Adobe's Teeth. (Was: Re: [free-sklyarov] Re: Rallies on Monday)
- Original Message - From: Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Black Unicorn' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: RE: Adobe's Teeth. (Was: Re: [free-sklyarov] Re: Rallies on Monday) From: Black Unicorn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Exercise your right to free speech. Do it carefully. Use a spotter, protective equipment, and enlist a trained coach. Translate as: Use a lawyer, anonymous remailer, and enlist a PR expert. Good advice in either example.
The Digital Millennium Rape Act
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Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers self defence
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Reese wrote: Don't mind the propaganda at the bottom of the images, just look at the pictures and draw your own conclusions. The shooting occurred at the back of the vehicle, where not even US vehicles have safety glass (and the window was already broken out). Wrong, my Bronco has safety glass all around. So did my Mustang GT. My 86 Isuzu Pup also has safety glass all around. -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
RE: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonpost.com)
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Trei, Peter wrote: With high-powered lasers, one of the important destructive mechanisms is blast - the outer layer of the illuminated object vaporizes, and flies away from the rest of the target. The reactive force of this You're orders of magnitude away from such fluxes. You're trying to hit a moving, rapidly accelerating (possibly flying random evasion maneuvres) high-albedo vehicle -- through the Mach cone, through the 100 km of atmosphere filled with clouds, haze, random fluctuations, etc. Once it's past boost phase, it's essentially invulnerable. Chemical lasers have a limited numbers of shots, every energy leaving the vehicle must pass through it's optics aperture (which must be damn transparent). The vehicle is very complicated and delicate, and expensive. Given that you have to make many kills during few 100 s window, it doesn't appear cost-effective. If it's in LEO, I just launch a bucket of tungsten or depleted uranium birdshot in countersense orbit. Given a few iterations, I can keep surprising amounts of orbital space clean of any operable machinery. gives the target a hell of a kick. Kicking off strict alignment with it's flight path, or putting a big dent (or even better a hole) in the If you ablate a bit of hull sufficient to change course, you've killed the vehicle, whether solid boosters, or cryogenic fuel tanks. side of a missile under several G's of stress traveling at a high Mach number is not healthy for the missile. Laser's have problems though - as they heat the air the refractive index changes, leading to 'blooming' or beam expansion. At too high a power density they can also ionize the air, which makes it effectively opaque. Dust, haze, and clouds are also problems. Using *very* short pulses eliminates many of these problems. We're not talking about a fuel pellet in the focus of a NOVA laser.
RE: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonp ost.com)
With high-powered lasers, one of the important destructive mechanisms is blast - the outer layer of the illuminated object vaporizes, and flies away from the rest of the target. The reactive force of this gives the target a hell of a kick. Kicking off strict alignment with it's flight path, or putting a big dent (or even better a hole) in the side of a missile under several G's of stress traveling at a high Mach number is not healthy for the missile. Laser's have problems though - as they heat the air the refractive index changes, leading to 'blooming' or beam expansion. At too high a power density they can also ionize the air, which makes it effectively opaque. Dust, haze, and clouds are also problems. Using *very* short pulses eliminates many of these problems. Peter Trei -- From: Steve Schear[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonpost.com) At 09:14 AM 7/22/2001 -0500, you wrote: Point this baby at the ground... http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27248-2001Jul20.html I wonder what the destructive mechanism is for this system? Heat by radiant absorption seems an obvious but impractical method. If it is, then as the article mentions there may be some inexpensive and practical countermeasures to such a system, such as making the exterior of the missile body into a multi-faceted mirror able to reflect both IR and radar energy (although doing the same for the nose cone might prove more difficult due to aerodynamics). steve
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Re: Killing the 8 Swiss Anarchists
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, sorry, there are Feds listening with no sense of humor. What makes you think cpunks is that important? (Besides, the person profile is self-selecting, and largely harmless, and in case they bother to listen, they of course know it). -- Eugene -- largely harmless
Re: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonpost.com)
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Eugene Leitl wrote: My comment was limited to radiant energy weapons. Even that's not sufficient since lasers have been demonstrated for mid-course assaults as well. As to those, the critical vulnerability exists during launch and boost phase. The target is slow, bright, large, has fuel on board and a nonarmored hull, which (as other posters observed) can be weakened with enough flux. All it really takes is to get it cocked a tad off senter and aerodynamic forces will take it apart, irrespective of hull weakness. The warhead in transit is fast, small, silent, and very, very hard to hit critically (well, it is designed to withstand reentry and nuclear antimissile near-hits), especially if it has a high-albedo coating, and if it is accompanied by a cloud of decoys. Either radiant energy weapon or kinetic kill, you're on the losing side here. They've certainly managed to kill enough of them in tests starting as far back as the ASAT fighters from the 80's. The reality is that quite a lot of research goes on in attacking the warheads while in the mid-course phase. It's also worth mentioning that in general the individual (assuming MRV) warheads don't usually seperate until after mid-flight. This means a not-so-small target. operations, vacuum effects (rupture a fuel tank and watch that baby gyrate). True, but irrelevant. Actually not, if you strike the tanks (they are typically filled with Nitrogen to both provide strength, ala a plastic coke bottle with the top on and off, and to help move fuel to the engines. Approximately half the flight occurs in this phase. Which has been demonstrated to be extant since the mid-80's when they shot the first satellite down with a high altitude fighter. A missile in boost phase is not a satellite. A cloud of decoys is not a satellite. An armored warhead is not a satellite. The satellite used was specifically chosen to mimic the characteristics of a re-entry vehicle. All I can say is google and 'anti-satellite aircraft'. -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Former KKK Strongholds Ban Hoods in Public; ACLU Objects on Free-Speech Grounds
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGABWS1JIPC.html Title: Former KKK Strongholds Ban Hoods in Public; ACLU Objects on Free-Speech Grounds - from Tampa Bay Online News Weather Things to do Sports Traffic Classified Real Estate Employment Autos Relocation Multimedia On Demand Health Shopping Consumer Education Money Travel --- Sites: TBO.com Tampatrib.com WFLA.com WeatherCenter.com HighlandsToday.com HernandoToday.com --- Welcome Make TBO your Home Page Advertise with us Web site feedback Former KKK Strongholds Ban Hoods in Public; ACLU Objects on Free-Speech Grounds By Bruce SchreinerAssociated Press Writer Published: Jul 23, 2001 MOUNT WASHINGTON, Ky. (AP) - In the 1970s, when Bullitt County was still a hotbed of Ku Klux Klan activity, Chester Porter's attempts to prosecute Klansmen were met with threats and a cross-burning outside his home. "It was a time to be cautious and be aware of your surroundings," said the former county attorney. A generation later, Porter said he knows of no Klan activity in the county. And Porter, who is white, has mixed feelings about the legal tactic that officials are now using to keep it that way: local ordinances that forbid demonstrators from wearing masks or hoods. Porter said government should not set up obstacles for groups wanting to peacefully express their views, no matter how extreme. Besides, he said, "as a kid growing up, I learned early on that it's not good to be spanking copperheads. It's better to be staying away from them. If they are silent, you be silent. That's my philosophy." He is not the only one troubled. The ACLU says the laws, while well-intended, may infringe on the Klan's free-speech rights. The City Council in Shepherdsville, a focal point of Klan activity in the 1970s, recently approved such an ordinance. The Mount Washington City Council was expected to adopt a similar one Monday night. In all, nearly 30 Kentucky cities or counties have such ordinances, some dating to the 1920s, according to the Kentucky Commission on Human Rights. "You can't stop them from marching, but you might be able to stop them if they have to uncover their faces," said Barry Armstrong, a banker and white Mount Washington councilman who suggested his town's proposed ordinance, which would carry a $100 fine, or up to 