[darktable-dev] Colour Equalizer
Hi Devs, First up, fantastic work on 4.8! I raised the issue last week about documentation, and have come here to ask who wrote the code for the CE module? If that person would be willing to engage in a discussion, I'd really like to cover (in a future video) all of the controls within the module. I'd rather learn from the person who developed it, than try and assume what the controls are doing, and then lead my viewers up the proverbial garden path with incorrect information! Cheers, Bruce Williams -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Modules in the scene-referred preset
Hi devs, If I'm barking up the wrong tree, please set me straight! :) I was just looking at the modules in the "workflow: scene-referred" preset, and there are a bunch of modules which, when you hover over them, are described by the tooltip as having a DISPLAY-referred input. Notably, they are: local contrast color zones astrophoto denoise watermark framing vignetting grain Is this deliberate? Should they be removed from that preset? If not, can someone point out the reasoning, just so I understand it, please? :) Many thanks! Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Owner, Creator and co-host Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com/>, the world's best-loved, and longest-running photography podcast Creator Understanding darktable <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkqe4BYsllmcxo2dsF-rFQw> on youtube Other places to find me e-mail <https://markdowntohtml.com/stu...@audio2u.com> | Instagram <https://markdowntohtml.com/instagram.com/bruce_williams_photography> | Twitter <https://markdowntohtml.com/twitter.com/audio2u> | LinkedIn <https://markdowntohtml.com/linkedin.com/in/audio2u/> | Facebook <https://markdowntohtml.com/facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <https://markdowntohtml.com/soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://markdowntohtml.com/quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5?share=1> ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Delete files on memory card
Oh...sorry, no, I don't hook my camera up to the computer for transferring images! I put the memory card in a card reader for that purpose. But I wipe my cards in-camera. -- Forwarded message - From: Patrick Shanahan Date: Wed, 19 July 2023, 08:36 Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Delete files on memory card To: darktable * Bruce Williams [07-18-23 18:31]: > Ageing the battery by using your camera to wipe your memory cards? > Hardly. > Admittedly, I only use 64GB cards, but they can be wiped in-camera in about > 15 seconds. > > -- Forwarded message - > From: Patrick Shanahan > Date: Wed, 19 July 2023, 08:25 > Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Delete files on memory card > To: darktable > > > * Łukasz Karcz [07-18-23 15:58]: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I have a [noob] question regarding importing the images from the memory > > card. Is there an option in dt for physically removing files directly from > > the memory card after [successful] import? If not, what's the default > > workflow for it? Manually deleting files from outside dt seems a bit > > cumbersome. Or maybe I don't understand something? > > I move photos from a memory card reader to a prepared directory on > hard-disk which removes/deletes from memory card on successful transfer, > *then* import into dt. why age your expensive camera battery for other > than taking pictures? > > > -- > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > add the time/energy consumed hooking up to computer and transferring to the "wiping" time/energy. but everyone is welcome to follow their own path. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Delete files on memory card
Ageing the battery by using your camera to wipe your memory cards? Hardly. Admittedly, I only use 64GB cards, but they can be wiped in-camera in about 15 seconds. -- Forwarded message - From: Patrick Shanahan Date: Wed, 19 July 2023, 08:25 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Delete files on memory card To: darktable * Łukasz Karcz [07-18-23 15:58]: > Hello everyone, > > I have a [noob] question regarding importing the images from the memory > card. Is there an option in dt for physically removing files directly from > the memory card after [successful] import? If not, what's the default > workflow for it? Manually deleting files from outside dt seems a bit > cumbersome. Or maybe I don't understand something? I move photos from a memory card reader to a prepared directory on hard-disk which removes/deletes from memory card on successful transfer, *then* import into dt. why age your expensive camera battery for other than taking pictures? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Delete files on memory card
First up, this is a question more for the darktable-user list, not the dev list. But now that we're here... No, dt does not offer the ability to remove files from the memory card. And conventional wisdom says you really shouldn't wipe your memory card with your computer either. Ideally, you would wipe it from your camera. Also, it's not a good idea to ever partially wipe a card (not sure if you were doing that or not) either, as that leaves a fragmented storage unit which will mean at some point, your camera is having to split an image up across multiple areas of the card. -- Forwarded message - From: Łukasz Karcz Date: Wed, 19 July 2023, 05:05 Subject: [darktable-dev] Delete files on memory card To: darktable Hello everyone, I have a [noob] question regarding importing the images from the memory card. Is there an option in dt for physically removing files directly from the memory card after [successful] import? If not, what's the default workflow for it? Manually deleting files from outside dt seems a bit cumbersome. Or maybe I don't understand something? ŁK ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Updated manual on website?
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Fwd: [darktable-dev] Updated manual on website?
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[darktable-dev] Updated manual on website?
Hi devs, I just noticed that the current version of the manual on darktable.org is still for v4.0. Does anyone have a link to the 4.2 version, please? Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Owner, Creator and co-host Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com/>, the world's best-loved photography podcast Creator Understanding darktable <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkqe4BYsllmcxo2dsF-rFQw> on youtube Other places to find me e-mail <https://markdowntohtml.com/stu...@audio2u.com> | Instagram <https://markdowntohtml.com/instagram.com/bruce_williams_photography> | Twitter <https://markdowntohtml.com/twitter.com/audio2u> | LinkedIn <https://markdowntohtml.com/linkedin.com/in/audio2u/> | Facebook <https://markdowntohtml.com/facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <https://markdowntohtml.com/soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://markdowntohtml.com/quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5?share=1> ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] release 4.2 is coming...
Agreed! Thank you to all the devs who devote their time and energy to this project. It is greatly appreciated. -- Forwarded message - From: Pascal Obry Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022, 07:06 Subject: [darktable-dev] release 4.2 is coming... To: darktable-user , darktable-dev < darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org> Hello! I'd like to take some time, while we are all waiting for the 4.2 release, to send you a little message about darktable. This release cycle has seen lot of improvements as previous releases. We had also some divergences with one developer and the signal sent was certainly not good or worrisome for some of you. Fact is that the team behind darktable is strong and working very hard in many aspects of the project. Some people gain more visibility because they work on GUI part that are directly visible by end-users. But there is also some people working on part of the code that you do not see directly but that makes darktable internal better. I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm and Ralf Brown for their work on performances, tweaking OpenCL code path and OpenMP to use every cycles of your CPU. I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm also for working on new highlight recovery algorithms. I'd like to thank Diederik ter Rahe for looking into Gtk issues and proposing a very impressive framework for shortcuts. And to achieve that, lot of code refactoring has been done. Some Gtk parts are looking like black magic to me :) I'd like to thank Roman Lebedev for the hard work in rawspeed. Without this project darktable won't be there. Also Miloš Komarčević working on rawspeed and many RAW formats support. I'd like to thank Victor Forsiuk for working on image input/output support and fixing a huge number of spelling typos. I'd like to thank Aldric Renaudin for the continued effort on the lighttable filters and UI. I'd like to thank Nicolas Auffray for taking over the UI effort and doing magic with CSS. I'd like to thank Bill Fergusson for maintaining the Lua framework. I'd like to thank rawfiner for checking noise profiles and making sure they are in good shape for integration. I'd like to thank Simone Gotti for working on a new lens correction method based on meta-data. I'd like to thank all the testers and reviewers (Chris Elston, Martin Straeten, parafin, Mark-64, and others) making sure we do not introduce more issues than we are fixing. Also thanks for Chris for reading my English in the RELEASE_NOTES and correcting it. I'd like to thank parafin and Bill Fergusson for creating the release binaries for MacOS and Windows. And Andreas Schneider as maintainer of the OBS platform for creating the GNU/Linux binaries. I'd like to thank Sakari Kapanen for helping with color science. I'd like to thank Jakob Andrén for the long journey at making Sigmoid a viable alternative to FilmicRGB. I'd like to thank all the translators bringing to us an interface in our native language. I won't name them, but also remember that darktable is Open Source and we leverage on many other Open Source projects/libraries (to handle Jpeg, TIFF, AVIF, HEIF, PNG... tether with camera, handle SVG, colors...). I'm even pretty sure that there is far more code in the dependencies we are using than in darktable itself. And finally I'd like to thank all people that I have forgotten in the list above. I'm sorry if I missed you. A darktable release is a huge amount of work and the darktable team is wonderful. I'm really happy to be part of it, let's the aventure continue. Have all a nice end of year! -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Re: [darktable-user] darktable 4.0.0 released
Hi all, Just perusing the release notes for 4.0.0, and under the sub-heading "UI rewrite", I se the following: New collapsible sections have been added to avoid cluttering the UI in the following modules: - channel mixer rgb - exposure - color calibration Now, I've searched the module preset manager, and I cannot see (nor have I ever heard of) a "channel mixer RGB" module. Is this a typo which was meant to refer to the Colour Calibration Module (I'm guessing not, as CC is mentioned third in the list), or something else? Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com>, the world's best-loved photography podcast Understanding darktable <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkqe4BYsllmcxo2dsF-rFQw> on youtube e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://linkedin.com/in/bruce-williams-4893181/> | Facebook <http://facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <http://quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5?share=1> -- Forwarded message - From: Matt Maguire Date: Mon, Jul 4, 2022 at 2:21 PM Subject: [darktable-dev] Re: [darktable-user] darktable 4.0.0 released To: Terry Pinfold Cc: darktable-user , darktable-dev < darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 11:09, Terry Pinfold wrote: > I have looked for this UCS 22 colour space in the input color profile > module and I tried to find information in the latest user guide, but I > don't see it anywhere. Is this just something that is hidden from the user > or is it something I should be selecting somewhere. > It is used internally within the colour balance RGB module, not as a pipeline working colour space. If you go to the masks tab in color balance rgb, you'll find an option "saturation formula" which selects whether to use the new UCS colour space or the previous Jzazbz colour space. It is documented in the user guide: https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/en/module-reference/processing-modules/color-balance-rgb/#saturation-formula Regards, Matt. ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-dev] dt 4.0 : string freeze
Thanks for that! Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Christian Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2022, 19:07 Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] dt 4.0 : string freeze To: Hi Bruce, 2nd July IIRC. Chris Am 01.06.2022 um 07:54 schrieb Bruce Williams: > Pascal, > Is there a target release date? > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com>, the world's > best-loved photography podcast > > Understanding darktable > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkqe4BYsllmcxo2dsF-rFQw> on youtube > > e-mail <mailto:stu...@audio2u.com> | Twitter > <http://twitter.com/audio2u> | LinkedIn > <http://linkedin.com/in/bruce-williams-4893181/> | Facebook > <http://facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > <http://soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > <http://quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5?share=1> > > > -- Forwarded message - > From: *Pascal Obry* mailto:pas...@obry.net>> > Date: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 3:05 PM > Subject: [darktable-dev] dt 4.0 : string freeze > To: darktable-dev <mailto:darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org>> > > > > Hi dev, > > Just to let you know that string freeze is now effective. > > Next milestone is : code freeze - June 20. > > The schedule is ahead of time compared to what I had announced mid > April. This is to allow a bit more time for bug fixing for this > important release. > > Have a nice day, > > -- >Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] dt 4.0 : string freeze
Pascal, Is there a target release date? Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com>, the world's best-loved photography podcast Understanding darktable <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkqe4BYsllmcxo2dsF-rFQw> on youtube e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://linkedin.com/in/bruce-williams-4893181/> | Facebook <http://facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <http://quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5?share=1> -- Forwarded message - From: Pascal Obry Date: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 3:05 PM Subject: [darktable-dev] dt 4.0 : string freeze To: darktable-dev Hi dev, Just to let you know that string freeze is now effective. Next milestone is : code freeze - June 20. The schedule is ahead of time compared to what I had announced mid April. This is to allow a bit more time for bug fixing for this important release. Have a nice day, -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Was it always like this?
Well, don't I just feel like a clown? Yep, you guys are correct the scroll bar IS actually there. Must have been having a senior moment. Apologies! :) Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com>, the world's best-loved photography podcast Understanding darktable <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkqe4BYsllmcxo2dsF-rFQw> on youtube e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://linkedin.com/in/bruce-williams-4893181/> | Facebook <http://facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <http://quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5?share=1> -- Forwarded message - From: Dimitri Gathy Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Was it always like this? To: Bruce Williams "to make the vertical scrollbar appear" They are always on the left or on the right of the Dt windows. They follow what is in the bottom. if it's with osx, there are problems. Le lun. 3 janv. 2022 à 11:53, Bruce Williams a écrit : > Hi devs, > I just noticed something and wasn't sure if this behaviour has always > existed, or if it is something that has slipped through the cracks with 3.8. > I was in darkroom view, had the filmstrip hidden, and the export module > expanded. > See www.understandingdarktable.com/devs/3.8-no-filmstrip.png > Then, when I activated the filmstrip, the bottom of the export module got > clipped off (can't see the export button). > See www.understandingdarktable.com/devs/3.8-with-filmstrip.png > Is there any way to make the vertical scrollbar appear in such a case, and > force the modules (whether left or right side is irrelevant) to scroll up a > bit? > If this IS a bug, let me know, and I'll open a ticket on github. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com>, the world's > best-loved photography podcast > > Understanding darktable > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkqe4BYsllmcxo2dsF-rFQw> on youtube > > e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://linkedin.com/in/bruce-williams-4893181/> | Facebook > <http://facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://soundcloud.com/audio2u> > | Quora <http://quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5?share=1> > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Was it always like this?
