Re: The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-02 Thread A.Melon
On 1 July, J.A. Terranson wrote...
 For those of you who may have missed it, today was the first day of the
 new Real ID Act, a/k/a, the American Nazification Papers Act.  I
 wouldn't have know myself except that I recently moved, and wanted to
 exchange my current Illinois drivers license for a Missouri one.
If they federales are going to make it so difficult, one might as well
start a new identity.

How does one go about constructing a new identity now?

Birth certificate.  What kind of certification are they looking for?
The state seal?  That's easy enough to fake.  Do they do verification?
How much?  What if it comes back negative?  What's their response to,
The state records must be screwed up?  That's a plausible excuse for
anyone who can claim to be born before modern computerization... at
least anyone no longer in HS.

What are the ID requirements for getting a SSN?  Since it's goal is to
con SSN holders into paying their fair share of tax revenue, the gov
can't be too picky.

Once one have those two, one can get a passport, no?  Aren't those
three items are acceptable proof of identify for a DL?



Re: The Nazification Of America (Show Me Your Papers - Day 1)

2005-07-02 Thread A.Melon
 In anticipation of the Guv'ment ID Needed for Everything/Can't Get ID 
 Without Already Having ID state, I got government ID last month, before 
 the regulations went into effect.

When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is
not far away.  It is time to go elsewhere.



Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good

2005-06-30 Thread A.Melon
 Well, James Dobson (right wing Christian evangelical) is targeting some of 
 these same judges, so I don't think the Democrat  Republican division 
 you're pointing to here is all that valid. In other words, some of those 
 same judges are hated by the right.

Thomas in particular is hated by the Right, but everyone, left, right,
and center hates the majority decision in Kelo.  Polls on major news
sites indicate 1-3% support for the decision.

The question is not whether there's a division -- of course there is --
but whether liberals are upset enough about this decision to turn
against justices who mostly support the modern liberal paradigm.

 From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:09:31 -0700
 
 --
  Bush's favorite judges are radical activists when it
  comes to interference with most civil rights
 
 For the most part, it was conservative judges, judes
 hated by the democrats with insane extravagance, that
 voted for against this decision.
 
 Bush's favorite judge is probably Thomas, who voted
 against this decision.



Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good

2005-06-24 Thread A.Melon
 How do you take out a bulldozer? (Remember, bulldozer operators can
 easily be replaced.)
thermite through the engine block, frag bomb in the engine compartment,
torch any remaining hoses, slice the tires, puncture the brake lines.
you don't need someone to tell you this. takings clause abuse has been
going on for a long time.



Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good

2005-06-24 Thread A.Melon
 Yeah, but this steps crosses a line, I think. Before, your home could be 
 taken for a public project. Now, the supreme court has ruled that your home 
 can be taken for a public project that consists entirely of private 
 development, in the name of the public good, which is supposed to equal 
 higher tax revenues.
 
 What this equates to is, whoever had more money than you can take away your 
 home. Previously, it was just the occasional men-with-guns that could do 
 this, but now they effectively have proxies everywhere.

The principle of using the takings clause to transfer private property
to private parties has already been approved by the Supremes.  This is
but another variation.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=usvol=467invol=229

 From: A.Melon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good
 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
 
  How do you take out a bulldozer? (Remember, bulldozer operators can
  easily be replaced.)
 thermite through the engine block, frag bomb in the engine compartment,
 torch any remaining hoses, slice the tires, puncture the brake lines.
 you don't need someone to tell you this. takings clause abuse has been
 going on for a long time.

Dousing the 'dozer with gas and throwing a match may suffice.  The two
ex-Caltech-student co-conspirators in the Los Angeles area Hummer
dealership fire are still at large.  Maybe they'll make their way to
Connecticut or NYC* and put their skills to use for a worthy cause...
rather than for the Marxist ELF.

