Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue
-- John Young wrote: Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere as the most fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a term of endearment, and also admirable role model by some. Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity. I routinely call people like you nazi-commies. As George Orwell observed, anyone who thinks there is a significant difference between nazis and commies is in favor of one or the other. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG tcPPLhn9aMTaLb/hq3C0TK4TWGyDiUmRgFC+48C2 4sa/dBFoKxqt/B8oRTgvooxp3PmvXeSL3LjqpFI+W ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com
Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue
-- John Young wrote: Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere as the most fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a term of endearment, and also admirable role model by some. Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity. I routinely call people like you nazi-commies. As George Orwell observed, anyone who thinks there is a significant difference between nazis and commies is in favor of one or the other. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG tcPPLhn9aMTaLb/hq3C0TK4TWGyDiUmRgFC+48C2 4sa/dBFoKxqt/B8oRTgvooxp3PmvXeSL3LjqpFI+W ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com
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-- source code for mini web server with ssl Some time back someone mentioned a web server for microsoft windows. It came in two versions, one of which supported SSL It was mentioned in the context of brewing your own certificates, since it came with instructions for brewing your own certificates. Could someone please give me a link to that project. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG pd4L8MG+mgs00qnSKat07anS7FN4QV3QrKYQQ8+k 4JdPx7CT86zKTOjnQHwW5icvkxN6lGfBwiAXth2K7 Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/
Re: was: Echelon-like resources..
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you haven't given me a very convincing argument here. In most of his writings, Chomsky makes it clear that the deaths were not due to the bomb, but the loss of medicine (such as penecillin) in Sudan's only pharmecuetical factory. As those who investigated the matter know, and Chomsky did not know, the factory produced chloroquine, which is inexpensive and widely available from many sources. There is no indication that chloroquine is any more expensive or less available than it was. Chomsy and his supposed sources did not know or care what the factory produced, let alone how much it produced, so where does the figure of ten thousand come from? the accusation and conviction were quite damming The list of countries convicted by the world court is for the most part a list of the worlds most free countries and most law abiding governments, and the accusers are, for the most part, a list of the worlds most murderous regimes. you claim Chomsky regularly lies on many of his citations, I would have thought that this at least would be one citation you'd check. If the world court had condemned Pol Pot's Cambodia, then I might have bothered to check. It did not. The world court is run by much the same folk who run the UN human rights commission. Got to say...I'm a busy man, and you haven't even said anything meriting even the investigaion of your dis-chomsky web page. For another example of Chomsky lying in his citations Those who love tyranny and slavery, love the lies and liars that protect it. For another expose of some other lies of Chomsky, see Nathan Folkert's check of various citations given by Chomsky during the Faurisson issue http://groups.google.com/groups?[EMAIL PROTECTED] ogle.com Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: was: Echelon-like resources..
Sunder: Yes: The factory was bombed, but actual deaths were one night watchman, not tens of thousands, and he asserted that the Sudanese government are the good guys in the civil war, and their opponents terrorists. James A. Donald: And how many of their citizens have or will die due to lack of those very same pharamceuticals that the bombed factory can no longer produce? Or suffer from disease due to the same? Possibly, but neither you nor Chomsky knew or cared what pharmaceutical the factory produced, whereas I do. Thus my estimates of likely casualties are likely to be better than Chomsky's My point was not that the bombing was OK, but that Chomsky was pulling his facts out of his ass. His initial claim was that tens of thousands were killed directly by the bombing, and he came up with this stuff about shortages of pharmaceuticals only after being challenged on that claim. Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: was: Echelon-like resources..
