Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-01 Thread Brian Lloyd

At 01:18 AM 4/1/2002, you wrote:
>Ad hoc wireless is neat, but don't assume you're golden just because you
>own the infrastructure, and there are no wires to trace.

Just emitters in free space.  Even easier to trace than wires.

>What 802.11b,
>currently the only widely deployed technology is effectively 6 MBit
>bandwidth/cell (assuming, no Bluetooth and other nasties are muddying up
>the 2.4 GHz band, including deliberate jamming). Urban networks will be
>typically hundreds to thousands cells across, requiring each cell to spend
>a large fraction of available bandwidth for transit traffic. 802.11a is 54
>MBit/s on paper,

That is the raw signalling rate.  With reasonable overhead expect something 
on the order of 36 Mbps.

>and it might be the last technology deployed if the Man
>will get a clue as to what is going on out there.

If you have the right routing protocol and interference control you can get 
a lot of parallelism and increase the effective bandwidth of the mesh.  See 
http://www.skypilot.com for someone who is doing this.

>Any wireless data products must be approved (see recent ultrawideband
>semidebacle), giving you leverage to block them just as easily as shutting
>down the odd 31337 port at ISPs side. As long as you can't fab your own
>semiconductors on the desktop, you're limited to what is available
>commercially, which is subject to regulations subject to politics subject
>to lobbying.

Yup.  This problem isn't an engineering problem.

> > engineers can do it as well.
>
>Engineers don't think as outlaws usually. The mindset seems to thrive in
>.com, .gov and .mil settings, which typically also make for low-hassle
>high-figure paychecks. The technical issues are simple, but getting people
>hooked using viral applications is nontrivial, especially in the
>worse-is-better context. User base doesn't evaluate architecture and
>scalability long term, they just grab the firstbest technology they can
>get their hands on.
>
>Getting this exactly right requires not only cunning, but also some dumb
>blind luck. Maybe, higher unemployment rate amongs engineers would help.

 As long as the guys with the money and power want to squash what you 
are doing, you will eventually get squashed.  Being on-the-run doesn't 
appeal to me much.  I would rather find a way to get them to stop (or never 
start) chasing me.


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RE: SATELLITE RADIO OPERATORS COMPLAIN ABOUT WI-FI INTERFERENCE

2002-04-01 Thread Lucky Green

Steve wrote:
> [Note:  The WSJ's take on the Sirius petition.  Pay heed to 
> the 'meltdown' 
> comment from Powell!]
> 
> SATELLITE RADIO OPERATORS COMPLAIN ABOUT WI-FI INTERFERENCE
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Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-01 Thread Brian Lloyd

At 02:25 PM 3/31/2002, Morlock Elloi wrote:
>Or using principles of some other existing informal schemes - like hobos and
>homeless do in urban areas. If you walk close to bridges and places that they
>use for shelters,

i.e. you peruse their part of the network ...

>you will often see elaborate markings with chalk and sometimes even paint.

And often you don't notice them because you don't know what you are looking 
for.  Let's see, this sounds like ...

>Someone wrote a paper on this, there is a whole signalling language used 
>to inform about many important issues - like places good to overnight at 
>and places never to be found at. If a relatively unsophisticated 
>population of travelling vagabonds can develop universally understood 
>signalling that does not rely on anyone else to work, I am sure that 
>engineers can do it as well.

... steganography.  They embed the symbols on the physical fabric but it 
occupies such a small part of the visible panorama that it remains unseen 
by anyone not trained to look for it.  Yeah, steganography.

Anyone who is interested can learn the hobos' marks and use them for their 
own purposes or to entrap the hobos.  The thing that saves the hobos and 
homeless is that most police forces don't feel that they need to 
systematically hunt down the hobos and homeless.  Once they do the hobos' 
marks will serve the police.

For some reason I'm not getting any warm fuzzies from this idea.

You know, there seems to be a very basic flaw in any of these systems: they 
are open so they can be infiltrated eventually.  It appears that the best 
you can hope for is to create new network nodes faster than old ones can be 
compromised (and threaten the owners of those nodes BTW).  That will keep 
the network alive but at what cost?  (Hmmm, if you do it as a trojan horse 
you might have plausible deniability.  "But ocifer! I din't know my 
computer was doing that.  It must be some kinda virus or sumpin it got from 
the Internet."  Naw, that won't work for long either.)

