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FROM THE DESK OF: MR MARTINS EWA REPLY TO :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Good day, I am MR MARTINS EWA, head of the accounts/operations dept. of one of the leading merchant banks in Nigeria..I have an urgent and very confidential business proposition for you. On December 8, 1998, an American Oil consultant/contractor with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, Mrs.Ann Barbara Myers made a numbered time (Fixed) Deposit for twelve calendar months, valued at US$25,000,000.00(Twenty-five Million Dollars) in my branch.Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to her forwarding address but got no reply.After a month,we sent a reminder and finally we discovered from her contract employers, the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation that Mrs.Ann Barbara Myers died from a ghastly automobile accident.On further investigation,I found out that she died without making a WILL, and all attempts to trace his next of kin was fruitless. I therefore made further investigation and discovered that Mrs.Ann Barbara Myers did not declare any next of kin or relations in all her official documents, including her Bank Deposit paperwork in my Bank. This sum of US$25,000,000.00 is still sitting in my Bank and the interest is being rolled over with the principal sum at the end of each year.No one will ever come forward to claim it.According to Nigerian Law, at the expiration of 5 (five) years, the money will revert to the ownership of the Nigerian Government if nobody applies to claim this fund. Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a foriegner to stand in as the next of kin to Mrs.Ann Barbara Myers so that the fruits of this woman's labor will not get into the hands of some corrupt government officials.This is simple, I will like you to provide immediately your full names and address so that the Attorney will prepare the necessary documents and affidavits which will put you in place as the next of kin. We shall employ the services of two Attorneys for drafting and notarization of the WILL and to obtain the necessary documents and letter of probate/administration in your favor for the transfer. We would need you as a Foreigner acting as the next of kin and sole benefactor to the inheritance of Mrs.Ann Barbara Myers to travel and claim this money in a SECURITY COMPANY based in Europe which is used by my bank as an offshore payment center to the bank.The money will be paid to you for us to share in the ratio of 60% for me and 40% for you. There is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this transaction will be done by the Attorney and my position as the head of the accounts/operations dept guarantees the successful execution of this transaction. If you are interested, please reply immediately via the private email address below. Upon your response, I shall then provide you with more details and relevant documents that will help you understand the transaction. Please observe utmost confidentiality, and rest assured that this transaction would be most profitable for both of us because I shall require your assistance to invest my share in your country. Awaiting your urgent reply via my email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks and regards. MR MARTINS EWA
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Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down
I thought the 3G (UMTS) cellphones at least were going to use reasonably good crypto; don't know about the overall security architecture though. Jaap-Henk On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:30:04 -0400 Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Kelsey wrote: So, what can I do about it, as an individual? Make the cellphone companies build good crypto into their systems? Any ideas how to do that? Nope. Cellphone companies are big slow moving targets. They get their franchise from the government. If the NSA wants weak crypto, they do weak crypto. -- Jaap-Henk Hoepman | I've got sunshine in my pockets Dept. of Computer Science | Brought it back to spray the day University of Nijmegen |Gry Rocket (w) www.cs.kun.nl/~jhh | (m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (t) +31 24 36 52710/531532 | (f) +31 24 3653137
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article by Edward Tenner, Technology review, June 2003 p61-64 Also an article on deceipt detector p67-69 about using IR reflectivity of your frontal lobes to detect deceipt. Sort of a polygraph on steroids. (sorry, only cites, not URLs this time)
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Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down
Rich Salz wrote: Perhaps a few best practices papers are in order. They might help the secure (distributed) computing field a great deal. /r$ -- The new book, Practical Cryptography, by Niels Ferguson and Bruce Schneier is useful. regards, Frederick
Re: An attack on paypal
At 02:55 PM 6/8/2003, James A. Donald wrote: Attached is a spam mail that constitutes an attack on paypal similar in effect and method to man in the middle. The bottom line is that https just is not working. Its broken. The fact that people keep using shared secrets is a symptom of https not working. The flaw in https is that you cannot operate the business and trust model using https that you can with shared secrets. I don't think it's https that's broken, since https wasn't intended to solve the customer authentication / authorization problem (you could try to use SSL's client certificates for that, but no one ever intended client certificate authentication to be a generalized transaction problem). When I responded to this before, I thought you were talking about the server auth problem, not the password problem. I continue to feel that the server authentication problem is a very hard problem to solve, since there's few hints to the browser as to what the user's intent is. The password problem does need to be solved, but complaining that HTTPS or SSL doesn't solve it isn't any more relevant than complaining that it's not solved by HTML, HTTP, and/or browser or server implementations, since any and all of these are needed in producing a new solution which can function with real businesses and real users. Let's face it, passwords are so deeply ingrained into people's lives that nothing which is more complex in any way than passwords is going to have broad acceptance, and any consumer-driven company is going to consider easy to be more important that secure. Right now, my best idea for solving this problem is to: - Standardize an HTML input method for FORM which does an SPEKE (or similar) mutual authentication. - Get browser makers to design better ways to communicate to users that UI elements can be trusted. For example, a proposal I saw recently which would have the OS decorate the borders of trusted windows with facts or images that an attacker wouldn't be able to predict: the name of your dog, or whatever. (Sorry, can't locate a link right now, but I'd appreciate one.) - Combine the two to allow sites to provide a user-trustable UI to enter a password which cannot be sucked down. - Evangelize to users that this is better and that they should be suspicious of any situation where they used such interface once, but now it's gone. I agree that the overall architecture is broken; the problem is that it's broken in more ways than can just be fixed with any change to TLS/SSL or HTTPS. - Tim
Re: An attack on paypal
James A. Donald wrote: Attached is a spam mail that constitutes an attack on paypal similar in effect and method to man in the middle. The bottom line is that https just is not working. Its broken. HTTPS works just fine. The problem is - people are broken. At the very least, verisign should say ok so '..go1d..' is a valid server address, but doesn't it look suspiously similar to this '..gold..' site over here? for https://pseudo-gold-site/ - but really, if users are going to fill in random webforms sent by email, they aren't going to be safe under any circumstances; the thing could send by unsecured http to any site on the planet, then redirect to the real gold site for a generic transaction completed or even failed screen A world where a random paypal hack like this one doesn't work is the same as the world where there is no point sending out a Nigerian as you will never make a penny on it - and yet, Nigerian is still profitable for the con artists.