Tyler Durden As for Chomsky lying, can you give us some specific citations? Did he lie about our support for Sadam Hussein? No Our support for Indonesia? Yes Our bombing of the sudanese pharmacuetical factory? Yes: The factory was bombed, but actual deaths were one night watchman, not tens of thousands, and he asserted that the Sudanese government are the good guys in the civil war, and their opponents terrorists. Or the fact that Nicaruaga brought the US before the world court and won? Perhaps that was true, but pretty much everything else he reported on Nicaragua was a lie, for example that the Sandinistas won free elections, and that the contras were a creation of the US, and that the Sandinistas were more popular than the contras. Granted, Chonskty can be a little tiring on the ears, but my knee-jerk reaction towards your calling him a liar is that you misunderstood the citation. But then again, I could be wrong, so do give us some examples, eh? See my web page Chomsky lies http://www.jim.com/chomsdis.htm Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: was: Echelon-like resources..
Tyler Durden As for Chomsky lying, can you give us some specific citations? Did he lie about our support for Sadam Hussein? No Our support for Indonesia? Yes Our bombing of the sudanese pharmacuetical factory? Yes: The factory was bombed, but actual deaths were one night watchman, not tens of thousands, and he asserted that the Sudanese government are the good guys in the civil war, and their opponents terrorists. Or the fact that Nicaruaga brought the US before the world court and won? Perhaps that was true, but pretty much everything else he reported on Nicaragua was a lie, for example that the Sandinistas won free elections, and that the contras were a creation of the US, and that the Sandinistas were more popular than the contras. Granted, Chonskty can be a little tiring on the ears, but my knee-jerk reaction towards your calling him a liar is that you misunderstood the citation. But then again, I could be wrong, so do give us some examples, eh? See my web page Chomsky lies http://www.jim.com/chomsdis.htm Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: Durden lies, was: Echelon-like resources..
Our overriding purpose, from the beginning through to the present day, has been world domination - that is, to build and maintain the capacity to coerce everybody else on the planet: nonviolently, if possible, and violently, if necessary. But the purpose of US foreign policy of domination is not just to make the rest of the world jump through hoops; the purpose is to faciliate our exploitation of resources. - Ramsey Clark, former US Attorney General From: Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Sun is an alternative news magazine which has been in print since 1974. It's mammothly unlikely that they would fabricate the interview out of whole cloth, since Clarke would sue for libel and/or defamation. On the contrary, this is standard routine communist behavior. They are always inventing fantastic citations, for example the much quoted Intoxicating Augmentation quote that Karl Marx attributed to Gladstone (then prime minister of England) which generation after generation learned scholars have learnedly cited as evidence that free market capitalism was bad for workers. Since Clarke is a public figure he cannot sue for libel, so he is a good peg to hang such a citation on. If Karl Marx could get away with attributing fantastic citations to the Prime Minister, the sun can certainly get away with attributing them to an attorney general. The enormous flood of such bogus citations make it unlikely that any one of them will be challenged. Look at Chomsky. Every few pages he has a similarly fraudulent citation, and no one ever sues him, even though in some cases one can check the materials he cites, and find that he is lying. Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: Durden lies, was: Echelon-like resources..
Our overriding purpose, from the beginning through to the present day, has been world domination - that is, to build and maintain the capacity to coerce everybody else on the planet: nonviolently, if possible, and violently, if necessary. But the purpose of US foreign policy of domination is not just to make the rest of the world jump through hoops; the purpose is to faciliate our exploitation of resources. - Ramsey Clark, former US Attorney General From: Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Sun is an alternative news magazine which has been in print since 1974. It's mammothly unlikely that they would fabricate the interview out of whole cloth, since Clarke would sue for libel and/or defamation. On the contrary, this is standard routine communist behavior. They are always inventing fantastic citations, for example the much quoted Intoxicating Augmentation quote that Karl Marx attributed to Gladstone (then prime minister of England) which generation after generation learned scholars have learnedly cited as evidence that free market capitalism was bad for workers. Since Clarke is a public figure he cannot sue for libel, so he is a good peg to hang such a citation on. If Karl Marx could get away with attributing fantastic citations to the Prime Minister, the sun can certainly get away with attributing them to an attorney general. The enormous flood of such bogus citations make it unlikely that any one of them will be challenged. Look at Chomsky. Every few pages he has a similarly fraudulent citation, and no one ever sues him, even though in some cases one can check the materials he cites, and find that he is lying. Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