Perhaps the better way is to neutralize the threat.  If the sellers of an 
intellectual property can be assured of their cut, the police won't come 
after the hobos.  The engineering problem is ensuring that the IP holders 
get their cut, not that anyone can share IP clandestinely.  The latter will 
likely fail if people with money/power have a vested interest in its 
failure.  We just have to remove their vested interest in its failure and 
they will focus their attention elsewhere.  Their attention will always be 
focused on the money.

I guess a basic question is, "do the owners of an IP have a right to 
collect money for the use of their IP?"  If the answer is yes, the work 
should be on protection of IP rights.  If the answer is no then do what you 
will.  IMHO engineers aren't good at solving moral and ethical problems 
with technology.

  Anyone want to learn to fly?


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"Forthcoming Technologies" ie "Suppressed"

2002-04-01 Thread Wilfred L. Guerin


Ok, time for me to start blasting moronic feds again.

This time, im pissed about various specific suppressed technologies,
inductive and related communications, non-physical (field modulating)
thrust and power generators, etc.

I have started to index "miraculous" patents and whatnot via the MEMES.NET
[link below] system, as I have personally been "oppressed via intimidation
by false, suppressive environments." (my new theme phrase) .. prevented
from implementing a more comprehensive knowledge management engine publicly
.. designed and operational 5 years ago .. for use in the public sector... 

Can someone say "Rescue Wilfred" sometime soon please? This persistant
bullshit and constant probes and manipulation is really getting annoying...
Ya'll know the history.

-- Though being 'stored' on Havenco really isnt a good option, after x
years, all they have for tactical warfare systems is a rock thrower and no
in-house security to terminate a hostile overtaking entity (or does he own
the place now already? Idiots.)... What excessively great show of
capability and operational functionality. At least Hushmail's overtake was
honest, brits control anguilla, thus, brit IC controlls ic based there,
fine... Not like it was PGP 2.6.2 upgrades or something.

Cross references, { mediafusion, TransDimensional, TimeDomain, MEG patents,
and of course BillB, JNAudin, and the US Army, for god-unknown reasons,
seems to centralize the overtaking of said technologies }

And, if anyone wants to rescue Wilfred, he's now sitting in New Orleans, a
perfect spot for invasion and extraction... no fking clue where to though,
as there really isnt any intellectually secure place on this planet... and,
of course, while the Amerikans teach einsteinian failures as true (yes,
space-time warps around a number, its not like your number is wrong) and
suppress competance in such magnitudes, its not like im building the
equipment to leave for another world any time soon... so... Aureate those
damned feds.

Regardless... 

-Wilfred L. Guerin
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SATELLITE RADIO OPERATORS COMPLAIN ABOUT WI-FI INTERFERENCE

2002-04-01 Thread Steve Schear

[Note:  The WSJ's take on the Sirius petition.  Pay heed to the 'meltdown' 
comment from Powell!]

SATELLITE RADIO OPERATORS COMPLAIN ABOUT WI-FI INTERFERENCE

XM Satellite Radio and Sirius Satellite Radio have petitioned the FCC to
regulate Wi-Fi technology more closely, threatening to stymie innovation in
the nascent wireless technology market. The satellite radio broadcasters
say that even though Wi-Fi operates on a different frequency, the
frequencies are so close that it's possible for energy to leak over from
Wi-Fi devices and interfere with their services. They're asking the FCC to
set limits on the services, although they say they're not trying to shut
them down. "I think wireless devices are going to blossom," says Sirius
co-founder Robert Briskman, who says Wi-Fi device manufacturers could
alleviate the problem by installing filters and making other changes to
wireless transmitters. Wi-Fi advocates say their systems comply with
current FCC rules and that if the satellite radio folks are worried about
interference, they should tinker with their own systems. Meanwhile, FCC
Chairman Michael Powell is keeping mum on the satellite proposals, but has
cautioned that heavy usage of Wi-Fi and other devices that use unlicensed
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Mil domestic invaders scheduled for citizens' target practice in Idaho

2002-04-01 Thread Major Variola (ret)

Boise to be test target for Marine snoops

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=30032002-024315-8298r

 From the National Desk
 Published 3/30/2002 3:33 PM

 BOISE, Idaho, March 30 (UPI) -- In a bid for a more
realistic training experience, Marine Corps
 reconnaissance teams will attempt to evade nosey
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 Boise in a mock infiltration exercise this spring.

