Basa Andere,(Basque, forest-woman)
Basa Andere Rufus C. Camphausen (Basque, forest-woman) In Basque legend Basa Andere is said to be a beautiful woman, perfectly shaped for love and covered all over with soft, golden hair like a cat's. This Basque wild lady can usually be met near a sunlit stream in a forest, where she awaits the wanderer while combing the hair of her soft belly with a golden comb. She will smile lovingly at the man, lie back with open legs, and offer him first a view of the beautiful moist flower between her thighs, and then entrance into her warm and fragrant body. It is said that the pleasure of making love to a Basa Andere is so intense that a man will die from it at the height of his orgasm. The dead are found with their backs arched in the agony of unimaginable pleasure. (From The Encyclopedia of Erotic Wisdom by Rufus Camphausen, 1991. Rochester, Vermont: Inner Traditions) FROM http://www.primitivism.com/basa-andere.htm Fuck me dead.
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Terrorist parasite quotes Bob Black on anarchism.
...My own conception of anarchism, which I think is also that of the classical anarchists, is that the feasibility of anarchism does not depend upon angelic assumptions about human nature. Critics of the anarchists always accuse them of idealizing ordinary people, but thats not true. Anarchists have no use for notions of original sin, but usually they dont posit that people are much smarter or better than they actually are. Anarchists have produced plenty of saints and heroes, but anarchy does not require saints and heroes, although it welcomes them. The most plausible and reasonable of anarchists, such as Proudhon and Kropotkin, properly pointed to the very substantial extent to which even society as we experience it, as experienced by people as they now are, is anarchistic. Authority is always parasitic upon anarchy. Authority cannot do without anarchy, but anarchy can do without authority (if you dont think so, call yourself anything you like except anarchist)...FROM http://www.primitivism.com/balash.htm
Bob Blacks abolition of work.
...the cyberpunks Bruce Sterling and Lewis Shiner, have drawn on The Abolition of Work in sketching zero-work lifestyles which variously turn on technology. In Islands in the Net, Sterling extrapolates from several anti-work stances: the avant-garde job enrichment (as Steele would say) of the laid-back Rhizome multinational; the selective post-punk high-tech of Singapore's Anti-Labour Party; and the post-agricultural guerrilla nomadism of Tuareg insurgents in Africa. He incorporates a few of my phrases verbatim. Shiner in Slam recounts an individual anti-work odyssey expressly indebted to several Loompanics books, including a major inspiration for this novel, The Abolition of Work by Bob Black. If I am skeptical about liberation through high-tech it mainly because the techies aren't even exploring the possibility, and if they don't, who will? They are all worked up over nanotechnology, the as-yet-nonexistent technology of molecular mechanical manipulation -- that SF cliche, the matter transformer -- without showing any interest in what work, if any, would be left to be done in such a hypertech civilization. So I find low-tech decentralization the more credible alternative for now...FROM http://www.primitivism.com/smokestack-lightning.htm
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Re: CDR: movie rating explosion as every cause-celebre gets its share
Major Variola writes: Caveat: its not State Censorship unless the govt requires these new movie ratings. If (and only if) a theatre is free to show rated, or unrated movies as it sees fit, then it is merely another PC fringe making their mark, pissing on the movie screen. If the rating is *required* by the state (Parental Advisory ---cf Zappa's _The Mothers of Prevention_ album featuring Tipper Gore and Shithead Helms) then some folks need killin' (tm). We await PETA requesting Carnivory labels on movies... just to see how they rate _Silence of the Lambs_ http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/News/03/12/films.tobacco.ap/index.html Study: Factor tobacco into movie ratings New report criticizes tobacco product placement in films March 12, 2002 Posted: 11:39 AM EST (1639 GMT) SACRAMENTO, California (AP) -- Citing a new study that examines the ties between Hollywood and cigarette makers, health advocates are calling for the film industry to incorporate tobacco as a factor in determining movie ratings. The study, published Tuesday in the health journal Tobacco Control, says cigarette companies aggressively pursued product placement in films in the 1980s and undertook an extensive campaign to hook Hollywood on tobacco by providing free cigarettes to actors. Yeah, it's another Stan Glantz special - I really wish somebody would give that guy a freakin' job. You can't read the SF Chronicle for 3 days without some piece of statistical flummery from that idiot making an appearance. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/03/13/MN22992.DTL Professor of Medicine my auntie's fat ass. He's a mechanical engineer... Dr. Strangelove --- What, me worry? -- Alfred E. Neumann
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Re: movie rating explosion as every cause-celebre gets its share
At 12:04 PM -0500 on 3/13/02, An Metet wrote: Major Variola writes: We await PETA requesting Carnivory labels on movies... just to see how they rate _Silence of the Lambs_ Nahh... Humans aren't animals, so, according to PETA, they can eat each other all they want... Cheers, RAH Next thing you know, they'll discover that Fava beans have a nervous system... -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Slashdot | Mapping The CIA Nonclassified Network (just for Tim)
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new anti-terrorist legislation in au
This is a summary of the main bill, which proposes to introduce terrorism offences into the Criminal Code, and also inserts treason offences into the Code. FROM http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=23364group=webcast A website could be set up running a lottery for the successful predictions of the deaths of overbearing public officials. Using encryption and digital cash the whole exercise would be within the law because the person who made the successful prediction would be anonymous and their reward would be untrackable, Mr Bell wrote. murray Mottram,the Age.