Hi devs, I just noticed something and wasn't sure if this behaviour has always existed, or if it is something that has slipped through the cracks with 3.8. I was in darkroom view, had the filmstrip hidden, and the export module expanded. See www.understandingdarktable.com/devs/3.8-no-filmstrip.png Then, when I activated the filmstrip, the bottom of the export module got clipped off (can't see the export button). See www.understandingdarktable.com/devs/3.8-with-filmstrip.png Is there any way to make the vertical scrollbar appear in such a case, and force the modules (whether left or right side is irrelevant) to scroll up a bit? If this IS a bug, let me know, and I'll open a ticket on github. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Shutters Inc podcast <http://www.shuttersincpodcast.com>, the world's best-loved photography podcast Understanding darktable <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkqe4BYsllmcxo2dsF-rFQw> on youtube e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://linkedin.com/in/bruce-williams-4893181/> | Facebook <http://facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <http://quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5?share=1> ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable 3.8.0 released
I would like to echo these sentiments. Thank you to all of the developers who contribute to darktable. Thank you also to Coding Dave who has helped me on numerous occasions to understand github. Thank you to Aurélien for always sharing his knowledge and expertise when I'm struggling to understand some concept or other. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you all! Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Willy Williams Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021, 06:55 Subject: Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.8.0 released To: And after reading p. 285 in The Fine Manual, I find that the "A" machine is using the display-referred module order, but have yet to find where that can be rectified to the scene-referred module order. Ideas are most welcome. Willy Williams On 12/24/2021 at 10:35, Willy Williams wrote: First off, Merry Christmas to all, and thanks aplenty to the developers of darktable for yet another release. Now to a point of confusion for me. I have two basically identical Win 10 machines on which darktable is installed. In checking my configurations after loading v3.8 this morning I find that both machines are set to scene-referred (preferences - processing). All other options are identical on both machines. Yet when I open a photo in darkroom on the "B" machine, the module order precisely follows the scene-referred module order specified in Section 12.7 on p. 282 of The Fine Manual as follows: watermark framing monochrome lowlight vision velvia color correction shadows and highlights contrast brightness saturation color balance rgb sharpen astrophoto denoise censorize crop exposure retouch rotate and perspective haze removal lens correction denoise (profiled) white balance On the "A" machine, the modules selected are the same, yet the order is mostly different as follows: watermark framing velvia sharpen color correction contrast brightness saturation monochrome lowlight vision shadows and highlights astrophoto denoise color balance rgb censorize haze removal crop rotate and perspective lens correction retouch exposure denoise (profiled) white balance Those modules in red are NOT in the sequence specified in Section 12.7 on p. 282 of The Fine Manual, and as yet, I've not found a means of correcting the module order to be in sync with the specified order in The Fine Manual. Can anyone point me in the right direction to correct the module order on the "A" machine? We certainly do not wish to upset the module order gods on Christmas Eve. Thanks for any insights. Willy Williams ** darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.6 released
That will be obvious by looking at your preferences/import and looking at the text string in the "base directory naming pattern" and "sub directory naming pattern" fields. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Matthias Elsdörfer Date: Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] darktable 3.6 released To: Solarer Cc: Thanks, Jan! Yeah, technically, what I did was: I copied the pictures from my SD card to my /home/Test/ folder, like I always do. Then, I used "import and copy" in DT and pointed to that folder. What I didn't realize that 3.6 now actually makes new copies somewhere else on the file system. That's why I was so surprised later to find all 73 CR2s still there in /home/Test, and no XMP files at all. What I'm wondering is, where on my file system is the directory that DT copied my files to and placed my XMPs in? <https://www.brandartery.com> Matthias Elsdörfer · Weitererzähler. a.k.a. Matt Eastwood Web Design · Fotografie Copywriting · Kommunikation Website <https://www.brandartery.com/> · Matts Fotografie <https://www.meetmatteastwood.com/> Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701 On 7/7/21 9:26 AM, Solarer wrote: Hi Matthias, there are 2 ways to delete pictures. You can just remove them from your catalog or truely delete them from your disk. You probably used the first option. That is why they were still inside the folder when you moved it and so they showed up again. Your edits are stored in xmp files. Can you see those? You need to copy them as well! Best, Jan -- 07.07.2021 08:51:41 Matthias Elsdörfer : Quick follow-up... I read through the announcement more thoroughly now and realize that what previously was the "import" button is now the "add to library" button. I also found that DT on my laptop still had all the files, so I used DT's own "move" feature to put them back into my home folder. I'd still like to know where they were copied to in the first place. I couldn't find that info in your article. <https://www.brandartery.com> Matthias Elsdörfer · Weitererzähler. a.k.a. Matt Eastwood Web Design · Fotografie Copywriting · Kommunikation Website <https://www.brandartery.com/> · Matts Fotografie <https://www.meetmatteastwood.com/> Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701 On 7/7/21 8:32 AM, Matthias Elsdörfer wrote: Hello, Darktable team! First of all, thanks so much for this new release, it's always extremely exciting to hear about one and to test it out. I've been a user since 2013 and the program just keeps getting better. I do have a problem with the new "Copy and Import" feature though. I worked through a whole photo session on Monday on my laptop, deleting over 40 pictures and retouching the remaining 30. Then, I moved the whole folder over to my desktop PC. When I opened it on my desktop today, I found that the 40 pictures I deleted were back and all my editing work was gone. Why? Where did it go? Do my files get copied somewhere when I import them? What's wrong with keeping them where I put them in the first place? I hope you can help me make sense of this and, perhaps, recover my 2 hours of work. I'm hoping it's still somewhere on my laptop. Thanks, Matt. <https://www.brandartery.com> Matthias Elsdörfer · Weitererzähler. a.k.a. Matt Eastwood Web Design · Fotografie Copywriting · Kommunikation Website <https://www.brandartery.com/> · Matts Fotografie <https://www.meetmatteastwood.com/> Phone: (+49) 170 - 7 555 701 On 7/3/21 10:14 AM, Pascal Obry wrote: We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.6.0! The github release is here: [https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0) . As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by github, but only our tar.xz file. the checksums are: ``` $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz 86bcd0184af38b93c3688dffd3d5c19cc65f268ecf9358d649fa11fe26c70a39 darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg 12c9319d68dac5b1b5602bf470254467b90f5c5b9d2e93ea081d42884cfd4f80 darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe aad925988545ff3c50f54243520e8481c695b38b209daa808a490113f6400374 darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe ``` When updating from the currently stable 3.4.x series, please bear in mind that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new library and configuration will not be usable with 3.4.
[darktable-dev] Fwd: [darktable-user] darktable 3.6 released
Hear hear! Bloody awesome release! Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Willy Williams Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021, 01:22 Subject: Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.6 released To: Many thanks to all the developers for this release! Your work is very much appreciated! Willy Williams ** On 7/3/2021 at 4:14, Pascal Obry wrote: We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.6.0! The github release is here: [https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0) . As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by github, but only our tar.xz file. the checksums are: ``` $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz 86bcd0184af38b93c3688dffd3d5c19cc65f268ecf9358d649fa11fe26c70a39 darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg 12c9319d68dac5b1b5602bf470254467b90f5c5b9d2e93ea081d42884cfd4f80 darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe aad925988545ff3c50f54243520e8481c695b38b209daa808a490113f6400374 darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe ``` When updating from the currently stable 3.4.x series, please bear in mind that your edits will be preserved during this process, but the new library and configuration will not be usable with 3.4.x any more. You are strongly advised to take a backup first. Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep on supporting the raw file format for your camera, *please* read [this post](https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri) on how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the *full* raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license! - Almost 2680 commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.4 - 954 pull requests handled - 290 issues closed ## The Big Ones - Full rework of the import module. The new module allows you to see thumbnails of your images before import and makes it easier to handle multiple import tasks. The same dialog is now used for importing from disk, card or camera. When importing "in-place", images that are already present in darktable are flagged and can be automatically excluded from the import. Importing from a local drive won't use gphoto and so should work more reliably on Windows. - A vector-scope is added to complement the current histogram, waveform and parade views. - A new default demosaic algorithm (RCD) has been introduced, which should provide better quality than the current default (PPG) without the long run- times of AMaZE. the order of the demosaic algorithms has also been adjusted for clarity. - Support for "dual demosaic" has also been added, allowing you to combine "RCD + VNG4" and "AMaZE + VNG4" for bayer sensors, for xtrans sensors there is "Markesteijn 3-pass + VNG". This allows you to use an algorithm better resolving fine detail and another one delivering smoother output depending on local image content. - You can now create an opacity mask based on the sharpness of the image. This uses a similar algorithm to that used in dual demosaic. - Drawn shapes are drawn on the original RAW image and then distorted through the pixelpipe. This previously led to, for example, circles becoming ellipses (due to lens distortion) after being placed on the image. All drawn shapes can now be pre-visualized and moved prior to placement, with full deformation applied. This makes the editing of masks easier fully WYSIWYG. - A new Color Balance RGB module has been added. This can be used as a one stop module for all color grading work. - A new censorize module has been added. This allows you to hide parts of the image by adding a blur/pixelization. - A new crop module has been added. This new module has been added late in the pixelpipe and makes it possible to use cropped parts of the image for source spots in the retouch module, for example. - A new section has been added to the color calibration module to allow you to calibrate colors using a color checker chart. - The map module has been enhanced in a number of ways: - When importing a GPX the trace can be displayed. - Location can be set using polygons and directly created from information reported by Open Street Map. As a reminder, all locations create tags automatically for images placed into the area. - The basic adjustments module has been replaced with the quick access panel, which can be used to group controls from multiple different modules in one place. Currently, only non-graphical controls (sliders, comboboxes etc.) can be used. ## Other New Features And Changes - The various lighttable modes can now be accessed via clear and descriptive icons at the bottom of the screen. These should be easier to use than the existing drop-down selection. - The export module is now also accessible on the left-hand panel of the
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Re: migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host
So, I tried sending a message to this e-mail address: test-de...@testlists.darktable.org ...but the mail server couldn't deliver it. Did I do something wrong? Cheers, Bruce Williams -- brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Torsten Bronger Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 8:26 PM Subject: [darktable-dev] Re: migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host To: Hallöchen! chressie writes: > i'm the silent owner of the server that hosts lists.darktable.org. > for various reasons i want to move the lists to a different host. If I understand this correctly, nothing has to be done for keeping the syncing to Gmane newsgroups alive? (It works though special member accounts with mail addresses redirected to Gmane.) Tschö, Torsten. -- Torsten Bronger ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host
Thanks! That worked! Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: chressie Date: Sun, 16 May 2021, 16:58 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host To: Bruce Williams Cc: darktable Sorry. To subscribe to the mailing list you need to send an email to test-devel+subscr...@testlists.darktable.org As described in https://www.darktable.org/contact/ Bruce Williams schrieb am So., 16. Mai 2021, 08:49: > Not sure what that is. > Can you elaborate? > > Cheers, > Bruce Williams. > > -- Forwarded message - > From: chressie > Date: Sun, 16 May 2021, 16:43 > Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host > To: Bruce Williams > Cc: darktable > > > Have you tried the usual test-devel+subscribe thing? > > Bruce Williams schrieb am So., 16. Mai 2021, 08:20: > >> This is what I got when I sent an e-mail with the subject line >> "subscribe": >> >> Mail Delivery System >> 4:18 PM (0 minutes ago) >> Reply >> to me >> This is the mail system at host ml.darktable.org. >> >> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not >> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. >> >> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. >> >> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can >> delete your own text from the attached returned message. >> >>The mail system >> >> : Command died with >> status >> 1: "/usr/bin/mlmmj-amime-receive" >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> Bruce Williams >> -- >> brucewilliamsphotography.com >> shuttersincpodcast.com >> >> e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | >> LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud >> <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora >> <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message - >> From: chressie >> Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 4:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host >> To: Bruce Williams >> >> >> thanks for your help! i created a list for testing >> test-de...@testlists.darktable.org. please subscribe, send messages, >> reply, check whether mails go to or are classified as spam etc. >> >> cheers, >> -chressie >> >> Bruce Williams schrieb am So., 16. Mai 2021, 08:08: >> >>> OK, sure, add my name to the list. Happy to help test it. >>> Cheers, >>> Bruce Williams >>> -- >>> brucewilliamsphotography.com >>> shuttersincpodcast.com >>> >>> e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | >>> LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | >>> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud >>> <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora >>> <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Forwarded message ----- >>> From: chressie >>> Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 4:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host >>> To: Bruce Williams >>> Cc: darktable >>> >>> >>> hi bruce, >>> >>> to gain some confidence in the new setup, volunteers would have to >>> subscribe to a test mailing list, send messages, reply, check whether mails >>> go to or are classified as spam etc. >>> >>> thanks, >>> -chressie >>> >>> On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 2:58 AM Bruce Williams >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What actions would a potential volunteer need to perform in this >>>> move/testing phase? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Bruce Williams. >>>> >>>> -- Forwarded message - >>>> From: chressie >>>> Date: Sun, 16 May 2021, 01:07 >>>> Subject: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host >>>> To: , Jo >>>> >>>> >>>> hey, >>>> >>>> i'm the silent owner of the server that hosts lists.darktable.org. >>>> for various reasons i want to mov
Fwd: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host
