Deconstructing Dan Klein.
Dan Klein has written a nice book titled Reputation which I frequently recommend. Looks at some of these examples in detail from a self- regulatory, free-market perspective. -Declan Daniel Klein is an Associate Professor of Economics. He received his Ph.D. (1990) from New York University. He taught at the University of California, More self-regulatory and free market states being unavailable? Irvine, before joining Santa Clara's faculty in 1996. He teaches courses in the principles of economics, public policy issues, and game theory. His research interests lie in public policy issues (especially road transportation) I wonder if he's done any study of the buying up of LA's tramcar net and its destruction by autoimmobile industry? American economic history Should know of differing US currencies in the past,possible BUMs/e-cash future. game theory, and the intersection of economics with moral and political philosophy. Something Tim and declan seem woefully ignorant of. Professor Klein is the coauthor of Curb Rights: A Foundation for Free Enterprise in Urban Transit, Yes,but what does he think of jim bells plans for car thieves? editor of Reputation: Studies in the Voluntary Elicitation of Good Conduct, I hope he considers the APster plan 9 for negative reputations,soon,real soon. and editor of What Do Economists Contribute? The few that are using physics modeling contribute something.At 1st glance Klein looks like a smarter D.Friedman,thats not saying much,I know,but I'm on permanent vacation.
Future Gnu's
Birthdays;Mel gibson,robert loggia and dabney coleman.Future Gnu's February 4, 2002 An 86 year-old Amish woman on a Florida to Ohio flight detonates a bomb in pants disguised as battery operated light-up Viva Las Vegas! panties. The last video image from black box shows her knocking over stewardess and tearing off dress before detonating explosive. All passengers on board are killed. 25 people on the ground are also killed by falling debris. As a result, all passengers are required to remove their undergarments for inspection in makeshift, screened rooms. Flights are delayed for up to 3 days as lines of irritated passengers wait to be stripped naked by convicted felons (it is discovered that 89% of airport security employees are ex-cons and parolees). February 13, 2002 While passengers are still being strip searched in American airports, a man on United flight 302 from Philadelphia to New York belly flops in the center isle, setting off the nitro-glycerine that his clothes were later found to be soaked in. In a move that outrages the few surviving civil rights organizations, FAA requires all passengers fly in the nude and forgo any in-flight snacks as FBI demonstrates on live TV how a peanut can be used to kill a grown man. June 3, 2002 While Bush is on live TV proclaiming his success in clearing the world of terrorism (UN and US intervened in Indo-Pakistani conflict and accidentally dumped large Anthrax stockpiles and nuclear weapons on all of the Middle East. It was labeled colateral damage) a woman detonates a tube of explosives concealed in her anal cavity. 300 people on board are killed as well as 263 on ground as wreckage rained down on a Shriner's parade in Utah. All fliers are now required to submit to a body cavity search before boarding plane. July 4, 2002 A naked couple on Alaskan Airlines Flight 65 uses a two-in-one explosive compound to destroy the plane. The man had clear, odorless coating of one chemical on penis, and the woman had second chemical douche before boarding the plane. Flight footage shows couple engaging in intercourse, successfully combining two benign chemicals and forming one super explosive chemical that equaled the power of 5,000 pounds of TNT. Passengers are now required to wear an electronic chastity belt that dissolves the wearer's genitals with a highly corrosive acid at the first signs of arousal.