hashcash-0.14: new hashcash format
I made a number of improvements to the hashcash software to make it into a more robust and better documented unix tool, including man page. In doing this I changed the date format to be the simpler and more human readable YYMMDD rather than 5 digit days since begining of unix EPOC. So the tokens now look like: 020314:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:7a3ed56af63b7ef1 and the tool is more picky about returning error codes, it will only return success if you really check every aspect (the resource string, the number of bits of collision, and whether the token is double spent). See the man page http://www.cypherspace.org/hashcash/hashcash.html for all new usage and database. (It can also support an extended date format based on UTCTIME: of YY[MM[DD[hh[mm[ss]'Z' where stuff in [] is optional for tokens with long or short validity periods, but just creates the human YYMMDD format by default). http://www.cypherspace.org/hashcash/ I made a lot of changes, so if anyone finds any bugs or portability issues let me know. The double spend database is not backwards- compatible as I re-wrote it pretty much from scratch and changed the format. Adam
Anarchists hijack police protest in London.
http://www.urban75.com/Action/news145.html Anarchists hijack police protest (13th March 2002. Reports from u75 boards, Indymedia and Guardian) Anarchists turn up at Police protest IN what has to be one of the most surreal protests of the year, police officers from across Britain gathered around Parliament to protest at reforms to the police service proposed by the home secretary, David Blunkett. Banned from actually demonstrating in uniform or with placards, hundreds of men with skintight haircuts loitered around Westminster seeking more money. One figure dressed as John Bull and covered in Union Jacks displayed a sign New Labour, the boys in Blues are sick of you. The police brass band complete with plastic 'bobbie' helmets drafted in for the day were drowned out when an assortment of Globalisation, environmental and social justice campaigners turned up with a Samba band. As the media descended upon the activists, signs were displayed with Remember the Miners slogans and others highlighting oppressive policing of protests. Great humour was shown by the anti-capitalist protesters who handed out leaflets saying, We demand a zero hour week for the police to give them fair times for reading, leisure activities with their friends or perhaps their partners, time for giving vent to their frustrations by making love, and to play football with the local kids and for chats with elderly passers-by, with who they could discuss the meaning of freedom. Even the cops found it funny, with Constable Phil Bennett, of Thames Valley police, saying he found the leaflets hilarious and that they were going to publish it in their next magazine. Shouts of You've had your protest, now go home were shouted at the throngs of officers as a humourous reminder of what is heard from police at each demonstration. One seething officer from East London told undercurrents that he wasn't allowed to bring a banner but the anarchists could, and that it wasn't fair. The Home secretary attempts at creating a new type of civilian police force has angered many in the force. Some activists called for officers to strike on Mayday and others displayed a banner saying 'Anarchy is Attractive'. A reference to a Lambeth Police Commander who stated the anarchist way of life attracted him. Meanwhile Mr Blair PM,is still insisting that the majority of police officers agreed with his government. Someone has to we guess.
Re: Tims whinging,what a fuckin'JOKE!