Not sure what that is. Can you elaborate? Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: chressie Date: Sun, 16 May 2021, 16:43 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host To: Bruce Williams Cc: darktable Have you tried the usual test-devel+subscribe thing? Bruce Williams schrieb am So., 16. Mai 2021, 08:20: > This is what I got when I sent an e-mail with the subject line "subscribe": > > Mail Delivery System > 4:18 PM (0 minutes ago) > Reply > to me > This is the mail system at host ml.darktable.org. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > >The mail system > > : Command died with > status > 1: "/usr/bin/mlmmj-amime-receive" > > > > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > > e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > -- > > > > > ------ Forwarded message - > From: chressie > Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host > To: Bruce Williams > > > thanks for your help! i created a list for testing > test-de...@testlists.darktable.org. please subscribe, send messages, > reply, check whether mails go to or are classified as spam etc. > > cheers, > -chressie > > Bruce Williams schrieb am So., 16. Mai 2021, 08:08: > >> OK, sure, add my name to the list. Happy to help test it. >> Cheers, >> Bruce Williams >> -- >> brucewilliamsphotography.com >> shuttersincpodcast.com >> >> e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | >> LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud >> <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora >> <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message - >> From: chressie >> Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 4:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host >> To: Bruce Williams >> Cc: darktable >> >> >> hi bruce, >> >> to gain some confidence in the new setup, volunteers would have to >> subscribe to a test mailing list, send messages, reply, check whether mails >> go to or are classified as spam etc. >> >> thanks, >> -chressie >> >> On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 2:58 AM Bruce Williams >> wrote: >> >>> What actions would a potential volunteer need to perform in this >>> move/testing phase? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bruce Williams. >>> >>> -- Forwarded message - >>> From: chressie >>> Date: Sun, 16 May 2021, 01:07 >>> Subject: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host >>> To: , Jo >>> >>> >>> hey, >>> >>> i'm the silent owner of the server that hosts lists.darktable.org. >>> for various reasons i want to move the lists to a different host. >>> >>> the potential new host is already set up and seems to work. is anybody >>> willing to help testing the setup before i do the switch? please let me >>> know, so i can share the test list with you. >>> >>> once the setup is tested i'd do the following: >>> 0. send an announcement to darktable-user@, darktable-dev@, and >>> #darktable that the switch is happening >>> 1. stop the smtp server on the old host >>> 2. copy all of mlmmj config files, archives, etc to the new host >>> 3. switch the MX entry of lists.darktable.org to point to the new host >>> 4. update the announcement that everything's back to normal >>> >>> i would like to do the switch in the next 1-2 weeks, if all works well. >>> >>> let me know if you have any questions. >>> >>> cheers, >>> -chressie >
Fwd: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host
This is what I got when I sent an e-mail with the subject line "subscribe": Mail Delivery System 4:18 PM (0 minutes ago) Reply to me This is the mail system at host ml.darktable.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system : Command died with status 1: "/usr/bin/mlmmj-amime-receive" Cheers, Bruce Williams -- brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: chressie Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host To: Bruce Williams thanks for your help! i created a list for testing test-de...@testlists.darktable.org. please subscribe, send messages, reply, check whether mails go to or are classified as spam etc. cheers, -chressie Bruce Williams schrieb am So., 16. Mai 2021, 08:08: > OK, sure, add my name to the list. Happy to help test it. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > > e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > -- > > > > > -- Forwarded message - > From: chressie > Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 4:00 PM > Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host > To: Bruce Williams > Cc: darktable > > > hi bruce, > > to gain some confidence in the new setup, volunteers would have to > subscribe to a test mailing list, send messages, reply, check whether mails > go to or are classified as spam etc. > > thanks, > -chressie > > On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 2:58 AM Bruce Williams wrote: > >> What actions would a potential volunteer need to perform in this >> move/testing phase? >> >> Cheers, >> Bruce Williams. >> >> -- Forwarded message - >> From: chressie >> Date: Sun, 16 May 2021, 01:07 >> Subject: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host >> To: , Jo >> >> >> hey, >> >> i'm the silent owner of the server that hosts lists.darktable.org. >> for various reasons i want to move the lists to a different host. >> >> the potential new host is already set up and seems to work. is anybody >> willing to help testing the setup before i do the switch? please let me >> know, so i can share the test list with you. >> >> once the setup is tested i'd do the following: >> 0. send an announcement to darktable-user@, darktable-dev@, and >> #darktable that the switch is happening >> 1. stop the smtp server on the old host >> 2. copy all of mlmmj config files, archives, etc to the new host >> 3. switch the MX entry of lists.darktable.org to point to the new host >> 4. update the announcement that everything's back to normal >> >> i would like to do the switch in the next 1-2 weeks, if all works well. >> >> let me know if you have any questions. >> >> cheers, >> -chressie >> >> ___ >> darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> >> ___ >> darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host
OK, sure, add my name to the list. Happy to help test it. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: chressie Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host To: Bruce Williams Cc: darktable hi bruce, to gain some confidence in the new setup, volunteers would have to subscribe to a test mailing list, send messages, reply, check whether mails go to or are classified as spam etc. thanks, -chressie On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 2:58 AM Bruce Williams wrote: > What actions would a potential volunteer need to perform in this > move/testing phase? > > Cheers, > Bruce Williams. > > -- Forwarded message - > From: chressie > Date: Sun, 16 May 2021, 01:07 > Subject: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host > To: , Jo > > > hey, > > i'm the silent owner of the server that hosts lists.darktable.org. > for various reasons i want to move the lists to a different host. > > the potential new host is already set up and seems to work. is anybody > willing to help testing the setup before i do the switch? please let me > know, so i can share the test list with you. > > once the setup is tested i'd do the following: > 0. send an announcement to darktable-user@, darktable-dev@, and > #darktable that the switch is happening > 1. stop the smtp server on the old host > 2. copy all of mlmmj config files, archives, etc to the new host > 3. switch the MX entry of lists.darktable.org to point to the new host > 4. update the announcement that everything's back to normal > > i would like to do the switch in the next 1-2 weeks, if all works well. > > let me know if you have any questions. > > cheers, > -chressie > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host
What actions would a potential volunteer need to perform in this move/testing phase? Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: chressie Date: Sun, 16 May 2021, 01:07 Subject: [darktable-dev] migrating lists.darktable.org to a new host To: , Jo hey, i'm the silent owner of the server that hosts lists.darktable.org. for various reasons i want to move the lists to a different host. the potential new host is already set up and seems to work. is anybody willing to help testing the setup before i do the switch? please let me know, so i can share the test list with you. once the setup is tested i'd do the following: 0. send an announcement to darktable-user@, darktable-dev@, and #darktable that the switch is happening 1. stop the smtp server on the old host 2. copy all of mlmmj config files, archives, etc to the new host 3. switch the MX entry of lists.darktable.org to point to the new host 4. update the announcement that everything's back to normal i would like to do the switch in the next 1-2 weeks, if all works well. let me know if you have any questions. cheers, -chressie ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] FR: New presets of visible modules
Hi all, Following my "Newbies introduction to darktable" video, the discussion came up about linear modules vs LAB modules. And I thought it would make sense to have a couple of extra presets in the More Modules hamburger menu. Namely, "Subset: LInear modules" and "Subset: LAB modules" options. Thoughts? Would these be valid entries to add? Or would they simply sow the seeds of more confusion? Cheers, Bruce Williams -- brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] idea to consider
"Yet people love them because marketing expenses make up for dev mediocrity and overall stupidity." It's like VHS v Betacam or Windoze v Linux all over again! Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Aurélien Pierre Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020, 09:09 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] idea to consider To: 1. that still doesn't give you the jpeg cooking recipe, which is more complicated than building an ad-hoc LUT or a tonecurve if local filters are applied (and there are), 2. what is it with people editing jpegs ? That's nonsensical ! Not the same workflow, not the same maths, not the same filters, not the same pipeline, not the same software. A raw is an output-agnostic linearly encoded master picture that you can still salvage from the beginning, a jpeg is already non-linearly cooked for display assuming dim viewing conditions (as per sRGB standard) and firmware blackboxes. People need to stop dealing with image processing as if everyone was right and correctness didn't matter. It's not a silly magic game of pixels values, there are assumptions to assert underneath the hood. Sometimes I wish image processing could kill people, as civil engineering or medicine do, so people would start taking it seriously and check the theory behind before doing shit carelessly. That kind of silly workflow will blow up in your face 50 % of times because there is zero reliability in handling pre-baked jpegs with all the firmwares discrepancies in a software designed to unroll image operations on raw files. Then I will let you deal with users who don't understand why the workflow is so unpredictable. Indulging bad habits of users is not a solution, especially since we don't sell anything/whore ourselves out. Let's be rigorous about pixels operations and do things properly. Want to edit jpegs ? Use bloody Photoshop and the likes. They are good at doing shit, don't care about color consistency, don't care about light emissions, don't even do associated alpha occlusion properly. Yet people love them because marketing expenses make up for dev mediocrity and overall stupidity. Le 30/08/2020 à 17:05, Jason Polak a écrit : Another possibility is shooting Raw+JPEG. With this option you can still tune the JPEG engine in the camera somewhat with most models, and if you need to edit you can go to the Raw file. Also, you can make some minor edits directly on a JPEG file. Also, for people who are already working in JPEG, why would they suddenly switch to Raw format just to batch process Raw files to get what the camera would give them anyway? On 30/08/2020 08.22, Chris Shelton wrote: Some photographers work in jpg only and sometimes I would not question their creative ability while maybe questioning the technical choice although I suppose they do avoid the mistake of overworking and gilding the lily I thought that the appeal of Darktable could be expanded to include people like this by having a facility whereby raw images are batch processed to create set of jpg images in a similar way tothe way jpg images are created by in-camera processing, maybe in the light table module; there would still be the option to work on a raw image as normal. ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Build 2483
A! Will do. Thanks! Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Hubert Kowalski Date: Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Build 2483 To: Bruce Williams Cc: darktable unfortunately you have to restart darktable for changes to take effect and not be applied in a weird way :/ wt., 21 lip 2020 o 14:14 Bruce Williams napisał(a): > Hi all, > Just looking at build 2483 and reading the release notes for 3.2 in > preparation for putting a video together. > Notes say that the new scene-referred workflow is the default, and use > Filmic v4 and Exposure. > Yet, when I import some new images, I notice that Filmic AND Base Curve > are active by default. > Is this a bug, or am I misunderstanding something? > Devs, great work on the redesign! Looks fantastic. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > > e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > -- > > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > -- Pozdrawiam, Hubert Kowalski ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Build 2483
Hi all, Just looking at build 2483 and reading the release notes for 3.2 in preparation for putting a video together. Notes say that the new scene-referred workflow is the default, and use Filmic v4 and Exposure. Yet, when I import some new images, I notice that Filmic AND Base Curve are active by default. Is this a bug, or am I misunderstanding something? Devs, great work on the redesign! Looks fantastic. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] First darktable 3.2 article ready in english
Apologies in advance from up here in the cheap seats, where I don't github very often. :) Would someone be so kind as to remind me how I can read these release notes, please? Much appreciated! Cheers, Bruce Williams -- brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Nicolas Auffray Date: Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] First darktable 3.2 article ready in english To: Mica Semrick , < darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org> Hi Mica, Thanks for you proposal for review. It's better to do a series of review comments on the PR. I already had fix existing reviews so you could check last corrected version of the article. Maybe some things forgotten. Le 19/07/2020 à 23:27, Mica Semrick a écrit : Would you prefer a proof read as a PR on top of your PR, or as a series of review comments on the PR? On July 19, 2020 6:05:29 AM PDT, Nicolas Auffray wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm please to inform you that I just finish the english version that > present the future 3.2. Be careful: it's just a first version, I don't read > it again by now and will do that ASAP, so you will certainly see some > mistakes and maybe some sentences to rewrite. > > You could find the article (and english screenshots) on this draft PR: > https://github.com/darktable-org/dtorg/pull/111 > > Feel free to review it (and propose corrections) but please don't change > anything else that just correct my english. This english version is based > on a french article. So the original is that french article and i had been > reviewed by some users and it's completely over and validate. But also, I > know that german translation, made by @bilddateien, is nearly done. > > Maurizio, if you read that, I hope you will have time to do the italian > one as always. > > Of course, if someone else want to translate it in another language, it > will be great. Just think about inform me to the language and future > article link to add them on top of the article (by now, french, italian and > german links are already there but of course could be updated if needed). > > Hope to see some of your reviews on that PR. > > Best regards, > > Nicolas Auffray (Nilvus) > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Issue with collections module
I'm on mint 19.1 Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Date: Sat., 25 Apr. 2020, 01:46 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Issue with collections module To: darktable-dev Hi Bruce What sounds strange to me is that your vertical and horizontal scroll bar are overlapping. On my side (debian), they don't overlap and the horizontal scroll bar doesn't hide any text (even the last line). Which OS do you use ? Philippe De : "Bruce Williams" A : "darktable" Envoyé: vendredi 24 Avril 2020 15:31 Objet : [darktable-dev] Issue with collections module Hi all, Sorry in advance. I know you'd prefer bugs and feature requests to go through github, but I just don't understand the process that well. And this isn't really a BUG per se, more an annoyance. Here's a screen capture of what happens when you try to click on a searched tag from the collections module, when that tag is the final tag in the list http://www.audio2u.com/images/darktable/cramped.png What happens is this bizarre horizontal scroll bar appears across the bottom of the module, and robs you of 50% of the screen real estate to actually click on that tag item. I don't even understand why that horizontal bar appears. It's not like the queried tags exceed the width of the module. But it seems to me that if that bar HAS to appear, then it should push the tag results up so that you can click on the final tag unimpeded. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Issue with collections module
Hi all, Sorry in advance. I know you'd prefer bugs and feature requests to go through github, but I just don't understand the process that well. And this isn't really a BUG per se, more an annoyance. Here's a screen capture of what happens when you try to click on a searched tag from the collections module, when that tag is the final tag in the list http://www.audio2u.com/images/darktable/cramped.png What happens is this bizarre horizontal scroll bar appears across the bottom of the module, and robs you of 50% of the screen real estate to actually click on that tag item. I don't even understand why that horizontal bar appears. It's not like the queried tags exceed the width of the module. But it seems to me that if that bar HAS to appear, then it should push the tag results up so that you can click on the final tag unimpeded. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] FR: Prompt for name on "new instance"
