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Re: attack on rfc3211 mode (Re: disk encryption modes)
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Re: attack on rfc3211 mode (Re: disk encryption modes)
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 04:01:11AM +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: | General rant: It's amazing that there doesn't seem to be any published research | on such a fundamental crypto mechanism, with the result that everyone has to | invent their own way of doing it, usually badly. We don't even have a decent | threat model for this, my attempt at one for password-based key wrap may or | may not be appropriate (well, I hope it's more or less right), but it's going | to be rather different than for a situation where you have an ephemeral | symmetric key rather than a fixed, high-value key wrapping another key. The | same problem exists for things like PRFs, we now have PKCS #5v2, but before | that everyone had to invent their own PRF for lack of anything useful, with | the result that every single protocol which needs a PRF has its own, | incompatible, often little-analysed one. | | More specific rant: Looking at the security standards and protocols deployed in | the last decade or so, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the only crypto | research done in the last 10 years (beyond basic crypto algorithms) was | STS/SPEKE and HMAC. There seems to be this vast gulf between what crypto | researchers are working on and what practitioners actually need, so while | conferences are full of papers on group key management and anonymous voting | schemes and whatnot, people working on real-world implementations have to | home-brew their own mechanisms because there's nothing else available. The | RFC 3211 wrap is actually parameterised so you can slip in something better | when it becomes available, but I can't see that ever happening because | researchers are too busy cranking out yet another secure multiparty | distributed computation paper that nobody except other researchers will ever | read. | | (Did I miss offending anyone? :-). The voting folks? ;) Adam -- It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. -Hume
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-- -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.leitl.org 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 04:35:44 +1000 (EST) From: Julian Assange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Australian government proposed 'terror laws' Australia needs your help! The Howard government is using the `war on terrorism' as justification to introduce so called `Asian Values' (a euphonism used by Mahathir to explain his governments removal of rights from the Malaysian people) into Australia. The government is at this very moment attempting to pass legislation to reclassify SMS and emails as non-communication so that it doesn't need a warrant to read them, legislation to strip search and hold children as young as 10 in custody indefinitely without the right to speak to their parents or a lawyer, legislation to ban any political party or union the say of single minister and legislation to removes the right to silence. There need not be any terrorism or suspected terrorism involved. The proposed legislation goes even further than Malaysia's notorious Internal Security Act. Many of the democratic rights we have cherished as Australians are in peril. Unless the Labor Party is forced to join with the Greens and Democrats in blocking the proposed terror laws in the Senate the government will gain extreme powers to crack down on everything from civil dissent to speaking the wrong way to a bureaucrat. Not just this government. All possible future governments. Australians do not need these kind of `Asian Values'. Bloody government! But how can I help? 1) Forward this email to 10 friends/work associates. 2) Send this SMS to 10 of your friends: Urgent! Howard wants 2 spy on ALL sms msgs email See terrorlaws.iq.org. Pls fwd to 10 friends! 3) If you're in Melbourne, come to the Rally at 1 PM, Saturday May 11 2002 at the GPO cnr Bourke Elizabeth sts. Bring a friend! 4) See the Terror Laws campaign site http://terrorlaws.iq.org/ which has extensive background information, media reports and interviews. 5) Subscribe to the campaign discussion list: http://iq.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/terrorlaws 6) Talk about what's happening with your family and work mates and tell then what you intend on doing something about it Most importantly: WRITE RING OR FAX : SIMON CREAN, ALP Tel: (02) 6277 4022 Fax: (02) 6277 8495 And say you and your family will NOT VOTE for the ALP if it doesn't strongly oppose these undemocratic laws. THIS WEEK is the most important week of the campaign. The ALP is could go eitherway based on a single phone call. Make history. -- Julian Assange|If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people |together to collect wood or assign them tasks and [EMAIL PROTECTED] |work, but rather teach them to long for the endless [EMAIL PROTECTED] |immensity of the sea. -- Antoine de Saint Exupery http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork
