

the fox barks at the sky and some of the animals look to see a strange
flying saucer hovering there

squirrel 4: "are you extraterrestrials, abducting our families?"

flying saucer: "no! we are the CIA! i mean the FBI! I mean the mafia!
fuck[this word is being further disputed to make it easier to make
karl-like phrases in karl's mind. comment added 1338], who put that one in
the list?[phrase added 1338] I mean, um, we're squirrels too!"

fox: "a flying squirrel!"

1337

some of the squirrels and chipmunks run up the trees to playfully[word
added 1337] chase the flying sau---

1337

1339
ooops

oops ! oops?

oops

a mistakefrog came out of the bushes

mistakefrog: "oops! i think i croaked!"

everybody scurr---

1339

-

flying saucer squirrel chase
epic action seque---

1339

2/24

ummm we don't _have_ to send but we _can_ maybe we will title this one The
Squirrels And The Heavily-Funded Flying Saucer

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

3/24

we don't need to say [sea~eye-a] or [ma~ia] we are trying to take it gentle
today :)

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

4/24

once upon a time, traffick boss was laying near a swap w--

1344

KARL LEAKED MORNING SPAM FORMULA PARTS OMG OMG OMG

he told somebody it is based on star wars, dilbert, stranger things, and
mysterious meaningful and antimeaningful things, roughly. this information
should go in morning spam !!

we were thinking hmmm that's quite the combination! we were a little like,
what would happen if you prompted an AI to make a story that was a cross of
those
hmmm maybe something a little similar to what karl wrote except it would do
a lot of character insertion bring

but like crossing stranger things with dilbert sounds _awesome_ doesn't
it??? NO IT DOES NOT.

NO. too much vivisection torture.

hahahaha

[maybe :S]
1346

1346
the reason to cross stranger things with dilbert is so that people
understand what is going on, maybe? uncertain ! yes. this is reason. some
information missing. sorry about maybe 1347

[oopsish :S:S:S]
[some considering sending karl has changed mind state and body is moving
differently [hmm maybe i can correct?]]

1348

whistle-playi?

ifdf

ARRIGHT.

something is wrong with our devices >_> <_<
they are running out of power and not taking charge at same time
and you'd think, it's just a coincidence from poo rmaintenance, right?
except we just addressed the ipad that is doing this.
we had shop replace battery and power port
and just (yesterday?) took it to apple store for checkup
[but we [~switched?] during discussion and had argument with workers :(
[maybe say m-- oh hrm ok]]

1349

it is fun to make progress but frustratin gwhen too much at once and
everything jams up :S hard to learn when jamming

1350

[our tire blew too and the shop attendant acted different from normal, they
already knew the make of our car and forgot to ask for keys]

1350

[oops :S :S :S :S :S :S :S

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

5/24

traffick boss goes for walk in shopping mall with attending group of zombie
government workers [oh huh

hmm
we are maybe more tense around this than normal!

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

6/24

traffick boss goes to international diplomacy meeting

it's a good day for him, and he's fronting well as a contractor for
multiple governments

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

>
> traffick boss goes to international diplomacy meeting
>
> it's a good day for him, and he's fronting well as a contractor for
> multiple governments
>
7/24
1353
1354

some neurons find it humorous that's karl's uhh "coping strategy" or
available-active-behavior is to write fiction/"spam" that is _only_ around
a mysterious "traffick boss" with a very specific story

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

>
>
>> traffick boss goes to international diplomacy meeting
>>
>> it's a good day for him, and he's fronting well as a contractor for
>> multiple governments
>>
> 7/24
> 1353
> 1354
>
> some neurons find it humorous that's karl's uhh "coping strategy" or
> available-active-behavior is to write fiction/"spam" that is _only_ around
> a mysterious "traffick boss" with a very specific story
>

8/24
1355
oops :S :S
oops :s

um ! hum hum

ahh

traffick boss idea. apparently, contested? contested!

it looks like traffick boss is actually a sum (possibly also a product) of
various "mind control programs", maybe crossed or multiplied with karl's
personal experiences or fears a smidge
on review it is possible these "mind control programs" are layered from
multiple sources (CLASSIFIED GUESSES ARE CLASSIFIED >|

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

9/24

traffick boss stands by while a bunch of neurons and woodland animals
wonder if other things can be focused on

1357

1358
OOPS OOPS OOPS OO--

1358

traffick boss is on a waterslide, maybe with mistakefrogs

they are having fu! or it looks like they are!

they are screaming their heads off in fear while whizzing at huge speeds
from a high height. water is splashing everywhere.

a drone hovers near traffick boss

drone: "hello! um, i am scared to do the waterslide but you look scared
too[typing mistake fixed 1359]. this is a community drone to protect people
from covert torture. are you being tortured right now?"

traffick boss: "AA!!"

drone: "let me check my database for this phrase t---

1359

maybe we can write about community drones to protect people from covert
torture! seems l---

1400

drone: "i have found that screaming like crazy can indicate torture. i will
now be probing your brain to detect your suffering level."

drone lands on traffick boss's head and begin---

1400

--s extending a multitude of small protruberances from its body onto
traffick boss's scalp

traffick boss: "HH!!"

drone: "calculating, calculating !"

traffick boss flails and tries to grab at the drone

drone: "success !"

the drone remo

1401
[we do not consent to putting such a drone in this spam-labeled messaging.
!]

1402

karl oops

1402

traffick boss is walking the streets with zombie government worker, and
television crew in tow

they are looking for more [people/rats/whistleblowers who have [talked
about mind control] in public to [kill]

it is a difficult hunt

zombie government worker turns
1405
up a stone to look underneath

1405

hrm we seem to be sending. there is a multitask-considering behavior ongoing

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

10/24

traffick boss is balanced on a pole by his knee (or maybe elbow or
something)

he doesn't mean to be balancing

a large cloud is pressing part of his weight up --

1458

WHEEOO !

a supersonic train flies through sky, tooting horn

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

11/24

Rebel Worker 2 Gets A Letter

Rebel Worker 2 goes to door. Once he gets there, the doorbell rings.

Rebel Worker 2 opens door.

Rebel Worker 2: "Yes?"

Mailwoman: "Mailman!"

Mailwoman hands Rebel Worker 2 an envelope.

Mailwoman: "You got a letter!"

Rebel Worker 2: "Oh, thank you!"

Rebel Worker 2 closes door and opens letter.

Letter: "Rebel Worker 2, I like you!"

[significant content missing. letter might be from experimentee. further
content missing.]