That could work, too. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Chris Elston Date: Tue., 28 Jan. 2020, 23:28 Subject: [darktable-dev] FR: Prompt for name on "new instance" To: Personally I want a named instance only some of the time so an on/off switch doesn't quite work for me. Perhaps a better solution might be a new *option* in the multiple instance menu "new named instance" would reduce the number of clicks required. Chris ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] FR: Prompt for name on "new instance"
So, my idea is an option in preferences which says something like "Upon selecting "new instance" from the 'multiple instances' menu, automatically prompt for new name". Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature request: Star icon on module headers
Fair enough! Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Nicolas Auffray Date: Sun., 5 Jan. 2020, 23:31 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Feature request: Star icon on module headers To: darktable Hi Bruce, and all, I think is not a good idea. This will add one more icon so reduce space size on the line. And with some languages like french who use some longer words, space used is space less for image. I would also add that favorite icon is mostly used one time to set all favorites and most of the time is not more use, and only after first set when a new module or some change appear on user workflow. So not so often used like actual icons. Best regards, Nicolas Auffray Le 05/01/2020 à 06:05, Bruce Williams a écrit : Hi all, Just wanted to throw an idea out there. With the introduction of the search bar in dt 3, I find that I often will search for a module which I don't have marked as a 'favourite'. My FR is that if ANY text has been entered into the search box, an additional icon (a star) be placed on the module headers alongside the 'multiple instances', 'reset' and 'preset' buttons. This would allow adding a module immediately to the favourites list. Anyone else feel as though this might be useful? Cheers, Bruce Williams -- audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Feature request: Star icon on module headers
Hi all, Just wanted to throw an idea out there. With the introduction of the search bar in dt 3, I find that I often will search for a module which I don't have marked as a 'favourite'. My FR is that if ANY text has been entered into the search box, an additional icon (a star) be placed on the module headers alongside the 'multiple instances', 'reset' and 'preset' buttons. This would allow adding a module immediately to the favourites list. Anyone else feel as though this might be useful? Cheers, Bruce Williams -- audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Filmic RGB
Aurélien, Just seeking some clarification. Is the read-only graph in filmic RGB linear or log? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Bruce Williams. ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0
I've added a couple of minor grammatical tweaks. Nothing major. :) Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Isabelle Hurbain-Palatin Date: Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 To: Aurélien Pierre Cc: Bruce Williams , darktable < darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org> Hi all, I just opened a PR for the filmic rgb documentation: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/3835 @Aurélien: there's a few questions for you in there (prefixed with IHU in the comments of the XML) - also, I hope I didn't deform your (great) input too much :) @Bruce: review of my french-tinted english more than welcome :) Cheers! Isabelle On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 10:33 PM Isabelle Hurbain-Palatin < isabe...@palatin.fr> wrote: > Hi folks, > the week has been busier than expected, but I'm not working on monday, and > I expect to have a better idea by Monday evening. A priori, unless there's > a large surprise, I should be able to ask for a PR by the end of next week > for filmic RGB, including reorganization to fit with filmic 2.6. > Aurélien: your content is very clear and very well structured - I wish I > were always dealing with source material of that quality! > Cheers, > Isabelle > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:55 PM Isabelle Hurbain-Palatin < > isabe...@palatin.fr> wrote: > >> Hi Aurélien, >> Yup, the arrangement is still on - it's a bit of the "silly part of the >> year", so time may be more tight than I'd like, but it should work out. >> I'll have a look at what you have already and I'll come back to you and >> Bruce with what I feel is feasible on my end in the next week or so. >> Cheers, >> Isabelle >> >> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:37 PM Aurélien Pierre < >> rese...@aurelienpierre.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello Isabelle and William and everyone, >>> >>> is this arrangement still on ? I have started emptying my brain here (in >>> English) : >>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4EYo8VotTsiZLr3BqGeBRj-qYGO63bIv >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Aurélien. >>> >>> PS : Yes I'm French :-) >>> Le 18/08/2019 à 11:17, Isabelle Hurbain-Palatin a écrit : >>> >>> Hi all, >>> If there's an easy way to split the work and to share it, I'd be more >>> than happy to help - it's more than time I start contributing to the >>> awesomeness that is Darktable, and I do have a fair amount of experience >>> writing doc (although English is not my native language, so English >>> proofreading would be required). Videos explaining what's new and how it >>> works would be tremendously helpful! (this is mostly how I work when I >>> write our software documentation these days at work...). I'm assuming >>> individual module documentation at least can be delegated individually. >>> @Aurélien - considering your name, I'm assuming you're a native French >>> speaker - if the work is divided beforehand and it's easier for you, you >>> could provide info in French to me as well. >>> Best regards, >>> Isabelle >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 11:06 AM Aurélien Pierre < >>> rese...@aurelienpierre.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> for last 2.6 version, it took me a full-time week to write the doc for >>>> 3 modules, trying to accurately describe how they worked in a vulgarized >>>> way, in my 3rd language. Instead, will it be helpful if I recorded videos >>>> showing what's new and how it works (possibly in a disorganized/non-linear >>>> order), and let you put the information in shape for a documentation ? Not >>>> that I want to give you the bad job, but I might be more useful on the >>>> debugging team, as the release approaches. I'm still happy to do >>>> proof-reading. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Aurélien. >>>> Le 18/08/2019 à 06:34, Bruce Williams a écrit : >>>> >>>> Thanks, I'll check it out! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Bruce Williams. >>>> >>>> ---
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Changelog
Rawfiner, Yep, just been swamped at work and have barely had time to scratch myself, let alone reply to this list. Sorry. And thanks! I'm hoping to get into some deep reading this weekend. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: rawfiner Date: Tue., 17 Dec. 2019, 19:29 Subject: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Changelog To: Hi Bruce I just wanted to make sure you received my reply, as these days I sometimes don't get all emails from darktable dev list. Cheers, rawfiner -- Forwarded message - De : rawfiner Date: ven. 13 déc. 2019 à 21:20 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Changelog To: Cc: darktable There are several ressources on discuss.pixls.us about some of the changes. See: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/new-interface-in-darktable-2-7-dev/12106 https://discuss.pixls.us/t/tagging-improvements-in-darktable-2-7/13571 https://discuss.pixls.us/t/3d-lut-module-in-darktable-2-7-dev/12341 https://discuss.pixls.us/t/changes-in-noise-reduction-for-darktable-2-7-3-0/14672 https://discuss.pixls.us/t/a-tone-equalizer-in-darktable/10678/102 https://discuss.pixls.us/t/the-darktable-3-0-video-series/14837 As you can see in the last link, Aurélien Pierre has made some (great) video tutorials to explain some of the changes. Also, I will make a video about noise reduction (as usual) hopefully late december or early january to explain the changes and how to reduce noise with darktable 3.0. Cheers, rawfiner Le ven. 13 déc. 2019 à 20:56, Bruce Williams a écrit : > Thanks for the links, guys, much appreciated! > > Cheers, > Bruce Williams. > > -- Forwarded message - > From: Jochen Keil > Date: Fri., 13 Dec. 2019, 22:53 > Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Changelog > To: Bruce Williams > Cc: darktable > > > Hi Bruce, > > I'm not a developer, but allow me to step in: > > Here you can find a pretty comprehensive summary: > > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/blob/master/RELEASE_NOTES.md > > I think it's the base for this post: > > https://www.darktable.org/2019/11/darktable-300rc2-released/ > > HTH. :) > > Cheers, > > Jochen > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 11:51 AM Bruce Williams > wrote: > >> Hi Devs, >> Just wanted to ask, where is the best location to see/read up on all of >> the new features for 3.0? >> I'm starting to jot down ideas for new videos, and don't want to >> accidentally omit anything! >> Cheers, >> Bruce Williams >> -- >> >> audio2u.com >> brucewilliamsphotography.com >> shuttersincpodcast.com >> sinelanguagepodcast.com >> >> e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | >> LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud >> <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora >> <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> >> -- >> >> >> >> ___ >> darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Database lock file seems too lenient
I'm not at home right now, but if you are interested, I did a video on the local copies function. It's here if you want to have a squiz https://youtu.be/UQEBP__ETDA Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Owen Mays Date: Sun., 15 Dec. 2019, 09:00 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Database lock file seems too lenient To: Bruce Williams Cc: darktable Bruce, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately it looks like that doesn't do what I'm looking for. Edits made on one computer don't show up on the other computer (I think it's because they are only sharing the photo files, not the library database). Here's what I tried: Mount remote disk over sshfs. Select images. -> Make local copy. Edit image. "Resync local copies" When I open darktable on the other computer, those edits are nowhere to be seen, even if I request to "resync local copies." Does it matter how I have the remote directory mounted (using sshfs)? Is darktable attempting to detect whether storage is remote (NFS or SAMBA)? Thanks, Owen On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 12:29 PM Bruce Williams wrote: > Owen, > Have you looked at using the "local copies" feature? > That might be a safer alternative. > Just a thought. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams. > > -- Forwarded message - > From: Owen Mays > Date: Sun., 15 Dec. 2019, 05:03 > Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Database lock file seems too lenient > To: Sturm Flut > Cc: > > > Hi Simon, > > Thanks for the response. I have a couple follow-up questions: > > 1) Why go to the trouble of adding hostname to PID in the lock file, why > not just check for existence of the lock file and treat that as evidence > that the database is open? It looks like many lines of code have been > written in database.c dedicated to finding an excuse to ignore the lock > file :-) (by checking for a running process, etc). > > 2) Since sharing the library is not recommended, is there a recommended > way to have one computer be aware of edits made on/by another computer? The > problem I'm trying to solve is: my photos live on my laptop and are usually > imported and edited there. For large jobs, I would like to be able to do > processing on my desktop, which has a GPU. My current solution is to mount > my laptop harddrive on the desktop via sshfs and point both darktable > instances to a library file in the shared folder. > > 3) Is there any risk to the database in doing this, provided I avoid > having multiple darktable instances accessing the database at once? (For > instance, the bash script I have that launches darktable and points it at > the shared folder could also check for the existence of the lockfile and > respect it). > > Thanks, > Owen > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 3:08 AM Sturm Flut > wrote: > >> Hi Owen, >> >> the locking mechanism could probably be extended to also include the >> hostname in the lockfile. >> >> The problem with putting SQLite databases on a network share is that >> it's discouraged by SQLite [1] to begin with because too many things can >> go wrong. If darktable's locking mechanism fails for any reason, you >> might end up with two darktable instances on two difference machines >> accessing your database and corrupting it. >> >> cheers, >> Simon >> >> >> [1] https://www.sqlite.org/faq.html#q5 >> >> >> On 14.12.19 09:42, Owen Mays wrote: >> > Hello Darktable Devs, >> > >> > First of all, thanks for a fantastic program! >> > >> > I'm attempting to share a darktable library between two computers >> (using >> > the same network storage), and I'm concerned about accidentally >> > corrupting the database. Darktable creates a lock file, but when I >> > launch darktable on the second computer, it just overwrites the lock >> file. >> > >> > It appears this is due to logic in the database.c file that checks >> > whether the PID in the lockfile belongs to an active process. Because >> > the lockfile was created by a process on another computer, darktable >> > thinks the lockfile is stale and overwrites it. >> > >> > Is there a reason the lockfile is not more strict? Why go to the effort >> > of checking the PID, why not assume the lockfile means a lock, and if >> > it's stale, leave it to the user to resolve? >> > >> > I can create a bash script wrapper to launch darktable that will first >> > check for the lockfile, but I'd like to understand the design decision. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Owen >> > >> > >> ___
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Database lock file seems too lenient
Owen, Have you looked at using the "local copies" feature? That might be a safer alternative. Just a thought. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Owen Mays Date: Sun., 15 Dec. 2019, 05:03 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Database lock file seems too lenient To: Sturm Flut Cc: Hi Simon, Thanks for the response. I have a couple follow-up questions: 1) Why go to the trouble of adding hostname to PID in the lock file, why not just check for existence of the lock file and treat that as evidence that the database is open? It looks like many lines of code have been written in database.c dedicated to finding an excuse to ignore the lock file :-) (by checking for a running process, etc). 2) Since sharing the library is not recommended, is there a recommended way to have one computer be aware of edits made on/by another computer? The problem I'm trying to solve is: my photos live on my laptop and are usually imported and edited there. For large jobs, I would like to be able to do processing on my desktop, which has a GPU. My current solution is to mount my laptop harddrive on the desktop via sshfs and point both darktable instances to a library file in the shared folder. 3) Is there any risk to the database in doing this, provided I avoid having multiple darktable instances accessing the database at once? (For instance, the bash script I have that launches darktable and points it at the shared folder could also check for the existence of the lockfile and respect it). Thanks, Owen On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 3:08 AM Sturm Flut wrote: > Hi Owen, > > the locking mechanism could probably be extended to also include the > hostname in the lockfile. > > The problem with putting SQLite databases on a network share is that > it's discouraged by SQLite [1] to begin with because too many things can > go wrong. If darktable's locking mechanism fails for any reason, you > might end up with two darktable instances on two difference machines > accessing your database and corrupting it. > > cheers, > Simon > > > [1] https://www.sqlite.org/faq.html#q5 > > > On 14.12.19 09:42, Owen Mays wrote: > > Hello Darktable Devs, > > > > First of all, thanks for a fantastic program! > > > > I'm attempting to share a darktable library between two computers (using > > the same network storage), and I'm concerned about accidentally > > corrupting the database. Darktable creates a lock file, but when I > > launch darktable on the second computer, it just overwrites the lock > file. > > > > It appears this is due to logic in the database.c file that checks > > whether the PID in the lockfile belongs to an active process. Because > > the lockfile was created by a process on another computer, darktable > > thinks the lockfile is stale and overwrites it. > > > > Is there a reason the lockfile is not more strict? Why go to the effort > > of checking the PID, why not assume the lockfile means a lock, and if > > it's stale, leave it to the user to resolve? > > > > I can create a bash script wrapper to launch darktable that will first > > check for the lockfile, but I'd like to understand the design decision. > > > > Thanks, > > Owen > > > > > ___ > > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Changelog
Thanks for the links, guys, much appreciated! Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Jochen Keil Date: Fri., 13 Dec. 2019, 22:53 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Changelog To: Bruce Williams Cc: darktable Hi Bruce, I'm not a developer, but allow me to step in: Here you can find a pretty comprehensive summary: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/blob/master/RELEASE_NOTES.md I think it's the base for this post: https://www.darktable.org/2019/11/darktable-300rc2-released/ HTH. :) Cheers, Jochen On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 11:51 AM Bruce Williams wrote: > Hi Devs, > Just wanted to ask, where is the best location to see/read up on all of > the new features for 3.0? > I'm starting to jot down ideas for new videos, and don't want to > accidentally omit anything! > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > > audio2u.com > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > sinelanguagepodcast.com > > e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > -- > > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Changelog