Has anyone seen my mind I think i have lost it. On 14 Mar 2002 at 14:12, matthew X wrote: Please, people, take more care in not quoting entire news articles and then adding a line or two of comment. (This is sometimes called bottom-posting. And top-posting is just as bad. Try to trim down the quoted content to half a screen, maybe 3/4 of a screen. If the new content has not started by the bottom of a normal screenful, that's not right. This must be that netiquette stuff I hear of sometimes,it sounds reasonable...coming from Mongo ,that worries me. Also annoying these last few months of the Cypherpunks list have been the Reformatted: Another stupid Yahoo article posts. Like the one directly above?:) From Choate! Someone forward Yet Another News Article (YANA), then someone else reposts it with formatting errors fixed. Jeesh. It's bad enough seeing endless b.s. articles which are available to all clued persons, even though with dial-up connections (like me), on numerous Web sites. Bad as YAMA,(yet another Mongo article.) I want something done! At least we succeeded in breaking Choate of this habit Yeah,we shure showed that varmit,he'll never pop up next to you with a YANA from Yahoo again,the rodent.HAHAHA! ...now a slew of Choate wannabees are posting YANAs here. Choate wannabees,The skin crawls,Tim as stephen King! Still,If your not the coward from corralito's hows about naming names? I dont see no slew.Two gun Tim getting 'slew' on the draw? --Tim May You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher moral development. You expect them to obey the law because they know that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged. - -Michael Shirley Those who dont obey the laws on this list ought to be shot or hanged? Give it up fuckface,we dont need no steenkin advice.
AU Spooks lie down with dogs.(and lick uncle sams boots)
http://smh.com.au/news/0203/14/national/national991.html Australia's bloody East Timor secret Spy intercepts confirm Government knew of Jakarta's hand in massacres By Hamish McDonald, International Editor The Australian Government sat on explosive intelligence material which showed the direct involvement of senior Indonesian army generals in the violence which swept East Timor in 1999. Defence sources in Canberra have given details of how Australian electronic eavesdroppers intercepted secret messages between the Indonesian officers who ran a campaign of fear to deter the East Timorese from voting for independence. But virtually none of the collected evidence, which could be vital to finding the masterminds responsible for crimes against humanity, has been shared with United Nations investigators. This is because of concerns that Indonesia would adopt countermeasures to foil future interception operations by the Defence Signals Directorate. Transcripts of the DSD intercepts revealed to the Herald show a covert chain of command down from the then President B.J. Habibie's co-ordinating minister for politics and security, General Feisal Tanjung, to army generals and colonels on the ground in East Timor. It provides evidence for the first time that Tanjung, a career special forces and paratroop officer, used a network of similar minded officers in a campaign to avert a vote for independence in the United Nations-supervised ballot on August 30, 1999. When this failed to their enormous surprise, a DSD intercept shows the officers then organised the forced deportation of one third of East Timor's population and the destruction of infrastructure, with the assistance of two other ministers in Habibie's cabinet the former generals A.M. Hendropriyono and Mohammad Yunus Yosfiah. Three Indonesian army and police generals who were in charge of security for East Timor in 1999 are among 18 suspects whose trials begin in Jakarta today over four militia rampages in Liquica, Dili and Suai. But the generals who planned and directed the militia operation appear likely to escape indictment. The leak of highly classified intelligence material is the first time raw DSD intercepts relating to a contemporary event have been disclosed. It reflects deep disquiet in defence circles that Canberra at first downplayed the high-level Indonesian military involvement with the militias blaming it on rogue elements and since then has not used it to help war crimes investigations. Intercepts in February 1999 show Jakarta had sent detachments of special forces, code-named Tribuana and Venus, to begin black operations in East Timor, and that a commander based in Bali, Major-General Mahidin Simbolon, was referring to a militia group as his crew. As the militia campaign geared up with massacres of independence supporters in April, the DSD picked up conversations in which the East Timor army commander, Colonel Tono Suratman, is supervising the notorious militia leader Eurico Guterres. Other messages include the allocation of radio frequencies by the Indonesian military command in Jakarta to militia groups, and a general in Jakarta's military intelligence agency organising T-shirts for demonstrations against the United Nations mission supervising the ballot. The intercepts show the key officer running the militia in East Timor, Major-General Zacky Anwar Makarim, was ready to assassinate Guterres if he changed sides after the vote. One intercept indicates that just after the arrival on September 20 of the international security force led by Australia's Major-General Peter Cosgrove, the covert campaign chiefs had sent in hit squads of special forces troops, code-named Kiper-9, to target independence leaders and turncoats from the pro-Indonesian cause. The unfinished story of accountability in East Timor hangs over moves by the United States and Australia to improve contacts with Indonesian military and security agencies to pursue their campaign against terrorism. The retired general Hendropriyono, who as transmigration minister in 1999 helped set up the camps into which East Timorese deportees were driven, was recently made head of Indonesia's National Intelligence Body. On his visit to Jakarta last month, the Prime Minister, John Howard, accepted an Indonesian proposal to step up intelligence exchanges with this agency.FROM http://smh.com.au/news/0203/14/national/national991.html