* http://www.nyclu.org/eminent_domain_lj_article_060105.html



Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good

2005-06-24 Thread A.Melon
 From: A.Melon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The principle of using the takings clause to transfer private property
 to private parties has already been approved by the Supremes.  This is
 but another variation.
 http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=usvol=467invol=229
 
 Interesting that the author of that opinion was O'Connor, who authored the 
 *dissent* from this week's opinion.  Apparently, taking property from one 
 private individual and giving it to another is fine with her if the one 
 you're taking it from is a member of an (evil by definition) oligopoly.
 
 O'Connor's dissent in the recent case is full of hair-splitting about why 
 this transfer isn't for public use while the other one was, but all of her 
 arguments would have and should have applied to the earlier case as well.
 
 There is a special place in Hell reserved for people like her who open the 
 proverbial barn door and then proceed to complain when the whole herd 
 stampedes through. The key word is principles: O'Connor should find some 
 and try applying them consistently.

In her defense, she *thinks* she's identified a legitimate
distinction.  She thinks there's a fundamental difference between
taking property for the purpose of economic development and taking
property to break up a landholder oligopoly on a small island.
Unfortunately, she's wrong.  She's a two-bit socialist in the realm of
constitutional takings. She has no compunctions about taking from the
rich and giving to the poor, or taking from someone to protect the
environment. But she starts whining when the court decides to take
from the (relatively) poor and give to the rich.

As for Berman... (quoting O'Connor's dissent from Kelo)
 In Berman, we upheld takings within a blighted neighborhood of
 Washington, D. C. The neighborhood had so deteriorated that, for
 example, 64.3% of its dwellings were beyond repair. 348 U. S., at
 30.  It had become burdened with overcrowding of dwellings, lack
 of adequate streets and alleys, and lack of light and air. Id.,
 at 34.  Congress had determined that the neighborhood had become
 injurious to the public health, safety, morals, and welfare and
 that it was necessary to eliminat[e] all such injurious conditions
 by employing all means necessary and appropriate for the purpose,
 including eminent domain.

Those are good reasons for the government to do something, although I
can't agree that taking the property to raze it and sell it to
developers -- no matter what the reason -- qualifies as public use. To
be constitutional, they'd have had to turn the area into a public park
or a museum or something.

A reasonable action under our current system of government and
jurisprudence could have been for the D.C. city council (which can be
overridden by Congress, but Congress generally leaves it alone) to
enact a health and safety law requiring the property owners to fix
things, and fining them and having the city fix things if the property
owners did not comply. If fixing meant razing the buildings and
putting up tents, so be it. But no level of government had the right
to take titles from the land owners unless the land would then be put
to public use.

I don't philosophically support that solution because it violates
private property rights. If someone wants to live in an unsafe or
unhealthy environment with no light and no alleys, the government
shouldn't have the power to intervene. But it's widely accepted in
urban areas that the government has the power to intervene on the
basis of gross neglect of public (e.g. tenant) health and safety, and
that's a somewhat better and less intrusive way of fixing the
situation in Berman without going so far as taking the property away
from the landholders. The opening paragraph of Berman admits that the
property, once taken, may be (i.e. will be) sold to private
developers.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?navby=casecourt=USvol=348invol=26

So, while O'Connor shouldn't be defending either decision, at least
there was some basis for the government to do *something* in Berman.
And at least, because O'Connor wasn't part of that decision, she can't
be accused of violating her own principles in Kelo with respect to
Berman.




Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good

2005-06-24 Thread A.Melon
 At 10:19 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Jay Listo wrote:
 
  Well, once the Supreme Court starts coming up with stuff like this, you
  know you've been Bush-whacked.
 
 Maybe you should take another look at who voted how.  The Bushies
 dissented on this opinion.  Go figure.
 
 Not surprising at all.  The Bush camp's court agenda is spearheaded by 
 members of the Federalist Society which wants to roll back many of the SC's 
 decisions of the early-mid 20th century (esp. the Social Security Act and 
 the expansion of the Commerce Clause during FDR's reign).

The conservative justices happen to be correct about that. If there is
a need for expansion of federal power, the solution is to pass an
amendment, not to read into the commerce and general welfare clauses
what was never there.

If the judiciary keeps supporting both good and bad laws on the basis
of Congress's interstate commerce power, eventually something is going
to break. Either we're going to have a civil war or the judiciary is
going to have to start contradicting its earlier opinions.