50 days in jail, or both. No one has been prosecuted under any of the recent ordinances. Armstrong said his proposal has been warmly received in a town not exactly known for racial diversity. Out of a population of 8,485, only 41 residents identified themselves in the latest census as black or part black. From his auto repair shop about a block from City Hall, Jimmy Breeden, who is white, said he likes the ordinance. People have a right to protest, he said, but hiding behind a hood or mask is "a show of cowardice." But Jeff Vessels, director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky, said: "What is at stake here is a very important First Amendment principle of free speech, and it protects that speech regardless of how offensive people might find that speech." Vessels said the ACLU is keeping track of the recent anti-mask ordinances but has not been contacted by anyone wanting to challenge them. Such laws have been vulnerable. Louisville's ordinance was struck down by a federal judge in response to an ACLU lawsuit filed before a Klan rally in 1996. An anti-mask ordinance enacted in Goshen, Ind., in 1998 met a similar fate in federal court after being challenged by the KKK. However, more than a decade ago, a Klansman arrested in Georgia for wearing his hood in public lost a bid to overturn the law in the state Supreme Court. The justices said the 1951 law did not violate free-speech rights and was a legitimate attempt to prevent violence and intimidation. Jeffery Berry of Butler, Ind., national imperial wizard for the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, said anti-mask laws are an infringement on Klansmen's constitutional right to assemble. He said the hoods are not meant to intimidate. "That's part of our religious attire," he said. "It's for two reasons: One is a religious aspect, and the other is to conceal one's identity for
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RE: Vengeance Against Adobe
Declan McCullagh wrote: But the Feds won't back down as readily as Adobe, I wager. They don't have to worry about what programmers think, they don't have to worry about what Wall Street thinks (at least DOJ doesn't), they don't have to worry about slipping revenue in a soft economy and users turning to non-Adobe tools. In short, they have a different incentive structure... True, it may be different, but it is an incentive structure (or, more accurately, a disincentive structure). For example, I don't thing the Federal Baby Incinerators really want to create another Wen Ho Lee or Richard Jewel fiasco. They already have enough egg on their face. S a n d y
RE: Adobe's Teeth. (Was: Re: [free-sklyarov] Re: Rallies on Monday)
-- From: Black Unicorn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Exercise your right to free speech. Do it carefully. Use a spotter, protective equipment, and enlist a trained coach. Do warm up exercises first :-) Peter
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Re: CDR: Vengeance Against Adobe
Tim writes: Adobe's use of police state measures to have a minor critic (by their own later admission) yanked out of a conference is not likely to be forgotten quickly. I expect this will have consequences when they eventually resume college recruiting. Adobe will likely face sneers and derisive laughter when it shows up on college campuses next spring to recruit. Adobe's pulling back on Dmitry doesn't change the fact that the company lied in saying what was being distributed was copyrighted Adobe software. Despite the EFF's effusive praise of Adobe, I don't plan to use any Adobe software in the future. In other DMCA news, does Fox really think they can stop Planet of the Apes from being posted to Usenet? This should be an amusing test of Usenet routing around damage, as Fox Intellectual Property attempts to spam every newsadmin in the world with takedown notices faster than the machines can talk to each other. Bailing with a teaspoon if you ask me. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
DOJ information sharing press release
Matt, here's something you might be interested in (as might cpunx). --Declan JUSTICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES FUNDS TO 26 STATES FOR INFORMATION SHARING INITIATIVES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE BJA Monday, July 23, 2001 202/307-0703 JUSTICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES FUNDS TO 26 STATES FOR INFORMATION SHARING INITIATIVES WASHINGTON, D.C.-- Justice Department grants to 26 states totaling more than $16 million will help them share information across jurisdictional and criminal justice system component lines and lead to improving the way they do business. The funds will help states link key information systems that include crime and offender information that will lead to better sentencing decisions, enhanced public safety and other benefits derived from more comprehensive, better coordinated criminal justice information systems. For too long, the different arms of the criminal justice system at the federal, state, and local levels have not known what the others were doing, said Office of Justice Programs (OJP) Acting Assistant Attorney General Mary Lou Leary. By helping law enforcement, courts, probation and parole agencies, and other components of the criminal justice system to more effectively share information, we will exponentially enhance public safety. The grants are being made under a program authorized by the Crime Identification Technology Act of 1998-more commonly referred to as CITA. The program is being administered by the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA), a component of OJP, in cooperation with the National Governors' Association's Center for Best Practices. (MORE) -2- In Fiscal Year 2000, BJA and NGA's Center for Best Practices provided Information Integration program planning grants of $25,000 to 42 states and hosted a series of information integration workshops that were attended by representatives of state implementation teams from 45 states. These 26 grants will allow selected states to build on that work and lay the groundwork for future national information integration efforts. Rapid advances in technology have allowed police, prosecutors, courts, and corrections to build impressive information systems, said Leary. The key is to allow these systems to share information. Judges who have reliable up-to-date arrest records will be able to make better sentencing decisions. In turn, police who have complete information about outstanding warrants and criminal histories will be in a better position to detain dangerous criminals, who do not belong back on the street. The projects being funded with the grants being announced today range from $40,000 to $1 million initiatives. The projects will last between 12 and 24 months and must contribute directly to improving information sharing among all or some of the law enforcement and criminal justice agencies at the state and local levels. Additional information about BJA is available at: www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bja http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bja Additional information about NGA's Center for Best Practices is available at: www.nga.org/center http://www.nga.org/center # # # BJA 01-164 After Hours Contact: Doug Johnson 202/353-5610 (cell) Office of Justice Programs (OJP) BJA/NGA FY 2001 Justice Information Technology Integration Implementation Project State Grantee Award AmountContact Phone AZ Arizona Criminal Justice Commission $ 230,000 Michael D. Branham 602/728-0752 AR Arkansas Integrated Justice Information System Coordinating Council $ 910,563 Brenda Barber 501/682-0053 CO Colorado Department of Public Safety$ 700,000 C. Suzanne Menncer 303/239-4398 CT The State of Connecticut$ 705,000 Theron Schnure 860/418-6340 FL Florida Technology Office $1,000,000 Roy Cales 850/410-4777 HI State of Hawaii $1,000,000 Carla T. Poirier808/586-5330 IL State of Illinois $ 973,660 Matt Bettenhausen 312/814-2121 KS Kansas Bureau of Investigation $ 239,000 Charles W. Sexson 785/296-8200 KY Commonwealth of Kentucky$1,000,000 Aldona Valicenti502/564-1201 MD Maryland Criminal Justice Information Advisory Board$ 460,352 Stewart Simms 410/339-5000 MA Massachusetts Office of Public Safety $ 850,000 Jane Perlov 617/727-7775 MI Michigan Department of State Police $ 750,000 Nancy Becker517/336-6641 MO State of Missouri $ 510,815 Gerry Wethington573/526-7741 MT Montana Department of Justice $ 40,000Wulbur Rehmann 406/444-6194 NE State of Nebraska $ 336,200 Michael Overton 402/471-3992 NJ New Jersey Dept. of Law and Public Safety $ 350,000 Steven Talpas 609/984-0634 State Grantee Award AmountContact Phone NM
Re: Vengeance Against Adobe
On Monday, July 23, 2001, at 11:05 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote: True. And I'll agree with you, this time -- I think the Feds will, in the end, drop this case, if the protests continue. And I'll bet the Feds drop it because their corporate backer, Adobe, has abandoned them. They don't like to be left twisting slowly in the wind. And the more Adobe now tries to spin their role, the more the Feds are left twisting. The AG will likely say Fuck that noise (in his own Christian lingo) and the case will quietly go away. BTW, I certainly have never argued the case would receive even 1% of the attention the Wen Ho Lee or Richard Jewel cases got. But it seems to be getting about the same level of attention that Intel's processor ID proposal got (modulo differences in the issues). The more lasting effect is not what Joe and Alice Sixpack think of Adobe (Huh?), but how it energizes parts of the hacker community. A bunch of hackers are now likely to expand the cracking of Adobe's ebooks by leaps and bounds. It'll be a badge of honor --Tim May