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Hayek suggests that economic reasoning is likely to lead to conclusions in conflict with universal human instincts and simplistic visions of a happy society. Indeed, we see in this address from 1944 the kernel of ideas that Hayek developed over the subsequent four decades, ideas about the tension between the values of traditional society and the desirable rules for modern society. Hayek (p. 47) cautions his young-economist auditors that in economics the ruthless pursuit of an argument will lead you almost certainly into isolation and unpopularity. The economist must not look for public approval or sympathy for his efforts. Hutt's counsel is equally dispiriting. He says that the libertarian-oriented economist must be aware of a periodic recurrence of a sense of utter helplessness: On all sides he thinks he sees the survival of ignorance and confusion of thought on matters which affect human welfare; and he feels that nothing that it is within his power to do or say can have the slightest effect in checking the accumulation of wrong ideas and false policies which they bring forth. He recognizes that in spheres in which policy and ...action can be influenced, he is doomed to virtual dumbness to-day. He does not attempt the impossible. He seldom protests, for experience and history have taught him that protests are without avail and merely damaging to his reputation. He realizes that persistent opposition to the popular illusions of his time will simply bring him the notoriety of a crank . . . (Hutt, p. 34). Yup. The sense of frustration and despair is greatest for those economists who take part in public discourse. One of Hutt's section headings reads: It is as a critic of actual affairs that the economist is most aware of his ineffectiveness. Although statist thinking has, in recent decades, not continued to advance the way it did when Hutt wrote, and although Milton Friedman has had no apparent difficulty in remaining cheerful in his conversation with the public, the fundamental problems described by Hutt and Hayek remain highly pertinent to libertarian economists today Klein in aug 2000.end paragraph...Economists ought to think harder about the economics of Economics. Mmm,should reporters think harder about the reporting of reporting? Daniel B. Klein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is associate professor of economics at Santa Clara University. He is editor of What Do Economists Contribute?, recently published by New York University Press and the Cato Institute. From Economists' Misplaced Faith in an Invisible Hand (reporter declan keeps faith with own hand.) He has written for such Everyman policy organizations as Brookings, Cato, Reason, Institute of Economic Affairs, Independent Institute, and the Foundation for Economic Education. His email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Santa Clara Santa Clara University is a private, Jesuit university. Many valley residents will never forget the catastrophic flooding which ravaged parts of Santa Clara County during the El Nino storms of the early 1980s. The severity of the damage encouraged voters to pass a 1986 ballot measure creating a flood benefit assessment to fund an accelerated flood protection construction program. Since then the district has worked diligently toward achieving the maximum amount of flood protection for valley residents its budget would allow. The average homeowner in Santa Clara County is assessed between $17 and $59 a year, and the average business between $139 and $474 a year. In addition to those funds, during the past 20 years the water district has successfully pursued and secured more than $200 million in state and federal money for local flood protection efforts. As a result, flood protection projects have removed the danger of flooding from thousands of homes and businesses However, a revenue shortfall of nearly 40% remains an obstacle to full implementation of these crucial programs. The board is soliciting input from the public on support for future funding mechanisms to ensure seamless program implementation in 2001. Hopefully the next flood will take all jesuit academics,libertarians,anarcho-crapitalists and phoney reporters far,far out to shark infested and stormy seas.
RE: Future Gnu's
If there's anything more annoying than a boring nut who takes up 30% of the list volume, it's a boring nut who takes up 30% of the list volume with plaigerized articles from other, much more creative and intelligent nuts. This, of course, is CJ Parker's work, as published on Declan's Politech list. Peter Trei -- From: mattd[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Future Gnu's Birthdays;Mel gibson,robert loggia and dabney coleman.Future Gnu's February 4, 2002 An 86 year-old Amish woman on a Florida to Ohio flight detonates a bomb in pants disguised as battery operated light-up Viva Las Vegas! panties. [...] This e-mail, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and are PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. Access by any other party is unauthorized without the express prior written permission of the sender. If you have received this e-mail in error you may not copy, disclose to any third party or use the contents, attachments or information in any way, Please delete all copies of the e-mail and the attachment(s), if any and notify the sender. Thank You.
Re: CDR: RE: Future Gnu's
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: If there's anything more annoying than a boring nut who takes up 30% of the list volume, it's a boring nut who takes up 30% of the list volume with plaigerized articles from other, much more creative and intelligent nuts. Procmail is your friend :-) -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place...