We the people should start a campaign to pass amendments in these
various areas so that the Supreme Court can revise its earlier
opinions without placing laws like the Civil Rights Act completely in
jeopardy.

These are a few areas which amendments could target:
healthcare
limiting complexity of the tax code if not repealing the 16th A.
NBC weaps (chems def'd by LD50 and quantity for gases and liquids)
reiterating the 2nd amendment with the exception of any banned NBC
regulation of airspace up to a certain altitude
acknowledgment that the U.S. has no authority over outer space
civil rights - discrimination
clarifying property rights (in light of Kelo)

If we don't need or can't agree on amendments in those areas,
respective legislation must be nullified. The Kelo decision is simply
incorrect, so an amendment correcting it is virtually mandatory.

We have no right to healthcare or welfare, and laws granting either
are invalid. We have a right to make, buy and sell any weapons we
wish, and laws stating otherwise are invalid. We have a right not to
be discriminated against by the government, and by purely public
institutions, and at polls. We have no right to equal treatment by
private corporations or private individuals. We have a right to use
the EM spectrum as we wish, and we have a right to possess whatever
substances we want.

I don't like some of those facts, but they are facts. In order to
change them, there is no alternative except to pass constitutional
amendments. Otherwise, the government will continue on the path from
incoherence to collapse.



Re: [IP] One Internet provider's view of FBI's CALEA wiretap push

2004-04-24 Thread A.Melon
Major Variola writes...

 If you physically destroy the keys or the data, there is little to gain by
 torturing you or your family.  That is superior to gambling that your
 deeper duress levels are convincing to the man with the electrodes.

Are there any publicly available documents that detail interrogation
protocols and what brainwave patterns and bloodflow look like during truth
telling and lying?  Preferably something that gets into how to consciously
alter brainwave patterns and bloodflow with this application in mind...

A document with a thorough discussion of various depressants on such an
interrogation process would also be most interesting.

We all know that no lie detector is not perfect, but trying to convince
captors that I'm part of a minority of subjects -- those who appear to be
lying when they're not -- is not my idea of fun.



Re: Has this photo been de-stegoed?

2003-12-10 Thread A.Melon
Tyler Durden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 2003-12-08:
 Is it possible to determine that the photo 'originally' (ie, when it was
 sent to me) contained stegoed information, but that it was intercepted in
 transit and the real message overwritten with noise or whatever?

Hardly, given the simple fact that well-encrypted content is
indistinguishable from noise.



San Francisco Combatants

2003-03-22 Thread A.Melon
I find it interesting that live transmission of Enemy Combatant Radio at 93.7 FM  
lags about 2 minutes after mp3 broadcast at
http://radio.us2.indymedia.org:8000/playlist.pls?mount=/ecr

I cannot think of rational explanation why would the signal be delayed - maybe someone 
versed in FM broadcast technology can offer some ?

93.7 is San Francisco Liberation Radio (micropower license-free :-) 



Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

2003-03-11 Thread A.Melon
On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:31 am, david wrote:
 Neither you nor anyone else has the right to force me or any other
 individual to subsidize your welfare.

 This device, if forced on individuals by a government entity, would
 violate fourth amendment protections against self-incrimination.
 DUI laws requiring breath or blood tests do the same thing.

But you wouldn't mind if insurance companies required the device
in order for you to get a policy (whether or not it called the 
police or just the insurance company) ?

Right ?



mail?

2003-02-23 Thread A.Melon
  So is the list up or what? Havn't gotten any mail from it for awhile, although 
zoneedit's dns servers were hosed yesterday, but I'm getting mail now. Also see
the cpunks archives are not there for the last week. And trying to send a test
post to cpunks gives me this:

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 550 5.7.1 Fix reverse DNS for 68.23.77.18,or use your ISP server.)

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to gw.lne.com.:
 MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 550 5.7.1 Fix reverse DNS for 68.23.77.18,or use your ISP server.
554 5.0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Service unavailable

[-- Attachment #2 --]
[-- Type: message/delivery-status, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.3K --]


I'm not having any problem email elsewhere that I've found so far.