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Re: Ohio man convicted for obscene stories in his private journal
At 11:22 AM 7/5/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: [A followup to a cpunx thread, and a link to the statute.] Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 11:15:01 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ohio man convicted for obscene stories in his private journal Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is an unusual case. The Ohio law -- a 1970s version of which Politech member Bruce Taylor successfully defended before a federal appeals court -- applies not only to dirty pictures, but also to written material: http://www.moralityinmedia.org/obsclawlinks.htm#oh No person, with knowledge of the character of the material or performance involved, shall do any of the following... Create, reproduce, or publish any obscene material that has a minor as one of its participants or portrayed observers... Buy, procure, possess, or control any obscene material, that has a minor as one of its participants... Anyone who possesses such a visual or written description -- including a diary entry or an erotic story -- is guilty of a felony. That means Ohioans who have on their hard drive an obscene text file from alt.sex.stories are felons. Other coverage: http://www.nydailynews.com/2001-07-05/News_and_Views/Beyond_the_City/a-117267.asp http://enquirer.com/editions/2001/07/05/loc_tristate_a_m_report.html What's the difference between the Russian Constitution and the American Constitution? They both guarantee freedom of speech, but the U.S. Constitution also guarantees freedom after the words are uttered. Dmitry Perevozhkin, Anecdotes about Putin
Re: CDR: RE: Vengeance Against Adobe
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: I couldn't agree with you more, nevertheless my point still stands that disincentives do exist and the Federal Baby Incinerators don't need yet another incrementally damaging error on their rap sheet. Do you *honestly* think they give a shit? Are you really *that* naive? S a n d y -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Vengeance Against Adobe
At 11:44 PM -0400 7/23/01, Declan McCullagh wrote: Another effect will be companies that wish to take advantage of the criminal sections of the DMCA will be more likely to cover their tracks when dealing with the Feds. The next Adobe won't be so quick to admit they contacted the FBI, for instance. Something's that interesting is the _speed_ and _strength_ of the reactions against companies when they cross some line. Adobe's use of police state measures to have a minor critic (by their own later admission) yanked out of a conference is not likely to be forgotten quickly. I expect this will have consequences when they eventually resume college recruiting. Adobe will likely face sneers and derisive laughter when it shows up on college campuses next spring to recruit. My old employer, Intel, has also caught the wrath of the community a couple of times. Notably when they briefly tried to add a processor I.D. They retreated, though Microsoft was not deterred a few years later from planning their own registration features. (This system has a different printer attached to it than when it was Officially Registered with the Borg Mothership. We have concluded that you are a possible software pirate. Windows XP, Microsoft Office, Outlook Express, and Internet Explorer have been disabled. Contact our office during normal business hours and attempt to explain why we should reauthorize you. Have a Microsoft day!) Like Niven's flash crowd effect, the slash dot, mailing list, and online news services are making the anger of the users a terrible swift sword. Adobe became a pariah in a matter of days. Adobe will be suffering for a long time to come. (Note to our FBI monitors: This is NOT a threat against Adobe. Note to Cypherpunks: With feebs like the Feebs out there, one can never assume that ordinary figures of speech will be understood.) --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
Re: Vengeance Against Adobe
True. And I'll agree with you, this time -- I think the Feds will, in the end, drop this case, if the protests continue. -Declan On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 10:23:10PM -0700, Sandy Sandfort wrote: Declan McCullagh wrote: Here's a prediction: This case will never come close to generating the same amount of publicity, by at least two orders of magnitude. Folks on the Net have a bad habit of overemphasizing how important these cases are. This is not important to the people in DC who count. I couldn't agree with you more, nevertheless my point still stands that disincentives do exist and the Federal Baby Incinerators don't need yet another incrementally damaging error on their rap sheet. S a n d y
Re: CDR: Vengeance Against Adobe
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Tim May wrote: Adobe will be suffering for a long time to come. While it is a consummation devoutly to be wished, I predict that the backlash will be gone in a mere matter of weeks, if not days. Let's face it: the people most likely to be Adobe *customers* are anything but hungry. A fat customer is an apathetic customer... -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers self defence
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Tim May wrote: Third, those of us who are old enough remember that Jayne Mansfield's head went right through the safety glass. They didn't have safety glass in the 50's. Those sort of accidents that got worse into the 60's are the reason they put safety glass in cars. Back in those old days it was 'tempered' which means heat treated to be hard, not shock resistant. -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Adobe, EFF Call for Dmitry Release
Sounds to me like Adobe doesn't really like the bad press. When will these companies understand that all this is going to do is cause the programmers to write even more adobe cracking programs and make them available all over the net. They cannot stop it Jon Beets Pacer Communications - Original Message - From: John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 9:44 PM Subject: Adobe, EFF Call for Dmitry Release From a press release today: --- Adobe Systems Incorporated and the Electronic Frontier Foundation today jointly recommend the release of Russian programmer Dmitry Sklyarov from federal custody. Adobe is also withdrawing its support for the criminal complaint against Dmitry Sklyarov. We strongly support the DMCA and the enforcement of copyright protection of digital content, said Colleen Pouliot, Senior Vice President and General Counsel for Adobe. However, the prosecution of this individual in this particular case is not conducive to the best interests of any of the parties involved or the industry. ElcomSoft's Advanced eBook Processor software is no longer available in the United States, and from that perspective the DMCA worked. Adobe will continue to protect its copyright interests and those of its customers. --
Re: Adobe, EFF Call for Dmitry Release
Another effect will be companies that wish to take advantage of the criminal sections of the DMCA will be more likely to cover their tracks when dealing with the Feds. The next Adobe won't be so quick to admit they contacted the FBI, for instance. Or, pace Blacknet, the next company that wants to use DMCA against a hacker will target the organizers of the protests and blackmail them anonymously. :) -Declan On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 08:41:11PM -0500, Jon Beets wrote: Sounds to me like Adobe doesn't really like the bad press. When will these companies understand that all this is going to do is cause the programmers to write even more adobe cracking programs and make them available all over the net. They cannot stop it Jon Beets Pacer Communications - Original Message - From: John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 9:44 PM Subject: Adobe, EFF Call for Dmitry Release From a press release today: --- Adobe Systems Incorporated and the Electronic Frontier Foundation today jointly recommend the release of Russian programmer Dmitry Sklyarov from federal custody. Adobe is also withdrawing its support for the criminal complaint against Dmitry Sklyarov. We strongly support the DMCA and the enforcement of copyright protection of digital content, said Colleen Pouliot, Senior Vice President and General Counsel for Adobe. However, the prosecution of this individual in this particular case is not conducive to the best interests of any of the parties involved or the industry. ElcomSoft's Advanced eBook Processor software is no longer available in the United States, and from that perspective the DMCA worked. Adobe will continue to protect its copyright interests and those of its customers. --
RE: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonp ost.com)