Re: CP movies?
lots of crypto in superman, and ofcourse the ultimate phone phreak clark kent
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Re: Future Gnu's
Procmail is your friend :-) -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a critical mass of drek above which no one will bother searching for stuff worth reading in the list. Without mentioning any names, might I suggest that certain prolific posters need to stop posting 15 badly formatted seemingly unintelligible messages every time they visit. Two or three badly formatted seemingly unintelligible messages might actually be searched for meaningful content, but when I start seeing screenfuls of message headers from the same person, I hit delete and try again a few days later. Odd stuff and spam doesn't need to be 95% of the list traffic. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law
Re: Future Gnu's
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Eric Cordian wrote: There is a critical mass of drek above which no one will bother searching for stuff worth reading in the list. Without mentioning any names, might I suggest that certain prolific posters need to stop posting 15 badly formatted seemingly unintelligible messages every time they visit. Spare your breath. The only way to shut up someone with a mental condition is to kick him off the list, to leave the list, or use filtering. They're entirely closed to rational argumentation. People who have something to say are usually not that patient, and just leave the list. Overpermissiveness results in quality loss.
Decent Orwell Article.
An interesting read in which the author delves into some details of Orwell's life and possible origins and targets of his satire. Includes some neat stuff regarding the dates 1984 and 2000. Time to go read Iron Heel by Jack London. http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/158445.html Mike
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Re: CP flix
anonymous wrote : At 09:35 AM 1/2/02 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: Nomen Nescio[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: There was once an effort here to list CP relevent prose. How about a list of CP relevent moving pictures (and why relevent)? Enemy of the State ---for surveillance and conspiracy GATTACA ---for biometrics, identity fraud, surveillance more? Why has no one mentioned '1984'? I've only seen the 1956 version with Edmond O'Brien, not the 1984 version with John Hurt. If we're going to proceed down the 'state as evil' axis, there's a rich vein of content, such as 'Brazil', 'The President's Analyst' (very funny, and highly reccomended), and many others. I was specifically trying to avoid such mentally-unnourishing but visually tasty scifi candy as Matrix etc. Mostly Choate polluted the list, what a surprise. 1984, because of the televisors and surveillance is ok; Brazil (although brilliant) isn't CP though fantastic in many other respects. If I'm wrong, its because it been years, and I welcome correction. Brazil : there's now a nice 3-disc set available that includes the full 142 min. version, a bunch of commentary and extras plus the sweetened 90 min. version shown on 'murrican TV. Brazil is CP in the sense that the hunger of the state and marketeers for database filler and the resultant dangers and fuckups is relevant to privacy, information and rights issues that once were part of the the discussion. Now it's mostly mattd and tripple-x critter sex. Not that I'm implying any direct connection. mattd - there's way too much of it but it's not totally devoid of substance. The uncredited posting of someone else's work, well, that's a big problem unless it isn't someone else's work. Mike
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Faustine's paranoia index
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Someone sufficiently paranoid to use a remailer wrote: At 03:27 PM 1/2/02 -0500, Faustine wrote: Concealed carry is the only way to go, after I iron all the permits out. What state do you live in? One would think the more interesting question for you to ask is why I chose the word permit--S--. Pick up the pace, Sherlock. I'm a firm believer in mobile preparedness: in fact, every day I never leave home without carrying a complete BOB concealed in a Kate Spade bag. And I mean fucking EVERYTHING, the true survivalist nutcase works: first aid kit, emergency rations, flashlight, space blanket, poncho liner, magnesium fire starter, water purifying tabs, mini- entrenching tool, Swiss army knife, NIOSH-95 filter mask, nitrile gloves, monocular, grundig shortwave, passport, etc etc. (Full contents available on request, it would take awhile!) Your claimed paranoia level goes beyond most former Intel physicists'. But what's so amusing is how incredibly well I hide it. Of course, the most obvious thing to do would be to give you the standard-issue sermon about what happened to people trapped in various historical crises when they failed to prepare ahead of time, etc. etc. Or give you examples of the