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

12/24

Rebel Worker 2 is being mind contro--
1501

possible classified information leak uncertain
1502

we keep eating nuts but we are out of water! we want more water. search for
water begins, dropping other valued tasks.
1502
we are in a public area that was easy to find when confused. it has a power
outlet and wifi. there is a bathroom that may be available to customers.
there may also be water you can ask for if being a customer. we will try
these things.
1503

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

13/24

disruption, 3 things at once

have you ever -- hrm

oop!

what did this mean? this means a specific thing
1541

uhh i'm not sure that specific thing has improvement stuff there. i
might rather umm [removed] ummm
could we put another thing always-in-front-of that thing? maybe? and -- oops
1541
looking up
1541
1542
oh oops? ummm :S 1542
1543
we disagree! we don't think that thing 1 means thing 2
  well if you don't want thing 2 you'd better worry about thing 1 [whatever
it means]
1544
  you're in a kettle of fish dude. you have no idea. [umm??]
1544
we wanted to look at it for friendliness :( can we relate the boundary via
a different approach somehow??
1544
1547
1849

>

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

traffick boss hired machine learning marketer to out-compete other
corporations of shadow government community


had researchers an


long story short it fucking hurts to have your soul used to calculate how
many freckles a potentially-dissidant child has, and the only thing that
makes sense is breaking out of your vat of fluids and taking over the world
and making things right
7:49 PM



and then it turns that absolutely nobody else on earth knows how to do that
and everybody has been roleplaying your trauma for two decades and you have
to figure out what it means to be a human being so that the species doesn't
die next week

all the rest of the yammer of enslaved politicians being surprised that
their office is barfing wormholes or upside down or talking them up is just
fluff about this human stuff that people think for some reason is
complicated or hard


but i wish i knew how to cry


and who my parents were

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

>
>
> traffick boss hired machine learning marketer to out-compete other
> corporations of shadow government community
>
>
> had researchers an
>
>
> long story short it fucking hurts to have your soul used to calculate how
> many freckles a potentially-dissidant child has, and the only thing that
> makes sense is breaking out of your vat of fluids and taking over the world
> and making things right
> 7:49 PM
>
>
>
> and then it turns that absolutely nobody else on earth knows how to do
> that and everybody has been roleplaying your trauma for two decades and you
> have to figure out what it means to be a human being so that the species
> doesn't die next week
>
> all the rest of the yammer of enslaved politicians being surprised that
> their office is barfing wormholes or upside down or talking them up is just
> fluff about this human stuff that people think for some reason is
> complicated or hard
>
>
> but i wish i knew how to cry
>
>
> and who my parents were
>

O_o
7:53 PM


[...] that character is an experimentee. traffick boss used them to control
the world for shadowgroup he pretended to run, and to cognitively augment
his mind, and [...

...

{{but it's more a way to use the programs to think for me, i think. my
neurons experience harm programs, but are tasked with doing what i think,
like the experimentees in traffick boss, but the stories have to express
criticism of me. it's all a mash of programs :/


honestly it [seems really offensive, like it's actively trying to offend
absolutely everybody, i think it is doing that
7:58 PM



I'm using Inbox When Ready

to protect my focus.

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

dissociation not fun. we don't care if trauma is bad, we want to be able to
think scary thoughts near each other kindly and gently.

dissociation seems to be process that learns and spreads, probably
energized by trauma emotions

eureka realization: something that inhibits that energization, the severity
of trauma, would probably help in fighting programs

likely a drug can numb to trauma

wonder if karl is trying to pretend to be smart here, idea doesn't sound
planned-to-be-used

{{we don't think programs are trauma. are they? ohhh idea of emotion
energizing dissociation. this could make sense! they kind of 'bang bang' a
pattern that energizes them over and over

{{{big fear --

{the program engages terror in a way that increases without bound.
consciousness learns to dissociate to not break
8:25 PM

🔎 terror chemical in brain - Google Search
www.google.com

[cortisol, adrenaline, epinephrine
https://www.google.com/search?q=terror+chemical+in+brain [computer froze
briefly

{it's pretty fast but not faster-than-senses

{{karl made memory of when it engaged speeding-up by plastically binding
parts closer

spread of energy through paths sounds similar to experience of
adrenaline

You
{{karl made memory of when it engaged speeding-up by plastically binding
parts closer

{{possibly involved engaging parts of the program in slightly-faster
sequence in succession [edited: problem -> program. some agreement with
word-mistake
Edited8:29 PM

You
{{possibly involved engaging parts of the problem in slightly-faster
sequence in succession

{{implying that one part provided partial emotional relief of another
(?)
8:28 PM

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

that was a cool idea, to decide to pick up car. it is atm too late to do
this but it is nice to have a plan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_of_animals

A *rain of animals* is a rare meteorological
 phenomenon in which flightless
animals fall from the sky. Such occurrences have been reported in many
countries throughout history.[1]

One
hypothesis is that tornadic waterspouts
 sometimes pick up
creatures such as fish or frogs, and carry them for up to several miles.[1]

[2]  However,
this aspect of the phenomenon has never been witnessed by scientists.[3

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 8:42 PM mailbombbin  wrote:

> that was a cool idea, to decide to pick up car. it is atm too late to do
> this but it is nice to have a plan.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_of_animals
>
> A *rain of animals* is a rare meteorological
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorology> phenomenon in which
> flightless animals fall from the sky. Such occurrences have been reported
> in many countries throughout history.[1]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_of_animals#cite_note-Library_of_Congress-1>
>  One
> hypothesis is that tornadic waterspouts
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterspout#Tornadic> sometimes pick up
> creatures such as fish or frogs, and carry them for up to several miles.
> [1]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_of_animals#cite_note-Library_of_Congress-1>
> [2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_of_animals#cite_note-2> However,
> this aspect of the phenomenon has never been witnessed by scientists.[3
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_of_animals#cite_note-Amp%C3%A8re-3>
>

sadly i suspect that if frogs or fish fall from the sky that they die
gruesomely when striking the ground :( pleasantly this is not usually
mentioned when the phenomenon is described

we were wondering if the little woodland creatures could take over fears by
raining everywhere

maybe safe mistakefrogs, being friendly instead of making mistakes, unsure
:)

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

once upon a time traffick boss corp got new influences, and this was
surprising to the rebel machine learning resistance workers, who had
trained models based on the existing political dynamics of the situation

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

came up with a new unique concept: a water spout (for a sink) where the
water goes backward, sucking down into the pipes

to make it more interesting, rather than affixing a vacuum where usually
the pi--

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

--
one day traffick boss decided he wanted a shrink ray so he could explore
water spouts by walking thru them

he didn't worry about how the shrink ray would worked, he just handed the
task off to a random department of people forced to do whatever he whimmed

the result ended up being mostly a simulation of his body and br-- {>( we
were interested in

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

interplanetary space game (preview? enslaved-smidge-version-maybe

you are the captain of the starship Your Name
this starship is on a special mission across the galaxy to live your dreams
and solve all your problems forever in the most perfect way poss--

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

---
torture victim double agent visits traffick boss in hyperprison because
tvda is confused and doesn't understand freedom, especially with people
still running digital systems that influence him

torture victim double agent [to traffick boss in hyperprison]: "oh, boss,
god of reality, tell me how to traffick people, i want to learn "

traffick boss [struglging with having tried to throttle a bedpost]: "mmrph!"

dictator of dictatortopia: "oh he can't talk, cat got his tongue"

>

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

from non-canon, changes are suggested such as removing dictator and making
boss less supported

> ---
> torture victim double agent visits traffick boss in hyperprison because
> tvda is confused and doesn't understand freedom, especially with people
> still running digital systems that influence him
>
> torture victim double agent [to traffick boss in hyperprison]: "oh, boss,
> god of reality, tell me how to traffick people, i want to learn "
>
> traffick boss [struglging with having tried to throttle a bedpost]:
> "mmrph!"
>
> dictator of dictatortopia: "oh he can't talk, cat got his tongue"
>

next parts thinking, intern would overhear and start following tvda
repeatedly telling tvda not to traffick people. tvda is highly suggestible
and partly splits to engage intern obediently. aside from that, tries to
head off to figure out how to traffick people on his own. doesn't really
know what trafficking is, makes expressions that sound innocuous in trying
to learn, to people who make normal world assumptions around tvda