Hi Devs, Just wanted to ask, where is the best location to see/read up on all of the new features for 3.0? I'm starting to jot down ideas for new videos, and don't want to accidentally omit anything! Cheers, Bruce Williams -- audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Export settings, not storing "on conflict" setting
This has always been the default behavior. That it will use "overwrite" one time only and then revert to "create unique filenames". However, if I'm not mistaken, version 3 is going to allow you to make it stick to "overwrite" if you want it to. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Coding Dave Date: Wed., 11 Dec. 2019, 05:13 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Export settings, not storing "on conflict" setting To: Cc: darktable Hi, I think this is an intentional decision. Julian Rickards schrieb am Di., 10. Dez. 2019, 17:43: > Hi: > > I'm running 2.6.3, I haven't tried any of the dev versions so can someone > check this for me please? > > When I create/edit an Export preset and set the "on conflict" to > "overwrite", it doesn't save this setting but reverts to "create unique > filename". > > Is this "reluctance" to save the "on conflict" to "overwrite" intentional? > If it is a bug, can someone check 3.0 and see if it has been fixed? > > Sorry, just noticed this. > > Not critical, can be left for 3.0.1. > > Thanks, > > Jules > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0
Aurelian, I've been watching your content as time allows! Love the new interface for filmic, btw. Great job! Happy to proof read your documentation, if that was what you are asking. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Aurélien Pierre Date: Tue., 3 Dec. 2019, 05:37 Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 To: Isabelle Hurbain-Palatin Cc: Bruce Williams , darktable < darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org> Hello Isabelle and William and everyone, is this arrangement still on ? I have started emptying my brain here (in English) : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4EYo8VotTsiZLr3BqGeBRj-qYGO63bIv Thanks, Aurélien. PS : Yes I'm French :-) Le 18/08/2019 à 11:17, Isabelle Hurbain-Palatin a écrit : Hi all, If there's an easy way to split the work and to share it, I'd be more than happy to help - it's more than time I start contributing to the awesomeness that is Darktable, and I do have a fair amount of experience writing doc (although English is not my native language, so English proofreading would be required). Videos explaining what's new and how it works would be tremendously helpful! (this is mostly how I work when I write our software documentation these days at work...). I'm assuming individual module documentation at least can be delegated individually. @Aurélien - considering your name, I'm assuming you're a native French speaker - if the work is divided beforehand and it's easier for you, you could provide info in French to me as well. Best regards, Isabelle On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 11:06 AM Aurélien Pierre wrote: > Hi, > > for last 2.6 version, it took me a full-time week to write the doc for 3 > modules, trying to accurately describe how they worked in a vulgarized way, > in my 3rd language. Instead, will it be helpful if I recorded videos > showing what's new and how it works (possibly in a disorganized/non-linear > order), and let you put the information in shape for a documentation ? Not > that I want to give you the bad job, but I might be more useful on the > debugging team, as the release approaches. I'm still happy to do > proof-reading. > > Cheers, > > Aurélien. > Le 18/08/2019 à 06:34, Bruce Williams a écrit : > > Thanks, I'll check it out! > > Cheers, > Bruce Williams. > > -- Forwarded message - > From: Ariel Kanterewicz > Date: Sun., 18 Aug. 2019, 09:06 > Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 > To: darktable > > > @Bruce: if you're willing to pay for it, there's a *really* nice git > course on pluralsight, it's the best intro to the topic I've found yet: > https://app.pluralsight.com/library/courses/how-git-works/ > > I'm excited to see the feature list in the new release, especially the > Culling mode :-D > > On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 at 22:38, Bruce Williams wrote: > >> I will certainly do what I can. >> As yet, I have not delved into the world of github, pull requests, >> merges, and so forth. >> Nor compiling! >> But when I get home from holiday (another 8 days), that is on my list of >> things to get up to speed on. >> >> Cheers, >> Bruce Williams. >> >> -- Forwarded message - >> From: Ulrich Pegelow >> Date: Sun., 18 Aug. 2019, 01:31 >> Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 >> To: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> frankly speaking I am still using the 2.6 branch and have no experience >> of any of the 2.7 features at all. I would be happy if someone closer to >> the recent development (Bruce?) could take over the manual. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Ulrich >> >> Am 13.08.19 um 17:42 schrieb Pascal Obry: >> > >> > Hi Matthieu, >> > >> > I fully agree here. I'm not the maintainer of the documentation so I >> > cannot speak for Ulrich. >> > >> > That being said, I can certainly ping developers to start a draft of >> > the code they have introduced in dt 3.0. >> > >> > I have noted that Bruce will be happy to help doing the preparation of >> > the documentation from draft to final version. That's really nice, >> > thanks Bruce for stepping in! >> > >> > So let's try to achieve that, we'll see how it works. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> >> >> ___ >> darktable developer mailing list >> to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> >> >> ___ >> darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Cameras listed in Lens Correction module
Andreas, Tamron E 28-75/2.8 Laowa D-Dreamer 15/2 MF Sony E 70-200/4 Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Bruce Williams Date: Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 10:09 PM Subject: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Cameras listed in Lens Correction module To: darktable Thanks Timur! That did the trick. :) Cheers, Bruce Williams -- audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Timur Irikovich Davletshin Date: Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Cameras listed in Lens Correction module To: Update your lens data via "lensfun-update-data" if it's not there... well, https://github.com/lensfun/lensfun — file bug report. Timur. On Sun, 2019-11-24 at 21:58 +1100, Bruce Williams wrote: > Hi all, > Who do we talk to re: cameras missing from the above-named module? > I shoot with an a7iii, which is now a 12 month old camera at least, > and yet, even in 3.0 rc1, it is not listed in the Lens Correction > module's camera drop-down list. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > > -- > audio2u.com > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > sinelanguagepodcast.com > > e-mail | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Soundcloud | Quora > -- > > > > _ > __ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Cameras listed in Lens Correction module
Thanks Timur! That did the trick. :) Cheers, Bruce Williams -- audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Timur Irikovich Davletshin Date: Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Cameras listed in Lens Correction module To: Update your lens data via "lensfun-update-data" if it's not there... well, https://github.com/lensfun/lensfun — file bug report. Timur. On Sun, 2019-11-24 at 21:58 +1100, Bruce Williams wrote: > Hi all, > Who do we talk to re: cameras missing from the above-named module? > I shoot with an a7iii, which is now a 12 month old camera at least, > and yet, even in 3.0 rc1, it is not listed in the Lens Correction > module's camera drop-down list. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > > -- > audio2u.com > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > sinelanguagepodcast.com > > e-mail | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Soundcloud | Quora > -- > > > > _ > __ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Cameras listed in Lens Correction module
Hi all, Who do we talk to re: cameras missing from the above-named module? I shoot with an a7iii, which is now a 12 month old camera at least, and yet, even in 3.0 rc1, it is not listed in the Lens Correction module's camera drop-down list. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Adobe Bridge Keyword Import Fail
And if that is what the issue is (the extra file extension component in the filename), I am pretty sure I addressed that in my video. A simple rename routine to remove that from your xmp files will sort it out. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Bernhard Date: Mon., 18 Nov. 2019, 18:53 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Adobe Bridge Keyword Import Fail To: Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 17.11.19 um 22:47: > * Ron Wis [11-17-19 15:27]: >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I used Adobe Bridge to enter my keyword tags in the past. Having no luck >> getting keywords into DT 2.6.3 from Adobe Bridge 9.1.0.338. Seems that DT >> ignores the Bridge .xmp file (Bridge, by default generates the .xmp next to >> the raw file in the same folder- so the .xmp is available to DT) . > having no experience with adobe bridge and not much more windows, it is > quite possible that the xmp files do not follow the same standard as > darktable. and you will receive more attention from the developers if you > file and issue on github, >https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues > perhaps a problem of naming conventions? What is a RAW file named? How is the Filename of the corresponding xmp? There are mainly 2 possibilities: weird1234.nef weird1234.xmp or weird1234.nef weird1234.nef.xmp and perhaps others? darktable uses the second version. -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Standardization of the writing of mouse interactions in the user manual
Pierre, First up, my sincerest apologies! I did not realize that that was YOUR sentence. I thought it was something you had found on the page you had linked to. I would not have been so brutal had I understood. Sorry! :) And yes, you are correct. Our previous discussions were more about the ratifying of how to document key combinations, but we had not discussed mouse intersections as well. You said: *IMHO it should be considered to completely eliminate the spelling of mouse* *interactions in combination with keys like Ctrl+move, Ctrl+scoll orCtrl+right click in the manual and to express this in sentences instead* *(see example sentence).* Hmmm, not sure I agree on this point. I think for consistency's sake, the idea of a group of commands looking like this *Ctrl+A* *Shift+L* *Ctrl+(right click)* *Alt+(scroll wheel)* makes more sense than *Ctrl+A* *Shift+L* *press/hold the Ctrl key and right click* press/hold the Alt key and scroll the mouse wheel This is just my view. But I'm happy to go with whatever concensus is agreed upon by the group. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: openhab.doc Date: Fri., 27 Sep. 2019, 03:51 Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Standardization of the writing of mouse interactions in the user manual To: Hello Bruce, thank you for your quick answer and correction of my English sentence. As mentioned in the e-mail, I am not a native speaker. With regard to your question "But I think we've had this discussion already, didn't we?". In my opinion the key combinations like Ctrl+X were defined but not in combination with a mouse interaction. All this spelling right click, right-click and click right can be found in the user manual, this I would like to unify to one spelling. No matter on which spelling we agree, in combination with a key it looks strange. e.g. Ctrl+right click or Ctrl+(right click) Are there examples of how other manuals handle this? IMHO it should be considered to completely eliminate the spelling of mouse interactions in combination with keys like Ctrl+move, Ctrl+scoll or Ctrl+right click in the manual and to express this in sentences instead (see example sentence). Thanks Pierre Metzner Am Donnerstag, 26. September 2019, 09:38:25 CEST schrieb Bruce Williams: > Well, for a start, this > "You can resize the height of attached view or dictionary view by while > selected ctrl key and rotate the mouse wheel." is appalling English! > The words 'by' and 'while' have absolutely no right being next to each > other. > It should read something like "You can resize the height of attached view > or dictionary view by holding down the Ctrl key and rotating the mouse > wheel." > Just my thoughts. > As for the rest of the terminology on the Microsoft page, I have no > issue. But even that page does not specify a use-case for Ctrl+click. > But I think we've had this discussion already, didn't we? > That there should be no spaces (i.e. Ctrl + click would be incorrect), > and that the modifier key (Ctrl) SHOULD be capitalized. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 > > audio2u.com > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > sinelanguagepodcast.com > > e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Standardization of the writing of mouse interactions in the user manual
Well, for a start, this "You can resize the height of attached view or dictionary view by while selected ctrl key and rotate the mouse wheel." is appalling English! The words 'by' and 'while' have absolutely no right being next to each other. It should read something like "You can resize the height of attached view or dictionary view by holding down the Ctrl key and rotating the mouse wheel." Just my thoughts. As for the rest of the terminology on the Microsoft page, I have no issue. But even that page does not specify a use-case for Ctrl+click. But I think we've had this discussion already, didn't we? That there should be no spaces (i.e. Ctrl + click would be incorrect), and that the modifier key (Ctrl) SHOULD be capitalized. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: openhab.doc Date: Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:30 PM Subject: [darktable-dev] Standardization of the writing of mouse interactions in the user manual To: Hello developer and documentation team, Since the keyboard shortcuts are now standardized in the user manual [1], the writing of the mouse interactions should also be standardized. For example, the following spellings can be found in the manual: Ctrl+click, Ctrl+clicking, right click, right-click and click right Ctrl+wheel, Ctrl+scroll The first step is to agree the writing style in the team. Based on the Microsoft recommendations ( https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/style-guide/a-z-word-list-term-collections/term-collections/mouse-mouse-interaction-terms ) the following example sentence can be changed: Original from user manual: You can resize the height of attached view or dictionary view using Ctrl+wheel. Example for a possible change: You can resize the height of attached view or dictionary view by while selected ctrl key and rotate the mouse wheel. Feel free to discuss this topic and make many suggestions! PS: I'm to a native speaker! Pierre Metzner [1] https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2963 [2] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/style-guide/a-z-word-list-term-collections/term-collections/mouse-mouse-interaction-terms ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] GitHub question for translation
I'm new to github, but am helping out with grammatical correctness in the English version. I'm simply using the 'add comment' feature on the 'files' tab. I get an email when there is stuff to check, and I reply when I've made comments. Seems to work ok, as best I can tell. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Date: Wed., 25 Sep. 2019, 17:18 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] GitHub question for translation To: Hello Maurizio, I had the same problems translating the manual into German. I had two contributors for the translation. One of the supporters had experience with github. I had agreed with him the process you have described. He creates pull requests on my darktable fork, which I reviewed and entered into the translation. The second supporter had no experience with git, with him I shared the po file directly via email. I transferred his changes to my po file by comparison. I would also be very interested in a simpler strategy! How do the other translators solve it? How is this handled in other projects? Who has experience? Cheers Pierre > Von: "Maurizio Paglia" > Datum: 24. September 2019 um 15:28 > An: "Darktable Developers List" > Betreff: [darktable-dev] GitHub question for translation > > Hi all, > do we have a standard method for a collaborative translation? > > I can explain better. > This year the Italian translators have one volunteer more. > I desire to collect his translated strings in order to check and validate them before pushing on dt master branch. > For this reason I asked him to send pull requests to my fork so I can validate them, nerge them and push to dt master branch. > > It sounds a little bit complicated... > Can you advise if we have a more linear method? > > Thanks, > Maurizio > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Fwd: documenting dt 3.0
Reviews done. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Pascal Obry Date: Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 2:12 AM Subject: Re: documenting dt 3.0 To: Isabelle Hurbain-Palatin Cc: Bruce Williams Hello! A very simple one to review: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/2966 Thanks! -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Where to report bugs / changes for dt 3.0 user manual
