Re: stego building

2002-11-24 Thread Neil Johnson
On Sunday 24 November 2002 04:49 pm, Tarapia Tapioco wrote:
> There is a huge concrete building, hardly any windows, occupying the whole
> block-width between Market and Mission streets in san francisco, one side
> being 11th street. Funny thing is that it has no markings at all. The main
> entrance seems to be at 14xx Market, with visible security.
>
> Any clues appreciated.

It's probably just a co-location center for web servers. I vaguely remember an 
dot-com boom article about some sort "secure" datacenter for web server 
bussiness being built in that area. 

Not quite as secure as the "The Bunker" though.


-Neil




Re: stego building

2002-11-24 Thread Bill Stewart
That, or it's a dot-com that didn't make it,
or an office-space construction that someone hoped to sell to a dot-com
but missed the boom.  There's huge amounts of that in SF.

At 05:37 PM 11/24/2002 -0600, Neil Johnson wrote:

On Sunday 24 November 2002 04:49 pm, Tarapia Tapioco wrote:
> There is a huge concrete building, hardly any windows, occupying the whole
> block-width between Market and Mission streets in san francisco, one side
> being 11th street. Funny thing is that it has no markings at all. The main
> entrance seems to be at 14xx Market, with visible security.
>
> Any clues appreciated.

It's probably just a co-location center for web servers. I vaguely 
remember an
dot-com boom article about some sort "secure" datacenter for web server
bussiness being built in that area.

Not quite as secure as the "The Bunker" though.


-Neil




Re: stego building

2002-11-25 Thread Tyler Durden
I'd bet ya' anything that's a CO (Central Office). That's where the phone 
company has its telecom gear for the area.






From: Tarapia Tapioco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: stego building
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 23:49:29 +0100 (CET)

There is a huge concrete building, hardly any windows, occupying the whole 
block-width between Market and Mission streets in san francisco, one side 
being 11th street. Funny thing is that it has no markings at all. The main 
entrance seems to be at 14xx Market, with visible security.

Any clues appreciated.


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Re: stego building

2002-11-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:49 PM 11/24/02 +0100, Tarapia Tapioco wrote:
>There is a huge concrete building, hardly any windows, occupying the
whole block-width between Market and Mission streets in san francisco,
one side being 11th street. Funny thing is that it has no markings at
all. The main entrance seems to be at 14xx Market, with visible
security.
>
>Any clues appreciated.

Telco central office.  Lots of copper loop I/O, and a big switch.  Used
to be mechanical crossbars.  Probably a diesel
generator somewhere.




Re: stego building

2002-11-25 Thread Eric Murray
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 03:54:13PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
> That, or it's a dot-com that didn't make it,
> or an office-space construction that someone hoped to sell to a dot-com
> but missed the boom.  There's huge amounts of that in SF.

They wouldn't have security if it was empty, and would
probably have at least one sign if it was occupied.

Also, office space tends to have windows.

Perhaps its a phone company CO or other facility.  I have seen large
windowlwss concrete buildings used by the phone company before.  Or maybe
that's just what "they" want us to think...



Eric

 
> At 05:37 PM 11/24/2002 -0600, Neil Johnson wrote:
> >On Sunday 24 November 2002 04:49 pm, Tarapia Tapioco wrote:
> > > There is a huge concrete building, hardly any windows, occupying the whole
> > > block-width between Market and Mission streets in san francisco, one side
> > > being 11th street. Funny thing is that it has no markings at all. The main
> > > entrance seems to be at 14xx Market, with visible security.
> > >
> > > Any clues appreciated.
> >
> >It's probably just a co-location center for web servers. I vaguely 
> >remember an
> >dot-com boom article about some sort "secure" datacenter for web server
> >bussiness being built in that area.
> >
> >Not quite as secure as the "The Bunker" though.
> >
> >
> >-Neil




Re: stego building

2002-11-27 Thread Bill Stewart
Telco central office.  Lots of copper loop I/O, and a big switch.
Used to be mechanical crossbars.  Probably a diesel
generator somewhere.


That would normally be my guess too, but it's on one of the ones
AT&T shares with Pac Bell - there's 611 Folsom and another on
Post or thereabouts.   But it could be a local-only Pac Bell POP.




RE: stego building

2002-11-27 Thread Lucky Green
Major wrote:
> At 11:49 PM 11/24/02 +0100, Tarapia Tapioco wrote:
> >There is a huge concrete building, hardly any windows, occupying the
> whole block-width between Market and Mission streets in san 
> francisco, one side being 11th street. Funny thing is that it 
> has no markings at all. The main entrance seems to be at 14xx 
> Market, with visible security.
> >
> >Any clues appreciated.
> 
> Telco central office.  Lots of copper loop I/O, and a big 
> switch.  Used to be mechanical crossbars.  Probably a diesel 
> generator somewhere.

A reasonable guess, but wrong. The building is a computing and
processing center for Bank of America. That's where your checks go after
you deposit them at the bank.

The CO for this area is a few blocks away on Mc Coppin. The brick
building with the Pac Bell logo on it. You can see the frame through the
windows. Yes, this CO has been around for long enough to have windows.

--Lucky Green




RE: stego building

2002-11-28 Thread Vayu Anonymous Remailer
>A reasonable guess, but wrong. The building is a computing and

>processing center for Bank of America. That's where your checks go after

>you deposit them at the bank.

>

>The CO for this area is a few blocks away on Mc Coppin. The brick

>building with the Pac Bell logo on it. You can see the frame through the

>windows. Yes, this CO has been around for long enough to have windows.



Both wrong. BA building is accross the mentioned one (accross 11th) and clearly marked.



The CO is metal-plated pacbel building on Folsom and 2nd.




RE: stego building

2002-11-29 Thread Lucky Green
Anonymous wrote quoting Lucky:
> >A reasonable guess, but wrong. The building is a computing and
> 
> >processing center for Bank of America. That's where your checks go 
> >after
> 
> >you deposit them at the bank.
> 
> >
> 
> >The CO for this area is a few blocks away on Mc Coppin. The brick
> 
> >building with the Pac Bell logo on it. You can see the frame through 
> >the
> 
> >windows. Yes, this CO has been around for long enough to 
> have windows.
> 

> Both wrong. BA building is accross the mentioned one (accross 
> 11th) and clearly marked.

There are two BofA buildings on either side of 11th Street. One is
housing a BofA branch with numerous ATMs outside. That building is
indeed clearly marked as a BofA building. But that's not the building in
question.

The building in question is the one across 11th, which has its building
entrance on Market next to a ground-level convenience store. While the
ground level of that building houses stores, the remainder of the
building is occupied by BofA's processing center.

> The CO is metal-plated pacbel building on Folsom and 2nd.

Well, of course there is more than one CO in San Francisco. The CO
closed to the "mystery" building is the CO on Mc Coppin. As I pointed
out in my original email, you can see the frame through the windows.
FYI, Mc Coppin is *a lot* closer to 11th & Market than is 2nd and
Folsom.

--Lucky