many times I've actually used the contents of my bag to help others--you'd probably be surprised. But since I'm sure you don't want to hear it, I might as well cede the point that any normal person is going to think carrying a portable BOB on my person wherever I go is eccentric to the point of being downright nutty. Given that you'd never suspect it of me unless I told you-and you'd never notice anything out of the ordinary even if you were standing right next to me--I suppose there's nothing left to do but for both of us to feel smug at each other. Though you might be interested to note that my employer was the one who issued all its analysts the NIOSH-95 filter mask and nitrile gloves. And the first day I got here, I found on my desk a gift basket containing a black fanny pack with-let me get it out of my file cabinet and see here-a one person three day survival kit; quoting the tag on the side: food rations, water pouches, flashlight, waterproof blanket, radio and batteries, and first aid supplies. Not everyone is as scornful of being prepared as you are. Have you discussed this with your psychiatrist/handlers? Not on your life, baby. But given that I know the L, F, Pd and Pa scales of the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory like the back of my hand, it's something of a moot point. A little recommended reading you might find relevant: Cleckley, Hervey (1903-1984): The Mask of Sanity, Fifth Edition, 1988. Hope that helps! Cordially, ~Faustine. *** He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. - --Thomas Paine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.1 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com wl4EARECAB4FAjw03VoXHGZhdXN0aW5lLkBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQGwpHwwWoj8VP 8QCdH0TTTdB+eL8w2JvHiLrweooh7lQAoKETJpsJoDe2GNr+L/E9Reu/n89B =siKw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Cypherpunk Ban
Um, what's all this crap about? You want to publish a newspaper, do so. There's no special requirement for anyone to publish papers. All you have to do is simply print and distribute. You might need to comply with some post office regs about printing ownership info. Hell you can even type up Letters to the editor and post them anonymously to cypherpunks@whichever_server_you_like. :) Call it the Cypherpunks Weekly Journal if you'd like. :) --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ --*--:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On 17 Dec 2001, D.Popkin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am seriously considering to fund printing of inet-one digest in local newspaper/rag that CJ can pick up. On a weekly basis. I'd like to see if pigs will dare fuck him for reading newspapers. Interesting. Even more interesting would be to get cooperation of the paper's editor on the project: (1) avoid paying full price for the space, (2) gain a free-speech ally. Any pointers to local papers appreciated. Here's a little list from google. Listed below are general newspapers in the Seattle area. 1 King County Journal (multiple locations) 2 Puget Sound Business Journal (Seattle / Eastside) 3 Seattle Daily Journal of Commerce (Seattle) 4 Seattle Post-Intelligencer (Seattle - Combines ads with the Seattle Times) 5 Seattle Press, The (Seattle) 6 Seattle Times - (Seattle - Combines ads with the Seattle Post-Intelligencer) 7 Seattle Weekly, The (Seattle) 8 Stranger, The (Seattle) 9 Today's Careers (Pacific Northwest) Some corresponding URLs 1 http://www.kingcountyjournal.com 2 http://seattle.bcentral.com/seattle/ 3 http://www.djc.com/classified/ 8 http://cgi.thestranger.com/classifieds/index.cgi 9 http://www.todays-careers.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBPB2iz/PsjZpmLV0BAQHhZwH/QkUImzp1j8F+6M8Nt4qc0er/jKa0q5sY T+p5BcCWZc1YcryVUJuddOc7DakvX1p6Owk+7tydmPKUW74pLHx+8Q== =Xx+1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Faustine's paranoia index
On Thursday, January 3, 2002, at 02:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you discussed this with your psychiatrist/handlers? Not on your life, baby. But given that I know the L, F, Pd and Pa scales of the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory like the back of my hand, it's something of a moot point. A little recommended reading you might find relevant: Cleckley, Hervey (1903-1984): The Mask of Sanity, Fifth Edition, 1988. Anybody who bothers with this kind of stuff needs to see a psychiatrist. (My university encouraged all students to take the MMPI. I saw the recommended careers it listed for me and decided it was as I suspected, from the types of questions, just plain voodoo bullshit. That was the last such test I took, more than 30 years ago.) --Tim May He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. -- Nietzsche
Re: How do you sleep?,