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 Boise during practice intelligence-gathering missions
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 Hirsch told a news conference.

 The scenario of the exercise conducted by the Marine
Corps Warfighting Laboratory calls for 24
 reconnaissance-team members to fly to a National Guard
training facility outside Boise in late April. The
 Marines will then attempt to slip into the city, spy on
specific targets and then get out of town unnoticed;
 other Marines will act as enemy sentries guarding the
target buildings.

 Hirsch said the Marines would be wearing military-style
clothing and would not be carrying loaded weapons.
 They will also not go on to private property. The goal
is for the Marines to carry out their missions without
 being noticed by Boise's 186,000 citizens.

 A Marine will be assigned to the Ada County 911 center
to monitor any calls from suspicious residents, and
 a Boise police officer will serve as an escort for each
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 Such exercises by the military are not unusual. A
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 An Army Special Forces soldier was shot to death and
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 proved that in Desert Storm, but now there is an
increased likelihood our enemies will fight us in foreign
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Re: IWAR Threat Model

2002-04-01 Thread Tim May

On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 11:27  AM, Faustine wrote:

> Aimee wrote:
> Faustine wrote:
>
>
> Jeez, don't be so polite, it makes me nervous. This is Cypherpunks: 
> vent a
> little, it'll do you good. ;)
>
>
> ~Faustine.

The way you chicks are stroking each other, maybe Sandy should make 
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At least your chickspeak is mainly flowing amongst yourselves.

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Re: Babel (Re: on the state of PGP compatibility)

2002-04-01 Thread Marcel Popescu

From: "Curt Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I am developing a free program and simple
> specification - http://www.opencrypto.com

Hmm... Delphi programmer. That's a plus :) The minus is in these lines
(nevermind the typos, although this is your presentation page, so you could
have used a spellchecker):

I advocate secure messaging using very strong public keys,
in combination with moderately strong session keys.

This prevents casual easedropping by unintended recipents,
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Re: on the state of PGP compatibility (2nd try)

2002-04-01 Thread Curt Smith

Old software/source code should always be archived.

I am also concerned when new versions of security or 
cryptography programs are introduced, especially if 
the source code is unavailable.  This problem is very 
concerning when "subscription" and "live update" services 
attempt to force incremental patches and automatic upgrades 
on users.  It is even conceivable for individual systems to 
be targeted with "special" patches.

--- Morlock Elloi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Getting caught in the upgrade scam is bad in itself.
> 
> Doing this with crypto software is sin.
> 
> There are no advances beyond 2.6.2 worth upgrading.
> If you must, use 5.5.3i and enable only IDEA and 
> RSA/compatible.  2.6.2 runs  on dos,  integrates 
> with pegasus on windoze,  runs on unix and macs.
> 
> Also, always keep copies of "old" software. 
> You never know when  a "feature"  will be quietly 
> introduced or dropped from the new release.
> (...)


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Re: on the state of PGP compatibility (2nd try)

2002-04-01 Thread Tim May

On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 03:08  PM, David Shaw wrote:
(Adam Back's tale elided)
>
> I sympathize with your problems, but frankly (and I suspect you know
> this, despite your justified irritation) some of the problems you had
> are well beyond the scope of "PGP compatibility".  It's not a flaw in
> PGP compatibility that PGP5.x won't compile cleanly any longer because
> of changes to your build platform, nor is it a flaw in PGP
> compatibility that some buggy program you were working with ate your
> PGP 2.x keyring files.

However, there's something deeply ironic when comparing the "RSA in 4 
lines of Perl" work by none other than Adam Back to the present 
situation, where creeping featureitus has given us multiple branches of 
the PGP tree and the long list of incompatibilities and 
non-backwards-compatible behavior.