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Indon E/Timor atrocity organizer moved to Papua
Silence over a crime against humanity International Editor Hamish McDonald reveals the critical evidence Australia's spy chiefs have kept hidden, as trials begin in Jakarta today over violence during East Timor's independence vote. The evidence is contained in the most tightly held archive in Canberra: the electronic data base of the Defence Signals Direct-orate (DSD), the result of months intercepting secret communications between Indonesian officers involved in a shadowy campaign to thwart East Timorese hopes of independence in 1999. Some details of this vast intelligence record have been revealed for the first time to the Herald by senior defence community sources in Canberra. They are dismayed at a huge crime against humanity, committed on Australia's doorstep and under the eyes of the United Nations, remaining unexposed. The DSD intercepts map out the chain of command, from the local militias and covert Indonesian forces in East Timor up to one of the most feared military men in Jakarta, General Feisal Tanjung, whose involvement has so far escaped mention in human rights investigations. The defence sources also say that some of this critical intelligence in the first half of 1999, pointing to high-level Indonesian involvement, was not included in intelligence exchanged with United States' agencies at a time when the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade was blaming the militia violence on rogue elements in the Indonesian army. The tensions this caused between Canberra's Defence Intelligence Organisation and the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) have been seen as contributing to the June 1999 suicide of the DIO liaison officer in Washington, Lieutenant-Colonel Merv Jenkins, after he was questioned by DFAT security officials about Australian Eyes Only material shared with American counterparts. The intercepts, contained in files classified as Secret Spoke (meaning derived from intercepted clear-voice telephone calls) or Top Secret Umbra (derived from encrypted or scrambled voice communications), have not been shared with UN or other investigators. But they include details of command and communications hierarchies that would provide vital evidence for international-standard war crimes tribunals, such as those prosecutions being mounted in The Hague against politicians and generals in the former Yugoslavia. Instead of setting up such a tribunal for East Timor, the UN has stood back for 21/2 years to let Jakarta fulfil its promise to mount its own trials of those responsible for the 1999 massacres, abductions, coerced population movements and destruction. In Jakarta, the first trial is due to begin today, with former East Timor governor Abilio Soares and former provincial police chief Brigadier-General Timbul Silaen accused of crimes against humanity involving widespread attacks on civilians. Silaen is one of three generals among the 18 military personnel and civilian militia leaders accused of participation or responsibility in some of the more large-scale acts of murder in 1999. The other two are Major-General Adam Damiri, former head of the Udayana regional command, which included East Timor, and Brigadier-General Tono Suratman, who was East Timor military commander for much of 1999. To the extent they face substantial punishment the three still seem to be in the pipeline for promotion within the army and police these generals and a number of colonels and junior officers appear to be the sacrifices to appease foreign and local concerns. The senior generals who were more closely supervising the militia campaign on the ground in East Timor, and who reported directly to top military figures in Jakarta, have been left off the list of accused, although some were named as suspects in Indonesia's special human rights commission report in February 2000. So far, it appears the Indonesian legal process, while concentrating on specific incidents of terror, has not attempted to lay overall blame for the militia campaign ahead of the August 30, 1999, vote, or for the systematic drive after the result was announced to deport the population and lay waste to the territory. The Indonesian armed forces commander and defence minister at the time, General Wiranto, was forced to resign from his later cabinet post as co-ordinating political and security minister after the February 2000 report said he carried moral responsibility for the violence, given that Indonesia had guaranteed security for East Timor's referendum. But now Wiranto also appears to be a fall guy, in terms of political, if not legal, responsibility. In all the inquiries so far, little attention has been given to the role of Feisal Tanjung, Wiranto's predecessor as armed forces commander then as political-security minister, whose pivotal role in instigating, planning and executing the militia campaign is brought into focus by the DSD intercepts. Normally, the political-security
Who passes laws in the wet spot?