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Steve Schear wrote: I have a hard time imagining that a mirrored and faceted vehicle exterior would provide enough absorption to enable this mechanism, otherwise the laser's own mirrors would like destruct from the same exposure. Not necessarily, if the beam is focused on the target but its intensity is lower at the source. If I'm not mistaken, the 747 stuff does precisely this, even incorporating adaptive optics to combat atmospheric distortion. But on the whole you're probably still probably -- this does sound more like starwars than efficient anti-missile technology. But I also think the question Choate posed is a valid one: what happens when the target is *not* a ballistic missile, but people, equipment and vehicles on the ground, normal aircraft, or air-to-air missiles? One would think that the lower velocity differentials and expected distance-to-target make aiming much easier, and that effective counter-measures would be significantly more difficult to erect, considering that such conventional targets have properties very different from those of ballistic missiles (e.g. aircraft raise questions of aerodynamics and payload efficiency, wearable materials with albedos high enough are difficult to come up with, rotation and aerodynamic engineering cannot be used to dissipate the heat generated by a hit, people/cars/tanks/whathaveyou often need to be difficult to spot using aerial and satellite imaging, and so on). Such weapons capability could be *quite* useful, especially if the 747 can be effectively defended against anti-aircraft missiles, and the laser has a range and targeting capability on par with anti-ballistic missile applications. Hits on critical infrastructure, control over a nation's airspace, death-from-above FUD, that sort of thing. Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], gsm: +358-50-5756111 student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front
Assasination Politics in the Middle East
Ok, the Subject line is a bit of a stretch, as there's no anon payment, but it is interesting nonetheless. Israel to look into Arafat murder ad Monday, 23 July 2001 12:32 (ET) Israel to look into Arafat murder ad By SAUD ABU RAMADAN GAZA, July 23 (UPI) -- Israel's attorney general on Monday said he would consider opening a criminal investigation into an advertisement that urged anyone who had the opportunity to murder Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, the Haaretz newspaper reported. The paper said that a leader of a group called Zo Artzeinu, Moshe Feiglin, and three movement colleagues signed the advertisement, published in the Makor Rishon newspaper by the right-wing group. The ad called on any Israeli to point your rifle at his (Arafat's) plane when it flies over the Jewish settlement... The ad also urged members of the Israeli secret service to open fire immediately at Arafat's convoy whenever driving in the streets of Gaza and the West Bank. Legal officials said they doubted indictments could actually be submitted against either the Zo Artzeinu members or Makor Rishon's editors. Since a tougher anti-incitement law was recently defeated in the Knesset, said the paper, prosecutors lack the legal tools needed to indict the sponsors of the anti-Arafat message. But Member of Knesset Ran Cohen from Meretz Party urged Israel Attorney General Elyakim Rubinstein to charge both the Zo Artzeinu members and Makor Rishon's editors. Rubinstein also ordered the Israeli army, the police and the Shin Bet security service to take firm, uncompromising action against extremist Jewish settlers who harm innocent Arab civilians. Meanwhile, Rubinstein reportedly convened a secret meeting last week with top security officials to consider ways of clamping down on vigilante actions that harm Palestinian civilians, including women and children, said the paper. Officials at the meeting considered various legal steps against extremists, particularly in the Hebron area, such as banning their entry to flashpoints on the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Ha'aretz said that no decision had been reached regarding the imposition of such restraining orders on Jewish militants. http://www.vny.com/cf/news/upidetail.cfm?QID=204957
Re: Killing the 8 Swiss Anarchists
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: Don't be silly. We know from sworn testimony in at least one (probably Too late, they should have strangled me at birth. two, but my memory fails me) criminal trials that there are a number of Feds who read cpunks in their official capacities. Whether they Damn, so obviously I don't need to apply for any jobs requiring a security clearance. Should have used one of them newfangled 'nymous remailers, and stuff. have a sense of humor or not as left as an exercise for the observer. Well, of *course* one best searches for the lost car key under a streetlight, especially if one can be observed in execution of one's sworn duties (namely, to surf to protect). And, who knows, one *might* find a car key, if one would search long and hard enough. Your tax money at work, and all. Why am I not surprised. Hmm, so this means a have to find an accomplice who has never published anything online, thus being clear of an author fingerprint before revealing my nefarious plans for world domination. It was sure easier, back in the olden days...
Re: Adobe's Teeth. (Was: Re: [free-sklyarov] Re: Rallies on Monday)
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Black Unicorn wrote: Translate as: Use a lawyer, anonymous remailer, and enlist a PR expert. Good advice in either example. That's pretty constrained 'free speech'. -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Black Unicorn wrote: Perhaps we should just designate the funds, payable monthly, for every month Choate doesn't post anything to the list? Coase at work, eh? Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], gsm: +358-50-5756111 student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front
RE: THE INCHOATE LAWYER
i'd front the expense of the test and a cab fare between his home and the nearest testing facility (not to exceed $50 total cab fare.) but let's make this interesting: 1. Choate will receive a $500 bonus if he scores above 97th percentile (eg. 97th percentile loses, but 97.01th percentile wins.) (I'll pitch in $100 in prize money, the rest from cpunks?) 2. ETS scores must be presented in original unmodified form to an approved cpunks reader within 72 hours of Choate's receipt of official test scores. 3. Choate pays the EFF $500 for any score less than 85 percentile. Choate must send this money via an approved cpunks reader to the EFF to verify the inevitable transfer of funds. 4. If the ETS scores aren't received by Choate and cpunks within a reasonable period of time (not to exceed eight weeks from the day of the test), Choate will not be eligible for the $500 bonus, and Choate must pay the EFF $250 as per point 4 above. 5. If Choate does not take the exam by September 30, 2001 he must pay the EFF $250 as per point 4 above. phillip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Declan McCullagh Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:19 PM To: Petro Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER By my count, we now have three or four people willing in principle to either chip in or refund the ~$100 cost. Depending on details (we'd require full disclosure, of course), Choate could make up to $300 on this, after expenses. That should be sufficient incentive. -Declan On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 10:23:11PM -0700, Petro wrote: At 9:41 PM -0700 7/22/01, Black Unicorn wrote: I will personally refund the money to Mr. Choate when he presents a valid ETS score report for the test to me or Mr. Sandfort. Willing to make me the same offer?
The Exploding Dictionary - Dictator
http://projects.ghostwheel.com/dictionary?define=dictator -- -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Killing the 8 Swiss Anarchists
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 07:08:25PM +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, sorry, there are Feds listening with no sense of humor. What makes you think cpunks is that important? (Besides, the person Don't be silly. We know from sworn testimony in at least one (probably two, but my memory fails me) criminal trials that there are a number of Feds who read cpunks in their official capacities. Whether they have a sense of humor or not as left as an exercise for the observer. -Declan
Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER
I'll chip in. But can we increase the incentive, perhaps by boosting the reward if Choate reaches a certain minimum score? Hmm. It shouldn't take long for Choate to take it. Just a few hours, I'd imagine. Not much work, so there's little reason not to do so. -Declan On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 09:41:44PM -0700, Black Unicorn wrote: I will personally refund the money to Mr. Choate when he presents a valid ETS score report for the test to me or Mr. Sandfort. - Original Message - From: Sandy Sandfort [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 9:07 PM Subject: THE INCHOATE LAWYER C'punks, Here's an excellent opportunity for our favorite resident buffoon to strut his lawyer-wannabe chops. The next LSAT (Law School Aptitude Test) will be administered on October 6, 2001. Jim, PLEASE take the test. I'd love to see your test score. And, hey, maybe you'll get a high enough score to tempt you to go to law school (unlikely, given your illogical thought processes, but even a blind chicken finds a seed now and then). It's only 96 bucks. Sign up for the test at: https://www5.lsac.org/reggie/cgi-bin/r.exe?To=tintro.htmfrom=rint.htm S a n d y _ If the law of gravity is fundamental, why can't it be changed by Constitutional amendment since it's the primary authority? W W \*\ /*/ The Road Kill Group |*| |*| /*|*\ |\- (|\((x)\ -==-||---: (|/((x)/ \*|*/ |/- |*| |*| /*/ \*\ M M verbigeration (vuhr-bij-uh-RAY-shun) noun Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases. [From Latin verbigerare, to talk, chat, from verbum word + gerere, to carry on + -ation.]