I agree. No spaces, but definitely capitalised. Just my 2 cents Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: jys Date: Fri., 20 Sep. 2019, 07:03 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Where to report bugs / changes for dt 3.0 user manual To: On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, at 13:42, openhab.doc wrote: > I prefer capital letters as well as spaces and a plus for separation to > special characters. > > > Ctrl-x will change to Ctrl + x and h will change to H. In most documentation I've seen there are no spaces in the sequence. For whatever it's worth, the MS style guide agrees: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/style-guide/a-z-word-list-term-collections/term-collections/keys-keyboard-shortcuts Might be a good general reference, just to keep some consistency. -- jys ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Fwd: documenting dt 3.0
Just looking at the github page now. I think that all makes sense. I'll probably do something stupid on my first go. Please point me in the right direction if I do so! :) Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Isabelle Hurbain-Palatin Date: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 10:34 PM Subject: Re: documenting dt 3.0 To: Pascal Obry Cc: AlicVB , Bruce Williams Yup, works for me :) Best, Isabelle On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 7:54 AM Pascal Obry wrote: > > Hello Aldric, > > For small editing / modifications of current documentation I think a > link to GitHub changes makes more sense indeed. > > So this works for me. Let's see what Isabelle and Bruce think about > this. > > Thanks for starting the doc, I should do the same soon. > > -- > Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) > > The best way to travel is by means of imagination > > http://www.obry.net > > gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B > > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Fwd: documenting dt 3.0
It's father's day here in Australia. Will look at this tomorrow. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Pascal Obry Date: Sun., 1 Sep. 2019, 15:54 Subject: Re: documenting dt 3.0 To: AlicVB , , Hello Aldric, For small editing / modifications of current documentation I think a link to GitHub changes makes more sense indeed. So this works for me. Let's see what Isabelle and Bruce think about this. Thanks for starting the doc, I should do the same soon. -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0
Aurélien Pierre, Videos would be fine by me. Or draft written versions. Whatever works. Happy to liaise with you directly off-list, if need be? Cheers, Bruce. -- Forwarded message - From: Aurélien Pierre Date: Sun., 18 Aug. 2019, 14:29 Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 To: Bruce Williams , darktable < darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org> Hi, for last 2.6 version, it took me a full-time week to write the doc for 3 modules, trying to accurately describe how they worked in a vulgarized way, in my 3rd language. Instead, will it be helpful if I recorded videos showing what's new and how it works (possibly in a disorganized/non-linear order), and let you put the information in shape for a documentation ? Not that I want to give you the bad job, but I might be more useful on the debugging team, as the release approaches. I'm still happy to do proof-reading. Cheers, Aurélien. Le 18/08/2019 à 06:34, Bruce Williams a écrit : Thanks, I'll check it out! Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Ariel Kanterewicz Date: Sun., 18 Aug. 2019, 09:06 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 To: darktable @Bruce: if you're willing to pay for it, there's a *really* nice git course on pluralsight, it's the best intro to the topic I've found yet: https://app.pluralsight.com/library/courses/how-git-works/ I'm excited to see the feature list in the new release, especially the Culling mode :-D On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 at 22:38, Bruce Williams wrote: > I will certainly do what I can. > As yet, I have not delved into the world of github, pull requests, merges, > and so forth. > Nor compiling! > But when I get home from holiday (another 8 days), that is on my list of > things to get up to speed on. > > Cheers, > Bruce Williams. > > -- Forwarded message - > From: Ulrich Pegelow > Date: Sun., 18 Aug. 2019, 01:31 > Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 > To: > > > Hi, > > frankly speaking I am still using the 2.6 branch and have no experience > of any of the 2.7 features at all. I would be happy if someone closer to > the recent development (Bruce?) could take over the manual. > > Best wishes > > Ulrich > > Am 13.08.19 um 17:42 schrieb Pascal Obry: > > > > Hi Matthieu, > > > > I fully agree here. I'm not the maintainer of the documentation so I > > cannot speak for Ulrich. > > > > That being said, I can certainly ping developers to start a draft of > > the code they have introduced in dt 3.0. > > > > I have noted that Bruce will be happy to help doing the preparation of > > the documentation from draft to final version. That's really nice, > > thanks Bruce for stepping in! > > > > So let's try to achieve that, we'll see how it works. > > > > Cheers, > > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > -- Ariel Kanterewicz http://aknt.com.ar ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0
I will certainly do what I can. As yet, I have not delved into the world of github, pull requests, merges, and so forth. Nor compiling! But when I get home from holiday (another 8 days), that is on my list of things to get up to speed on. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Ulrich Pegelow Date: Sun., 18 Aug. 2019, 01:31 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 To: Hi, frankly speaking I am still using the 2.6 branch and have no experience of any of the 2.7 features at all. I would be happy if someone closer to the recent development (Bruce?) could take over the manual. Best wishes Ulrich Am 13.08.19 um 17:42 schrieb Pascal Obry: > > Hi Matthieu, > > I fully agree here. I'm not the maintainer of the documentation so I > cannot speak for Ulrich. > > That being said, I can certainly ping developers to start a draft of > the code they have introduced in dt 3.0. > > I have noted that Bruce will be happy to help doing the preparation of > the documentation from draft to final version. That's really nice, > thanks Bruce for stepping in! > > So let's try to achieve that, we'll see how it works. > > Cheers, > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0
Apologies for the misspelling, Mattieu. -- Forwarded message - From: Bruce Williams Date: Tue., 13 Aug. 2019, 15:23 Subject: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 To: darktable I wholeheartedly agree with Matthew on the documentation front. Now, I'll confess, I couldn't write a line of code if my life depended on it! Nor could I reverse-engineer anything. But, writing copy has been part of my career (as a radio promo producer) for the last 30+ years. If the guys writing the new features are prepared to write draft notes on how a certain new feature works, I would be happy to help with the copy editing for the 3.0 documentation. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Matthieu Moy Date: Tue., 13 Aug. 2019, 14:34 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 To: Pascal Obry Cc: darktable - Original Message - > From: "Pascal Obry" > Also, to avoid the hard work at the end of year (like in 2018) I'd like > to have a feature freeze earlier. I support this. We had a lot of last-minutes fixes last years, and given the amount of changes, we really need a long testing period this year. > My current plan is: > - *feature* freeze end of September > > - *strings* freeze end of October > > - *RC0* end of October > > - *RC1* end of November I'd like to raise another point: the manual. The dt tradition is to make the release, and complete the manual afterwards. This has disadvantages for several kinds of people: 1. Users are somehow frustrated to get a nice release without the full documentation. I could live with this, but there's also: 2. People writing articles about the release (e.g. myself) have a hard time reverse-engineering the changes. Last year's release notes were better than the previous ones for me, but still much more work to understand than a proper user-manual. 3. Testers cannot really test without the manual. This is related to point 2: last year I reported a lot of bugs found while trying to understand how new features worked, but without the documentation one doesn't know what to test, nor what's the expected behavior. 4. People proof-reading the documentation, which can be the same as 2. For example, the manual doesn't seem to document the hierarchical tags shortcuts (control/shift double-click) in the collect module while they are documented in my article (https://www.darktable.org/2018/12/darktable-26/). I would happily report bugs for missing documentation, but when I do so I usually get "please be patient, we'll write the doc later" as an answer, so I don't report these bugs. To me, the ideal flow is to write at least a draft of the doc in the same PR as the code (which does help a lot with points 3. and 4. since testing is also important before merging), but having the manual ready before the release (e.g. not too long after the feature freeze or string freeze in your list above) would greatly help. > Thanks to all people involved in this release, it is amassing to see > the developer community to grow! Indeed, last year was awesome, this year seems even awesomer (I know, the word doesn't exist, but if it did it would apply here) ;-). Cheers, -- Matthieu Moy https://matthieu-moy.fr/ ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0
I wholeheartedly agree with Matthew on the documentation front. Now, I'll confess, I couldn't write a line of code if my life depended on it! Nor could I reverse-engineer anything. But, writing copy has been part of my career (as a radio promo producer) for the last 30+ years. If the guys writing the new features are prepared to write draft notes on how a certain new feature works, I would be happy to help with the copy editing for the 3.0 documentation. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Matthieu Moy Date: Tue., 13 Aug. 2019, 14:34 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Feature freeze for 3.0 To: Pascal Obry Cc: darktable - Original Message - > From: "Pascal Obry" > Also, to avoid the hard work at the end of year (like in 2018) I'd like > to have a feature freeze earlier. I support this. We had a lot of last-minutes fixes last years, and given the amount of changes, we really need a long testing period this year. > My current plan is: > - *feature* freeze end of September > > - *strings* freeze end of October > > - *RC0* end of October > > - *RC1* end of November I'd like to raise another point: the manual. The dt tradition is to make the release, and complete the manual afterwards. This has disadvantages for several kinds of people: 1. Users are somehow frustrated to get a nice release without the full documentation. I could live with this, but there's also: 2. People writing articles about the release (e.g. myself) have a hard time reverse-engineering the changes. Last year's release notes were better than the previous ones for me, but still much more work to understand than a proper user-manual. 3. Testers cannot really test without the manual. This is related to point 2: last year I reported a lot of bugs found while trying to understand how new features worked, but without the documentation one doesn't know what to test, nor what's the expected behavior. 4. People proof-reading the documentation, which can be the same as 2. For example, the manual doesn't seem to document the hierarchical tags shortcuts (control/shift double-click) in the collect module while they are documented in my article (https://www.darktable.org/2018/12/darktable-26/). I would happily report bugs for missing documentation, but when I do so I usually get "please be patient, we'll write the doc later" as an answer, so I don't report these bugs. To me, the ideal flow is to write at least a draft of the doc in the same PR as the code (which does help a lot with points 3. and 4. since testing is also important before merging), but having the manual ready before the release (e.g. not too long after the feature freeze or string freeze in your list above) would greatly help. > Thanks to all people involved in this release, it is amassing to see > the developer community to grow! Indeed, last year was awesome, this year seems even awesomer (I know, the word doesn't exist, but if it did it would apply here) ;-). Cheers, -- Matthieu Moy https://matthieu-moy.fr/ ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Naming Module Instances
But Pascal, when you rename a module instance in 2.6.2, you can't remove the original name of the module. You can only append something meaningful to the existing module name. I agree with the original request. The ability to replace the module's original name would be much more useful (and screen-real-estate friendly). Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Pascal Obry Date: Sun., 26 May 2019, 02:14 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Naming Module Instances To: Julian Rickards , < darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org> Hello Julian, > I'm using 2.4.4 so take this with a grain of salt. Yes, please update to 2.6.2... > I appreciate that when a new instance of a module has been created, > that it be named "module #" but I'd like to be able to name the instance ... which makes this possible. Best, -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Watermark oddity
Nope, definitely laid out centred. Like I said... weird! Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Patrick Shanahan Date: Fri, May 10, 2019 at 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Watermark oddity To: darktable * Bruce Williams [05-10-19 03:23]: > Hi guys, > I know posting images to the mailing list is frowned upon, so I've thrown > this screenshot up in a temp directory on my site. > And for some reason, I cannot log into redmine. I reset my password, and go > to log in with the new password, and it tells me my password is wrong, even > though I just changed it 2 seconds ago! > Anyway, the image is here > www.brucewilliamsphotography.com/temp/watermark.png > I'm not sure when this happened, but if you have a look at that screenshot, > you can see that even though... > * the watermark is set to 'centre' alignment, and > * x offset is set to 0.0 > the watermark is not centred over the image. > I even had to reduce the scale to ensure it was not hanging off the right > hand side of the image. > Now, don't worry, I would never watermark an image like this. I was simply > doing some prep for a forthcoming video. > But something has clearly happened since 2.4, when this behaviour was NOT > evident. Back then, the watermark would have been correctly centred. > And just for clarity, this is using an .svg graphic I'd created in inkscape. > My system is linux mint 19.2 > darktable version 2.6.2 is it possible the watermark file itself is not cropped so the borders are not the same on both sides of the text? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Watermark oddity
Hi guys, I know posting images to the mailing list is frowned upon, so I've thrown this screenshot up in a temp directory on my site. And for some reason, I cannot log into redmine. I reset my password, and go to log in with the new password, and it tells me my password is wrong, even though I just changed it 2 seconds ago! Anyway, the image is here www.brucewilliamsphotography.com/temp/watermark.png I'm not sure when this happened, but if you have a look at that screenshot, you can see that even though... * the watermark is set to 'centre' alignment, and * x offset is set to 0.0 the watermark is not centred over the image. I even had to reduce the scale to ensure it was not hanging off the right hand side of the image. Now, don't worry, I would never watermark an image like this. I was simply doing some prep for a forthcoming video. But something has clearly happened since 2.4, when this behaviour was NOT evident. Back then, the watermark would have been correctly centred. And just for clarity, this is using an .svg graphic I'd created in inkscape. My system is linux mint 19.2 darktable version 2.6.2 Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] darktable font
Oh. OK. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Patrick Shanahan Date: Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] darktable font To: darktable * Bruce Williams [01-01-70 12:34]: > Hi devs, > Does anyone know what this font is called? And where I might get find a > copy of the .ttf or .otf file? > Wouldn't mind using it for my youtube channel, just to keep the brand > consistent. > Thanks in advance. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 > > audio2u.com > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > sinelanguagepodcast.com > > e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > -- > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org easiest would probably be to ask on #darktable irc freenode. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] darktable font
Hi devs, Does anyone know what this font is called? And where I might get find a copy of the .ttf or .otf file? Wouldn't mind using it for my youtube channel, just to keep the brand consistent. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] darktable 2.6.1 released
Thanks (to those responsible) for the updated manual! However, I do notice that the further you go through the manual, the more out of whack the page numbers are in relation to the table of contents. For example, the TOC says that section 9 starts on page 193, when it actual fact, it starts on page 201. Section 10 starts on page 213, not 205 as indicated by the TOC. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Richard Hobday Date: Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 2:04 AM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] darktable 2.6.1 released To: Many thanks Pascal. Once again a superb piece of work! R. On 06/03/2019 08:43, Pascal Obry wrote: > > The darktable 2.6.1 release is out. > > The full description and release notes can be found here: > > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-2.6.1 > > For now only the sources are available. The binary versions for MacOS > and Windows will be available in the coming days. > > For GNU/Linux just grab the release from your favorite distrib. > > We are also happy to announce that the documentation for 2.6 series are > now complete. The English and Italian PDF manuals can be downloaded > following the link above. The French manual will follow later today or > tomorrow. The HTML online manuals will follow shortly. > > Best wishes, > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Pushing ISO (ISO invarience)