Re: Australian government proposed 'terror laws'
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 04:35:29AM +1000, Julian Assange wrote: Australia needs your help! The Howard government is using the `war on terrorism' as justification to introduce so called `Asian Values' (a euphonism used by Mahathir to explain his governments removal of rights from the Malaysian people) into Australia. Jesus, what a horrible fuck job. But we don't need N copies of this mail on the cpunks list. One will do. I would not be supriseed if the USG has something to do with this, they seem to use Australia as the repressive legislation beta test site. Hmm. First they took all the guns, now a few year later, this. Eric
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Re: another reason to avoid airbus: surveillance
At 05:06 PM 5/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: Black-and-white images captured by the cameras will be fed to screens in the cockpit via the cables used to distribute pictures to seat-back video screens. Although only some lights will have cameras, potential terrorists will not know which ones. Huh. Easily defeated. The images won't be watched, as the cabin crew have better things to do. By the time the plane has been taken, the best they will know is that it is going on. Then, out comes the big roll of duck tape and slap slap slap, all lights are out. Special points for opaque tape. A less observable jamming means is to just bring a key chain penlight aboard and aim it at the light. If the light has a suction cup mount it can be mounted to the arm of the chair. For more clandestine use a two position switch on the light could activate an IR laser/led, shining through the same lens, for light/dark cabin situations. steve
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Re: another reason to avoid airbus: surveillance
On Friday, May 10, 2002, at 05:32 PM, Steve Schear wrote: At 05:06 PM 5/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: Black-and-white images captured by the cameras will be fed to screens in the cockpit via the cables used to distribute pictures to seat-back video screens. Although only some lights will have cameras, potential terrorists will not know which ones. Huh. Easily defeated. The images won't be watched, as the cabin crew have better things to do. By the time the plane has been taken, the best they will know is that it is going on. Then, out comes the big roll of duck tape and slap slap slap, all lights are out. Special points for opaque tape. A less observable jamming means is to just bring a key chain penlight aboard and aim it at the light. If the light has a suction cup mount it can be mounted to the arm of the chair. For more clandestine use a two position switch on the light could activate an IR laser/led, shining through the same lens, for light/dark cabin situations. Jamming the camera or overloading it is itself a tell. Knowing the exact location and geometry of a camera lens makes it feasible to spoof the scene by placing a fixed image below the camera. Unless the camera has a zoom, which is unlikely, a simple affine transformation of a real lap is enough. Make it of a lap covered with a blanket and then even the lack of movement will not be a tell. --Tim May They played all kinds of games, kept the House in session all night, and it was a very complicated bill. Maybe a handful of staffers actually read it, but the bill definitely was not available to members before the vote. --Rep. Ron Paul, TX, on how few Congresscritters saw the USA-PATRIOT Bill before voting overwhelmingly to impose a police state
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Re: another reason to avoid airbus: surveillance
At 06:59 PM 5/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: On Friday, May 10, 2002, at 05:32 PM, Steve Schear wrote: At 05:06 PM 5/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: Black-and-white images captured by the cameras will be fed to screens in the cockpit via the cables used to distribute pictures to seat-back video screens. Although only some lights will have cameras, potential terrorists will not know which ones. Huh. Easily defeated. The images won't be watched, as the cabin crew have better things to do. By the time the plane has been taken, the best they will know is that it is going on. Then, out comes the big roll of duck tape and slap slap slap, all lights are out. Special points for opaque tape. A less observable jamming means is to just bring a key chain penlight aboard and aim it at the light. If the light has a suction cup mount it can be mounted to the arm of the chair. For more clandestine use a two position switch on the light could activate an IR laser/led, shining through the same lens, for light/dark cabin situations. Jamming the camera or overloading it is itself a tell. Depends on the overload failure mode. Many SS camera will simply appear to be full white/black on overload. Same as a malfunction. Knowing the exact location and geometry of a camera lens makes it feasible to spoof the scene by placing a fixed image below the camera. Unless the camera has a zoom, which is unlikely, a simple affine transformation of a real lap is enough. Make it of a lap covered with a blanket and then even the lack of movement will not be a tell. I can the MI music playing in the background already. steve