P.S. The .sig in David Shaw's message is funny, but of course false:

>"There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and 
> UNIX.
>   We don't believe this to be a coincidence." - Jeremy S. Anderson
>

Switzerland and New Jersey, with major detours for LSD in the Boston 
area (early studies, then Leary and Company, later) and then later in 
San Francisco and the overall Bay Area.

(Menlo Park and Palo Alto NEQ Berkeley, BTW.)

Still, a funny .sig.


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Re: Slashdot | Fair Use is Not a Constitutional Right

2002-04-01 Thread blow

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RE: IWAR Threat Model

2002-04-01 Thread Faustine

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Hash: SHA1

Aimee wrote:
Faustine wrote:

> > http://www.metatempo.com/IWARThreatModel.pdf
>
> Seems awfully dated and rudimentary. Current online books which go a lot
> deeper and put crypto its due place, dead center:



>Well, it says it's an old paper, and the audience could be general. Anyway,
>I enjoyed one of his other papers, and somebody else considered it worthy
>enough to pass along. The source that passed it along probably wouldn't ever
>read a RAND publication, and view the relevance of their materials the same
>way I view lint.


Their loss. One of the most interesting qualities of "RAND-style" research as
opposed to purely academic work--and believe me, I've read a lot of it--is the
phenomenal number of practical ideas lurking just under the surface of every
pub. All it takes is someone knowledgeable and imaginative enough to extract
them and make it happen. 


>I don't know Mr. Wilson's situation, but some people with operational
>mind-sets are "awfully dated and rudimentary," but damn good in operational
>contexts, whereas some people with contemporary analytical mind-sets
>couldn't drive a cow out of a barn unless it was a theoretical cow in a
>theoretical barn, the entire situation transpired on paper, and adhered to
>game theory, graphs and flow-charts. In contrast, operational mind-sets work
>best in a continual state of mistake and against the laws of gravity. Even
>though they might not be especially rigorous, they are especially relevant,
>and prone to decision-making and risk-taking, rather than analysis and
>hedging. :P

Point well taken, but I think history amply proves that whoever first masters
both the operational and the theoretical is going to come out ahead. 

The problem with the pointyhead/donutchomper dichotomy (or "simp/
knuckledragger", if you prefer--or "bone lazy visionary/schizo snackycake 
posse" problem, as it manifests itself around here) is that none of these
approaches are particularly well-equipped to adapt to a changing reality.
Strictly Darwinian, predictable outcomes. 

Blend the best of both and there'll really be something to write home about.


>Again, I don't know his bio, but one of his papers kind of struck me that
>way, and you run across it a lot in military theory. I found his style
>refreshing and conversational.

It was okay, it just seemed to lack the real bite of "Networks and
Netwars", that's all. 


>I have great respect and appreciation for RAND people, (not just for their
>work, but for their approachability). My comments aren't slurring the
>authors you cited, nor their works, nor you. I appreciate the references of
>interest.

Jeez, don't be so polite, it makes me nervous. This is Cypherpunks: vent a
little, it'll do you good. ;)


~Faustine.



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Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5 Re: network topology

2002-04-01 Thread Eugen Leitl

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote:

> [Yes I screwed this up ---ISPs do commonly block incoming 80.  But

Yes, some do, but not all of them. Mine doesn't. Some cable modem ISPs in
fact encourage people running servers at home, offering static IPs and
extra bandwidth. One would think they would welcome inherently caching and
load levelling attributes of some P2P suites, hacking them to limit
themselves to the local network, and using dedicated gateways into other
networks (where content would pass through, and autoamplify, limiting the
expensive internetwork traffic, which requires peering arrangement for big
and moolah for small network operators).

> they don't block other ports, though you'll have to tweak your
> firewall to allow them --although this inhibits the use of random
> ports.]

NAT and firewalling are the greatest inhibitors of P2P, along with dynamic 
periodically reassigned IPs.

> But if the public can do this, so can the RIAA-bots.  And in the hostile 
> future, they force usenet- (or whatever-) transport to remove the
> encrypted lists.

In the current/near future IP Malleus Maleficarum atmosphere once you can
document you pulled copyrighted content from an IP, and be it only a
sliver, and be it plausible deniability your ass is effectively grass. I
think the legal spindoctoring can even include IP enforcement agencies
running an P2P node and thus themselves being warez peddlers, transiently,
would not invalidate the claim.