Unparliamentary behaviour reported in the house By Ian Munro March 14 2002 The English have long demonstrated that sex and politics do mix, if not quite in the manner demonstrated last week in the Northern Territory Parliament. The territory's honourable members, at least, were in recess late on Friday when a government staffer and his girlfriend are believed to have had sex in the parliamentary chamber. Initially their coupling occurred in the Speaker's chair, but they also pushed aside the Despatch Box to make room on the chamber's central table according to claims made in Darwin yesterday. The Clerk of the NT Parliament, Ian McNeill, yesterday examined security video footage and security access records to determine who had access to the chamber about 10.30pm on Friday in order to prepare a report to the Speaker Loraine Braham. Ms Braham said that after confirming a former ministerial staff member had made an unauthorised entry to the chamber, she was considering asking the Director of Public Prosecutions if there was a case to answer I am investigating my powers as Speaker under the Powers and Privileges Act to prohibit the offenders from entering the parliamentary precinct again, she said. The Opposition Whip first raised concerns about the claims that were aired on Darwin radio yesterday morning, Mr McNeill said. It appeared the couple gained access to the chamber through an area occupied by the opposition. (This) is one of those days you reckon you should have played golf, he said. He said security cameras outside the chamber, and coded access cards would register who was in the surrounds of the chamber late on Friday. We have a few members to talk to, Mr McNeill said.FROM http://theage.com.au/articles/2002/03/13/1015909868787.html On TV this morning was leaders press secretary,said he wanted to go out with a bang.
French,revolting.
Revolt in France Paris 1968 analysis and eyewitness accounts In May 1968 student protests and the brutal police repression of them helped spark off a general strike involving some 12 million workers. You can download, print out and hopefully distribute a PDF booklet that describes these events in detail by going to http://struggle.ws/history/paris68.html When France rebelled People think of revolutions as buried deep in history. Yet in 1968 France was on the verge of a total revolt with 12 million workers on strike, 122 factories occupied, and students fighting against the old moribund system in which they found themselves. Paris May 1968 An eyewitness account from a member of the English libertarian communist organisation Solidarity who visited Paris in May and produced this detailed account of events Read the texts online or print out the PDF booklet from http://struggle.ws/history/paris68.html -- http://www.struggle.ws 3000 + pages on anarchism, Ireland, Zapatistas revolutionary history and struggles around globalistaion
Independent Trade Union Fifty thousand oil workers in Daqing in northeast China.(DUMP RSA!)
50,000 Daqing Oilfield Workers Organise Independent Trade Union Fifty thousand oil workers in Daqing in northeast China stage mass demonstrations and organize an independent union in a struggle against retrenchment. The incident represents a significant yet precarious development in recent labour organizing in China -- the local authorities responded by sending para-military police and deploying a PLA tank regiment. China Labour Bulletin has talked with the organizers, officials of the local government and the government-run Heilongjiang Federation of Trade Unions. For CLB's special report and press release, please go to http://iso.china-labour.org.hk/iso/article.adp?article_id=2059 The Daqing Retrenched Workers' Provisional Union Committee stands as the first successful independent union organizing effort in China since the 1990s. To date, the union is still operating underground to avoid repression. CLB will follow the matter closely, and will keep you updated on this significant move of retrenched state workers.
Re: Tims whinging,what a fuckin'JOKE!
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen my mind I think i have lost it. I just knew that jam on my peanut butter didn't taste right... -- Are we to have a censor whose imprimatur shall say what books shall be sold and what we may buy? Thomas Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org
Fw: VDipl The Internet and the Changing Face of International Relations and Security (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:38:18 -0500 Subject: Fw: VDipl The Internet and the Changing Face of International Relations and Security A few interesting articles below offering a global view w/ some European flavors. An editorial by Andeas Wenger is here: http://www.isn.ethz.ch/onlinepubli/publihouse/infosecurity/volume_7/f1 /F1_index.htm The overall work index can be found here: http://www.isn.ethz.ch/onlinepubli/publihouse/infosecurity/volume_7/Co ntent_vol_7.htm Particularly interesting are the works in the THE HUMAN MIND AS BATTLEFIELD IN AN EMERGING GLOBAL INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT section and in particular some of the perspectives outined regarding the differences of strategic approaches between NATO and the EU with regards to participation in and regulation of the global