Same here. I did my own test, but going from 6400 ISO down to 200 ISO. I also used 2 exposure modules (1 @ +3, and 1 @ +2) and found the images to be almost indistinguishable from each other. If anything, the noise distribution was subtly different in it's randomisation. As for white balance differences, that should not be an issue if you're shooting RAW. A RAW file is not, after all, an "image". It's simply data. That's why white balance can be selected after the fact. And no, I don't believe there to be any issue with darktable either. Just noobie error on the part of f-stoppers. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Bryan Leaman Date: Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Pushing ISO (ISO invarience) To: I saw that video and have no idea what F-Stoppers may have done wrong in their test, but I expect unfamiliarity with the software may be a factor. I just tried to replicate the essense of the test using my Nikon D3200, 50mm @ F5. Shot properly exposed at 3200 on a tripod, then at 100. After boosting the exposure 5 stops (1 exposure instance) and selecting the same white balance, the overall luminosity looks equivalent to me. I also tried boosting using 2 instances, 1 at +3ev and another at +2ev. I noticed that duplicating the instance and changing the exposure still leaves the duplicate turned off, so maybe that's what happened. The camera's white balance selection was very different between the two and even after setting the boosted image's setting it still looks a little yellow to me. Also, some areas that were darker to begin with (dark wood in shadow) did not appear as bright after boosting 5ev. The long & short of it is I don't think there's any issue with Darktable. --Bryan On 3/3/19 2:31 AM, Wiktor Nowak wrote: > Normally You use one exposure module and push it 3EV max. They > duplicated it and pusched it 1 stop more so maybe here something tricky > happens. I did a test witch 5EV underexposed image on 80D and I didn't > noticed any exposure difference when I pushed it 3EV plus 2EV in > darktable. It could be a difference in darktable overall in a shape of > base curve for this Nikon or anything else. > > Actually I don't think it's a problem at all. Do You think it is? > > W dniu 02.03.2019 o 11:22, Andreas Schneider pisze: >> Hi, >> >> there a video where they did take and underexposed image and then pushed the >> exposure 4 EVs. darktable produced a darker image than the other raw >> developers. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAb85TukSuc >> >> >> ___ >> darktable developer mailing list >> to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Pushing ISO (ISO invarience)
Yeah, but the numb nuts said "darktable could only give +3 stops of exposure". Clearly, they did not know about the ability to instigate a second instead of a module. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Andreas Schneider Date: Sat., 2 Mar. 2019, 21:23 Subject: [darktable-dev] Pushing ISO (ISO invarience) To: darktable Hi, there a video where they did take and underexposed image and then pushed the exposure 4 EVs. darktable produced a darker image than the other raw developers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAb85TukSuc ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Links on darktable.org
Ahhh, ok! Thanks for that. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Bernhard Date: Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Links on darktable.org To: it is, but the link was broken into two lines. You have to add the "resources.md" in the second line. Let's see if it works like this: https://github.com/mepi0011/dtorg/blob/master/content/pages/resources/resources.md -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de Bruce Williams schrieb am 18.02.19 um 20:26: Pierre, Thanks, but when I followed that link, I don't know what I was looking at, but it certainly wasn't a preview of the darktable site! Thanks anyway. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: openhab.doc Date: Tue., 19 Feb. 2019, 03:43 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Links on darktable.org To: Hey Bruce, as written by Andreas I adapted the source code of the homepage. The following link shows a preview of the website: https://github.com/mepi0011/dtorg/blob/master/content/pages/resources/ resources.md If the changes are ok for you I will create the pull request. Cheers, Pierre Metzner Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2019, 22:22:25 CET schrieb Bruce Williams: > Hey guys, > Just wondering what the etiquette/procedure is for getting a link added > to the resources page of darktable.org? > The link to my darktable playlist (currently at 28 episodes, and still > growing) is here: > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlYWvzmJQTrRq7JrYdD7k3-8-v-uHnhK_ > I had someone email and ask why my videos weren't linked from there. I > said I didn't know. > Is it possible to add that link, by any chance? > Thanks in advance! > Cheers, > Bruce Williams. > > _ > __ darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Fwd: [darktable-dev] Links on darktable.org
Awesome, thanks! Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 9:14 AM Pascal Obry wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > > Thanks, but when I followed that link, I don't know what I was looking > at, but it certainly wasn't a preview of the darktable site! > > PR pushed for this: > > https://github.com/darktable-org/dtorg/pull/43 > > Should be available soon. > > Cheers, > > -- > Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) > > The best way to travel is by means of imagination > > http://www.obry.net > > gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B > > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Links on darktable.org
Pierre, Thanks, but when I followed that link, I don't know what I was looking at, but it certainly wasn't a preview of the darktable site! Thanks anyway. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: openhab.doc Date: Tue., 19 Feb. 2019, 03:43 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Links on darktable.org To: Hey Bruce, as written by Andreas I adapted the source code of the homepage. The following link shows a preview of the website: https://github.com/mepi0011/dtorg/blob/master/content/pages/resources/ resources.md If the changes are ok for you I will create the pull request. Cheers, Pierre Metzner Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2019, 22:22:25 CET schrieb Bruce Williams: > Hey guys, > Just wondering what the etiquette/procedure is for getting a link added > to the resources page of darktable.org? > The link to my darktable playlist (currently at 28 episodes, and still > growing) is here: > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlYWvzmJQTrRq7JrYdD7k3-8-v-uHnhK_ > I had someone email and ask why my videos weren't linked from there. I > said I didn't know. > Is it possible to add that link, by any chance? > Thanks in advance! > Cheers, > Bruce Williams. > > _ > __ darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Crop tool is awkward for my use case
Why not leave the current situation as it is, but add a CTRL key modifier to allow the alternate behaviour? Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: Jason Polak Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Crop tool is awkward for my use case To: For some people that might be true, but the current system also has an advantage: if the shot is already pretty good but just needs a slight cropping, then only a little dragging in one corner may be required, without much dragging. Then the click-in-square method for moving the crop is actually useful. I would not want to have to drag a rectangle for every little crop adjustment. On 17/2/19 10:54 pm, August Schwerdfeger wrote: > How is this a JPEG vs. RAW issue? I have done a great deal of cropping > in Darktable (on both JPEGs and RAWs) and I think that adding the > proposed single-drag interaction would speed up cropping a great deal > over the current process, no matter the format of the image being edited. > > -- > August Schwerdfeger > aug...@schwerdfeger.name > > > On 2/17/19 8:01 PM, David Vincent-Jones wrote: >> >> Although darktable handles JPG images very well, I think that its >> primary market was targeted towards users who shoot RAW with an >> expectation of doing more complex processing on individual frames. >> Maybe darktable is simply the wrong software for your high production >> needs. >> >> On 2019-02-17 4:08 p.m., Robert Krawitz wrote: >>> I find the crop tool to be unwieldly for my common use case, namely >>> processing a large number of photographs from shooting sports. >>> >>> I shoot a lot of basketball and (American) football games for my alma >>> mater. My workflow is to import the typically ~2000 photos into >>> KPhotoAlbum, review them and select the ones I want (typically 300 or >>> so), and create a directory with symlinks to the selected files. >>> These are essentially all JPEG; RAW would simply consume too much >>> space and slow the camera (Canon 7DmkII) too much. >>> >>> The postprocessing I do is limited to cropping and rotating, if my >>> camera was not level (typically it isn't perfectly level, as I'm >>> shooting handheld bursts). I gave up on noise reduction last year; >>> the 7DmkII is good enough even at ISO 6400, and additional NR really >>> slows things down. >>> >>> The difficulty is that to crop the frame (always freehand) requires >>> the following motions: >>> >>> 1) Position the mouse near one corner of the image (say, top left), >>>which may be nowhere near where I want to crop. >>> >>> 2) Click and move the top and left edges (via the top left corner) to >>>the desired spot. >>> >>> 3) Move the mouse to the bottom right of the image, which again might >>>not be near where I want to crop. >>> >>> 4) Click and move the bottom and right edges to the desired spot. >>> >>> With RawTherapee I simply place the mouse at the desired top left >>> spot, click and drag it to the bottom right, and I'm done. The extra >>> motions with Darktable, especially since they have to start far from >>> what may be my point of interest, are awkward and cost maybe 5 seconds >>> per image. With 300 images, that's an extra 25 minutes; this past >>> Wednesday I shot two games that totaled 700 images, so the extra time >>> would have been an hour. >>> >>> I'd prefer to use Darktable for this purpose, since it's otherwise a >>> lot faster. RawTherapee takes maybe 3 seconds or so to export an >>> image; Darktable is more like 1 second, not to mention that the rotate >>> function is easier in Darktable (right mouse drag). But the current >>> behavior of the cropping tool is simply too awkward (I tried it for >>> one set and it really did take a lot more time). >>> >>> I tried looking at the code (in src/iop/clipping.c), but it wasn't >>> obvious to me what would need to change to do this. I understand that >>> dragging inside the frame is used to move the crop box, but that's >>> rarely some
[darktable-dev] Links on darktable.org
Hey guys, Just wondering what the etiquette/procedure is for getting a link added to the resources page of darktable.org? The link to my darktable playlist (currently at 28 episodes, and still growing) is here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlYWvzmJQTrRq7JrYdD7k3-8-v-uHnhK_ I had someone email and ask why my videos weren't linked from there. I said I didn't know. Is it possible to add that link, by any chance? Thanks in advance! Cheers, Bruce Williams. ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] X-trans sensor and demosaic
Great. Thanks David. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- -- Forwarded message - From: David Vincent-Jones Date: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] X-trans sensor and demosaic To: The Markesteijn process was adapted to darktable specifically for the X-trans sensor some years ago and to my knowledge this procedure has been fully successful. I am not sure what the filmic module has to do with the demosaic process. David On 2019-01-26 12:02 p.m., Bruce Williams wrote: > Hi all, > I had a viewer write to me about the filmic module and which demosaic > algorithm to use. > Here's an excerpt from his email... > > "But now I use only Fuji cameras, and for the RAW files (.RAF) from > Fuji X-trans sensors, the Demosaic module has only two options: > 'method' and 'colour smoothing'. There's no 'match greens'. And the > 'method' pulldown does not have AMaZE. Rather, it has VNG, Markesteijn > 1-pass (the default), Markesteijn 3-pass, passthrough (monochrome), > and frequency domain chroma. This is the case in DT on both MacOS and > Debian." > > He goes on to suggest that perhaps darktable reads the metadata from > the raw file and only presents appropriate demosaic algorithms for > that sensor type. > Is that the case? > And is there a recommended demosaic algorithm for the x-trans sensor? > Cheers, > Bruce Williams. > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] X-trans sensor and demosaic
Hi all, I had a viewer write to me about the filmic module and which demosaic algorithm to use. Here's an excerpt from his email... "But now I use only Fuji cameras, and for the RAW files (.RAF) from Fuji X-trans sensors, the Demosaic module has only two options: 'method' and 'colour smoothing'. There's no 'match greens'. And the 'method' pulldown does not have AMaZE. Rather, it has VNG, Markesteijn 1-pass (the default), Markesteijn 3-pass, passthrough (monochrome), and frequency domain chroma. This is the case in DT on both MacOS and Debian." He goes on to suggest that perhaps darktable reads the metadata from the raw file and only presents appropriate demosaic algorithms for that sensor type. Is that the case? And is there a recommended demosaic algorithm for the x-trans sensor? Cheers, Bruce Williams. ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Revised collections module
That's a bit beyond my pay grade, at this point in time! I'll live with it as is. But thank you for the suggestion. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Rikard Öxler Date: Sun., 30 Dec. 2018, 05:18 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Revised collections module To: darktable If you can compile darktable yourself, you can adjust the line 937 in src/libs/collect.c. collate_key = tag_collate_key(name_folded); And replace "name_folded" with "name". I can create a pull request, but I don't know why the name is converted to be case independent, in the first place. Am 29.12.2018 um 12:51 schrieb Bruce Williams : Right. So now I've dug my hole, how do I get out of it? :) Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:37 PM Rikard Öxler wrote: > My guess is that the sorting of tags is case-insensitive while grouping > them is not. So every time the case changes a new group will be created. > > Rikard > > Am 29.12.2018 um 00:17 schrieb Bruce Williams : > > Hey guys, > Just back from holidays, and happy to see 2.6 sitting under my Christmas > tree! Woot! > Thanks for all of your collective hard work! Beers for all! > A quick question though... > I love that the Collections module now allows you to view tags in a > hierarchical tree, but am wondering why some tags are duplicated over and > over again. See the attached screen cap. > I use the tag "people" prior to anyone's name, just so that all names > appear under one branch of the tree. > And while I will confess that there was a time when I had "people" > capitalised, I would have expected two entries at most... one for "people" > and one for "People". > But why are there 30 or 40 of them? > I have a similar case for the word "event". I put things like birthday > parties, Christmas day, weddings, and the like, all under a parent keyword > of 'event'. And my tag tree has the same repetition for that word also. > If there's a way for me to easily clean this up, I'd love to hear about it! > Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 > > audio2u.com > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > sinelanguagepodcast.com > > e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > -- > > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > = > > > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Revised collections module
Right. So now I've dug my hole, how do I get out of it? :) Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:37 PM Rikard Öxler wrote: > My guess is that the sorting of tags is case-insensitive while grouping > them is not. So every time the case changes a new group will be created. > > Rikard > > Am 29.12.2018 um 00:17 schrieb Bruce Williams : > > Hey guys, > Just back from holidays, and happy to see 2.6 sitting under my Christmas > tree! Woot! > Thanks for all of your collective hard work! Beers for all! > A quick question though... > I love that the Collections module now allows you to view tags in a > hierarchical tree, but am wondering why some tags are duplicated over and > over again. See the attached screen cap. > I use the tag "people" prior to anyone's name, just so that all names > appear under one branch of the tree. > And while I will confess that there was a time when I had "people" > capitalised, I would have expected two entries at most... one for "people" > and one for "People". > But why are there 30 or 40 of them? > I have a similar case for the word "event". I put things like birthday > parties, Christmas day, weddings, and the like, all under a parent keyword > of 'event'. And my tag tree has the same repetition for that word also. > If there's a way for me to easily clean this up, I'd love to hear about it! > Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 > > audio2u.com > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > sinelanguagepodcast.com > > e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > -- > > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > = > > > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Revised collections module
