Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-13 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, James A. Donald wrote:

 Obvious solution.  Require all mandatory uglification of all
 foreign scenery -- for example video editing to insert some
 smokestacks.

Just pay them to decorate their unfairly lovely landscapes with
king-sized billboards.

*Poof!* Beauty gone, problem solved.



Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-12 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
On Thursday 11 December 2003 22:00, Neil Johnson wrote:
 What I object to are corporations who utilize their power (money) to
 influence governments to make laws that benefit them at the expense of
 others.

 - The DMCA
 - Tariffs AND Free Trade Agreements
 - H1-B visas

And now... tarrifs for filming movies in Canada.  Just heard that one on NPR 
today, and I nearly drove off the road.  The plan is to raise the cost of 
filming in Canada so that there's no longer an economic advantage. Made me 
want to puke.

 Even Ayn Rand weaves this into Atlas Shrugged where the competitors of
 Reardon Steel get the government to try and force him to give them his
 formula for his high-strength steel because it's putting them out business
 and unfair.

I guess Canada is Reardon Pictures.



Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-12 Thread Nostradumbass
From: Neil Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 What I object to are corporations who utilize their power (money) to influence 
 governments to make laws that benefit them at the expense of others.
 
 - The DMCA
 - Tariffs AND Free Trade Agreements
 - H1-B visas
 
 Even Ayn Rand weaves this into Atlas Shrugged where the competitors of 
 Reardon Steel get the government to try and force him to give them his 
 formula for his high-strength steel because it's putting them out business 
 and unfair.

Corporations shall not be considered to be 'persons' protected by the Constitution of 
the United States or the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania within the 
Second Class Township of Porter, Clarion County, Pennsylvania.

Only a small handful of very large corporations abuse these rights to deceive people, 
hide crimes, or make politicians violate the will of their own voters. The millions of 
ethical corporations will thus be freed from the tyranny of the few while democratic 
government will be returned to its citizens.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1219-06.htm



Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-12 Thread James A. Donald
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On 11 Dec 2003 at 23:39, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
 And now... tarrifs for filming movies in Canada.  Just heard
 that one on NPR today, and I nearly drove off the road.  The
 plan is to raise the cost of filming in Canada so that
 there's no longer an economic advantage. Made me want to
 puke.

You will notice that a lot of big hollywood movies have been
filmed in New Zealand, for example Lord of the Rings.   Reason
is, there is not lot of beautiful unspoilt scenery left near
Hollywood.

Obvious solution.  Require all mandatory uglification of all
foreign scenery -- for example video editing to insert some
smokestacks.

 

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Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-12 Thread James A. Donald
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On 11 Dec 2003 at 21:00, Neil Johnson wrote:
 Even Ayn Rand weaves this into Atlas Shrugged where the 
 competitors of Reardon Steel get the government to try and 
 force him to give them his formula for his high-strength 
 steel because it's putting them out business and unfair.

Ah yes, recall big steel corporations talking about 'fair
trade in recent weeks.

Tim has been implying that I am a pinko, gold nut, and 
randroid, which sort of hints that Ayn Rand is too pink for 
him. 

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Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 5:59 PM -0800 12/12/03, James A. Donald wrote:
Tim has been implying that I am a pinko, gold nut, and
randroid, which sort of hints that Ayn Rand is too pink for
him.

Apparently, he likes his meat burned -- and halfway up the flue...

;-)

Cheers,
RAH

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Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-09 Thread Declan O'Reilly
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:18:37 +0200
Anatoly Vorobey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That was a rhetorical question. In the old Soviet oligarchy, you
 would get into real trouble for publicly speaking against it. In 
 today's corporate oligarchy, this is obviously not true. Therefore
 the comparison is flawed, and it's not at all true that just the names
 and titles are different.
 
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 avva


Oops , my bad

Thanks Anatoly

Declan O'Reilly



Re: Anti-globalization

2003-12-09 Thread Anatoly Vorobey
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 06:41:21PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
 On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Tyler Durden wrote:
 
  However, I don't see the strong support for Soviet or Maoist-style state
  control these days...these are vaguely romantic notions once in a while, but
  they don't have any deep ideological support like they might have in the
  60s.
 
 I don't know about that.  Today's corporate oligarchy behaves an awful lot
 like the old Soviet oligarchy.  Just the names and titles are different.

Do you expect to get in real trouble for publicly saying that?

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avva