Re: Alternative Physics - Tom Bearden's site
From: Gary Jeffers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Alternative Physics - Tom Bearden's site Alternative Physics - Tom Bearden's site My fellow Cypherpunks, I've found a really interesting site based on alternative physics. http://www.cheniere.org - Tom Bearden's site. The site also deals with free energy, zero point energy, scalars, health physics, alternate physics weapons, and mind control physics. Some of Bearden's interesting pages: THE FINAL SECRET OF FREE ENERGY http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/final%secret%209%20feb%201993/index.html - It may or may not be necessary to replace % with blanks. ANNOTATED GLOSSARY BY TOM BEARDEN (of physics) http://www.intalek.com/warpdrive/glossary1.pdf Some teasing bait for physicists: 34 FLAWS IN CLASSICAL EM THEORY http://www.cheniere.org/misc/34flaws.htm A VISUAL TOUR OF WHAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT ELECTRICAL CIRCUITS http://www.cheniere.org/briefings/circuitcurrents/index.html If this site is true then EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG! The quote is from FireSign Theater - a comedy group. Yours Truly, Gary Jeffers Beat State! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER
Perhaps we should just designate the funds, payable monthly, for every month Choate doesn't post anything to the list? - Original Message - From: Riad S. Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:07 PM Subject: Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By my count, we now have three or four people willing in principle to either chip in or refund the ~$100 cost. Depending on details (we'd require full disclosure, of course), Choate could make up to $300 on this, after expenses. Make that total $400. I'm willing to do my part to shut Choate up. :-) -- Riad Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIT VI-2/A 2002 5105
Customer service at Anonymizer/Cyberpass/Infonex
Given the fact that the Anonymizer often comes up in Cypherpunk contexts, and that many of you are probably reading this list from cyberpass.net, which is hosted by Infonex (which is the same company as the Anonymizer, all run by Lance Cottrell, I believe) some of you may be interested in what Infonex's attitude about customer service is, and how they conduct themselves as a business. First, take a look at what they say about themselves: At http://www.infonex.com/top/statement.html, they claim, All of our services are not worth much if you are not making good use of them. That is why service is first priority at Infonex. I signed up with them several years ago (after c2net closed down its shell account service). I had my email address @cyberpass.net printed on business cards. I gave it out to everyone. At one point, they stopped offering new shell account services, and then one day, I found that I couldn't log in to my account. I called their customer service number, and found it to be eternally busy, with full voice-mail boxes. Finally, I got through to someone there who explained that there were no more shell accounts; I should get my files out by ftp. That was annoying, but what was worse was that I went to get my files off and found they were all gone. I didn't need them urgently at the time, and I thought, maybe they're doing maintenance on the server, and they will be restored later. I went back in with ftp today, and they were still gone. I called up their customer service. They basically said that the server crashed and files were lost. Fine, that's no problem. Why not restore from tape? All the files on /r2 were not backed up, and they are lost. Years worth of email and other files, all lost. As they say, That is why service is first priority at Infonex. I don't expect an apology from them; there's really nothing which is a substitute for operating in a professional manner. Every time I have had to deal with their customer service, they have always been less than helpful (that is when I can get through to them). Think twice before you do business with them. On the Internet of today, there are plenty of places that do web hosting. Why not choose one that operates in a professional manner? You may say, if they lose data, that's great for the Anonymizer service! That would be a naive assumption. Companies which have a culture of sloppiness or unprofessionalism will end up hurting their customers in a variety of ways. If they don't know to use RAID or backup their servers, they probably also don't know to check the security of their code. Sloppy one wy, sloppy every way. Beware.
Re: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonpost.com)
At 01:28 AM 7/23/2001 -0500, you wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Steve Schear wrote: I wonder what the destructive mechanism is for this system? There was an article in IEEE Spectrum last year (I think) on one of the systems. The main failure mechanism is weakening of the aeroshell and due to increased loading the missile comes apart. The same sort of thing happened in Desert Storm with some of the Scuds that used plywood sheeting instead of aluminum. It's one of the primary factors of their high failure rate. Heat by radiant absorption seems an obvious but impractical method. It's the one they use primarily. Only because the rocket exterior has not been stealthed via high reflectivity and faceting. steve
Re: Adobe, EFF Call for Dmitry Release
,[ On Mon, Jul 23, at 07:44PM, John Young wrote: ]-- | Adobe Systems Incorporated and the Electronic Frontier | Foundation today jointly recommend the release of Russian | programmer Dmitry Sklyarov from federal custody. | | Adobe is also withdrawing its support for the criminal | complaint against Dmitry Sklyarov. | | We strongly support the DMCA and the enforcement of | copyright protection of digital content, said Colleen | Pouliot, Senior Vice President and General Counsel for | Adobe. However, the prosecution of this individual in | this particular case is not conducive to the best | interests of any of the parties involved or the | industry. ElcomSoft's Advanced eBook Processor | software is no longer available in the United States, | and from that perspective the DMCA worked. Adobe will | continue to protect its copyright interests and those | of its customers. `[ End Quote ]--- Sadly, this is but a small victory in a big war...The last paragraph makes it even more so. But it is a happy thing nonetheless. Perhaps the protests should/could continue? We are full steam ahead now, why not keep going? --gabe -- It's not brave, if you're not scared.
Re: Re: Vengeance Against Adobe
On 07/23/2001 - 23:55, Tim May wrote: On Monday, July 23, 2001, at 11:05 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote True. And I'll agree with you, this time -- I think the Feds will, in the end, drop this case, if the protests continue. And I'll bet the Feds drop it because their corporate backer, Adobe, has abandoned them. They don't like to be left twisting slowly in the wind. And the more Adobe now tries to spin their role, the more the Feds are left twisting. The Feds may be in a maze of twisty little press releases, all different, but if they drop it, I'd bet it's not Adobe 'abandoning them, but Adobe *asking* them to drop it, quietly in the back room, trying to stop bad PR against Adobe. It doesn't really bother the Feds - they can get credit for being responsive to urgent requests, they've gotten publicity for busting yet another hacker copyright thief, and they don't have to take any heat for backing down because they can spin it all as Adobe's Dropping Charges. If they *do* continue, it's because they're getting pressure from other DMCA pushers - they'll need to do a bit more spin, but they can handle it, and most of the people who would object already didn't respect them. Won't bother their public image much. My guess - a couple more days in custody, and they kick him out of the US. X-Authenticated-User: idiom ~~~ Thanks; Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers self defence
At 8:35 PM -0500 7/23/01, Jon Beets wrote: Uhhh yes it will go through the safety glass.. Look at the pics.. One person had already put piece of lumber through it.. That was about a 15lb extinguisher... From what I can tell from the photos the protester DID intend harm to the police. Of course none of us were there so its really hard to know the truth.. - Original Message - From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers self defence Does throwing a fire extenguisher at a auto window constitution probable cause for lethal force in self-defence? No. Because the fire extenguisher won't go through the safety glass. First, safety glass is said to be safety because it tends to hold together instead of shattering into shards. It's not Lexan. Second, anyone who has spent time in a wrecking yard knows things go through safety glass all the time. Third, those of us who are old enough remember that Jayne Mansfield's head went right through the safety glass. Fourth, disputing Choate about the physics of safety glass is as pointless as arguing with him over Gauss's Theorem, prime numbers, the First Amendment, the history of Europe, law, or anything else he has his peculiarly indisyncratic views about. Fifth, if someone is trying to throw a fire extinguisher through either my front window or my side windows, I'm going to defend myself. I expect no less from the carabinieri. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers self defence
- Original Message - From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:39 PM Subject: Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers self defence On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 09:21:59PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote: NATO says it takes a transfer of approx. 85 Joules to kill. 1. It all depends on where and how it's applied. Give me a scalpel and I suspect I can kill you with far less than 85 Joules. 2. Even if we dismiss point #1 above and assume for the same of argument death was impossible, serious injury, blinding, etc. was possible. And use of deadly force seems appropriate in cases where you have a reasonable belief that you're about to be seriously injured, even crippled. Although Choate does make one point, and that's the guy getting run over once or twice. Once I can understand -- the police vehicle seems like it's up against a wall in the front. Twice seems unusual and worth an explanation. -Declan Absolutely.. People make mistakes... People also do things on purpose.. I am just not the kind of person that automatically assumes someone does anything on purpose... I have been in alot of intense situations in my career as a firefighter in the Air Force and I can honestly say people will do the most stupid things you would have ever imagined in intense situations. I would be interested to find out what the investigation turns up after this.. Jon Beets Pacer Communications
Re: Adobe, EFF Call for Dmitry Release
At 5:25 PM -0700 7/23/01, Gabriel Rocha wrote: ,[ On Mon, Jul 23, at 07:44PM, John Young wrote: ]-- | Adobe Systems Incorporated and the Electronic Frontier | Foundation today jointly recommend the release of Russian | programmer Dmitry Sklyarov from federal custody. | | Adobe is also withdrawing its support for the criminal | complaint against Dmitry Sklyarov. | | We strongly support the DMCA and the enforcement of | copyright protection of digital content, said Colleen | Pouliot, Senior Vice President and General Counsel for | Adobe. However, the prosecution of this individual in | this particular case is not conducive to the best | interests of any of the parties involved or the | industry. ElcomSoft's Advanced eBook Processor | software is no longer available in the United States, | and from that perspective the DMCA worked. Adobe will | continue to protect its copyright interests and those | of its customers. `[ End Quote ]--- Sadly, this is but a small victory in a big war...The last paragraph makes it even more so. But it is a happy thing nonetheless. Perhaps the protests should/could continue? We are full steam ahead now, why not keep going? --gabe Not really. It's a victory for Dimitri, because he gets to go home, but the DMCA is still in effect, and until there are rulings from the courts, there will still be people harassed and arrested. And further, weak crypto will still spread commercially because people will be afraid to poke at it, and if they do poke they won't talk.