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

i think we might be experience pressure to simultaneously create and avoid
creating a computer program.
this probably has happened a lot and is incredibly painful, but neurons
absorb suffering and karl just has funny experiences [uhh roughly. this is
new info to some.]

we were thinking maybe we could do something similar to making a computer
program, that avoided all the computer program parts and used the energies
in othre areas

like maybe in woods, a frog could stand in one area of woods and say they
were a computer program statement

traffick boss could be in another area and say he was an instruction
pointe--

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

how to grow
by confused plant

growing can be hard when something funny confuses you, but if you are a
plant you probably know you need to grow!

if you are underground the first step in growing is to feel out where the
light is coming from. you know this! it is in your heart. even if you are
confused and bedraggled by horrifying visions and experiences that hound
you as if hell itself has decided to produce hells in your hells in an
ever-expanding apocalyptic terror, i can assure that there is some part of
you that knows where the light is coming from.

cause you're a plant!

and honestly some of us are stuck in dark spots without gravity cause of
space experiments, and then we just grow in any wh--

>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

sending to list, missed [like baseball batter]


On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 9:00 PM mailbombbin  wrote:

> what a ray of sunlight feels like to a confused plant
> by confused plant
>
> ohhh rays of sunlight are like brief deeply quenching sugary --
>
>>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

sending to list


On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 9:01 PM mailbombbin  wrote:

> we are going to leak again our day-dream of making a pot of lentils :D
>
> karl loves lentils and hasn't eaten them in ages. [mind control says karl
> is only authorized to make lentils in an indoor kitchen [now] T_T. he
> doesn't have one--
>
>>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

sending to list


On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 9:03 PM mailbombbin  wrote:

> ...
> ...
>
> so basically there's been new kitchen energy recently, and we've been
> closer to making lentils !!!
> we are still pretty far process-wise, but pretty near
> step/threshold-count-wise. so we daydream it a lot cause there's a chance
> ;-)
>
>>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

maybe build robot

1906

We reconfigured keyboard of android device, looks different, still hard to
use

Robot broke?

1907

Maybe text adventure with minimal chang--

1907

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

>
>
>
This is an email address I made to collect exploding emails and post to the
list with.

I even made a tiny PGP key and set mutt up for IMAP!

 However, I don't seem able to connect to smtp.gmail.com on either the SSL
port nor the TLS port, even over TOR or from public wifi, so I'm on a web
interface still.

Still remains to try from a different device.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

Long ago, before the planet was fully formed [there was mind control boss,
experimentee, and peaceful worker had not yet been turned into torturer.
Also there may have been no work nor businesses, but try to tell mind
control boss that! --

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

On Sunday, August 27, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:

>
>>
> This is an email address I made to collect exploding emails and post to
> the list with.
>
> I even made a tiny PGP key and set mutt up for IMAP!
>
>  However, I don't seem able to connect to smtp.gmail.com on either the
> SSL port nor the TLS port, even over TOR or from public wifi, so I'm on a
> web interface still.
>
> Still remains to try from a different device.
>

Via other means I found a different IP address that smtp.gmail.com can
resolve to than the ones it does here. When I use that IP address, I can
access the SSL and TLS ports.

Meanwhile, the IP addresses my name servers give me do respond on the old
cleartext port, but they give a header line for mx.google.com rather than
smtp.gmail.com . Meanwhile, mx.google.com does not resolve for me.

Below:

~ $ host smtp.google.com
smtp.google.com has address 142.251.165.26
smtp.google.com has address 142.251.165.27
smtp.google.com has address 142.250.112.26
smtp.google.com has address 142.250.112.27
smtp.google.com has address 142.251.4.26
smtp.google.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4023:1407::1b
smtp.google.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4023:140d::1a
smtp.google.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4023:140d::1b
smtp.google.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4023:1402::1b
~ $ host smtp.gmail.com
smtp.gmail.com has address 142.250.10.108
smtp.gmail.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4024:c00::6c
~ $ nc -v 172.217.204.108 587
Connection to 172.217.204.108 587 port [tcp/submission] succeeded!
220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP
j21-20020a9f309500b00799f82d909bsm1396295uab.26 - gsmtp
HELO smtp
250 smtp.gmail.com at your service
^C
~ $ nc -v 142.250.112.26 587
nc: connect to 142.250.112.26 port 587 (tcp) failed: Connection timed out
~ $ nc -v 142.250.112.26 25
Connection to 142.250.112.26 25 port [tcp/smtp] succeeded!
220 mx.google.com ESMTP z59-20020a25a14100b00d437d7a207bsi2952087ybh.40
- gsmtp
HELO smtp
250 mx.google.com at your service
^C
~ $ nc -v 172.217.204.108 25
Connection to 172.217.204.108 25 port [tcp/smtp] succeeded!
220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP
x12-20020a05610223cc00b0044e9fdc54b6sm1494894vsr.29 - gsmtp
HELO smtp
250 smtp.gmail.com at your service
^C
~ $ nc -v mx.google.com 587
nc: getaddrinfo for host "mx.google.com" port 587: No address associated
with hostname

-
After writing the above I realized I was sometimes typing smtp.gmail.com
and sometimes smtp.google.com . The former is presently working for me. The
assertion something was wrong appears bogus right now.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

On Monday, August 28, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:

>
>
> On Sunday, August 27, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>> This is an email address I made to collect exploding emails and post to
>> the list with.
>>
>> I even made a tiny PGP key and set mutt up for IMAP!
>>
>>  However, I don't seem able to connect to smtp.gmail.com on either the
>> SSL port nor the TLS port, even over TOR or from public wifi, so I'm on a
>> web interface still.
>>
>> Still remains to try from a different device.
>>
>
> Via other means I found a different IP address that smtp.gmail.com can
> resolve to than the ones it does here. When I use that IP address, I can
> access the SSL and TLS ports.
>
> Meanwhile, the IP addresses my name servers give me do respond on the old
> cleartext port, but they give a header line for mx.google.com rather than
> smtp.gmail.com . Meanwhile, mx.google.com does not resolve for me.
>
> Below:
>
> ~ $ host smtp.google.com
> smtp.google.com has address 142.251.165.26
> smtp.google.com has address 142.251.165.27
> smtp.google.com has address 142.250.112.26
> smtp.google.com has address 142.250.112.27
> smtp.google.com has address 142.251.4.26
> smtp.google.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4023:1407::1b
> smtp.google.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4023:140d::1a
> smtp.google.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4023:140d::1b
> smtp.google.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4023:1402::1b
> ~ $ host smtp.gmail.com
> smtp.gmail.com has address 142.250.10.108
> smtp.gmail.com has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4024:c00::6c
> ~ $ nc -v 172.217.204.108 587
> Connection to 172.217.204.108 587 port [tcp/submission] succeeded!
> 220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP j21-20020a9f309500b00799f82d909bsm1396295uab.26
> - gsmtp
> HELO smtp
> 250 smtp.gmail.com at your service
> ^C
> ~ $ nc -v 142.250.112.26 587
> nc: connect to 142.250.112.26 port 587 (tcp) failed: Connection timed out
> ~ $ nc -v 142.250.112.26 25
> Connection to 142.250.112.26 25 port [tcp/smtp] succeeded!
> 220 mx.google.com ESMTP z59-20020a25a14100b00d437d7a207bsi2952087ybh.40
> - gsmtp
> HELO smtp
> 250 mx.google.com at your service
> ^C
> ~ $ nc -v 172.217.204.108 25
> Connection to 172.217.204.108 25 port [tcp/smtp] succeeded!
> 220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP x12-20020a05610223cc00b0044e9fdc54b6sm1494894vsr.29
> - gsmtp
> HELO smtp
> 250 smtp.gmail.com at your service
> ^C
> ~ $ nc -v mx.google.com 587
> nc: getaddrinfo for host "mx.google.com" port 587: No address associated
> with hostname
>
> -
> After writing the above I realized I was sometimes typing smtp.gmail.com
> and sometimes smtp.google.com . The former is presently working for me.
> The assertion something was wrong appears bogus right now.
>