Re: Homeland Security Act Affects Amateur High Power Rocketry

2003-02-23 Thread A.Melon
   Sheesh -- somehow I though Sensenbrenner, at least, was smarter than this
(although I knew Kohl wasn't)  don't any of these people have a clue
as to how ridiculously easy it is to make blackpowder from scratch in 
100lb plus quantities? Including making the charcoal and the potassium nitrate? 
And sulfur, of course, is an extremely common agricultural chemical available
literally everywhere, even easy enough to dig your own in some places. 
Duh! Double duh!
   All they are accomplishing is making a hassle for muzzleloader and rocketry
buffs. 



Duct Busters

2003-02-17 Thread A.Melon
Put a duct tape on the rear window of your car, diagonally corner to corner. Spread 
the word.




Dynamic DNS services with mail relaying

2003-01-17 Thread A.Melon
Are there any dynamic DNS services currently out there that provide mail relaying 
capability?
DHIS used to do it, at least for their original users, but has recently broken their 
relaying 
system and don't seem too eager to fix it.




Re: Brinworld: Samsung SCH-V310 camcorder phone

2003-01-14 Thread A.Melon
Bill Stewart said: 

 At 12:31 PM 01/14/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote:
 I saw mention on the Yahoo news site that some health clubs and
 gyms are already taking steps to limit the types of cellphones
 allowed in the changing areas (and maybe elsewhere).

 Hey, some people get their privacy by going to places that
 have Rules about the kind of video-broadcast technology that's allowed,
 some people build it using Technology like cell-phone jammers,
 while others of us accomplish it by having figures that
 nobody's going to bother photographing :-)

Unless you are being rebirthed by a home applicance.

http://pics.nikita.ca/artificial-gravity/bill.jpg




Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-09 Thread A.Melon
SIgh. Although I read May's Crypto Anarchy piece and liked it, I am slowly 
coming to the conclusion that he's just another dimwitted fascist who by 
accident had a few interesting ideas.

You're Guilty for Not Doing Your Homework.

Mr. May's views on sick, disabled, niggers and women are available to everyone with 
access to usenet archives, which means everyone. For example, type this: 'disabled 
author:[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (sans quotes) in with all of the words field at
http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search and you'll get the idea.

It doesn't mean that I don't credit him for efforts in other areas. People are too 
complex to be classified on one aspect only. Would I fuck a beautiful female 
republican ? Most certainly. Even Bush saying sensible things doesn't make them wrong.




Re: Misconceptions about how remailers work

2003-01-07 Thread A.Melon
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 10:46  AM, Igor Chudov wrote:

 A nice article, although I was under impression that basically the
 remailer network was no longer operable. Wanted to send some joke stuff
 through them and was unable to do so due to lack of working remailers.

According to http://stats.melontraffickers.com, at this moment:

Out of the 43 Cypherpunk and 51 Mixmaster remailers (53 unique addresses) 
on these stats there are 27 CPunks and 37 Mixes over 98.0% in terms of 
overall reliability.

The remailer network has never been healthier. Perhaps you need to update 
your keyrings and stats as to ensure you are using remailers which are 
still operating reliably? Individual remailers do come and go over time.




Re: NSA Show Sexually Arouses Hanssen

2002-12-29 Thread A.Melon
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 09:46:22 -0500, jya wrote:

 Horses, guns, right and wrong, winners and
 losers, the USA v. the World. Simple-minded
 erotic pleasures, silliness writ larger than
 the wee woeful penis. Hanssen is us, or at
 least those who harbor dreams of conquest.

Hanssen's fall has nothing to do with lying, or betraying trust, 
or trafficking in secrets, dead-dropping names to be killed, 
outing safehouses, gps'ing the other side's drops, moving money, 
competing with other chess players, or causing the death of 
people who were ratted out. After all, that was basically his 
job description. The problem wasn't his actions or their deadly 
results, rather is was that instead of doing it to the people he 
was assigned to do it to, he did it to the assigners.