Re: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime
At 5:08 PM -0500 7/23/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Petro burbled upon us thusly: Another point you bring up is that a LEO should not enforce laws that clearly violate the constitution. A LEO cannot do that *and still be a LEO*. He can refuse by resigning, but if he simply takes the position that he will only enforce laws he thinks are constitutional he causes a violation of one of the fundamental underpinnings of the constitution, that all people are equal under the law, and that the law is supposed to be equally applied. Maybe you should look at the oaths that are sworn to by all public employees, of which LEOs are but a small maggot in a big sewer. All of I took one of those 16 years ago as a US Marine, and again 5 years later as a member of the National Guard. I've also spent a fair amount of time thinking about that oath, and the ramifications of it. them contain a provision whereby there swear to uphold the constitution. Not to follow orders which may or may not be chain-of-command valid, and *hopefully* constitutional. At the risk of going Choatien and stepping far beyond any degrees I may have, the position that each and every LEO in this country *should* (as opposed to does) decide for himself whether a law fits his understanding of the constitution before enforcing it is not only unworkable, but--if the LEO truly believes in the concepts of Rule of Law, wrong headed. As a further disclaimer, let me say that I don't think The Legal Community agrees with me. They're agreement or not isn't a factor in my thinking. I already know (as Declan points out) that Reno doesn't agree with me, but from her actions it's quite clear she doesn't believe in the Rule Of Law--at least not in the sense I've been using it. Now, in an ideal world the constitution would be clearly worded and the semantics would be clearly understood by the people who live under it. However, It ain't like that. English is by no means an ISO (or even ANSI) standard, and even reasonable people can disagree on the complexity generated by the various articles and sections of the constitution and the amendments. Look for example to the issue of the Second Amendment. The clearest plain word interpretation of that amendment is that the no one has the ability to infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Fairly simple. Does that then mean that just about every firearm law in the country is invalid on it's face? Well, no. See, the same constitution also grants Congress the power to regulate interstate trade, so as long as they don't infringe on the right, they have a wide latitude to set standards etc. Or do they? What are the limits of that particular clause? Further more, what is *constitutionally* an infringement? Is it acceptable for Congress to set (legitimate) product reliability standards? (e.g. to require a pistol must be capable of firing x rounds between failures etc.) or certain safety guidelines (e.g. that every handgun be fitted with a safety device of some sort that keeps it from firing unless the trigger has been pulled). Let's get even finer. Do you *really* want your local beat cop to be making decisions on what does and doesn't fall into protected speech (or even whether there is a distinction there to be made?) Or how about certain laws of a very questionable nature that make it a crime for groups larger than x to gather without a permit. On it's face these are unconstitutional, but if the vast majority of police in a district *don't* enforce these laws, but one or two do (under the belief that the constitution only applies restrictions to the state and federal government, not the city governments (there are people who believe this, and absent the explicit incorporation by the 14th (which even by the appellate courts is applied non-uniformly so far) they may have a legitimate argument) then you have a case where you are just hanging out with some 5 or 10 of your closest buddies as you do every day, and the normal beat-cop, who doesn't enforce this law because it's unconstitutional doesn't say anything, but his fill-in on a sick day rousts you all and takes you to jail. It's happened in Chicago, and worse (see below). There are at least 3 states a law can be in vis-a-vis constitutionality: (1) Adjudged unconstitutional. (2) Adjudged constitutional. (3) Not adjudged relative to it's constitutionality. Now, things get a little less clear. In the case of (1) and (2) there is the question, not only of exactly what the court upheld or didn't (see the recent case of the Oakland Cannibis decesion, widely reported to have the SC declare Medical Marijuana unconstitutional, but actually simply said that No silly, of COURSE federal law trumps state law in a
RE: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonp ost.com)
At 1:43 AM +0300 7/24/01, Sampo Syreeni wrote: But I also think the question Choate posed is a valid one: what happens when the target is *not* a ballistic missile, but people, equipment and vehicles on the ground, normal aircraft, or air-to-air missiles? One would think that the lower velocity differentials and expected distance-to-target make aiming much easier, and that effective counter-measures would be significantly more difficult to erect, considering that such conventional targets have properties very different from those of ballistic missiles (e.g. aircraft raise questions of aerodynamics and payload efficiency, wearable materials with albedos high enough are difficult to come up with, rotation and aerodynamic engineering cannot be used to dissipate the heat generated by a hit, people/cars/tanks/whathaveyou often need to be difficult to spot using aerial and satellite imaging, and so on). Such weapons capability could be *quite* useful, especially if the 747 can be effectively defended against anti-aircraft missiles, and the laser has a range and targeting capability on par with anti-ballistic missile applications. Hits on critical infrastructure, control over a nation's airspace, death-from-above FUD, that sort of thing. IANALS (laser specialist), but I am given to understand that with the high energy demands of these types of lasers, and the problems with getting good energy levels through airborne dust, clouds, etc (and especially in combat areas where dust and other airborne particles are rather common) make lasers less than ideal against ground or low flying targets. Against high flying aircraft, you may be right.