Hey guys, Just back from holidays, and happy to see 2.6 sitting under my Christmas tree! Woot! Thanks for all of your collective hard work! Beers for all! A quick question though... I love that the Collections module now allows you to view tags in a hierarchical tree, but am wondering why some tags are duplicated over and over again. See the attached screen cap. I use the tag "people" prior to anyone's name, just so that all names appear under one branch of the tree. And while I will confess that there was a time when I had "people" capitalised, I would have expected two entries at most... one for "people" and one for "People". But why are there 30 or 40 of them? I have a similar case for the word "event". I put things like birthday parties, Christmas day, weddings, and the like, all under a parent keyword of 'event'. And my tag tree has the same repetition for that word also. If there's a way for me to easily clean this up, I'd love to hear about it! Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Monochrome processing
Hi brains trust! Someone on the darktable unofficial group on Facebook asked if I had or would consider doing a video on monochrome processing methodologies in darktable. And while I'm happy to (and regularly do) read the manual, I thought I'd throw it out to you guys to ask... What is YOUR favorite process? Obviously there is the low hanging fruit of the monochrome module, or the contrast brightness and saturation module... But I'm sure there are other options. Love to hear your ideas! Thanks in advance. Cheers, Bruce Williams. ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] feature freeze
Can you force a reload via the "selected images" module? I'm not at my machine right now, but from memory, there's a button that says "load side car file" or something similar. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: thokster Date: Fri., 16 Nov. 2018, 06:49 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] feature freeze To: Am 15.11.18 um 20:42 schrieb Andreas Schneider: > On Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:36:02 CET Pascal Obry wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> The feature freeze is effective since yesterday Nov 14th. So no more >> new feature can be integrated into darktable at this stage. >> >> It is a good time to do some testing and report the issues you >> encounter. That is, we are entering a bug squash period :) > I have an image which just lost all its blend modes and drawn and paramatric > masks. One? Hundreds! ;-) > > However if I open the XMP file I can see the mask stuff still in there. > Same here ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Error in user manual
Not sure who to address here, but came across this. In section 3.4.1.7, the screenshot shows a value called "Precedence", but the related text block is titled "Preference". Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Fwd: [darktable-dev] Updating the manual
Great explanation Ulrich! Thanks for that. Cheers, Bruce Williams. -- Forwarded message - From: Ulrich Pegelow Date: Thu., 15 Nov. 2018, 05:18 Subject: Re: [darktable-dev] Updating the manual To: Hi Bruce, you can consider the strength of the module's effect to be controlled by two gradients or ramps. One for the highlights and one for the shadows. The shadows gradient has its maximum value at L=0 and linearly goes down in the direction of the highlights. For the highlights gradient it's vice versa. The compression slider controls the steepness of the two gradients. With the default setting 50% both gradients reach a value of zero (= no effect) at L=50 - which means that only an ideal midtone is not affected by neither shadows nor highlights. At a compression value of 100% the gradients are practically vertical - only pure black and pure white are affected - a corner case which has virtually no effect on the image. At a compression value of 0% both gradients extend to the respective opposite side. The shadows adjustment strongly affect shadows, moderately affects midtones and minimally affects highlights. Vice versa for the highlights adjustment. Best wishes Ulrich Am 14.11.18 um 13:15 schrieb Bruce Williams: > Hi all, > Andreas suggested I should seek clarification on the compression slider, > specifically in the "shadows and highlights" module. > The manual doesn't explicitly state what ranges of shadow and highlight > values are affected for given compression levels. > In my latest video, I suggested that at 0, the shadows control would > control all dark tones up to the mid point, and the highlights slider > would control all tones from the mid-point up to the brightest/whitest > pixel. > Does a compression setting of 50 mean the shadows slider covers the left > 25% of the histogram, and the highlights slider controls the right 25% > of the histogram? > Cheers, > Bruce Williams ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Updating the manual
Hi all, Andreas suggested I should seek clarification on the compression slider, specifically in the "shadows and highlights" module. The manual doesn't explicitly state what ranges of shadow and highlight values are affected for given compression levels. In my latest video, I suggested that at 0, the shadows control would control all dark tones up to the mid point, and the highlights slider would control all tones from the mid-point up to the brightest/whitest pixel. Does a compression setting of 50 mean the shadows slider covers the left 25% of the histogram, and the highlights slider controls the right 25% of the histogram? Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Collect images module
Hey guys, I had a viewer ask me about the use of the semicolon when it comes to using the [Date] modifier in the Collect Images module. Section 2.3.2.1 of the manual contains the following paragraph: "Attributes with numerical values as well as date and time attributes can be used in combi- nation with comparative and range operators. Write <, <=, >, >=, <>, and = to select images with attributes less, less or equal, greater, greater or equal, not equal, or equal to the a given value, respectively. An expression in the form [from;to] selects a range of values." Which makes no reference to the semicolon as a modifier, at all. Yet, when you set the drop down menu to [Date], and mouse over the text field, the tooltip which pops up shows the semicolon as another modifier. Is this some left over code that needs to be removed? Or is there another use case here which is not documented in the manual? Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Darkroom UI refactoring
I'm with Jørn! Great ideas, all. Certainly feeling the pain of modules changing size and having to constantly scroll up and down. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 7:07 PM Jørn Villesen Christensen < darktable-...@mettle.dk> wrote: > Hi, > > > An alternative suggestion (as I have also found the module list a bit... > difficult to work with sometimes :-D ). I have often wished for a search > box, so here is an idea; not thought through, but meant as inspiration: > > How about one big list of modules, but with collapsible sections (and > thus not have the top buttons for bases, tones, colours, etc.). > > At the top of the list, there would be a search bar that would let you > easily filter on >- name of module >- tags associated (from the developers) with the module, such as > bases, colours, enhancements... > > In the list, there would be two active foldable sections: >- Enabled modules. >- All modules. > > You can right click on the list to >- Create a new (nameable) section. >- Order the sections (maybe All Modules should stay at the bottom, > Enabled module should stay at top). >- Add / Remove modules to/from the custom sections. >- Add a colour marker to the custom sections. When the modules are > displayed in the Enabled Modules list, they would be colour coded with > that colour, or have a colour marker (dot). > > Perhaps the order of the modules (in the All Modules and Enabled Modules > sections) could be selectable to >- Sorted alphabetically >- Sorted according to path in the pipeline. > > > In addition to that, I do not quite like way that modules unfolds under > it's name in the list. I think I would prefer a list of modules (as I > described above :) ) and clicking on each module, would open it up in a > separate Module Settings area. > > Reason: Sometimes when modules have (parametric and drawn) masks they > become tall and thus, when open, requires me to scroll excessively (?) > when going up/down the list, searching for something. When clicking on > another module (thus triggering closing and opening of modules) the > change in horizontal position of the list have sometimes also annoyed > me. Having the list and the module settings separate, keeps the list > more steady, compact, and thus I believe I can maintain a better overview. > > BR > Jørn > > > > > On 08/10/18 06:59, Dominik Markiewicz wrote: > > Hi, > > I've also my workflow, but it's a bit different then yours (crop is one > > of basic corrections for me, I almost never do noise removal as a one of > > first steps). I'm not a big fan of arbitrary change here. Agree with > > Jochen that custom tabs could be quite nice. > > > > To achieve something similar I just enable modules, add them as > > `favorite` and save this as a preset. Then add shortcuts for each of > > presets and I can easily switch between my groups of modules. > > > > Regards, > > Dominik > > > > pon., 8 paź 2018 o 06:42 Jochen Keil > <mailto:jochen.k...@gmail.com>> napisał(a): > > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 5:39 AM Aurélien Pierre > > mailto:rese...@aurelienpierre.com>> > wrote: > > > > > > The real question here is : could you get past the change and > > benefit from it ? > > > > > > I'm biased here, since I developed repetitive strain injury in > > the wrist at the early age of 23. So I'm basically trying to improve > > the efficiency of the workflow by decreasing as much as possible the > > number of user interactions on each picture, especially the mouse > > interactions. > > > > > > If it's only for cropping, it can be fixed. At the end, I think > > it really depends on how many hours you spend each week on > > darktable. Because editing a whole wedding is definitely not the > > same as editing a bunch of holidays pictures, so I guess every user > > will have a different sensibility to workflow matters and the > > occasionnal users will mostly care about the overhead of the > > refactoring (having to learn things again) wh
Re: [darktable-dev] GMIC module
OK, I'll bite. What's a GMIC filter when it's at home? :) Cheers, Bruce Williams -- audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> -- On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:50 PM Heiko Bauke wrote: > Hi, > > in the last few weeks I integrated a few GMIC filters into darktable to > play with. > > Integrating GMIC into darktabe was an idea that I had in mind for quite > some time. However, I was not sure if it would be worth the effort to > integrate GMIC filters into darktable. There is a quite nice GMIC > plugin for GIMP and everything that one might be able to do in darktable > with an integrated GMIC module could be realized with darktable & gimp, > too. After editing several images with darktable with integrated GMIC > module, however, I realized that applying GMIC filters within > darktable's non-destructive workflow is much more fun to use than gimp's > GMIC plugin. > > The attached image may give you an idea of the GMIC module. If you want > to give it a try, see https://github.com/rabauke/darktable/tree/gmic > At the moment a limited number of GMIC filters is available via the UI, > more might come in the future. > > I am not sure, if one should integrate this module into main. After > playing with the GMIC filters, however, I think it would be great to > (re-)implement some of the GMIC filters for darktable. In particular, > the Richardson-Lucy deconvolution sharpening filter is something that I > desperately miss in vanilla darktable. > > What do you think? Any suggestions? Is the a GMIC filter that you wish > to able to use in darktable? > > > Heiko > > -- > -- Number Crunch Blog @ https://www.numbercrunch.de > -- Cluster Computing @ https://www.clustercomputing.de > -- Social Networking @ https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Heiko_Bauke > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] darktable for Windows
Fair enough. On 31 Aug 2017 7:32 am, "Bernhard" <darkta...@intervalsignals.org> wrote: > I also like this progress as I am forced to use windows in the workplace > and every some month I'd do a few edits - I like to use a tool I know about. > > BUT: I don't know if it's a wise move to shout out this now. > > As far as I understand Tobias this "only" is a preview, an alpha version > so to say, and he asks experienced users here and at pixls.us to test > this and give feedback. I doubt it is a good idea to attract _new_ users > now. > > -- > > regards > Bernhard > http://www.bilddateien.de > > Bruce Williams schrieb am 30.08.2017 um 23:07: > > This is awesome news! > Although I'm a Linux guy these days, I am the producer and co-host of a > photography podcast called Shutters Inc, and most of my listeners are on > Windoze. > I'll be giving this a shoutout on this week's podcast for sure! > Although I've been raving about dt ever since I found it 12 months ago, > I've only converted one listener (that I know of). This will probably see a > few more at least sample the product, and I would expect, a few of them > will stay. I know a lot of people are not happy about Adobe's continual > price gouging for a CC subscription. :) > > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > -- > Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 > > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > sinelanguagepodcast.com > audio2u.com > > e-mail <stu...@audio2u.com> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> > -- > > > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 2:27 AM, Tobias Ellinghaus <m...@houz.org> wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> as most of you probably noticed by now we have had quite some work done >> in the >> past months to port darktable to Windows. It's mostly due to Peter Budai >> that >> we are able to provide a first public preview of what we achieved so far. >> Find >> the disclaimer and a link to the installer on the pixls forum: >> >> https://discuss.pixls.us/t/darktable-for-windows/4966 >> >> Tobias > > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] darktable for Windows
This is awesome news! Although I'm a Linux guy these days, I am the producer and co-host of a photography podcast called Shutters Inc, and most of my listeners are on Windoze. I'll be giving this a shoutout on this week's podcast for sure! Although I've been raving about dt ever since I found it 12 months ago, I've only converted one listener (that I know of). This will probably see a few more at least sample the product, and I would expect, a few of them will stay. I know a lot of people are not happy about Adobe's continual price gouging for a CC subscription. :) Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com audio2u.com e-mail <stu...@audio2u.com> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> -- On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 2:27 AM, Tobias Ellinghaus <m...@houz.org> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > as most of you probably noticed by now we have had quite some work done in > the > past months to port darktable to Windows. It's mostly due to Peter Budai > that > we are able to provide a first public preview of what we achieved so far. > Find > the disclaimer and a link to the installer on the pixls forum: > > https://discuss.pixls.us/t/darktable-for-windows/4966 > > Tobias ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-dev] Sony A850 and A200 raws cause darktable hang
I'm running Linux Mint, and shoot with an a850. Not having any issues here. I realise that doesn't help you much, but just wanted to stress that I don't think it's a dt issue. Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com audio2u.com e-mail <stu...@audio2u.com> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> -- On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Roman Lebedev <lebedev...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Alexander Rabtchevich > <alexander.v.rabtchev...@gmx.net> wrote: > > Hello > Hi. > > > It seems some of the latest git commits broke support for Sony A850 and > A200 > > RAWs. A99 is threated without problems. > As far as i can see, for all three cameras, we still don't have CC0 sample > on https://raw.pixls.us/ And there is no "sony A99" sample at all, only > for A99V > > > > > -- > > Did not look at the reproduction yet, but it sounds strange. > There wasn't anything that would do it... > > > With respect, > > Alexander Rabtchevich > Roman. > > > > ___ > > darktable developer mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscribe@ > lists.darktable.org > > > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscribe@ > lists.darktable.org > > ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-dev] Split toning
Hi all, Full disclosure... complete Linux-noobie here. Been spending a ton of time with darktable over the last couple of weeks and am absolutely BLOWN AWAY!! Nice work, guys! Please forgive me if I've sent this to the wrong spot, or have ignored some etiquette that I should be aware of. Just wanted to make a feature request or maybe it's report a bug. We all understand how to read a histogram, right? Shadows are to the left, highlights are to the right. So, why is it that in the split toning module, the Balance slider works in the opposite direction? Highlights are to the left and shadows are to the right. This seems completely counter-intuitive to me. Am I missing something? K eep up the great work! Cheers, Bruce Williams -- Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com audio2u.com e-mail <stu...@audio2u.com> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> -- ___ darktable developer mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