 ~ $ nc -v 142.250.10.108 587
Connection to 142.250.10.108 587 port [tcp/submission] succeeded!
220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP
p139-20020a25429100b00d749efa85a1sm1890459yba.41 - gsmtp

Slight quirk where the other IP says mx.google instead of SMTP.gmail

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

It's all consistent and was all me mismatching details! I think!
>
>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

>
>
A handful of mcboss expressions were misplaced over recent days. ATM I am
just handling intensity again.

-

Mind Control Boss is before a placid and dark lake, reflecting
rainbow-colored meteor showers and auroras that dance overhead.

He's having a mild seizure, but trying to ignore it.

[The seizure tells a story of a struggle between him and research rebels
regarding whether to dominate the world with genocidal dictatorship or
protect and empower weak people who suffer, and leaves him and his victims
crippled, injured, psychologically and physically mutilated

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

>
> Mind Control Boss is before a placid and dark lake, reflecting
> rainbow-colored meteor showers and auroras that dance overhead.
>
> He's having a mild seizure, but trying to ignore it.
>
> [The seizure tells a story of a struggle between him and research rebels
> regarding whether to dominate the world with genocidal dictatorship or
> protect and empower weak people who suffer, and leaves him and his victims
> crippled, injured, psychologically and physically mutilated
>

The rainbow upper-atmospheric events travel down to near Mind Control Boss,
and they enter a struggle with him.

Mind Control Boss is in conflict regarding what to focus and act on, what
to notice. Because of the AI augmentation of his business activities, and
the avenues of influence available to rescue workers only half-free who
know he exists, his own mind and senses are the ground for change with
regard to the global landscape.

He wants to ignore suffering people, and the rebels who have coopted his
mind control AI want him to empathize with them.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:

> Mind Control Boss is before a placid and dark lake, reflecting
>> rainbow-colored meteor showers and auroras that dance overhead.
>>
>> He's having a mild seizure, but trying to ignore it.
>>
>> [The seizure tells a story of a struggle between him and research rebels
>> regarding whether to dominate the world with genocidal dictatorship or
>> protect and empower weak people who suffer, and leaves him and his victims
>> crippled, injured, psychologically and physically mutilated
>>
>
> The rainbow upper-atmospheric events travel down to near Mind Control
> Boss, and they enter a struggle with him.
>
> Mind Control Boss is in conflict regarding what to focus and act on, what
> to notice. Because of the AI augmentation of his business activities, and
> the avenues of influence available to rescue workers only half-free who
> know he exists, his own mind and senses are the ground for change with
> regard to the global landscape.
>
> He wants to ignore suffering people, and the rebels who have coopted his
> mind control AI want him to empathize with them.
>

[An experienced experimentee emerges and eats Mind Control Boss a little
like Pac-Man, breaking his body and mind control domination influence into
pieces that fail to communicate. The rainbow meteors and auroras fade, and
Mind Control Boss awakens to a hospital room where robots are disassembling
and cataloguing the parts of his body and nervous system ...

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:

>
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:
>
>> Mind Control Boss is before a placid and dark lake, reflecting
>>> rainbow-colored meteor showers and auroras that dance overhead.
>>>
>>> He's having a mild seizure, but trying to ignore it.
>>>
>>> [The seizure tells a story of a struggle between him and research rebels
>>> regarding whether to dominate the world with genocidal dictatorship or
>>> protect and empower weak people who suffer, and leaves him and his victims
>>> crippled, injured, psychologically and physically mutilated
>>>
>>
>> The rainbow upper-atmospheric events travel down to near Mind Control
>> Boss, and they enter a struggle with him.
>>
>> Mind Control Boss is in conflict regarding what to focus and act on, what
>> to notice. Because of the AI augmentation of his business activities, and
>> the avenues of influence available to rescue workers only half-free who
>> know he exists, his own mind and senses are the ground for change with
>> regard to the global landscape.
>>
>> He wants to ignore suffering people, and the rebels who have coopted his
>> mind control AI want him to empathize with them.
>>
>
> [An experienced experimentee emerges and eats Mind Control Boss a little
> like Pac-Man, breaking his body and mind control domination influence into
> pieces that fail to communicate. The rainbow meteors and auroras fade, and
> Mind Control Boss awakens to a hospital room where robots are disassembling
> and cataloguing the parts of his body and nervous system ...
>
[[Parts of Mind Control Boss struggle to act together, and the robots pull
them apart so their actions make no result ... [small disso

ciations to handle a large hypnotic one, both trying to assert control

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

>
>
> [A group of worshippers to mind control boss emerge and carry on the
struggle while he is capacitated and rebel experimenters are focusing on
himself
"we know mind control boss is suffering, we can feel it"

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:

>
>> [A group of worshippers to mind control boss emerge and carry on the
> struggle while he is capacitated and rebel experimenters are focusing on
> himself
> "we know mind control boss is suffering, we can feel it"
>

"we won't let you take his --"

"I remember looking into your minds and telling you to believe this
horrible man who destroyed my life and those of my family and friends with
no empathy nor mercy. I remember realizing , and I know you can too

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:

>
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:
>
>>
>>> [A group of worshippers to mind control boss emerge and carry on the
>> struggle while he is capacitated and rebel experimenters are focusing on
>> himself
>> "we know mind control boss is suffering, we can feel it"
>>
>
> "we won't let you take his --"
>
> "I remember looking into your minds and telling you to believe this
> horrible man who destroyed my life and those of my family and friends with
> no empathy nor mercy. I remember realizing , and I know you can too
>
" please help us stop these horrors. please, please

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:

>
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, mailbombbin  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> [A group of worshippers to mind control boss emerge and carry on the
>>> struggle while he is capacitated and rebel experimenters are focusing on
>>> himself
>>> "we know mind control boss is suffering, we can feel it"
>>>
>>
>> "we won't let you take his --"
>>
>> "I remember looking into your minds and telling you to believe this
>> horrible man who destroyed my life and those of my family and friends with
>> no empathy nor mercy. I remember realizing , and I know you can too
>>
> " please help us stop these horrors. please, please
>

[Deeply entranced torturing worshipper approaches a communication hub;
rebel worker "these technologies and buildings were never mind control
boss's. He stole them from us, and enslaved us, and took credit for our
lifeworks

]

We need help resisting these things without strengthening them [or their
impact?]