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RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers self defence
At 7:18 PM -0700 7/23/01, Sandy Sandfort wrote: Not-a-lawyer wrote: No, the cops panicked... You really should become a lawyer or even a judge. You seem to already have figured this one out by ESP or something. Wow, I'm fucking impressed with your legal acumen. And then there is the point that at no time is the police officer relieved of their sworn duty to protect the citizens, including the rioters. Is THAT what cops swear to? I'd like to see a citation on that piece of bullshit. There is established case law in the US that says the police have no specific duty to protect anyone. The kid who fired was not a Cop. He was (near as I understand) the rough equivalent of a National Guardsman. Self-defence is NOT a sufficient release (there is a term for this policy but it escapes me, I know where to find it though and I'll share it tomorrow). How convenient. Now don't you forget to share that with us tomorrow Little Jimmie. This is a perfect example of why the standard police psych requirement of 'likes to be in charge'... Did you pull that out of your ass or someone else's? A police officers primary responsiblity is not to save their own life but to spend it to save another. No Jim, the primary responsibility of a Police Officer is to enforce the law, which really isn't relevant in this case, since the shooter apparently wasn't a cop. He was a soldier. And what is the primary responsibility of a soldier? Well, in Basic Training I was informed that my basic task was to seek out the enemy and destroy him. Which is why using Soldiers in peace keeping missions is a really, really boneheaded move. This guy is a laugh riot. Where does he dig this stuff up? What a moron. Tim calls it Choatien Prime.
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Title: NewsLetter di Patnet IL PORTALE DELLA PROPRIETA' INTELLETTUALE Martedì 24 Luglio 2001 Anno 1°, release 1.2 News Q Osservatorio Studio 3 Questions 2 ° Il cognome come un marchio: latino è cool ° Greenberg come Tasini: la riproducibilità su CDROM di foto pubblicate su riviste ° Le altre news... ° I segni distintivi di Internet: i nomi di dominio ° Sistema dei nomi di dominio (DNS) di Internet - Creazione del nome di dominio Internet di primo livello .EU ° Notizie dalla stampa scelte per voi ° Studio Barzanò & Zanardo di Roma, Milano e Torino Vedi la vetrina dello studio su Patnet ° Intervista a Paolo Ardemagni, Presidente della B.S.A. (Business Software Alliance) Il cognome come un marchio: latino è cool dalla Redazione di Patnet Abbiamo più volte scritto su queste pagine di come il marchio stia assumendo sempre maggiore importanza anche per quelle realtà che non sono tradizionalmente legate al commercio in senso proprio [si veda ad esempio il redazionale: Roma promuove il marchio della città]. La forza espansiva del marchio pare inarrestabile: ora anche le persone vogliono un loro marchio da difendere e promuovere! Ci venga perdonata la metafora, ma il nome di una persona (fisica) null'altro è se non il suo marchio. Qualcosa che assume o perde valore con la notorietà positiva o negativa di chi lo porta. E' assai frequente infatti che i VIP registrino a dominio il loro nome, così come le aziende mettono a dominio i loro marchi più importanti: si pensi ad esempio ai siti www.alessiamerz.it (per citare anche un caso di cybersquatting) da una parte e www.barilla.it dall'altra... FULL STORY Subscribe Trovi interessanti queste informazioni? Allora iscriviti o iscrivi un amico alla NewsLetter di Patnet! Greenberg come Tasini: la riproducibilità di CDROM di foto pubblicate su riviste dalla Redazione di Patnet Le nuove tecnologie mettono a disposizione dei fruitori di contenuti innovatvi e comodissimi strumenti. E' innegabile che la ricerca ipertestuale all'interno delle enciclopedie su CDROM abbia creato un nuovo e rapidissimo modo di reperire le informazioni che, specie nel caso di ricerche a basso livello di approfondimento, ha soppiantato la scomoda e voluminosa (è proprio il caso di usare questo termine!) enciclopedia cartacea. La rapida diffusione dei PC multimediali ha causato la corsa delle case editrici tradizionali a ripubblicare nel nuovo formato contenuti cartacei, spesso ripresi senza alcuna modifica e con il solo valore aggiunto della comodità di consultazione e di ricerca. Il fenomeno ha riguardato un po' tutti i settori dell'editoria: ricordo come intorno alla metà degli anni '90 guardavo con stupore quei CDROM contenenti intere annate de "Il corriere della sera" o di "Quattroruote". Oggi tuttavia la rinnovata consapevolezza dei diritti d'autore sta mettendo in dubbio la liceità di tali opere di ripubblicazione. Già in passato Patnet si è occupato del problema [si vedano in particolare i redazionali La pubblicazione in forma digitale di contenuti tradizionali: quali prospettive? e Pubblicazione online di articoli di giornale: la Corte Suprema dà ragione agli autori] che, non avendo una chiara regolamentazione normativa, viene lentamente ma progressivamente affrontato per via giurisprudenziale dai giudici... FULL STORY La stampa ° Brevetti - Biotech da L'Espresso Online del 23/07/01 ° Napster da L'Espresso Online del 23/07/01 ° Copyright da The Industry Standard del 23/06/01 ° Marchio da Il Sole 24 ore del 23/07/01 ° Brevetti da Il Gazzettino Online del 23/07/01 I segni distintivi di Internet: i nomi di dominio da Servizi di Patnet Ciascun operatore del commercio elettronico realizza la propria attività attraverso un sito, il cui indirizzo numerico è strutturato in modo molto simile ad un comune indirizzo postale (invertendone l'ordine). Come quest' ultimo, da sinistra verso destra, contiene prima le informazioni
Re: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonpost.com)
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Steve Schear wrote: It's the one they use primarily. Only because the rocket exterior has not been stealthed via high reflectivity and faceting. Maybe. But even mirrors can be burned through by a laser. And then we've got weight issues that this would entail. It's not like they've got a lot of overhead for the job. I suspect that faceting wouldn't be any more effective than a smoothly round body form, it could have aerodynamic effects as well (ie sharp corners at the facet edges - and yes they could be rounded - now you're moving back toward a round rocket planform). -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Adobe, EFF Call for Dmitry Release
From a press release today: --- Adobe Systems Incorporated and the Electronic Frontier Foundation today jointly recommend the release of Russian programmer Dmitry Sklyarov from federal custody. Adobe is also withdrawing its support for the criminal complaint against Dmitry Sklyarov. We strongly support the DMCA and the enforcement of copyright protection of digital content, said Colleen Pouliot, Senior Vice President and General Counsel for Adobe. However, the prosecution of this individual in this particular case is not conducive to the best interests of any of the parties involved or the industry. ElcomSoft's Advanced eBook Processor software is no longer available in the United States, and from that perspective the DMCA worked. Adobe will continue to protect its copyright interests and those of its customers. --
RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers self defence
Wannabe lawyer Jimbo wrote: Does throwing a fire extenguisher at a auto window constitution [sic] probable cause for lethal force in self-defence? No. Because the fire extenguisher won't go through the safety glass. Oh really? Try that experiment on your own car. Side windows shatter into a thousand pieces at the touch of a center punch. A fire extinguisher is decidedly overkill for the job. In any event, the test--at least in the US--for the use of deadly force includes the concepts of reasonable fear of death OR GREAT BODILY INJURY. Believe it or not, being blinded by a swarm of glass shards is considered great bodily injury. Please, Jimbo, take the LSAT so we can see how much smarter you are than your posts otherwise indicate. S a n d y P.S. Any Austin Cypherpunks have a fire extinguisher and know where Inchoate parks his car?