> >The Usenet group here isn't necessary, just convenient.
> 
> Its a fine anonymous-read, anonymous-write broadcast medium.

Problem with USENT broadcast is that there's a limit on how much you can
carry how widely.




Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5 Re: network topology

2002-04-01 Thread Major Variola (ret)

At 04:51 PM 3/29/02 -0500, Steve Furlong wrote:
>"Major Variola (ret)" wrote:

>> To resist 1. you can use port 80, which ISPs can't block without
losing
>> most
>> 'legitimate' utility for the masses :-)  Or you use randomly varying
>> ports and have to do more door-knocking.

[Yes I screwed this up ---ISPs do commonly block incoming 80.  But they
don't block other ports, though you'll have to tweak your firewall to
allow
them --although this inhibits the use of random ports.]

>>
>> To resist 2. you have to be able to randomly probe IP addresses to
find
>> a node.
>
>You can use the random-appearing pads described in
>http://www.eleves.ens.fr:8080/home/madore/misc/freespeech.html .
>
>A list of "address servers", using any IP address and port, would be
>written up in a text or binary file. This text file would be XORd with
a
>couple of random 128kB pads, and then sent to a newsgroup.

But if the public can do this, so can the RIAA-bots.  And in the hostile

future, they force usenet- (or whatever-) transport to remove the
encrypted lists.

>The Usenet group here isn't necessary, just convenient.

Its a fine anonymous-read, anonymous-write broadcast medium.


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probabilistic headless node discovery vs. a centralist approach.

2002-04-01 Thread Major Variola (ret)

At 03:25 PM 3/30/02 +, Adam Back wrote:
>On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:20:18PM +0100, Eugene Leitl wrote:
>> Yes, probabilistic headless node discovery vs. a centralist approach.

>
>I never really found discovering a currently active node on the
>network a problem even with original gnutella client.

Yes, in the current (lax) climate... but we're considering a hostile
future.

>google seemed to reliably give you a host cache file with at least
>some remaining online nodes.

Google, being a public, fixed asset, is manipulable.  The
$cientologist/DMCA attack
is a recent example.




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Re: Babel (Re: on the state of PGP compatibility)

2002-04-01 Thread Curt Smith

sMIME will always be hampered by Certificate Authority issues.

PGP is large and complex.  Version problems are bound to
increase as some users will remain divided between PGPdesktop,
PGPfreeware, and OpenPGP.  Still others will want historic
versions or ckt builds.  Older versions are limited by key
sizes and algorithm selections, while newer versions are prone
to version problems.

Simple 3rd Party options are important and must always be
available..  I am developing a free program and simple
specification - http://www.opencrypto.com - that integrates
public key crypto into a basic SMTP program.  I agree with Tim
that it is perhaps best to settle on a single assymetric
algorithm (RSA/DH/EC) and a single symmetric algorithm
(3DES/AES/2FISH).  Perhaps as every 2 to 5 years the algorithms
could be replaced or key lengths increased (if necessary),
without adding a extensive feature or significant complexity.

And James, although the best standard may win, a lack of viable
alternatives is unhealthy.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On 31 Mar 2002 at 10:03, Tim May wrote:
> > And so now PGP (or GPG) use is utterly balkanized, utterly
> > useless.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Is there a solution? I would think that a "keep it simple,
> > stupid" strategy is needed: Forget the hooks into popular
> > mailers (Eudora, Outlook, Entourage), forget the "OS X
> > versions of GPG," forget the Red Hat, Mandrake, SuSE, 
> > Windows XP, etc. versions.
> 
> If PGP options have grown beyond human comprehension, perhaps
> everyone could use my software, which is as simple as you can
> get with a windows interface.
> 
> http://www.echeque.com/Kong
> 
> However, I predict that most people will wind up using
> RFC2440 (OpenPGP) compliant code.
> 
> An RFC and source code is far from "utter balkanization" and
> utter uselessness.
> 
> In due course, the best standard will win. 
> 
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Re: Internet is dead (Was Re: Celsius 451 -the melting point of Cat-5)

2002-04-01 Thread eugen

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote:

> First, access, as in path between two nodes. As long as this is under
> centralised control (read chokable) little can be done. Current
> schemes seem to rely on last decade's capabilities of ISPs, NSPs and
> people that control the Switch.