His controllers knew that it was a high honor and a duty to 
civilization to do it to others, but horrible treachery and 
murderous treason to do it to them. No where in the agency's 
whining about Hanssen do we lament what it is: our stock in 
trade, our claim to budget, or reason to walk fast, stare cold 
and hard and answer no questions, our right to subject others, 
our freedom from being an object, a thing, like those to whom we 
apply the craft, foreign and domestic. The ecumenical way.




Brin's ISP

2002-12-23 Thread A.Melon
How long do you think it would be before the ISP described below would 
receive a cease and desist letter, ordering it to remove the cameras, 
in order to protect customer privacy?

My mind is churning...one would think there'd be a cute techno-fix to this...oh wait, 
what about some form of brute force? Probably won't work but, call it 
brainstorming...

1)In addition to having ISP services, the ISP also functions as a sort of info 
safe-deposit box-type place (where floppies and such are stored and loaded on 
request), except...

2) The boxes have a space-age plexiglass wall between the box and the main area

3) Each box is rented out to a different person

4) Only the rentees have the keys to open the boxes, and they do so only via blacknet, 
and there's no record of who rents what box (see 6).

5) Many of these customers may have chosen to place a little camera in their box, say 
to watch over their property

The idea here is that in order to shut down the cameras, they have to find every 
single owner, clearly not a very fruitful task if the proper measures have been taken.

Of course, they'll probably be back with a big can of black paint, but 6)that's 
exactly when each ownee can send a signal trashing any data with their names or other 
info on it.

Also,I'm wondering if some IR can penetrate paint...

ALright, alright, THIS idea probably has lots of holes in it, but the idea isn't to 
knock down ideas but to come up with something that works.

TD




[BrinWorld] Store spycam witnesses beating

2002-09-20 Thread A.Melon

Woman wanted for child abuse after store spycam witnesses beating:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/09/20/video.child.beating/index.html


SOUTH BEND, Indiana (CNN) -- The woman caught on videotape seemingly 
beating her 4-year-old daughter in the parking lot of a Kohl's Department 
Store in Mishawaka, Indiana, is wanted in Texas for skipping a court date 
-- on charges that she shoplifted from a Kohl's in Fort Worth, Texas. 

Police are searching for Madelyne Gorman Toogood, 25, identified by 
authorities as the woman seen in the videotape repeatedly striking her 
daughter, Martha, after putting the little girl in a van. 

Police said Toogood is from Texas, where she was arrested on March 27 and 
charged with shoplifting from the Kohl's store in Fort Worth, according to 
Fort Worth Police Lt. Jesse Hernandez. 

A spokeswoman from the Tarrant County district attorney's office said that 
a warrant was issued for Toogood's arrest when she missed a May 9 court 
date. 

Mishawaka, Indiana, Police Chief Anthony Hazen said Toogood's sister, 
identified as Margaret Dailey, has been arrested and charged with failing 
to report child abuse. Dailey was also seen in the video, police said. 

Hazen said authorities are optimistic that we will find this young girl 
and her mother. 

Maggie Jones, deputy prosecuting attorney for St. Joseph County, said the 
sister was not cooperating, and her office was considering filing felony 
charges against her for assisting a criminal. 

Battery charges against Toogood are expected to be filed later Friday, 
Jones said. If convicted, Toogood would face a maximum of three years in 
prison. 

Hazen said police are very worried about the child, who appears in the 
video to receive several blows that could have caused severe trauma. 

The beating occurred last Friday, when a surveillance camera recorded two 
women -- identified by police as Toogood and her sister -- walking with 
two small children as they departed Kohl's department store in Mishawaka, 
near the state's northern border with Michigan. 

The women had attempted to return several items, but were refused and were 
asked to leave, said Hazen. 

The suspect became angry, and left the store, the chief said. I believe 
(store personnel) followed them out through the camera system and 
witnessed the incident. 

As the camera tracked them from the store to a 2002 white Toyota Sequoia 
SUV in the parking lot, one of the women -- identified by police as 
Toogood -- placed her 4-year-old daughter in a rear seat. 

