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* (Cough) Bullshit (cough) * www.m-w.com - type in punk, you get this: Main Entry: 1punk Pronunciation: 'p&[ng]k Function: noun Etymology: origin unknown Date: 1596 1 archaic : PROSTITUTE 2 [probably partly from 3punk] : NONSENSE, FOOLISHNESS 3 a : a young inexperienced person : BEGINNER, NOVICE; especially : a young man b : a usually petty gangster, hoodlum, or ruffian c : a youth used as a homosexual partner 4 a : PUNK ROCK b : a punk rock musician c : one who affects punk styles --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, mattd wrote: > > > have to choose soon between use of the words anarchy and punk and some > > punk <> anarchy > > 'punk' actually means 'anti-establishment' and 'activist' in viewpoint. > anti-establishment/activist <> anarchy either. > > The black leather and anarchy crap didn't 'happen' on the punk scene until > the late 70's and early 80's. In particular the club scene in England > (those crazy Brits and their unemployment, crank & horse). > > When punk really took off (it began in the 60's w/ folks like Iggy Pop > and the Stooges) in the early 70's (New York Dolls, Germs, etc.) it was a > direct result of the crappy music (if only every Grease soundtrack would > self-implode...here's hoping). It was intended to be a return to the > 'roots' of rock and roll and to attempt to escape from the large record > companies and their contracts. It fathered the current 'indy' music scene. > > It's also interesting that this is when the 'industrial' music genre began > with bands like Throbbing Gristle (ie Genesis P. Orridge) and Einsturzende > Neubauten (Go Blixa!!! - You can't build without destroying). At one point > P. Orridge was looking to engineer/produce Suzie and the Banshee's first > album, Billy Idol told here to stay away from those crazies... > > Kids... > > "Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it." > > George Santyana > > "The mouth is the wound of the alphabet. My screams turn back. To lick the > wound..." > > "Blutvergiftung" > (Sung backwards) > Einsterzende Neubauten > > -- > > > "I throw poo!".Bumper Sticker of a Funny Monkey > >The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate >Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 >-~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- > >
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Peter Trei sent >>mattd is still a newbie to this list. He will eventually learn that the title of the list: 'cypherpunks' tells nothing about the views of list subscribers, which range widely. In particular, he will learn that participation in the list does not imply acceptance of any particular stance, attitude, or agenda towards crypto, stego, or government or lack thereof. The only thing which can really be said about subscribers in general is that they think crypto is worth discussing. > Your fellow PUNK for ANARCHY,mattd. > You are not my fellow. I am not a punk. Since no one here even agrees what anarchy is, it's incorrect for you to assume that anyone agrees on that, either. Peter Trei << Im a newbie to a list titled cypherpunks,not cyphershills,cypherprats,cyphergoons,cyphersucks,cypherfeds,etc,etc. Punk does imply something whatever you say.To accept lies,propaganda and self delusional CALC,would be fatal for this list.The natural selection of good ideas will sort this all out,let the rivers flow red. You are not my fellow now;So?.Not that I want you for my fellow or asked you,I was talking to declan,there still may be hope for him.I also dont just write for those neutral,balanced,objective,scientific,cleareyed,lucid,rational pragmatists such as your good self.I have to account for the foul,creepy vermin of so called law enforcement and possible data miners from the year 2010.ie.Posterity. If crypto-anarchy is as big as I think its going to be this list will be hirstorically significant.
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> mattd[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote >declan wrote: > >>I'll know I'll regret responding to the mattdproffraptroll, > ditto, ditto > I hope not,it took long enough to lever you out from under your > bridge.Sorry it took the flamethrower. > > >>but briefly: I am not affiliated in any way with the Cato Institute. I > don't believe I've ever written anything for them; I am not an adjunct > scholar/policy analyst for them; I've been in their building just once in > the last five months or so. Most importantly, they say things with which I > > do not agree.<< > > You plugged that appearance here,thats my beef with you declan.I think you > > should be blasted on this list for aligning in any way shape or form to a > twisted conservative mob that manufacture consent for corporate > polluters.We are cypher-PUNKS,not cypher shills.Its crypto-ANARCHY,not > crypto-libertarianism. > mattd is still a newbie to this list. He will eventually learn that the title of the list: 'cypherpunks' tells nothing about the views of list subscribers, which range widely. In particular, he will learn that participation in the list does not imply acceptance of any particular stance, attitude, or agenda towards crypto, stego, or government or lack thereof. The only thing which can really be said about subscribers in general is that they think crypto is worth discussing. > Your fellow PUNK for ANARCHY,mattd. > You are not my fellow. I am not a punk. Since no one here even agrees what anarchy is, it's incorrect for you to assume that anyone agrees on that, either. Peter Trei This e-mail, its content and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and are PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. Access by any other party is unauthorized without the express prior written permission of the sender. If you have received this e-mail in error you may not copy, disclose to any third party or use the contents, attachments or information in any way, Please delete all copies of the e-mail and the attachment(s), if any and notify the sender. Thank You.