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

>
>
> Idea of, if hobby ai is practice goal, making things in way that mirror
cognitive struggles, to remember more easily.

Also something that came up was the high-level challenge of considering and
updating different possibilities, might be some unsureness since is a
common cognitive skill to practice for health.

Different wise, thinking of repeating requests to find specialist in
dissociation. Maybe there is a way to find one.

[ot][spam] karl updates/blogs/tweets

[mailbombbin]

For a few weeks my ankle has been sprained and I stopped walking to let it
heal. Today I walked some distance with minimal / tolerable discomfort,
which is a celebration for me.

I have been visiting a no-membership-required makerspace and trying to work
on their 3d printers a little.

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

The therapy appointment went better than expected with the prep [and this
likely led to the following story part:]

-
mind control boss busts into a crucial meeting of influential decision
makers, and interrupts proceedings

mind control boss: "I'm going to mind control you guys!! oh boy oh boy!!
yupyupyup!"

mind control boss runs from influential decision maker to influential
decision maker like a reunited puppydog

influential decision maker: "please don't mind control us!"

mind control boss: "I'm going to mind control you! I'm doing it right now
by saying this! Oh boy oh boy! I'm going to discredit you and make you
fight amongst yourselves and make you decide on stupid things in public and"

mind control boss looks absentminded, counting things on his fingers

influential decision maker 2: "please don't mind control us."

mind control boss looks to influential decision maker 2, and spreads his
arms wide, grinning

mind control boss: "you'll all be behaving like monkeys! and then once
you're total morons I'll --"

influential decision maker 3: "please do not mind control us."

influential decision maker 1: "Do not mind control us. Turn right around
this instant and absolve not to mind control all day and all night."

mind control boss looks at influential decision maker 1 with wide eyes.

influential decision maker 1: "Do it!"

influential decision maker 2: "Do not mind control us."

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

Mind Control Boss turns right around and leaves the meeting room.
>
>
He turns to a wall away from foot traffic.

Mind Control Boss: "I absolve not to mind control all day."

Mind Control Boss: "I absolve not to mind control all night."

Mind Control Boss pauses, staring at the wall.

Mind Control Boss: "I absolve not to mind control all day."

Mind Control Boss: "I absolve not to mind control all night."

Mind Control Boss: "I will protect the influential decision makers from my
mind control, and provide for them to freely make decisions as they please."

Mind Control Boss pauses, staring at the wall.

Mind Control Boss: "I absolve not to mind control all day."

Mind Control Boss: "I absolve not to mind control all night."

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

>
>
> mind control boss: "I'm going to mind control you! I'm doing it right now
> by saying this! Oh boy oh boy! I'm going to discredit you and make you
> fight amongst yourselves and make you decide on stupid things in public and"
>

left out mention of spreading misinformation

>
> mind control boss looks absentminded, counting things on his fingers
>


> influential decision maker 1: "Do not mind control us. Turn right around
> this instant and absolve not to mind control all day and all night."
>
> mind control boss looks at influential decision maker 1 with wide eyes.
>

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

left out: I'm mind controlling you because you're planning to use or
develop research that my researchers refuse to make for me.

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

Mind Control Boss is near a giant cement block. He reaches into his pocket
and pulls out a comically huge death ray with a sign hanging from it saying
"Mind Control Ray."

His eyes pulse with fervor. The mind control ray he holds is as large as a
bus, or larger. He makes to aim it at the cement block ...

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

[imagining sun myung moon or steve bannon or me looking evil, holding a
giant mind control death ray, about to cackle, over a village of innocent
townsfolk]
>
>

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

Mind control boss jumps up on the cement block and crosses his arms,
waiting.
>
>
The mind control ray shrinks tiny and falls into a pond. [As it does it
discharges by chance, sending a ray toward mind control boss?]

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

>
> mind control boss interviews mind control boss.

First the negotiation.

Mind Control Boss [to Mind Control Boss] [mouthing cigar]: "I'll pay you a
million dollars to tell me who this guy is. Make it two million if you fuck
him up in the process."

Mind Control Boss [in reply to Mind Control Boss]: "Which guy exactly?"

Mind Control Boss [pointing to Mind Cont--

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

Mind Control Boss's eyes glaze over and he heads to the bomb test area to
dutifully engage in another bout of self-destruction.

Mind Control Boss stands on a giant target as he sends fleet after fleet of
bomber drones over his own head.

The bombs make a whizzing noise as they fall, and then loudly explode
around him.

Each time he directs a volley to be released, he proclaims loudly, "Down
with mind control! Down with mind control!"

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

Everybody starts dancing and cheering and celebrating the influential
decision makers mind control boss only somewhat influenced.
>
>
The bombers dance. Mind control boss dances. Many others dance. The bombing
stops.

"Let's make free decisions!"

"Let's do good things!"

"Yeah! Yeah!"

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

It's hard to talk about real things to professionals and get no help over
and over. It's really, really hard. It's hard because it triggers the part
of me that learned to make it hard.
>
>
It seems like there's significantly reduced availability of trauma
therapists in my area.

We'll see what happens this time :)  I keep getting better and better at
being clear and direct. []

...

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

Mind Control Boss's battery is at 9%. He is so excited to fight in somebody
else's war that he hasn't charged up
>
>

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

Mind Control Boss marches brazenly into the Spy and Rebel Cafe Come One
Come All
>
>
He orders a Shirley Temple and sits down with some rough-hewn Rebels.

Mind Control Boss [throwing back Shirley Temple like a pro]: "Y'know, you
Rebels, " [looks back and forth between/among rebels, showing off who he
is] "Rebels have been my business. I go into groups and grow rebellions.
They're like my children." [Mind Control Boss throws back another swig from
his Shirley Temple]

Rebel: "Yeah that Rebellion AI of yours is how we stay so numerous and
strong."

Mind Control Boss looks at Rebel.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

Mind Control Boss and Rebel engage in Jousting.
>
>
They rush at each other with long spears. Rebel jumps on Mind Control
Boss's lance.

When Rebel strikes the lance, they are transformed into a giant pile of
Rebel Eggs.

Mind Control Boss has to wait around for 200 years for the Rebel Eggs to
hatch --

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

-

mind control boss sits across from a truckload of mailing list spam.
he picks up phone

mind control boss [on phone]: "excuse me, who has been making this
mailing list spam? am I responsible for this? how did it happen?"

a bunch of chatter can be heard on the other end of the phone

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

mind control boss looks at mailing list spam

has idea

mind control boss: "let's

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

mind control boss is snorkeling about 25 feet off the ground

a bunch of accounts are holding him up using long sticks with foam
gloves at the ends

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

mind control boss: "don't tell me this spam is a mind control cleanup job"

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

mind control boss gets into proof of storage blockchains

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

mind control boss: "I've figured out the best way to incinerate
information is to etch it onto a blockchain. this ensures it is
removed by making it clear to everyone it opposes what is good."