The woman, wearing blue jeans and a T-shirt, her blond hair in a ponytail, 
looked around the parking lot and -- for about 25 seconds -- shook the 
girl and hit her in the face. 

You can see the woman grab one of the girl's ponytails and forcibly shake 
her, Jones said. Not even counting all of the blows we saw the woman 
make, that constitutes battery. 

Using the videotape, police traced the vehicle to the woman's family and 
impounded it. 

Jones said family members told her the girl was one of the woman's three 
children. But the woman's relatives have been less than cooperative in 
helping authorities locate the girl, Jones said. 

The sister, who has not been identified by name, claims not to know where 
her sister is, Jones said. 

Authorities also said they had spoken with Toogood's husband, who had not 
led them to his wife. It was not clear if the two live together. 

I've been in police work over 20 years, and I've never seen such a 
horrendous attack on a small child, said Mike Samp, assistant chief of 
the Mishawaka Police Department. 

Samp said the family members told authorities the woman had left the 
state. 

But he was not persuaded. My hunch is that she's still here. That's why 
we're continuing to pursue this so vigorously. 

Authorities have urged anyone with information about how to find the woman 
or the girl to call the Mishawaka police at (574) 258-1684. 

It made me sick to think that that child is still with that mother and, 
quite frankly, if the mother is willing to do that in a public parking 
lot, what is she doing at home? Jones asked. Our immediate concern ... 
is to locate the child and get the child out of the environment. 

CNN Correspondent Gary Tuchman contributed to this report. 




Re: On the outright laughability of internet democracy

2002-08-11 Thread A.Melon

On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 13:22:15 -0400, you wrote:

 At 4:35 PM +0200 on 8/11/02, Anonymous wrote:


  Next, the internet boogeyman.

 Nope. Just the clueless only knows one austrian remailer boogeyman. Watch
 me make him go away:

 *Plonk!*

Based on your inability or unwillingness to address the issues identified 
specifically, that is 
pretty good course of action on your part.

I would think you might be interested in going deeper, as Blind signatures for 
untraceable 
payments is directly applicable to both digital settlement and digital voting. See 
http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds2-4/voting.html for an interesting little article of 
introduction about the topic. And there are many others more current and deep.

Those issues, remaining unaddressed by you, include:

The sold vote boogeyman.

You need to submit evidence that anonymous internet voting is more likely to be 
fraudulent 
than paper, voter-present by mail voting. You have submitted none, and the 
cryptography word is 
insufficient to scare me off.

The bogus digital voter registration boogeyman.

You may also wish to show how digital voter registration cards would be more likely to 
be bogus 
than Motor Voter, no-id required registration cards. Good luck.

The crypto boogeyman.

I challenge you to show that current, published crypto voting protocols cannot 
accomplish the 
following:
1. one digital sig, one vote, the first one, and the others are discarded
2. no dig signature, no vote
3. no dig voter registration, no dig sig
4. anonymity, i.e., no connectibility between the voter's choice and his identity.
5. auditability, i.e., connection between each voting lever throw and a dig sig for 
the current 
vote.

Next, the internet boogeyman.

It's just a pipe/wire/whatever. Bits. Don't be afraid. If the bits are properly 
signed, no problem 
and whether internet bits or voter-machine-punched-paper-tape-bits is irrelevant.

They are not strengthened or weakened by the mail server applied to their 
transmission, by the way.

Cheers!




Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread A.Melon

Jack Lloyd wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Steve Schear wrote:

 Looks amazingly familiar.  Could it be, could be, could it be Mojo
 Nation (now MNet http://mnet.sourceforge.net )?

Or OpenCM (http://www.opencm.org)
  -Jack


On the OpenCM webpage, it proclaims on the right hand side:

OpenCM is designed as a secure, high-integrity replacement for CVS. 

Briefly, OpenCM provides ... 
cryptographic authentication and access control,...
   
The OpenCM project was originally started because we needed a 
secure, high-integrity configuration management system 

and on the left hand side of the page it says:

At the moment, we do not support non-Javascript browsers.


If they are concerned about security, Shouldn't they be avoiding
javascript?