CNN.com - Consumer groups protest forced spying - May 10, 2002 (Replay TV) (fwd)
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CNN.com - Convicted terrorist sues U.S. attorney general - May 10, 2002 (fwd)
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The Register - Usenet death penalty imposed on blueyonder (fwd)
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The Register - UK business to embrace electronic filing - by law (e-business) (fwd)
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Re: another reason to avoid airbus: surveillance
On Friday 10 May 2002 07:32 pm, Steve Schear wrote: A less observable jamming means is to just bring a key chain penlight aboard and aim it at the light. If the light has a suction cup mount it can be mounted to the arm of the chair. For more clandestine use a two position switch on the light could activate an IR laser/led, shining through the same lens, for light/dark cabin situations. steve You mean a couple of these? http://www.photonlight.com/index2.html (They even make an infrared one too!) Damn! Should have kept my mouth shut. Now I guess I'll have to leave them at home with my Leatherman Micra and my nail clippers :) -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn http://www.njohnsn.com/ PGP key available on request.
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Re: UK e-money legal, sort-of
--- begin forwarded text Status: U User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1331 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:34:58 +0100 Subject: Re: UK e-money legal, sort-of From: David G.W. Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Digital Bearer Settlement List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Bob Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] R. A. Hettinga e-said: I can't remember if this came up (maybe in a post I deleted). Forwarded without permission from the UKcrypto list. It points to http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/23/25070.html - the nub of the article is: anybody that wishes to issue electronic money can do so as long as they satisfy a number of core criteria specified by the Financial Services [snip] The detailed FSA presentation is on the Digital Money Forum web site at www.digitalmoneyforum.com Regards, Dave Birch. ... My own opinion (I think!) given solely in my capacity as ... ... an interested member of the general public ... ...... ... mail(at)birches.org . http://www.davebirch.org/ ... --- end forwarded text -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering 2002 - CFP
--- begin forwarded text Status: U Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 22:31:51 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], e$@vmeng.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Fearghas McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering 2002 - CFP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Third Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering Conference 28-29 June, 2002 The Signet Library Parliament Square Edinburgh, Scotland C A L L F O R P R E S E N T A T I O N S Edinburgh is again host to the international *engineering* conference on Financial Cryptography. Individuals and companies active in the field are invited to present and especially to demonstrate Running Code that pushes forward the state of the art. STATEMENT OF INTENT In spite of the excesses and tragedies of the Great Dot Com era, we have come to the realization that the Internet, Commerce, and Technology are inextricably related. We are therefore gathered together to study, as a community, the application of Cryptograpy and Information Security to the world of Finance. For it is Finance that drives Commerce, and Commerce, in the modern era, is based on the 'net. This is a technical, practical meet. Presentations of demonstrable technology in the field of Financial Cryptography are invited. As this is a practical conference, we are hoping to accept every demonstrator. THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT This conference is about implementations. Presentations are required to demonstrate working code within the first five minutes. Note that we are delighted to accept proposals from work-in-progress projects. If your demo crashes while honorably attempting to execute, the crowd will still love you. THE VENUE Our Venue is the Upper Library, within the Signet Library, which is a listed building housing the Society of Writers to Her Majesty's Signet. This exclusive conference venue is located in the centre of Edinburgh, within the Royal Mile. ADMINISTRATION Included in the conference admission will be breakfast, lunch and tea coffee breaks. Also included will be the conference dinner in a local Edinburgh establishment. The conference administration will block-book a convenient hotel in the centre of town. Details to be advised. NEXT STEPS FOR PRESENTERS 1. Save the dates 28/29 June 2002, Friday and Saturday on your calendar. It is good to plan on a few extra days, and especially, leaving on the day after, Sunday, will help to get the best fares. 