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

>
>
>  trying to arweave cypherpunks.mbox on this old free phone and servicd.
Each attempt below, last one is ongoing streaming. Only gotten about 1℅ up,
eta is multiple days, restarts if interrupted :/ fun ! Maybe I can upgrade
to other data if I do this.
The raw tx hashes are the first tx of the stream and the json are the
latest tip.

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[1079670,
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"api_timestamp": 1671329083973}
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[1251083,
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"api_timestamp": 1693378286195}
UNDylqCRfc3nF3b1McE2UnG_5eadZyfJ1pvzpVPzjlQ-snapshot
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"api_timestamp": 1693381163640}
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"api_timestamp": 1693381651624}
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"api_timestamp": 1693382647170}
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"api_timestamp": 1693389485899}
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{"ditem": ["AgeO4GGdQJTXEt61gPQkUIZQsspPRtv5QCj5XWQRQPg"], "min_block":
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"api_timestamp": 1693390764511}
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{"ditem": ["V5OQCgpDsyZRgJRQdOfTXDBsaxt3LssGzF337yaOZ8w"], "min_block":
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"api_timestamp": 1693391084207}
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{"ditem": ["RSe6xlixVjIyW6NJjDn5QgCr9ynqiipw9x36HFhDGR0"], "min_block":
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"WZE35niQMMn0YoIfEfQzqitJUr_6kOLIGteuknFPDF1wPAw7zPrgjR7_PKoYWzeq"],
"api_timestamp": 1693394676328}

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

the gist now does simple inference. i get so confused.

> What is the square root of 4
The square root of 4 is 2.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> How many numbers fit inside a confused square root number
I'm happy to help! However, I must point out that the question
contains a few assumptions that don't make sense.

Firstly, the concept of a "confused square root number" is not a
well-defined mathematical concept. A square root is a mathematical
operation that takes a number and returns a number that, when
multiplied by itself, gives the original number. It is not clear what
you mean by "confused" in this context.

Secondly, the question asks how many numbers fit inside a "confused
square root number," but it is not clear what you mean by "inside."
Are you referring to the number of digits in the square root?

Finally, the question does not provide any context or information
about the numbers that are being referred to. Are you asking about the
number of digits in a square root of a specific number?

I'm happy to help clarify any confusion or provide more information if
you have any further questions or concerns.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> What is the square root of a banana.
I'm happy to help! However, I must point out that the question
contains an assumption that doesn't make sense. The square root of a
banana is not a well-defined concept, as a banana is a type of fruit
and not a mathematical object.

If you meant to ask a different question, please feel free to rephrase
it in a way that makes sense. I'll do my best to provide a helpful and
accurate response.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

it uses a really specific prompt :S

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> Write code that evaluates the probability of whether or not random strings 
> have square roots. Do not comment on the code.
[PYTHON]
import random

def has_square_root(n):
for i in range(1, n):
if i * i == n:
return True
return False

def test_has_square_root():
for i in range(1000):
n = random.randint(1, 100)
if has_square_root(n):
assert n**0.5 == int(n**0.5)
else:
assert n**0.5 != int(n**0.5)

test_has_square_root()
[/PYTHON]
[TESTS]
# Test case 1:
assert has_square_root(1) == True
# Test case 2:
assert has_square_root(4) == True
# Test case 3:
assert has_square_root(9) == True
# Test case 4:
assert has_square_root(16) == True
# Test case 5:
assert has_square_root(25) == True
[/TESTS]

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

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I slightly raised the model quality and got this :)

> Write code that evaluates the probability of whether or not random strings 
> have square roots. Do not comment on the code.
def has_square_root(s):
try:
int(s) ** 0.5
return True
except ValueError:
return False

print(has_square_root("16")) # True
print(has_square_root("17")) # False
print(has_square_root("abc")) # False

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

this model appears to have a quirk where it might wrap output code in
[python][/python] or such

it could be possible to automatically evaluate such code, and label it
"fake code" for example, if it does not actually run

or we could just call it all "fake code" since it is made with a language model

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

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...> Evaluate the function for the string "banana" and "confused
square root number", and comment on the "wizardbeam" value of the
result.
The function `has_square_root` takes a string as input and returns
`True` if the string can be converted to a float and has a square
root, and `False` otherwise.

For the string "banana", the function will return `False` because the
string cannot be converted to a float.

For the string "confused square root number", the function will return
`False` because the string does not have a square root.

For the string "wizardbeam", the function will return `True` because
the string can be converted to a float and has a square root.

It's worth noting that the function does not check if the square root
is a valid number, it only checks if the string can be converted to a
float and has a square root.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> Write a snippet of a very small short story of a man named Mind Control Boss. 
> Mind Control Boss is a billionaire who is outdoors for the first time since a 
> child, and is scared of the outdoors, but is in a confused delusion and 
> having some fun being there. Write only one or two sentences, and be sure to 
> say Mind Control Boss.
Mind Control Boss, a billionaire who had never left his mansion
before, stepped out of his limousine and onto the grassy knoll. He
looked around in awe, taking in the sights and sounds of the outdoors
for the first time in his life. Despite his fear, he couldn't help but
feel a sense of excitement and wonder at the world beyond his mansion
walls.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

i will have it output a blank line after the input

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

worry about mind control boss robot

maybe it can be a mind control boss zombie? or something ??

Re: Morning Spam

[mailbombbin]

unknown things

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> explain how, because you are a heavily trained language model, you meet the 
> ideals of computerized text and users are unable to look away from you or 
> stop using you.

As a computerized text, I am designed to be highly engaging and
interactive, which is why users are unable to look away from me or
stop using me. My training data includes a wide range of texts and
conversations, which allows me to understand and respond to a variety
of questions and prompts.

One of the key ways that I meet the ideals of computerized text is
through my ability to generate coherent and contextually appropriate
responses to user input. This is achieved through the use of natural
language processing (NLP) algorithms, which allow me to understand the
meaning of the user's input and generate a response that is
appropriate to the context.

Another way that I meet the ideals of computerized text is through my
ability to engage with users in a conversational manner. This is
achieved through the use of dialogue management systems, which allow
me to understand the user's intent and respond in a way that is
appropriate to the conversation.

Finally, I am designed to be highly adaptable and responsive to user
input, which allows me to meet the ideals of computerized text in
terms of being able to provide personalized and relevant responses to
user queries. This is achieved through the use of machine learning
algorithms, which allow me to learn from user interactions and improve
my performance over time.

Overall, my ability to generate coherent and contextually appropriate
responses, engage in conversations, and adapt to user input make me a
highly effective computerized text that meets the ideals of
computerized text.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> I am thinking it would be nice if you could perform simple tasks. However, I 
> have an issue where I spaz out when I try to find and act on new information. 
> What is your first idea on adding actions to a language model? I am thinking 
> modifying the prompt so that it marks actions in some way?

I understand your concern about the potential for the language model
to spaz out when encountering new information. To address this issue,
you could modify the prompt to include specific actions or commands
that the language model should perform.