Users pay for a product: connectivity, allowing them to run a number of
services (currently, email, web, instant messaging, games, streaming
multimedia and the like). Clearly, ISPs want to keep their customers
happy, as they know that they will otherwise switch to another provider. 
As long as there is no legislative muscle applied to effect synchronized 
policy change they will do nothing on their own.

As long as vanilla services do not require strong crypto authentication to
operate (Sony, Redmond et al. are sure making headways there), you can
camouflage as existing services. Anything else is far too easy to detect
and to block.
 
> Using odd ports, stego (going via 80) will not help asymmetric bandwidth. Bear

Using odd ports makes you stand out like a lighthouse in the night. Don't.

> in mind that bona fide consumers do not need more than 10 kbit/sec upload
> speeds (CC number and product ID). 

I have a low end ADSL product, 128/768 kBit/s. Bandwidth upstream 12
kBytes/s effectively.  This is sufficient for most of my needs, including
secure telephony. Most ADSL is 384/1024 these days, and cable modem
(6*10^3 customers in the U.S. alone) is roughly 500/500. In selected
places with money and clue, FastEthernet to the home over routed mesh GBit
Ethernet is being rolled out. Local bandwith in principle is not different
from water, gas and electricity, and ought to come from local companies.

> It will also not foil the new generation of routers that will do full
> content-based switching on the fly. Clandestine content would have to be REGEX
> and MUST (mauhrer's universal stat test, very fast in HW) indistinguishable
> from legitimate traffic.

Network transport layer should be content agnostic. As soon as you drop
this requirement, creeping brokenness sets in. It's like using a shotgun
to clean your house of rats: lots of collateral damage.

Further argument: the faster the router, the less time to make a decision.  
Assuming, you want to use cut-through on a 10 GBps Ethernet link; how deep
is your FIFO? What about purely photonic networks, which store the packets
as sequence of bits in the fiber acting as FIFO, and only look shallowly
at the headers?

Final, and killer argument: even pedestrian cryptography (I only run a 
https server) not to speak of steganography makes such analysis 
prohibitively expensive. Something which might be crackable if you use 
MITM, or crunch through canned traffic, but who's going to put up that 
kind of heavy artillery against a few million rubes out there who just 
want their share in pirated movies and muzak?

> The only way around this is disintermediation of routing - no ISPs, no NSPs.
> Self-discovering wireless (hello, Jonathan) is the first step in that
> direction. I don't know what will be the next one, but fucking with "Internet"
> is a waste of time.

Ad hoc wireless is neat, but don't assume you're golden just because you
own the infrastructure, and there are no wires to trace. What 802.11b,
currently the only widely deployed technology is effectively 6 MBit
bandwidth/cell (assuming, no Bluetooth and other nasties are muddying up
the 2.4 GHz band, including deliberate jamming). Urban networks will be
typically hundreds to thousands cells across, requiring each cell to spend
a large fraction of available bandwidth for transit traffic. 802.11a is 54
MBit/s on paper, and it might be the last technology deployed if the Man
will get a clue as to what is going on out there.

Any wireless data products must be approved (see recent ultrawideband
semidebacle), giving you leverage to block them just as easily as shutting
down the odd 31337 port at ISPs side. As long as you can't fab your own
semiconductors on the desktop, you're limited to what is available
commercially, which is subject to regulations subject to politics subject 
to lobbying.
 
> Addressing - as in translation from a piece of known information to the working
> pointer to the rest.
> 
> What I use today come from three sources that I can do something about and the
> fourth that I cannot do anything about.
> 
> 1. My bookmarks - text strings to host names or IP numbers. About 90% of
> lookups go through these.

Since Google, I hardly ever use bookmarks. Though I keep an informal web 
trail out of habit. Should be web proxy's work, actually.
 
> 2. Search engines - again, text strings to URLs, but not under my control. I
> could run my own spider engine and build my own database, were I not too lazy
> (and Google so good.)

Clever tricks (dynamically presenting document hash URIs when indexing
spiders comes by) nonwithstanding, Google is not P2Ps friend. Search
engines come and go, and being businesses localizable in 

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