2. Prepare your presentation. Check the evolving programme at http://www.efce.net/programme.html. Propose your presentation by mailing the Programme Chair, Rodney Thayer, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. Book passage to Edinburgh. Don't forget to stay a few days on either side to see the sights. Check the site for Locatives and Logistics. 4. Work on your presentation. Remember, the main rule is that you demo working code. 5. Get your budget approved / allocated / applied for. Whilst a commercial conference, accepted presenters will pay a deeply discounted fee, to be announced in a forthcoming release. For planning purposes, 200 GBP (approximately 300 dollars or 320 euros) should cover presenter's admission; the hotel should be about 100 GBP ($150 or E160) per night. Also include travel and incidentals in your budget. 6. The call for delegates -- attendees who do not present -- will by published at a later date. If there is someone in your organisation who needs to survey the state of the financially cryptographic art, they can attend as a delegate. For planning purposes, 500 GBP ($750 or E800) should cover the delegate's admission. 7. If you think the conference can benefit your organisation, consider sponsoring. Contact the Sponsorship Chair Fearghas McKay, [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details. 8. Keep an eye on the conference web site (www.efce.net) for evolving details. EFCE2002 COMMITTEE Fearghas McKay General and Sponsorship Chair[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rodney Thayer Programme Chair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rachel Willmer Finance Chair[EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORSHIP EFCE is supported by these companies active in Financial Cryptography: * Intertrader Ltd, an Edinburgh-based e-payments middleware and applications company. http://www.intertrader.com/ * Declarator.net, a supplier of Distributed Trust Appliances. http://www.declarator.net/ --- end forwarded text -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: UK e-money legal, sort-of
Sorry Adam, that wasn't me, I just quoted it from the article in the Register. So I know no more. Ken Adam Back wrote: On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 04:09:23PM +0100, Ken Brown wrote: anybody that wishes to issue electronic money can do so as long as they satisfy a number of core criteria specified by the Financial Services Authority (FSA), without having to first obtain a banking license. In essence this means that as long as the issuers of the e-money can meet the capital requirements of one million Euros or 2 percent of the e-money to be issued, they are free to do so. Do you know is that minimum or maximum of those two figures? ie if you have 2% of capital you issue is that enough or does it have to be larger of those. GBP 600K (USD 900K) is still a lot of money for a small scale operation. If it were the former it might be more plausible that someone might set something up as a hobby operation. The tricky part as ever will be putting money into the system if it's anonymous ecash, to limit fraud. Interfacing anonymous to non-anonymous transaction systems is a problem. The convenient non-anonymous transactions systems (credit cards, debit cards) typically are quite vulnerable to fraud and have weak security systems. There is a limit of one thousand pounds sterling on the maximum 'purse' value; the e-money must be redeemable within five days and the currency must be usable for at least one year. What does the redeemable within five days mean -- that this is the maximum processing time for in-transfers or for out-transfers? Adam -- http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/
Re: attack on rfc3211 mode (Re: disk encryption modes)
Adam Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can see that, but the security of CBC MAC relies on the secrecy of the ciphertexts leading up to the last block. In the case of the mode you describe in RFC3211, the ciphertexts are not revealed directly but they are protected under a mode which has the same splicing attack. The splicing attack on CBC MAC with leading ciphertext works through CBC encryption, here's how that works: Right. One minor point, the IV is never zero, for disk encryption it's a cryptographic transform of the sector number, for PWRI it's supplied by the CMS algorithm parameter (this doesn't affect the attack). I would have thought this would be considered a 'break' of a non-malleable cipher mode as discussed for disk encryption where each bit of plaintext depends on each bit of ciphertext as would be the case with a secure cipher matching Mercy's design goals (a block