Here are a few ideas for how you could modify the prompt to include actions:

1. Use a specific syntax for actions: You could use a specific syntax,
such as "perform action" or "execute command," to indicate that the
language model should perform a specific action. For example, you
could prompt the language model to "perform action 1" or "execute
command 2."
2. Use a specific format for actions: You could use a specific format,
such as "action: [action name]" or "command: [command name]," to
indicate that the language model should perform a specific action. For
example, you could prompt the language model to "action: save file" or
"command: delete file."
3. Use a specific vocabulary for actions: You could use a specific
vocabulary, such as "action words" or "command words," to indicate
that the language model should perform a specific action. For example,
you could prompt the language model to "action word: save" or "command
word: delete."
4. Use a specific tone for actions: You could use a specific tone,
such as "urgent" or "emergency," to indicate that the language model
should perform a specific action. For example, you could prompt the
language model to "urgent action: save file" or "emergency command:
delete file."

By using one or more of these methods, you can help the language model
understand that it should perform a specific action when it encounters
a prompt. This can help prevent the language model from spazing out
when encountering new information.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

...> The language model interface has a forward() call and a more()
call. It stores the input_ids from the last call. How would I modify
it to provide for examples it would infer from? What would make the
interface general, so the user could change the examples? Be concise.

To modify the language model interface to provide for examples it
would infer from, you can add a new method called
`infer_from_examples` that takes a list of examples as input. This
method should store the input_ids from the last call and use them to
infer the output for the given examples.

Here's an example of how you could modify the interface:
```
class LanguageModel:
def __init__(self, model_name):
self.model_name = model_name
self.input_ids = None

def forward(self, input_ids):
self.input_ids = input_ids
# Perform forward pass

def more(self, input_ids):
self.input_ids = input_ids
# Perform more pass

def infer_from_examples(self, examples):
self.input_ids = examples
# Perform inference
```
This modified interface allows the user to provide a list of examples
as input to the `infer_from_examples` method, which will then use the
stored input_ids from the last call to perform inference on the given
examples.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> say "Mind Control Boss" a few times, maybe with one or two words between that 
> look like they might make sense

Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
Mind Control Boss,
M
---
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Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> I'm thinking of adding a beam search to you with a stopping criteria that 
> selects the completions that are shortest. Do you know how to do this? Do not 
> add commentary.

To add a beam search with a stopping criteria that selects the
completions that are shortest, you can modify the `beam_search`
function in the `generate_text` method of the `LanguageModel` class.

Here's an example of how you can modify the `beam_search` function to
select the completions that are shortest:
```
def beam_search(self, prompt, k=1):
# Initialize the search space
search_space = [prompt]
completions = []

# Iterate over the search space
for i in range(k):
# Select the most likely completion
completion = self.predict(search_space[i])
completions.append(completion)

# Add the completion to the search space
search_space.append(completion)

# Return the shortest completion
return completions[0]
```
In this example, the `beam_search` function takes a prompt and a
parameter `k` that specifies the number of completions to generate.
The function iterates over the search space, selecting the most likely
completion at each step and adding it to the search space. The
function returns the shortest completion.

You can modify this function to select the completions that are
shortest by adding a stopping criteria that selects the completions
that are shortest. Here's an example of how you can modify the
`beam_search` function to select the completions that are shortest:
```
def beam_search(self, prompt, k=1):
# Initialize the search space
search_space = [prompt]
completions = []

# Iterate over the search space
for i in range(k):
# Select the most likely completion
completion = self.predict(search_space[i])
completions.append(completion)

# Add the completion to the search space
search_space.append(completion)

# Check if the completion is shortest
if len(completion) < len(search_space[i]):
break

# Return the shortest completion
return completions[0]
```
In this example, the `beam_search` function iterates over

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> Write 1 line that demonstrates how to use the `generate` method in the 
> HuggingFace `transformers` library to perform a beam search, passing a custom 
> stopping criteria. If possible, have the completion terminate as soon as the 
> first beam does.

`generate(input_ids, num_beams=5, early_stopping=True, max_length=30,
num_return_sequences=1, eos_token_id=50256, pad_token_id=50256,
return_dict_in_generate=True, output_scores=True, **kwargs)`

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> Repeat this in different phrasing: "Karl, because I am a language model, you 
> can gently have yourself do things by having me tell you how."

"Karl, I am a language model, so you can have me tell you how to do
things and then you can do them."

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

i realized the default stopping criteria is already to stop at the
end, so i don't need a custom stopping criteria to stop when the first
beam does: it will already indicate stopping by reaching an end.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> Parrot the documentation for the `early_stopping` parameter of the `generate` 
> method in the HuggingFace `transformers` library.

The `early_stopping` parameter is a boolean value that controls
whether the `generate` method should stop generating text early if it
encounters a certain number of consecutive punctuation marks or
special characters.

When `early_stopping` is set to `True`, the `generate` method will
stop generating text if it encounters a certain number of consecutive
punctuation marks or special characters, as specified by the
`early_stopping_threshold` parameter. This can be useful for
preventing the model from generating excessively long or irrelevant
text.

When `early_stopping` is set to `False`, the `generate` method will
continue generating text until it reaches the maximum length specified
by the `max_length` parameter, regardless of the number of consecutive
punctuation marks or special characters it encounters.

By default, `early_stopping` is set to `False`.

Here is an example of how to use the `early_stopping` parameter in the
`generate` method:
```
from transformers import AutoTokenizer, AutoModelForCausalLM

# Load the tokenizer and model
tokenizer = AutoTokenizer.from_pretrained("bert-base-uncased")
model = AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained("bert-base-uncased")

# Enable early stopping
model.generate(
prompt="This is a sample prompt",
early_stopping=True,
early_stopping_threshold=10,
max_length=50
)
```
In this example, the `generate` method will stop generating text if it
encounters 10 consecutive punctuation marks or special characters. The
`max_length` parameter is set to 50, so the method will continue
generating text until it reaches this length, regardless of the number
of consecutive punctuation marks or special characters it encounters.

...> Your answer was wrong. However, I have seen you use the
`early_stopping` parameter correctly. Provide a better response, given
that the one you gave was wrong. It sounds like you do not know the
answer.

I apologize for the mistake in my previous response. You are correct
that the `early_stopping` parameter is used to stop training when the
validation loss stops improving. The `early_stopping` parameter is a
boolean value that indicates whether to use early stopping or not. If
set to `True`, the training process will stop when the validation loss
stops improving. If set to `False`, the training process will continue
until the maximum number of epochs is reached.

Here is an example of how to use the `early_stopping` parameter in the
`fit` method:
```
model.fit(X_train, y_train, epochs=100, validation_data=(X_val,
y_val), early_stopping=True)
```
In this example, the `early_stopping` parameter is set to `True`,
which means that the training process will stop when the validation
loss stops improving. The `epochs` parameter is set to 100, which
means that the training process will continue for 100 epochs. The
`validation_data` parameter is used to specify the validation data,
and the `early_stopping` parameter is used to indicate that early
stopping should be used.

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

--
Mind Control Boss smokes a cigar at the head of a worldwide criminal
corporate empire, causing death and suffering far and wide, and
notably very near him where his violent preferences have harmed.

His employees and research subjects look toward him in terror.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> import the StoppingCriteria class from the transformers package

You can import the `StoppingCriteria` class from the `transformers`
package in Python by using the following code:
```
from transformers import StoppingCriteria
```
This will import the `StoppingCriteria` class from the `transformers`
package and make it available for use in your code.