Re: Air Force Turns 747 Into Holster for Giant Laser (washingtonpost.com)
At 06:05 PM 7/23/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Steve Schear wrote: It's the one they use primarily. Only because the rocket exterior has not been stealthed via high reflectivity and faceting. Maybe. But even mirrors can be burned through by a laser. And then we've got weight issues that this would entail. It's not like they've got a lot of overhead for the job. I suspect that faceting wouldn't be any more effective than a smoothly round body form, it could have aerodynamic effects as well (ie sharp corners at the facet edges - and yes they could be rounded - now you're moving back toward a round rocket planform). Ahhh but faceted exterior would deny the adversary less a visual or radar cross section to acquire and track (yeah I know about the tail plume). steve
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It looks like the G8 fire extinguisher was of the ~20lb variety. This is the same weight class as the bags of dog food I buy for my dogs. Next time you buy one get a friend to toss 'em back and forth. Then ask yourself, does that mass represent a deadly threat? The reality is that unless they snuck up behind you and hit you in the head a single might break a bone or arm but would not in any way be life threatening. If you've got access to skateboard wrist and elbow pads get a real fire extinguisher and try to block it with your hand. It ain't that hard. -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime
On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 11:28:41PM -0700, Petro wrote: Will Ashcroft prove to be any different? I don't know. Don't underestimate institutional bureaucracy or the FBI's independence. A LEO cannot do that *and still be a LEO*. He can refuse by resigning, but if he simply takes the position that he will only enforce laws he thinks are constitutional he causes a violation of one of the fundamental underpinnings of the constitution, that all people are equal under the law, and that the law is supposed to be equally applied. This is wrongheaded and silly. c.f. Reno's announcement that she would not prosecute under the no distribution of abortion information section of the CDA. Didn't hear anyone screaming then, did ya? -Declan
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RE: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers self defence
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: Oh really? Try that experiment on your own car. Actually I've seen windows break (and broken my fair share) on cars multiple times. Some from wrecks, some from gunshot (a .38 will bounce off a windshield for example) some from other things. I even once had a D based rocket fired directly into the windshield of a 68 Cougar, it was much larger and going a hell of a lot faster than a fire exstinguisher. It didn't go through the window. Didn't even break it. Side windows shatter into a thousand pieces at the touch of a center punch. A fire extinguisher is decidedly overkill for the job. A center puch (which focuses the force into a small area) isn't a fire extstinguisher. And windows are DESIGNED to break into a thousand little pieces, it absorbs the force of the impact. That way you don't get the sorts of car accident results that were so common in the country up through the 60's when the safety() glass was put in all cars (admittedly Genoa isn't in the US). Things like no heads, amputated arms, chopped off noses and ears, etc. You should dig up some of the old safety crash films from that time and compare them to what happens today. In any event, the test--at least in the US--for the use of deadly force includes the concepts of reasonable fear of death OR GREAT BODILY INJURY. A fire extinguisher stuck in a window does none of the above. Believe it or not, being blinded by a swarm of glass shards is considered great bodily injury. I doubt seriously anyone would be blinded (and I'm blind in one eye from being struck with a 2x4 so I can speak from 1st person, yes it's great bodily injury. It's not justification for lethal force). -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Customer service at Anonymizer/Cyberpass/Infonex
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 08:26:39PM -, Dr. Evil wrote: Given the fact that the Anonymizer often comes up in Cypherpunk contexts, and that many of you are probably reading this list from cyberpass.net, which is hosted by Infonex (which is the same company as the Anonymizer, all run by Lance Cottrell, I believe) some of you may be interested in what Infonex's attitude about customer service is, and how they conduct themselves as a business. I have been having an interesting problem with my cypherpunks feed from sirius.infonex.net - twice in the last 3 weeks or so it has suddenly and without warning started sending me empty email messages (zero length body) with essentially null headers (none of the normal email envelope headers and no indication of where the message came from other than [EMAIL PROTECTED]). And all flow of actual cypherpunks list messages stopped when these anomalous messages started. I presume that each null message I got was really meant to be a cypherpunks list mailing that somehow got trashed - superficially this looks like an out of space condition in one of the spool queues. This condition persisted in one case for 4 or 5 days and in the most recent case for about 3. And then things suddently started working again. So indeed their system administration may leave a bit to be desired - perhaps they are barely afloat financially and can't pay someone to watch things like space on their server queue file systems and backups. -- Dave Emery N1PRE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18
Re: Re: Ashcroft Targets U.S. Cybercrime
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Petro burbled upon us thusly: Another point you bring up is that a LEO should not enforce laws that clearly violate the constitution. A LEO cannot do that *and still be a LEO*. He can refuse by resigning, but if he simply takes the position that he will only enforce laws he thinks are constitutional he causes a violation of one of the fundamental underpinnings of the constitution, that all people are equal under the law, and that the law is supposed to be equally applied. Maybe you should look at the oaths that are sworn to by all public employees, of which LEOs are but a small maggot in a big sewer. All of them contain a provision whereby there swear to uphold the constitution. Not to follow orders which may or may not be chain-of-command valid, and *hopefully* constitutional. As for refusing to enforce laws which are personally believed to be unconstitutional, this goes on all the time, both officially [Sherriff Blah refuses to enforce law X - publicly], and unofficially Officer Y refuses to enforce law X - privately]. How many weeks before middle schools reopen, anyway? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
OPT: Slashdot | Dmitry Protests Running
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/07/23/1956254.shtml -- -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Jayne Mansfield - Too Hot To Handle - Biography - Part Ten
She wasn't decapitated... http://www.bombshells.com/jayne/bio/index10.shtml -- -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: THE INCHOATE LAWYER
Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By my count, we now have three or four people willing in principle to either chip in or refund the ~$100 cost. Depending on details (we'd require full disclosure, of course), Choate could make up to $300 on this, after expenses. Make that total $400. I'm willing to do my part to shut Choate up. :-) -- Riad Wahby [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIT VI-2/A 2002 5105
Re: FW: Internet Piracy of Planet of the Apes (fwd)
Sorry Measl, but by posting this information on a computer system, you are providing a computerized mechanism that simplifies the pirating process for Potential Infringers who might not have realized that they could use your Download Planet Of The Apes From The Internet technique to pirate that movie. This is in violation of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, so you're busted! Go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. And your Unindicted Co-Conspirator Fox Anti-Piracy' too... On 07/23/2001 - 18:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Headers stripped to protect the source... -Original Message- From: Anti Piracy Sent: 7/23/01 7:01 PM Subject: Internet Piracy of Planet of the Apes July 23, 2001 Via E-Mail Re: Internet Piracy of Planet of the Apes Dear Colleagues: We at Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation (Fox) are writing to ask for your help and cooperation in the protection of our upcoming highly-anticipated motion picture, Planet of the Apes. Fox is the copyright owner and owner of exclusive distribution rights in all media, including the Internet, to this motion picture, which is being released in the United States and certain other countries on July 27, 2001. Some pre-release screenings are already taking place. As you are likely aware, technological developments currently allow the seriously detrimental and widespread infringement of intellectual property via the unauthorized electronic dissemination of films over the Internet. As widely reported in the media, up to 1 million illegal copies of first-run movies are now available on the Internet. Fox, in cooperation with the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), the U.S. Department of Justice and the FBI, is working to combat piracy of films on the Internet. We hope to be able to count on your assistance as well. We anticipate a high volume of Internet piracy of Planet of the Apes. Illegal film footage posted and/or available for download on the Internet is usually sourced from video recordings made in movie theaters and digitally transferred into electronic video formats. As Fox is making every effort to aggressively battle Internet piracy, it is likely that you will notice an increase in the volume of correspondence which you receive from Fox and/or from the MPAA. Therefore, we would like to take this opportunity to introduce you to the department responsible for combating this issue at Fox which is authorized to act on behalf of Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation, the copyright owner of Planet of the Apes. Our contact information is: Fox Intellectual Property Department (310) 369-4260 [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Authenticated-User: idiom ~~~ Thanks; Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
High Test Scores == Intelligence
Genome, the story of a species in 23 chapters Matt Ridley Chpt. 6 (Intelligence) ISBN 0-06-019497-9 Especially recommended by you 'bell curvers' (you know who you are)... -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, Let Tesla be, and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Antigen found W32/Sircam-A (Sophos) virus
Antigen for Exchange found PC INFORMATION2.xls.com infected with W32/Sircam-A (Sophos) virus. The file is currently Removed. The message, CDR: PC INFORMATION2, was sent from Deepak Maheshwari and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound located at Cognex/Natick/BAMBI.