cipher used in ECB mode with a different key per block). Yup. Actually the no-stored-IV encryption was never designed to be a non- malleable cipher mode, the design goal was to allow encryption-with-IV without having to explicitly store an IV. For PWRI it has the additional nice feature of avoiding collisions when you use a 64-bit block cipher, which is probably going to be the case for some time to come even with AES around. It was only after all that that I noticed that the first pass was effectively a CBC-MAC, but it didn't seem important enough to mention it in the RFC since it wasn't an essential property (good thing I didn't :-). With a disk mode, unlike with RFC3211 pasword based encryption for CMS there is no place to store the structure inside the plaintext which may to some extent defend against this attack. Even with PWRI you get at most ~32 bits of protection, and can bypass even that if you encrypt 5 or more 64-bit blocks and mess up the second block, since the garble will propagate to at most 4 of the 5 blocks. The 32-bit limit was deliberate, I was worried about dictionary attacks above all else (in fact the first version of the wrap was a bit too paranoid in that it had no redundancy at all, which unfortunately meant that it wasn't possible to catch incorrect passwords. User complaints lead to the addition of the 24-bit check value which is enough to catch virtually all mistyped passwords but not enough to provide more than a small reduction in the number of guesses necessary for an attacker. The length byte is there so an attacker can't perform an iterative attack where they change the algorithm ID for the wrapped key to 40-bit RC4 and brute-force it, then 56-bit DES and brute-force the 16-bit difference, then 80- bit Skipjack, 112-bit two-key 3DES, and finally 128-bit AES. There was another key wrap design where this was possible). Digressing from the original disk-sector-encryption, I'd be interested in some debate on the requirements for password-based key wrapping. The design goals I used were: 1. Resistance to dictionary/password-guessing attacks above all else. 2. No need to use additional algorithms like hash algorithms (see the RFC for the rationale, to save me typing it all in again). The reason for 1. is that provided you use a secure cipher the best approach for an attacker is going to be a dictionary attack or similar attack on the password used to wrap the key. Since the wrapping key is going to be used to protect things like long-term private keys, this is an extremely high-value item. Note that the immunity to key-guessing requirement is mutually exclusive with modification-detection, since (for example) storing a SHA-1 hash would allow you to immediately verify whether you'd found the password/key. This is the exact problem which PKCS #12 has, you don't need to attack the key wrap since the MAC on the wrapped data is a much easier target. There's another key wrap which stores a full SHA-1 hash alongside the wrapped key (to protect against some problems present in an earlier version of the same key wrap mechanism, which fell to fairly trivial attacks). This is great for integrity protection, but terrible for security, since it allows you to verify with pretty much 100% accuracy whether you've guessed the password.I also looked at some sort of OAEP-like wrapping (or, more generally, a Feistel-like construct of the kind used in OAEP), but it seemed a bit ad-hoc when used with symmetric key wrap rather than RSA. Does anyone have any thoughts on symmetric key wrap, and specifically the differences between high-value and low-value (ephemeral) key wrap requirements? General rant: It's amazing that there doesn't seem to be any published research on such a fundamental crypto mechanism, with the result that everyone has to invent their own way of doing it, usually badly. We don't even have a decent threat model for this, my attempt at one for password-based key wrap may or may not be appropriate (well, I hope it's more or less right), but it's going to be
re: Australian government proposed 'terror laws'
Australia needs your help! The Howard government is using the `war on terrorism' as justification to introduce so called `Asian Values' (a euphonism used by Mahathir to explain his governments removal of rights from the Malaysian people) into Australia. Ha, ha! You know the old saying, If you have a gun, your're a citizen. Without it you're a subject. I guess you now know how it feels to be a subject of an increasingly oppressive regime. Sorry, but I won't shed a tear for the foolish. My suggestion: You made your bed. Time to take a nap. ks
Re: Australian government proposed 'terror laws'
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 04:35:29AM +1000, Julian Assange wrote: Australia needs your help! The Howard government is using the `war on terrorism' as justification to introduce so called `Asian Values' (a euphonism used by Mahathir to explain his governments removal of rights from the Malaysian people) into Australia. Jesus, what a horrible fuck job. But we don't need N copies of this mail on the cpunks list. One will do. I would not be supriseed if the USG has something to do with this, they seem to use Australia as the repressive legislation beta test site. Hmm. First they took all the guns, now a few year later, this. Eric