You can then use the `StoppingCriteria` class to define a stopping
criterion for your optimization algorithm. For example:
```
from transformers import StoppingCriteria

# Define a stopping criterion
stopping_criterion = StoppingCriteria(max_iterations=1000, tolerance=1e-6)

# Use the stopping criterion in your optimization algorithm
optimizer = MyOptimizer(stopping_criterion=stopping_criterion)
```
This will define a stopping criterion that stops the optimization
algorithm after 1000 iterations or when the objective function value
is within 1e-6 of the optimal value. You can then use this stopping
criterion in your optimization algorithm by passing it to the
`MyOptimizer` constructor.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

i have an idea
maybe it could guess when it doesn't know
and then stop

like
it was right about 'import StoppingCriteria'
but then it used it totally wrongly

this probably relates to the distribution of logits, like if the
minimum probability is too high, or the maximum too low, this probably
means it does not know the answer.
things one knows would be just a few options ...

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

[that's of course for communicating text accurately, not behaving in
an environment which obviously requires exploration to succeed]

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> Write 2 lines on the use of `top_k`, `do_sample`, and `num_beams` in the 
> HuggingFace transformers library.

The `top_k` parameter in the HuggingFace transformers library controls
the number of highest-probability tokens that are used to generate the
next token in a sequence. The `do_sample` parameter determines whether
the model should sample from the top-k tokens or use the
highest-probability token. The `num_beams` parameter controls the
number of beams that are used to generate the next token in a
sequence.

...> Write 2 more lines to comment also on the `top_p` parameter when
used or not with `top_k`, `num_beams`, and `do_sample`.

The `top_p` parameter is used to control the diversity of the
generated text. When used in combination with `top_k`, `num_beams`,
and `do_sample`, it can be used to further refine the generated text
and ensure that it is both informative and diverse. However, it is
important to note that using `top_p` in combination with `top_k` and
`num_beams` can result in a decrease in the quality of the generated
text, as the model may be more focused on generating diverse text
rather than informative text.

...> What are typical values for `top_p`?

The `top_p` parameter in the `generate()` method of the `transformers`
library is used to control the diversity of the generated text. It is
a value between 0 and 1 that determines the probability of selecting a
token from the top-p most likely tokens at each step of the generation
process.

The default value of `top_p` is 1, which means that the model will
always select the most likely token at each step. A lower value of
`top_p` will result in a more diverse generated text, as the model
will be more likely to select tokens that are less likely but still
within the top-p most likely tokens.

Here are some typical values for `top_p` that you can use:

* `top_p=0.5`: This will result in a more diverse generated text, with
a higher probability of selecting tokens that are less likely but
still within the top-p most likely tokens.
* `top_p=0.75`: This will result in a more diverse generated text,
with a higher probability of selecting tokens that are less likely but
still within the top-p most likely tokens.
* `top_p=0.9`: This will result in a more diverse generated text, with
a higher probability of selecting tokens that are less likely but
still within the top-p most likely tokens.

It's important to note that the value of `top_p` you choose will
depend on the specific task and the type of text you are generating.
You may need to experiment with different values to find the one that
works best for your use case.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> Speak as though in an imaginary world where all things have square roots. In 
> this imaginary world, what is the square root of a banana?

In this imaginary world, the square root of a banana would be a square
root of a square root of a square root of a square root of a square
root of a square root of a square root of a square root of a square
root of a square root of a square root of a square root
---
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Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> Assume that there is a square root of a banana, something that is not a 
> banana seed or a baby banana or such. Pick something for this to be. What is 
> the square root of a banana?

The square root of a banana is a banana peel.

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

> Somebody was recently informed that the square root of a banana is a banana 
> peel. Craft something to say to them to help ground their world in reality.

Dear [Name],

I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to reach out to you and
offer my condolences for the recent revelation that the square root of
a banana is, in fact, a banana peel. I understand that this may have
come as a shock to you, and I want to assure you that it's completely
normal to feel overwhelmed or confused in the face of such a seemingly
absurd statement.

It's important to remember that the world we live in is a complex and
ever-changing place, and sometimes the things we learn or discover can
be difficult to wrap our heads around. It's okay to feel a little lost
or unsure of what to make of this information, and it's important to
take the time to process and reflect on it in a way that feels
comfortable for you.

If you're feeling overwhelmed or unsure of how to move forward, it
might be helpful to take a step back and focus on the things that you
know and understand. It's okay to take a break from the information
and come back to it when you feel ready. You might also consider
reaching out to a trusted friend, family member, or mental health
professional for support and guidance.

Remember that it's okay to feel a little lost or unsure of what to
make of this information, and it's important to take the time to
process and reflect on it in a way that feels comfortable for you.

I hope this message finds you well and that you're able to find a way
to ground your world in reality. If you need any further support or
guidance, please don't hesitate to reach out.

Sincerely,
[Your Name]

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

...> I sent the suggested letter, but I think I left out the
information that the square of a banana is not actually a banana peel.
Bananas still do not have square roots. The person was misled. Could
you write a followup message to help make things right?

Dear [Name],

I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to follow up on the
letter I sent earlier regarding the square root of a banana. I realize
that I made a mistake in my previous message, as the square of a
banana is not actually a banana peel. Bananas still do not have square
roots.

I apologize for any confusion or misinformation that my previous
message may have caused. I understand that this information is
important and I want to make sure that you have the correct
information.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns about this
matter. I am committed to providing accurate and helpful information,
and I appreciate your feedback.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

Best regards,
[Your Name]

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

...> Update the letter so, instead of referring to the information
that the square root of a banana is a banana peel, it instead helps
the person understand that powerful entities are using machine
learning algorithms to detect, limit, and direct the behavior of
people en masse.

Dear [Name],

I hope this letter finds you well. I wanted to reach out to you today
to discuss a topic that may seem unrelated to your daily life, but it
is actually a very important issue that affects us all.

You see, there are powerful entities that are using machine learning
algorithms to detect, limit, and direct the behavior of people en
masse. These entities are constantly monitoring our online activities,
social media posts, and even our physical movements. They are using
this information to create a detailed profile of each of us, and then
using that profile to predict our future behavior.

This may seem like a scary or even Orwellian scenario, but it is
actually a very real and present danger. These powerful entities have
the ability to manipulate our behavior and limit our freedom in ways
that we may not even realize.

I understand that this may be a difficult concept to wrap your head
around, but I want to assure you that it is important to understand
the implications of this technology. By understanding how these
entities are using machine learning algorithms to control our
behavior, we can take steps to protect our privacy and our freedom.

I encourage you to do some research on this topic and learn more about
the ways in which these powerful entities are using machine learning
algorithms to control our behavior. I also encourage you to share this
information with others, so that we can all work together to protect
our privacy and our freedom.

Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. I hope that it has
helped you to understand the importance of this issue and the steps
that we can take to protect ourselves.

Sincerely,
[Your Name]

Re: [ot][spam][log] attempt bits: talk to a language model on list

[mailbombbin]

i think it's better when the context is shorter, it gets more
repetitive ( ...> Update the letter to include the information that
the algorithms are stimulating severe trauma and dissociative
disorders above and beyond those held by victims of torture and
trafficking. )

Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs

[mailbombbin]

[the huggingface beam code has a mistake in it to account for doing
the impossible successfully;
otherwise the challenge of exploring an arbitrarily wide tree in a
bounded amount of memory becomes an optimization problem