Internet. Can you say subconcious collateral damage? It's an interesting spin on the age old thought crimes. Hmm... memeocide. - Original Message - From: Margarita Studemeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: VDipl The Internet and the Changing Face of International Relations and Security This message forwarded by the Virtual Diplomacy mailing list: Andreas Wenger, editor, The Internet and the Changing Face of International Relations and Security, Information Security, volume 7, 2001. Hard copy: ISSN 1311-1493; available online, http://www.isn.ethz.ch/onlinepubli/publihouse/infosecurity/volume_7/a1 /A1_index.htm TABLE OF CONTENTS Andreas Wenger The Internet and the Changing Face of International Relations and Security THE GROWTH OF SOFT POWER AND THE CHALLENGES OF GLOBAL GOVERNANCE Giampiero Giacomello and Fernando Mendez Cuius Regio, Eius Religio, Omnium Spatium? State Sovereignty in the Age of the Internet Sheryl J. Brown and Margarita S. Studemeister Virtual Diplomacy: Rethinking Foreign Policy Practice in the Information Age Dieter Zinnbauer Internet, Civil Society and Global Governance: The Neglected Political Dimension of the Digital Divide THE NEW SECURITY CHALLENGES OF THE INFORMATION AGE Peter Westrin Critical Information Infrastructure Protection (CIIP) Ralf Bendrath The Cyberwar Debate: Perception and Politics in US Critical Infrastructure Protection Michael Näf Ubiquitous Insecurity? How to Hack IT Systems THE HUMAN MIND AS BATTLEFIELD IN AN EMERGING GLOBAL INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT Andrew Rathmell Controlling Computer Network Operations Myriam A. Dunn The Cyberspace Dimension in Armed Conflict: Approaching a Complex Issue with Assistance of the Morphological Method Timothy Thomas The Internet in China: Civilian and Military Uses This message is forwarded by the Virtual Diplomacy mailing lista list moderated by US Institute of Peace for the presentation of issues, ideas and conference agendas related to the impact of new information and communications technologies on international conflict resolution, (see http://www.usip.org/oc/virtual_dipl.html). To subscribe to the Virtual Diplomacy discussion, send a message with your name, organizational affiliation, and a brief description of your interests to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To send a message to the list, address the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it will be forwarded to the moderator for approval. To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help on the features of this listserver, send a message with the word Help in the body of your message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Questions about the list should be directed to Margarita Studemeister at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CRYPTIC SEDUCTION
Cypherpunks, Because of CRYPTIC SEDUCTION's Cypherpunk connection, I thought it would be appropriate to present you with a unique opportunity. The adult film market has been flat for some period of time and I see no signs of an upturn any time soon. I'm tired of waiting for the right market and so are some of my shareholders. So we've decided to bring this chapter to a close--even at a loss--rather than drag it on any longer. So have decided to sell off the movie and dissolve the company as soon as possible. To that end, I am soliciting bids for the purchase of all the assets of Desdaemona--the remaining rights, documentation and inventory of CRYPTIC SEDUCTION. To insure a quick sale, I am setting a deadline for bids of noon PST, March 20, 2002. I think it's only fair that Cypherpunks--the inspiration for CRYPTIC SEDUCTION--should get a bite at the apple. Attached, is a Word document you may use to bid on CRYPTIC SEDUCTION. Who knows? If you are the winning bidder, you may end up owning CRYPTIC SEDUCTION for a fraction of the $30,000 it cost to produce it. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me by e-mail or phone (510-839-3441). Remember, the deadline is noon, one week from today. S a n d y P.S. If the list chokes on the Word attachment, here it is in text form. ___ DESDÆMONA FILM PRODUCTION TRUST March 13, 2002 Dear Cypherpunk: Thank you for your interest in bidding on all rights (less TV rights), documentation and inventory for the adult feature, CRYPTIC SEDUCTION. In order to participate in the bidding, you will need to fill out the bid form at the bottom of this letter, sign it and mail or fax it to us at the address/number, below. To quality for consideration, it must be received by noon PST, Wednesday March 20, 2002. If yours is the highest bid, you will be notified at that time. To complete the purchase of CRYPTIC SEDUCTION you must immediately remit payment to us via wire transfer, cashiers check or the equivalent. If full payment is not received by noon PST, Friday March 22, 2002, we reserve the right to void the sale. Sincerely, Sandy Sandfort, Trustee I hereby bid $___, as per the terms listed above, for the adult motion picture, CRYPTIC SEDUCTION. Name: Address: Phone/fax: E-mail: 123 BAY PLACE, SUITE 301 OAKLAND, CA 94610 PHONE: 510-839-3441 FAX: 858-630-4116 Signature __ Date __ Bid--Cypherpunks.doc Description: MS-Word document
RE: Slashdot | Document Retention And E-mail