Re: attack on rfc3211 mode (Re: disk encryption modes)
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 04:01:11AM +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: | General rant: It's amazing that there doesn't seem to be any published research | on such a fundamental crypto mechanism, with the result that everyone has to | invent their own way of doing it, usually badly. We don't even have a decent | threat model for this, my attempt at one for password-based key wrap may or | may not be appropriate (well, I hope it's more or less right), but it's going | to be rather different than for a situation where you have an ephemeral | symmetric key rather than a fixed, high-value key wrapping another key. The | same problem exists for things like PRFs, we now have PKCS #5v2, but before | that everyone had to invent their own PRF for lack of anything useful, with | the result that every single protocol which needs a PRF has its own, | incompatible, often little-analysed one. | | More specific rant: Looking at the security standards and protocols deployed in | the last decade or so, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the only crypto | research done in the last 10 years (beyond basic crypto algorithms) was | STS/SPEKE and HMAC. There seems to be this vast gulf between what crypto | researchers are working on and what practitioners actually need, so while | conferences are full of papers on group key management and anonymous voting | schemes and whatnot, people working on real-world implementations have to | home-brew their own mechanisms because there's nothing else available. The | RFC 3211 wrap is actually parameterised so you can slip in something better | when it becomes available, but I can't see that ever happening because | researchers are too busy cranking out yet another secure multiparty | distributed computation paper that nobody except other researchers will ever | read. | | (Did I miss offending anyone? :-). The voting folks? ;) Adam -- It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. -Hume
Re: another reason to avoid airbus: surveillance
At 05:06 PM 5/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: Black-and-white images captured by the cameras will be fed to screens in the cockpit via the cables used to distribute pictures to seat-back video screens. Although only some lights will have cameras, potential terrorists will not know which ones. Huh. Easily defeated. The images won't be watched, as the cabin crew have better things to do. By the time the plane has been taken, the best they will know is that it is going on. Then, out comes the big roll of duck tape and slap slap slap, all lights are out. Special points for opaque tape. A less observable jamming means is to just bring a key chain penlight aboard and aim it at the light. If the light has a suction cup mount it can be mounted to the arm of the chair. For more clandestine use a two position switch on the light could activate an IR laser/led, shining through the same lens, for light/dark cabin situations. steve
Re: another reason to avoid airbus: surveillance
On Friday, May 10, 2002, at 05:32 PM, Steve Schear wrote: At 05:06 PM 5/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: Black-and-white images captured by the cameras will be fed to screens in the cockpit via the cables used to distribute pictures to seat-back video screens. Although only some lights will have cameras, potential terrorists will not know which ones. Huh. Easily defeated. The images won't be watched, as the cabin crew have better things to do. By the time the plane has been taken, the best they will know is that it is going on. Then, out comes the big roll of duck tape and slap slap slap, all lights are out. Special points for opaque tape. A less observable jamming means is to just bring a key chain penlight aboard and aim it at the light. If the light has a suction cup mount it can be mounted to the arm of the chair. For more clandestine use a two position switch on the light could activate an IR laser/led, shining through the same lens, for light/dark cabin situations. Jamming the camera or overloading it is itself a tell. Knowing the exact location and geometry of a camera lens makes it feasible to spoof the scene by placing a fixed image below the camera. Unless the camera has a zoom, which is unlikely, a simple affine transformation of a real lap is enough. Make it of a lap covered with a blanket and then even the lack of movement will not be a tell. --Tim May They played all kinds of games, kept the House in session all night, and it was a very complicated bill. Maybe a handful of staffers actually read it, but the bill definitely was not available to members before the vote. --Rep. Ron Paul, TX, on how few Congresscritters saw the USA-PATRIOT Bill before voting overwhelmingly to impose a police state