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, mattd wrote: > have to choose soon between use of the words anarchy and punk and some punk <> anarchy 'punk' actually means 'anti-establishment' and 'activist' in viewpoint. anti-establishment/activist <> anarchy either. The black leather and anarchy crap didn't 'happen' on the punk scene until the late 70's and early 80's. In particular the club scene in England (those crazy Brits and their unemployment, crank & horse). When punk really took off (it began in the 60's w/ folks like Iggy Pop and the Stooges) in the early 70's (New York Dolls, Germs, etc.) it was a direct result of the crappy music (if only every Grease soundtrack would self-implode...here's hoping). It was intended to be a return to the 'roots' of rock and roll and to attempt to escape from the large record companies and their contracts. It fathered the current 'indy' music scene. It's also interesting that this is when the 'industrial' music genre began with bands like Throbbing Gristle (ie Genesis P. Orridge) and Einsturzende Neubauten (Go Blixa!!! - You can't build without destroying). At one point P. Orridge was looking to engineer/produce Suzie and the Banshee's first album, Billy Idol told here to stay away from those crazies... Kids... "Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it." George Santyana "The mouth is the wound of the alphabet. My screams turn back. To lick the wound..." "Blutvergiftung" (Sung backwards) Einsterzende Neubauten -- "I throw poo!".Bumper Sticker of a Funny Monkey The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'/ ``::>/|/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com.', `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
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>>Would Declan be more effective in your mind if he started throwing rocks at a MacDonalds arch on Pennsylvania Avenue? Somehow I see his contributions to any movement I would be associated with as being a little more worthwhile than what you have written/done that I have read||about. --Gabe<< He could do a follow up on the danny casolero INSLAW,wackenhut,echelon shemozzle. Ive other friends who will handle the essential work you mention.I PROMIS you.
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>>Libertarians like the folks at the Cato Institute are hardly conservatives.<< My beef with them is the money they take to lie.Ive given some examples in the last few days that you may have been to busy to respond to.Many so called 'libertarians' are social conservatives.See...http://ri.xu.org/arbalest/alembic2c.html >>Getting rid of laws prohibiting prostitution, gambling, obscenity, indecency, prostitution -- these are conservative positions? << There are 2 prostitutions? The worst prostitution is not bodily,its taking money to tell lies.The kind jamesd tells.The kind the cato institute retails and many intelligent people such as you get suckered by.Larry flynts probably done a million times more than the cato shills ever did in these areas.Plus they are practically unenforcable online.Window dressing. You > are either with us or with them. >>Yeah, you and George W. Bush. Good example to follow.<< Polarisation is a nasty business,yet sometimes shit happens.This list may have to choose soon between use of the words anarchy and punk and some others more in line with the circle of eunuchs approach of the CALCers. Lenin stole anarchist slogans and rode them to absolute power,a dictatorial murderous terror state,based on lies,no anarchist can ever let that happen again.Will ever let happen again.And getting back to your libby pals... http://world.std.com/~mhuben/cato.html where theres smoke...
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On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:51:03AM +1100, mattd wrote: > You plugged that appearance here,thats my beef with you declan.I think you > should be blasted on this list for aligning in any way shape or form to a > twisted conservative mob that manufacture consent for corporate > polluters.We are cypher-PUNKS,not cypher shills.Its crypto-ANARCHY,not > crypto-libertarianism. Libertarians like the folks at the Cato Institute are hardly conservatives. Getting rid of laws prohibiting prostitution, gambling, obscenity, indecency, prostitution -- these are conservative positions? WAKE UP MATE! > telling you these things so you don't keep kidding yourself. WAKE UP! You > are either with us or with them. Yeah, you and George W. Bush. Good example to follow. -Declan
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Would Declan be more effective in your mind if he started throwing rocks at a MacDonalds arch on Pennsylvania Avenue? Somehow I see his contributions to any movement I would be associated with as being a little more worthwhile than what you have written/done that I have read||about. --Gabe
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>>I'll know I'll regret responding to the mattdproffraptroll, I hope not,it took long enough to lever you out from under your bridge.Sorry it took the flamethrower. >>but briefly: I am not affiliated in any way with the Cato Institute. I don't believe I've ever written anything for them; I am not an adjunct scholar/policy analyst for them; I've been in their building just once in the last five months or so. Most importantly, they say things with which I do not agree.<< You plugged that appearance here,thats my beef with you declan.I think you should be blasted on this list for aligning in any way shape or form to a twisted conservative mob that manufacture consent for corporate polluters.We are cypher-PUNKS,not cypher shills.Its crypto-ANARCHY,not crypto-libertarianism. >>That said, they are a worthy, respectable, valuable, and valued think tank, and I always enjoy reading what they write.<< They are worthless,low, liars for money,its enjoyable tracing their profoundly corrupt sources of finance.If you enjoy their literature theres something seriously wrong with you,declan,I thought you were an intelligent person.How DO you sleep? >>As for a "damming exposure," it's just another screed. Yawn<< You are getting sleepy? WAKE UP AND SMELL WHAT YOUR SHOVELLING,SPORT! I wrote several posts to this list that you ducked liked a coward then when I shout to get your attention,this is the thanks I get.FUCK DECLAN,Im just telling you these things so you don't keep kidding yourself. WAKE UP! You are either with us or with them. Your fellow PUNK for ANARCHY,mattd.