* (Cough) Bullshit (cough) * www.m-w.com - type in punk, you get this: Main Entry: 1punk Pronunciation: 'p[ng]k Function: noun Etymology: origin unknown Date: 1596 1 archaic : PROSTITUTE 2 [probably partly from 3punk] : NONSENSE, FOOLISHNESS 3 a : a young inexperienced person : BEGINNER, NOVICE; especially : a young man b : a usually petty gangster, hoodlum, or ruffian c : a youth used as a homosexual partner 4 a : PUNK ROCK b : a punk rock musician c : one who affects punk styles --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ --*--:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, mattd wrote: have to choose soon between use of the words anarchy and punk and some punk anarchy 'punk' actually means 'anti-establishment' and 'activist' in viewpoint. anti-establishment/activist anarchy either. The black leather and anarchy crap didn't 'happen' on the punk scene until the late 70's and early 80's. In particular the club scene in England (those crazy Brits and their unemployment, crank horse). When punk really took off (it began in the 60's w/ folks like Iggy Pop and the Stooges) in the early 70's (New York Dolls, Germs, etc.) it was a direct result of the crappy music (if only every Grease soundtrack would self-implode...here's hoping). It was intended to be a return to the 'roots' of rock and roll and to attempt to escape from the large record companies and their contracts. It fathered the current 'indy' music scene. It's also interesting that this is when the 'industrial' music genre began with bands like Throbbing Gristle (ie Genesis P. Orridge) and Einsturzende Neubauten (Go Blixa!!! - You can't build without destroying). At one point P. Orridge was looking to engineer/produce Suzie and the Banshee's first album, Billy Idol told here to stay away from those crazies... Kids... Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it. George Santyana The mouth is the wound of the alphabet. My screams turn back. To lick the wound... Blutvergiftung (Sung backwards) Einsterzende Neubauten -- I throw poo!.Bumper Sticker of a Funny Monkey The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: Saudi Violence in the US
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Khoder bin Hakkin wrote: Saudi Princess Charged With Beating Neighbors called 911 Friday after Ismiyati, 36, ran crying from the apartment she shared with the princess. She told deputies al-Saud beat her, hit her head against a wall and pushed her down a flight of stairs, leaving her unable to walk. Wait a fuck ran crying is in the same paragraph as unable to walk? So either she was able to run, or she was unable to walk. Which is it?
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Re: Cypherpunk Ban
On Thursday, January 3, 2002, at 12:22 PM, Sunder wrote: Um, what's all this crap about? You want to publish a newspaper, do so. There's no special requirement for anyone to publish papers. All you have to do is simply print and distribute. You might need to comply with some post office regs about printing ownership info. Nope. The courts have upheld the right under the First to publish untraceably. (I think it was Talley, but I might be misremembering--someone will know the cite offhand.) To be sure, setting up newspaper stands in public places will trigger various business, rental, tax, etc. rules. But publishing a broadsheet or a newsletter or even a 300-page newspaper qua a _publication_ needs no permission slip or ownership info. There are those in local governments who claim it does, but they are wrong. Their killing is left as an exercise for the marksmen here. As to the space cadet idea that space should be bought in newspapers so that CJ or Toto or Jimbell or Choate or Vulis or Detweiler or mattd or any of our other mental cases, knock yourself out. I wouldn't contribute a microcent. --Tim May --Tim May Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice.--Barry Goldwater
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Re: Faustine's paranoia index
Anonymous wrote: At 03:27 PM 1/2/02 -0500, Faustine wrote: Concealed carry it the only way to go, after I iron all the permits out. What state do you live in? Hoboy! Want to know her address as well? I'm a firm believer in mobile preparedeness: in fact, every day I never leave home without carrying a complete BOB concealed in a Kate Spade bag. And I mean fucking EVERYTHING, the true survivalist nutcase works: first aid kit, emergency rations, flashlight, space blanket, poncho liner, magnesium fire starter, water purifying tabs, mini-entrenching tool, Swiss army knife, NIOSH-95 filter mask, nitrile gloves, monocular, grundig shortwave, passport, etc etc. (Full contents available on request, it would take awhile!) Your claimed paranoia level goes is beyond most former Intel physicists'. Have you discussed this with your psychiatrist/handlers? Are you kidding? That's not much different than what lot's of people carry around in their car trunk. And pretty reasonable for anyone in today's world -- especially if you're hanging around in a soft target like NY or DC. In fact, if you are in either of the above cities and aren't doing likewise, I guess that's just the darwinian/stupidity factor proving itself, eh? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Re: What is a 'right'?