At 01:43 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: Steve, are you suggesting that making documents into active content is a good idea? Microsoft Outlook letters with embedded scripting is bad enough. Why not keep the documents on a central server, and the only way you can access them is through a browser-type client which enforces anti-screen scraping features. Either way works. The centralized approach means the docs can only be accessed while on-line, though it could offer increased security and better usage tracking and authentication. steve
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Re: CRYPTIC SEDUCTION
I do bid one spam sandwich On 13 Mar 2002 at 19:51, Sandy Sandfort wrote: Cypherpunks, Because of CRYPTIC SEDUCTION's Cypherpunk connection, I thought it would be appropriate to present you with a unique opportunity. The adult film market has been flat for some period of time and I see no signs of an upturn any time soon. I'm tired of waiting for the right market and so are some of my shareholders. So we've decided to bring this chapter to a close--even at a loss--rather than drag it on any longer. So have decided to sell off the movie and dissolve the company as soon as possible. To that end, I am soliciting bids for the purchase of all the assets of Desdaemona--the remaining rights, documentation and inventory of CRYPTIC SEDUCTION. To insure a quick sale, I am setting a deadline for bids of noon PST, March 20, 2002. I think it's only fair that Cypherpunks--the inspiration for CRYPTIC SEDUCTION--should get a bite at the apple. Attached, is a Word document you may use to bid on CRYPTIC SEDUCTION. Who knows? If you are the winning bidder, you may end up owning CRYPTIC SEDUCTION for a fraction of the $30,000 it cost to produce it. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me by e-mail or phone (510-839-3441). Remember, the deadline is noon, one week from today. S a n d y P.S. If the list chokes on the Word attachment, here it is in text form. ___ DESDÆMONA FILM PRODUCTION TRUST March 13, 2002 Dear Cypherpunk: Thank you for your interest in bidding on all rights (less TV rights), documentation and inventory for the adult feature, CRYPTIC SEDUCTION. In order to participate in the bidding, you will need to fill out the bid form at the bottom of this letter, sign it and mail or fax it to us at the address/number, below. To quality for consideration, it must be received by noon PST, Wednesday March 20, 2002. If yours is the highest bid, you will be notified at that time. To complete the purchase of CRYPTIC SEDUCTION you must immediately remit payment to us via wire transfer, cashiers check or the equivalent. If full payment is not received by noon PST, Friday March 22, 2002, we reserve the right to void the sale. Sincerely, Sandy Sandfort, Trustee I hereby bid $___, as per the terms listed above, for the adult motion picture, CRYPTIC SEDUCTION. Name: Address: Phone/fax: E-mail: 123 BAY PLACE, SUITE 301 OAKLAND, CA 94610 PHONE: 510-839-3441 FAX: 858-630-4116 Signature __ Date __
Re: Slashdot | Document Retention And E-mail
On Wednesday, March 13, 2002, at 10:43 AM, Trei, Peter wrote: Steve, are you suggesting that making documents into active content is a good idea? Microsoft Outlook letters with embedded scripting is bad enough. Why not keep the documents on a central server, and the only way you can access them is through a browser-type client which enforces anti-screen scraping features. Of course, if Hollings has his way, your SSSCA dis-equipped computer will do this all for you As always, if a pair of eyeballs can see something, the jig is up. All the talk of anti-screen-scraping is just b.s. This won't stop the shakedown artists in Washington, Ottawa, Paris, London, and so on from seeking to collect rent from hardware sold to the proles. A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked ...A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to start over, beginning with a working simple system. -- Grady Booch
Re: Slashdot | Document Retention And E-mail
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Tim May wrote: A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked ...A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to start over, beginning with a working simple system. -- Grady Booch What works for software is not necessarily extensible to other regimes. A good example of this is how normal engineering practices are worthless for writing code. There is zero reason to believe that as a general rule the process works the other way any better. I'm not sure I'd want to be in a building built like most software is. You wouldn't even need to hit them with an airplane to knock them down. And as somebody that has to deal with his approach daily I can say it ain't perfect either. Ask a Booch accolade to define 'simple' and 'complex' sometime. It's pretty funny. It's worth the additional insite to realize you're participating in one of my 'worthless' forwards. As much as you bitch even you must admit (through your actions if not words, and which speaks louder?) you got sucked into them...not as worthless as you'd have people believe. -- Are we to have a censor whose imprimatur shall say what books shall be sold and what we may buy? Thomas Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org