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote: A 'right' is an activity that any individual could engage in (at least in principle) while 'in a state of nature'. So what does 'in a state of nature' imply? It implies human activity a priori to the concept of 'civilization'. That don't work white boy. According to you, while in a state of nature anyone has the right to grab the nearest rock and smash it over your head repeatedly (in principle.) That doesn't make it ethical or right. Right != ability. That you possess the ability to grab a loaded machine gun and shoot the nearest cop does not mean that you legally may do so -- you don't have the right to do so, though you have the physical ability to do so. Unless you are redefining what nature means. While you're at it, you might want to redefine the meaning of is. Better put some ice on that. Clues: (not that you'll listen, but at least it's amusing...) 1. Quit trying to define things. Your name ain't Merriam Webster, and your private redefinitions of words do not affect the common definitions that everyone else uses. 2. Quit attempting to play a lawyer. You aren't a member of that club, and you don't play one on TV. 3. Your posts are and have been illogical. Try to think before you post. 4. Your posts usually address what you wish reality were like instead of what reality is. This makes your arguements useless. The sky isn't bright orage, the air is not composed of 80% oxygen, the earth isn't flat. You may wish any of these to be so, but it just ain't so. Argue all you like, but the atmosphere does not contain 80% oxygen. 5. Get off this fictional CACL rantmachine. There is no on here that considers themselves to be a member of anything called CACL. Last time you tried the self appointed CACL leader BS, I posted a simple request asking anyone who considers themselves to be a CACL to reply. No one did. You're barking up the wrong tree. You may as well be bitching about politics on Mars. No one gives a flying fuck about your imaginary conjectures. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ --*--:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net
Re: What is a 'right'?
On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Sunder wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote: A 'right' is an activity that any individual could engage in (at least in principle) while 'in a state of nature'. So what does 'in a state of nature' imply? It implies human activity a priori to the concept of 'civilization'. That don't work white boy. According to you, while in a state of nature anyone has the right to grab the nearest rock and smash it over your head repeatedly (in principle.) It's interesting you don't quote the following paras that addresses this exact point (ie isolation). Blipverts strike again. That doesn't make it ethical or right. Right != ability. 'right' has nothing to do with 'ability'. One has a right to speech even if one is deaf or dumb. 'right' is a function of existing and defending that existance against threat. That you possess the ability to grab a loaded machine gun and shoot the nearest cop does not mean that you legally may do so -- you don't have the right to do so, though you have the physical ability to do so. Exactly my point... You agree with me, will wonders never cease? -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
Re: explicit govt monopoly rent-seeking (law abuse)
Anonymous wrote : The problem dates from the early 1930s, when utility companies delivered their bills by mailbox through their own employees out reading meters. The Postal Service saw a huge drop in revenue and decided to act. Enforcement became even more important in 1970, Dalton wrote, when Congress mandated that the Postal Service be self-sustaining. From http://latimes.com/editions/orange/la-00534jan03.story?coll=la%2Deditions%2Dorange Postal Service Delivers Stern Warning on Mailbox Misuse Enforcement: Agency tells Orange mobile home park residents to stop using receptacles to send notices, rent bills, newsletters sans postage. . Q: When government acts like this how are they different from a gang? A: Both rule by violence and terror, but a gang claims no moral authority. My favorite is the lottery : can't gamble in your own home but they can run a statewide casino - how are they different from the mafia? I think there is other wierdness that goes along with the USPS : something about price minimums for certain types of mail carried by the likes of FedEx and UPS. Protective pricing structures. I grew up a in a fairly rural area. We all put up our own mailboxes on posts. Every winter the damn plow knocked them over. Some went for brute force, heavy pipe set in concrete, others for more elegant angled pivoting supports. IIRC when you put up a mailbox ( paid for with your own $ ) it becomes property of the USPS. What about the old-fashioned mail slot on the front door? Illegal to possess now? Why don't the trailer park folk do the following : Update everyone's mail boxes. There will be two slots in the lid : one labelled US Mail the other labelled Private Mail label the bucket Private Property - No Trespassing Let the law come down hard on anyone who puts mail through the US Mail slot without postage. The whole thing sounds truly stupid and about par for the course. Mike
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